Ceci Scores Overtime Winner- Highlights

SensChirp December 17, 2013 150
Ceci Scores Overtime Winner- Highlights

  • iKarly65

    What a beauty!

  • Tooks

    LEHNER gave us a chance to win that game! Ceci with another great game, kid has big balls!

    Our D looks so much better when we have the mobile guys in there (EK, PW, CC), yes its not perfect but they move the puck out and less time spent in our zone the better.

    PW46 Karlsson
    Phillips Ceci
    Cowen Corvo

    • SenaTHOR

      You CAN’T put EK and PW on the same line. They’d be minus a zillion.

      • MikeS

        You forgot methot?

        Karlsson/Methot
        Phillips/Ceci
        Cowen/Corvo

        • Tooks

          Shit I did, lol.

          Methot-Karlsson
          Phillips-Ceci
          Phillips/PW46/Cowen-Corvo

          • runningbear1974

            If Cowen could learn to play with Karlsson, that would be so awesome… That would free up Methot to solidify another line…

          • CUP 2014-15

            Hay Tooks your giving Phillips lots of icetime, lol you love him, I knew it.

  • Sharmarke

    What an entertaining game to watch. We saw how good St. Louis is and we saw how our team can compete with these teams if they just turn the intensity up. We have to be mean, dont just hit but hit hard, fight and thats what we saw last night.

  • MoeDozer

    Looks like all we needed was a better combo of motivated young guys that move their feet (JGP and ceci) and coach to stick with a line up including zib in top 6. Even spezz is showing life of his old self with that clapper off the cross bar. Lehner was great as usual.

    Best players play right?

  • FistsofNeil25

    Great game by the Sens last night. Whenever I see them play like that I wonder where that team has been all season long. So frustrating!

    It should be interesting to see what they do with Ceci now. He looked amazing in his debut against Buffalo but was then victimized by the Kings big time. Last night he had a quiet but solid performance until he put is all on our feet with his first career goal, a OT game winner none the less.

    I think he deserves to stick around a while longer to see if he is truly ready to play in the big leagues. Three games is just too small of a sample size to truly know for sure. If he is ready, what does management do on the blueline? Despite what some of you may think about Cowen, the organization most likely sees them in their long term plans along with Methot and Karlsson.

    That leaves Phillips, Corvo, Wiercioch, Gryba, and Boro all fighting for an opportunity to stick with the team going forward.

    • CUP 2014-15

      Great question and Ceci may have sealed Philly’s fait here in Ottawa. I just don’t know what direction this D will go. I have a hard time with 3 offensive minded Dmen. Maybe just me but don’t we need 4 defensemen that can play defense. That would mean EK and CC as our O D and MM, JC Boro and a free agent. I would expect Gryba to be waved any day. 25 yrs old and only 17 games of hockey this year is hurting his development.
      That was the team that I expected to see all year. Hard on the fore check, forwards getting back hard and giving it all. I could watch them lose heartbreakers playing like that and be happier then them wining an ugly one by fluke or a hot Goaltender. Love this team when they play aggressive balls out hockey. All that being said St. Louis was missing four very good players and still had the Sens pinned in our zone most of the second with a very good cycle game down low. Lets get on a roll and catch Alfie and company.

    • Tooks

      Well if that is the case then Gryba is an easy player to let go, especially with Boro in the wings.

      • CUP 2014-15

        WAVE HIM ALREADY, He is not in their plans and the kid will be picked up off wavers and can at least continue to make a living doing what he loves, that is the right thing to do and if nobody wants to give you a pick for him and your not going to use him, move his ass. I am sure he will be upset as the Bingo boys are his buds but life moves on. 17 game of hockey this year is killing this kid and then we expect him to be in game pace, not going to happen.

  • CrazyFish

    Maybe I am crazy but Phillips looks like a new man playing with Ceci, seems to have more jump and I thought had a solid game. There were a few mistakes but everyone else had them too.

    Spezza seemed to be back checking all night and in good position. That was a hell of a shot he had too bad it hit the crossbar.

    EK65 and The Lehner were on FIRE!

    The lines seemed to stay the same for basically the whole game, that was shocking.

    • xN1Cx

      Was easily the most exciting and enjoyable game to watch so far this year. Also agree with all your comments!

  • sprucesens

    To address your tweet chirp, I would bet they send Ceci back. If they thought he was playing well enough a while back, they would have brought him up to help out. Yes the injury made it much easier to do, but it was still a possibility. After they called up Hoffman and didn’t use him, called up grant and boro, and then sent them down after playing well, I certainly can’t see them doing anything different with Ceci. Much to all our chagrin.
    Personally I think he should be given a shot for the rest of the year, with a trade being made to free up some room for him. Same with Hoffman up front. But that means making a trade, and likely not getting much back. And they have only a couple days left to make that happen. He isn’t hurting our chances of making playoffs this year, and it would build great chemistry and be a great learning experience going forward, but it isn’t likely to happen. But lets hope it does

  • Hax

    ;)

  • Miguel

    Great game last night from the team we all knew we had to start the season!
    Big question now becomes, why is it that they can come up big against some of the best teams in the league, and the very next game throw out a dud?
    Another real big question and real test for PMac is the huge statement he makes seemingly every day
    “Best players Play” lets see if he stands by this now,
    ideally the lineup should not change, but if Methot comes in, then I say the one player that we do not really need in the lineup should sit out… and in my opinion that would be Phillips.

    • SenaTHOR

      I’d say PW46.

      • Miguel

        yes agreed PW did not have his best days, however moving forward, I believe PW is an appreciating asset whereas CP is a diminishing one.

      • Tooks

        Sens should try hard to package Gryba and Cowen, throw in Andy for Eberle and a 2nd.

        • Doc

          Did that work in NHL 14?

          • Tooks

            No, EDM laughed in my face.

          • Doc

            Good, glad the game is more reasonable then you.

        • runningbear1974

          I agree… I think we should focus on good skating D… If we can get a quality player like Eberle then absolutely…

        • CaMo

          Methot and Anderson for Eberle and you may be talkin’

  • Hax

    Okay folks: Reality check time. Yes Ceci played very well … for a teenager. He scored the OT winner and is probably brimming with confidence and the coaches could use that to build him up more. But I still think he should go back to Bingo ultimately. He was on the wrong side of the ice multiple times last night. He recovers okay when he finds himself there and actually bailed Phillips out once – but he still has a lot to learn.

    If Methot is healthy (and now that Cowen is starting to round into form and Wiercioch has stabilized) I’d send Ceci down with the message: “Great start kid, go down and get even better.”

    He’s likely on the team full time next season (though not guaranteed) but let’s not ruin him by asking him to save us now.

    • Miguel

      fair enough, but int the words of the great PMac
      Best players will play,
      and he is better than 2 or 3 of our current d-men right now, so not an easy decision.

      • MikeS

        I think Mac said last night that “they will ride the wave.” If he is playing well and contributing they will keep him up but If he starts to regress they will send him down.

        • sprucesens

          they will ride the wave until his 9 games are up, then he’ll be down unless he is single handedly winning us games.

      • Hax

        Agreed it’s not easy and not saying that keeping him up would be stupid or anything. But he still has lots to work on in his game even though he’s really good now. If we want him to be the best he can be I think that means some more time in Bingo at some point.

        Maybe keep him around for a bit (as Mike alludes to) until the bubble guys like Wiercioch and Gryba bring it up a notch due to the competition and then let Ceci go back down.

        I just don’t want to see some sort of “he’s an NHLer now” and then he struggles (which he’s bound to do at some point).

        • Doc

          And when he will struggle (not if but when) people will call for MacLean’s head just like they are doing with Cowen and company. Rinse repeat.

          • runningbear1974

            Maybe… But… The difference between Ceci and all those other guys… Ceci i a NHL quality skater… Those other guys aren’t and are asked to compete against better skaters…

          • Tooks

            Its not that he wont struggle but his game is moving the puck out, even IF he struggles defensively, our team moves the puck out faster and thats a struggle I will take anyday of the week.

            The struggle I dont want is a defensive Dman who is struggling defensively and cant get the puck out (Cowen, Phillips). Thats the difference.

          • Doc

            So in your world, all 6 D-men would be puckmovers?

          • Tooks

            Top 4 D should be mobile puck moving D, yes, the slow guys can go 3rd pairing.

          • Doc

            Lol… None of the elite teams have 4 puck moving D-men in their top 4, but you know better I’m sure.

          • CUP 2014-15

            No they don’t. They have 4 D that can play in the defensive zones and kill penalties. Bost, Chara, Boychuck, Hamilton and McQuaid. Chi, Hjalmarrson, Oduya, Brookbank and Seabrook. L.A, Muzzin, Mitchell, Regehr and Drew. Ana, Lovejoy, Beauchemen. Allen and Lindholm. ST.L Polak, Jackman, Shattenkirk and Leopold. S.J. Braun, Hannan. Stuart and Vlasic…and so on. PK is still Important.

      • runningbear1974

        I don’t know how many times PMac has said “best players play”,.. I can only recall once… Realistically, it’s more complicated than that…. Obviously…. Kassian would never play… I’m not sure we can count on him playing the “best players” to predict what he will do…

        • runningbear1974

          oh, i do love Ceci… I jumped out of my chair and cheered when we drafted him… And i cheered tons last night when he scored… I think for a guy like Ceci, half a year in AHL is just as good as a full year… Unless he can help AHL team win cup, so we get more winners in our system…

    • aegiszx

      Agreed.

      If we were to assess this critically, the fact is, against a Blues team with a Hitch’s current structure, he played well and read the plays or well most of them accurately… The Blues are fast, but they’re not LA Kings or Chicago Blackhawks fast. I think we keep him in the line-up for the next few games to play against some teams that slow down the pace of the game (Devils, Phoenix, Panthers)… and then see how he fares against the high-flying Penguins next week.

      • Tooks

        If you are going assess this, then assess it with the team’s preformance in mind. Have we not gotten much better the last few games at moving the puck out. Yes. We are spending less time in our zone running around like headless chickens. Yes vs LA he had it rough but I would think even the best D will have his troubles vs Kopitar and company. Cant say he is the only one that cant handle Kopitar, thats foolish mentality.

        • Doc

          We’ve had really good numbers compared to the beginning of the season for over 10 games now, it’s not because of the Ceci call-up.

          • Tooks

            Last 7 games without Ceci, 2W 5L, pretty much playing like crap in our own end.

            Last 3 games with Ceci 2W 1L. Play improved in our own end and breakouts exist again.

          • Doc

            Lol…so sad. Yes, all because Ceci wasn’t there!

            Thanks to Yost for the graph.

          • Tooks

            What do shots have to do with the record? Quality shots or perimeter shots. Funny so many people get hung up on this stuff.

          • Doc

            HAHAHA! Just shows how much you know. Thanks for proving my point. Love that you disregard anything you don’t understand. I suggest you do a bit of reading on the subject and then you’ll see why this matters. lol…

          • Tooks

            It doesnt prove anything, want to explain how TO gets outshot most nights and win…Thought so. Outshooting your opponent doesnt mean you’ll win.

          • Doc

            God you’re slow. You clearly don’t grasp how this works. The only people that disregards advance stats are the ones that don’t understand it. I rather use stats that explains our better overall play as of late, instead of thinking that a 19yo D is the catalyst for our recent success, even though he only played 3 games. You’re one of the most vocal posters on here, yet you seem to lack the basic understanding of how the game works. Keep looking at boxscores, kiddo, it suits your style.

          • Robert Lepage

            Easy there Doc, don’t need to go all Ragnar on Tooks. Stats isn’t for everyone, and people can get confused with correlative and causative effects when emotions (and pride), come in to play.

          • Doc

            Fair enough. Just can’t stand when people actually try and convince other people that they are right all while disregarding facts that disprove them. Tooks is a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

          • Doc

            This should be good… Anxiously waiting for his response…

          • CUP 2014-15

            I agree to a point Doc, stats don’t lie but don’t tell the whole story either. Otherwise Gryba would be playing. best + – of all D, Best Corsi of all D and a winning record for the team when he plays, so yes I am a stats guy as well but it goes beyond stats.

          • Doc

            But they do paint a bigger picture, and help us understand how a game went outside of the boxscore. Gryba doesn’t have the best Corsi though, and he has the second least TOI with sheltered minutes. Although I do get what you’re saying.

            We’ve had a great record with Kassian in the lineup, but we all know he’s not one of our best players. Using Tooks logic we should dress him up every game.

          • CUP 2014-15

            LOL, I don’t look at numbers of players who don’t play( Kass). As for the corsi, if he isn’t first then it changed in the last week. Hard to improve your numbers from the press box. Yes I do believe that stats are very important and so do coaches. That is why we will most likely see Anderson v Florida.

          • Doc

            Agreed. Most possession first teams used them (Chicago, MTL, Ottawa, LA, etc), and it has become one of the most useful tool used by coaches in every aspect of the game. Crazy how times have change.

            It’s actually quite fascinating when you get to know what these stats represent. Paints a really different picture!

          • CUP 2014-15

            Moneyball !!!!

          • Doc

            lol

          • Tooks

            Bingo.

          • Tooks

            You havent disproved anything, your relying on shots per 60 to judge a game. Or judge our overall play, in which we have lost 5 of 7 before Ceci came along. Ceci makes our team better, stats or no stats.

          • Doc

            I did, you just want to disregard it. Never mind that you can’t seem to grasp basic math, but our play has been on the rise for the last two weeks now. What made us lose the last few games has been bad goaltending and missed opportunities that we didn’t bury. If you think that advance stats are only about shots per 60 then there is no use in keeping this conversation going. Take a few minute and go look at the site I sent. Might do you good. Management on most elite teams use advance stats, you just choose to disregard them because you don’t understand what they represent. It’s scary how you are the exact example of Dunning-Kruger effect.

          • Tooks

            And your disregarding the fact that we went 2-5 in the last 10 without Ceci, oh wait but our Corsi says were improving before Ceci…LOL. You can keep looking at stats if it makes you feel better.

          • Doc

            Poor little fella… You make absolutely no sense, yet you clearly think you do. It’s sad… Kinda feel bad for making fun of a mentally challenged now. Sorry pumpkin, didn’t know it was a condition and not a behaviour. :(

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

          • Tooks

            Yep and you just keep looking at stats where the game isnt played. We have a losing record when out-attempting the opponent…lol but I guess a graph know’s more.

            Like Backes said “Stats are for Analysts”

          • Doc

            Yes, advance stats are just about shots…. *sigh* Again, go educate yourself a bit before looking like an idiot again. I sent you the link to a site where you could learn a few things.

          • Doc

            Oh, if you ever feel the need to educate yourself a bit, start here:

            http://www.extraskater.com

          • Aaron 2.0

            Woooahhh. Easy there. No need to start a war against statistics. Corsi is a great tool. It’s pretty much the only stat that has shown to correlate with wins over the long-term. Sure there will always be outliers (e.g. TOR in years past). But, these exceptions to the rule are few and far b/w. This graph is actually very encouraging. And, I agree with you, we’ve been a better team with Ceci in the line-up. The kid moves the puck so well. The question is whether we want to burn a year of his ELC this year. I personally don’t think so. But, I understand how some will disagree (based on his small sample of work in the NHL).

          • Robert Lepage

            What’s the x-axis? Minutes? Games? Periods?

          • Doc

            Games.

    • Jacques

      What are you smoking? He brings the missing dimension – he’s ready now and he gives us that other get the puck out of our zone up the ICE, option. We have to move ahead has an Organization. Condra should get the heave ho also – we have better options in Bingo! And I still think Grant is better than Smith. Lets play to f-ing win and not have guys playing just because we ALL LOVE THEM!

      • Doc

        Your ‘reasoning’ never cease to amaze me. I suggest you do more then look at the boxscore after a game. Just a thought.

    • Tooks

      Why would that ruin him? seems pretty NHL ready to me? Dont know why you think playing him in NHL top 4 would ruin him.

    • Doc

      Nevermind that he got chewed up by LA. Love the fact that people are so quick to disregard our other ‘projects’ yet are keen on the idea of keeping a 19yo after 3 games.

      • Aaron 2.0

        Sure, he had some defensive miscues against LA. But, in 3 games I don’t think he’s made any more errors than any other D on the team. And, while his early lapses may have lead to goals against the kings, the goals were incredibly weak. I think behind Karlsson he’s probably been our best D over the last 3 games. I don’t think he stays up for the rest of the season. But, really there’s no harm in keeping him for a few more games since his ELC doesn’t kick in for a while yet.

        • Doc

          I’m not saying that we shouldn’t keep him for a few games, but I love the double standards that some fans have in regards to our young D core.

      • Tooks

        I’m pretty sure Ceci aint the only one having trouble containing Kopitar, ask Keith & Seabrook, Pietrangelo & Shattenkirk, Yandle & Michalek, Bieksa & Edler, and whoever plays D for the NJ Devils, lol.

        Kid has played great in the overall scheme of things and adds that missing dimension we so desperatly need..

        • Doc

          Again, not saying he’s not playing good, just that people should have realistic expectations of his impact on the team. He’s not going to be here all year, and still needs to work on his game. He’s 19yo for crying out loud. Corvo has been playing great and nobody seems to anoint him as the next Karlsson.

          • runningbear1974

            Corvo has been playing really good for us… But, he’s no Ceci, never was…

          • Doc

            LOL. So right now, after 3 games with the big club, you’re saying that Ceci is a better player than Corvo?

          • runningbear1974

            I’m not exactly sure what i’m saying… I think Ceci will end up being a better player than Corvo at every stage of his career… At this moment Corvo is playing really good, and Ceci is a rookie, but, every game he plays he’ll get experience…

          • Doc

            PHEW! You scared me for a while. Ceci has the potential to be better, no doubt. But right now? Not even close. The reason we signed Corvo was for his puck-moving skills as well as his Veteran leadership. Wouldn’t be surprised if Corvo is actually helping the kid out.

          • runningbear1974

            I would prefer that Corvo help him our rather than Phillips…

          • Tooks

            Not that he is a better player, he’s a similar player in terms of puck moving. Our D is better with Ceci in it for exactly that reason.

        • runningbear1974

          The team took a step up when Zibanejad got called up… We improved tons… At the same time other guys started playing better… Better, not awesome… Michalek, Condra, Greening…
          We started playing better with Corvo playing, and now we’re playing even better with Ceci playing…

    • NickofTime

      I think they will too, it’s next season which will be interesting & whether they move Corvo & Phillips at this yr’s deadline or just don’t re-sign either for next season. C

      • Hax

        I think we’ve seen how painful it can be to lose leadership and veteran presence. I know most people seem to think Phillips is useless but I think for the next year or two we need to surround our solid young guys with a couple of key veterans. To me, that’s Methot and Phillips. Phillips as the 6/7 guy for sure though. Add in Karlsson and Cowen as rocks and then you have Ceci who may be ready next year battling with Wiercioch, Borowiecki and Gryba to see who rounds out the group. That’s of course if there aren’t any trades between now and camp. And yeah, Corvo is either traded at the deadline or yet another “in house rental” like we did with Kuba and Gonchar.

        If it were NHL13 I’d go with Cowen-Karlsson, Ceci-Wiercioch and Gryba-Borowiecki. LOL

        • NickofTime

          If Phillips is re-signed it will mean they will carry 7 defencemen in Ottawa with Ceci going back & forth between Ottawa & Bingo & be the 8th D. I wouldn’t re-sign Phillips but I can see the organization doing it because of the Alfie debacle & having Phillips as the legacy player, he’s been a good soldier.
          I hope they don’t sign any more defencemen though because they don’t need any, as I have said all yr they need a goal scoring forward.

    • The Apostle

      I believe the preferred term is young adult

  • MoeDozer

    Some out of town news:
    wikstrand 2012 7th rounder has 20points in 27games in div2 in Sweden and has decided he is ready for div1 and will be joining Frolunda as a 20year old dman

    • CUP 2014-15

      THX

    • Miguel

      hey Moe,
      where have you been with all the scouting reports :-) You do know we all look forward to them

      • MoeDozer

        I appreciate it! Been hiding from joining the way too often negative convos due to some of this teams performance.ill get back on the horse with updates

        • Doc

          I hear ya, been doing the same.

    • NickofTime

      It will be interesting to see how he does in Div 1 & whether he can still keep up the torrid pace he has set the last two seasons. Hopefully, for Ottawa he continues to get better.

    • Tooks

      Great news Moe, keep it coming!
      Exactly the type of D-men the Sens need to win in the NHL. Add him to the stockpile, great to have yet another mobile puck mover.

    • HarvardYaleAndPrincetonMan

      Thanks Moe
      Always like your concise and pithy updates.

  • NickofTime

    That was a great game to see live & feel the emotion in the building as the home town kid scores the game winning goal. Good for him. I guess they will keep him around for a while but as Chirp has said I also doubt they will keep 8 defencemen, Corvo hasn’t played badly & I don’t see them placing him on waivers & I doubt any team would trade for him at this late stage of his career. I hope that BM is working the phones trying to move a few guys out to make room. I would love to see BM try & make a deal for Fleischmann who is available, affordable & wouldn’t cost too much. I would also like to see BM callup Stone soon & bring back Grant. Lehner also played great tonight & deserves a lot of credit for keeping Ottawa in that game.

    • Hax

      Corvo is likely gone near the deadline when teams will try to add a veteran PMD. Which was the plan the day we signed him I’m sure.

      I would assume Murray is looking for good offers on Gryba and/or Wiercioch since both seem to be deep on the depth chart currently.

  • Millennium

    Anyone else pick up on Melnyk’s comments about Murray coming back for one more year, and wanting him to end up with a cup in his last year? If it were anyone but Melnyk, I’d think they were insinuating making a push next season.

    • Doc

      Better open up that wallet Uncle Euge!

      • esk

        HE WILL when the time is right. iunno why are ppl always complaining about budget stuff. Theres nobody out there worth spending money on. Let the guys develop. 3 year rebuild ends this year. EUGE has said he wants to win the cup..obviously he has a plan. Let him execute it.

        • Doc

          Rebuild ended last year, and the reason people ‘complain’ is because of what has transpired in the last year. He’s the one that has to prove otherwise, not the fans. We’ve got every right to be worried.

          • Tooks

            LOL if you thought the rebuild was done after year 3, your are smoking something firece. Its still ongoing and may last up to 5 years.

          • Doc

            Firece? He was alluding to the ’3 year rebuild’ Melnyk had planned with Murray, which technically ended last year (2011 was the first yaer). We made the playoffs the last two year, which is uncommon for rebuilding teams. This year they just shat the bed but are slowly on the up rise. Ending a rebuild does not mean you’re automatically an Elite team, so I’m not sure what most were expecting out of this.

          • Tooks

            They said 3 years to appease fans like you, but in reality nobody rebuilds in 3 years without top 3 picks each year. The rebuild is still on, probably in the range of a 5 year rebuild. Plenty of guys in Bingo the Sens are waiting to develop.

          • esk

            Technically this is year 3 of the rebuild. Remember murray signed a 3 year extension when it was announced. I understand the frustrations but lets just be patient. Euge has shown in the past that he isnt afraid to spend money. The budget and letting players develop is part of the rebuild plan…Read the new article..he wants to sign murray and make a push for the cup next year.

          • Doc

            Again, if he really means it, he’ll have to prove it. Cap is going up next year so he won’t have a choice but to spend. I just hope he’s willing to spend to build a contender. Right now, we’re not even close to matching any of the elite teams.

    • Hax

      I think/hope that’s what all this “budget” crap has been about since the start. When Murray traded away Fisher and Kelly it was the start of what was supposed to be a 4-5 year plan. With the last year of the rebuild coinciding with Spezza’s last year.

      I can see (though it’s through rose-colored glasses I guess) Melnyk allowing Murray to spend to the cap for next year to “make a run” – as long as most of the money comes off the cap in a year or two.

    • CrazyFish

      Next year might be a good year money wise, with the new national TV deal and resigning the regional deal which I am sure will go up since I would imagine TSN wants to get into the regional games and I believe TSN1200 contract is up this summer. Should be a nice increase to the revenues.

  • HarvardYaleAndPrincetonMan

    Saint Louis strikes me as a team that could take a serious Cup run this year
    if they make a couple of solid moves at the trading deadline.
    I don’t know their player pool that well though.

    Any thoughts on a mutually beneficial Ottawa / Saint Louis deal later this season ?

    • Hax

      I don’t think I’ve ever seen it spelled out as “Saint Louis” in my entire life.

  • Courageous23

    Great game by the Sens, but they need to string together a winning streak of more than one game, and they need to do it repeatedly. WIn one, lose one, is not going to be good enough!

    • Tooks

      True like beating mid pack opponents like NJ and bottom dwellers like FLA is an absolute must!

      • Sensnation

        Would you rather beat bottom dwellers or top teams? That was a great team win last night against one of the best teams in the league!

        • Tooks

          Both, but reality is we have to beat those mid level to low teams first before even trying to beat the top teams. Thats been our achilles heel, win a big game then lose to shit teams.

          • Sensnation

            Too early in season to worry about that. The games against opponents good and bad have improved overall from the start of the year. The consistency is creeping in, just not as fast as some fans want.

  • Hax

    So I guess my prediction of 4-3 Sens wasn’t that far off after all. The SensChirp curse prevails again as well!

    • SensChirp

      I don’t think I can afford to bet enough times to get his team into the playoffs on a blogger’s salary but I’ll do my best

  • Sensnation

    GO SENS GO!!! What a win!!!

    Hope you have all now seen this team just needed some time to get going and boy does it look good when they are all going on the same page!

    Ceci, Pageau and Zibanejad have all been playing great since being called up and I hope they can stay the rest of the year. Looking forward to a crazy 2nd half!!!

    GO SENS GO!!!

    • Alcatraz

      I think you copied and pasted this comment from last week’s weekly good game, to the one before that and so on
      I agree, but we need consistency now

      • Sensnation

        Consistency doesn’t show up overnight, it slowly gets better and improves game to game and that is what the sens have been doing for a couple weeks now. We have to stop expecting the best team in the league and start expecting the team we were supposed have year 3 of the rebuild, one fighting for a playoff spot with a really bright future going forward!

    • Courageous23

      Whoa! It’s nice to have something to be excited about, but keep in mind it is just one game… they need a lot more of those between now and April for it to be worth celebrating! Go Sens Go!

      • Sensnation

        We’ve had many good games of late. Man you fans are so tough on your team!

        • Courageous23

          Not at all. I give credit where credit is due. They are starting to show potential. If you think that I am being tough on them, you need some perspective. Good luck!

          • Sensnation

            Perspective is that the Sens have been improving their all around play of late, and last night was a good statement to that. I’m not on the moon over 1 game, I’m excited about the in season growth I’ve been mentioning on here for weeks now! This team needed time to figure out who they’re going to be this season, and as a fan I can’t be more excited by what I’ve been seeing lately with such a young and developing team.

          • Tooks

            We are 4-6 in the last 10 games, remove the 3 games where Ceci and Pageau played we are 2-5. Not much to be happy about. This team has yet to show any consistency night after night.

            We have just started to show some consistency with Ceci & Pageau in the line up, the past 3 games have been better than the first 30+ by a longshot.

  • MethotToMyMadness

    Great win, probably one of the best starts to a game I’ve seen in a long time, Sens were rolling. They came out flat in the 2nd and St Louis took it to them, but I think everyone expected that to happen, it is St Louis after all. The fact they kept themselves in it, is the best part. And to come back after going down 2-1, to tie and win in OT (big goal by Ceci) it was the icing on the cake.

    Now, will Ceci stay with the club? I think many are thinking he will, but honestly people he needs to go back down and dominate the A for the rest of the year, we can make due with whom we are using and let him continue his hockey education. I’d rather see him get the proper development because he does have a lot left to learn under coach Richardson.

    • Sensnation

      I don’t’ think Ceci REQUIRES a full year in the AHL. He sees the game pretty close to an NHL level, which has really helped him offensively and just positionally overall. Does he have more to learn, of course he’s 19, but the chemistry he’s shown with Phillips and the forwards should be a good start. I think he should only go back down if the rest of our D start outperforming him. At some point our best group of 20 needs to be the group playing on a nightly basis, no matter age, experience or draft position.

      • Tooks

        Exactly, if we want to start winning, Keep playing Ceci & Pageau and gives the reigns to Lehner.

        • SENSsmile

          I agree. The Sens need to go on a winning streak right now. If last night’s game was any indication, the team may have finally found the right chemistry to start playing their best hockey. Ceci and Pageau can continue their development at the NHL level, as long as they keep showing that they’re better than other players currently on the Sens roster.

  • hq8

    felt like the 2nd period yesterday sens didnt show too many signs of stagnation which has been typical this season after dominant first period displays (incl those 1st periods where they have come out tied). the breakaway was bad luck and a good break by STL – you make your breaks i guess and you have to make good on them. i think the 2nd goal was also a mix of badluck (Cowen falling) and assignment breakdown (MM9 not checking Stewart hard enough). but sens still dominated the 2nd both visually and statistically.
    that was a complete game by the sens i think start to finish and true to their form from last year where they are the type of team for which the sum of the effort results in the win not the individual period dominations. there will always be some breakdowns, players are human after all, but i think the true maclean message (outside of logic defying line combos) is to put your best effort for the maximum of 60 minutes or more and fight back from mistakes.
    i like the vigor with which the smith line started the game, i think it set the tone and was strategic in terms of not letting STL establish physical advantage early on – that is a key key component in STL’s arsenal and explains their coach double shifting their 4th line in the 2nd period. from that context, i think Smith’s penalties are excusable and ofcourse both were lousy calls.
    Blues obviously missed Sobotka though who is one of their better faceoff guys. Sens dominated the circle again – always a good sign.
    and where was the Pageau Pagueau Pageau chant!!!????

  • hq8

    if the wings lose today – it would go a long way to help the sens case – they have only 1 more win but 3 more OT/SO losses

    • Doc

      What scares me is that the 3 teams below us can pass us with just one point (due to tie breaker) with their next game. Hopefully we can string a few wins.

      • hq8

        a win streak is desperately needed. i think we are in a window right now which can close shut fast if any of the teams around us catch fire – just like we need to right now. each game we lose, we increase the chances of that window closing soon.
        they need to start closing teams. the florida game has to be a clean game where they dominate a lesser team. they also have to close NJD next game. and they need to make them both regulation wins.
        i like that Maclean is going with Lehner. shows that he is not deep into mind-games and may have finally run his patience with Andy.

        • Doc

          Hope you’re right!

  • Sensnation

    Don’t forget, the Sens have had one of the worst schedules to open the season! Things will only get better from here!!!

    • hq8

      brr…..here comes the schedule argument again……please. as much as last nights game was a super positive, the sens dont deserve to use the schedule as an excuse. not killing buffalo in buffalo stinks of not capitalizing on the schedule.

      • Sensnation

        Argument, no, statement yes. It’s a fact the schedule was brutal to start the year and will be better in the 2nd half. That’s it!

        So the schedule will be better as the team gets better chemistry. It’s a win win, simple as that. The top teams lose to bottom teams all the time, if you expect a full season of only losing to teams above you in the standings you are watching the wrong sport.

        • hq8

          you missed the point. even the statement that the sens can benefit from an ‘easier’ schedule may actually be wrong based on the sens record against teams like EDM, NYI, PHI (when PHI were shit at the start), three 1 goal games against Buffalo including an SO loss, losing to a handicapped TB team. losing to ANA and SJ in miserable fashion, when they were on back-to-backs on the road is also evidence of not jumping on the schedule.
          it doesnt matter if the team is above you or below you. the schedule will serve up opportunities all the time.
          sens havent capitalized on the schedule opportunities they have got to this point. nothing to say they will, except for the recent positive trends in play performance and the hope that they will continue it.

          • Sensnation

            Hq8 not sure what’s the discussion here. Sens are playing better and will have a better chance to take advantage of a positive schedule in the 2nd half. That’s all there is to it! What they did earlier in the season against those teams means little when talking about what they will do against those teams in the future.

    • Hax

      In terms of the fact that the schedule gets “easier” that is a valid point. But there have been plenty of games we should have won (on paper) that we didn’t where you can’t blame the schedule (not saying you are).

      But yes, in terms of the schedule alone, we’re in a situation where we can recover from a rough start better than some other teams might be.

      • Sensnation

        Agreed, and there are plenty of valid and invalid excuses on why this team was slow out of the gate. But things have and continue to improve and I’m looking forward to it all coming together. This board has been way too negative this early in the season, just trying to get people to look forward to the positives coming this team’s way!

    • Tooks

      Every team has had tough schedules, thats no excuse. The Rangers played like 15 straight road games…Leafs played 7 games in 10 nights. Like somebody said, the League has too much parity to say weak/tough teams can beat or be beaten any given night.

      • Sensnation

        I made a simple statement, didn’t say it was an excuse. Things will get continue to get better. Not rocket science here!

  • Phoenix

    Great game by the Sens last night. Keep it going. Just wondering what ever happened to the daily Chirp that was at the end of each blog. Really liked those.

    • Hax

      I believe her name is Rose.

      • SensChirp

        Norah Rose, actually :) And she’s currently sleeping which meant I had time to put together a new post. Still no Daily Chirp but that returns tomorrow!

        http://senschirp.ca/article/sens-blueline-crowded/

        • Hax

          Ah yes – sorry about that.

      • Tooks

        I think its only on gameday posts, not highlights posts.

  • SensChirp