Sens Embarrassed at Home- Video Recap

SensChirp April 5, 2014 115
Sens Embarrassed at Home- Video Recap

  • Andrews theory

    Was at the game last night and here’s some things I noticed as did most watching;

    1) pp less than one minute in so Pmac sends Neil out, huh?
    2) it was evident Anderson didn’t have game after the second goal
    3) Spezza was either still hurt or completely deflated like the rest of the team after seeing Andy crap the bed
    4) Karlsson is clearly burnt out
    5) the don’t have a Lazar jersey but when they do, so will I.

    I think canning Mac is a knee jerk reaction and will only further discredit this organization

    Any chance Murray goes gunning for Callahan in the off season as the new captain in the event Spezza is moved at the draft,

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      I think if we bring in a captain to replace Spezza it’s insulting to some of the guys here.

      If we were going To do that should have been done before Spezza

    • Jacques

      You just trade Spezza and name TUrris captain! Callahan max 20 goal guy for 6,5 million really not worth it!

    • FistsofNeil25

      Callahan? Whoever signs him is screwed. He wants a long term big money deal and at his age and style of play, he may not have many good years left in him.

    • Andrews theory

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    • NickofTime

      Neil goes to the net, the fancy boys play around the perimeter.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Last night was probably the most embarrassing Sens game I’ve ever been to. The boys game out firing until Andy let in some weak goals that just deflated them all together. I know Maclean thought leaving Anderson in that game last night was the right call because of the back to back situation, but Andy quit on the team last night. He barely made an effort on a good number of those goals. Lehner would have at least battled and shown some fight.

    Maclean should have refused to send the players out to the face-off after the Neil non-goal. Weaver takes out Budaj and the stupid ref calls incidental contact by Smith and waives off the goal. A play like this should be reviewable so that the officials can at least make the right call in the end. What a goddamn joke that was man. Typical Montreal screw job. Every time we play them we have to beat the refs as well.

    And then there was Spezza. I know there was still some faint hope of making the playoffs, but he was clearly nowhere near ready to play last night. His groin/back were clearly bothering him all night and limiting his ability to move.Good on him for wanting to play, but he’s never going to heal up if he forces himself to play through the pain.

    The only positives from that game were Zibanejad looking like a star and Karlsson lowering the boom on Gallagher and body slamming Galchenyuk to the ice.

    Will the Sens find a new way to embarrass themselves tonight?

  • Don Ciccio

    Does no one else think that M. Weaver should be suspended for that dirty low bridge hip check to an unsuspecting player that doesn’t have the puck. I wouldn’t doubt if MacArthur woke up this morning not being able to walk.

    • Sensturion

      Should he have been penalized? Yes. Is it a suspendable play? That’s debatable. Sadly, I’d say no.

      • Don Ciccio

        Imo…..if you suspend guys for knee on knee then, I don’t see why this wouldn’t be the same. He hit a guy well away from the puck and hit him low at that…..imo that is reckless and he should be suspended…..Also, it bothered me that no one went after Weaver for a deliberate attempt to injure.

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    Does anyone know who 6th Sens is…he is so freaking random(I don’t know if I miss sarcasm in his twitter posts) but now he is saying that keeping Michalek at the deadline was a good thing……ummm who cares if he scores 50 goals from the deadline until now if he isn’t going to resign, or we don’t want to resign him he should have been moved.

    • Sensturion

      No one wanted him. And that was a month ago? Who cares anymore.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        Exactly

      • jimmyjohnson

        We will re-sign him for $4M per

  • Frank

    Watching that game last night I can honestly say I was embarrassed to be a Sens fan. The team showed no pride whatsoever. They give up a 3-goal lead and then get a bogus no-goal call against them? Any team with pride and heart would have been PISSED OFF and it would have shown in their play. Let’s face the facts here. This team is beyond SOFT! Both mentally and physically, they are weak. This lineup needs a major influx of toughness and leadership and until that happens, you’ll see the same results. I like guys like Turris, Hemsky, Spezza, etc but they’re all dipsy-doodlers. Time for a change in philosolphy

    • spoons

      I think Turris is great, Hemsky is a good skill winger, and we saw some great stuff from Smith and Zibanejad last night. Wouldn’t say were that soft but I’d like to see a change in leadership

    • Jacques

      TUrris plays hard and works to get the puck back. I would take12 forwards like that??????

      • Frank

        Ummm, I said I like Turris. You just can’t have 12 skilled forwards. You need some guys who are hard to play against, especially in your top 6. This team has none

  • H POTTER

    Typical sens version 2013-2014 last night! Whenever the players come out and are ready to play, the goalie is on another time zone! Totally weak, team gets frustrated and unwillingly gives up (I’m a player I know the feeling). Other nights when the goalie is ready and solid and faces 40-50+ shots, the defensive play of the entire team sucks ass. Can’t backcheck properly, too many turnovers and expect the goalie to bail them out the whole night. And there’s those nights when I think it is the most frustrating of all..when both the players and the goalie come to play and MacLean is on his full coaching mode and benches our top players because of small mistakes because for once the goalie is in the zone, the players ate in the zone and confident and get too comfortable and MacLean’s answer to that is to roll his Neil Smith line who simply do what the coach tells them to do and add no style to their game. Leadership and coaching are the two plague this year. Anyone had Sens finishing in the top of the Eastern standing…the team in paper is sick.

  • Anthony Pugliese

    Anyone who says the coach should be fired is just plain stupid, this team had one fault all season the D just plain sucked and when they didn’t the goalies let in crap goals… Murray needs to man up and say listen I thought our D was good but unfortunately it was a step back and they weren’t as good as expected, we have fired way too many coaches in the past few years, it’s time to make the problem the players and the gm it can’t ALWAYS be the coach!

    • Anthony Pugliese

      The other major problem is the owner but sadly can’t fire him haha

      • aegiszx

        Imagine the possibilities… Hahaha….

        • Anthony Pugliese

          Any chance Alfie comes back and becomes the new owner? Haha

          • Colin

            Team would be in worse shape. How deep do you think Alfie’s pockets are?

          • Anthony Pugliese

            That was a joke Colin…. But since you asked I’m sure he has couple millions in his account ready to go!

          • Colin

            :-) Sorry Anthony.

          • Anthony Pugliese

            That’s ok :)… Maybe Alex Rodriguez could be the owner he seems to have some free time and lots of money !

    • sell the team Eugene

      16 teams with higher payrolls than Ottawa’s will be in the playoffs this year

      • Colin

        15 teams. Colorado’s payroll is lower.

        • sell the team Eugene

          WRONG – CA total payroll to operate the team is higher than Ottawa’s

      • sens23

        might want to check again because colorado paid 3.5 million less towards the cap than the sens did

        • sell the team Eugene

          You might want to learn the definition of TEAM payroll which includes a lot more than player salaries

  • Pugnacious Serf

    This team really misses Alfie’s leadership on and off the ice. Going from a captain whom was barely drafted and has had to work his ass off year round, to Spezza whom has always been the golden boy ands it has always come easy. It rubs off on players, Turris and Karlsson have really stepped up their game watching Alfie be a pro. Now the guy wearing the C doesn’t work as hard, isn’t as focused or dedicated to the coaches message, how do the younger, less professionally groomed players absorb that? You don’t have to be a vocal captain, a grinder and hard hitter, but you do need to be a hard worker and need to care. Spezza has the C till the end of the season then he’s a dead man walking. Coach killer in Ottawa no more. Phoenix and Anaheim have been good trade partners in the past and at the draft I could see us getting a left handed defenseman to replace trusty old #4( who we’re paying a two year contract in order to make up for the bad publicity of low-balling Alfie ). Give the C to the kid that just busted his balls to get back from injury and still managed to get through a shitty divorce at 23 and play 30 minutes a game, and awarded a Masterson nom. That’s focus and discipline. And we as a city need a divorce from Melnyk unless he is going to commit to giving his GM the tools he needs to make this team a playoff team( $=tools)… Zack Smith looked great last night, glad to see that somebody on the home team had a little pride.

    • Jimmy!

      Yes – I 100% f-ing agree!

      And it gets our 1st rounder back from the Ducks!

    • Jacques

      Man. well said!

    • SuperSENS

      I love how it’s Spezza’s fault that the other players on the team haven’t played as well as they did last season. What a completely asinine conclusion.

      • Jacques

        His loose play hasn’t helped this team, by the way his sorry ass wasn’t there last year and our young guns did fine without chuckles!

        • SuperSENS

          Again, you’re confusing correlation with causation, on top of oversimplifying the situation. Try again.

  • Sensturion

    The day Spezza leaves/is traded is the day the team hit rock bottom. I’ve said this countless times already, but no one seems to care.

    There is no way the return for Spezza will be good. Spezza has a NTC, as such he’ll refuse to go to a crappy team. We can thus rule out a high 1st round draft pick this year or next.

    Poor teams have nothing worth giving up, while good teams will not get rid of good players in exchange for Spezza. Once again, we lose because we end up with the players teams don’t want.

    If Spezza is traded, Hemsky will not sign here and it won’t be worth resigning Michalek, no matter how cheaply he comes. The team will have lost 2 captains in two years and do we honestly think players will want any part of that? Not to mention the whole Melnyk garbage and I for one believe Ottawa is at the bottom of many players’ lists on potential destinations in the off season.

    Everyone is saying how the Bingo players are amazing and that many of them should be playing in the NHL instead of players like Greening, Smith, Neil and Condra. While I’m no fan or Condra or Greening, they are better than the grinders we could be calling up. Grant provides absolutely no offense at the NHL level while the same can almost be said about Hoffman. The kid can’t finish if his life depended on it; he’s like Matt Lombardi was a while back: he’s almost too fast for the game and has a hard time with puck management.

    Pageau appears to be a flash in the pan. Yes he had a great playoff run last year, but it would appear that he’s all but useless against bigger, badder teams.

    So where does that leave us? Spezza, Michalek and Hemsky are gone. Our lines then:

    Macarthur – Turris – Ryan
    ________ – Zibby – Stone?
    Greening – Smith – Neil
    Condra – _______ – _______

    Sure we can possibly insert Lazar, Puemple, Prince, Pageau, etc into the lineup somewhere but… where? We also don’t know how most of them will do at the NHL level. Based on what I see there, we have little to know scoring.

    What about free agents? According to CapGeek, here are the “top” FAs this coming off season:
    - Heatley (Hahahahahahaha yeah. No.)
    - Gaborik (Injury prone and kind of a baby. No thanks.)
    - Vanek (Will probably resign in Montreal)
    - Stastny (Will resign in Colorado I would assume)

    So… we can pretty much guarantee that 2014-2015 is going to be even worse than this year. And I haven’t even begun to discuss the defensive corps :/

    • Jacques

      You don’t understand hockey man, this team is rock bottom because of the way this guy plays! The common denominator in with all these coaches we’ve fired is the uncoachablity of this player! like Ovechkin he’s a Coach killer!

      • Sensturion

        So basically, what you’re saying, is that there is a coach out there, somewhere, capable of getting Hoffman or Smith or Greening to score 50 goals each in a season?

        • Jacques

          How many point a game players do the The Louis Blues have. Spezza apart from the year Karlsson put him back on the map has been a bust for a few years now so give us a break. Never shows up when the chips are down! Let’s keep playing this suicide game of him turning over pucks for the next few years.Team will the cut the cord this summer, just as I have been saying! Then the nice long list of good young players we have can progress without the dark cloud of MR ME ME ME hanging over it! Maybe TUrris will get more offensive zone face offs, like a number one center usually gets! Washington will do the same with its coach killer Ovechkin, that guy only gets points on the Powerplay!!!

          • SuperSENS

            If you truly believe Spezza is the root of all problems and the reason all of those coaches were fired, then I don’t even know what to say to you.

            *eye roll*

          • Jacques

            So what has been the problem. Smart guy! Jacques Martin way back when thought his game was lousy! Points are all nice and dandy, but what have we won with this guy! Martin, Paddock,Hartsburg,Clouston, etc etc now MacLean! The truth will come out when he’s gone (Spezza). TUrris would be your point a game player if he got more than the last 30 seconds of the Powerplay! Change is coming HAPPY about it!

          • SuperSENS

            Again, you’re laying the blame with one person, with zero facts to back up your statements whatsoever, except your wild assumptions. You seem to be confusing correlation with causation. Try again.

            P.S. By your own logic, Phillips is also the root of all problems, since he’s been here through all of those coaches too. :P

            *eye roll*

          • Jacques

            All I know is that when Spezza is on the ice our save percentage is .895 and when TUrris is out there it’s .935 big f-ing difference! Back check a little!

          • Colin

            Cool stat. Where can I find that?

          • SuperSENS

            Pavel Datsyuk’s on ice save percentage this season is 0.893, and he’s considered one of the best two-way players in the league. Try again.

          • Colin

            Where are they now? If Paddock, Hartsburg and Clouston had all gone on to illustrious NHL coaching careers, I would agree that you have a point. However, your ass is sucking air again.

        • sprucesens

          i’ve seen nothing but good things from hoffman. His speed and puck control are far above average. I’d sooner keep him on the team in condra or greening’s spot. Perfect guy to have on the 3rd line with zib

      • SuperSENS

        “You don’t understand hockey”

        Were you going for irony?

    • Sandy

      I know a lot of you don’t like him… but Pierre McGuire has said it would be a big mistake to trade Spezza.. It would leave a big hole in the lineup.
      This team is 10th overall in goals for this season.. that’s not the problem.
      The problem is behind the blue line. And if Murray (and Melnyk’s $$$) doesn’t fix it.. then we will still be on here gripping next year.. and will be in the running for Connor McDavid.
      They were harped on all year how to play in the D zone.. and they just don’t or won’t get it. They panic when things go bad instead of staying with the game plan.
      That’s it in a nut shell… And also, goaltending took a big step back this season.

      • Colin

        Don’t forget the nightly parade to the penalty box. They have got to take fewer penalties to maintain flow and keep the better players on the ice.

  • Colin

    You know, either most folk here have short memories or they are too young to remember when almost all Sens fans were calling for Alfie to be traded.
    Can’t win with a Euro captain. No heart. Bad leader.

    The best thing that ever happened to Alfie was the inability of the Leafs to get into the playoffs from 2005 until last year. Alfie’s Senators lost to inferior Leafs teams 4 out of 5 years. Had the Leafs continued to make the playoffs and beat the Sens, Alfie would have been traded years ago.

    Now, I am not slagging Alfie during those years as I was always one of biggest supporters. However, he sure as hell had more than a single season to prove that he was able to be captain.

    Jason Spezza is the captain of a Sens team that isn’t even half as good as the teams that Alfie had. It may be too late in the eyes of the “fans”, but I say he deserves a chance to prove his worth.

    • Sandy

      Spezza haters will turn it any way they can.. to justify him being traded..

  • Jimmy!

    Jimmy was/ is so unhappy he almost gave the business to a habs fan last night in a Toronto watering hole.

    Not proud of the Sens today.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Reading through all the comments and I get the notion that we are all very dissapointed and frustrated with this season and my opinion is that losing Alfie was the common denominator for all these mental breakdowns and what not. However, there is no need to blow everything up. We had a bad season but it could have been worse. No team is perfect and every NHL team goes through rough times. We have a young core group and only our SENS could learn from the numerous mistakes we made this season and so can the coach. I remember at the start of the season when I said to myself “this team is gona need time to gel ” well it turns out its true. We have so much talent and It wont go to waste. Bring on 2014-2015 GO SENS GO

    • Harv

      I agree that this year has not been all bad. Frustrating, yes and disappointing, yes. But, there have also been a group of guys who are proving the Sens have a bright future. And, a group of guys have proven it is not, and may never be, their time. All part of the growing process.

      I just hope they keep the right guys.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    All these get rid of Spezza, fire the coach, eff cowen, blah blah blah, lets be real ladies and gents, we arent going to get everything we want . so stay patient. I dont know about you guys but i love our team minus (greening, condra).

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      So saying you dislike two players doesn’t make your dislike any more legit than someone disliking Spezza.

      Greening and Condra are useless pieces to move, unless they are toss ins.

      I want Chirp to release his Spezza swan song post!

      • Moudy Mahfouz

        I am just stating in general, you hear so many get rid of this guy or the coach but in reality everything we want wont happen and much of this team will be the same come next year so move on from it and keep cheering them on

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Fair enough…although after this season I would be absolutely floored if there weren’t some serious changes made in the off season.

          • Moudy Mahfouz

            I think there will be changes coming but nothing like blowing up the team. I am a Spezza fan and it would kill for me to let him go but at the end of day, we need a shake up. I say assistant coachs will be fired thats my prediction

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            I wouldn’t be surprised to see that happen(although I feel it will be yet another scapegoat)….I have a serious feeling that Spezza is gone.

            Only thing that is putting a hiccup into my logic is the fact that he was given the captaincy…although I was told that that created a fairly large divide in the locker-room. SO who knows, maybe if they cut their ties players will want to start coming back and playing again.

            Was also told that he was and continues to be more interested in personal training aspects then anything team related.(not entirely sure how much I believe this guy was a total BSer in high school…but I know he does do some level of Physio with the team so he may know something)

          • Moudy Mahfouz

            See as the last month has gone by, I have a shitty feeling that he will be traded as well I think next season we should run with the young guns (Lehner). it is time to give him the duties and see what hes got to offer as a starting goal. Give confidence to the kid

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Agree on that point 100% I think the crease should have been his this year.

            I wouldn’t be shocked to see any(or all of)

            Spezza
            Anderson
            Neil
            Philips

            all gone next season. I put them in the order I think of likelihood. Kinda torn on having Neil above Philips, as I think he still plays a decent role on this team…if our damn coach would ever use him properly(as a 4th line player)

          • Moudy Mahfouz

            Anderson has pissed me off this year. He isnt Anderson from last. His pre post-game interviews are brutal and its like he doesnt wanna be here. Compared to a guy like Ryan who actually seem like he loves it here.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            I have said it a million times….Anderson should have been the one moved last season, that was literally a career year.

          • Moudy Mahfouz

            Going to be interesting this summer and I am actually pretty excited for it. Guess this summer will basically determine the future of this team.

          • Harv

            A lot of us thought trading Bishop was a bad move and now that we can see what he has accomplished we were right. Would he have been as good with Ottawa? Not sure, but Bishop and Lehner would be looking good right now as a future tandem. Remember when he came to the Sens, Bishop was the top goalie in the AHL.

          • Sensnation

            Agree with Tcharger, a lot of us also thought Anderson should have been traded. I don’t fault the team for keeping the vet and the future franchise player, but really needed a better return than Conacher. Even a 2nd rounder would’ve been better at the time.

          • Sandy

            I think having different voices in asst coaches should help.. Experienced voices…

    • Harv

      I support the Sens no matter what. But, I have opinions. I would buy keeping Spezza but not as the captain. That has proven to be a mistake. Given that, there are clearly some guys who do not fit the system and, if McLean is trying to point fingers at them by playing them, I guess we all know who they are, and Cowen fits.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    and the trend I have seen going on being a sens fan these last few years has been when the boys are doing well all the fans are praising our players and thinking we are a cup contender blah blah blah but when we shit the bed like this season, there is so much negativity it frustrated me so much . Give the team a break, we are allowed to have a bad season (not that bad considering we arent Buffalo).

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    and that is my daily rant for the day. Hoping for a better game tonight.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Quick poll to change the topic on a post-game day hangover. (I actually feel hungover when the sens lose the day before). Who has been your fav Senator the past 10 years. Mine goes Hossa and second Spezza.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Three way tie I think

      Hossa, Karlsson, Ryan(He was my favorite non sen player prior to the trade)

      • Moudy Mahfouz

        Ryan has always been a fav NHL player of mine

    • FistsofNeil25

      Alfie, Karlsson, Fisher

    • Harv

      Karlson

      And, I hope, for the next ten years.

    • sprucesens

      fisher, karlsson, ryan, same as tcharger, was my fav non sen player

    • Sandy

      Hossa.. I f’in hate Muckler.

  • Andrews theory

    Should we or shouldn’t we trade Spezza?

    Here is the real question, is he the type of player the Senators would draft today based on the premise of drafting by character?

    With that said, the caliber of players dropped off dramatically after Kovalchuck and Spezza so that complicates the question

    • Jacques

      Well Sens had the choice of drafting Anthony Mantha or Curtis Lazar in the past draft and they picked the talented two way guy over the super talented one way dimensional scorer. That should tell you something.

      • Sensturion

        Mantha is known to have attitude problems. He’s a me first kind of kid. Spezza isn’t that way at all. Unless the other players are lying through their teeth, Spezza is one of the most liked guys in the league.

        • Jacques

          You can be liked and still have that attitude! Mantha seems to be liked by his junior teammates.

          • Sensturion

            I teach teenagers. Most of them have the me first attitude and they brush it off. You have that attitude around an adult and you’re disliked. Mantha will have issues in Detroit under Babcock.

          • aegiszx

            Exacly man… Mantha has to make it to Detroit first.

            He’s going to be in the minors for a longggg time. Which is probably one of the reasons why Detroit doesnt care too much about the first/second rounds, knowing that when they DO call up players, most of the guys they call up have already matured.

          • Jacques

            We’ll see. Giggles is still a me me guy IMO!

          • SuperSENS

            Your opinion carries no weight, as it lacks any factual basis to support it.

          • thepez

            Not sure where you get your facts, seems to me your very biased opinion. EVERY player who has ever played with Spezza, who has been asked, has said that he is a great teammate and even when Alfie was captain, he was the leader in the room.

            You can criticize him for his play on the ice but unless you are in the room as we all are not on here, then we have to go by what his teammates have said about him.

      • Sensnation

        Not even close to the same comparison.

        • Jacques

          An example dumbass of what our team is looking for, you only have to go back one draft to see that this organization is looking for a complete player!

          • Zelle

            Why are you two always insulting each other? Be cool. lol

          • SuperSENS

            It’s only one person making insults this time.

          • Zelle

            Good point!

          • SuperSENS

            Yeah :)

            It’s interesting how they changed their name now too.

          • SuperSENS

            Actually, changed his name twice now — I don’t think he realizes that sockpuppetry only further diminishes anyone’s ability to take him seriously.

      • Andrews theory

        Zibanejad was drafted for the same reason

    • Sensnation

      Spezza’s here for at least the near future, don’t see him going anywhere, don’t want him going anywhere. This team is young enough as it is, the problems they have are not solved by more youth.

      • SuperSENS

        I’d be shocked if he was going anywhere anytime soon.

      • Andrews theory

        I believe if they move Spezza they will bring in some veteran leadership either as C or to help

  • Roar…

    I think the answer to whether or not the Sens should move Spezza has always been dependent upon the return. The reality is, at over 30 we know exactly what we have in Jason Spezza.

    The Good:
    He is terrifyingly good at offense after he passes the red line. He produces points and regularly makes teammates better. He is especially good on face-offs and on the power-play.

    The Bad:
    In the role of a #1 center, he is pretty mediocre defensively. We have already seen his best and it came when he was young and healthy. He’s now older and prone to chronic back issues. He can still be absolutely great some nights, but you will not get that level of play for 82 games.

    So with Jason Spezza what are Ottawa’s realistic options?

    1. We find him two wingers than can produce points by taking advantage of Spezza’s unique skill set, play very well defensively, drive possession, and essentially flank his deficiencies to allow the team to get the best out of their most skilled forward.

    2. We trade him, if the return is right. The ideal return is a top six left winger who can play 200 feet and put up 50+ points and a defender who can step into the top four in the same way Marc Methot has. They can be age 24-29. I’m not sure what team has these players, but that’s what Ottawa has to go after to balance the depth of the team. Any deal should be a hockey trade rather than a deal for futures.

    What has Ottawa done so far?

    This year the evidence is:
    1. Traded for Ryan allegedly to play with Spezza and then didn’t even let the paint dry on the trade before they gave up on pairing them together.

    2. Traded for Hemsky who brings a great 200 foot game to help Spezza (and it’s worked wonders for both of them I might add)

    3. Gave Spezza the captaincy, an odd thing to do if you don’t like his work ethic and don’t think he should be in the fold long-term.

    The consequences:
    You won’t just be losing Jason Spezza. You’ll likely lose Hemsky & maybe even Ryan as well. I think we have a better chance to retain Ryan as he’s a great fit with Turris & MacArthur but Hemsky is likely gone for sure if we don’t keep Spezza. Honestly, Spezza is his main reason for being interested in us. The chance to be a PPG player again and play with a highly skilled center who he himself calls “obviously the best center I’ve ever played with”

    Those are some pretty serious consequences. The trade has to be absolutely right or the team maybe loses more than it gains. If you can somehow trade Spezza for a great return and still keep Hemsky & Ryan in the fold then Murray looks like a genius. Honestly though, if we’re realistic, do we really think that’s a possible future? Can it really work out that well for us?

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Cough Kane and Bufuglian Cough

      • Roar…

        Evander “Assault charges” Kane? Pretty big risk bringing in that kind of personality. Love him as a player of course. Buff would be fantastic in Ottawa, his underlying numbers are good. Realistically though, does Winnipeg want to do that? I mean really… does Spezza help them?

        I think the best landing spot for Spezza is a deep talented team where they can insulate him. Colorado & St.Louis to me are the best examples. Teams that have a lot of talent but could benefit a huge amount from what Spezza does whilst protecting his weaknesses. It’s hard to argue Winnipeg could do that.

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Hard to argue with your points…Both those teams have pieces I would be interested in having as well…real question is are teams that are doing that well currently going to be willing to move those pieces

          • sprucesens

            yeah, i see LA as the best fit for spezza. would probably waive to go there, the kings would have room when the cap goes up, and toffoli would likely be the key piece coming back. Maybe toffoli, 1st and a D prospect?

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Toffoli
            Zykov
            Vey

            Would be decent pieces, not sure they’d go for it though. Although with Spezza they would arguably be the deepest at C in the league

      • Sensturion

        I can’t see Spezza waiving for Winnipeg.

  • Spartanblood

    Probably not.

  • jtf927

    that was an emotional roller coaster of a game. i watched as the sens stormed out 3-0. and then the wheels fell off. it’s been so hard to trust this team all season. the forwards score, but the goal tending is so fickle and delicate. the d-corp has been an absolute disaster save karlsson. i think we lost alot last year in alfie and silver surfer. we lost that hardworking style. whatever happens in the offseason, the priority should easily be to massively overhaul and upgrade the d-corp. we need two shutdown type dmen who know how to play and not turnover the puck. if spezza is traded, their is no point in holding on to hemsky and 9mm. if spezza stays, sign them. if not, we should turn our attention to signing ryan and mcarthur long term. those two along with turris are the future of our forward corp. we have young players like zbad, stone, and hoffman to fill out the ranks. we have to work on the defense. i think pmac and murray should stick, the problem is the ownership. melnyk has big mouth, and has alienated the city of Ottawa as well as the entire league. the guy is absolute poison and is not creating an atmosphere for success. whatever happens in the offseason, i hope to god it starts with the d-corp.

  • Zelle

    I’ll be honest and admit I checked out after the second period. It was just embarrassing and infuriating. I hate the Habs fans in Ottawa more than any other fan base and I just hoped that at the very least it would be a close game or no epic meltdowns like last time. But it was basically the same as last game, just earlier in the game and worse. I just know I’ll get a visit from this asshole at work Monday who was already bragging about winning the game before it happened. Can’t wait to see what this off season brings. For now I just hope they’ll win a few more games.

  • Sensturion

    You know… maybe Maclean actually is pulling a Costanza…

    • jtf927

      lol!

  • Sandy

    Not excusing the bad play this season.. but I think Sens fans have been spoiled with playoff appearances. If Murray doesn’t fix that defense.. then it will be more of the same next season..

    This is only the 3rd time since the 1996/97 season that the Sens have not made the playoffs. In that same time frame the Canucks & Habs missed 6 times; the Leafs & Oilers 9 times and the Flames 11 times..

    (Those stats come from the Ottawa Sun)..