Spezza, Ryan Dominate in Detroit

SensChirp October 23, 2013 133
Spezza, Ryan Dominate in Detroit

On a night where all the talk was understandably about the former face of the franchise in Daniel Alfredsson, it was the new Captain and the big offseason addition that stole the show.

Jason Spezza and Bobby Ryan each scored a pair, Eric Gryba and Jared Cowen each scored one as the Senators cruised to a dominant 6-1 win over Alfie and the Detroit Red Wings.

The Senators got off to a much better start in this one and it made a difference throughout as they were finally able to dictate the pace of play rather than “chasing the game” as MacLean as said a couple times in the early going this season.

Eric Gryba started the scoring for Ottawa, converting a nifty feed from the recently recalled Mika Zibanejad. Jason Spezza and Bobby Ryan would both add power play goals to give the Senators a commanding 3-0 lead. Detroit answered back with a power play goal of their own before the first period expired but a second period goal from Jason Spezza, his 7th of the season, gave the Senators a three goal lead heading into the final frame. Jared Cowen and Bobby Ryan each added goals in the third to make it 6-1, locking up a convincing win in Motown.

It really would have been difficult to draw up a much better outcome than this.

Not only did the Senators beat the Wings in convincing fashion with Spezza and Ryan leading the way, but Alfie was darn near invisible.  It was a statement game for Ottawa and almost looked like a game Alfie just wanted to get out of the way.  Daniel Alfredsson has moved on and so have the Ottawa Senators. There is still the next hurdle to get over when Alfie plays his first game in Ottawa but really, that should be a celebration of his time here more than anything.

The Senators now return home for a tough weekend that will see them play host to the Anaheim Ducks on Friday night and the San Jose Sharks on Sunday.  Plenty of positives to build off after this one.

  • Sensturion

    It was Cowen’s second of the season, Chirp.

    • SensChirp

      Well I said it was a quick post! Thanks for the correction :)

  • Kielbasa

    Dominant…hungry…determined. This is the team we all expected and want to see this season. Great game all around.

    Even better is rubbing it in Alfie’s big red honker. Keep it up boys!!!!

  • Jacques

    Gryba , just keep playing this kid, he’s really turning into a complete player.

    • Zorav

      … I don’t think it’s fair to say that. He still has more bad than good this season ( understatement).

  • Floridasensfan

    Love it, Nothing better, not only beating them but laying a beating on them on the score board, If Andy knew where that puck was on their lone goal it would have been a shut out to boot. That was almost a gimme goal.

    Captain Spezza

  • Sensturion

    And Team Canada wants to play Claude “No Goals” Giroux instead of Spezza… PFFFT

    • Tooks

      Surely IF he keeps this up, Hockey Canada will have to double back on their own stupidity and actually have Spezza in the mix, they already look kinda stupid for not inviting him.

  • spezzerman

    I don’t see how that could have gone any better. Total domination and everyone looked good.

  • 57gord

    First off let me say I’m a very, very happy person but WTF ? Who were those (un) masked men ? Let the games begin!!
    Go Sens Go… 1down 3 to go. Let’s see what we got.

  • Zorav

    Great Game tonight. I will take it for what it’s worth for tonight and hope they build off of it. There’s no need to start placing any lofty expectations based on one game ( especially Gryba: there’s still more bad than good in his case so far). That being said, it definitely seemed like the extra days off really allowed the sens to regroup and start working on their identity …for at least tonight. Nevertheless, A great starting foundation for the remaining games against more than formidable opponents. Enjoyed the big boys, all, who were on their A game from the get go.

    AND.. Sens finally had their horseshoe tucked in their jerseys as Detroit definitely did have an off-night. Something about …”you need to be good to be lucky”..

    • Zorav

      but seriously HOLY Freakin Shit… If someone were to look at the scores on NHL.com ..and saw the outcome of this game ( especially Detroit), you’d imagine they’d be checking multiple sites to make sure what they read initially was accurate :P,

  • Aaron 2.0

    First time all season I saw puck support in all 3 zones. This looked like a different team. I hope they can keep that kind of play up!

  • Sicilian

    They played well but most of all they played the whole 60 minutes. Penalties weren’t great but they were much better.

    Now for MacLean, we need to show some consistency

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Hopefully the guys can maintain their momentum and beat the Ducks on Friday.

  • IAmThePaulrus

    Great win! Love Alfie but this has to feel great for our guys. Hoping we can take advantage of Anaheim playing Thursday and San Jose playing Saturday both in Montreal

  • hq8

    so many great things about this win, one of them, and a big one: a convincing dominant win on the road against one of the league’s best home-teams.

  • T K

    Andy is finally starting to look like his old self again. Bibi-food did wonders for Karlsson’s mojo; he should ask for some take out…

  • shawn

    Great game. I got to go to this one i live in windsor it was a close game even though the score doesnt show it. Good win against a very good home team. That defence is still shitty in there own end and NEED to improve. Go Sens Go

  • Mexican Baby Jesus

    Is it too early to start a “Spezza” chant at the 19:00 minute mark of each period

    • FBP

      Nope. We could have started this a decade ago.

    • Hax

      I’d be all for it but I can only imagine the confusion as some people start at 19:19 and some start at 19:00 etc. Where’s the RSU when we need them?

    • Mat

      Can we start on December 1st?

  • NickofTime

    Obviously this wasn’t Detroit’s best game but it was the Sens best game this yr. Hopefully they can keep it up against Ann Friday night. I really like most of the players they have playing now, they are bigger & tougher to play against & are winning faceoffs again. Strength down the middle means big bodies that can win faceoffs & Ottawa now has some decent size at centre. Zibanejad – Grant – Robinson would be a good fast line.

  • 57gord

    Has Corvo played his 4 games in all 4 of our wins?

    • GoSensGoEh

      No.
      Tor 4-5 SO loss
      LA 3-4 OT loss
      Ana 1-4 loss
      Det 6-1 win

  • The Apostle

    I like this new rule where we are allowed to score on the powerplay. We should keep it.

  • A-O

    I’m thinking this team put out a great effort more because of MacLean’s return to Detroit than the Alfie factor. Good on them for getting him the ‘W’ in his former building.
    GO SENS GO!

  • ProbablyNot11

    Lars Eller confirms he was actually talking about Detroit not Edmonton.

  • FBP

    I’m glad you didn’t need to turn off the comment section Chirp.

    • SensChirp

      Ha! Instead it turned out to be one of the better nights in the comment section. It’s interesting that there are always “more” comments when the team is losing but the quality goes way down.

      Switches when the team is winning.

  • boom

    Good write-up Chirp,

    I was thinking last night that we all, kind of , missed the boat yesterday – focusing/obcessing about Alfie. I understand that this was a game that was circled on alot of calendars because it was our first game against our OLD captain, but I don’t think we talked enough about the importance of this game for our NEW captain.

    Jason Spezza, for whatever reason, seems to be a polarizing figure amongst Senator fans. I, myself, have been critical of him on this site, yet find myself defending him everywhere else – strange…

    At any rate, I would wager that the player who felt he had most to prove, and really felt he needed to make a statement was Jason Spezza – and he delivered, in a big way.
    It’s early yet, I realize, but Spezza has already shown a tendency to come through when the team needs a big performance, and I think that goes a long way into being a great captain.

    I’m not sure if this will silence any of the naysayers, but I think it’s time fans give credit where credit is due.

    • A-O

      well said! So far our new captain is putting up the numbers (over pointt/game) and saying all the right things. Be nice to have a few more Ws but we’ll get there.

    • The Apostle

      Good points. Lost in the haze is how difficult a transition it could be for Spezza, especially when the focus wasn’t on his appointment itself as it was on the reason we needed that appointment in the first place.

      I don’t think it’s a coincidence that MacLean’s post game interview contained the following (ish): it was a great game from our captain.

      He didn’t say Spezza, he didn’t say Jason, he said our captain.

    • GoSensGoEh

      Any time you need to defend Spezza, just mention he’s missed fewer games than Crosby, and if it’s a leafs fan, change it from Crosby to Lupul.

  • my2sens

    Great COMPLETE game by everyone!!

    Welcome back Zbad!

    Awesome game by Grant, Zbad, Spezza, Ryan, King Karl and the Waterboy.

    We didn’t take stupid penalties, Andy was dandy when needed and we never let off the gas.

    My only negative is that Michalek seems to be invisible out there… He is a big body with tons of potential… who’s line was he on?

    Now that we have had our fill of Wings, Duck Confi!!

    • Tooks

      Well Zib needed to have an impact game and he did just that, he got us off to a good start, scoring first on the road is crucial!

      Grant also played really well.

      What can I say about Spezza and Ryan, they arent even playing together and they’re lighting the lamp! lol, ironic isnt it!

      Anyways I thought DET was a much better team, IMO they played like shit, never seen Datsyuk or Zet be that invisible, same with Alfie, Howard was terrible and Gustafvsson wasnt better! Good for us!

      • boom

        Zibanejad looked really strong on the boards all night long. He and Grant give us alot more size and speed.
        This was the 1st game i can recall where all forwards got, at least, 10 minutes of ice-time. I really think this is key to the way MacLean likes to roll his lines.
        (I know it’s easier to do when you have a big lead, but it’s something to watch going forward.)

      • GoSensGoEh

        Thumbs up for 3 out of 4 good comments :-)

  • aegiszx

    As chirp mentioned a few posts back, this stretch is going to be one of those season defining moments. Ducks, Sharks, and the defending Cup winners, Blackhawks (please make this the best showing, as my wife has been in my ear all summer after they won their second cup in as many years).

    Funny enough, wasn’t it around this time two seasons ago that we were on a slump, and Alfie held a players only meeting? After which we went on a small run, and made the playoffs in our first year under Pmac.

  • ZibbyFan

    Great win for a team that played as a team. Some lucky bounces, but what the hey — I’ll take it. And Zibby played well too in his short on-ice stint.

    Did anyone notice how MM was really not visible?

    • my2sens

      I wouldn’t really say they were ‘lucky’ bounces, rather that the Sens played to CREATE those bounces and chances.

      They were all over the ice forcing plays and turnovers.

    • NO65*

      Agreed, MM9 was nowhere to be found in this game. Also, it was a good decision to promote Greening on the Spezza line and put CC89 with Smith and Neil. It added more speed on this 3rd line. All the lines had speed last night.

    • GoSensGoEh

      Zibanejad still has a ways to go, but I really liked some of the things he did last night. He was responsible for creating a couple chances almost single handedly. He may never hit 30 goals in a year in his career, but I can see 65-75 points on a yearly basis down the road from him.

      I was watching Michalek at times, and he was doing other things to help, the same way MacArthur has been. At one point I was thinking Michalek was in a bad location, and as I thought it, he moved around and was suddenly in a prime scoring location. His goals will come, same as MacArthur.

  • Robert Cyr

    Best 2 way effort so far this season !
    Only 3 minor penalties, and the whole team kept moving their feet for 60 minutes.

    Truly fitting that both Spezza and Ryan, show their sniper sense with 2 goals each.

    Hope this momentum carries into the Ducks game on Friday, and continues till
    the Chicago game on Tuesday Oct 29th.

    Winning the last 3 games in October, would result in record of 7-3-2, for 16 points
    out of possible 24 points, and moving up in Eastern Conference and Atlantic Division
    Standings .

    GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Snoopy Senior

  • my2sens

    And for all Spezza haters… yes, early in season… but tied with the best for 2nd in goals for…

    • Tooks

      Thats awesome and should shut those haters up!
      Steen…really!! lol

    • my2sens

      And… a good laugh to start the day.

      Matt Cooke (ugh) has 3 goals, 3 assists +5 rating….

      Wait for it… waaaaiiittt for it… DRUM ROLL!!!

      Dany the Douchebag Heatley has…..

      2 POINTS!!! 2 fucking points! 0g 2a and -2 rating!!

      Can this day get any better!?

    • MikeS

      I got spezza and OV in my pool :)

    • GoSensGoEh

      And Ryan at the next level with 6 goals. Two scoring lines, can it be possible in Ottawa?

      YAY!!!

  • Alcatraz

    I tweeted at Brent Wallace to ask a question post-game but I guess he never did. Missed opportunity clearly.

    He should have asked Alfie. “After the first period when Ottawa was up 3-1, did you think you felt Detroit had a chance at coming back?”

    #ProbablyNot

  • spezzerman

    Sorry if this has been mentioned but it is such a shame that the Sens walking into JLA and dominating Alfie’s adopted team should be the story but then John Scott goes all John Scott and that is all anyone is talking about.

    • Robert Cyr

      So if he is 6’8″ and fights for Buffalo, what’s it all about ??

      SnoopySenior

    • The Apostle

      The first story is of interest to 2 sets of fans. The other one is a league issue.

      Let people talk about Scott, if it allows us to slowly find our way back to being a good team without people becoming aware of it then good for us.

  • Ghost of Moose Vasko

    Sooooo -any opinions about Wiercioch being benched ?

    • SensChirp

      Certainly worked out last night as Gryba ended up being one of the team’s best defenceman. Need to get him back in the line up though I think.

      • Tooks

        Ya I think PW46 throughout the year will bring more to the table and help us more than Gryba would. Gryba still has more bad than good but surely, yesterday was one of his best games of his career.

        • Alcatraz

          Ya in replace of Corvo lol

          • Tooks

            True, I guess Gryba could play 3rd pairing and limit his minutes. Corvo can ride the press box until someone gets hurt.

          • SensChirp

            You mean Point-a-game Joe?

          • RUSH RLZ

            Believe me I am no enduring fan of The Joe but yeah… is there any other player in the league on pace to put up 36 points at ‘only’ $25K per?

          • GoSensGoEh

            I was going to say Tom Gilbert, but he’s just over $50k per.

      • GoSensGoEh

        Don’t do that, I nearly choked on leftover pizza. Gryba scored, and…?

        He wasn’t horrible but to say he, “ended up being one of the team’s best defenceman”…

  • beeblebrox

    Stupid Anderson letting in a stupid goal so he didn’t get a stupid shutout and stupidly ruining a stupid REAL perfect game stupid result.

    • Ghost of Moose Vasko

      Too many Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters last night , Zaphod ?

      • RUSH RLZ

        Maybe, but he nailed Eccentrica Gallumbits and that’s all that matters.

    • beeblebrox

      I kid, obviously. But I do have Anderson in two of my hockey pools, and this one goal allowed crap is making me miss mucho points in the shutout category.

    • GoSensGoEh

      LMAO

      It was such an unfortunate goal since Anderson looked to his right at the exact wrong time.

  • NO65*

    I hope PMac gives JGP another chance to play with Zibby and Condra instead of Kassian. I like Grant but I think JGP can bring more to the table.

    • Tooks

      I think most are in agreement that JGP is going back to Bingo, sooner rather than later.

      Grant and Zib are better suited in the bottom 6 than Pageau is.

      • xN1Cx

        This post I liked, everything else you’ve wrote makes me puke

        • Hax

          Agreed. Looks like Tookie’s meds ran out. It was nice while it lasted.

          • Tooks

            What didnt you like? Have I hurt someones feelings again?
            Is it about the Mantha/Lazar thing cuz clearly, Mantha is having a better year so far. You disagree?

          • GoSensGoEh

            The head was the primary point of contact, and you lead with your elbow. You left your feet prior to the hit, and you have a history. Whether there was an injury to anyones feelings is irrelevant as you have met enough of the other criteria to be down thumbed. Pending an informal hearing, you may be suspended and have to go to your room, without supper.

  • the dude

    The second goal by Spezza was awesome! I think he purposely banked his first shot off the back boards to one-time it to himself, not many players have that kind of creativity and skill. Is it just ’cause I’m a Sens fan that I think if it was Crosby or OV or anyone in a Leafs jersey that scored a goal like that it would be all over TSN, highlight of the night type of deal?

    • Tooks

      I like Spezza but dont think that was a planned bank shot, he was just shooting on net. Alot of bad things happened next for DET.

      1. Gust should of got that bounce back or even caught the puck as it went wide.
      2. Datsyuk stood still.
      3. Kronwall stood still.
      4. Smith stood still.
      5. Spezza followed through and scored haha!!

      • Go Sens Go

        Yes but Spezza did score. It was a great goal. All goals are caused by missed plays, missed by goalie or something. If we only highlight all these things then no player is good as they only seem to capitalize on other players mistakes. What a dumb comment that was.

  • hq8

    spezz – tied for second in league for goal scoring
    ryan – not too far behind tied for third in league for goal scoring
    EK65 – fourth in D-men scoring and heating up
    Zibby – what can you say, major underrated impact capability, first game back and kick starts the sens scoring. message sent and message received. p.s. he was still DJing on the flight back.
    need to put the ducks out next game and then also need to put the sharks out.
    also, something I didnt get a hang of yesterday, why do people hate Gryba so much? he plays hard and is a tough guy to play against. last season he stepped up admirably for the sens. and remember the playoffs against the Habs – i think the guy single handedly changed the series for good with his hit on eller.

    • Alcatraz

      the puck is a granade to him in our own end. He tries to always clear the puck on his abck hand and he is very weak with it.
      He is caught out of position all the time, and isn’t able to move the puck up to the forward with regular ease

      • Tooks

        Ya I remember the Habs series, do you remember the Pens series…

        Gryba is extremely slow and like Alc said, in our own end is a complete mess.

        • s3nsfan

          Disagree with both of you, he might need work in his own end but complete mess is a complete over statement, please explain to me why MacLean plays Gryba if he’s such a mess instead of someone else, or bringing someone up?
          MacLean THAT bad of a judge on a player? Think not

          • sprucesens

            agree, gryba was terrible when he first came up, but has settled down a lot. Still has the odd give away, but is definitely a competent 5-6 guy. I certainly don’t feel he has been our worst defenceman. Aside from the Detroit game where everyone played well, they had all looked equally terrible. Personally, i’d take him 10 times out of 10 over borocop. And I also don’t feel boro will have any legit time on our team. Unless gryba and methot are both injured.
            Future D for a while anyways,
            methot-karlsson
            Cowen-Ceci
            Wiercioch-Gryba
            extra’s being Borowiecki, Claesson, Wikstrand,

    • GoSensGoEh

      Gryba made a bonehead giveaway pass in his own zone just a minute or two before his goal. If he hadn’t scored, it may have been highlighted more. He also made some bad decisions on PK last night. I really hate the panic clear attempt that just goes to the other teams point man. I try not to get too down on him, he is the 6/7 D and still very inexperienced at that level, so we can’t expect too much yet. I hope he improves to the point of being a half decent shutdown guy to be paired with Borowiecki as the bottom pairing in the future.

  • hq8

    i have to admit though, the little engine that is pushing this team right now is Kyle Turris as he was directly responsible for turning a 1-0 lead into a 3-0 lead in a span of 5 minutes. created two back-to-back successful sens powerplays.

    • Tooks

      I agree, his falling helped us, the hokking call was laghable as Turris clearly closed his hand on the stick and held it there…The trip, well was a trip, nothing Turris did there but fall :)

  • s3nsf4n65

    Curtis Lazar – 10GP, 9G, 8A, 17PTS and leading the team with a +13

    • aegiszx

      Love it!! Curtis will def top 100 pts this year!

    • Tooks

      Thats 3rd on his team in scoring and 17th in the League…

      • Alcatraz

        Although WHL scoring and QMJHL scoring are quite different

        Look at what hoffman did in the Q lol

        • Tooks

          Yeah same for Stone I guess.

          • JAY79

            Stone played in the WHL. It looks like you need to get your facts straight before you criticise all the time.

          • Tooks

            Maybe I should have been more clear for you…

            I was referring to “Look at what hoffman did in the Q lol”

            Both players dominated their respective leagues, doesnt mean cuz Stone was WHL that he was or is better than Hoffman.

      • boom

        why are you such a dink sometimes? You do know he missed the first 5 games, and his PPG is top 5 in the league eh?

      • Aaron 2.0

        I’m happy with Lazar. This kid is exactly the type of player Murray likes. I think he’ll be a good one for us.

  • RUSH RLZ

    Busy morning on my end so no time to read through all the (happy) comments but I just had to drop a quick line.

    Last night’s game was a dream come true, exactly what the Dr. ordered. We finally got to see the potential of our squad this season, and more importantly so did The Stache, Murray and the players themselves…

    Domination and something we can work towards replicating.

    Happy sleep last night, happy sleep indeed!

    Go Sens!

  • Hax

    Just what the doctor ordered. Playing a really good team that nobody wants to lose to. The Alfredsson distraction to keep everyone from thinking about not-so-great play recently. Knowing that if they didn’t start strong the game could dissolve quickly.

    All of that leads to the most complete 60-minute effort of the season from everyone.

    Now they just need to build on that for the next few games against elite teams. Don’t need to win all three but if we play our game in all three (and manage a few points) then we’ll really have something.

  • Conor_smythe

    the things that I liked most about last night’s game was the defence showing patience with the puck.

    instead of instantaneously trying to throw the puck up ice, they passed it back and forth, made space, and then moved up ice. Using the net as a 6th man, so to speak.

    I think everyone was just so amped to get the season started they were trying to make really quick transition plays. but the results were sloppy passing and a ton of giveaways.

    If we continue to play with this kind of patience, the sky is the limit.

  • Alcatraz

    Super quiet in here, everyone hungover after a big win?

    • Tooks

      Lots of hate going around the NHL circles right now towards Ron Rolston, even some people insisting he be fired for Scott’s antics this season.

      • SenaWalrus

        I think there should be some accountability towards the coach and/or team for the stupidity (suspensions) of players. Having never been on a pro team, I’m not sure how much a coach really controls their players in that way. I’m sure they don’t say “hey, Joe, go elbow that guy in the head”…

        But on the other side, if a team is penalized some how (fines, lost points, etc) player’s might be more cautious.

        Or, even better, why not make a suspended player count as a roster spot for the games they are suspended so the team has to play a man short… that would be have an impact.

        • Go Sens Go

          That is a good idea. Lost player will affect the team and will get rid of such crazy plays.

          • The Apostle

            I doubt it will get rid of crazy plays but it might have an impact of coaches playing players who make them. Surely if John Scott (or whoever) was thinking about his actions to any extent he wouldn’t do what he did.

            In theory there are lots of little punishments that apply to the organisation. The player is missing from the line-up, he stays on the cap whilst suspended, the organisation still are liable for his wages (i think) even though the player doesn’t get them.

            The major problems I see with pulling players from the line-up is the NHLPA, I could see them arguing that a team playing with 16 or 17 skaters instead of 18 puts unfair pressure on those skaters which is a health issue. I think that’s a bullshit argument, but that probably won’t stop it being used.

            The biggest issue however is does anybody have any confidence in the player discipline system that means this would be applied consistently or appropriately? I would want to fix the ridiculous arbitrary nature of suspensions/non suspensions before applying something as drastic as making teams play with a short bench.

          • Hax

            Agreed. Before they do something like this (which I think has merit) they first have to figure out how to get the dept of player safety handing out consistent and fair rulings – and they’re a long way off still.

          • The Apostle

            The sad fact is that the vast majority of the talk about eliminating head shots and concussions is simply that, talk. It’s not helped by the players themselves, remember a couple of years back Crosby comes back from a concussion and blatantly elbows/hits Foligno in the head. But because it wasn’t the other way around nothing happened.

            One way round this is to have properly standard suspensions throughout the game, the way they do in soccer. If you do X bad thing you get a 3 game ban, doesn’t matter if you are Lionel Messi or Ronaldo or some plug who can barely kick the ball.It’s the same punishment. Repeat offenders are treated more harshly.

            You won’t get that in the NHL because the owners are terrified of the marquee players getting suspensions. It’s not like the league can’t do it, see David Clarkson. He did this meant he got this.

            People are too concerned about striking a balance between physicality and safety, sadly there is no way to be totally safe but to make the game safer you have to remove some of the physicality. I don’t mean hitting, I mean headshots.

            All head shots should be reviewable. If the head was found to be the primary point of contact (accidental or otherwise) 1 game ban. 2nd time you do it in a season, 3 games. Third time 10 games and so on.

            Once players and teams start missing quality players for 15/.20 games at a time they’ll start to notice. They should also remove tying the suspension to an injury. We all know that if Eller hadn’t of bled everywhere after Gryba hit him the punishment would have been less severe, but if there was a mandatory suspension for that sort of hit then that wouldn’t have been an issue.

            This issue isn’t being solved because the people with a say, the people who are stakeholders don’t want it solved badly enough.

          • Alcatraz

            NFL doesn’t care who gets suspended. I say if you target the head and get a 5 and a game its auto 5 game suspension. You target the head and get away with a minor somehow, but is reviewable by NHLis auto 2 game suspension

            If you complete a hit and get away with it on the ice (Garbutt) NHL can use their normal arbitrary system

            2nd infraction, your previous suspension is doubled. Third infraction, tripled.

            This would apply to head shots only, hits from behind are a little harder to evaluate because of the nature of them

          • The Apostle

            I agree. But the NFL is a much more secure league and is the biggest draw in town. The NHL in a lot of places is the 4th or 5th ticket.

          • sprucesens

            I really like the man out of the lineup idea. The NHL is worried about superstars being kicked from games?? If that’s the problem, tell the superstars, NOT TO THROW ILLEGAL HITS. I don’t care if you’re matt cook or pavel datsyuk. An illegal hit isn’t debatable. Injury should not have an effect on the outcome, if there was intent. Gryba’s hit last year, was legal. A shitty outcome, and a 1 game ban just to appease fans. But was legal. Lots of other hits have been illegal and received nothing.
            I think the bigger problem, is the types of players that usually make these plays are the john scott’s and other goons of hockey. If you argue that they need larger suspensions, you might have no goons on the ice, thus eliminating fights. lol. Oh well, we can’t change it, we can just hope our players don’t do it, and don’t be the victims of it.

          • Tooks

            I saw 1 tweet from Ferraro or something that they will never make it mandatory to be suspended max games for illegal hits. He said having guys who sell tickets out 20+ games bad for NHL. What if Ovie did it…

            I think thats what it said.

          • The Apostle

            Sort of exactly my point. We saw the hissy fit Ovechkin threw last time he was suspended.The NHL is probably terrified that more big name Russian players will follow Kovalchuk’s lead too.

            Even though it would take (in my example) 4 hits to the head delivered bu Ovechkin for him to get to 20 games neither the owners, NHL or NHLPA want that sort of discipline.

            The hit should determine the outcome. Not the outcome of the hit and the person who threw it should only come into to decide whether additional suspension is warranted.

          • The Apostle

            The headshot debate has been going on at sens underground for about 4 years.

  • MethotToMyMadness

    LOVED THAT GAME. LOVED, LOVED, LOVED. You know, I think I loved that Game!!!!

  • Tooks

    Scott suspended indefinitely pending hearing…

    • Alcatraz

      I figured that goes without saying? lol In-person means travel time needed. Thats just a broadcast msg meaning, we aren’t in a hurry to speed up the process because of schedule lol

      • Tooks

        Frist time I see it broadcasted…Didnt say that for Kaleta or any other suspended players this year.

        • Phil.

          It’s standing operating procedure and it was in fact stated as such for Kaleta and others. They at times will simply say “suspended pending hearing”

        • Alcatraz

          Kaleta was suspended indefinitely I believe. It may also have to do with the fact Buffalo play tomorrow in Florida. So they are traveling. Why make Scott travel to Florida, if his in-person is in New York type thing

        • s3nsfan

          Kaleta was suspended indefinitely

          cbssports – As a result of the suspension — which is already two games in as Kaleta was suspended indefinitely prior to his hearing –

  • Sandy

    Their best game by far start to finish.
    I had been critical of this team this last week.. but mostly because of the way they were playing. Something was off.. they looked slow and disorganized… But not last night.
    I said if the Pesky Sens show up.. they have a chance.

    And show up they did.. Now that is the team I thought we would see from game 1. It took time..and a couple of lineup changes.. but they finally played as the Sens..
    Was it really Ottawa having a statement game or did Detroit expect 2 easy points as Ottawa had been struggling pretty badly the last few games and figured they didn’t have to put ih the effort..
    Ottawa needs to bring that game going forward.. especially the next 3 games.
    Time to get more points and climb the standings..
    Pesky Sens are finally back…

  • Alcatraz

    At a faceoff (Shown on TSN) Alfie asked Macarthur “How he was”, Macarthur responded “I’ve been better, they gave me your stall, and I haven’t scored yet”

  • Sandy

    I hated that Scott hit on Eriksson last night. That reminded me of Cooke on Savard..
    Blind side.. elbow to the head. Yes he is a tall player — but he targeted the head and he tracked him….
    I’m all for a 15+ game suspension.

    Time for Shanahan to stop looking at past history..ie has this player been suspended before. Who cares? You have to look at the hit itself.. not who did it, what team he plays for, who was the injured player.. does the guy have a history. That’s a bunch of crap..
    You want head shots out of the game… especially hits like that — then you hit the player hard in the wallet… by sitting him out long term..
    Guys like John Scott & Kaleta should not even be in the NHL. Don’t you think Buffalo may be more competitive if they had some type of skill in their lineup in place of these 2 goons?

    • Phil.

      Part of what can and can’t be considered for suspensions is negotiated in the CBA. The player/NHLPA would challenge any ruling where the length of suspension is inconsistent with previous decision (see Kaleta). Even if 10 is upheld in that case, 15 games for a first time offender would not fly.

      • sprucesens

        I sort of disagree. History needs to be taken into account. If that hit was from torres, i’d say he’d need a year to sit it out with the number of suspensions he’s had. Even clean good players can make a hard hit that just happens to go wrong, hence looking into history. However, if the hit was completely malicious, first time or not, there should be no real limit on what can be handed down. But the NHLPA wouldn’t go for that, so here we are.

        • Phil.

          Just to be clear I am not saying I agree with the system but the CBA is clear that suspensions that happened more than 18 months prior don’t count and minor penalties don’t count (including those for gestures similar to the suspendable offense: for example Kessel’s previous slashing minors did not matter for the slashing suspension). That’s how Kaleta, Tootoo, etc get away with so much; their infractions punished by minor or even major penalties that accumulate to give them their reputation don’t matter for suspensions. The NHL’s hands are tied here until the NHLPA decides to change their approach.

  • laffin681021

    Just throwing this out there…we’re only 9 games in and Bobby Ryan is only 5 goals away from his total from last year…love it

  • thepez

    Biggest thing for me last night was the focus this team showed. Pretty much played at a high tempo for 60 minutes. At one point I actually thought the Sens were a Western Conference team. The big boys came to play. However I really liked how Gryba played. Was physical and very sure of himself with the puck. I still think that Gryba has the potential to be a #4 d-man on this team and for me is the heir apparent to replacing Chris Phillips when he hangs them up.

    • Tooks

      Yes as a 6/7 defenseman.

      • boom

        Oh, well, thanks for clearing that up for the rest if us who thought perhaps we should wait until he has played more than 39 games in the NHL before deciding where he will slot in on our depth chart.
        Imagine the audacity of thepez to suggest that Gryba has the “potential” to be #4 d-man…he should have checked with you first, before saying such a thing.
        And, why doesTSN waste our time with Craig Button and Bob MacKenzie when you are available?
        I know you are a “stats” guy, so i guess you will agree that your boy Yakupov (who you never stopped talking about) is the Oiler’s 4th line winger eh?

        • Aaron 2.0

          I think you may change your mind about Yakupov somewhere down the road…

          • boom

            I haven’t made up my mind about him yet. that’s the point I was trying to make. It’s far too early to judge him or Gryba.

        • Jacques

          Tookie isn’t even an authority on his own bowel movements. His hero is Shawn Simpson another Dufus who makes moron comments about the Sens on TSN1200. How he keeps his job is beyond me, he blows the Leafs and Habs horn all day. Eating his words about Bobby Ryan now though. Sens have the makings of a great team if they use the right elements in the bottom six. I like Grant, he’s big and can skate and is great in the face off circle. Just needs a few more games to feel real comfy.

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      I think he can be a high end 5-6th dman. At the moment he still has things to work on. Remember Cowen first game back from injury and he laid out (forget who)…where has that been?
      To be honest if this team doesn’t hit and play physical we aren’t hard to play against.

    • Jacques

      Great post, I agree Gryba plays lots of tough minutes, especially on the PK and does a great job.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Wild game going on between Chicago and Tampa Bay. Bishop will want the 5-5- tie Chicago goal back tonight.