Trading Anderson an Option for Ottawa

SensChirp May 28, 2014 297
Trading Anderson an Option for Ottawa

It’s going to be an interesting summer for the Ottawa Senators.

With the Captain on the trade block and some openings expected in the team’s top six forwards, there are some important decisions for Bryan Murray and his staff to tackle over the next few months.  We’ve talked about it at length but with five key players entering the last year of their contract, the Senators also have to look ahead to next summer and decide on the direction they plan to take with those guys. And while they don’t need to make any moves on that front until the summer of 2015, you know Murray will start those conversations on July 1.

Of those five, the future of Craig Anderson is seemingly the most influx. Still considered the number one goalie for this team, Anderson is entering the final year of a four year contract that saw him earn an average of $3,187,500 a season. As of July 1, 2015, Anderson will be an unrestricted free agent.

It’s no secret at this point- Robin Lehner is waiting in the wings and has been hunting down the number one role for the past couple seasons. Lehner started 12 games in the lockout shortened season, posting a .936 save percentage and a 2.20 GAA. Predictably Lehner regressed a little bit last season, but played more often, starting 36 games and posting a .913 save percentage and a 3.06 GAA.

He filled in admirably on a couple of occasions when Anderson missed time due to injury. If he’s not ready to take on the number one role, he’s darn close.  Lehner is a restricted free agent this summer and is negotiating a few different options with the team including a longer term deal as well as a bridge contract, believed to be 2 years in length.

And this is where Murray has to decide what the plan if for Anderson. Both sides have said all the right things so far. The Senators like the idea of having two capable goalies and Anderson has certainly enjoyed his time here in Ottawa. Anderson is 33 years old and is probably looking for a similar contract to his last one on that next contract. I’m certain the starting job in Florida was of interest to Anderson but with Luongo there, that option seems to have gone out the window.

So as much as Ottawa can say they like the idea of having two capable goalies, it’s hard to see them committing to Anderson long term with Lehner there and ready to take over the number one role. This is where the trade option has to be considered. It’s always hard to get a read on the market for goalies for an experienced guy at a reasonable cap hit and with limited term on his deal has to be of interest around the league.

I don’t believe the Senators enter this off season with the intent of dealing Anderson but if a team came calling, they would have to listen. And I suspect that will be the case throughout the season and leading up to next year’s deadline. If Ottawa did deal Anderson, there are some decent veteran free agent options that they could consider as Lehner’s back up.

Whether it happens this summer or during the season, the Ottawa Senators are going to have to make a decision on Craig Anderson’s future with the team.

  • Doc

    Now’s the time for sure, in part for the same reason as Spezza.

    4 mill cap hit, but a little over 3 in real money for one year of a #1 goalie. I would definitely look at trading him for a pick this summer.

    Give the reins to Lehner and sign a cheap backup goalie (or give one of the young guys a chance).

  • Dirk-Diggler

    I can’t see there being a big market for Andy… There are so many goalies that are UFAs that need a home.. Better to keep him and sign him to a 2 year extension to help mentor Lehner

    • SensChirp

      Another good option if he’s willing to take a slightly lower cap hit on a short term deal. Depends if he still sees himself as a starter though and I think he does.

      • Doc

        That’s the main reason why I think he should be traded this summer.

        He won’t want to sign at a discount, especially when he knows Lehner is waiting for his chance. Plus, I don’t think we’d get the same return if we waited for the trade deadline.

        • Tooks

          Yep sell at the draft to move up! Thats probably what Murray has planned to get us that 1st pick.

        • peetypuck

          I Agree. As you said earlier it’s probably a buyers market for goalies. That should make it easier to replace Anderson with another young hotshot like Bishop for cheap.

  • Zelle

    I’d rather they go with Lehner. Andy likely has no interest in playing backup or 50/50 just to help Lehner’s development. Lehner sitting on the bench for 80% of the season is a waste.

  • SensChirp

    The next question- Which teams would be looking for a goalie this summer?

    • Doc

      There lies the problem. It’s going to be a buyers market and the value of goalies is at an all time low.

    • Mclovin

      Minnesota – but they have backstrom and harding under contract with kumper an rfa.
      St Louis just resigned Elliot.
      Calgary only has Ramo under contract….
      Buffalo has Neuvirth and Enroth….

      I could see teams that need an ungrade, but we’d have to take a goalie back.

      • Tooks

        Sure take Enroth and have him compete with Lehner. 2 Swedes!

    • Mclovin

      If Vancouver wants a quick turnaround, I could see that being a fit, but again, we’d likely have to take back Lack.

      • Tooks

        Sure take Lack and have him compete with Lehner. 2 Swedes!

      • Richard Gough

        I would ask for markstrom

    • Doc

      Another question – If we do keep him around for the last year of his contract, would he be willing to take a lesser role in order for Lehner to start taking the bulk of games?

      • peetypuck

        If we keep Anderson around will we end up in a similar scenario as Vancouver with Luongo and Schneider both wanting the #1 job? We don’t want to get into a situation like that.

        • Doc

          Not the same situation at all. Anderson likely won’t be re-signed, and the team knows (as welll as the players) that Lehner will be the number goalie going forward.

          Now the question is, will this happen next season, or in two season?

          • peetypuck

            Well, we know that Lehner is probably “biting at the chain” to be the #1 goaltender and Anderson doesn’t want to be a back-up to him. I don’t see their views changing going into next season. I guess it all depends on whether Lehner is ready to “take the reigns”.

          • Doc

            For sure.

            They’ll have to make that decision soon enough.

      • Tooks

        If he wants to be back up, which I doubt he does, would be an expensive one. Keeping him for the year means your rdy to lose him for nothing at the end. Best thing for the Org is to get something for him before he becomes a UFA.

        • Doc

          Agree.

    • Spoons

      St-Louis won`t re-sign Miller and recently signed Elliot to a contract. Seems they see Elliott and Allen as their tandem. I find it kind of weak for a contending team. Maybe, just MAYBE an Anderson-Spezza package to St-Louis would make sense for both teams.

      • SensChirp

        Minnesota will be looking for a goalie but maybe thats where Miller ends up. What about Detroit?

        • Doc

          Minnesota is one of the only teams that might be looking for a goalie.

          • Tooks

            Minny is one yeah, they like their Americans, send him there for a roster player and a pick.

          • Doc

            I’d be happy with a decent pick.

        • Spoons

          I was thinking more of Vancouver. There’s a LACK of experience between the pipes between Markstrom and Lack. What Detroit really needs is to find a way to play without Lidstrom. They have the same core, but they’re just not the same anymore. He was THAT influencial on that team.

          • Zelle

            I see what you did there.

          • Tooks

            I think they are dead set on Lack being the future in VAN.

        • spezzerman

          nothing wrong with Howard and they have the amazing Mrazek waiting in the, ahem, wings.

      • Jakester

        Great comment package him with Spezza, we’ll take Elliott or Allen! Lol

      • http://batman-news.com Johnny Skills

        I was thinking the same thing about not signing Miller…seemed odd that St.Louis wouldn’t want Miller. Then who do Sens bring back, Allen, or the return of Elliott.

    • Dirk-Diggler

      The teams at the moment looking for a goalie would be Calgary, Buffalo, Vancouver and Winnipeg. But, I can see all of those teams addressing their needs via free agency.

      • http://batman-news.com Johnny Skills

        I’d love to get a deal done with Winnipeg. I think there is potential there. Like Anderson for Ladd (aging Captain) Of course you’d have to tip the scales with Greening/Condra. And I know everyone wants Kane…but thats a stretch for Andy.
        And the reason I say Ladd is this team needs some leadership (like…Alfie would have provided…*cough* cough* Melnyk screwed him)

    • Richard Gough

      Vancouver

  • Hax

    I think it hinges a lot on the return for Spezza. If that return is weaker than we’d like then moving Anderson to fill some gaps becomes a bit more likely. Or if we have to shave some dollars that could drive a trade as well.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    I think you keep him and trade him in the year to a team that needs a goalie because their #1 guy gets hurt.

    If we were to trade him though during the year who else do we have to split duties with Lehner? What if Lehner gets hurt? It’s why I’d be happy keeping Andy.

    • Doc

      Tricky situation for sure.

      Like I mentioned earlier, it’s a buyers market so the return won’t be great either way. If we do keep Andy, I would still like for Lehner to get the bulk of games.

      • Dirk-Diggler

        Lehner should play 40-45 games this year.. 50-55 games the following year and 55-60 the following year and from then on hopefully 60-65 thereafter

        • Zelle

          If you watched any of Anderson’s interviews you can tell he will not be happy with that arrangement.

          • peetypuck

            I thought that during this season he said something about only wanting to be the starter?

          • Zelle

            He very well could have, it wouldn’t surprise me. He looked very upset when he decided he was good to go after his injury but they left Lehner in nets. I honestly don’t believe he would be satisfied with 50/50 play time.

          • peetypuck

            I think you’re dead on about that.

  • Tooks

    I agree SC, if a team comes a knocking and inquires about Andy, IF they are serious and offering something worth our time, then we would be stupid not to listen and keep our options open.

    I would have no qualms about trading Andy if we got a veteran back up for Lehner. Dubnyk, Greiss, Montoya…etc…

  • FistsofNeil25

    I don’t think it makes any sense to trade Andy right now. Not only will we not get much value in return for him, but Lehner has done next to nothing to show he’s ready to carry this team between the pipes.

    I love Lehner and I think he has franchise goalie potential, but after his up and down season this year I think it would be foolish to hand him the net without him actually doin anything to earn it.

    Keep Anderson and see who emerges as the teams #1 goalie this season. If Lehner outplays Andy then it’s his net to protect, and then we can consider dealing Andy before the deadline.

    I don’t know what Lehner has shown us to indicate he’s ready to be a starter other than potential.

    • Doc

      You can’t put the blame on the goalies though. We had the worst D in the league and the goalies were left to hang.

      Lehner needs to play games, not just back Andy here and there. If we want to develop him properly, you need to decide sooner rather than later to give him the reins.

      • Tooks

        Agreed, let him develop in nets rather than backing up. Its his net, wether its now or in 2 years, he is the next goalie bar none. Let him play and gain valuable experience by facing adversity, losses. He has to mature and what better way than being humbled every other night. IF he is a true competitor, he will battle through this and get better for it, teammates will play better for him, etc…

        Waiting till the deadline to trade Andy you just lost all value for him. Teams will shore up their goaltending at the draft or before season starts.

        • Doc

          I look at Lehner’s situation the same way I looked at Price.

          Price came in the league at a very young age, and had MANY ups and down, some as recently as last year (horrible) and this year (awesome).

          You need to let these guys play through their hardships. They’ll become better players because of it.

          • Dirk-Diggler

            ya man… young goalies have growing pains, just like young D… it’s a tough league. Give the guy some rope

  • aegiszx

    Lehner – Dubnyk.

    Make it happen, BM!!!!!!

    • Doc

      Meh.

      MTL got him and never played. Didn’t he play for 4 different teams last season? That has to say something.

      • aegiszx

        To be fair, the D in front of him didnt exactly help… I think he will have a bounce back season.

        • Doc

          He could be had for cheap, that’s for sure.

        • Tooks

          With our D???
          Its probably gonna be the worse he’s seen since EDM. But he’s a pretty decent back up.

    • Sandy

      Dubnyk? He downright sucks. Imagine Lehner getting injured and you have to go with an extended time of Dubnyk. This team then falls to 30th overall.. easily..

  • Mclovin

    I just can’t seen him being moved when teams can have miller or hiller without giving up assets.

    To Buff for Conacher and a 4th (wait a second…..)

    • Tooks

      True but both of them just lost their starting jobs in their respective teams. Miller just blew up in STL, arguably the BEST D in the League…

      Hiller lost his job outright.

      I agree tho, lots of goalies in UFA, but someone will bite on Andy.

  • BMurray

    I say move him, get Thomas or vokoun to back up Lehner prob 50/30 split… I think if cap relief you want and fill your roster, moving Spezza/Anderson in seperate deals would be good.

    NOW WHO WANTS ANDERSON
    Vancouver
    Washington
    Minnesota
    St-louis
    Calgary
    Buffalo

    • aegiszx

      Vokoun wont go to non-contending teams. He’s been very vocal about that. He wants to win a cup within the next 1-2 years… Thomas, well, I dont think his character would last very long in a country as liberal as Canada. So, yeah.

      We could go for Bryz or Dubynk?

      • Tooks

        I doubt Bryz wants to back up, especially with the run he had with Minny, almost stole it from Chicago.

        • Jakester

          He sucks

      • BMurray

        need someone who can step in and actually play 30 games. I say Thomas

        • Doc

          No to the head case.

      • sprucesens

        god no to bryz or dubnyk. dub will never see the nhl again. playing overseas I believe. bryz might not be far behind

        • Jakester

          I think Lawson is better than those 2

    • Zelle

      I’d be happy with Vokoun but I think Thomas was one and done. Sure he can steal games but he also has a LOT of bad ones. Too inconsistent.

    • Dirk-Diggler

      I’d love to have Thomas on our team… he always plays well at CTC. He has said the lighting is perfect for him to see pucks…

    • Hax

      I don’t like Thomas. Heard too many things about a bad attitude/influence in the room.

    • peetypuck

      50/30 split? What happened to the other 20? lol (70/30, 60/40, 50/50).

  • BMurray

    Anderson Trade options

    Washington

    Burakovsky+ 2nd

    Minnnesota

    Zack Phillip+ 2nd

    St-louis
    VANNELLI +3rd

    calgary
    2nd+3rd

    Buffalo
    erhoff for anderson+weircoch

    • Kohlmanator

      I think Winnipeg is an option. I doubt they are happy with Pavelec. As for the return, who knows…

      • Tooks

        Doubt they are happy?
        He is the Winnipeg Jets, he is their best player and they go as he goes. They need more help on D than they need in G.

  • The Apostle

    What did Miller go for at the deadline?

    • bluebuyyoo

      Miller and Ott for Halak, Stewart, prospect William Carrier, a 2015 first-round pick and a 2016 third-round pick.

  • BMurray

    MILLER >>Anderson

  • Spinorama

    Anderson for Edler
    win win for both

    • Doc

      You’d have to add more to Anderson to get that done.

      • Spinorama

        Of course. This is the base of the trade. Wed be getting lack or markstrom also we can add pw46… vancouver is the best for trade. They need a shake up there.

        • peetypuck

          Why not just go after the Sedin twins? They might be willing to move now that it looks like Vancouver is not a contender any more. They probably have 3-5 more good years left. Imagine the Sedin line and the Turris line. That’s quite a potent offensive attack to defend against.

          • Spinorama

            Ok my suggestion is not far fetched. Mentioning sedins is a waste of comment space. That being said… spezza who !??? Lol that would be solid.

          • peetypuck

            Gretzky getting traded was thought to be far-fetched, even “unthinkable”.

    • Zelle

      I honestly don’t understand what people see in Edler.

      • Spinorama

        6’3 220 LBS left handed shot , played with karlsson at olympics, hard shot on pp. Perfect karlsson partner. Last years stats are result of torts coaching. Check his numbers before that. He is methot with more talent.
        whats not to like ? Then u can play ceci and methot. Solid top four.

        • peetypuck

          How gritty a player is he? I’m don’t know a whole lot about Edler.

        • Zelle

          Lazy, not a difference maker in the playoffs, overall play never really impressed me, frequent defensive “mishaps”. I often hear announcers talking about all this talent he has but I find him incredibly frustrating. Canucks are my second favorite team and I want him traded, just not to the Senators.

    • Hax

      Not familiar enough with Edler to really know if he’s overrated or not. But with him as a leftie, how would you picture our top 6 with him? I assume we’d send a young D back in that trade. But you have to include Phillips since he’s signed and not going anywhere. Plus Methot. So that leave Cowen, Wiercioch and Borowiecki on the left side (minus whoever you send in the Edler trade). Not to mention guys in Bingo.

  • sprucesens

    I think for the team its best to sign andy to a 1 year extension at the same money, let lehner run with it, at about 50/50. But I doubt Anderson wants anything to do with that scenario. Problem is, we trade andy, and sign some career back up goalie, all of a sudden the top pick looks very real, especially if lehner doesn’t fit the bill, or worse, gets hurt. We might be in the scenario to do neither option. Run with lehner/andy 50 50, and just lose him to UFA at year end, if we are still in contention for a spot.

    • peetypuck

      IMO there’s nothing wrong with getting one of the top two picks next year considering they’re considered to be future franchise players. If Lehner takes the ball and runs with it then we probably have our franchise goalie for years to come. If not, well it’s back to the drawing room and we pick up some top prospects. The only factor between the two scenarios is the time. It will take a year or two more to get where we want the team to be. Just my opinion.

    • Tooks

      I say go with Lehner and a back up. If we do well, thats great, if not, we pick in the top 5 for 2015….McDavid, Eichel, Barzal, Konecny, Pilon, Anderssen, Saarela….and it goes on and on, SUPER deep draft!

      • peetypuck

        If it’s a super deep draft we don’t want to be drafting in the bottom half. That happened to us in the exceptional 2003 draft when Muckler took Patrick Eaves.

        • WaitingSince92

          Although if you look at that year, you could picked near the end of the first round and still had your pick of Perry, Weber, Bergeron, Eriksson, Carle, Backes…

          • peetypuck

            Bryan Murray picked Corey Perry (27th ?) just before Muckler picked (29th ?). Missed him by thaaat much.

          • Tooks

            Ya and in the 5th round Muckler was on his 10th scotch, took Sergei Gimayev instead of Joe Pevelski, who went 205th, 7th round. What a gem!

          • peetypuck

            At least he did a bit better in 2005. lol We got a few games out of Brian Lee. haha

          • Rafi Bomb

            Muckler would have passed on Perry if he was available. He just wasn’t good at drafting.

          • peetypuck

            I think the best player that he drafted in all those years was Nick Foligno with Greening/Condra coming in 2nd. Pitiful. Then he traded away or lost our best picks/prospects plus Chara and Hossa. Not to mention picking Brian Lee. Sheesh, he was a one-man wrecking crew.

          • FistsofNeil25

            I don’t get what people are talking about when they say that Muckler wasn’t good at drafting. We wouldn’t have had gems like Greening and Condra if it weren’t for Mucks!

          • Rafi Bomb

            It sucks that Muckler didn’t know how to draft. We wasted a ton of picks and we could have had a world class team instead.
            We could have had:
            2003 Draft: 1st: Shea Weber/Patrice Bergeron/David Backes

            2004 Draft: 1st: Cory Schnieder/Dave Bolland
            2nd: Brandon Dubinsky/David Krejci
            3rd: Alexander Edler

            2005 Draft: 1st: Anze Kopitar/Marc Staal/Martin Hanzal/Tuuka Rask/ TJ Oshie/James Neal
            3rd: Jonathan Quick
            4th: Niklas Hjalmarsson

            2006 Draft: 1st: Milan Lucic
            3rd: Brad Marchand

            Imagine how many Stanley Cups we would have if we drafted even half of the players we could have.

          • Doc

            That could be said of any team though. Hindsight is always 20/20.

            Even the teams that drafted those players didn’t know the extent of how good some of them would turn out to be.

          • peetypuck

            The point is Muckler left us with no prospects and no Chara or Hossa. I think he did his drafting by reading Craig Button’s draft list.

          • Rafi Bomb

            That is true to a certain extent but at the same time those teams weren’t just making random picks. They had some kind of evaluation process in place and they ended up taking the right players. If Muckler’s scouting staff had any ability whatsoever we would have nabbed one or two of the above players at the very least.

          • peetypuck

            Imagine what we could have got back if Muckler would of just traded Chara before the draft instead of just letting him walk.
            I remember Bryan Murray hiring a number of scouts as soon as he took over from Mucks. I seriously think that Muckler went by ISS and Central Scouting’s draft lists. Or maybe he just called Bob MacKenzie before each pick. lol

          • Rafi Bomb

            Or just kept Chara instead of Redden.

          • peetypuck

            I don’t even want to think about it. It’s too depressing.

          • Rafi Bomb

            Obviously our team would look a lot different than this but it is cool to think that we could currently have a roster of:

            Milan Lucic-Anze Koptiar-Bobby Ryan
            Brad Marchand-David Krejci-Curtis Lazar
            Mika Zibanejad-Kyle Turris-Mark Stone
            Zack Smith-Mike Fisher-Chris Neil
            Brian McGrattan

            Erik Karlsson-Shea Weber
            Alexander Edler-Zdeno Chara
            Nicklas Hjalmarsson-Jared Cowen
            Cody Ceci

            Jonathan Quick
            Robin Lehner

          • peetypuck

            I think I’m going to be sick.

          • Sandy

            Could they fit that under the salary cap?

          • Sandy

            That’s what you get when Muckler only had 2 full time scouts and a couple of part timers.

          • Rafi Bomb

            He only had 2 full time scouts? I didn’t know that, know wonder we sucked at drafting.

        • Tooks

          Muckler was drunk, give him a break!
          Dammit we could of had….

          Bergeron
          Weber….yeah Shea Weber!!!
          Matt Carle
          Corey Crawford
          David Backes

          • peetypuck

            Probably !

        • s3nsfan75

          or a couple years later when he brilliantly drafted Brian Lee lol

          • peetypuck

            I know. What a Schmuck-ler. lol

      • FistsofNeil25

        You forgot Noah Hanifin – The best defenseman in the draft who is right up there with McDavid and Eichel.

        • peetypuck

          Tim Murray must be salivating. He has Buffalo’s and the Islanders 1st pick next year.

          • FistsofNeil25

            Yeah he’s going to be able to build quite the team there unfortunately. Our division is going to get tougher the next few years. BUF, MTL, TB, FLA, and BOS all have a good young core pieces.

          • peetypuck

            That’s another reason why we need to stay in rebuild this year to get one of those top draft picks. Trade Spezza and Anderson for prospects and/or picks.

          • WaitingSince92

            One that note, perhaps we should trade any assets, whether it’s Spezza or Anderson, to the Islanders to maximize our return.

            Essentially giving up your potential franchise player in the 2015 draft, Moulson, then Vanek and geting back Collberg…

          • peetypuck

            I mentioned a few days ago that trading Spezza to the Islanders would be a good “strategic” move by Bryan Murray. The Islanders get better and their 1st pick to Buffalo next year will not be as good as it could be. Both teams have less of a chance at the #1 overall next season. Although Buffalo’s own pick might be the #1 at least the Islanders would hopefully not finish with the #2 overall. If Bryan Murray plays it right by trading Spezza and Anderson we could possibly give Buffalo a run for their money.
            There are now three Murray GM’s in the NHL. It’s starting to get complicated.

        • Tooks

          Yep forgot him, USA has some very good prospects coming up wow!

  • runningbear1974

    If he’s willing to accept a team discount then re-sign him… I think 4 years at 3 million a year is fair… If he wants more, or wants more responsibility, or needs any kind of special attention, then trade him… There are some guys will be quite happy to have an opportunity to play, and prove themselves…

    • FistsofNeil25

      I don’t think we should be extending him. We should just hold on to him at least until next year’s deadline to see if Lehner takes a step forward or not. There’s no sense in re-signing him to a 4 year extension.

      • runningbear1974

        He is a stabilizing factor… I would keep him until we have a young guy ready to step up into the backup role… Which, in my opinion, is several years away… With Anderson we know what we’re getting… He does provide leadership to Lehner…

        • FistsofNeil25

          If Lehner hasn’t improved by this time next season then I’m all for extending Andy. I don’t think it’s necessary at this point in time though. Let’s see how next season plays out. Maybe Andy will even regress a bit. Who knows.

        • WaitingSince92

          Backups are a dime a dozen. We could acquire one with any number of low-level assets.

  • Jakester

    On MyNhlTrade Rumors.com talking about potential trades for James Neal he mentions these 3

    DePaoli lists three trade proposal’s for Neal.

    1. James Neal and Simon Despres to Tampa Bay for Teddy Purcell, Brett Connelly and a 1st round pick, 17th overall.

    2. James Neal to Edmonton for David Perron and Mitch Moroz.

    3. James Neal to Winnipeg for Evander Kane.

    The first one to Tampa includes Brett Connelly that is the player the Sens should try to get out of Tampa. A guy who would excel playing for the Sens. Connelly on Zibby’s wing would be sick! Big Right winger who can skate and create his own room out there! You have to make the move this summer though! Ok calling Bryan now!

    • Tooks

      Bah would rather they go after better players like Purcell or Perron.

  • Zelle

    New prospect? “The Ottawa Senators announced today that the club has signed Ohio State forward Max McCormick to a two-year entry-level contract. McCormick joins Ohio State teammate and fellow Sens prospect Ryan Dzingel in the organization who signed his entry-level deal with the club on April 2.”

    Can’t say I know anything about this kid. Anyone have anything to add about him?

    • Doc

      Not new, and a depth guy at best.

  • xN1Cx

    http://instagram.com/p/ojDN7wo-lq/
    Max McCormick. Anyone know anything about this guy?

    • Jakester

      He isn’t new, drafted same year as Dzingel, teammates at Ohio State. A high energy player with some offensive upside, not nearly as much as Dzingel. Future 3rd or 4th liner

      • Zelle

        Somehow I knew you’d know something ;)

      • Jakester

        Kid is a project

    • Tooks

      Not much is known yet…

      McCormick recently completed his third season with the Buckeyes, scoring 11 goals and establishing new collegiate career highs in assists (24) and points (35) in 37 games

    • Rafi Bomb

      He is an agitator with some decent skill. He has the ability to be a comparable player to Andrew Shaw (who he has compared his style of play to as well as Marchand).

  • A-Train

    Two thoughts on this:

    - I think Murray is very mindful of this team’s recent past as a goalie graveyard. He’s used the term a number of times himself. Fear of sliding back into that world may trump the asset management part of this equation.

    - Murray’s workload. The sheer amount of high-profile contracts and trades he has to get done in the next little while seems to make finding and signing a veteran backup an unnecessary hassle. Another reason to kick the can down the road and get one more season out of the Anderson/Lehner tandem.

    • runningbear1974

      I’m not sure but I think it will take Lehner a few years to stabilize as a goalie… And, even after he’s established, he’ll still need a partner… Anderson can be that guy, or he can temporarily be a #1 somewhere else… I don’t think anyone thinks Anderson is one of the better goalies out there… “I want to win the cup, therefore I need Anderson”… I don’t think anyone is saying that…

      • Tooks

        Well they aint saying “I want to win a Cup, therefore I need Miller? Uh no I meant Hiller?”

        I’m sure Anderson can hold his own vs those 2 and thats why there is a good chance we can move him to a contender like ANA, SJ or dweller like BUF and NYI. Andy has a modified NTC, whatever that means.

        • runningbear1974

          I don’t know Hiller, but I think Miller is considered better than Anderson… At least I think so… Anyway, if a team is willing to “overpay” for Anderson, and we don’t “need” him, then trade him… He won’t be the reason we win…

        • FistsofNeil25

          Tim Murray has his eyes on next years top pick so he’s going to be happy to run with Enroth and Neuvirth. NYI just signed Halak to a big money deal, ANA wants to promote Gibson and they still have Andersen there to share the crease. SJ isn’t going to move on from Niemi unless it’s for a legitimate upgrade, which Anderson isn’t.

          So pretty much none of those team’s you listed need Andy.

          • Tooks

            Oh they need, they just dont want to accept it.

          • FistsofNeil25

            Not really. What’s so special about Andy to make those teams need him? Anderson isn’t a significant enough upgrade over what SJ, NYI, and ANA already have to get them to where they want to be, and acquiring Andy could potentially interfere with Tim’s plans of tanking next season, like it did with us the year we acquired him at the deadline.

    • Jakester

      He also mentioned at this years trade deadline that he might move a goalie again… So go figure.

  • spgottawa

    Reality is that the return for Anderson may be not that great now or during next season. (and if he’s doing great during the season and the Sens are in a playoff position they won’t want to move him…) So if you think you want/need him for the year, you keep him and let him walk at the end. IF you are confident in Lehner and/or you really want/need to save $1.5-$2 mill salary then you move him now and take what you can get.

    Personally, I think I’d take the cash and put it together with what you save on the Spezza trade and add another piece to the team. The Sens are not going to win the cup next year so give the time in the crease to Lehner. The extra piece (or upgrade) may give you a better chance of making the playoffs and/or winning a series or two….

  • WaitingSince92

    We play both goalies and run with whoever is hot. If Lehner struggles, we have Anderson. If Lehner establishes himself, deal Andy at the deadline and acquire a cheap backup.

    Anderson’s a low salary goalie so he doesn’t break the bank or present a big risk to acquire. I think he’s attractive to smart teams at the deadline because he’s proven at times he can be a force, but I don’t think the return would be too much (hence the low-risk) due to his inconsistency.

  • http://@CARLOSwSPECR1 CARLOSwSPECR1

    So, what happened to the “3 year rebuild?” I feel like we started back on square 1.

    • Sandy

      With the Owner wanting to save $$ .. it will be basically a continuous re-build.. It certainly will be one next season.

    • runningbear1974

      Alfie leaving hurt us badly… And, not being able to find someone to play with Spezza…
      At least now we’ll have a more well rounded core of players to build upon… I’m personally loving this change of direction…
      I was pretty sick of cheering for Alfie, and Spezza…

    • http://@CARLOSwSPECR1 CARLOSwSPECR1

      But I thought the point was to “win-it-all” for Alfie on the 3rd year. Sort-of got me thinking that Dave (SensChirp) was right and Melynk was BS’ing us the whole time. I think our owner is content with being a basement-budget team. Sort of like the Florida Panthers, or Pheonix Cayotes.

  • Pasky

    I think Anderson would be perfect for Pittsburgh. It might not be ideal for him since he has to compete with Fleury for the starting job, but his style is that of someone who likes to see lots of shots. I’d have to go look at how many shots Pitts allows per game but watching them play they aren’t that reliable on defense.

    Wonder what we would have to add for a Neal-Zatkoff package.

    • Jakester

      Andy and someone for Neal, would be ok.

    • Rafi Bomb

      James Neal would be a great addition to our top six. We need a gritty power forward type and he might be one of the few that are actually available.

      • peetypuck

        He’s good in the regular season but he only has 11 goals in 37 playoff games with Pittsburgh. A scoring percentage of 7.43. That’s a d-mans S%. That’s playing with Crosby and Malkin.

        • Tooks

          Yeah playing behind those 2, in Ottawa, he would be option #1!

          • FistsofNeil25

            Neal looks great with Geno feeding him the puck every night. He’s a trigger man, not someone who can create his own scoring chances. I don’t know how successful he would be without a great play-making center. If we were keeping Spezza, Neal would be a great addition to his wing.

      • Tooks

        Neal has a modified NTC, looks like it only kicks in 15-16 tho, so now is the time to get him!

  • Jakester

    This would be a dream trade Spezza,Cowen, and Wiorcioch plus a pick or prospect for Hedman and Connelly.

    Tampa has a pop gun offence and they need bodies on D. We get our top two D-man(friend of EK65)and a potential TUrris type steal in Connelly.

    You sign Hemsky, give him 5 mill

    Mac-TUrris-Stone
    Ryan-Zibby-Hemsky
    Hoffman-DaCosta-Connelly
    Smith-Pageau-Lazar

    Hedman-Karlsson
    Methot-Ceci
    Claessen-Gryba
    Phillips

    Would be a real good D.

    • Rafi Bomb

      Massive overpayment by the Sens in this trade.

      Claessen isn’t NHL ready and your forward core is way too soft.

      • Tooks

        No overpayment here, Hedman alone is worth more than those 3, add in a blue chip prospect like Connolly and we would have to up the ante.

        • Jakester

          I agree Tookie, Sens would have to add, I’d even give the 2015 first on top of all that to get Hedman!

      • SENSible Voice

        Overpayment? Depends on which side of the table you sit. If I’m TBL, I don’t see how that trade makes my team better. Tampa is not in a “win now” window so Spezza is not really an ideal acquisition for them. What they lose would outweigh what they gain.

    • the Grammar Police

      W-I-E-R-C-I-O-C-H

      • Tooks

        *golf clap*

      • Jakester

        Whatever, I just traded him lol

    • FistsofNeil25

      It would probably take more than Spezza, Cowen and Wiercioch to get Hedman alone. Seriously the guy is untouchable. He’s emerging as one of the elite defenseman in the game. I would trade those three for just Hedman alone. Hell I would even add a couple more pieces if need be.

      • Jakester

        Would add our 2015 first to the mix

      • Jakester

        I agree, Sens would be all set!

    • peetypuck

      I don’t think we should trade with Yzerman any more. He’d probably try to screw us over again.

      • SENSible Voice

        Murray screwed himself. While most were fine with trading Bishop at the time, only a few of us felt trading Anderson instead made more sense. If we can get Hedman, you do it if you can live with the pricetag.

    • Tooks

      No way Yzerman gives up his franchise D man…but yeah, nice to dream!

      • Jakester

        I would add our 2015 first to make that dream come true! Maybe?

    • sprucesens

      I’d sooner do that package to phx er.. Arizona for OEL. hmm. Does the nhl still own Arizona? I don’t even remember if they ever actually sold properly.

  • jtf927

    while it might create some instability in goal, i think a trade would be interesting. sutter and fleury would be the most attractive options from the pens roster.

    • Sandy

      No to Fleury…

      • jtf927

        while i do think fleury would benefit from a change of scenery, i don’t think changing our goaltending situation should be our top priority. we should really be focusing on getting another dman. i am in favor if trying to acquire sutter. he’s exactly the type of two way forward we need.

        • runningbear1974

          I don’t agree… We went young defense last year… They need experience… What they need is dependable forwards to create an environment that they can learn… And after a year of this stable environment, then we’ll know what we have… Our defense was bad, but so were the forwards (yet they were veterans), and the goalies were not dependable…
          We don’t know what we have yet with our defense because of all the other elements…
          Of course, if you can get a top 2 defense, grab him, those guys are impossible to get…

      • Deadly

        Double no to Fleury…more valuable as an opponent.

  • Sandy

    So Spezza is most likely gone along with Hemsky & Michalek.. The Sens may get a 2nd line player back in the Spezza trade.. that leaves them short two top 6 forwards.
    If they trade Anderson and go with Lehner that’s risky right now..
    I don’t know where all of the players will come from to fill the roster to get it to the Cap floor. Filling roles with Bingo players does not add sufficient salaries to do that.. and it’s not like UFAs are knocking down the door to play in Ottawa.
    IF they do trade Anderson.. one cheap fill-in to go with Lehner is Jonas Gustavsson who may be done in Detroit in favour of Peter Mrazek — and he is a Swede.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Yeah exactly. Trading Andy and naming Lehner the starter just creates one more question mark for this team next year.

      Is Lehner ready to be a #1 goalie?

      Is Turris ready to be a #1 center?

      Is Zibanejad ready to be a #2 center?

      Are Stone, Hoffman, Da Costa and Pageau ready to show they can be full time NHLers?

      Is Lazar ready for the show?

      Will one or two of Cowen, Ceci, or Wiercioch step up and be a top four defenseman for this team?

      Way too many question marks already.

      • Jakester

        Still wondering about TUrris? Come on! He’s been our number one center for 2 years. Give him the PP play and favourable zone starts he deserves and just watch the points he’ll put up!

      • sprucesens

        ain’t it grand to be a sens fan!? lol. I think we’ll sign a top-ish UFA. Someone below vanek, but above 90% of the other names. Top ufa’s come here sometimes. But there are only so many in a given year. We signed gonchar a few years back when he was the top UFA. We might be able to get a guy like moulson, cammalleri, or Vrbata if they don’t have a specific destination in mind, and even if they do, the destination might not have them in mind. We will have to throw money out there to get above the cap, if we aren’t spending on hemsky and michalek. So if they aren’t accepting the contracts now, and wind up elsewhere, then we basically have to sign some of the UFA’s. Which means we can afford a 6 mill contract or 2, depending on return for spezza. And ESPECIALLY if we trade Anderson, that free’s up likely another 2 mill, knowing the way our deals go…

  • Sandy

    This is how rumours start. Not going to put in the name that the source came from. Found it on facebook. So take it for what it is worth – which isn’t a lot. There was some back and forth between people — I just copied the ones from this one person.

    … Just to let everyone know, Bobby has already signed an extension

    … You’re right “signed” was the wrong word… but he will be staying with us. Not sure about the term.

    … Erik is dating my insurance brokers daughter and my family is close friends with our broker. So technically Karlsson is the source… indirectly.

    • runningbear1974

      Sweet, rumour or not, that makes me feel good… If Ryan believes in the Senators, then I think the rest of us should too…

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Hmmmm interesting, I was told something along the same lines this morning at work.

      • Sandy

        Well IF it is true.. other NHL players will see that Bobby Ryan thinks Ottawa is a good place to play and may look to the Sens to sign with.
        It certainly would help turn around the team’s reputation..

        • TookieIs100PercentRight

          Bobby’s a little damaged goods though, from the outside the rink stuff is he not? HE may basically have latched onto the Senators since they were nice to him. Let’s use that to our advantage.
          TOOKS100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Sandy

            Damaged good from outside the rink? In what way.
            He had a terrible childhood. That’s all I heard about him and that’s not stopped him from being what a lot of people say is a nice humble guy.
            Jeff Carter has a bad rep from outside hockey.. so does Patrick Kane.. But I would take either of those 2 on the Sens because they are winners..

          • Harv

            “Damaged Goods”? Read his history. He has achieved what he achieved even though he had a difficult childhood. I just hope rumours of his signing are true.

          • Deadly

            What a pathetic post from someone who has no real knowledge of a person. Just a random potshot from a fan..of some team.Not sure which team.

          • Hax

            Wow you found a way to sink below your usual comments.

            Damaged goods because some stuff other people did? “Let’s use that”?

            Wow, dude, wow.

        • Jakester

          If a guy gets the money he wants ,he stays, he liked playing with TUrris and Mac. Let’s stop thinking just because Alfie left and that Spezza doesn’t play the style we want(the whole league knows how he plays)that Ottawa is now an unsavoury place to play. Players have always been very well treated by the team and fans.

          • runningbear1974

            Exactly, the fans made Alfie a GOD… We would have backed him up for anything… That was the fans who did that…

        • runningbear1974

          I don’t think the Senators have a bad reputation, besides being a soft team…

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      Is this the same girl Erik is dating that was on Twitter? She didn’t come off as the brightest bulb in the lamppost at the time.
      Good if Ryan signs though but he’d better not have a NTC.

      • Hax

        There’s literally no chance in the world he won’t have a NTC. Show me a recent contract of a comparable player that didn’t include some sort of NTC.

    • Mitchell

      Erik Karlsson got married when he won the Norris trophy. And a girl on the side? Whatttt

  • FBP

    Thanks for the tweet Chirp. Good news?

    Everyone double down on Trimel holdings! Any post-menopausal board ladies please sign up for Tefina testing and report back on the frequency and duration of your orgasms.

    • SensChirp

      It’s hard to tell if it’s good news or not. Seems like they are still
      waiting for word from the FDA? Stockholders don’t seem too excited

      http://www.stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.trl/trimel-pharmaceuticals-corporation/1

      • FBP

        It’s true. Better than the last “we’re running out of money” release though.

        One of the articles also references that Trimel spent two third of it’s cash last year? Crazy.

      • Sandy

        Today is the day that the FDA is making a decision on Trimel’s CompleoTRT.
        Anything to get his stock price up so Sens cash can be spent on the Sens and not his other businesses.

      • Sandy

        With the luck the Sens have it will probably be delayed again. meaning FDA approval.

      • Jakester

        Maybe stockholders aren’t excited but there could be some women getting a little excited soon. I might go buy some trimel Stocks, duracell and eveready stocks(vibrator sales will go through the roof).

        • peetypuck

          They’re also coming out with a treatment for male hypogonadism. That could mean more babies being born. Better buy some Snuggies shares too.

          • Jakester

            Pampers and Snuggies thanx for the stock tip Peety!

          • peetypuck

            No problem. lol

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      If this goes legit Melnyk really has no busiess holding back funds anymore. Let’s sign and keep our talent and invest wisely in trades/free agents!
      TOOKS100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Jakester

      Haha, give some to Tookie, report back Tookie!

  • Richard Gough

    This is something that Murray should look at Markstrome needs a freash start and Vancouver isn’t the place for him in my mind

    Anderson

    For

    Markstrome
    Vancouver 2nd

    Or
    Anderson

    For

    Vancouver 1st 2015

  • esk

    for the love of god july 1st already

  • Jer6

    I suggest doing any moves necessary to cure our little teams budget in order to win the cup and finally be known as the Senators, and not “its just the sens..” Like obviously as a life long sens fan, its difficult to watch some of our best all time leading players, captains and etc loosing interest in us. Whatever damage there is to be done, bring it on, it’ll just be another step in bulking up our franchise.

  • ZBADFORMAYOR

    I wonder if Murray would ever entertain re signing Ray Emery. He’s obviously a changed man since his days in Ottawa and still a very good goaltender. If we ever traded Anderson, Ray Emery could easily fit the bill behind Lehner. I’d support it. There are still a ton of Emery fans in Ottawa.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Would love this!

    • Harv

      Interesting. Emery was my first choice when I went over the available goalies. He has paid his dues and may enjoy coming back to Ottawa to make amends. His pay check would not break the bank and he would be a good mentor for Lehner. I don’t see Anderson as the Sens goalie beyond next year so if they get a good offer I think he should go. Give the net to Lehner with Emery as a backup and see what happens.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Emery would only come back to Ottawa if we were the only team offering
      him a contract. We burnt that bridge a long time ago and he was fairly
      vocal when we let Alfie go last summer. He said he thinks Ottawa should
      have taken better care of Alfie. Now that we’re about to trade Spezza
      (Emery’s best friend from his Ottawa days) there’s next to no chance he
      would consider coming back here.

  • luckan20

    I have no trust in Lehner. BM can’t swing a deal as discussed above. Most likely lock Lehner for 2 years for $3.5-$3.8. Offer Andy 2 more years at similar cap hit as of now. Think about moving Andy only after seeing Lehner’s game. Can’t afford to see 5 or more goals per night.

  • SENSible Voice

    Wonder if PITT would be open to a blockbuster trade to shake things up without closing their “win now” window?

    My Sens patriots may question my sanity but here is what I would love to see happen…

    Ottawa gets:
    - Malkin / Fleury / Letang

    Pittsburg gets:
    - Spezza / Anderson / Karlsson

    Not sure if the goalies need to be part of this deal but it may help persuade PIT to pull the trigger as it improves their goaltending ever so slightly but sheds valuable cap space. This deal would free up over 5.5M from their roster.

    From an Ottawa point of view, we lose a little on the back-end but gain alot up front. Fleury would probably be dealt or play the year and see what kind of effect it has on Lehner. How could you not drool at the prospect of having a top 6 like this:

    Malkin – Zibby – Ryan
    Mac – Turris – Stone

    You either love this deal or you hate me for suggesting it… lol

    • Hax

      Well, I’d take Malkin over Spezza for sure. Lehner over Anderson (since Fleury would be backup) isn’t horrible. But giving up Karlsson. Dunno man – not sure I’d include Karlsson in any deal.

      • SENSible Voice

        Problem is…. no way you get arguably the 2nd best player in the world without giving something substantial. No way we get Malkin without including Karlsson. I think Letang is Karlsson Lite so a little drop in production (no defensive skills from either) but Malkin would more than make up for it.

        • Jakester

          In any hockey pool, I draft Karlsson first cuz he should out score the other D-men by 30 points. He’s a huge difference maker. I thought you were a sensible voice, have faith karlsson is what every team wants.

          • Zelle

            Agreed. The only reason Karlsson doesn’t get more love is because he’s on the Senators. If he were in a large market team or Cup contending team he would be on all of the front pages.

        • Hax

          I think we need Karlsson more than we need Malkin.

      • Sandy

        Go the cheaper way and get Jonas Gustaffsson who made 1.5M in Detroit last season and played pretty well…
        Fleury makes 5.75 next season. No way the Sens go after that…

        • Hax

          Agreed that Fleury is way too expensive to be a back and way to horrible to be anything else. I was assuming that Pitt wedges Fleury (and his contract) in this deal.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      No… I can’t see any situation where we move Karlsson

    • Millennium

      Letang’s not worth his contract, Fleury is a perennial question mark, and our D corp can’t handle losing EK.

    • Jakester

      U never trade Karlsson, we lose that trade. And Fleury can’t stop a beachball. Lol

      • SENSible Voice

        How do you lose a trade that lands you one of the best all around player in the world? Yes you lose the best offensive D in the world but Letang can fill part of that void. Fleury is a non-factor.

        • runningbear1974

          Malkin is not one of the best all around players… He’s flashy offensively but not great defensively… I would prefer Bergeron, or Jeff Carter… Those are actual improvements to our situation… It’s time to move away from a #1 center and have a more well rounded team guy..

          • Jakester

            Here here!

          • jimmyjohnson

            The genius of online hockey talk.

        • Deadly

          Pittsburg is suffering under his contract.The high contract would really screw up the balanced payroll that we need.

          • Tooks

            Yes, that is the ONLY reason we dont do that trade.

        • Jakester

          Karlsson, watch him this year his leg should be back to 100 percent. You don’t trade a modern day Bobby Orr. I don’t want another lazy ass centerman. Let’s be pesky, lots of hard working skill on this team. Sens will score plenty without sulky MALKIN. Plus, watching Karlsson is what hockey in Ottawa is all about!

          • jimmyjohnson

            Malkin is the single most talented player in the league.

          • Tooks

            Hard working, yes…Skill no. How quick you forget, Malkin won a Cup and was named playoff MVP…When Crosby was out, he stepped it up.

        • Tooks

          Agreed, Letang can fill the offensive D role while still playing edgy D.

      • jimmyjohnson

        um, no. we get Malkin, we win that trade. It’s still ridiculous and terribly problematic, but we win by getting the best player in the deal.

    • Deadly

      Any trade that gets us Fleury is Non-sensible.

      • SENSible Voice

        Like I mentioned… he would likely be dealt quickly or battle things out with Lehner… a little competition never hurts.

    • luckan20

      May be trade Spezza, Cowen and our top pick in 2015 for Malkin and Niskannen; Niskannen should be sign for 3 years at $4M cap hit

      • SENSible Voice

        I’m afraid that wouldn’t be anywhere near enough to get us Malkin unless we were so bad that our 2015 pick would be a top 3.

      • jimmyjohnson

        literally the only way pit downgrades from Malkin to Spezza is to get Karlsson.

    • esk

      wtf trade karlsson?

    • runningbear1974

      i don’t agree that you are a sensible voice… This doesn’t solve anything…

    • Sandy

      The most points Letang has ever had was 50. His tops in goals is 11.
      Karlsson’s tops in points is 78. His tops in goals is 20.
      Letang isn’t the best defensively either. Karlsson had a bad year defensively.
      I would take Karlsson’s points — he had 74 this season on a bad team.. Letang couldn’t come close to that playing on a much better team…

      • Tooks

        To be fair to Letang, he was injured, he was on a PPG pace. Those 50 pts you mention were in 40 something games so he was better than Karlsson in that regard.

        He plays with an edge, BUT that gets him in injury trouble. FoN25 nailed it, we dont make that trade on salary alone.

        • FistsofNeil25

          Tookie I don’t know what stats you’re looking at but his career high 50 points was in 2010-2011 when he played a full 82 games. He only had 22 points in 37 games this year.

          It may sound strange but most Pittsburgh fans I know (surprisingly a lot) don’t like Letang and want his ass traded. They think his contract was a huge mistake.

    • Zelle

      When Karlsson is on your trading block it’s a non starter. No one we get in return could match what he brings to the team.

    • FistsofNeil25

      I wouldn’t touch Letang or Fleury. Fleury is a sieve and can’t stay healthy. Malkin is awesome and all but his massive salary would be crippling for our budget team

      Malkin, Letang and Fleury combine for a total of $22 500 000 next season. Spezza, Karlsson and Andy only come in at a total of $14 000 000. Ottawa doesn’t do that trade.

    • sprucesens

      why not keep karlsson forever, trade spezza for something of value elsewhere, and let fleury continue to ruin the chances of pittsburgh winning anything ever again?

      • SENSible Voice

        Because that does nothing to improve our Top 6 or bring our team to the next level.

    • jimmyjohnson

      You spelled Pittsburgh wrong, you have Malkin on the wing, you called people “patriots”, you propose this deal.

      You are a) new to hockey, b) quite young, c) trolling, d) not a Sens fan, or f) F’d.
      its multiple choice and more than one amswer may apply.

  • Luke McQueen

    Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but I feel like Vancouver might be a good home for Anderson. They are looking to fill a glaring hole in net and are very much in a state of change. Would Anderson and say Weircoch be enough to get Edler OR Garrison?

  • Sandy

    Really sucks that I now have to watch all the remaining playoff games on CBC.. Yuck..

  • Millennium

    Is it just me, or is CBC’s stream totally unwatchable all playoffs? Constant freezing and buffering.

  • luckan20

    If Andy getting moved, we need to plan and trade one of the liability in D too. I will move Cowen. and Andy for Bieska, Marstrom and a mid round pick.

    • Jakester

      No objection here! Make it a second rounder and we have a deal!

    • Pasky

      I’d rather keep Cowen for at least one more year. His value is shit right now so people will be buying low on him. And considering last year he basically only played with 1 hip, and it was the one that he had surgery done on last year.

      I have faith that he’ll improve on last season. Blind faith but still faith.

  • Sandy

    So is this game going to be last goal wins? Chicago is playing better..

  • Deadly

    In play by play,do they usually say the players names.

  • Zelle

    Nice to see some Senators are working hard during the off season. JPG just tweeted he did yoga, went for a run, did some stairs, then a sprint, played some baseball and volley ball. I feel really lazy right now.

    • Deadly

      Sitting here ,eating peanuts flipping between the Jays and Hawks. Guilty as charged.

      • Jakester

        Haha, Pageau is going to be ready, lots to prove this year. Won’t tell you guys what I just did.

    • peetypuck

      I once saw how Daniele Briere worked out during his summers. He had these huge tires almost as high as himself that he lifted from one side and then pushed it over until it fell on it’s other side. Then he did reps over and over.

      • Zelle

        That’s insane. Conacher just posted a picture of himself working out on this skating machine? Basically it’s like a treadmill but you skate instead of run. His legs are huge for such a little guy!

        • peetypuck

          That sounds like a great machine. You get to practice your skating while you get your aerobics done.

  • Aaron 2.0

    I’d be pretty surprised to see Anderson leave right now. The reality is that goaltenders never seem to net all that much through trade. Anderson’s contract is also very reasonably. Lehner is still a developing player. And, our current defense, on paper today, has more holes than Swiss cheese. I wouldn’t really get this move. At least not this year. Maybe at the deadline, if he won’t be resigned, to make sure we don’t lose a commodity for nothing. But, there doesn’t seem to be anything pressing the issue now.

    • peetypuck

      Maybe Sens management thinks that he needs to play more than 30-35 games a year now. Anderson won’t be happy if Lehner starts 40 games.

      • Aaron 2.0

        I’d like to see Lehner start more too. From a team standpoint, even if they roughly split the games this year, Anderson’s contract isn’t really a problem. From, the player standpoint, yeah, I could see Anderson not being happy about possibly losing more games. But, it’s not like he has any term left on his contract. Given the circumstances, I don’t really see why management would care. Unless, he flat out asked for a trade. That’d surprise me too though. If he had years remaining, and was being relegated to back-up status, I could see a bigger issue. But, at this point, we don’t really know how things will play out. Lehner could struggle. Anderson could shine. And, it’s possible that Anderson even starts more games. Doubt it, but possible.

        • Tooks

          Well if PMac is still around you can bet your ass Anderson will see the bulk of the playing time. Phillips sees PP time and more nonsense…

      • Jakester

        Lehner needs 60 games this year, he’s a horse and needs to play. Like when he carried the ball during the Calder Cup win!

        • Aaron 2.0

          I’ve never followed AHL hockey too much. But, didn’t Lehner struggle most of the season, then go lights out in the playoffs when he got his chance? I believe in Lehner. But, consistency for a young up-and-coming guy isn’t easy. Especially behind our defense!

          • Jakester

            I think that last year was bad for his development. He needs to play more. Have to see what he’s made of.

          • peetypuck

            He’s going to be 23 in July. He should be ready to take on more responsibility.

          • Aaron 2.0

            Yeah, I don’t know if it was bad for his development but he definitely had lengthy rough patches. It might prove to be a good learning experience for him in the long run.

            I’m not sure if it was the number of games that was the issue, or just how he was deployed. Getting benched after winning streaks. Then, not playing for really long stretches. Then playing back-to-back. It was just weird all year with these decisions. Couldn’t be easy.

          • Sandy

            It was his first pro season for pete’s sake.

        • jimmyjohnson

          given what we’ve seen from him in his career anything more than 50 games is nonsense. I can see the logic in making him the guy, but let’s not pretwnd that he’s proven he’s ready for 60 starts.

  • Floridasensfan

    I hope we keep Anderson even if he walks year end for nothing, one more year of Anderson Lehner if only for stability, it is a contract year for Anderson.
    Huge risk trading Anderson and putting a lot on Lehner even though he wants it.
    I also get the allure of a trade.

    • SENSible Voice

      There are plenty of goalies out there that are available… most would do well at either backing up Lehner or challenging him. I don’t see why we’d keep Anderson around if anything decent is offered in return.

  • do due dew doodoo

    Trading (insert any player’s name here) an Option for Ottawa

    • SensChirp

      I see somebody got their hands on my off season blog plan.

    • Mat

      Actually, some players would be considered untouchable. Philips apparently…

      • Tooks

        Haha good one.

  • do due dew doodoo

    Erik Karlsson signs 3 year contract with Crolina

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=720825

  • ProfessorPower

    mac turris ryan
    stewart zbad stone
    etem-lazar-penner
    smithpelly smith neil

    methot karlsson
    cowen bieksa
    philips ceci

    • Tooks

      Dear lord man, Stewart AND Penner? What are you trying to make us the slowest team in the League?!?! No…no…no….

      First things first, Spezza is traded to STL for Berglund, Jaskin & 2014 1st rounder.
      Secondly, Anderson, Cowen and the 2014 1st rounder to CGY for Giordano or Smid + prospect Emile Poirier.

      Hoffman Turris Ryan
      CMac Berglund Stone
      Jaskin Zbad Lazar
      Greening Smith Neil
      Condra

      Giordano/Smid Karlsson
      Methot Ceci
      Phillips PW46
      Boro

      Lehner
      Dubnyk/Greiss

      • FistsofNeil25

        What are you doing splitting up Turris and MacArthur. They have the best chemistry we’ve seen from any Sens forwards since Spezza and Heatley (obviously not as dominant). Also don’t think that proposal is going to get you Giordano. Burkie said him and Monahan are his only untouchables. Is Berglund better offensively than Zibanejad at this point? ZBad had a 0.48 PPG pace this year while Bergy was at 0.41.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Yeah as Tooks said, Penner and Stewart?! You crazy? Also think there’s little chance we get both Etem and Smith-Pelly for Spezza. Maybe one, but not both.

  • jimmyjohnson

    In related news (completely unrelated) make sure to get out and vote for Subban for the EA sports cover! Vote constantly and spread the word!
    See http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/508711 for details.

    • Jakester

      How bout u tell Subban to go F himself! Can you relate to that?

      • jimmyjohnson

        That’s kind of the point.

    • Hax

      Isn’t the cover supposed to be a curse? I could get behind that actually.

    • Zelle

      I only vote for EK.

    • Sandy

      Why would I want to vote for Subban?

  • SensChirp
  • spoons

    I would be interested in a Anderson for Scrivens + asset. Obviously depends on what that asset is, but Scrivens and Lehner is solid going forward and Oilers get a proven #1 goalie that can play a lot of games

  • ChampIsHere

    Should have dumped Phillips for a 2nd rounder to anyone who wanted him