Tuesday News and Notes

SensChirp May 6, 2014 164
Tuesday News and Notes

Just about 156 days until the Ottawa Senators play their next regular season game.

With Binghamton’s season ending prematurely and the Draft still a month and a half away, the long off season is officially upon us.  And while the NHL playoffs provide some entertainment, it’s going to be a long stretch of Sens-less days around these parts.  But as is so often the case in Senators land, there will still be no shortage of topics to keep the discussion going.  A good example- the World Championships which get started this week in Belarus.

Some notes on that tournament and a few other topics of interest to get you through the Tuesday afternoon.

-Canada’s run at the World Championships gets started this evening with a pre-tournament game against the Swiss national team. Great opportunity for Sens centre Kyle Turris as he’ll start on the team’s top line with Colorado Avalanche star Nathan MacKinnon on his left side and Alex Burrows to his right. MacKinnon was incredible during that first round series against Minnesota and will certainly be fun to watch skating alongside Turris. The first televised game is on Friday morning, when Canada takes on Stephane Da Costa and Team France.

-Originally there were supposed to be two Senators players involved in the World Championships but that has been cut to one after defenceman Marc Methot left the tournament due to back injury. Methot missed the first couple of Team Canada practices so it was clear there was an injury of some kind. The injury is not believed to be overly serious but Methot will return to Ottawa to be evaluated by the team doctors. Braydon Coburn will take his spot on the Team Canada roster.

-Speaking of injuries, still not a whole lot of information about the strange incident involving Mika Zibanejad late in the regular season. He was not included on Sweden’s roster for the World Championships but it’s not really clear if that has anything to do with the late season injury.  Both the team and player seemed to downplay the incident at the time and Zibanejad indicated he felt fine in the days after. People I spoke with did not seem overly concerned about the incident and all tests conducted seemed to come back positive.  Seems strange that he couldn’t crack this roster.

-The Jason Spezza rumours are going to be an ongoing story this summer but if the Senators do decide to deal Spezza, they’ll have a difficult choice to make on who will be the next Captain of the Ottawa Senators. Chris Phillips was the other lead candidate last time around but you would think at this point the team is looking for a little stability in the Captain’s role and Phillips is obviously in the twilight of his career. Erik Karlsson and Kyle Turris both seem like strong candidates.

-It’s going to be really interesting to see what kind of contract Robin Lehner gets this summer. With Craig Anderson entering the final year of his deal, it would appear we are getting close to the point where Lehner is asked to take the ball and run with it. Murray has mentioned on a couple of occasions that he likes to have two capable goaltenders on the roster but it’s hard to imagine the team signing Anderson to a new contract after this coming season. Lehner is an RFA and looks like a candidate for a short term, bridge contract. Something in the two years/2.5 mil a season range.

-For the gamers among us, the first preview for NHL 15 was released yesterday along with the candidates for the cover of the next game. Ottawa Senators defenceman Erik Karlsson is among 8 players vying for a spot on this year’s cover. He’s matched up against Bruins forward Patrice Bergeron. Click here to cast a vote for Mr. Karlsson, won’t you?

-Despite an impressive regular season, the Binghamton Senators’ year came to a disappointing end over the weekend as the BSens lost their first round series to the Wilkes-Barre Scranton Penguins. And while it wasn’t the kind of playoff run they were hoping for, there were still plenty of good stories that came out of Bingo this year. Tomorrow, we’ll have a guest post and season review from Joy Lindsay, who has covered the BSens this year. Keep an eye out for that post!

  • EHMatt

    Do you really think Lehner will command a $2.5 million salary? He hasn’t really done much at the NHL level. I would think he’d be closer to $1.8 or $2 million.

    • sprucesens

      no, but he’s also had decent save %. think last year, .932 I think? Had a decent one this year, despite horrible D all year, and a few horrible games in a row that probably hurt the average a ton.

    • whammer44

      Salary curve has changed…look what Cowen got for his “potential”.

  • Conor_smythe

    If Spezza gets traded, its:

    Kyle Turris or Bobby Ryan for Captain

    Karlsson is “allegedly” the quietest player in the dressing room.. he just sits there a pouts (probably wishing he was with his cougar… I mean, girlfriend)

    • WaitingSince92

      Alfie was quiet.

      As for MacA, Ryan and Karlsson to start.

    • FistsofNeil25

      I can’t imagine Karlsson being the quietest player in the dressing room. The guys loves to talk. Have you ever been to a Sens practice? Karlsson yaps away the entire time. Nothing about Karlsson is quiet.

      • Conor_smythe

        yapping on ice, and talking in the dressing room are diametrically different

        matt cooke yaps a heck of a lot

        • FistsofNeil25

          He just doesn’t strike me as a guy that just sits by his stall keeping to himself.

          • Jakester

            I agree, what crap, should stick to trading.

    • sprucesens

      hmm, sounds like you get your info from a troll. sits there pouting and is “allegedly” quiet. while I could see the quiet thing, from him or any other player for that matter, I highly doubt he is pouting.

      • Conor_smythe

        why is pouting so hard to believe? If I got scored against as many times as him, I’d probably be pouting too…

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Zzzz

          Now that Spezza is all but run out of town let’s get our newest scapegoat… And too boot one that literally every single team in the league would give an arm and a leg to have.

          Our fanbase is seriously unbelievable

          • Doc

            Was about to say…

          • WaitingSince92

            Wow, literally? That’s crazy – literally!

          • Conor_smythe

            http://www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_statistics.php?ds=25&s=22&f1=2013_s&f2=5v5&c=0+1+3+5+21+22+23+24+25+26+27+28#

            literally, on ice for the most goals against in the entire league

            thats a lot of pouting

          • Doc

            Nice trolling, but that proves nothing. So many other factors at play, but you probably know that already.

            Also first in points for defensemen, so I guess it counters your pouting argument. He must be the happiest D in the league.

          • runningbear1974

            That’s funny… So he’s pouting and smiling… I guess that explains the weird look on his face :) I think you can tell if you look closely… One eye is smiling and the other is pouting… That probably explains why he decided to grow a mustache… Mr Zorro…

          • Conor_smythe

            I dunno.. I think most DEFENCEmen would prefer to have less points, and actually make the playoffs, than to have more points but miss the playoffs

            I could be wrong

          • Doc

            Why does it have to be either/or?

            You’re not really trying. Not your best.

          • Conor_smythe

            I’m a little distracted.. killing it in the stock market today

            woot woot

            I actually love Karlsson, just dont think he’s captain material

          • Doc

            You trade?

            I used to trade a lot, but the crash of 08′ absolutely killed me. Lost a LOT. Still have some left but most of my investments are gone.

          • Conor_smythe

            I try.. I got lucky on some Marijuana companies earlier this year and now I’m just playing around with profits.. took back all my startup money, so if I lose anything it wasn’t really mine to start with

            myec
            wntr

            those are my serious ones.. maybe help you make some of your money back

          • SensChirp

            Ha. You never know what you’ll find in the comment section if you scroll down a little bit. Stock tips!

          • Conor_smythe

            stock tip number 1: if Melnyk is involved.. sell sell sell :P

          • Conor_smythe

            never invest without due diligence

            only invest what you can afford to lose

            :P

          • Conor_smythe

            and NEVER blame the guy who gave you the stock tip lmao

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            So hockey is an individual sport now… Neat, think it may get boring though

          • Jakester

            You are wrong and out to lunch!

          • Jakester

            He was actually only a negative player when he had to support the Spezza line, with everyone else on the team Karlsson was a plus! Get your facts straight, plus he’s was still only on one foot this year! Plus, Karlsson seems to talk to his teammates on the ice’ that’s where you lead your team!

          • Conor_smythe

            unbelievably amazing!!! I been voting for Hemsky goal for almost an hour!

            and I actually think that Oshie’s is nicer!

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Hahaha

          • laughing

            Can’t say I’m surprised though. Much different fanbase these days compared to the 90′s.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      There are really only four options I see

      Turris
      Karlsson
      MacArthur
      Ryan

      MacArthur and Ryan would both need extensions before even considering so I think comes down to Turris or Karlsson… There is no way if Spezza is moved we go with another short term captain

    • Dirk-Diggler

      Any info on this cougar?

      • Conor_smythe

        she’s a sweetheart.. but 5 years his senior

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Oh no… Not five years!

          • Conor_smythe

            still a cougar in my books

          • Doc

            That’s because you’re in your teens. 5 years is nothing.

          • Conor_smythe

            actually I’m 28 :P

          • Doc

            That’s even worse then lol.

            33 years old is a cougar for you? Man, you’re missing out, trust me. ;)

          • Conor_smythe

            ya man, thats a cougar for sure.. I’m not against them, I love older women.. but if me or my buddy is seeing a woman 5 years our senior, theres going to be some teasing.. just like a woman dating a guy 5 years younger is gonna hear it from her friends

            all in good fun

          • Doc

            I see. ‘Real’ cougars are something else though.

            Dating a woman 5 years your senior is usually the smarter thing to do. Good times.

            Doubt the woman will be hearing any complaints from her friends though. Probably gets a high five or two lol.

          • Zelle

            5 years is nothing once you’re 25+, I’m also 28 and I would easily date someone who is 33 or more. Over 40 then I’d agree I was dating a cougar, but not under 40.

          • Millennium

            5 years is nowhere near cougar territory

          • runningbear1974

            i thought a cougar is someone that pays for your drinks :)

          • Tooks

            28 is not a Cougar, I think its even prereq to be atleast 40+

        • Dirk-Diggler

          pic?

          • Conor_smythe

            google it, karlsson, girlfriend.. something will happen

          • s3nsfan

            yeah all the little girls that think they are or will be his girlfriend will come up lol

          • Dirk-Diggler

            wow…. if it’s that girl… wow…

          • s3nsfan

            Melinda Currey I believe is her name.

          • Tooks

            Well by her photos I cant tell which nationality he is? She looks exotic.

          • beepboop

            Yah that’s her. They’re both in Hawaii at the moment.

        • laughing

          If she’s a cougar at that age, I guess that makes me a silver fox, LOL!

        • CRSens

          LOL! Love how this ended up being a cougar & stock tips thread…Wish we were talking playoff hockey instead though :(

    • Hax

      I don’t see it being Ryan. I like him a lot and agree he seems happy here but handing him the C now seems off. Of course I’m not in the room so who knows?

      I’d support Turris I think. Love the way he plays, love how he comes off in interviews and love everything I hear from “insiders”. Karlsson would be good too IMO if he’d have the support of the team. He’s Swedish so “pouting” might actually be Alfie-like focus.

      Again, it all really boils down to who the players will follow – if the real truth was that the entire team would follow Condra as captain then that’s fine with me (though hard to imagine).

    • beepboop

      Karlsson is pretty introverted from what I hear.

      And his girlfriend is hardly a cougar, she’s 26 and quite successful in her own right.

  • SensChirp
    • s3nsfan

      we need to vote more for hemsky, his goal is much better than Oshie’s

      http://poy.tsn.ca/#/1-nhl2014/match/17-hemsky-vs-oshie

    • Conor_smythe

      have you thought about running for office???

      … your tweet just helped close a 70% gap in about 16 minutes

      • s3nsfan

        I’ve been voting watched it go from 30% to 44 % in 10 mins

      • xN1Cx

        Was just going to say this – he’s really catching up!

      • SensChirp

        I mean , I guess Hemsky deserves some of the credit…

        • s3nsfan

          Hemsky? WTH, all he did was deke the hell out of three tampa players and score a wicked goal, what’s that in comparison to what you’ve done here today lol.

        • sprucesens

          damn near even at 50% now. yay!

          • sprucesens

            FTW

        • s3nsfan

          voting slowed down oshie back up over 50%

          • SensChirp

            And now Hemsky back over 50. Going to be a close one. We need some of those automated script things running. Couple people have tweeted me about it but I really don’t know how they work.

          • Conor_smythe

            just send out another tweet about an hour before the voting closes.. I’m sure he’ll win.. Sens army just too strong

    • WaitingSince92

      Looking at the bracket, seeing lots of Sens!

      Sad that’s the most exciting sens-related thing right now

    • runningbear1974

      wow, close battle…

  • Zelle

    “Just about 156 days until the Ottawa Senators play their next regular season game.” I got instantly depressed after this line.

    • s3nsfan

      I feel like my 7 year old, that’s a really long time. lol

    • Sandy

      I would sooner you do the running days until training camp starts.. at least that might be a little sooner..
      Next up draft day.. and as most speculate the end for Spezza in Ottawa.. Sandy is sad… Then next up after that is a great time of the off-season… Development Camp..

      • Tooks

        Ya Dev camp should be a dandy, although I am starting to think we’re not as good as people here try to make it look. I mean, everyone was like “Oh man with all the guys going back down to Bingo we’re gonna have a killer team”. Then they get handled by Wilkes Barre and cant even get out of the 1st round…

        • Michenator

          WBS are half NHL vets and we didn’t have great goaltending…

          • Jakester

            Hammond is nothing to write home about!

  • boom

    Off topic – Peter Laviolette hired in Nashville…

    • Tooks

      Thats a good move, Laviolette will get alot from the young guys, fresh perspective for both sides. He was also runner up for the Jack Adams when he won the Cup with the hurricanes, go figure, lol, shows how much that award is relevant, he then brough the Flyers to the Cup and lost. I Just want our Jack Adams winner to bring us to the big dance one of these days, looks unlikely but hey, one can dream..

  • Dirk-Diggler

    http://senators.nhl.com/v2/ext/PDFs/2013-14%20Season%20in%20Review.pdf

    Attendance down 1300 a game since the season before!

    • Tooks

      Well can you blame them, the product on the ice has alot to do with the people not showing up.

      • Sandy

        That and the fallout from Alfie leaving…

      • Brutus5247

        Add Wiercioch ouch! Add Kassian ouch! Add Karlsson’s defensive play, ouch, add Spezza’s defensive play ouch. Get your head out of your anal sphincter…OUCH.

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          How did he not show up… He wasn’t allowed to play

    • Misaow

      Also last year, only 23 games, first 10 were 1/2 price, last 6 were heavily discounted and the Sens had a good home record.

  • A-Train

    Boy…remember that clip of Phillips when he didn’t get the C last year? Now imagine he gets passed over for Karlsson or Turris?

    • Tooks

      Yeah exactly, no doubt they go with Phillips. We are already a mess, even moreso now that they might get rid of Spezza 1 year after making him Captain…

      I like Turris, Karlsson, CMac and Bobby but 3 of them are not even from this Org and have only played a few seasons with the club.

      I dont see any of them as leaders, like I see Landeskog being a leader, Toews being a leader, Jamie Benn, Getzlaf…I agree not every team has those young leaders so they just go with the best player, a la Ovie, Stall, Stamkos or with vets like Ference in EDM, Zetterberg in Det, Chara in Bos.

      • A-Train

        The whole situation does sort of highlight the Senators tweener situation right now: Not really a club that has totally rebuilt, but also not one with a whole lot of continuity outside of two vets (assuming Spezza is gone).

      • Jakester

        Yes, there is a doubt! I don’t see the Sens naming Phillips!

      • Jakester

        Ok Tookie none of The SENS players can LEAD! You r full of shit! Landeskog was named as Captain out of Junior, never led the Kitchener Rangers anywhere! So give us a break!

    • Miguel

      Phillips does not deserve it… plain and simple, he will be our 7 th dman at best, and should not have been resigned, let alone the captain… IMO

      • sprucesens

        no no, make him C then trade him! seems to be the trend. lol

        • Jakester

          I like that idea!

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Meh… He shouldn’t even be on the team, and if he is its as a 7th defender… Not exactly a prime captain candidate

      • Jakester

        Very well said!

  • 4thStringGoalie

    My 2 cents

    That play of the year voting seems fishy. Changes a lot, I doubt they have that many votes coming in….seems like some sort of AI thing going on.

    If Spezza is traded there won’t be a captain next year. 3 assistants until someone steps up.

    • Tooks

      That actually makes the most sense, BUT, we will probably be the only team in the NHL without a Captain, what does that say about our squad…

      • Zelle

        Probably about as much as it said about the Blue Jackets.

        http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/content/stories/2013/10/27/alternate-route.html

        • Tooks

          They will have a Captain and it will be Jack Johnson.

          • Zelle

            Even if they do they went a whole season without one and not only made the playoffs but won the first two playoff games in the club’s history. Not just that but I heard no rumblings about the lack of C patched on a player. So in essence, I think it would say more about our squad than choosing the wrong captain (i.e. another one that will be leaving in a season or two).

    • Jakester

      Oh the whole world will come to an end when Jason Spezza leaves! God forbid we tarnish his memory by naming another Captain! Wake up, Sens will name another Captain, this team will plod along at a better clip than last year and fall will be followed by winter and spring! Pretty sure that’s how it will play out.

      • 4thStringGoalie

        I don’t think the world will come to an end if Spezza is traded and has nothing to do with tarnishing his image. I actually think Spezza was a bit of a failure as a captain and leadership is an issue with this team, hence I don’t see anyone else who at this time is ready to be a captain.

        Philips time has passed, I just don’t think Karlsson is ready yet (on ice he still needs to learn some accountability, off ice seemed a little rough the past year). Turris? MacCarther? Methot? I think they’d just rather wait till Karrlson is ready for it.

        • bluebuyyoo

          “Spezza was a bit of a failure as a captain…”

          So, one year with a shitty team makes him a failure. #11 was the captain of teams with infinitely more talent than the current roster and he continually failed to beat the Leafs when it counted year after year. He eventually turned out to be a pretty good captain, eh?

          Spezza will be moving on, but it will not be because he failed as a captain.

  • Sensturion

    From the NHL website haha:

    ” “Whatever comments they make on us, I’m not a coach that’s going to start making comments on the other team,” he said. “It’s never been my philosophy; I don’t like that. They can say whatever they want, that’s their choice, but we know what we have to do get success.”

    Therrien sure said a lot Monday.”

    • Sandy

      No rispeck.
      Really get under his skin Julien. Start calling Habs players by their numbers. If you are leading by a couple of goals late in the game call a timeout.
      But you are in Mtl now. Expect to be on the penalty kill late in the game if the Habs are losing or if the score is tied… Take that to the bank…

      • Sittin’ In the Bleachers

        Paging Paul MacClone

    • Zelle

      Fans, players and coach are all acting very calm right now. I think part of it is because of last season and the other part is because they are in a winning position this time around.

  • Phoenix

    I’d go with MaCarthur as a Captain at least an assistant. He showed strong leadership this year and it could possibly help in resigning him to an extension

  • Sandy

    Saw this on another website:

    Tippett said a few weeks ago on Team 1200 that when Turris was in Phoenix, he (Tippett) had to play the veterans more and the young kids less due to where the team was in terms of ownership/management
    Translation = Any potential young kids about to break out and get $$$ couldn’t get more ice time due to budget.
    There’s no bad blood between the two.

    • aegiszx

      Careful Sandy, Eugene may be lurking on this board… Gotta make sure CP4 plays 30 mins a night!

      • Brutus5247

        Not sure if he cares what 50 people out of 17000 say!

        • Sandy

          He should care what season ticket holders think though… Even though I’m just one..

  • SensChirp

    There’s a weird thing that I think is going to happen with hockey analytics as they go more “main stream”. I know we don’t talk about this stuff a lot around here but I also know some of you are interested.

    As I hear about more and more teams implementing analytics into their operations, I keep coming back to the same thought and it’s a little tricky to explain. (Disclaimer- Probably because I don’t really have an expert knowledge of this stuff. I’m sure one of the pros can tell me why this isn’t an issue.)

    The analytics on things like shooting percentage,relationship between shot attempts and winning, dumping vs. carrying the puck in- and the trends observed in each, are sort of a product of the way the game is currently played.

    And as teams adopt optimal strategies, according to the advanced statistics that have become increasingly popular, the value of those numbers is going to shift. Shots correlate closely to wins in hockey right now. But that’s partly because of the mindset of the majority of players and coaches. The best players in the game don’t go out there to get a shot. They go out there to score a goal. If teams and coaches start changing their approach to reflect that, ie- shoot from everywhere, I think it will start to change that relationship between shot attempts, shooting percentage and winning hockey teams. Blocked shots will increase. So will goalie save percentages and predictably, shooting percentages will also drop.

    Maybe not significantly, but over time, it’s going to have an impact.

    If coaches and players observe that carrying the puck in is more likely to generate a shot attempt than dumping it in and as a result, start to carry it in more, then I think you’ll see those numbers start to shift too. Defensive strategies will be adjusted to more aggressively defend the line and suddenly, chipping the puck past those aggressive defenders will become a more desirable option.

    And this is sort of the challenge facing the analytics community, which has done some incredible work over the past few seasons. As more and more teams become aware of these analytics, and start to adjust game plans accordingly, will the existing analytics lose their value? What’s so useful about this data right now, especially for teams like Chicago that use them well, is it’s presenting a competitive advantage. Not everyone has bought in. There are still skeptics.

    But what happens when every team in the NHL starts using the same numbers and the same strategies? Do the analytics start to tell a different story?

    Allow me to close with- I have no idea if this makes sense and welcome arguments.

    • A-Train

      There’s definitely something to this. Analytics is based on the concept of value — and how to see it where others don’t. So in baseball there was a new premium placed on “not making an out” — essentially the most basic unit of value you can put towards a win. So walks, HBP etc become more valuable. At the same time previous premium skills like say base-stealing become less. “Moneyball” (the book) explains all this pretty well. And while it seems to have given a team or two the (regular season) edge for a while …. not sure it’s really changed the landscape all that much in the long run.

      I’ve yet to be convinced that hockey analytics are nearly as useful. If anything it gives us a few new ways to talk about why teams are good.

    • sprucesens

      I think it makes sense. as something changes, people see it and adjust, thus making the original conclusion no longer true. Anyways, coaches might teach it, but the player on the ice makes his decision based on his own thoughts at that exact point, not the system in place. If he thinks he can carry it in and generate possession he will. If he see’s a teammate rushing to the blue line, he might cross corner it, in hopes he will beat the defender. In the end, its the smart players that make the proper decision, and have the work ethic to get to where the puck is, that makes all the difference. These players will always be on the right side of whatever stats or measuring stick you try to use. That’s the hockey IQ that everyone always talks about, mixed with ethic. You have those, you get wins. You don’t, and you get boneheaded plays, with players not reading off each other, terrible breakouts and pathetic forechecking. But anywho, that’s my thoughts on most stats.

  • said no one, ever
    • bluebuyyoo

      Very true!

  • sben

    hey everyone, TSN is hosting the plays of the years thing again and there are many senators players who are still in the competition. Go here to vote for Hemsky because he is pretty evenly voted against TJ Oshie.

    http://poy.tsn.ca/1-nhl2014/match/17-hemsky-vs-oshie

  • Zelle

    Wish the WHC game was televised today, even if it doesn’t count. Really excited to see Turris-Mack combo. I’m also curious to see if they will be putting Kadri on his LW.

    • Jakester

      Maybe TUrris and Kadri will become buddies! Lol

      • Zelle

        Could you imagine? lol Turris calls up Kadri and tells him to come play for the Senators a la Crosby re: Iginla.

        • peetypuck

          No, even my nightmares aren’t that scary.

          • sprucesens

            if he told mackinnon to come play for the sens, that would be ok… i guess. If we have too. ;)

  • Sandy

    I missed what happened to Chara… Did anyone see?

  • Deadly

    Goal of the year..PK on Vanek.

    • Zelle

      Almost as good as Kadri’s flying elbow hit on Lupul.

  • luckan20

    Bruins are little rattled.

    • Zelle

      Honestly they have looked rattled since the first time the Canadiens scored in G1.

  • Deadly

    Those backing up hits by Subban are reckless. Cherry will be looking forward to the coaches corner.

    • Tooks

      Um yeah he loves em. Big hit that set the tone for MTL fo the rest of the night, they fed off that hit/goal by Subban.

  • Tooks

    What a hit to set the tone! Thats what happens when a team takes the identity of their best player, that wasnt a penalty but the Habs would kill that penalty 100% of the time, then Subban scores on the breakaway!

    • Deadly

      Great hit..hopefully Vanek will be back.

      • Tooks

        He did come back and was no worde for wear.

  • Zelle

    Not even sure why they bothered reviewing that lol

  • Tim

    BSens goalies and d-men rated for the year.
    Hammond B
    Lawson C
    Claesson A+
    Ceci A
    Wideman B+
    Boro B
    Grant B
    Mullen B
    Sdao C
    New C
    Blood D
    Eckford F
    Rutkowski Incomplete.
    These were according to the Press and Sun down here

    • Jakester

      Claessen is just solid in all facets.

  • Sensturion

    Last I checked, that was cheating.

    • Sensturion

      Even CBC was saying that should’ve been a been a penalty shot. Huh.

    • sprucesens

      yup, that was brutal. my father in law had to call me and vent. He almost become one of those people… But that’s just brutal reffing. Had that shot of happened and tied the game, big change. man do i hate montreal and the shit they get away with…

      • Sensturion

        I’m curious as to what would have happened had they scored with the net off. Do they call it back? The refs didn’t seem inclined to blow the whistle for a bit there.

        • Zelle

          Goal is waived off. Happened with the Kings where Quick obviously knocked his net off and didn’t even try to fix it. Play went all the way at the other end of the rink, came back, opposing team (forget who) scores. Referee finally notices the net is off the moorings and the goal is waived off.

          • sprucesens

            you think they ever fix the crap rules in this game that are clearly wrong? watching the oil kings now, and they had a goal called back for kicking motion, which barely was, more of a player stopping. Just make the rule where the puck goes in, unless its off a glove pushing it forward, its a goal. If you want a kicking motion, make it, the leg has to go backwards, then forwards to be called a kicking motion. Then there won’t be a grey area. And also, ANY play the directly effects a goal should be reviewable. Whether its net off, puck off the mesh, goalie interfered with, offisides, icing, or other penalties. If it leads to a goal is should be reviewable. Anywho…

  • Zelle

    Interesting game at the end there. Slashes, blatant interference, elbows, lucky these guys aren’t killing each other. Referees are lucky they didn’t lose control of the game more than they did. First game I thought Montreal was the better team overall. Nice to see Price so calm in net. Drastically different from last year against the Senators and three years ago against the Bruins. I’m a little disappointed in this series though, needs more drama, haha.

  • bluebuyyoo

    Peel and Rooney. The NHL’s finest working the post-season and continuing the tradition of completely incompetent officiating. When will these guys ever learn that not making a call can have just as much an effect on the game as making the correct call.

    • Dirk-Diggler

      I want to see the refs call things consistently from minute 1 to minute 60!

      It’s frustrating to fans when the scope of the game changes between periods.

      • The Apostle

        It’s also frustrating when they let so much go in overtime because they are terrified that penalising a team could mean them losing the game.

        The other side to that though is that most people enjoy playoff hockey because the refs let more of the physical stuff go – my wish is that they just call the regular season like the playoffs. The lack of consistenmcy in refereeing (which is sometimes unavoidable) is a blight.

        • Tooks

          I would love to have playoff hockey for 82 games but players would just die, lol. They have to draw the line and balance it out a bit, thats why we see a difference in regular season and playoff hockey.

      • Tooks

        That would be stupid, each team would have 14 Powerplays and would slow down the game tremendously. There has to be leway and things have to be let go.

  • Sandy

    Edmonton won the game tonight.. Lazar with an assist. Series is now 2-1 for Portland…
    Guelph came back with 2 goals in the last 30 sec of the game to win. They lead the series against North Bay 3-2.
    Looks like Bryzgalov gets a shutout against Chicago??? That’s a surprise…
    And the really bad news of the night is the f’in Habs won. IF they ever get by the Bruins.. they will cruise through the Pens and will be in the SCF… I really hate the thought of that…

    • sprucesens

      yup watched the game, and going to the one tomorrow.(oil kings)

  • 383

    I said it after Game 3 in the TB v MTL series, and I can’t believe I’m saying it again, but my god did they ever miss a call. This time on the PK/Net situation. Just like the wrong call was made in GM 3 with the goalie interference.

    I really start to wonder what is going on with the refs. In general, they make the best calls they can, some more than others. But it’s when they try and make a unnecessarily “bold” call, like in TBay/MTL Gm3 and then go towards the other end of the spectrum with the COMPLETE missed call and it’s almost like they don’t have the balls to make the right call.

    Very confusing and really pulls the integrity of the entire league into question when the refs are missing such obvious shit.

  • Andrews theory

    if the cap drops, it’s going to further limit the amount of teams in the running for Spezza and may in fact trigger the availability of some other high profile players with hefty salaries on other clubs.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Why would the cap drop? Isn’t it expected to be anywhere between 69 and 71 million?

  • Andrews theory

    watching Dougie Hamilton, whom I’ve been following since the Juniors, it really resonates how stupid the whole Cowen thing was this year specific to his playing time. Hamilton is arguably the better defender and I would hazard the one with greater upside yet Boston was smart enough to bring him along slowly, sitting him and having him watch some games- that patience is paying dividends now, not sure why anyone thought it was a good idea to try and rush Cowen along.

    • Phil.

      I completely agree, but I think it’s easier to do and justify when the team is winning and the other D are playing well.

    • FistsofNeil25

      It looks like we’re doing the same thing with Ceci. Hopefully Ceci will
      be able to handle it better than Cowen. Unfortunately we don’t have the
      luxury of depth and the ability to spend to the cap like Boston does

      • runningbear1974

        I think Ceci is already ahead of Cowen with respect to development… He’s smarter, more mobile…

        • Andrews theory

          Ceci is a beaut and i dont think you can understate the “smarter” peice, Cowen looks like Seinfeld on Mushrooms lol…

    • runningbear1974

      It’s too bad because Cowen seemed to respond well to being sat out… He should be sat out a lot more, not as punishment, but as a development opportunity…

    • Deadly

      On the other hand,as bad as he was ,he was even on plus minus and had more points this year than the last one he played. maybe he wasn’t as bad as we think he was.

  • runningbear1974

    What could be our best 4th line?

    • runningbear1974

      Greening-Pageau-Lazar …

      I’m really liking the idea of Pageau on the 4th line… I trust him on 5 on 3s… He’s solid defensively, he’s just small so probably couldn’t handle too many minutes against big bodies… Because he’s small, get him some big wingers… Since Lazar might play in nhl because he can’t play ahl, then give him some easier minutes to adjust to the nhl…

    • runningbear1974

      Greening-Pageau-Neil
      Greening-Pageau-Condra

      Greening-Smith-Lazar
      Smith-Lazar-Pageau

      Greening-Smith-Lazar (this could be strong line)

    • runningbear1974

      Sorry, got my own thing going on here… It’s really too bad Greening-Smith-Neil aren’t better at everything they do… Better hitting, better scoring chances…
      Do we have the players to make a 4th like Boston’s 4th?