Trade Deadline Fast Approaching

SensChirp March 4, 2014 224
Trade Deadline Fast Approaching

A little over 24 hours until the NHL’s trade deadline.  Plenty of rumours surrounding the Senators right now. A quick run through the rumour mill below…

-Still think Chris Stewart is the primary target for the Senators but that doesn’t necessarily mean something gets done.  When Tim Murray acquired Stewart from St. Louis it was certainly with the intention of flipping him to Ottawa.  But now that Timmy has Stewart, I suspect he’s trying to get a little more out of Bryan than originally discussed.  Uncle Bryan isn’t taking the bait.  Shane Prince was held out of the line up in Bingamton recently and seems like a candidate to be involved in those discussions.  You can be certain the Murrays will talk about Stewart again before tomorrow’s deadline.

-PA Parenteau is another option that remains in play for Ottawa.  I believe the Senators were close to acquiring him before the deadline but some injuries up front forced the Avs into a situation where they had to hold on to him.  Now Parenteau isn’t exactly the “power forward” Murray has been talking about but the Sens have certainly had interest in him in the past.

-The Chris Phillips situation is coming down to the wire.  The two sides have exchanged deals and both seem optimistic there is time to get something done.  The Senators would prefer to sign Phillips to a one year extension while Phillips is hoping for two.  Murray addressed the situation yesterday and suggested that just because he can’t sign Phillips before the deadline, does not necessarily mean he’ll deal him.  Suggestions that the return would be a top prospect and a pick seem a little ambitious.  Boston, Colorado and Detroit have all been mentioned as teams that might have interest.

-The Senators also have a little over 24 hours to make a decision on Milan Michalek.  I don’t think there’s a ton of interest but there have been a couple teams at least kicking tires.  Have mentioned it a few times but Phoenix is definitely an option.  Again, Murray really doesn’t seem interested in just trading away roster players for draft picks.  His comment yesterday emphasized that fact. ““My role is, in all of this, at this time of year is to show the players and the group that if they are in the race, we’re going to try to help them stay in the race,”

-Spezza rumours- It would not be trade deadline day without some Spezza rumours.  Murray was quick to deny the speculation yesterday but I would not be at all surprised if Spezza’s name did come up in trade discussions at some point. Although a comment from Spezza’s agent suggests this has not gone beyond informal discussions.  The Senators will have to seriously explore trade options this summer and probably would like to get a sense of what the market is like right now.  Mentioned this on Twitter yesterday but I really can’t see teams lining up for Spezza right now.  The list of potential suitors would certainly be longer in the off season.

 

  • senate19

    Nice job Chirp. Nice job.

    • SensChirp

      Ha. Thanks!

      It’s the silly season for rumours though, let me tell ya.

  • Tyler Oakman

    Great job Chirp, I’ll keep it tuned on here because i know you’ll post updates as you get them. Let the twitter refreshing begin!

  • Dirk-Diggler

    Side note… I got cheap last minute tickets to Bill Burr tonight at the NAC! Awesome comedian!

  • my2sens

    Where’s the table dammit!!

    How is the new place?!?

    I hope we can get some fresh blood flowing into the Sens by tomorrow afternoon. 9MM to Phoenix would be nice if not just to make some room for young players to come up… and will give him a chance to play with his brother.

    Spezza, I don’t think will go anywhere, return would have to be fantastic!

    With Stewart… well… next family get together should be interesting!

    • senate19

      I have to agree with the idea of moving MM.. I get the feeling most people would agree. If Phoenix wants him, make it happen. It’s the nice thing to do, and realistically, he’s not adding anything more than Stone could offer at this point.

      • my2sens

        thepez above would disagree. He is decent in playoffs, but I believe getting picks as a return is better than him walking for nothing. And Stone can fill his shoes and then some.

  • thepez

    Put me down on the side that the Sens should not trade Michalek. First if all they are going to get is a late round pick then not worth it. Second, if they make the playoffs I believe his experience is very valuable. Third even if the Sens don’t sign him by July 1st and they lose him, they get the cap space to sign someone else, which is like making a trade.

    • Jacques

      He should get you a second round pick at least! Or worst a third!

      • Tooks

        No Knees? No way, he’s a late 5th or 6th round pick at best.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    Here is my question, why does everyone think our UFA’s and other guys are worth nothing and guys on crappy teams that aren’t performing well are worth a kings ransom?

    • Jacques

      I don’t understand that thinking either!

    • Tooks

      Because if yuo take the guys off the crappy teams and put them on a decent team, they will produce like they should.

      Our guys are on a decent team (on paper) and are not producing.

      • Dirk-Diggler

        This makes no sense.. If you want to think that way, technically Ottawa is not producing either… So if you think Ottawa had 15 points less in the standings that these guys would be worth more?

  • FistsofNeil25

    I actually like the stance that Murray is taking. I know the playoffs are a long shot but the Sens are still in the race. It would send the wrong message to the team to be aggressive sellers, but at the same time we aren’t close enough to be aggressive sellers.

    If we’re being realistic, it isn’t likely that any teams are going to be willing to give up quality assets for rentals like Phillips and Michalek. Say all we can get for Michalek at this point is a 4th round pick and an average AHLer, is it worth it to trade him? Same goes for Phillips. If he can get close to the price he’s asking for Phillips then of course he has to deal him.

    It’s clear that Murray isn’t willing to pay the high price for rentals and that’s what most of us hoped for.Guys like Stewart and Parenteau aren’t rentals as they have term remaining on their contracts beyond this season. Both would be upgrades in our top six.

    I really do have enough faith in Murray to believe that whatever he does or doesn’t go in the next day or two is in the best interest of the team.

    • Tooks

      We need to sell, yes, technically we are in the race, 20% to make it. Thats not reall “in” the race but outside looking in really. Do you really think we will pull off 16-4 record…

      Sell the deadwood (Michalek, Cowen, Phillips, Anderson, Greening, Conacher, Condra) make room for Hoffman, Lazar, Claesson, Boro.

      Realistically, only a few of our players will give us a nice return and since we are still in a rebuild (most likely to be 5 years)

      These players would bring us some nice pieces back:
      Anderson: Probably a first rounder or top 4 D or top 6 FW.
      Cowen: Probably a top 9 FW or a top 6 D + some picks.

      Roll with Lehner and Cowen can easily be replaced by Claesson or Boro.

      • FistsofNeil25

        If this is still a rebuild for another two years like you said, then they can afford to give Cowen more time to develop and earn his place.

        Murray isn’t going to sell off half the team. You and hope and pray that he does Tookie but he likely won’t trade away more than 1 or 2 guys from the current roster if any.

        There’s also no rush to get Lazar into the NHL. Let the kid develop properly. He needs to work his way up just like everyone else.

        Lehner has also barely done anything to prove that he’s an NHL starter. Trade away half the team and make him the starter is a good way to ruin his confidence and development.

        Wanting Murray to trade half the team and what he actually will end up doing are going to be drastically different things.

        • Tooks

          I dont know that the rebuild is 5 years, Murray said 3 but it looks like closer to 4-5, thats just my guess.

          Cowen is damaged goods, his mobility aint gonna get any better, neither is his skating. That ship has sailed. We need to bring in some better D’s that can skate and move and not look like the tin man from wizard of Oz…

          Moving those players makes our team better and we didnt even harm the “rebuild”.

  • Jacques

    Come on Bryan, Shake it all up! Sell and Buy at the same time!

  • senate19

    Let’s do an “is gds real or fake” poll. Up for real down for fake. That will be interesting.

  • Codo37

    Hi! So this is my first post (but I read this Blog for a couple of years, great Site!), and sorry for my bad english, im a german (and i think germanys biggest sens fan, missed no game on TV the past 5 seasons).

    My thoughts about Trade Deadline:

    After the game in Vancouver and the first time Cowen was a healthy scratch we saw three good defense pairings, Methot was back where he belongs with EK65, Phillips played well with Ceci (but for the right return i would trade him, but he was a loyal soldier for us a long time and als a 5/6 i can life with him another season). Wier and Gryba played very good, so the question is: Must we trade for a D? I think no and dont wanna trade cowen cause i saw in the first season what he can do.

    On offense I hope we go after stewart, he is the type of player that spezza needs. Moulson i think is too expensive and is a UFA too. Its a too risky move…
    PA Parenteau is too soft and dosent fit with what we need, Hemsky too.

    If we try to get Stewart i dont want to trade SDC (he played great the last 3 Games with the Sens), Stone, Puempel and Wier. They are pieces for us to move forward.

    I hope we can rid of Michalek and Greening, to make room for Stone and SDC too.

    My Lineup:

    16-7-6
    68-19-Stewart
    89-93-61
    15-24-25

    3-65
    4-5
    46-62

    Greets from Germany!
    GO SENS GO!!!

    • SensChirp

      Awesome! Welcome aboard.

    • Andrews theory

      Nothing wrong with your English at all!

      Great post..

      I think if we get a reasonable return for Phillips we have to move him otherwise I’ve been a fan of playing PW over Cowen all season…

      Cowen needs to develop a hunger in his belly and compete. Far to often he’s half in half out

    • RUSH RLZ

      Yes welcome aboard! I know it has been a weird season for Methot but in my opinion he should be a part of the CORE going forward. He is a strong partner for both EK65 and Gryba too. Should be an exciting 28 hours… lots of options for the Sens, it could be some insane moves on our part or near nothing at all… it’s a weird deadline for us.

      • Codo37

        I think if we lose tonight MM and CP4 are gone, if we win things will change …

    • Miguel

      great post for a rookie German :-)

      agreed with many points especially moving MM9 Phillips and Greening

      • Codo37

        You really think Germans dont know hockey cause the cant play it ;-)

        • Miguel

          well I know you produce great atheletes, and especially great soccer players, but you’ve certainly proven you know your Sens too,
          Welcome fellow Sens fan!

          • Codo37

            I know my sens, thats right and they rob my sleep (games are at 1.00 or 1.30 European Time) and gave me a lot grey hairs :-) but I watch them again in good or bad times. Last season was very special with that many injured players and than we make the playoffs and kicked the Canadians butts haha. I hope we can make the playoffs this year too, and like chirp said, if you make it everything can happen!

    • CUP 2014-15

      Good to have you with us Codo37

  • spicy

    it would be nice if Murray can bring stewart and regarding 9MM it would be nice
    he havent done anything to this point and probably wont do going forward
    so getting something in return for him now will be good thing even if what we getting in return is not much it could be used for trade and the salary could be used in like getting moulson with new contract

  • OverMind

    im not convinced moving guys like Phillips and Michalek for picks doesn’t help the team get to the playoffs. particularly with Phillips, and really just about any of the top forwards in Bingo could stroll right in and be equivalent to what Michalek is bringing right now.

    to me its time for the old guard to go, the only one of the 4 pillars worth anything was Alfie anyway…

  • Miguel

    Realistcally are we all convinced we make the playoffs?
    And even if we happen to squeak in, honestly how will we fair against the likes of the Pens or the Bruins? Maybe 5 games?
    So, from my perspective it really is time to move out some bodies, so that we give the likes of Stone SDC Hoffman, a regular shift in the NHL to see what we have.
    As I mentioned for all we know Stone may in fact turn out to be a better option than Steward. Or Hoffman may actually be better than Parenteau.
    Or perhaps, Boro or Claesson turn out to be better than Phillips.
    What we in turn get back, is only a bonus, and our own prospects in fact are better than anyone we may have traded for.
    If we do this I say we make the playoffs, and lose in 6 games instead of 5 :-)

    • SensChirp

      Every year I hear this argument but that’s just not how professional hockey teams are run. Your goal is to get to the playoffs and once you’re there, you believe you have a chance.

      • SensChirp

        “My role is, in all of this, at this time of year is to show the players
        and the group that if they are in the race, we’re going to try to help
        them stay in the race,”

        • senate19

          That’s a great quote from BM and I’m glad he said it. Really shows his character.

          • Jacques

            He says that every year though!

          • SensChirp

            Because that’s how he approaches his job every year.

          • Jacques

            I know but this year I get a feeling that they know that the East is up for grabs, plus he needs to make so room on the big club!

        • Tooks

          That doesnt mean he wont trade players to bring in some better ones…

          Infact, trading Cowen, CP4, CG, MM9 and getting some picks and players in return is improving our team and helping them stay in the race.

          And also, what did you expect him to say, “Well ya know, were at about 20%, gonna sell the deadwood and make some room”?!?!

      • Miguel

        agreed Chirp, but if I may be more to the point, I am of the opinion, that if we move MM9 and Phillips, we may in fact be improving the teams chances, by playing some of our studs that are killing it in Bingo
        Hoffman > MM9
        PW46 > CP4 and bring up Boro as the 7th D
        SDC > Greening or Conacher,
        I see this as actually imporving our team and our chance, and at the same time pick up a few draft picks – its all a win/ win
        IMO only of course

        • Dirk-Diggler

          AND Eugene saves money! To hopefully invest later back into the team

        • SensChirp

          As Murray suggested in the quote, his commitment is to “this group”.

          • Miguel

            what about his commitment to the fans who help pay “this group” and improving the Sens as team?
            Sorry, but I care more about the crest on the front of the jersey than the name on the back.

        • Jacques

          I agree we have some players in a Bingo better than the ones with the big team!

        • Don Ciccio

          I agree with you Miguel…….Guys like Stone, Hoffman, Pageau, Boro, and Claesson have been in the minors tearing it up all year but we keep playing players just because they are veterans but not actually helping the team. It makes more sense to trade Phillips and Michalek and get assets for them and if they really want to come back you could always re-sign them as UFA’s in the offseason at a reduced price and role.

          • Miguel

            makes way too much sense… lets hope logic prevails

      • Tooks

        Yes I agree SC but you have to take into account what we need to do to even have a chance of making it. something like 16-4, thats elite type winning record.

        Not saying its impossible, that would be 0%, we have a 20% chance of making it. We have some pieces that could bring back some good young talent or pieces of the puzzle we need to take the next step.

        Its that time of the year where if your not likely to make the playoffs, you sell.

    • Jacques

      Depends who we pick up today and tomorrow. You pick up 3 good pieces and you make the dance and the SENS can beat anyone! I think the Sens might move Cowen if they can pick up an Erhoff(example). Cowen a big liability for the Sens in their playoff push!

    • Andrews theory

      That loss against Detroit really hurt our chances..

      With that said, I don’t think this team is as far off as some people suggest.
      We need another legit top 4 defenseman, I’d like to see Murray figure out a way to bring in Yandle. He does that, we are playoff bound and I can assure you, no one will want to draw us in the first round.

    • my2sens

      Although I agree with most of what you’re saying… once we are in the playoffs anything can happen.

      We are classless and led by a Walrus! That’s winning!

    • Tooks

      Yeah at 20%, I say we need to more sellers than buyers. Obviously MM9, Greening, Condra and those scrubs aint gonna get you much in return, nothing to be excited about anyways.

      We would need to seriously think about moving players that could bring back some nice pieces.

      Spezza IF we can, if not, no probs on keeping him here, he’s playing with scrubs and has 46 in 56, that is impressive.

      Anderson, yep, time to move on from Andy, he’s got 1 more year left, time to explore the possibility of trading him for pieces that will fit in our rebuild. Top 4D or top 6FW.
      Cowen, not too sure any team would take him atm but EDM are pretty stupid and they are desperate for some D.

      Those 3 guys could bring back some nice pieces for us to build around and they wouldnt be sorely missed as we have the equivalent or better waiting in the wings.

    • spicy

      i believe in sens chances to make the playoffs this year it is not easy tho
      looking at this 4 game road trip and followed by Nashville and Montreal
      the sens have the talent to win all these games
      and we are still playing against teams we are fighting for wild card spot
      and looking at detroit and leafs games a head of them make me more positives

  • Tim

    St. Louis still owes for taking Pat Cannone. Would like to see another body here if it sounds like a bunch of B-Sens are getting moved. Floundering lately down here.

  • boom

    On a related note – trade talks between Ottawa and Winnipeg have broken down.

    Ottawa, apparently, has decided that Kane’s not able…

    • senate19

      boo

    • Codo37

      I gave them MM CP and CG for Big Buff haha

    • Finn 8

      Thank You best news of day so far

      • Andrews theory

        i think you missed the joke

        • boom

          Well, at least one person got it…

    • Tooks

      Winnipeg probably asking for Ryan in return. Orange for an orange.

  • SensFanInMTL

    …..

    • Tooks

      Everyone were saying the same thing for Noesen & Silfverberg. Listen, IF we can get a young proven 30+ goal scorer for Lazar or Puempel, its a no brainer, no matter how good they are in the minors, they havent proven anything in the NHL.

      • SensFanInMTL

        I am extremely biased when it comes to Canadian kids. That’s just me though. Anyhow, we stocked up on prospects since the draft in 2011 and all honesty, we need to build off the young guys. With that said, Moulson rental and a one year Stewart just doesn’t interest me enough for Puempel & Lazar. Anyone else that’s not named them, ship ‘em!

      • Andrews theory

        i think Lazar is as close to untouchable as they come. Scouts recently ranked him the third best prospect outside of the NHL and forsee him as a future NHL captain. You don’t move those guys unless it gets you a cup…

        • SensFanInMTL

          That speaks volumes in terms of someone who hasn’t even played a single game in either AHL or NHL. Can’t wait for the CHL season to end and see Lazar tear it up during the AHL playoffs.

  • Dirtysweetness

    Just to change topics for a second….Whatever happened to David Rundblad? I know he plays within the Phoenix’s organization….has he lived up to his potential?

    • Tooks

      Well if you have no idea whats happened to him, I would say, no. lol

      • Dirtysweetness

        Nice! lol

      • CohMa

        No, he didn’t live up to his potential… Better? Smartass :)

    • CohMa

      no

    • Andrews theory

      He’s coming along just fine… he’s an offensive quarterback that is stuck behind both OEL and Yandle as well as a bunch of other high end defensman. They are stacked on the backend with NHL D as well as D prospects.
      Pheonix just needs to make room for him or trade him for a forward. He’ll likely never be a top two but i think he’ll slot into the top 4 down the road.
      With that said, we’d clearly make that trade again 100 times out of 100 times.

  • Aaron 2.0

    I have to say, Chirp, If those are Murray’s plans for the deadline, I think he’s dreaming in technicolor. Stewart might make the biggest difference. But I’m really unconvinced that he’d be much better than a few internal options in a few years, after a little more development. I think the cost will probably be over-inflated. And, Phillips will really be resigned? These moves sound like a team getting ready for a play-off push …

  • my2sens

    Got all excited, I refreshed the page and said server down… I thought something big happened and we overloaded the server…. but, sadly no….

  • SensChirp

    Completely forgot to include Hemsky in here. Another option Murray has looked at over the course of the season that is expected to be on the move in the next 24 hours.

    • my2sens

      Hemsky is someone I would like to pursue. Edmonton needs some veteran leadership – we could send Phillips over to help that department and perhaps throw in some other assets. Maybe we could package something together and draw in another top 6 player and make a big move?

      Edmonton is looking for another 1st round pick… our rebuild is over… perhaps throw ours in for a bigger fish?

      • Tooks

        Phillips, Cowen, Stone
        for
        Hemsky, Perron/Yakupov

        • s3nsfan

          What a ridiculous trade

          • Tooks

            How so? We can replace CP4 and Cowen easily and Hemsky and Perron are proven point producers in the NHL. Stone is unproven as is Yak, although he did put up 40 goal pace last year.

    • iSens

      Not big on Hemsky. I just worry we give up something for him and then he comes here and is hurt all the time.

  • Keith Corbett

    According to 4th period, sens are showing some interest in Gaborik…

    • Doc

      Good god no.

    • Miguel

      as long as we give up little… and I do mean very little

    • SensFanInMTL

      My God, Murray wasn’t fuckin around when he said he was confident in winning the Cup in the next few years. Guess he wasn’t waiting for next year! And we’re not even in contention yet!

      But names like Gaborik, Hemsky, Stewart & Moulson. Hell we should go after Horton then.

      # NoNotReally

  • whammer44

    This is typically the worse time of year to make a hockey trade. I would love the Sens to pick up a forward like Stewart or a Dman like Erhoff but without overpaying. I would be happy to wait for the summer to address these two needs so we make the right deal.

    What I would do is move Phillips and Michalek. Neither one of these guys should be back next year as the guys behind them on the roster would be upgrades. Phillips would be ideal as a 6/7 next year but it doesn’t look like he wants that so I would rather get something for him.

    Sens are a better team without Cowen in the lineup. Mgmt has to decide if he is savable but if they want a shot at the playoffs this season he becomes a rotation in the 6th spot. I will be beside myself if he is paired in top 4 minutes again this season…

    • Andrews theory

      Agreed.

      • Tooks

        Well that is the other option, If Murray holsters his guns and tries to make the playoffs without any help. He can do some major off season dealings!

        But I doubt he does that option, he wants to make the playoffs and we wont make it with this group, to achieve 16-4 we need to improve this club in a big way.

        Who knows but its gonna be very interesting what goes down!

  • NickofTime

    Phillips should be traded because we have plenty of defencemen & Boro on a one way next season, we don’t need to carry 8 defencemen again. It would be foolish to trade one of the young defencemen when they have the potential to be very good with a little patience & time & keep a 34 yr old defenceman.

    BM should deal for Stewart & Moulson & give TM whatever he wants except for these guys, everyone else should be on the table to deal:
    Moulson – Spezza – Stewart
    MacArthur – Turris – Ryan
    Michalek – Zibanejad – Stone
    Greening – Z. Smith – Neil/Kassian
    Methot – Karlsson
    Cowen – Ceci
    Wiercioch – Gryba/Boroweicki
    Anderson – Lehner

  • WolfInSheepsClothes

    Assuming both would waive….

    Spezza+ for Kesler?

    • Doc

      Why would it be Spezza + ?

      • WolfInSheepsClothes

        Age/injuries/term.

        Don’t get me wrong, I love Spezza, but he’s a ticking time bomb for another injury.

  • Pasky

    To Ottawa
    Stewart
    Erhoff

    To Buffalo
    Cowen
    Greening
    Prince
    2015 1st
    2014 3rd

    • WolfInSheepsClothes

      Swap Greening for Hoffman and throw in Moulson (w/ extension) and that would be golden.

      MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
      Moulson-Spezza-Stewart
      Michalek-Zibanejad-Condra
      Greening-Smith-Neil

      Ehrhoff-Karlsson
      Methot-Ceci
      Phillips-Weircioch/Gryba

      Not too shabby

      • Jacques

        Condra on the third line, Sheesh! Stone at least!

    • Tooks

      No not our 2015 1st rounder! keep that, you never know…Connor Connor Connor…

    • iSens

      They better not give up the 2015 first!!! We don’t have one this year and 2015 is said to be deepest draft since 2003

  • Neil’s Feels.

    Dreger reporting that the Sens are asking a 1st round pick for Phillips.

    If we do that trade, it will likely be a late round pick, as Phillips will be going to a contender. But it’s much better than nothing seeing as Ottawa doesn’t have a first in 2014.

    Not sure how that still makes us “buyers” though.

    • WolfInSheepsClothes

      If we make a trade like that early enough, we could always package that 1st rounder with other assets to get something really solid.

    • Tooks

      Done!
      Alot of trade winds going around!
      MTL in on Edler & Ehrhoff. Also talk of reuniting Yak with Gal with Tinordi/Markov going to EDM.

    • RUSH RLZ

      I would do that in a second.

      I’ve said before how much I love Phillip’s legacy in Ottawa but.. I think the “deadline” move that would piss me off the most would be extending him for two years… Jesus H!

      • Jacques

        That would be a disaster! We have Claessen coming. And Boro signed to a one-way(didn’t understand that one but hey, what can you do!).

    • Andrews theory

      my feeling on the draft this year is that it’s not deep in terms of top end talent but it is deep in terms of players that can contribute from top 10 to top 30…
      If Murray gets offered a first for Phillips, i hope to hell they move him.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    I believe Murray has a mandate to make the playoffs and it will come back to bite us in the ass….

    Melnyk thought he could cheap out on salary and still make the playoffs to make $$$ but now is realizing that it may be a stretch and is putting pressure on BM to make a small move to get us over the hump so that EM can make some coin off us fans.

    It’s a recipe for disaster. The best thing for the team would be to miss the playoffs and EM realizes that he needs to spend money on quality players to supplement our farm system instead of only relying on the cheap pipeline.

  • Andrews theory

    this is not a guy you trade…
    http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/jrhockey-buzzing-the-net/drouin-gibson-lazar-lead-scouts-top-10-drafted-132446821.html

    3. Curtis Lazar, centre, Ottawa Senators (Edmonton Oil Kings, WHL) – The 6-foot, 190-pound power forward has the makings of a potential future captain. Lazar, who was selected 17th overall by the Senators in 2013, seems to have the leadership abilities, heart, character, work ethic and talent to lead an NHL club. In addition, throughout his three seasons in Edmonton, he has taken consistent steps forward in his game. He’s mustered 35 goals and 64 points in 47 games this year following scoring 61 points in 72 last year and 31 points in 63 as a rookie.

    Scout’s take: “Lazar is the type of player that turns a mediocre team into a contender. He’s a winner. He’s a very complete 200-foot player with excellent leadership qualities and a warrior’s mentality, Lazar can score, dictate the pace of a game, frustrate opponents and can play in any and all situations. He’s perhaps a surprise to be this high compared to some of the other higher profile names, but Lazar’s development continues to trend upwards and his work ethic continues to open up new levels for his game. He will work his way into any coach he plays for because of his heart and he is the model of how to be a successful player. Expect big things from this young man.”

    • Tooks

      I agree he will be a blue chipper but I wouldnt put much stock into a yahoo sports article.

      • Doc

        He’s currently our best prospect not in NHL.

        Pretty close to untouchable.

        • Tooks

          So was Noesen.

      • Andrews theory

        ok, would you put stock into Team Canada or any of the ex NHLers watching the juniors saying he was Canada’s best player?

        • s3nsfan

          No, of course he wouldn’t because he only listens to who he chooses to, and only if they meet what he wants to hear.

        • Tooks

          You talking about the WJC? Mantha was Canada’s best player by far. Followed by Drouin and a couple of D’s. Dumba & Pouliot.

          Lazar was alright but def not Canada’s best, lol.

          • CUP 2014-15

            LOL, Good to have the real Tooks back, I think. Can you tell me again about how awful our team is and how shitty all our prospects are, missed you.

          • BFR

            Yeah, he only finished 3rd in Canadian scoring right behind Mantha and Drouin…. far below the other two.

  • Millennium

    Murray has never been a Deadline Headline ™, and this year won’t be any different. Prices will be high, BM doesn’t like rentals, and the orgs approach has always been slow and steady. Add to that the fact that our ‘best’ asset to sell is Michalek, and we don’t have much to work with.

    • whammer44

      off the top of my head…moved bishop, fisher, kelly, acquired kovalev, anderson, comrie, cullen…there was the corvo/eaves for stillman/commodore…vermette for Leclaire. I’m sure there’s more…

      So I would say he’s usually pretty involved

      • s3nsfan

        Kovalev was the summer, but the rest are accurate

        • whammer44

          Right…I must of been thinking of Saprykin!

      • BFR

        Kovalev was sent out in 2011 at the deadline, but yeah, he was part of deadline deals.

    • BFR

      Not sure if you are trying to convince yourself to calm your nerves, but that’s just not true:

      http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/senators-bryan-murray-loves-to-pull-the-trade-deadline-trigger-1.2553832

  • Jacques

    They have to move Phillips, will be a mistake!

  • karlssens

    Please do not resign Phillips!! Move him for a first if were lucky, or even a second!

  • SensFanInMTL

    Yup. Sorry Murray. But all signs point to Phillips being shipped. Enough waiting and the time’s finally up.

  • Hax

    Ah deadline day(s). When the comment section here is even wackier than usual. NHL14 trades abound, hate on players reaches new heights and bickering runs into the wee hours of the morning!

    Bring it on.

    • Doc

      Gotta love it.

      I’m writing everything down so I can build the ultimate team in NHL 14 tonight. Surely all these trades will work.

      • Tooks

        No I tried, nobody wants to take Cowen off my hands, almost giving him away…

  • my2sens

    Best Tweet Ever. How to spot a fake by Ian Mendes.

    Beware of fake NHL insiders on Twitter. Clues: 1. Fewer than 100 followers. 2. Tweets saying player willing to waive NTC to play with NYI.

  • Miguel

    wow if we can get a firt rounder for Phillips,
    and then sign him back as a UFA for one year as our 7th D, that would work out fairly nicely

    • Jacques

      Why resign him!

      • Miguel

        as a thank you for helping us get a 1st round pick

  • SensFanInMTL

    If everyone is saying we are shipping Phillips to a contender, what does that make our team then?

    • Doc

      I’m no expert, but not a contender?

      • SensFanInMTL

        Wait, what?

    • Jacques

      Smart!

    • Tooks

      Not a contender…

  • Dirtysweetness

    Philly is looking for a second for Meszaros

    https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger

    • Doc

      Good on them to try and cut him loose.

    • my2sens

      Rangers will take him and sign him to a 7 year 53 mil contract.

    • Miguel

      if you are a GM, would you rather take Mez for a second rounder or Philips for a first.
      Not really sure we can get a first for Phillips

      • Doc

        We grabbed Sutton for a 2nd, so that’s the minimum I would want back for Phillips. A 2nd and a prospect would be fair.

  • Spoons

    BREAKING NEWS: My sources tell me nothing has happened at this point. More “nothings” to come… Will keep you posted

  • RUSH RLZ

    According to Incarcerated Bob, Brodeur to Minnesota is done pending Marty’s approval.

  • SensChirp

    Looks like we might be having some site issues. Can anyone see this comment or am I talking to myself?

    • BFR

      I can see it, but I’ve seen the error once.

      • SensChirp

        It’s nice to know I’m not alone. I have seen the error too. We are working on figuring out what’s going on but I believe the issue is on the Host’s end.

    • xN1Cx

      It’s Happening!

  • SensFanInMTL

    Would be hilarious if there was a trade happening between us and Edmonton prior to the game and watch the guys that were traded for swap jerseys lol.

  • SensFanInMTL

    Don’t know if anyone is listening to TSN radio Ottawa but Mackenzie is suggesting that Corvo & Conacher may be placed on waivers at noon.

    • Andrews theory

      I’d be shocked if they put Conacher on waivers….
      how does that make any sense

    • CUP 2014-15

      Saw that, he has thrown that out there due to both of them having met with management this morning, not sure how that leads toward Waivers as apposed to a trade. I would think CC89 is worth a pick to someone.

      • Doc

        Is that’s the case, maybe Conacher will be part of a package.

        • CUP 2014-15

          No shit Doc, would hate to think Bishop went for a mid level pick. At least it would be two mid level picks if it’s a trade

          • Tooks

            You cant expect to have a pick that pro-rates to Bishop’ success, lol. At the time, they were both fair value. Bishop skyrockets and CC89 drops. Your not gonna get much for CC89 anymore, thats how business is.

          • Yukon Cornelius

            Bishop got traded to avoid a goalie controversy and a media circus à la Vancouver. Does it sting to see him play so well in Tampa, yeah sure but we still have Lehner and Anderson so life could be worse.

          • CUP 2014-15

            I don’t have a problem with Murray making that deal, the only fans that should be upset about that deal are the Oiler fans as their org didn’t offer anything more then what we got. The market was weak for him at the time. Just tough to have CC89 fall off the map, heck the Vermett deal looked real bad until the Lehner. You just don’t know how things will work out.

  • SensChirp

    Yup. Conacher and Corvo both on waivers.

    • Doc

      Wow…That’s….retarded.

      • Tooks

        You think CC89 was worth more? Hence the league wide email and nobody bites…Bingo guys can do better.

        • Doc

          Corvo I agree, Conacher should be picked up.

    • CUP 2014-15

      Wow !!!!!!!

    • SensFanInMTL

      You know he’ll be picked up eh? Now, we play the waiting game. Good grief. We now have no Bishop and very soon can lose Cory!

    • ZibbyFan

      How long do we have to wait to see if they clear?

      • s3nsfan75

        Tomorrow at Noon

        • ZibbyFan

          Fingers crossed for Cory…

  • Geoff

    Murray said he sent an email league-wide stating Corvo’s availability; guessing a GM wrote back and maybe asked about CC89 as well?

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    I dont agree with this Conacher on Waivers thing why not Condra or Greening! But then again I really think Murray is gonnna make a move now, if not I will be dissapointed! GO SENS GO huge 2 pts tonight!

    • Doc

      Enough with the Condra talks. People need to get this through their skulls, Condra is a possession wizard and our best defensive forward. You NEED guys like him. He’s not going anywhere.

      As for Conacher, I don’T understand the move. He didn’t cost much and wasn’t a liability on the ice. Now we might lose him for nothing.

      • Moudy Mahfouz

        I get what your saying, his defensive game is amazing but I am still a condra Greening hater. Conacher waive means Sens are going to bring someone in. (I hope)

        • Doc

          I get what you’re saying, but people need to stop looking at the scoreboard when evaluating players like him.

          Just to show you, Karlsson is our best possession player, follow by Condra and Zibanejad. When he’s on the ice, he drives possession and in turn create lest scoring chances for the opposing team.

          • s3nsfan75

            Maybe he can’t score, but he is good defensively and quite often has scoring chances. Sens aren’t trading him, no matter HOW much some of you think you know better than management

          • sprucesens

            Condra will not be on the team in two years. He will not be on a team that wins a cup, here or elsewhere. He is competent at pk,but nothing else. When you look at our team and who we will keep on the team, he is a question mark. This is where we upgrade from within. Sensfan75, FYI management has already offered him in trade packages to better the team, this year. So don’t tell others they are wrong when mgmt has already tried to trade him, with the other team laughed at us, because of his low value to a team. Not saying Condra doesn’t drive possession, but other players can too, while offering more offensively, or even more size/grit. I could be wrong, but the point is you are no more right than I am.

          • Tooks

            I get that but he has to do more than that to stay valuable, he needs to chip in offensively aswell. Otherwise some kid with great possession numbers will come who can score aswell will take his spot.

      • Tooks

        Some things your just not meant to understand Doc. Murray has a plan and I’m sure there is more to come. Hopefully this makes room for some new blood.

        • Doc

          Hope so!

          Just don’t see the value in loosing him for nothing. This will only fuel the fact that we lost the Bishop trade, even if hindsight is 20/20.

          • Tooks

            Well IMO we did lose it, the day Bishop was traded I was dissapointed, you dont trade away a freak goalie. 6’8 monster, thats just a no no. Especially for a smurf like CC89.

            Plain and simple, Yzerman fleeced us. Murray admits to it and moves on.

  • CUP 2014-15

    Good on Murray for making a move that he knew would have everyone all over his ass. Not sure how this move helps the team but faith in BM. Turris, Turris, Turris, it will all be o.k.

  • Neil’s Feels.

    Maybe Tim Murray was a big fan of Conacher. Maybe he claims him. Maybe I put my fist through my computer screen.

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      I am pretty sure I saw on twitter that Buffalo is interested in picking him up…Sorry to ruin your day

  • SensChirp

    Site issues are just an overload on the server. Not a whole lot that can be done short term. Thought the latest server upgrade would be enough to get us through this deadline but maybe not! Thanks for your patience.

  • just saying

    Joe – Joe – Joe Corvo
    we hahd yooo on ahr sahd

    Not surprised about waivers for Joe
    Has he even been invited to the practices for the last 2 months ?
    I always kind of liked him as a player but never understood him being signed this time
    He’s just not a PM type of player

  • Doc

    FYI, my last 3 comments didn’t show up (this one might not as well).

    So I’ll refrain from posting until this clears up.

    • SensChirp

      Just a server overload. Happening to everyone.

      • Doc

        Yeah figured as much. Too many people hitting F5 every 2 seconds…

  • Yukon Cornelius

    I know this goes without saying but if there was ever a time this team needs to go on a tear, it is now. Their longest winning streak is 4 games which is by no means impressive. I’m not asking for another 11 game like in 2010 but something to show that they are a team that can be dominant. They’ll have to string together a lot of wins to make the playoffs but I hope it can be done in a fashion that forces the East to really take notice.

  • Sens613

    Mtl with the big trade with fla. Cough. BM is itching to pull the trigger now.

    • Doc

      What a weird trade. They have Bouillon and Drewiske already not playing, so they trade for a 35 year old 5’9 defenseman. Makes perfect sense.

      • Sens613

        Not sure what Mtl was thinking. Just dipping their toes in the pool maybe.

        • Tooks

          Apparently they wanted another right handed shot. They only have PK as a righty. but still, terrible trade.

  • Tooks

    Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1 min
    FLA trades Mike Weaver to MTL in exchange for 5th round pick in 2015. #TSN #Tradecentre

    LMAO!

    • Doc

      Way to get bigger MTL!

  • cc

    Does Stone get the call? He was performing well during his last stint. Surely Stone on Spezza’s wing makes more sense then Conacher.

    • BFR

      Conacher is still available to play tonight.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Hard to figure out what Conacher on waivers really means. I won’t lose any sleep over it. There are a handful of AHL guys that I think will pass him on the depth chart in short order anyways. I have no clue why he’s on waivers though. Trying to clear salary? He makes less than 1 million, but will be a RFA.

  • Tooks

    Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 2 mins
    Decent interest in 23 yr old Florida d-man Dmitri Kulikov, however, the Panthers have decided not to trade him. Makes sense.

    Too bad…

    • sprucesens

      I meant to ask chirp, any rumours with us and Florida again? Gudbrandson and Mathias or bjugstadt would be welcome additions, but pricey

      • Richard Gough

        I ended up trading Cowan for Gudbrandson in my sim hockey. League

  • SensChirp

    We back online here?

    • sprucesens

      Yeah

    • RUSH RLZ

      Probably all they had to do was increase the number of max connections allowed to your server. ;) Hopefully the wrinkles are ironed out!

  • bob ray al cal don ed ken

    ping

    • SensChirp

      Signs of life!

  • Tooks

    Chris Phillips not on the ice for practice…

    • RUSH RLZ

      I hope this means what we know it might mean, if you know what I mean…

      • Tooks

        Damn I should have said Spezza…Damn Wallace!

      • Miguel

        I know what you mean… I mean, not to be mean, but I mean it would be nice :-)

    • Dirk-Diggler

      He was just there… Don’t know what you’re talking about…

      • bob ray al cal don ed ken

        Tooks = gds

    • CohMa

      There’s a tweet from Brent Wallace with a pic of him signing autographs for some canadian forces while on the ice.

  • Millennium

    Well I’m disappointed by Conacher being waived, but he is a victim of circumstance. We were expecting him to play top-6, and we tried him there a lot, but he seems more suited for bottom-6 work, and our list of bottom-6 prospects is huge. I’m just more curious so see how this effects lineups. There’s gotta be a trade coming, since we’re not gonna run with Kassian for the rest of the stretch, and running with Stone and Hoffman all of a sudden doesn’t match up with how the roster is being handled this season. This suggests we’re getting a winger we think can run in the top-6 from game 1.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    I am assuming something will be happening tomorrow after 12. With Conacher and Corvo on waivers surely Conacher will be picked up and maybe Corvo will too. This opens up contract spaces for the Sens and they can deal to take bodies on. Remember that currently we are carrying 8 D men so if we were to bring in a D we would have to be sending someone out. If Corvo is claimed then the Sens can add a D man and still carry 8 with Cowen and Wiercoch being the extras (assuming Phillips is still with the team)

  • Dirk-Diggler

    If Corvo is claimed and let’s suppose we bring in Ehrhoff…

    Methot-Karlsson
    Ehrhoff-Gryba
    Phillips-Ceci

    extra: Weir/Cowen

    If Phillips gets traded then bottom pairing of Weir-Ceci

    • cc

      don’t you think top 6 forward is more important than top 4 defense man?

      do you think anyone is inquiring about Cowen?

      • Dirk-Diggler

        Don’t trade Cowen. Sit him for most of the rest of the year and get him back to 100% for the start of next season. Let PW get some ice time this season and re-evaluate things in September.

        • Sensnation

          You don’t get to 100% by sitting. He needs to play if he’s going to stay.

    • cc

      isn’t a top 6 fw more of a priority vs a top 4 d?

    • Sensnation

      Isn’t Gryba a bottom pairing dman? Why would you place him with Erhoff?

  • cc

    anyone think other teams are inquiring about Cowen?

  • Sensnation

    Pretty interesting to see Conacher on waivers after all the overblown support he’s gotten in here this year. Wasn’t he supposed to be the next Turris? Glad we’re moving on from him, there’s only so many times you can force him on Spezza’s wing.

    • BFR

      Hate to break it to you, but it looks like he’s going to be on Spezza’s wing tonight. At least to start.

      • Sensnation

        One for the road! haha

    • bob ray al cal don ed ken

      Did NOT like the trade for him on Day 1.
      Athletes with chronic diabetes fade away VERY quickly

      • Perry

        Diabetes runs in my family, an athletic family. Albeit my relatives are no NHLers, but they do not “fade away VERY quickly” as the generalization claims.

      • Sandy

        Well Bobby Clarke had an okay career and he is diabetic..

  • SensChirp

    Should be back on track here. New post

    http://senschirp.ca/news/conacher-corvo-waivers/

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