Senators Visit the Defending Stanley Cup Champs

SensChirp October 29, 2013 430
Senators Visit the Defending Stanley Cup Champs

After consecutive losses on home ice to two of the top teams in the Western Conference, the Ottawa Senators head out on a quick one game road trip that takes them to the home of the defending Stanley Cup Champions.

The Chicago Blackhawks are off to another strong start, posting a 7-2-3 record and solidifying their spot as a Cup contender again this season.  They’re coming off a convincing 5-1 win in Minnesota last night, which helped them snap a mini two game losing streak.

As the Sens learned against the Ducks and Sharks, facing a team on a back to back is never a layup.  Especially when the team you’re facing is one of the elite teams in the Western Conference.

Corey Crawford started last night’s game so there is a chance the Senators see another back up, although in this case it certainly won’t be his first game.  Nikolai Khabibulin has played 797 games in the NHL including a couple games this season.  We’ll see if he gets the nod tonight.

Ahead of yesterday’s practice, the players held a closed door “players only” meeting led by the new Captain Jason Spezza.  The team realizes that the way they have started games as of late has been unacceptable and want to get things back on track.  A little early to play the players-only meeting card but clearly there were some things that needed to be addressed and it seemed like a fairly productive conversation.

We’ll see how it translates on the ice tonight.

More line juggling from Head Coach Paul MacLean at yesterday’s practice as he continues to search for the right combinations up front.  Bobby Ryan was back on the top line with Milan Michalek and Jason Spezza while Mika Zibanejad found his way onto the second line with Turris and MacArthur.

(UPDATE 1:54 PM)- The Senators are on the ice for their game day skate and it seems as though the combinations from yesterday have carried over.  Here is how the Sens are expected to line up

Michalek-Spezza-Ryan
MacArthur-Turris-Zibanejad
Conacher-Smith-Neil
Greening-Grant-Condra
 
Methot-Karlsson
Phillips-Wiercioch
Cowen-Corvo

Nikolai Khabibulin is expected to get the nod for Chicago while the Senators will counter with Craig Anderson.

Puck drop is just after 8:00 PM.

  • -Going to try out a new feature of sorts here on the site called The Daily Chirp.  Over the years, I’ve accumulated a lot of random bits of information about the Senators that never made it on to the blog for one reason or another.  It will be a combination of facts, rumours, stories and speculation that I’ve come across over the years. Some new stuff, some old.  And despite the name, it likely won’t be every single day but keep an eye on the bottom of the post for “The Daily Chirp”.

The Daily Chirp- At the NHL Draft in New Jersey, the Ottawa Senators apparently received an offer for centre Kyle Turris.  The team remains a bit of a mystery but some have suggested it may have been the Nashville Predators and the 4th overall pick was on the table.

  • Robert Cyr

    Let’s hope the Sens find the same recipe they used for trouncing Detroit 6-1.
    Gotta feeling that MacLean will start with Lehner, in trying to change the bad luck starts by Anderson.

    Anderson is still in my books our #1 goalie, but Lehner has not played enough games,
    and needs to stay sharp by playing more than 10% of the games.

    Also, we need to establish our line combinations, and stick with the same lineup game
    after game.

    GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Snoopy Senior

    • Tooks

      I know right, give the boys some time to build some chemistry…I dont mind the odd line up change to spark something but to change almost nightly and in-game aswell…

      MM9 & Spezza will never work, change that to Spezza & Ryan. Michalek is not hockey smart, he doesnt get open in space for Spezza to pass it to him, he’s a north/south type of player. Ryanj actually moves to open spaces to recieve passes, let them develop that bond.

      Turris is a machine right now, he can play with anyone and actually make them better, so, insert Michalek here, he can go to the net while Turris cuts and shoots or sets up Zib.

      I guess I’m ok with CC89 going to 3rd for Zib to have a shot, see what he can do with Turris. Zib has played well the last 2 games despite losses.

      Mac Spezza Ryan
      Zbad Turris Michalek
      CC Grant Neil
      Greening Smith Condra

      • karlsson65

        Wow our entire bottom 6 is an offensive black hole, except for CC89, but good luck making anything happen with those linemates. I’d like to try:

        Hoffman-Spezza-Ryan
        Zbad-Turris-Michalek
        MacArthur-Pageau-CC89
        Greening/Condra-Smith-Neil

        • Tooks

          I like Pageau as much as the next guy but he aint rdy for the show yet, neither is Hoffman, not full time anyways and to call him up when we dont have an injury you would have to bench 2 players. Aint happenning.

          • karlsson65

            Agree Pageau needs seasoning but offensively he has more upside than Grant or Smith, the other 3/4C options. Grant is ok but he’s too similar to Condra/Smith (defence 1st). I say return him to Bingo and give an offensive guy, Hoffman (4G4A) a shot. I think our overall bad team D is more on the actual defencemen (turnovers, bad breakout passes, bad coverage) than the forwards so let’s try and find some secondary scoring. I mean 3G in 54 man-games between all of Michalek (2), Greening (0), Turris (1), Condra (0), MacArthur (0)… absolutely unacceptable.

          • Tooks

            Yeah its straight out terrible. Maybe we arent as good as alot of fans thought we would be, not that we should of been that good. Fans setting high expectations only to come falling back down to earth.

            IMO adding a player like Hoffman or Pageau (who only has 1 goal) doesnt mean the offense will be better but pretty much takes out the defensive aspect of the bottom 6.

            Atleast with Grant and Smith, Greening, etc…We are bigger and harder to play against.

            Like you said I also think its our D that is creating the poor play. Maybe sit Cowen, bring up Boro?

          • hq8

            yea i think thats the other part. some murmurs existed that the last two seasons were greatly helped by Andy being lights out but that his regression was beckoning. i dont want to believe that. but the sample size 11 games in suggests that this may be Andy’s down year. the sens were stingy in GA last year, but were also giving up a lot of shots: 31/Gm (23rd in the league). this year they are at 36/Gm. for a truer comparo, over 82 games in 2011-2012 they gave up 32SA/Gm good for LAST IN THE LEAGUE. so yea, our goalie is not at his peak of the last two years.

          • LeafsSux

            Hoffman is more than ready… Trust me… Not top line but he is ready and im hoping he’s up real soon

      • Go Sens Go

        The only problem with moving Mac up is Mac and Turris have been playing really well. I would switch Mac and Zbad in your line up. I do agree time to move Michalek down and stick with the line for multiple games before reworking them.

      • MrSkullhead

        I really like these lines. Call PMac now.

      • WaitingSince92

        I know what you’re trying to say, and to an extent, I even agree, but Michalek not having hockey smarts?

        Puh-leez…..

        That’s just silly.

  • s3nsf4n65

    So, Seth Jones for Kyle Turris? Tempting but I love Turris’ puck possession ability I’d hate to see him go

  • Alcatraz

    Interesting daily Chirp
    So your telling me Seth Jones could have been a possibility
    All this tells me is the faith the Sens have in both Turris + Cowen

    • Tooks

      Which could be totally misplaced! Seth JONES!
      Ok I agree in keeping Turris but Cowen…still has lots of work to do…especially in speed/pivoting department.

    • The Apostle

      I don’t think turning that deal (if true) down says anything at all about Cowen (unless the deal was offered whilst Nashville were picking). Barely anybody was expecting Jones to be there at 4.

  • boom

    The “Daily Chirp” is a nice touch. Thanks again Chirp.
    If this one is true, it shows you what the Sens think of Turris, eh?

    • SensChirp

      The timing is also important and that part I’m not clear on. Maybe once the Preds realized Jones was falling to them, they no longer had interest in dealing the pick? Could have been something talked about in the days leading up to the draft…

      • The Apostle

        I guess i should have read a couple of posts down before replying to Alcatraz.

      • The Apostle

        Double reply – poor form.

        Question for Chirp – did you know about this at or around the draft and if so, why are we hearing about it now and not then?

        • SensChirp

          Heard about it a week or so after. Hinted about it on the site but in less detail.

          Point of the new feature is that not all the things I hear can be confirmed, making it tough to put them on the site in a “timely” fashion. But in this feature I’m going to be little more open with what gets included because it’s a mix of rumour, speculation and fact.

          • The Apostle

            I didn’t like the tone of my question, what I meant was, was this one of those this is happening but you can’t say type deals? I guess it wasn’t because you heard about if after the fact.

            I like the fact that this site isn’t hockeybuzz. No offence is meant but I believe most of us come here for “the community” rather than to tap into your thoughts or hear some outlandish rumour. That being said, Spezza is definitely going to be traded because he hasn’t scored a hat trick for at least a couple of games.

            You provide an excellent framework for the ridiculousness that is the comments section. That is the value you offer and that we welcome.

          • SensChirp

            I appreciate that. Just thought some of these things I hear, properly framed, would be of interest to readers. We’ll give it a try and see what people think.

          • The Apostle

            I think it’s a fine idea because everybody likes to ponder things that might have been.

      • hq8

        yea its kinda shocking given that Friedman did a piece on how crazy the Preds were on getting to Jones and he implied that they had it sort of planned out…….

  • Dez Bryant

    I wish Maclean would stay with the same line-up on Sunday. They were the first team to outplay and outshoot San Jose this season. It was luck and couple of mistakes that cost them.

    • Alcatraz

      luck is focussing to much puck posession stats, which is the new buzz term in the NHL. although winning that battle correlates to good fortune, but we got beat up 5-2. Call it luck or mistakes, but tahts just a poor game. Could it have been different? sure. But we deserved to lose

      • hq8

        yup, dont see how it can be claimed that sens outplayed SJS while losing 5-2. i think people are forgetting that the sens have an old malaise of outshooting their opposition from the perimeters and still losing the game eventually. perimeter shots dont make for dominant play.

        • Tooks

          Exactly, Stalock and Andersen didnt really have to do much to get those wins. Andersen maybe did a little more but still too many shots from the perimeter…

          • hq8

            you know those are still good teams. the best example of sens ‘dominating’ and still shitting was the Edmonton game. This was a game where a team on a long losing streak with Dubnyk who was almost done-done in EDM were given new life thanks to the senators mistake-prone game-play. while making our starting goalie look subpar we made edmonton’s look like a matured starter again and their subpar D was made to look like it could actually hold up…..
            the sens need a jolt because they are floating in la-la land. the players only meeting is a good sign, but chicago is another tough test now. we cant even look at the opposing team playing consecutive nights as an advantage anymore because its actually a joke against the sens now.
            just pathetic…..there is something still with this team that needs to leave because they have to get rid of this ‘last bad habit’ of looking and being complacent.

    • Tooks

      Are you still BFF with Romo?

      • LeafsSux

        Oh snap!!!

  • aegiszx

    While we’re on the topic of the Hawks/Sens.

    I follow both teams, and one thing that impresses me about the Hawks organization is the amount of effort they’ve put in to marketing the team. They have a TV series that follows the team through-out the season, and I must say, it’s done pretty well… You get real good insight into the lives of not only players, but management, coaches, and families. Mind you, the Hawks arent the only team to air their own in-house series, the West coast teams, Edmonton, Pittsburgh does as well…

    I really think Eugene should consider an approach like that to marketing the team.

    • Tooks

      Well maybe the new Marketing guy can get into this? But with the Rogers 22 people probably tasked to film it, lol, its probably gonna resemble a messed up school project…

      • Alcatraz

        It will just be depressing to watch the Sens eat Ramen noodles for their pregame meal, with the tight budget….

        • aegiszx

          Not gonna lie, I laughed LOL depressing as ff

  • Hax

    I like the idea of including more rumors and more random stories. I do think it’s important for this site that you keep it somewhat separate so that people don’t think you’re trying to spread rumors to get hits etc.

    And since I have my feedback hat on, I would love it if the links in your posts were built to open a new tab instead of leave your site. The best way to ruin a solid Chirp post is when I click on a link and see Garrioch or Brennan’s face. Can’t click “back” fast enough.

    • Alcatraz

      best case, is instead of left clicking the link, right click it and “open in new tab”

      • SensChirp

        I usually do have it set to open in a new window. Forget to check the box on that one!

    • Kohlmanator

      Click with the wheel of your mouse and it will open in a new tab.

      • Hax

        Thanks for all the advice folks, but was more commenting on my laziness and the huge drop from “Chirp quality” to the Ottawa Sun.

  • Miguel

    Interesting times indeed.
    Early in the season, and already a players only meeting.
    Top Stars EK and Spezza frustrated with poor play.
    PM already telling media next step is players are leaving.
    Attendance dropping
    So we can all stay optimistic and say all the positive things, but the reality is this team is far from its expectations, and if things do not change BM and PM will be making changes.
    IMO the biggest issues right now:
    - MM9 is invisible – top paid player on the team, has played terribly, and he has never been threatend to leave Spezza on the top line…what message does this send
    - lack of defensive responsibilities, other than Methot who is playing amazing, no other D-man has the composure to retrieve the puck and hit the forwards with a good outlet pass
    - our bottom six is simply awful! They are terrible with and without the puck, offering little to no points, and providing little energy, and lacklustre effort.
    This third point to me is my most frustrating. We have many players down in Bingo that would do anything for a shot at the bottom six.
    One more interesting note, last year one of our Bottom six players were leading our team in goals with six, and PM had the nuts to sit him for the rest of the year.
    Also BM and PM thought Zibby was complacent in pre-season, and sent him down.
    Well PM, Smith, Greening, Condra, and MM9, are more than going through the motions, with their half ass play, and the attitude that they can never sit.
    Time to sit them and let someone who cares try to make a difference… again IMO

    • Jason

      I don’t like that you have Smith in this group. I think his play has been good so far this season, the only thing I’d like to see more of from him is toughness. I think overall the Sens are lacking toughness, nobody seems to be playing physical other than Neil, Methot and Cowen.

      • MrSkullhead

        Gryba has been physical, maybe more than both Cowen and Methot in the last few games he has played.

        • sprucesens

          I haven’t seen much from cowen. A couple maybe from gryba. But, I have hardly seen any hits from anyone on our team this year. D or F. Must be afraid of taking more penalties or something…

          • MrSkullhead

            Spruce has a good point… compared to years past, the hitting this year has been almost non existant.

    • Banger

      YES.

      Jim O’Brien would be far more productive than Pageau at the moment.

      Smith and Neil have had the most back door opportunities to pot goals but failed at every attempt. Sure they work hard the odd time, but if you’re making more than 1m a year, theres no excuse to flub nearly every opportunity you get.

      I like that we are playing more offensively this year than last, the growing pains are the defensive errors. They can be fixed.. There is nothing wrong with a players only meeting. Nothing wrong with Spezza or Karlsson being mad. In fact, the madder the better. Time for them to show some anger on the ice on a consistent basis.

      • karlsson65

        O’Brien has 1 point in 7 games in Bingo and is -4.

        • Banger

          Ah stat man I see. Pageau has 1 point in 8 games in Ottawa and is a -3.

    • Tooks

      Awesome! and get more penalties and watch as teams pile on the score on the PP! Great idea! Play with intensity not anger.

      • Banger

        Disciplined anger would be nice!

    • Sandy

      I’m not going to make excuses for this team as they have not been playing the way we know they can.. BUT they had a really brutal schedule to start the season.
      After tonight’s 12th game.. they will have played 6 games against the top teams in the NHL — most of those on the road.
      Could we not foresee this type of start? Those teams are not easy to beat. And if you don’t get off to a good start and get the first goal.. then you play catchup all night and can’t get your game going. That is what has happened to this team. Some players trying to do too much instead of sticking to the game plan…

      • hq8

        is it a given that when you play these “top” teams on the road, that you give up the first goal? i mean is that standard fare? just how it is? there is something stopping the senators from getting a good start and getting the first goal?
        i dont see why there should be an apologist excuse for a team which itself has raised the expectations.

  • Jason

    I’ve always been a Condra fan but I was at the last game vs San Jose and he did not play well at all. He’s always praised for being a fast skater with great defensive skills but I didn’t really see too much of that. The turnover in his own end on the 4th goal was brutal. It’s not like he’s bringing any offensive aspect to the team so if he’s not doing good defensively why have him in the lineup. I think he should be benched for a couple games in favor of Pageau.
    Pageau is just as fast as Condra and he does have an offensive side to his game, and even though he is a small player (smaller than Condra) he is not afraid to go in the corners and throw his weight around. I don’t think i’ve ever seen Condra throw a body check, he bumps into other players gently at best.

    • Miguel

      completely agree with you, I too have always admired Condra, but his year he has played very poorly,

    • Conor_smythe

      What are you talking about?!?

      According to advanced stats, if we cloned Condra 21 times, we would win the stanley cup every year

      • Tooks

        Impossible, cant score, cant win. Teams would eventually beat us in SO all the time!! LOL

        • Conor_smythe

          according to advanced stats, scoring doesn’t matter

          as long as we get more shots, we will win games

          • Alcatraz

            Tongue in cheek I get it, but clearly your missing the point with advanced stats. Probably not even worth the time to exlpain to you.
            Put it this way, If Anderson had a .900 svp% and Ottawa gave up 25 shots tonight does that automatically mean we will give up 2.5 goals?

            If we score 3 goals and lose 4-3 will you say “But stats said we would only give up 2.5!!!”

          • Conor_smythe

            Let me run the numbers again….

            I see what you did wrong

            you are forgetting the most important advanced stat of all:

            Luck!

            If you factor luck into your equation, advanced stats never lie

          • hq8

            hey, dont disrispeck the condra, he had good chances short-handed and thats miraculous.

      • Guest

        AHA! but you are forgetting the most important advanced stat of all:

        Luck!

        If you factor luck into your equation, advanced stats never lie

  • Tooks

    If the poor play continues and Karlsson gets the brunt of the hate by media (which he should as he’s arguably our best player and responsible for alot of the poor play). I have a feeling Karlsson will either request a trade or play out his contract and leave.

    Some one hit the nail on the head about Karlsson not liking they way the Sens Org handled the Alfie thing.

    • SensChirp

      The timing of the Karlsson criticism is baffling to me. I thought the game on Sunday night was the best he has looked since the injury.

      • hq8

        who is criticizing him though? is it the same people who thought Bobby Ryan was fat? if so, he needs to learn how to tune out the noise.

        • Conor_smythe

          if only Karlsson knew what most people think about Media, he wouldn’t care so much what Media thinks about him

      • Tooks

        Well we all know he’s always going to get his points, thats not an issue, the issues is his poor decision making and most recently his lack of awareness & lack of intensity thats costing us victories. Mike Green used to be the Best Off D-man until teams figured him out. Sure he gets his points too but is moslty a liability on Def now. Karlsson falling into the same mold. He needs to correct this…yesterday!

        • Alcatraz

          Why does he need to correct this? Why can’t he just be himself on the ice. When he is himself, he is untouchable. Now we want him to focus on being something different
          Its no different then putting someone like Zibanejad on the 4th line, or DaCosta on the 4th line. They aren’t gunna produce if you make them do something they aren’t naturally fit to do
          When karlsson foccuses on speed and passing and offense, the Defensive work follows as an automatic result

          • hq8

            yup and right now the guy is infact trying to do too much.

          • Tooks

            I would agree with you IF he was 100%, he cleary aint. He’s struggling to do the things he used to do very well…because of the injury. He’s creating offense, sure, but he’s also creating more for the opposition by trying to hard. Its simple, dont take so many risks IF you cant get back, especially for Karlsson as he is usually the last man back.

      • ZibbyFan

        I think he was trying to take too much on his shoulders by trying to do too much. I think he’ll find his happy medium with a little more experience. This is his 1st year without the Alfie mentorship program after all, and he is still very much a kid!

    • thepez

      Here is what James Gordon wrote about the short handed goal against the Sens by San Jose.
      “Karlsson appeared to concede the goal, coasting back while Couture put a nice deke on Anderson. Except Anderson made the initial save and was left to watch helplessly as the puck sat in the blue paint, just out of his reach.”
      So is this the hate you talk about? If I’m Karlsson I ask for James Gordon immediate firing!. What a load of crap. He was lazy on the play and should have busted his ass back after turning over the puck, Norris or no Norris trophy. There is not a star player in the NHL that has not been criticized in the media, by the media or by the coaches.
      Spezza would have left years ago if he read and took to heart everything written about him. As someone said earlier, it’s time for EK65 to grow up and grow a pair.

    • Sandy

      I just hope Alfie didn’t fill Karlsson’s head with a lot of…. it’s much better Detroit than Ottawa because you are not bothered by the media..

  • SensFanInMTL

    Seth Jones? We all know Murray would’ve picked up Monahan. I like Turris. But the thought of having Monahan and we could’ve got him but didn’t?

    Kill me in a burning fire. Nao.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bg1SLCYmLw

    • Alcatraz

      Turris is much better than Monahan

    • Tooks

      Yeah, he’s def out to a hot start for sure, would of loved him here too! Could def use him instead of Michalek!

  • Senators Pundit

    I have a feeling it’s all going to turn around with this new line-up. These are the lines we have all been waiting for since we picked up Ryan and Macarthur this summer.

    Last year’s first line is now essentially our second line (subbing in macarthur for silf), and the skill on our first line is just scary.

    My hope is increased puck possession will make the odd defensive mistake less glaring, and take some pressure off Karl, so he doesn’t think he’s responsible for every play.

    Some puck luck might help too, and we are certainly due.

    It’s happening boys and girls, just keep the faith.

  • Hax

    Baffling to me that people still think Karlsson can’t play defense. Yes, on that goal he didn’t backcheck like he should have (and by the way like he usually does). But he’s even throwing his body around now.

    To simplify for some of you: Think of it like a video game where you can set a guy’s balance between defense and offense. You’d see Condra all the way to the defensive end of the slide and Karlsson/Spezza at the other offensive end. This isn’t skill I’m talking about but more “focus”.

    Karlsson is one of the better defenders in the league except he’s not asked to do that often. He’s asked to spend 2 full minutes on the power play, lead the rush, carry the puck, distribute etc.

    YES – he needs to relax about the media and YES he probably needs to adjust his focus sometimes closer to the defensive end than offensive. But to get all panty-bunched about him being liability or even worse to suggest he’s going to want a trade is ludicrous.

    • xN1Cx

      Hallelujah!

    • Tooks

      Sure it is ludicrous, probably wont happen but I wouldnt be surprised is all…
      And IF I would have said we would only have 4 wins in 11 games to start the season, you would say that I was ludicrous then too.

  • Hax

    And for the love of sanity people, Seth Jones was never on the table. Once he fell to 4th Nashville wanted him ahead of trading the pick for Turris. And to suggest Monahan is better than Turris (today) is equally insane.

    Lord help us.

    • Tooks

      Hard to say for sure but Monahan is a huge reason the Flames have a winning record!!! That alone puts him over Turris for me!! LOL
      Turris is also a huge reason we are not 2-9 but rather 4-5-2, on a better team…

  • hq8

    before this season, some people were saying that the last two seasons were greatly helped by Andy being lights out but that his regression was beckoning.
    i dont want to believe that.
    but the sample size 11 games in suggests that this may be Andy’s down year. the sens were stingy in GA last year, but were also giving up a lot of shots: 31/Gm (23rd in the league). this year they are at 36/Gm. for a truer comparo, over 82 games in 2011-2012 they gave up 32SA/Gm good for last in the league.

    • Sandy

      Could Andy’s stats have anything to do with the crappy play of the defense in front of him? The defense did not play this bad last season. Maybe they should have kept Benoit. He is playing really well in Colorado..

      • hq8

        yea definitely the defense looks pretty crappy. very complacent in clearing the zone or getting the puck out. oh and bad pinches, particularly cowen.
        but like i mentioned, the SA #s have been bottom 10 in the league the last two seasons while our goalie has led goalie stats in SV% and GAA.
        even though there has not been a major material change to the sens D, except for Gonchar.
        so maybe the crappy D play was always there as evidenced by the SA/gm #, but maybe its the goaltending that has now matched it to finally result in a bad product.
        again, it may be too early, but i have to say, Andy has not looked like he did last season, even after coming back from injury.
        all in all, there are things that again if not fixed (by themselves or by coaching/mgmt) could result in all the progress from the last two years evaporating really fast. e.g.: sens let gonchar walk and didnt make any offseason D acquisition primarily because they judged Cowen, PW46 and Gryba to be mainstays this season (i know melnyk probably had a hand, but thats another topic). But if Cowen and PW46 play shit, then what does that mean for the sens organizational defensive depth. These two were supposed to give us a solid 2nd pairing, and its not happening or its not happened yet.

    • Jacques

      I don’t understand the non use of Lehner , the guy stops 95 of 100 pucks in 2 games and hasn’t been used since, especially when Anderson has looked shaky as hell.

  • Tooks

    LOL anyone check out the Metro division….only 1 team above .500!! PIT!
    Alot of sucky teams, PIT gonna claim that div for the next 15 years!

  • spezzerman

    Karlsson wants to be traded and Monahan is better than Turris. Owner drove alfie out of town cause he is cheap while 10, 000 tickets have gone unsold so far this season. Worst fanbase in the league.70 + games to go here people. Chill out.

  • NickofTime

    Turris is turning into quite the player for Ottawa, I assume it’s safe to say that he will eventually become the #1centre when Spezza retires or at some future point when his skills begin to diminish. We have seen it with Lacavalier no longer being a #1 centre & like Vinny it doesn’t mean Spezza can’t still contribute to the team’s success.
    Still hoping this is the week Pageau gets sent back down to Bingo, he has done nothing yet this yr to warrant staying in Ottawa. Maybe they are waiting for Stone to get off the injury list before sending Pageau down & bringing Stone up. Hope it happens soon, this team needs more size, muscle, grit & toughness in their lineup, they are just too easy to play against. A minor deal for an agitator of sorts wouldn’t be a bad idea either, Kyle Clifford would be a nice pickup.

  • Hax

    From the morning skate in Chicago:

    9-19-6
    16-7-93
    89-15-25
    14-57-22

    3-65
    77-2
    4-46

    No indication on starting goalie yet (though looks like Crawford for Chi)

    • Tooks

      Alright, looks good! Except for MM9 on top line…Hopefully Zbad shows up now that he has his shot in the top 6.

      Here’s hoping Lehner starts!

    • xN1Cx

      Wow – Corvo on the second pairing. Let’s hope Cowen took something away regarding his play from behind closed doors and helps anchor this pairing. They might need each other right now…some toughness and a stretch pass combined.

      I can’t wait to watch tonight. Go Sens Go!

      PS – still want to see Andy. Show his draft team a thing or two!

      • Sandy

        Cowen & Weircioch should not be playing as a tandum together.. They are better to learn and develop while playing with a veteran D. But for Cowen no way should it be Corvo.
        If the Sens didn’t have an Owner with no money to spend.. maybe they could have gotten a top 4 D or at least someone better than Corvo..

        • xN1Cx

          I agree – but still the best option considering Cowen’s game. I’d rather see him pick up Corvo’s slack as opposed to Big Rig. Considering the 6 guys on the back end PMAC wants to use – I can’t see a better combination than this.

  • SensFanInMTL

    So what’s this buzz around town about Karlsson wanting to be dealt with? Someone please elaborate. If news are false, GTFOH. If true, we’ll accommodate you with a one way trip to Boot Hill and receive equal if not, more value. We have no time to spend on stars wanting out of the nation’s capital. We witnessed it with moron Heatley and watched our former captain walk out (UFA status and his own choice) and we will not go through anymore bullshit again. Point finale.

    • hq8

      actually, we have already been going through BS: its the first 11 games of the sens season.

      • MrSkullhead

        From everything out there that I have read it’s just fans reading too much into King K’s statement regarding the media.

    • Alcatraz

      I know this will be surprising, but Sens fans and Media have taken a small item and blown it way out of proportion

      Crazy thought eh!!

      • SensFanInMTL

        Yes.

        Not putting anything into what happened with the media yesterday about flipping off. He just spoke the usual and slipped the F bomb. Big fuck. There was no mention of being asked to be traded, just frustration that built up from the last few games. The meeting this early into the season is Spezza stepping from a vocal standpoint and the team will benefit from this.

    • Sandy

      People were reacting to one comment in a bigger interview… that’s about it..

  • hq8

    i guess slicing karlsson’s ankle was not enough for the league last year. they are straight out breaking ankles now: first scuderi now giordano.

  • Alcatraz

    Yes the West games are important but consider this:

    2-0-1 against the Atlantic Division
    1-0-0 against the Metropolitan Division
    0-0-0 against the Central
    1-5-1 against the Pacific

    The only point we have given up to any direct playoff rival, is the 1 point we blew in Toronto in game 2 of the season

    • hq8

      one of those western teams was edmonton. and two of those western teams played us on back-to-backs with their backups!
      so really it should have been:
      2-0-1 against Atl – although giving up the 2 goal lead to toronto ….yea
      1-0-0 against Metro – weak NJD team that cant get much going
      0-0-0 against central
      4-2-1 against Pacific – the league gave the sens a gimme with Edm, plus SJ and Ana on back-to-backs, it was on a plate, they pissed all over it and then took a dump on it for good measure.
      hell a 2-4-1 would still have been better if they could have beaten Edm, but no….
      i think the schedule and level of opposition theory is moot because of the circumstances, fact and the manner in which they lost to Edmonton at home.

    • Sandy

      Interesting stats there…

      The Sens have never done well in Cali… and that’s been proven again this season. Only 1 game to play against LA at home.. then they are done..
      The Sens should have won that game in Toronto. 5 on 5 they had the score to do it.. but gave Toronto 6 PP’s and they scored 2 goals to tie it… and that’s that.
      If I hear that fucking (excuse the language) Shawn Simpson again say the Sens don’t have the players to play a fast uptempo game I’m going through the radio.
      He says the Sens will have to address that. I really would like to ask him…. how they would go about doing that… when the Sens have an Owner without finances to properly invest in a team… and I don’t want them to give away any more draft picks or prospects.
      The thing is.. the Sens in the offseason could have given Mason Raymond a tryout to get to a top 6 with all having good NHL experience. But then again… the Owner won’t spend.

      So they have what they have.. It should be good enough. They proved to me in that Detroit game the kind of team they can be…

      • boom

        No offense Sandy, but if you think the reason the Sens didn’t go aftr Raymond was budget related, you are out to lunch. He was on a PTO – would have cost squat.
        I’m tired of everyone bitching about the budget – ignoring the fact that they went out and got Ryan and MacArthur…

  • Millennium

    I see the fanbase continues its struggle with schizophrenia. We win a few games and Kassian is a leader and we have one of the best top 6 in the league ; we lose a few and we should either blow it up or bench the whole team for AHLers.

    Now obviously those are different people posting such things, but damn does this fanbase flip-flop harder than a cruise-liner full of politicians.

    • Miguel

      yes some comments do go overboard, however the team flat out has been sucking at home games, and I for one have a hard time shelling out over $200 to watch some of these millionaires going through the motions.
      Many on here are very knowlegdeable and are calling out some of the floaters on this team quite accurately, and so if they are playing like crap, then I do not mind people discussing it, rather than ignore it alltogether like in cities where they could not care less about the their team.
      Passion is much better than not caring

      • Millennium

        I wasn’t implying that we shouldn’t care or debate the best ways to fix the team’s problems. I’m simply commenting on the ridiculous extremes the opinions swing to after a win compared to after a loss (or a few).

  • lbernier

    Expected Lineup for tonight, I am hearing rumblings though that we should expect Anderson back between the Pipes:

    Michalek-Spezza-Zibanejad
    MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
    Conacher-Smith-Greening
    Condra-Grant-Neil

    Karlsson-Methot
    Weirchoich-Cowen
    Corvo-Phillips

    Anderson
    Lehner

    Scratches: Kassian, Gryba, Pageau

    This is not official just the projected lineup so far. Pageau did not have a good game so it is expected that he will come out, and Sens want to keep size in the lineup so i think they give it to Grant on the 4th line.

    If I were the coach I would scratch Greening, Condra and bring up Hoffman and Robinson to send a message to those guys honestly, they have been just horrible.

    • Millennium

      Don Brennan ‏@SunDoniB1h

      Looks like
      Methot-Karlsson,
      Phillips-Wiercioch,
      Cowen-Corvo
      appear to be the D-pairings #sens

      Don Brennan ‏@SunDoniB1h

      Ryan-Spezza-Michalek,
      Zibanejad-Turris-MacArthur,
      Conacher-Smith-Neil,
      Greening-Grant-Condra
      are lines at morning skate #sens

    • Jacques

      Not crazy about that lineup! Bottom six will get eaten alive. I like Gryba in the lineup instead of Corvo(he sucks!). Let our young D-man learn on the job. He was fine last year! I like his physical presence.

    • lbernier

      well I was correct just that had the pairings messed up but I was correct on the players dressing tonight which I was pretty confident in from what I read.

    • Sandy

      Instead of sitting Pageau in the box watching the games.. why not send him to Binghamton where he will play top minutes? This is still a young player that needs to develop.

  • my2sens

    Glad to see same lineups. Build some chemistry and get the season going.

    Also glad to see Anderson between the pipes, show him we haven’t given up on him. Although, I would like to see Lehner in at some point soon to keep active.

    GO SENS GO!!!!

    3-1 Sens (EK65, Corvo and MM9)

  • Jason

    If my math is correct, which I can’t guarantee it is, the Sens have had 30 goals scored against them so far and Spezza is -5 with 11 points. That means he’s been on the ice for 16 goals against. As the team captain he needs to lead by example and play a better 2 way game.
    Pretty much the same thing goes with Karlsson, he has 10 pts and is -4. Way too many goals being scored against our top offensive players.

    • PraiseAlfie11

      Might have something to do with always spotting the opposing team 1 or 2 goals to start with?

    • Alcatraz

      A few things lol
      1- Ottawa have surrendered 32 and scored 30
      2- Even strength which is where +/- counts, Ottawa scored 22 and let up 20
      3- Spezza has 9 Even Strength points. So your -5 brings him to 14 goals against, but we know Ottawa have given up a short handed goal so actually he has been on ice for 13 even strength goals against.
      4- Spezza has points on 9 of Ottawa’s 22 Even strength goals. for 41% production.
      5- One step further, Spezza is just a high event player like we all know. he has been on the ice for 22 of 42 even strength goals scored, roughly 50%

      • Alcatraz

        Secondly, I agree you want them to play a better 2 way game, but at the same time, if yur gunna punish them for their two way game, then same thing can be said about how they account for almost 50% of our production at evens. Where are the other 3 lines?

  • lbernier

    For the people that are putting Joe Corvo down, I have to disagree I think he has been one of our most steady defenseman out there, he has made a couple mistakes but right now he has been a guy that has produced when he plays and has been pretty solid in his own end. For the people saying he sucks I guess you have not watched a Sens game this year yet lol.

    • Jacques

      Corvo is like a chicken with its head cut off out there. PLus he can’t move anybody off the puck around the net.

  • Tooks

    We have to do a much better job when back ups are in, no excuses, thats gonna be 3 straight now, got to get pucks at the net, yes this aint a rookie back up but its a back up nonetheless…

    • boom

      That’s it exactly. We can rationalize all we want about having had to face all the top teams in the west, but since everyone acknowledges that goaltending is the most important postion, we have to admit that we have faced these teams at their most vulnerable…not to mention playing the (at the time) weakest goalie in the league on one of the weakest (at the time) teams in the league (Dubnyk/Oilers)
      I’m still confident, but admittedly, most of my confidence is a result of how this team played LAST season, and not this one.

    • Jacques

      I agree but we haven’t been playing our best goalie either!

  • SensChirp

    In case you guys missed it the other day- Thanks to an offer from Websim Hockey, we’ve been set up with some free registrations for their hockey simulator. Four leagues filled up already and a 5th underway.

    To find out how you can register, head here.

    http://senschirp.ca/contests/exciting-offer-websim-hockey/

    • s3nsfan

      Can’t wait for our league to start, looks like a great site.

      • SensChirp

        Are we in the same league?

        • s3nsfan

          yes sir!!!

    • Mitchell

      can’t wait im in wsh_0249.. moving quiet slow with the city selections though

      • SensChirp

        Same league as me. See you in there!

        • Mitchell

          nice! just waiting on someone so i can select my city! nice touch chirp to the Beers!

  • lbernier

    The NHL is simple. If you dont get secondary scoring you are not going to win games. Right now we are not getting the secondary scoring we need. We need to get more out of it. Period end of story. It seems nights where we get secondary scoring like last game Methot and Karlsson, our big guys Ryan, Spezza, Michalek, Turris are not producing. We need goals from out top 2 lines and we need goals from our bottom two lines. This is not happen and hence why we cant get back in the games when we go down 1-0 or 2-0 early.

    • sprucesens

      that’s because we have, condra, greening, grant, smith, neil in the bottom 6 right now. I think the max any of those players have seen is 17 goals in a year, and that was greening playing with spezza for most of the year. Time to start upgrading from within, and producing 3 scoring lines, just like the best teams in the league always have.

  • MethotToMyMadness

    I’m very pumped for this game today. We don’t watch as many of the Western teams and out of all the teams in the West, the Hawks are probably my fav. I like the way they play, using the quick transition and high flying offensive style. It’s a lot like the Sens (when they are on their game). I don’t think the Sens have a great record against Chicago, but records are meant to be broken.

    I assume Chicago have the betting odds in their favor, but I really think this game will be closer than expected. Get this win tonight boys, finish off October at .500 and get it rolling in Nov. Go Sens Go!!!

    • Sandy

      I think the last time the Sens beat the Hawks was in 2010…

  • Hax

    Gord Miller on Twitter:

    From an NHL GM on the importance of elite players: except Col (01) the last 15 SC winners have had at least 1 player drafted in the top 5.

    —–

    FWIW, Sens have:
    Philips (1st overall), Spezza (2nd), Ryan (2nd) and Turris (3rd).

    Honorable mentions to Michalek (6th), Zibanejad (6th) and Cowen (9th).

    • SenaWalrus

      Yeah, but how many teams currently have a top 5 drafted player on their team? If it’s 95%, then this stat is meaningless.

      Col in ’01 had a #6 pick on their team, so it’s a pretty arbitrary line.

      Reminds me of the big thing back in the day about how only teams with Canadian captains won the cup… until Hatcher & the Stars won… but that was also a dumb stat since up until the 90s the majority of teams had Canadian captains…

      • Hax

        Totally agree. 23 players on your roster, statistically speaking, you should expect to have 3 or 4 drafted in the top 5 on average. Of course some teams have more so others would have less. But to win a cup without one would be pretty rare.

        Not to mention there are tons of players that were drafted later that turned out to be much better. Not as much as today with Euro scouting etc I guess.

  • MethotToMyMadness

    Chirp, I like the idea of the Daily Chirp at the bottom of each post. It’s kinda like the small tidbit of info you get on the bottom of each page of the Bathroom Reader. I can see those details sparking some good conversation.

    • SensChirp

      I think so too. I think it will be tough to come up with one every day but I have a few options ready to go. I suspect not all of them will be of equal interest but hopefully all be at least somewhat interesting.

  • WaitingSince92

    A lot of people talking about Paul MacLean and how he said that if they don’t improve, the next step is people start getting shipped out.

    I trust Paul and Bryan with this task, but I’m a little worried because it doesn’t seem like you can pin our woes on any one or two (3, 4, 5 etc) players.

    Wondering who people think we would ship out. I’m guessing Michalek. He’s got a pretty amazing skill set, and at his best, he’s a fast, strong, threatening two way player. He just hasn’t been producing and we have given him plenty of chances.

    Keep in mind this is all coming from a huge Michalek fan. I love his game and I defend him pretty much any time someone shits on him… but as it stands now, he’d be my first pick to send packing, between the lack of production and the relatively high trade value.

    • sprucesens

      PM’s comment was that body’s might be moved. That doesn’t necessarily
      mean traded. Could mean benched, or AHL bound. Just don’t go starting
      rumours like the media does. Having said that, i love trade talk!!

  • Wayne Martell

    It seems that most teams we play are starting their backup goalies….just saying

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    NHL reports that Mika will play with Ryan and Spezz. Milo is demoted. We’ll see, Mac changes things pretty quickly. Michalek needs to be better.

    • SensChirp

      Who said that?

    • Hax

      Trust Chirp above all others!

      Even TSN1200 today kept saying that “MacArthur will take the spot of Pageau or Kassian” when in actuality both of those two sit and Grant plays.

      • SensChirp

        Well mostly just trust the countless reports from the morning skate but I’ll take the pat on the back whenever I can get it!

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    I really really want the Sens to win tonight :/

  • Mr Hockey

    3-1 Sens. Spezza gets two, Zibby gets 1 and some shmuck from the other team will get 1. Andy with like 45 saves.

  • Andersonfan40

    Just a qeustion just wondering is it one of these down seasons for Anderson or will
    he turn it around?

    • Mr Hockey

      I think I heard it’s one of those seasons he’ll turn it around.

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      I heard he is #11th in the league with a .920 save percentage

  • Sicilian
  • MikeS

    pretty decent start

  • MikeS

    well that was fast

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Chris Neil ……………………………………………………………….

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    The day Chris Neil leaves the Sens, will be the day the team will get exponentially better.

    • aegiszx

      Testicles; Something you should grow, something an NHL team should have, and needs to make a playoff push. And before you throw in how talented teams only win, the Pittsburgh Penguins’s 13′ playoff run would suggest otherwise.

      Chris Neil is all grit, and heart.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Just tuned in late, from an ultimate playoff game, which we owned. Caught a penalty by Neil, and a goal. Looks like they are picking up right where they left off? How was the first 7 minutes?

    • MikeS

      they were playing decently well b4 the goal/penalty, kind of even

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Is Chris Neil really an NHL player? Discuss.

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      Yes. He plays right wing for the Ottawa Senators

      • jasonontheoldsenschirp

        How.

        • Mexican Baby Jesus

          He signed a contract 2 or 3 seasons ago

          • jasonontheoldsenschirp

            LOL.

  • MikeS

    This is reminding me of the sharks game, outshooting Chi but no real great chance to score, and mental breakdowns killing us

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    snipe.

  • MikeS

    yay

  • Aaron 2.0

    Nice goal. From what i’ve seen in the last 12 minutes, we’d be lucky to get out of this period tied. Way too many mistakes still.

    • SensChirp

      Think you might be looking for mistakes rather than positives. Senators played a pretty good period.

      • Aaron 2.0

        I missed the first 7 minutes. Can’t really agree with you for the last 13 minutes.

        • Conor_smythe

          Ottawa had as many “&couldve been a goal” moments as Chicago

          • Aaron 2.0

            I sort of got jumped on for my comment. So, i’ll step back a bit from the cliff. The offensive puck possession was great. But, as MikeS said, still too many mistakes defensively. That’s why I felt they were lucky. Chicago is another team that will take advantage of these things. But, yeah, you’re right, Chicago had their own issues too.

      • MikeS

        They are playing like they did vs SJ imo, played hard but way too many mistakes

        • Aaron 2.0

          Agree 100%.

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      Apart from Chris Neil being a knucklehead, the Sens actually played well.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Lots of shots will be key. khabibulin is no longer a good goaltender. Huge advantage for us there tonight.

  • Conor_smythe

    I have a daily chirp !

    The Sens are interested in Yandle and Goligoski

    • SensChirp

      Go onnnnn?

    • MikeS

      Sens are interested in any competent top 4 d

      • Conor_smythe

        Born in the 1985-1988 range. With superior point scoring ability. And legs. To play with cowen

  • SensFanInMTL

    Hawks are a dangerous team. But let’s not be biased for a second just because the Sens are our team. But whatever was said in that meeting, they all took it to heart. The fact that we can be tied with the Hawks and played so damn well against the Cup defending Champs, any other team, we would be leading now. That’s just how good Hawks are and how damn hard we just played that period.

  • karlssens

    Great shot by Michalek.. Wouldn’t see many players bury those.

  • MikeS

    Well Chi commentators seem to think ottawa carried the play this period

  • MikeS

    This is the first game in a while where the sens mistakes havent been biting them

    • Tooks

      Just look at Karlsson for last CHI goal…

      • MikeS

        I spoke and this happened…..

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Karl’s game is back on point. Back to his dominating self

    • Aaron 2.0

      Spezza is looking stronger every game too.

    • Tooks

      Umm not quite, he has to stop people from scoring…not going well.

  • MikeS

    what did karl drink today…..hes on fire

    • SensChirp

      Same damn thing he drank before the last game. Last two games have been his bets since the injury.

  • MikeS

    yay

  • SensFanInMTL

    Wow.

  • MikeS

    what the hell is cowen doing….

    • Colin

      What the hell was EK doing? At least Cowen was in his zone.

      • MikeS

        That is the worst played 2 on 1 I have ever seen.

        • Colin

          True

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      Not Cowen’s fault. Sens just can’t seem to keep their focus…

  • MikeS

    Cowen had no idea hossa was there. Chased the guy into the corner on a 2 on1

    • Aaron 2.0

      Poor line change starts the confusion I think.

      • MikeS

        This is what i was talking about in the first. They play well then make really bonehead plays that cost them

        • Aaron 2.0

          Yeah, spot on.

  • MikeS

    Yay :)

  • SensFanInMTL

    Can’t score more than 1 against Edmonton. 3 through 2 periods against the defending Cup Champs. This is awesome.

    • Aaron 2.0

      Haha. Well, some suspect goal-tending might be helping us out here. Anderson will get goal support tonight.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    That zone entry by Bobby Ryan was golden.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Now, it is absolutely mandatory that the Sens get the next goal. Can’t get complacent

    • Colin

      Zibby delivers!

  • MikeS

    The one game michalek does something, I have him on the bench in my pool….

  • SensFanInMTL

    1 G, 5 A – 6PTS in 7 GP for Corvo. Esti.

  • Colin

    Awww. Leave him in.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Mika continues to shit all over Paul Maclean and Bryan Murray.

  • SensFanInMTL

    #MikaFreed

  • MikeS

    Sens should change all their home starts till 8pm, its the only time they show up

  • Aaron 2.0

    Now that’s defense. Just don’t let them leave their zone!

  • SensFanInMTL

    We need to score 6 more to solidify the win and have more meetings. At least once a month meetings. Anaheim can then take their 30th overall pick and faire enculer avec!!!!

  • SensFanInMTL

    The refs are against us. They weren’t serious about giving us an easy win would they?

  • Aaron 2.0

    Offensive zone penalty …

  • MikeS

    um, 2 minutes for pushing?

  • MikeS

    That PP sooooo scary

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      Kane is scary…such a great puck handler

    • aegiszx

      You’d think so but the Hawks PP has been in the bottom 5 for a few seasons now…

      • MikeS

        I think they overhandle it too much

  • Colin

    Fanoof wants $50M over 7 years. Who does he think he is? Karlsson? :-)

    • SensFanInMTL

      Such a chode…. So overrated and is mediocre. Then again it is Toronto and they have the $ so. Sometimes anyway.

  • LeafsSux

    Cowen = Bench

  • Aaron 2.0

    More poor defensive coverage…

  • Conor_smythe

    Karlsson looked awful on that goal. He didnt even know toews was coming. He was watching the puck the whole time

    • 4thStringGoalie

      Second time tonight he did that. Anderson bailed him out on a Sharpe attempt. Cant understand how people think he is playing well, game after game he misses coverage and leads to a goal

  • Tooks

    Karlsson…again…sigh

  • Colin

    Sens are simply the best at hitting the goalie.

  • MikeS

    lol the d on the other side beat hossa to the other circle…LOL

  • LeafsSux

    This a freakin JOKE!!!

  • Tooks

    Well we might actually win a game vs a back up goalie! Do it up fellas!

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      If we win now it won’t be against a backup. Plus we play our back up almost every game

      • Tooks

        Umm yes we scored 4 vs Khaby, if we score 1 vs Crawford, we still won vs a back up…

        • Mexican Baby Jesus

          And if they win, it is against our back-up. We at least saw their starter

          • Tooks

            Didnt know Anderson was our back up?

          • Mexican Baby Jesus

            Well you’re right I should correct myself. He is our second best goalie

          • Tooks

            I agree!

    • MikeS

      If they still had khabby in we would be up 7,8-4

    • LeafsSux

      What game are you watching?

      • H POTTER

        Was about to ask the same. Either that or he’s using illegal substance..very frustrating to watch…

  • Tooks

    Leafs beating the damn Oilers in EDM…Why cant we beat the Oilers?!?!

    • Aaron 2.0

      Montreal won too… But TB lost!

  • MikeS

    If you grab the puck and throw it to your skate, then your teammate touches it, is it still a hand pass?

  • LeafsSux

    This team officially SUCKS!!!!!!!

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Lol. oh man.

  • SensFanInMTL

    Yup.

  • MikeS

    I want so desperately to believe in this team, but they just cant play a clean game.

  • Tooks

    Post…few!
    Whats wrong with Andy? Is he hurt?

    • LeafsSux

      No… He sucks

    • 4thStringGoalie

      If you cant trust your defence to take players or help you out you start cheating to try and take away shots and pass

  • Tooks

    Kessel 2G 1A vs EDM mid 2nd….sigh

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      Did you see his bad angle shot. Smokin

      • Tooks

        Nope just saw ESPN board.

  • aegiszx

    Wow… We actually blew a 4-2 lead…

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      Can’t wait to cheer for Toews and Keith in the Olympics! What a player

  • karlssens

    I’ve seen enough of Cowen and Phillips this game.

  • MikeS

    Last year we were winning with Methot, Gonchar, Weircoch, Gryba, Benoit and phillips. How can these D be possibly this much worse

    • Tooks

      Cuz they could skate, Cowen is slow as molasses!!!

    • WaitingSince92

      Never thought I’d say I’d KILL to have Benoit back on as our 6th D now. HA! Solid.

  • Mexican Baby Jesus

    On a positive note, I think Mika is having an excellent game

    • Tooks

      I agree he has. Gonna take a better effort if we are to comeback tho! Can the kid do it?

  • karlssens

    Shake it up Murray. This team is a joke defensively right now.

  • Kielbasa

    The motto for this team needs to be changed. Fearless. I don’t think so. Garbage. More fitting.

    The endless defensive brain farts and constant giveaways are quickly ending the season for this team. Murray; Maclean…DO YOUR JOBS AND RIGHT THIS $#@&ING TEAM. You’re going to see even more empty seats at CTC.

    How is it the talent depleted team of last year was so much more hard working, talented and sucessful?

    PATHETIC PATHETIC PATHETIC

  • karlssens

    Lmao, I can’t believe how bad this team is defensively

  • Tooks

    HAHA nobody wants to make a save or what!! lol

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      Does anything beat the sound of iron?

      • Tooks

        Yes the sound of victory…still waiting on that!

  • SensFanInMTL

    __

  • MikeS

    Imagine playing goal for this team, all these chances out of nowhere

  • H POTTER

    It’s like a junior team playing in the big league. I’m so freaking fed up right now. They’re playing line chicken without heads. Have no clue what’s going on, who go cover, who to hit, how to freaking clear the zone…and to all the fans keeping on claiming that they had a “brutal” start, that is bull.! you have a tough schedule. You step your damn game up. Loosing the way we did on the western trip is a sorry exhibition

  • MikeS

    Did you just see that neil pass?

  • SensFanInMTL

    We are playing against the Hawks afterall. The fact that we scored more than 2 against them is great. obviously the win would seal the deal.

    • Sensturion

      The Hawks haven’t been able to stop the puck from going in their net this year. Unfortunately, scoring goals against them means nothing. Even Hawks fans on the boards say that the team needs to score 5 or 6 goals to make up for the 4 or 5 they allow.

  • Tooks

    Close call…almost another Karlsson giveaway…

  • SensFanInMTL

    Time to play GTA now…..

  • Kielbasa

    Speechless. Sens…you are just plain old shit.

    Management and coaching need to flush now. And again…the coaching staff responsible for our defensive play need to be shown the door.

  • MikeS

    I just dont get it. This team was the #2 defensive team in the league last year…..WTF SENS

    • Tooks

      We aint last year no more!

      • MikeS

        That is very clear. I wasnt expecting to win this game, but the way they lost it…… They will not make the playoffs in this division

    • Sicilian

      Feels like Cowen and Karlsson are trying to do too much
      Greening and Cowen seem to be fighting the puck all the time

  • aegiszx

    See that boys? That’s why Toews (who averages like 50 pts a season) will never be left off Team Canada.

  • sprucesens

    bottom 6 outside of zack smith has had yet another atrocious game. The top 2 lines played great and gave us a good chance to win. The D played poorly again. When are they gonna learn to clear the rebounds? Karlsson had a very solid game though.

    • MikeS

      maybe offensively…

      • sprucesens

        and defensively. Neil had multiple giveaways that resulted in scoring chances. Condra and Greening no where to be found virtually all game. Grant nothing special in either direction.

    • Tooks

      Karlsson was the reason the Hawks went ahead. I wonder what he’s gonna say to the media this time.

      • sprucesens

        karlsson had a great game, and i only missed the tying goal. The rest of the D need to up it a notch. The 2 on 1 against cowen, and he goes for the hit on the player with the puck. That alone should be enough to get a benching for a few shifts. Its the exact thing they teach you NOT to do

        • Aaron 2.0

          I agree Cowen is struggling the most right now. But, Karlsson was his partner on that shift, and he wasn’t even in the defensive zone.

          • Tooks

            LOL exactky this, why was it a 2 on 1 in the first place…Mr K was looking from centre ice…

    • Aaron 2.0

      Karlsson did not have a good defensive game at all …

      • sprucesens

        every time i saw him have the puck, he was turning forcheckers inside out, and taking the puck up ice.

        • Kohlmanator

          He was great with the puck, it’s what he did without the puck that people are frustrated with.

  • lbernier

    that was disgusting if Sens wont put an effort in playing the whole game why bother watching them. I am going to stop watching till they decide to start playing some complete hockey tired of this shit every game.

  • Sicilian

    Disappointing, we let that one get away.
    You know though, I really think we’re heading in the right direction.
    Go Sens!

  • SensFanInMTL

    ??

  • karlssens

    I really hope they try to move Andy for ANY top 4 d man.. Anything is better than watching more Cowen/ Phillips..

    • sprucesens

      that would be great, but his like 4 GAA isn’t gonna get us much. More importantly, if lehner gets injured…then what. we aren’t trading a goalie unless a decent goalie comes back, and you aren’t getting a decent goalie and a top 4 for andy…

  • H POTTER

    So f***in speechless…sick in my stomach…this is so so ridiculous right now…how in the hell can we manage to suck this bad..and the worse damn thing about this right now is PMAC’s stoopid post game interview, with his bull crap quotes….

  • Aaron 2.0

    Well, really not much positives from this game for me. A plethora of defensive break-downs in all three periods eventually caught up to us. If it wasn’t for the spotty goal-tending, this game wouldn’t be close. I thought it looked like a carbon copy to the game against SJ. The next game won’t be any easier. NYI can score a lot of goals, and we don’t know how to play defense anymore.

  • Sensturion

    If I’m Maclean, I don’t give a damn about the fine and I bitch those damn refs THE FUCK OUT! Atrocious reffing! The amount of times the players were tripped and it went uncalled was ridiculous! Ottawa is currently 28th in the league in PP opportunities and the only reason we’re 28th is because we’ve played more games than 29 and 30. Something’s gotta fucking give!

    • Sensturion

      Wow lol I’m getting minuses for stating a fact!

      • sprucesens

        most of the time, yes the ref’s are awful, and there is no way the numbers for and against us should be so skewed. But not tonight. I didn’t once yell at the screen to call a penalty, nor did i see any that we got away with

        • Sensturion

          Michalek was tripped a first time in front of the net, no call. Luckily they caught it the next time. Spezza, same thing. Ryan was taken down behind the net and out of the play on Toews first goal. Grant got a tripping penalty for skating next to a guy who fell of his own accord.

          • sprucesens

            i saw the grant one, and from the one camera angle, yes it looks like he was just pushed and fell. but from the in game view, which is probably closer to what the ref saw, it looked like sticks were involved. I’m just saying, They certainly weren’t the reason we lost today. We were

    • Tooks

      Another one of the “blame ref” camp…sigh

      • Sensturion

        Oh, Ottawa shat the bed defensively, I never said they didn’t. HOWEVER, it could’ve helped alleviate some of the pressure if we get calls go our way once in a while.

  • LeafsSux

    Worse of all I have 3 sets of tics left to see these sorry asses play. Twice in Dec and once in Jan… 3.5 hr drive for this shit? FML

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    They just blew it. Simple as that. The team should have won, and didn’t. I think we could use another solid defensive defenceman on the blueline.

    • Tooks

      They shouldnt have won, a game is 60 minutes, Hawks played a full game, we didnt. Its a trend, we cant play a full game of hockey.

  • FSJ123

    yep, as expected, this is the STUPIDEST i’ve seen it in here, and i’m guilty of getting pretty damn stupid…

    • SensChirp

      I just don’t understand. It almost seems like the “fans” that post in here get more enjoyment out of a loss than after a win. Always far more active when there are things to bitch about.

      • FSJ123

        I know i’ve been bad in the past Chirp and i apologize, but seriously this is just beyond venting, this is ridiculous

        • SensChirp

          Nobody will ever mistake the readership around here for calm and level-headed, that’s for sure.

          • FSJ123

            think the fact that we have Habs and Leafs fans always calling us out makes us defensive…

      • Aaron 2.0

        There’s probably more to talk about when things aren’t going well. As long as people are respect to each other, I don’t really see the problem though. I think people had lots to say after the win against Detroit too!

      • hq8

        because a win brings peace to a sens fans heart, it helps with the smugness, the snobbiness, the holier-than-thou attitude. a loss on the other hand makes sens fans feel as if they are like the fan of every other NHL team.

      • LeafsSux

        How can you not vent? What are we supposed to say oh well we’ll get em next time?

        • SensChirp

          That would be ok with me, yes.

          • sprucesens

            that would be boring to read. lol

          • Tooks

            That just promotes losing is ok…

  • MikeS

    If the sens lose their next game they will probably get boo-ed off the ice, and they will deserve it

    • SensChirp

      And what is they win the game MikeS?

      • MikeS

        Then they will have earned a little respect back. The way they have been playing in their own zone is just pathetic

  • SensFanInMTL

    Ok. So let’s drive Karlsson out of town then. This city obviously has no problem in doing so.

  • SensFanInMTL

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    • Sensturion

      “Ew. What’s a girl doing in my room?” — Tyler Seguin

  • lbernier

    Next Game: Call up 3 forwards from Bingo (Hoffman, Da Costa, Prince), Call up Ceci too. Scratch: Greening, Condra, Weirchoich, Grant, Conacher,
    Dress: Hoffman, Da Costa, Prince, Ceci, Kassian

    Michalek-Spezza-Da Costa
    Ryan-Turris-Hoffman
    Zibanejad-Prince-MacArthur
    Kassian-Smith-Neil

    Karlsson-Methot
    Ceci-Cowen
    Corvo-Phillips

    Lehner
    Anderson

    need to send a message to certain players saying hey dont want to play then we will put players that want to play for the Ottawa Senators of the National Hockey League!

    • LeafsSux

      You would sit Wierchoich and play Cowen? Do you know anything about hockey or this team?

      • lbernier

        Wierchoich I counted 4 times tonight behind the net instead of playing it back to his partner threw it up the boards to the Blackhawks defenseman. If he were going to rip it out of the zone then ok but he just basically passed it to them. That is called a turnover. That is bad.

        • Tooks

          He cant rip it thats icing, clearing the puck out of the zone is better than a giveaway inside the zone a la Cowen or Karlsson.

          • lbernier

            rip it off the glass, instead he just flicked it up the boards not once not twice not 3 times but 4 times where the blackhawk player just had to wait for the puck to come to him. I am saying if you are in that position rip it off the glass or take a couple or play it back to your open partner behind the net. He made some bad decisions and the worse one was on the toews hattrick goal, he was telling his partner to cover the guy on his left, where Weirchoich took Toews, Turris came back to try and take Toews away where Weirchoich was standing there with his thumb up his ass….he was just horrible no argument over it. Tonight our best defenseman was either Methot or Corvo.

    • SensFanInMTL

      Your lines are horrendous. Zibby is a centre, put Prince on the wing man.

      • Tooks

        Zib was playing wing tonight bro.

        • SensFanInMTL

          Yes but he is a natural C whereas Prince is a winger. So…

          Prince – Zibby – MacArthur, as LeafsSux had it laid out.

          • lbernier

            Prince is a Centreman too lol so it does not really matter, the point is to put a Bingo player on each of the top lines to have someone that will work hard to motivate the others on that line

          • SensFanInMTL

            He is? Well in that case…..

            lbernier

            11 minutes ago

            Next Game: Call up 3 forwards
            from Bingo (Hoffman, Da Costa, Prince), Call up Ceci too. Scratch:
            Greening, Condra, Weirchoich, Grant, Conacher,
            Dress: Hoffman, Da Costa, Prince, Ceci, Kassian

            Michalek-Spezza-Da Costa
            Ryan-Turris-Hoffman
            Zibanejad-Prince-MacArthur
            Kassian-Smith-Neil

            Karlsson-Methot
            Ceci-Cowen
            Corvo-Phillips

            Lehner
            Anderson

            need to send a message to certain players saying hey dont want to
            play then we will put players that want to play for the Ottawa Senators
            of the National Hockey League!

          • Tooks

            I dont think rookies are a motivating factor to be honest. All they will be is overwhelmed.

  • Guest

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  • Heisenberg

    LOL wtf is wrong with the people around here, im looking at the comments now and when we were winning and its the same people who are being bi polar.
    we just played the defending cup champs for fucks sake, scoring 5 goals against them is actually amazing
    yes we had defensive zone breakdowns but it will get better, the boys are just starting off slow
    GO SENS

    • SensFanInMTL

      We can’t win games, bitch! JESSE!

      • Heisenberg

        gatorade me, bitchhhhh

        • SensFanInMTL

          I pay my rent. Bitch!

          • Heisenberg

            bitch, bitch !

    • Zorav

      this is the third time we can’t beat a team playing the second game of a back to back. ( In the case of San Jose, it hadn’t even been 24 hours till they touched ice again)…so for “fucks sake” …let people bitch about them.

  • SensFanInMTL

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  • Sensturion

    Neither team played well tonight. All three goalies (Crawford included) were guilty of poor play (In Crawford’s case, he was leaving juicy rebounds that Ottawa couldn’t capitalize on, à la everyone else we’ve played against this season). Neither team’s defence did anything worth mentioning which gave free rein to the forwards to score a lot.
    Last year our issue was up front, this year it’s the back end.

  • hq8

    well well…..another loss.
    atleast we scored 5 goals!!! ehh!!!!

    i think all three toews goals…..the sens were caught in sleep mode or he really is just that good. and i think thats the game. their captain said “fuck it, this is not going to happen under my watch. the sens suck at back to backs, especially against backups” and then he decided to fuck the sens over. btw, this is not a knock on our captain who did his part today.

    i dont understand how the sens let the hawks walk in so easily on the 4-3 and 4-4 goals.

    they again had a very hard time clearing the zone.

    also, can they just please sit Chris Phillips. the 5-4 goal was all him.

    chris neil…..i think the hate was universal today against him.

    colin greening – definitely the big contract cliche playing here. not good. a benching is required.

    andy – needs to get back to last year and fast.

    i dont know where this team goes from there…..they looked like they had the game wrapped at 4-2…….but a champion’s heart is a champions heart and it takes pure evil to shut it down. sens took it easy at 4-2 with 30 to go and it came to bite them. a lot of hard work went into getting to 4-2, but it was wasted much faster than it took to get there. its a pity.

    this team needs to get rid of chris phillips and chris neil for a start. enough is enough.

  • MikeS

    If they had of lost 2-1 or 3-2 in a normal game I think most people would be fine with it, but the way they have imploded is just sad

  • SensChirp

    Good news is they are through the toughest part of the schedule. There are no easy games in the NHL but there sure as hell are some tough ones and the Sens had a lot of them in the opening month.
    Need to get back home and get on a bit of a run.

    • Aaron 2.0

      Yup, next month is going to be very, very important if we’re going to get back into the playoff race. I don’t really see the teams in front of us in our division letting up all that much to be honest.

    • hq8

      the edmonton game was the easy one. i think you are underestimating league parity and the ability for any team to bite the sens in the ass (and bite hard at it) especially when the sens are upto their new antics. the same logic can be applied on the Ana and SJ home games. lets not apologize for these guys’ obvious shortcomings and complacency.

      as bad as colin greening has been, he was on the ice with the goalie pulled …..what was that about and what does that say to the Zibanejads, the Turris’, the conachers and the MacArthurs of the sens roster? Greening with the puck is like a chef with a live-grenade yet he gets put out there in that situation. ditto for Chris Phillips, his boneheaded move costs the sens the tie (5-4 goal) yet he gets put out there with EK65. i dont know if Chris Phillips is really anymore offensively gifted than the 4 other sens d-men other than Karlsson.

      this is just ridiculous. Maclean is a good coach, but he needs to evolve i think. other teams dont do this kind of stuff. Chicago, the moment they went down 4-2 starting throwing Toews out repeatedly and guess what happened?

  • thepez

    I’m not even going to bother reading the comments in here tonight.

    I wanted to see a higher coompete level and they brought that. They need to stop the unforced turnovers that they keep doing. Get the puck out of the zone. This team can compete with the best if they can only smarten up and tighten up in the defensive zone.

    Personally I think that tonight’s game in a weird way may be the turning point of the season.

  • WaitingSince92

    I imagine a dozen or so SensChirp readers, ready to cheers if we can tie it up, only to release an online tirade because we didn’t win.

    There were more glaring mistakes that cost us, but it might have been our best game aside from Detroit, and at least we looked dangerous (regardless of who was in net), unlike some other nights.

    Karlsson had two bad coverage errors, but he’s showing more and more of his old form every game. He rushed well, even through traffic, and created offense. I wouldn’t worry/complain too much about him. He’ll be in full form by mid season.

    I feel kinda bad for Colinvisible Greening. He just isn’t effective. He tries so hard, he’s fast and strong, yet just can’t seem to win any puck battles or score any goals.

    Condra wasn’t great, but better than the last few games. One really nifty play to feed Conacher in the slot near the end of the game.

  • lbernier

    What is making me mad is that these bad habits are not being corrected. Maclean wants to play a North South game. Neil must of drank so bad water, twice at the blueline he played it back towards his goalie and once right on the tape of a blackhawk. We need to crack the whip harder and get this team to crack down on playing harder to win games. I really think if we call some bingo players up and play a team that had no Cowen, Spezza, Michalek, Karlsson ect. And give those Bingo players a chance to play big roles. They will work hard and want to show the coach what they have. Time to do something like that as cracking the whip has not been working. Sure we were playing the Chicago Blackhawks but we had them and we need to shut them down when we have 2 goals. We needed to keep pressing but making sure we are back to shut down their opportunities. Something needs to happen with saying not going to play my system you can sit on the bench.

  • Sensturion

    The one thing we can all agree on however is Bryan Murray did a good job with free agent signings this summer! Ryan: 10 in 12, MacArthur 7 in 11, Corvo: 5 in 7. Gonchar? 1 in 12 and -4. Best 5 million dollars saved EVER

    • hq8

      yes, except he signed back future-trash long term in greening. and forgot to take out existing trash in phillips and neil.

  • Guest

    To Anaheim:
    Petersson & 2nd

    To Ottawa:
    Noesen

    To Flyers:
    Greening
    Condra
    Borowiecki
    3rd

    To Ottawa:
    Simmonds

    • Tooks

      Click….hello? oh they hung up…

    • MikeS

      And how is this going to fix the D-zone?

    • SensChirp

      ???

      • Conor_smythe

        I think he was going for ‘Hilarious’

    • Conor_smythe

      We scored 5 goals and allowed 6

      I say we need Defense more than 2 forwards

    • 4thStringGoalie

      Isn’t Noesen done for the season with a major knee injury?

  • 4thStringGoalie

    I don’t understand how people think Karlson is getting better or complain about Cowen so much. Game after game Karlson makes an obvious mistake (mistakes any junior player wouldn’t make) that leads to a goal. Coughs the puck up in front of his own net for game winner against Anaheim, lazy backcheck against San Jose that leads to a goal, not to mention losing guys going to the net behind him at least twice tonight including Toews hat trick goal. It’s been like this all season.

    There is no excuse for a former Norris Trophy winner and 6 million dollar player making so many mistakes game after game. How can a team only meeting help when the player that plays the most makes the most bonehead preventable mistakes on the team and is always causing goals?

    Maybe it is the injury however if we had that player we saw at the start of last year, one of the 3 or 4 best players in the league the team wouldn’t be in this state. I think his drop in play and the ripple affect that has on the team is the number one problem with this team right now. Their best player is no where close to playing like their best player.

    • SensChirp

      You’re watching Karlsson to see if he makes a mistake. Try watching a game looking for the good plays. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised. Far and away the best defenceman on the team and it’s not even close.

      • 4thStringGoalie

        Sure I am, but there are so many mistakes. Sharpe walked behind Karlson in the first or second and had to rely on Anderson to bail him out and makes the same mistake on Toews third goal. Does he not learn? He can’t just say, Sorry boys my bad….Don’t tell me the other guys on the team aren’t pissed at his constant mistakes.

        • SensChirp

          If any of the “other guys” are defenceman, I would suggest they take a long, hard look in the mirror before worrying about “mistakes” Karlsson is making.

          • 4thStringGoalie

            Ya maybe. There is 20 guys on a team and like everyone I have guys I always are more critical on then others. I’ve always been a Spezza supporter, where others have been critical of him where I don’t always believe the god hype of Karlsson. Except like I said at the start of last year when he was the best player in hockey.

      • FSJ123

        you mean he’s not a God? just a normal human? damn Murray should be fired for that, i’m 99% sure Murray thought he was a God

    • SensFanInMTL

      So what do you want to do? Trade him? The kid has in anguish with his achilles nearly torn off, recovers, and comes back earlier than expected. He busts his ass, he’s worn the Norris at 21 and he’ll be the team’s best D for all eternity.

      • 4thStringGoalie

        I want him to pick up players going to his net….Maybe get back to the basics.

        • SensFanInMTL

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          • SensChirp

            Ease up on the pictures, would ya?

          • SensFanInMTL

            Are we on the verge of crashing soon?

          • sprucesens

            as a side note all i’m seeing are underscores ____. i assume these are supposed to be pics that you are referring to? just a technical heads up.

  • karlssens

    To EDM: Anderson
    To Ottawa: Smid + hemsky

    Turning point in the season, we then go on to win every game lollllllll

    • MikeS

      plz no

    • FSJ123

      lol you’ll get plenty of likes, until Lawson is the backup and we lose 16-0

      • SensFanInMTL

        I lol’d.

        • FSJ123

          i liked the comment, he’s making fun of people wanting to trade Andy…lol

          • SensFanInMTL

            It’s because I envisioned looking at the TV screen and seeing 16 for the opposing team while had 0 due to having Lawson in nets. And that’s just after 40 minutes.

      • karlssens

        Lawson is clutch!! He played great in pre season lmao

    • 4thStringGoalie

      I don’t like the idea of trading Anderson, but maybe we are seeing the Anderson that Colorado traded away. I’m assuming Lehner gets the start Friday and it will be curious what will happen if he gets a few wins.

      • FSJ123

        we still have no 2nd guy if they trade Andy, Lawson is very far off…how many years did we complain about not having a goalie? and now we just want to trade them away.

        • 4thStringGoalie

          I didn’t say trade him. I agree with you that we don’t have the depth. I was just pointing out there was a reason that Colorado got rid of him. He has made some fantastic saves this year and as a goalie if you are not confident with the team in front of you it affects your play.

  • http://bftc-ehm.forumotion.com/ argun31

    WE NEED A TOP 6 PLAYER AND A TOP 4DMEN!

    If it has to happen, trade Craig Anderson! I bet his value is high.. because I feel more comfortable when Lehner is in the nets..

    • MikeS

      Ya cause we need wayyyyyyyyyyyyy more goals

    • Zorav

      I just don’t freakin understand why everyone wants to trade him…. I understand why some of everyone thinks Lehner is ready, but as fans we’re viewing these guys as chess pieces and not humans. Putting the pressure of a starter at a young tender age 22 behind arguably one of the more messy defensive units (so far) is not the brightest idea. Anderson, right now, is perfect for the. job. Trading him might get you that reliable #3-4 D-man but you’re losing the most important player on the team in doing so.

    • Kielbasa

      Right. Because the major issue right now in this slump is our goaltending. Anderson for the most part doesn’t stand a chance. Stopping the puck and not having your D clear the garbage out front, is not going to help your goaltending. Having your D pinch and miss the players to give odd man breaks, is not going to help your goaltending. Having your D chase one player to leave the other free and clear in front of the net, is not going to help your goaltending.
      Despite a spark of offence, like last night…if our D continue down this path a brick wall filling the net is not going to make a difference. We’re going to continue to lose. It doesn’t matter who is in net. Anderson is not to blame.

  • 4thStringGoalie

    I wonder what it would take to get a Keith Yandle out of Phoenix?

  • MikeS

    Sens are 3-0-1 against the east and 8/9 next games against the east

    • karlssens

      Perfect, so we can make it to the SCF and get swepped by the west.. Good plan Sens

      • MikeS

        would you really be disappointed with that result?

        • SensFanInMTL

          Well yes good sir. Ultimately we’re there to hoist the holy grail.

      • 4thStringGoalie

        Well they aren’t winless against the west so it might not be a sweep. They did beat Phoenix.

  • sens88

    I’m not really sure what people want Karlsson to do. He’s a dynamic, offensive defenceman, and with that he is going to have to take risks. Sometimes they pay off, and sometimes they don’t. It exactly the same as Spezza. You hear most NHL analysts say that the great player play on the edge and take chances and that’s why the things they do are so amazing. Is he as fast and explosive in his skating or as confident with the puck as he was pre-injury? No. But I would rather have this guy on my team than any other defenceman in the NHL.

    Although the 3rd period was a disappointment, I think they sens looked pretty dangerous against what is arguably the best team in the league. Lots of good (and bad) things to take away from this one. We are 12 games in to an 82 game season, so forgive me if I refuse to hit the panic button.

    • 4thStringGoalie

      Karlsson can be as dynamic as he wants with the puck… If he coughs the puck up on a rush and the other teams turns around and scores you can chalk that up to the pitfalls of the “dynamic offensive defenceman”.

      However I don’t see those type of goals happening. I see him making mistakes without the puck in his own end over and over that are causing goals. I fail to see how his “risks” play into poor positioning and urgency in his own end.

      • sprucesens

        the important part in all of this, is karlsson is creating offense when he’s on. Yes there are defensive lapses, in either end. But the problem is, the other D are making even more of those types of mistakes, most importantly, the defensive D. And thats where the ship needs to be righted.

        It needs to be known that a D can pinch or push for the scoring chance, while the other is going to be ready to play a 2 on 1 if need be, and be smart enough to not take the man with the puck, and try checking him after he’s already passed to a now wide open man in front of the net….cowen…

        • sens88

          I couldn’t agree more.

      • sens88

        The rough play he made in the Anaheim game that led to the Getzlaf goal, I completely agree that he can’t be making those kinds of mistakes. But I don’t see Karlsson as anywhere near the worst offender for giveaways on this team. Collectively, they struggle night after night to get it out of the defensive zone. Maybe you just think he coughs it up more because he’s on the ice 26+ mins a night?

    • Senut

      same here ,I’m not freaking out
      {said the man with handfuls of hair}

    • Tooks

      You do realise we were playing a back up again….right? Khaby was the only reason we were up 4-2…They guy is a massive downgrade from Crawford.

      • sens88

        Umm yes I had realized that. I was saying that the sens were dominating the play for good stretches in the 1st and 2nd. I didn’t say anything about khabibulin being amazing so I don’t know what your point is…

  • Zorav

    I understand that they’re playing some of the top teams in the league, but with all due respect Chirp, this is the third time we can’t beat a team playing the second game of a back to back… The Ottawa Senators are a national hockey league team. You have to be accountable at this level.

    • Zorav

      Although, I will agree on the fact that Karlsson along with are by far our best D-men. One thing I don’t like about karlsson is that he’s pinching wayyy too much. It’s fine, when he has that godly speed, but as of now, he doesn’t. So, hopefully he takes a step back , accept where he’s at in terms of his speed and simply doesn’t pinch as much to give the other teams the odd man rushes.

    • hq8

      thank you and the key point today demonstrating that was the sens 4-2 lead midway through the third. which shows the capability is there, the execution is not.

    • Tooks

      Exactly, this is the 3rd straight time we face a team on a back to back with its back up goalie and we cant find a way to win…unacceptable!

  • 4thStringGoalie

    IN the 2006-2007 season the senators started 6-11-1. Including a stretch where they lost 7 of 8.

    • SensFanInMTL

      wasn’t our third line also Kelly- Vermette – Neil as well? Compared to the current 3rd line, I believe we will never replicate the drive the 2006-2007 team had. Obviously I hope I am incorrect.

  • Senut

    Just had a second look at the schedule after
    Chirps tweet and after watching every game
    we’ve played as well as tonight I think there’s
    brighter nights ahead for the Sens.
    Still got some things to iron out but the new
    offense alone is amazing to watch
    in another ten games we should be up with the
    eastern contenders or at least close

  • hq8

    so much for being the best canadian team for 2013-2014, this season is starting to feel like 2009 again.

    • SensChirp

      Or maybe it’s more like two seasons ago. Started slow that year too.

      • hq8

        yes we did except i remember it was a couple of games against FLA and TB in a very short span that helped us get into motion.

  • Jacques

    The difference in this game and most games comes down to the compete level of the 2 Captains! Toews all over the ice working hard and Spezza when you’re down by a goal in the last minute and the puck is dumped in and he barely makes an effort to go retrieve it???? Holy crap!

    • SensChirp

      Complete horse shit assessment. With all due respect, of course.

      • Conor_smythe

        …Some people just dont know hockey!

      • Aaron 2.0

        This sort of goes right to my point yesterday about being respectful to others. I was really surprised to see this comment from you chirp. Especially after lambasting people for not being level-headed yesterday. Why not respond in kind. Spezza has actually been good, and getting better.

    • Kielbasa

      This place is flooded with negative comments. And then completely stupid ones like this. Come on.
      Everyone is pissed off that the Sens lost yet another one. The majority of us are negative right now…and for good reason. But to question Spezza’s hard work and effort. He has been one of the few bright spots through all of this.
      Stupid comment.

  • Sens-fan-in-mtl

    I for one am not discouraged, really sucks to score five on the Stanley Cup Champs and still lose. However, many of their goals were on D breakdowns that should not happen (and presumably Pmac can fix).

    Case in point – Cowen’s 2 on 1, seriously, my 10 year old knows that you don’t chase the guy to the boards and leave the other man open in the slot…come on!!

    EK65 was a bit weak on his D coverage on a few as well.

    Again, just some minor stuff that the Sens should be able to fix and turn this around – stop being so negative out there!!!

    • Tooks

      Well it would be minor stuff IF we didnt commit these errors everygame, oh wait we have been doing that everygame. You would think after 12 games in you would have the problem under control if it was this minor…

      IMO changes are coming IF we play 3 more games like that or IF we hit the 20 game mark with a losing record.

  • SlickRick

    Holy crap people, relax. I know that most people who voice their opinion on social media/internet are those who have a negative view but his is getting ridiculous.
    Sens are fine and Spezza/Karlsson rule!

  • MethotToMyMadness

    I said yesterday that this game would be much closer than people may have expected and it was true. I saw something like a 3-2 or 2-1 result in my mind, going either way. But I guess 6-5 is just as close if you break it all down.

    I’m upset that the Sens could not hold a lead on more than one occasion, but I’m also happy the Sens mustered up 5 goals, that’s a great offensive showing when playing on the road. We seem to be playing better on the road right now, maybe that’s due to the big first of season road trip.

    But damn those Hawks are crafty. They come in swarms and they attack at the perfect spots on the ice, while always having a great outlet pass. Something our forwards should really watch tape on. In all honesty you have to give some credit to the Sens for making it a hard night for the Hawks and even more credit for sticking with it and getting that 5th goal after the game was put away. It shows our guys aren’t going to give up.

    My biggest peeve last night, was the very final play. I love you EK, but PLEASE take that slap shot when you get a chance. Karlsson has reverted from the slapper in the last season or two and has went with the old wrist shop, which I think he started doing when he was missing the net high on many nights. In some cases the wrister works but last night, the D didn’t fall for the fake shot and managed to get in front and blocked the wrist shot. Take that shot, don’t waste it.

  • Millennium

    There were some positives in last nights game, which is nice. Defense wasn’t one of them though…

    If that game had been just another mid-season game, I don’t think too many people would complain about the outcome. The microscope the team is under right now makes your average loss seem much more problematic.

    But damn, Cowen is brutal. Like, visibly terrible on the ice.

  • Miguel

    just reading a few of the comments, and just b/c someone is stating an opinion on the bad start to the season, and the fact that defensively we are one of the worst teams in hockey right now, should not be labelled or dismissed as negative, it is in fact accurate. I think too many people on here are worried about being attacked as negative or as not a fan b/c we are not happy with the way our team is playing.
    Reality is yes they have played some of he better teams in the NHL and quite frankly we simply do not rank up there with them.
    We are being exposed as a very slow team, that cannot keep pace with the big boys, and all this BS about being to small, and not tough enough, really means crap when you see guys like Kane back check on Cowen with speed, stick checks him, takes the puck away as Cowen falls to the ice.
    On defense we are not fast enough or agile enough to keep up with the top end teams.
    Phillips, Cowen, Wiercioch, are too slow in our own end and either lost battles for the puck or are swinging blindly to get rid of it.
    Take a snapshot of Methot, and see how he not only wins the battle, he creates some time and space to be able to make the outlet pass. Other than EK, no other d-man can do this right now, and is posing huge problems for us defensively.
    Finally, I love Neil, but please lets put him in a position to be successful, he is playing out of his role right now, and he is being exposed for something that he is not, and hurting out team in the process.
    To better days ahead, and a solid win on Friday, fingers crossed
    Not being negative, just realistic
    Go Sens Go

  • Jason

    I don’t feel like being negative after last night’s game because it would be wayyyy to easy. SO here’s some positives.
    We scored 5 goals against the defending stanley cup champs.
    Smith played really good, seemed to forecheck hard and was hitting people. Scored a nice goal and won over 50% faceoffs.
    Corvo played really good, scored a goal. Was even on the night with 5 shots. People are quite negative towards him but he is a #6 -7 defenseman on the team, if you compare him to other teams 6-7 defenseman he’s probably one of the best. Keep him in the lineup.
    Methot played really good as usual. Best defenseman on the team so far this year.
    Spezza won 72% of his faceoffs…that’s all I have.
    Zibanejad seemed to have a lot more energy last night and scored another goal, he’s here to stay.