Senators End Season With a Win- Thoughts and Highlights

SensChirp April 14, 2014 385
Senators End Season With a Win- Thoughts and Highlights

-Fitting that the season would end on a dazzling shootout goal by Jason Spezza. The future of the Captain figures to be one of the most talked about storylines of the upcoming off season. Last night TSN’s Darren Dreger indicated on a couple of occasions that he expects Spezza to move this summer. And that is in line with what I have shared over the last week or so. One thing people need to keep in mind here is that this decision isn’t entirely up to the Senators. Both sides may be ready to go their separate ways. If Ottawa does want to keep him, it may be up to Bryan Murray to convince him to stick around.

-So while the Senators season ends in disappointment in terms of not making the playoffs, the team has to be happy with the way they closed out the season. They were among the hottest teams in the league over the last month, and ended their year on a five game winning streak. If anything, that makes the inconsistency they showed throughout the season that much more disappointing.

-Paul MacLean is another story line we’ll hear a lot about over the off season but I really do believe he’s safe heading into next season. Not sure the organization would make MacLean available to the media today if they had plans to fire him right at the end of the season. MacLean and the players will speak to the media today. Murray and Melnyk are up tomorrow.

-Wanted to close out the season with a most sincere “Thank You” to the loyal readers of this site. It has been another fun season around these parts as we completed the transfer to our new website layout. It was a move that allowed us to continue to grow the community. This site started as the odd insider tip from an anonymous source but has developed into one of the best places to talk Sens hockey anywhere on the internet. None of it would be possible without your ongoing loyalty and contributions to the site. So again, thank you!

Do you think Jason Spezza will be back with the Senators next season?

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  • SensChirp

    This poll is more about what people “expect” will happen rather than what they think should happen. Interested to see where fans heads are at right now.

    • OverMind

      now that the pain has worn off im ready to call mulligan on the whole season and would like to see both spezza and maclean stay. however our D needs work, a nice shot of erhoff would do nicely.

      • The Apostle

        I’m happy to give MacLean a mulligan, especially if there are significant changes to the playing roster before the start of next season

    • A-Train

      Until recently I was highly skeptical he’d be traded. But I’ve come to see it as more or less likely.

      There were a few times in Jason Spezza’s career where I wouldn’t have been surprised to hear him say he wanted out … but we never heard that from him. Heck, at the beginning of his career a player of his skill and pedigree might have demanded a trade when Jacques Martin refused to play him.

      That we’re now hearing rumours he’s asked about a trade + his own pretty frank comments on the subject make me think it’s happening.

  • The Apostle

    no table, no vote

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    I answered no to the poll… But just because I think it may be time for both parties to move on… Do I want us to move Spezza, no I don’t think so….. Will I be upset if we move him…. I don’t think so either, but after the Bishop trade for absolutely nothing I will withhold my final decision until /if we see the return he fetched us.

  • shortbus

    I would like to see Spezza come back, he had to fill Alfie shoes this year which was an uphill battle he could not really win. When he was moved to the third line, and was playing sub 15mins a game i never heard anything in the media from him. I think that means he is ready to play the role as needed to be the captain.
    As for MacLean, I believe he will be back also, but the existing coaching staff may not, remember that he didn’t bring in any of these guys, he was handed them.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Thanks for another great season Chirp! I’ve been a follower since Heatley saga began and have continued to check in here every day since. There isn’t a better place on the internet to come and discuss Sens hockey!

    The season may be over but I suspect that it will a busy off-season for the Senators which means a busy offseason for Senschirp. I think there’s going to be plenty for us to talk about and debate, some decisions made by the organization that we may or may not like.

  • Max Power

    If spezza isn’t moved is there a chance one of our other centres is gone?

    • FistsofNeil25

      I could see Zibanejad traded if Spezza isn’t. They’ll continue to have a hard time finding ice-time for Zibanejad with Spezza, Turris ahead of him and Maclean and Murray’s loyalty to Smitty.

      I could see Zibby traded for either a top six left winger or a top four defenseman If #19 is retained. Still think Spezz is the one on his way out though.

      • xN1Cx

        Zibby could easily be a third liner for another 3 seasons. Spezza could sign a five year deal and be traded after three to a contender.

      • Jakester

        No way they trade Zibby.

      • Sandy

        He’s 20 yrs old for pete’s sake.. This team would be absolute dumb to give up on him…
        He is fine on the 3d line with Hoffman & Stone..

    • Sandy

      No..

  • Max Power

    Also… where do y’all think spezza would go? What would we get back?

    Someone mentioned spezza and ryan for giroux… don’t think that’ll happen

    • xN1Cx

      Would hate that trade

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Horrible trade

    • Brutus5247

      The somebody must be a crackhead from Philly!

    • Jakester

      One of Chicago,St. Louis,L.A., or Anaheim would be my bet. Nashville could be a darkhorse, E5 on that rumour!

  • Cicero

    Thank you, Chirp, for your commitment to providing an informed and dynamic site for Sens fans (and no doubt a smattering of Habsfan and Leafsfan Provocateurs!) to hang out and discuss the gap between expectations and reality.

    When PMac kept saying, “I think you’re going to like where we are after 82 games”, I had something else in mind, but I’ll take standing over the Leafs as consolation.

    This summer, I’ll be watching Melnyk closely. We’ll never be a cap team with him at the helm, and frankly I don’t believe Ottawa could ever become a ‘buyer’ in the sense of approaching the cap ceiling. If anything, we’d be willing to trade for picks to ensure long-term sustainability. We’ll always be a draft team, not a free-agent buyer. I’d like to give Melnyk the benefit of the doubt, seeing that he’s got the right approach to keep the Sens in Ottawa.

    Attendance wavered this year, but we’re still in the middle of the pack. I was surprised to discover that Sens fans put Ottawa in the top 6 in the league for attendance for the two years prior to this season, and in the top 10 since 2004-2005.

    The roster looks really good for next year, with or without Spezza. 16-7-6 has been a wonderful surprise no one foresaw a few years back. Now we see the emergence of drafted youth like Stone, Hoffman, Zibanejad…our big, young corps of D-men…Lehner coming into his own….ALL of this is good.

    Evaluating a season is always dependent upon initial expectations. Going into this season, I think expectations were unrealistically high. Next October, the bar will be lowered, and I think this will make for a more enjoyable season.

  • peetypuck

    There are plenty of reasons to keep or trade Spezza. I have no doubt that he would be snapped up quickly. The Sens have Zibanejad, Stone, Puempel, Schneider and Lazar probably all looking for a permanent spot next October. That would give them Spezza, Turris, Zibby, Z Smith and Lazar at centre. Ryan, Hemsky, Stone, Neil and Condra on R wing. MacArthur, Michalek, Greening, Peumpel, Schneider on L wing. Spezza, Michalek and Hemsky need to be re-signed for $15-20 million in salary while they could be replaced with entry-level contracts. Will the team be any better next year by re-signing #’s 9, 19 and 83? Replacing them with Lazar, Peumpel and Schneider instead could put them in contention for the Connor McDavid sweepstakes next summer.

    • Brutus5247

      If we get of Spezza Hemsky Michalyk DOES not mean we are in the Conner McDavid sweepstakes. Thats a pipe dream. Look what happened last year when our BIG GUNS were injured. We had a solid defensive team that took us to the playoffs. We didn’t score as much but our defensive play and goaltending won won games. When your line of top guns is minus a zillion, you lose games. These guys have been in the plus for the last 10 and low and behold what happens?

      • peetypuck

        So you think that we have a better team without Spezza?

        • Brutus5247

          Its a positive/negative. When the guy plays a full game of 200 ft, which a centreman must, there are few who are better at electrifying a crown. The problem is inconsistency. My guess is at best 50/50 where he plays to his ability in an end to end game. We may be better with a player(in trade) who is a little less skilled offensively but plays a solid defensive game. eg McArthur/Turris like.

          • peetypuck

            I agree with you. The team is going younger. It’s time for Turris and EK65 to take over leading this team to the Stanley Cup. I have a lot of confidence in them. It would be great if we could get a top D-man in return for Spezza.

        • shortbus

          I think that with the right moves and dressing room we can have Spezza, Turris and Zbad down the middle.

          Forward:

          Ryan, Turris, Mac
          Hemsky, Spezza, Stone/Hoffman
          Chirs Steward (BUF), Zbad, condra
          Neil, smith, B. Robinson

          Defence:
          E. Karlsson Methot
          Erhoff (BUF) Cowan
          Cici Phillips

          OTT – Shane Prince, De Costa, P.Weir
          BUF – Chris Steward, Erhoff

    • Jakester

      Hoffman is a natural center too.

  • FistsofNeil25

    I really do think that last night’s game was Spezza’s last as a
    Senator. He’s still an extremely talented and productive offensive
    player, but I don’t think the organization has interest in re-signing
    him to big bucks long-term ( do to injury history and age), and I believe that Spezza wants a change of
    scenery.

    I have had a love/hate relationship with Spezza his entire career. I’ve loved him for his ability to send me flying out of my seat countless times for ridiculous highlight reel plays, but he has always left me wanting more in terms of being an all round player. I know a lot of people say you can’t expect Spezza to be good defensively, but I believe that’s a bunch of bullshit. You have to be able to rely on your best players at both ends of the ice.

    At the end of the day, Spezza has had an amazing career here in Ottawa. He may never have been fully appreciated here, but even Alfie had his haters. It may be a long time before we see a player of his high-end offensive abilities in a Sens jersey again, but that doesn’t mean we can’t be a better team again some day.

    Thanks Spezz for all the great memories. As of right now he’s going down as the second greatest (some would argue the greatest) Senator of all time. Whether he’s back in Ottawa or somewhere else, I wish him well and hope for plenty more future success.

  • EK65

    So, given that Hemsky said signing with the team would depend on Spezza (he’s the best center he’s even played with, etc.) does that mean a Spezza departure would mean Hemsky leaving too?

    I really want to keep Spezza *tear*

    • Doc

      He did say he was the best center he played with, but didn’t say that his decision was dependant on Spezza staying.

      Hemsky looked real good with Zibanejad too.

      • Jakester

        Exactly, a nice money figure for Hemsky and a chance to play with Zibby should get him signed too.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    Spezza will stay next season… He makes $4m and has a cap hit of $7m. There is no way Eugene let’s him go since it’s $3m in savings to get to the cap floor or just over!

    • SensChirp

      This is a good point. And actually pretty terrifying that they would make the decision with this in mind. Because then they risk losing him for nothing.

      • Doc

        I was about to say. Not the right mindset, specially if he wants to move on.

      • Dirk-Diggler

        I am also in the keep (and resign) Spezza camp..

        4 year extension at $6.66/season

        • Brutus5247

          I say less with high performance incentives.

          • Jakester

            You mean every time he crosses our blue line defensively he gets a G note, an extra G note if he rubs shoulders with an opposing player, lol

      • Jakester

        Come on , Melnyk is getting about 45 million next year in TV money! The cap is going up 6 million at the most. He’s cut back on all the give aways and has forced fans to pay for their tickets. Let’s stop with the penny pinching theory. Murray will make the tough decisions this summer, he can’t run away from them now. I think if they have no desire in signing him long term(which I’m fairly sure of), he’ll be dealt at the draft.

    • Michenator

      I completely think he stays because of that reason. Melnyk is gonna pull us under unfortunately. ALTHOUGH I do think we’re so much better than we appeared this season and this season will have given a lot of experience to a lot of the younger fellas.

    • The Apostle

      Then move him at the deadline.

      • Pasky

        Wouldn’t get as much value as trading him at the draft.

        The decision this summer should be sign him to an extension, or trade him at the draft to get the best return possible.

        • Doc

          Agreed.

        • The Apostle

          I agree – I was replying to the specific scenario suggested by The Diggler.

          Given the trouble we have had finding wingers for him over the years Spezza would be one of the last players I would imagine a GM would look to bring in at a deadline.

          I think it’s clear that Murray and Melnyk will talk with Spezza and his agent, gauge interest and numbers for a contract extension and go from there.

          To me the biggest factor in all of this is Spezza’s own mind. If he feels it’s time to draw a line then we have to move him well before the start of the season.

          Does anybody know if Spezza’s agent is allowed to talk contracts with a team willing to trade for him, because obviously the return is going to be better if the new team know he is there long term. Of course it being allowed to happen and it happening anyway are two different things.

  • xN1Cx

    He better be! We need him more than we don’t.

  • Pasky

    I’m happy whether he stays or goes, as long as the return is of value.

    One thing we should cheer for if he is in fact being traded is a St-Louis exit in the first round. It seems like that team might need a high scoring player to take them to the promise land. They are definitely in the top 5 teams in the NHL when healthy, but that’s a team that relies on it’s depth to win games. Since a collection of injuries happened to their forward group, they lose that depth that makes them so good, and they lack that one true superstar to carry them through it (forward superstar, so Pietrangelo doesn’t count.)

    If they have interest in Spezza, maybe we can try and get Shattenkirk out of there.

    • FistsofNeil25

      My thoughts exactly! If St Louis bows out in the first or second round, they may push hard for Spezza or a player of similar skill-set.

      With a weak free agent crop (the only top-six UFA center available is Paul Stastny) and the salary cap going up, I can see a lot of teams making calls on Spezza, it’s just a matter of what we can get for him in a trade.

      I suspect he won’t be the only other big name center on the trade market. There have been lots of reports indicating that Eric Staal and Ryan Kesler could be available, among others.

      • The Apostle

        I would guess that they would need a change of coach first. I don’t see Spezza as a Ken Hitchcock type of player.

        • laffin681021

          Hitchcock has worked with Spezza in the past, I can see it happening again if this trade goes down in the future.

  • LeafsSux

    Thanks for everything Chirp! I stumbled across this site at the start of the season and im a big fan of this place.. The hockey knowledge in here is impeccable and the loyal support to this team as well. As far as Spezza goes I feel he stays as long if he wants to be here. There will be a few big moves over the summer but I feel it will be with our younger players. Last thing if you are still planning on a Baby Sens trip for the playoffs I want in! Go Sens Go!!

  • thepez

    I think the conversation starting today between Murray and Spezza will really be the key in his future. Spezza will want to see the plan moving ahead. The guy wants to win and the Sens will need to prove it to him. If they plan on bringing up the young guys and letting go/trading the vets then I can see Spezza requesting a trade. Many have said this, but it truly may be the most important off-season ever for this team

  • CrazyFish

    I really hope Spezza is back next year, I don’t think this team needs to be blown up and go through another big leadership change. I would like to see some changes in the bottom six on this team, we have some guys down there that make too much money that could be spent to sign guys like Hemsky, Ryan and Spezza. Some of the Bingo kids can fill in and do a good job replacing the fringe players like Greening, Condra etc. Save some money there instead of nickel and diming the top end talent.

  • ZaZa

    Spezza took the licks and criticism all these years, finally earning the Captains title he wanted so bad (which he deserved) and now these “analysts” are saying he’s gonna throw that all away?

    He’s staying everyone. These “analysts” like to throw common sense out the window just so they can make a story out of nothing.

    • Doc

      lol…

    • SuperSENS

      I agree that it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense, but I’ve also come to expect the nonsensical, so anything is possible.

    • zBernatchez

      Hmmm maybe chirp wants more hits haha. Jk

    • Zelle

      I don’t really care what the analysts say, it’s Spezza’s body language and vague non answers that have me concerned. Add that to Chirp’s hint that he himself asked to be traded and I believe we have a guy that already has one foot out of the organization.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    I have a feeling Hemsky walks… He’s been part of a rebuilding team for too long and will want to go to a contender.. I see him takinga deal in Pitt

  • SensChirp

    @HockeyScanner- Ales Hemsky: “I like it here. I have no complaints. But we’ll see about
    the future.” Spezza situation factors in “a little bit.”

    • FistsofNeil25

      In other words, money talks.

      • zBernatchez

        That’s life in a nutshell

        • FistsofNeil25

          Same thing will happen with Bobby. He likes it here, but if we don’t offer him every penny he thinks he’s worth, he’ll split.

    • Doc

      All depends on offer, I presume.

      To be honest, Stone’s emergence in the last few weeks have made me less afraid of losing Hemsky.

    • zBernatchez

      I firmly believe if spezza leaves we loose hemsky. Really a no brainer

      • FistsofNeil25

        How does that work though? Spezza has a year left on his contract and Hemsky is a UFA. We could re-sign Hemsky at any time now and I highly doubt that Murray will promise Hemsky during contract negotiations that he won’t trade Spezza.

        If we re-sign Hemsky in the next couple weeks, that doesn’t mean Spezza can’t or won’t be dealt at some point during the offseason.

        • SensChirp

          There’s just no way Hemsky signs something with Ottawa before knowing what else is out there. Unless it’s a ridiculous overpayment.

          • FistsofNeil25

            Oh I completely agree, but I find it extremely hard to believe that he will only re-sign in Ottawa if the team makes a commitment to Spezza as well.

            I don’t even think Hemsky will be back regardless of the Spezza situation. I think there will be other teams out there that will either be willing to over-pay for his services or offer him a better chance of winning.

            There are always desperate teams willing to overpay for guys like Hemsky. I don’t think Ottawa is desperate to bring him back. Would they like him to return, sure, but I don’t think they’re willing to do it at all costs, nor should they.

        • peetypuck

          With Hemskys history I would not offer him a long-term contract. Two years tops. I don’t think he goes for that.

        • zBernatchez

          Use your brain bud. Spezza leaves….hemsky has no interest in playing here now we have no “first line” but hey one can argue that.

          • FistsofNeil25

            Use my brain? There’s no need for comments like that man.

            People just have to realize that Hemsky can be re-signed long before the organization makes a decision on Spezza.

            It’s not like we have to trade Spezza at the draft and then see Hemsky walk. Hemsky can be re-signed at any time, and there’s no rush to make a decision on Spezza.

            Say we re-sign Hemsky the first week of July and Spezza is still on the team’s roster. Then Murray may receive an offer for Spezza at a later date that he can’t refuse. That situation is entirely possible. It’s not like these guys are both UFA’s and Hemsky is waiting for Spezza to sign first.

          • whammer44

            Good job using your brain!

          • Jakester

            We can sign Hemsky tomorrow(hypothetical), and then decide to trade Spezza. Hemsky with Zibby would be fine. Just be clear to Hemsky that Spezza might be moved. I think that this team will be REAL good next year!

    • Zelle

      Thanks for sharing Chirp.

      I like Hemsky so far. He seems genuinely happy on the ice as well.

      What I fear, and I’d like it if others could weigh in on this:
      I believe that both Ryan and Hemsky want to be on the top line and want the recognition they couldn’t get in their previous clubs. Unfortunately, they both play on the same wing and from what I have read it would be a mistake to move either on their off wing. I am worried that if Maclean goes with the top line M-T-R and then second line being Zbad’s with Hemsky he will be miffed, but if it’s the other way around, perhaps Ryan will be miffed. It might be a fragile situation. Not sure if both would be happy as 1A and 1B? If I had to choose though I’d pick Ryan, but it would be nice to keep both regardless of Spezza’s decision.

      • whammer44

        You know there’s no “I” in team eh? If any guy is more pre-occupied with stopwatching his minutes this is not a guy you want.

        There’s plenty of ice time for both those guys, so reflecting on whether Hemsky and Ryan are going to be jealous of each other is…well…sounds like Don Brennan type writing.

        • Zelle

          Good point lol I figure they both just want to win. But it’s not so much jealousy as wanting to be more than just a player on the team, as in face of the franchise or something of the sort.

    • Senator forever

      I was for trading Spezz all year long but since the pickup of Ales as his winger, he has looked dynamic. Hemsky truly appreciates Spezz and I think we now need them both going into next year. Spezz is looking more and more like a captain now with his new linemate. Pick up a solid defensive player for left wing on that line and they should do fine. I don’t know if Greening qualifies or not but perhaps that could be a great line combo. MM has to go.

  • Brutus5247

    The cost per point is a joke. Add in the points against as part of the equation and you may have something.
    Points + Points ON ice FOR per 60 Divided by Points ON ice against per 60 and maybe you have something, POINTS with no defensive stat is useless if you want a winning combination.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Man this is probably the most excited I have been for an off season. Going to be interesting

  • zBernatchez

    Only way I see spezza moved is during the draft to actually get a first round pick plus a bonified d man or centre

    • Brutus5247

      First round pick from a shitty team would be great BUt he’s not going there.

      • zBernatchez

        Doesn’t mean it’s a shitty team, look at ek65 he was 15th overall.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        Maybe in next year’s draft…. Everyone needs to stop obsession with this year’s draft… Unless it’s top two who cares

    • FistsofNeil25

      We don’t need draft picks. We need players that can play now!

      • zBernatchez

        Did you read the last part of my sentence….

  • Brutus5247

    When your best players play you can win most of the time. This is what we’ve seen in the last month. Great to see this at the end of the year. How many games has Cowen been out?

  • peetypuck

    Our biggest need is a top defenceman to be real contenders. Would Nashville be interested in Spezza as part of a deal for Shea Weber?

    • Doc

      No.

    • Brutus5247

      You think Eugeno is paying Webers contract. NOT A CHANCE!

      • peetypuck

        How can you go wrong with Weber. He’s a rock.

        • Brutus5247

          Not the player the MONEY!

          • Brutus5247

            Not sure Eugene looks at it that way

        • peetypuck

          Weber will pay his own way by bringing in new paying fans not to mention we go farther in the playoffs with him.

          • zBernatchez

            Why don’t we trade for Crosby while were at it

          • peetypuck

            Don’t be so facetious.

          • zBernatchez

            Well come on that’s pretty much what you are saying.

          • peetypuck

            I’m pretty sure that David Poile would move Weber for the right price. Crosby, not.

      • zBernatchez

        Why would they trade a potential Norris trophy defence man away for some one who can’t spell defence

        • peetypuck

          Nashville can’t afford him plus they really could use a bonafide #1 centre.

          • zBernatchez

            We can’t afford weber either… We are a basement floor cap team.

          • peetypuck

            If we drop Spezza and Michaleks salaries that’s about $12 million. Whom would you rather spend that money on? I’ll take Weber any day.

          • TookieIs100PercentRight

            Weber is an incredible player and I’d love him on Sens but what is Nashville going to replace him with? They’d be left with Josi & company. We’d have send a defenceman back in that deal. If we send Methot, Spezza (think that’s around 10 million cap hit) for Weber + ? Maybe Hornqvist or one of their forwards that would be pretty sweet.

            TOOKS100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • peetypuck

            Methot and Spezza for Weber? I’d go for that. We still get the best player and win the deal.

          • runningbear1974

            Spezza Phillips Cowen

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    As it looks like, If Spezza leaves. Hemsky is gone

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      It is not directly correlated

  • zBernatchez

    Also I’ll never get why PW46 was a scratch for 3/4 of the season at 2m a year. This kid is a steady and great on the PP which we lacked secondary scoring from the point on the Pp other then Karlsson. He always seems to get pucks through to the net.

    • Brutus5247

      He still struggles tremendously in the d zone. He is FABULOUS in the offensive zone. Watch the games and you will see his physical weakness is very obvious. He pushes NO ONE off the puck and is himself easily removed. He does make a good pass if not pressured. This must drive McLean crazy! Its the only logical reason for the benching.

      • zBernatchez

        Agreed but wasn’t the rest of the d in the same boat…lol

        • Brutus5247

          Not the physical part. He is the weakest by far. This guys gets way stronger he is a gem but I am not sure that can happen.

          • zBernatchez

            Dude we couldn’t break out of our end the whole year which lead to us being a team who had the most goals against in the league. You don’t have to be physical in your own end you have to be smart. Phillips is physical and he still struggles to break the puck out.

          • Brutus5247

            I thought the discussion was Wiercioch. He is terrible in front of the net and on the wall and thats what got him sat. Certainly not his offense.

          • zBernatchez

            So was every other d man on our roster that’s my point. Why wouldn’t we give him more games and get the experience

          • CUP 2014-15

            The main thing PW needs to do is, as many have said, get stronger and more engaged but man he backs up to the paint when defending he needs to engage early, they just walk him back.

      • Miguel

        so what your saying is that he is the same as Cowen in our own end except he is capable of making a pass, and he is great in thier end?
        which Cowen could not do… so why play Cowen over PW46?

        • zBernatchez

          Thank you exactly my point. Plus Cowen seemed injured the majority of the season or lost out there

          • Brutus5247

            FIRST ROUND PICKS are given EVERY opportunity to succeed. This is not a Cowen discussion, the argument was wiercioch sitting.

          • zBernatchez

            It’s a discussion about our defense as a whole.

      • Zelle

        I feel that he will be told to train and gain some muscle, like Karlsson and Turris had to do. With some more strength he could be a very good D, but I agree with you about his weaknesses as it stands right now.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    Webber for Lazar, Cowen and 2016 1st

    • Zelle

      No way on Lazar.

  • Simple Jack

    I dont know if leaf fans are voting or what. Why would we trade spezza or ryan? They are under contract next season.

    Why dont you guys just trade methot and macaurthur while your at it…

    • whammer44

      Well if you paid attention as the chirpster said…it may not be up to mgmt. If Spezza wants out and isn’t going to re-sign with the Sens after this season why wouldn’t they trade him?

      Is letting him walk and getting nothing back a better scenario to you?

  • karlssens

    Bingo is stacked now.. Pageau, Stone, Ceci all headed down. They gotta be one of the favorites. Now that the Sens are out, let’s support the bingo boys!

    • Brutus5247

      Bet these guys are thrilled! LOL

      • peetypuck

        It’s there chance to show Murray what type of playoff players they are.

        • Brutus5247

          Man it’s a different lower league. What will it show? That an NHL quality player can play in the AHL. They have proved they can play in the show and the trailer can’t be that exciting.

          • laffin681021

            It’s about development and experience in a playoff situation. Would you rather them not play at all?

  • Miguel

    i am very concerned that Spezza has already determined that he will be moving on from this org. He seemed to be showcasing himself, and no doubt that this past year was not a way he would like to spend his last contract, moving forward.
    Many in this city, including fans, media, coaches, take him for granted, and I am certain that many other cities would love to accept him, and make him the new hero on a team that needs a pure offensive genious.
    We do not deserve his magic anymore, this city seems to only admire plugs, who can play the game better without a stick in their hand ala Neil, Greening, Condra.
    If Spezza lands in the right city, and environmnent he will prove his worth, but in Ottawa he will never get the respect he deserves… which IMO is truly a shame!

    • Brutus5247

      Showcasing himself could be right on because he didn’t seem motivated the rest of the year.

    • thepez

      Let’s not get too dramatical. Spezza stays and leads the team back to the playoffs with a good year next year and all is good. I know I’ve said this before but 2006 playoffs Alfie was considered a bad leader and that he should go somehwere else and now we know the rest of the story.

      • Miguel

        whats dramatical about my comment? put yourself in his shoes.

      • thepez

        “We do not deserve his magic anymore, this city seems to only admire plugs, who can play the game better without a stick in their hand ala Neil, Greening, Condra.” (dramatic)
        Some fans may not appreciate him but I’m pretty sure that the majority of true fans, the players and front office do and that is what is important.

        • Miguel

          I hope you are right Pez, but from what I read in the papers, on this board, and some of the guys I play hockey with, Spezza is seriously undervalued in this city… again may be just me, but that is what I have seen

          • runningbear1974

            Spezza gets 7 million a year, if he is undervalued it’s not by much…

          • Miguel

            by the fans media and his coach, not in terms of $$$ value… again in my opinion

          • thepez

            I hear it as well. At work at hockey on the radio, but I truly believe the guy is appreciated by the majority.
            I really believe that talented players like Spezza, EK65 etc… are great because they try different things. There are times that I wish Spezza did not do the drop pass or the no look pass or whatever, but it sure beats dump and chase hockey. He as well as EK65 have to become a bit more cautious but I certainly do not want the creativity to be taken away from them.

          • peetypuck

            You realize that Spezza, Michalek and Hemsky were minus 1′s last night? They were on the ice again for Pitt’s only 5 on 5 goal.

          • thepez

            You do realize that Spezza is the only player on the team that can pull off that dirty dirty deke in the shooutout?

          • peetypuck

            It’s like having two Spezzas. The minus player and the player that can dazzle you with his unbelievable skill.

    • The Apostle

      “We do not deserve his magic anymore, this city seems to only admire plugs”

      This from the guy who has spent the best part of two years complaining about Jim O’Brien not getting a game.

      Other than the convenient memory loss I agree with pretty much everything in the post. Spezza has been unfairly criticsed throughout his time in Ottawa but he has to accept some of what has been levelled at him. he has been difficult to find wingers for and that has lead us to try and push all sorts of crap on his line. cause and effect.

      He also can’t deny that he has issues defensively, but of course that is never an issue when the team is winning.

      But looking at it long term and with a eye to history, when was the last time a team won the Stanley Cup with a #1 centre who wasn’t a 200 ft player. It doesn’t happen any more. I think Spezza is a great player, but he’s also an immensely frustrating one. I think that a judicious trade, getting back 1 or 2 assets that fit MacLeans systems (as I think he stays) will benefit the Sens more than keeping Spezza.

      • Miguel

        O’Brien was leading the team in goals when he was banished, never to be seen again… so yes I was questioning why? And yes he has better hands than Neil, Greening and Condra.. thanks
        If your asking who should we keep Spezza or PMac… than I say Spezza, cause PMac cannot play the 200ft game either.

        • The Apostle

          So when he was the leading scorer of a team with 5 goals you thought we might have the next Ovechkin on our hands? Of course you didn’t because presumably you saw what we all saw which was an average player on a hot streak.

          Chris Neil has scored 10 or more goals in a season 5 times. Greening, despite his troubles last season still averages a goal every 6 games in over 225 games.

          Neil doesn’t score beautiful goal scorer goals but he gets his hands dirty which is something JOB never did. Maybe the biggest indictment of O’Brien’s career that he was able to clear waivers. Knowing our luck he’ll get re-signed next year because he’s cheap.

        • Max Power

          O’brien just seemed creepy… especially if you check out his twitter.

          Would not be surprised if the coach just hated him

          • Miguel

            yes, which is another problem I have wtih PMac, he has his pets that can never do any wrong, and will never sit,
            ie Cowen, Greening Condra, Neil, Smith, and in my opinion this cost us the playoffs

    • Zelle

      “We do not deserve his magic anymore, this city seems to only admire
      plugs, who can play the game better without a stick in their hand ala
      Neil, Greening, Condra.”

      Wow bold statement. I have yet to see a Condra jersey worn by a fan. I’ve seen one Greening, and a few Neil jerseys, which makes sense as he’s been with the org for a very long time. What I do see is plenty of Spezza, Alfie, Ryan, Fisher jerseys. Are those guys plugs? Also why is up to you to judge people on their favorite player? We’re all Sens fans here and all any of us want is for the team to win the Cup.

    • not YOUR wingman

      Worst post you’ve ever made

      Plugs like Alfredsson / Redden / Hossa / Karlsson ?

      No Back Spezza has 1 or 2 good seasons left.
      Trading him to a major contender would make sense for him and both teams.

      • Miguel

        3 of those were run out of town?

        • two to Tootoo too

          Badly mishandled by a senile Muckler and the drunk too often Melnyk does not equal “being run out of town”

  • karlssens

    With all the d men we have next year, I think there’s a chance Ceci plays the year in bingo. He’s only 20, and I’d like to see him own competition for a year. He was a point getter in Bingo, and kind of turned into a shut down guy in Ottawa.

    All I’m saying is that I don’t want him to shy away from his offensive game and become Phillips. He needs to hone his offense agaisnt men.

    • Miguel

      oh god please not a Phillips!

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Great comparison… He is one of the biggest? For me

    • zBernatchez

      I really believe they should of kept him down in the ahl. Look at Detroit they don’t bring anyone up unless they will have a permanent roster spot.

    • Don Ciccio

      No need for Ceci to go back to Bingo next year….He is going down for their playoff run and should get enough exposure to being the offensive guy again down there during that time…..He proved that he belongs in the NHL and was probably our 3rd best d-man all year. His offensive game will come and all he needs to do is work on releasing his shot quicker, and he will start to get his points because he knows how and when to jump into the attack already.

      • MethotToMyMadness

        I’m excited to see how Ceci’s NHL experience carries over into the AHL playoffs.

        • Don Ciccio

          So am I….I think Bingo has a great chance to win it all again….The only question mark is goaltending.

    • Brutus5247

      Isn’t going to happen Ceci will be up. Gryba will be gone if a 2 way right handed d man is brought in. Maybe the Leafs or Bruins will pick him up. As a class 6 RFA arbitration is the likely scenario. He either signs/accepts what is offered OR he applies for arbitration. At this point Ottawa can accept the arbitrators award or let him walk. He can only be traded after he signs.

      • CUP 2014-15

        I personally don’t like the idea of moving our best PK Dman this year and his numbers from +- to corsi are excellent. just me though, I like Dmen that can play in the DZone.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Barry Trotz not returning to Nashville. Teams will be lined up to hire that guy.

    • Pasky

      FIRE MACLEAN!!!!

      lol just jokes, but I don’t think Barry will be a free agent for long

    • Miguel

      let me guess…. he is heading to the Laffs :-)

    • whammer44

      I’m sure the centre of the universe will be looking at Trotz as a replacement to Carlyle

    • Sandy

      Maybe a good chance he lands in Vancouver?

  • spezzerman

    any reason why Hoffman was not returned to bingo today along with the others who were?

    • whammer44

      He would have to clear waivers as they have no options left on him

      • Miguel

        Interesting that the others can go down but he cant,
        too bad as I am sure he would have liked to help with the playoff push down there

        • Deadly

          I am sure he would rather be on the Sens roster in the NHL. He has spent more time in the AHL than he planned.

          • Miguel

            very true

          • MethotToMyMadness

            He’s spent more time in Bingo, than any of the current players on the roster. That’s why he’s been talked about so often as the next Bingo guy to land a spot, that and he was on a tear this year. They gave him plenty of chances. I’m just happy he finally stuck.

            He is slated to play in the All Stars or something though, right?

          • Deadly

            He did already at the mid season point.

  • peetypuck

    Can we ever win a cup with Spezza?

    • two to Tootoo too

      No – his time has passed – he’s got only 1 or 2 decent years left in his fragile back

    • SensChirp

      See, I think this is such a stupid question. Impossible to answer unless you know who else is on the team.

      Can Chicago win with Toews? Yes, but because they surround him with Kane, Sharp, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook, etc.

      • peetypuck

        Put it this way then. Do the Sens have a better chance with or without Spezza?
        Do the Black Hawks win the cup without Toews and replace him with Spezza?

        • FistsofNeil25

          That’s a bad example though.. Toews is one of the best, if not the very best player in the world. You could replace Toews with almost any other center in the game and they may not win the cup. That’s how valuable of a player he is. He’s a big game player that is willing and able to do anything and everything that it takes to win.

          • peetypuck

            I didn’t bring Toews up. SC did in comparison with Spezza. So was my question any more stupid than his answer was?

          • runningbear1974

            What is the shittiest player you could have replaced Toews such that you still win the cup?
            Crosby, Bergeron, Hall, Turris?

          • A-Train

            This is a good time to go back and read the Mendes column about captains and the Andrew Ladd comparison. There’s a certain type of player your more conservative hockey fan loves to love….but having him on your team guarantees nothing.

          • FistsofNeil25

            That’s because there’s no such thing as a guarantee in professional sports. You can never guarantee winning a championship, all you can do is make your odds as good as possible.

          • peetypuck

            Spezza will be 31 with a bad back. It might be time to trade him in for a newer model. He might only have two good years left. Right now he still has a lot value to a team like St Louis, Anaheim and LA. He can be the #2 centre on those teams and provide a lot of offense while their window of opportunity is open. As long as they’re willing to give up something good for him in prospects or draft picks.

          • FistsofNeil25

            You don’t have to convince me. I’ve been on the trade Spezza bandwagon all season long and my opinion hasn’t changed.

            I just think it’s the right move for Spezza to go to a team that’s closer to contending, and it’s the right move for the Sens in the grand scheme of things. Cash out on Spezza now and collect some assets that will help improve this team when it’s window of opportunity is open.

            We can’t risk losing Spezza for nothing as a UFA and it just doesn’t make sense to commit big money and term to a guy with his injury history.

          • peetypuck

            I just hope that he doesn’t act like Heatley or Nash by refusing a good trade this summer. Or worse, refusing any trade like Brad Richards in Dallas. He still has his UFA status next July.

      • Zelle

        This is true. Look at Crosby “the best player in the world” yet only one Cup. If it was only on a single player it wouldn’t be a team game.

      • runningbear1974

        It’s not a stupid question… It’s fun to think about these things… What would require for Spezza to win cup? Probably a solid veteran d core…

        • SensChirp

          Well that wasn’t the question. Can the Senators win with Spezza? The answer is yes. Same as it would be for every single player in the NHL. A different question, and it has nothing to do with Spezza, is what do the Ottawa Senators need to do to win a Stanley Cup?

          • runningbear1974

            oops… i agree with you…

          • peetypuck

            I look at the Boston Bruins. They decided they had a better chance without Jumbo Joe and traded him. Boston now has a Stanley Cup while San Jose spin their wheels every year in the playoffs despite surrounding him with great players.

          • Doc

            Ohh, you’re gonna be a fun one!

          • peetypuck

            Are we here to discuss the Sens or try to rip one another apart?

          • peetypuck

            I mean really, we’re all discussing hypotheticals. Melnyk and Murray will make their decisions no matter what we think.

          • Doc

            Discuss what you want!

            I’m here for the show.

          • Colin

            Trade Doc!!! This team will never win with him!!

          • peetypuck

            We’re going to have fun with him. LOL

          • runningbear1974

            oops… i agree with you… I’m not ready to answer that question yet, but i’ll try in the summer time…

    • FistsofNeil25

      That’s a strange way to put it. Can the Ottawa Senators win a cup with Spezza? Sure they can. It takes more than one player to win the cup.

      Can this current Ottawa Senators team win the Cup with Spezza? Helllll no….not even close. I think we’re a few years away before our window of opportunity begins to open, especially if we continue to operate under an internal budget.

      I think Spezza could go to a good team like St Louis, Anaheim, Minnesota, New York, etc and be the missing piece to the puzzle. I think I team CAN win with Jason Spezza as a part of it’s roster, and that team would require great supporting pieces around him like any contending team has.

      At this point in his career, I don’t think Spezza can be the key piece to build a contender around. However, I think he could go elsewhere to a current contending team, or a team close to contention where he won’t be looked upon to be “the guy” and help put that team over the top.

      I don’t think the Sens are close to contending with or without Spezza.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        Pretty bang on…I suspect if some of the teams that have been on fire all season in the West lose first round that we may have a better idea of where he ends up

      • peetypuck

        The problem in Ottawa is Spezza has to be the key piece. Anything less would be an insult to him.

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          I don’t think that this is true…Is he a legit top line player, absolutely…does he think he has to be the outright best player on the team…I know for a fact he doesn’t think this way(well at least he didn’t about 4 years ago, sure I suppose things could have changed but he never came across like that to me).

          If you send Spezza to a team where he is a #1b/2 center he will be an absolute beast

          • peetypuck

            I should have said anything less “could” be an insult to him. I have never met him.

      • The Apostle

        I don’t think a team can win a cup if Spezza is their best centre.

    • runningbear1974

      Yes, it is possible… I’ve thought of a couple of scenarios…
      1) If Spezza wanted to win the rocket richard, and tried to score 50 goals… He’s a great goal scorer, it’s a shame he prefers to pass…
      2) If Spezza played on the 3rd line, then he would get easier opposition… And defensive mistakes would be less costly…

      • peetypuck

        I think the concensus is that Spezza is not the key piece but a better #2 centre at this stage of his career.

        • runningbear1974

          Depends on Spezza… He was injured, so his workouts were based on his recovery … Now he’s fine… He can workout however he wants…That will affect the next 10 years for him… We need a spy to see exactly how he’s working out this summer…

  • jimmyjohnson

    You’re welcome

  • jimmyjohnson

    I was never fully aboard the fire Maclean train, but I would do it instantly if Trotz would agree to coach here. I’m not happy with Maclean’s decisions, but I’d give him more time to grow as a coach generally before I fired him (if I was in charge of such things) but Trotz’s availability changes the coaching landscape drastically. The last thing any of us want to see is Maclean getting outcoached by Trotz 5 times every season while he leads the Leafs back to the post-season… I know his results haven’t been tops every year, but as far as maximizing with what you’re given, this guy gets the job done every single time!!

    Fire Maclean, Hire Trotz = jimmy’s a happy Sens fan.
    Fire Maclean, Hire Boucher = jimmy is dubious but hopeful
    Keep Maclean = jimmy jimmy jimmmy jimmy

    • Simple Jack

      I wish you could type in redneck to give us the full effect…

      • jimmyjohnson

        Me too.. That would be helpful.

    • two to Tootoo too

      if Paul MacLean is fired then Melnyk’s boyfriend will get the job

      be careful what you wish for

    • Zelle

      Leafs have more problems then just coaching. I think a good draft system and farm team is the key to success now. You get guys to build chemistry together on the farm and then you bring them to play in the NHL and you don’t have to worry about changing it up. Additionally, the players also get to grow in the organization and perhaps have a little more pride in the team they are playing for.

      • two to Tootoo too
        • spezzerman

          this is a few years old…23 straight years is just nuts

          • two to Tootoo too

            yeah – I know it’s old but I’m not a chart making savant like SC

          • I’m just sayin’

            Detroit hasn’t had a top 15 draft pick since 1991 and here they are in the Playoffs yet again

          • runningbear1974

            Detroit built off the great leadership of Bowman, and Yzerman…

          • Brutus5247

            Detroit spends and is not afraid to pay the bucks to UFA’s

          • runningbear1974

            I think they drafted Yzerman and Lidstrom, and traded for Shanahan… And built a solid leadership mentality from then on… That wasn’t money, that was smart… And since then they’ve been able to fill in roster with money…

          • spezzerman

            thats not how or why they are successful, if that is what you are implying.

          • Brutus5247

            Part of the whole package.

          • jimmyjohnson

            ?? What big name UFA’s have they brought in?

            Hossa for 1 year? Alfie for 1 year? who else?

          • jimmyjohnson

            I think Ken Holland deserves at least a little bit of the credit lol

        • Zelle

          Exactly. I’m really hopeful they are bringing that mind set to the Senators organization. The farm system seems to be working (Zbad, Ceci, Silfv, Pageau, Hoffman, Stone) and I honestly believe that the coach’s weird decisions were based on taking reign on the team and making sure they understand the individual doesn’t run the room and that it’s all about long term thinking. I might be wrong, of course. In any case, if I’m right, I don’t mind having a so-so team while all of the work pays off and we have a quality team in a quality organization.

      • jimmyjohnson

        They have already been doing that though. They’ve got a very good young core (JVR, Kessel, Kadri, Reilly, Gardiner, Bernier) and some good complimentary pieces (Bozak, Gunnarsson, Lupul, Clarkson, Bolland, Gleason) and a lot of home grown talent waiting to fill roles (Holland, D’Amigo, Granberg, Biggs, Percy, Finn, Leivo, Brown).

        They aren’t a team that you look at at the start of the season and think “wow, that team is going to dominate” but they’re definitely a playoff team. Even this season, with some spots on the team filled with plugs, they were definitely a playoff caliber lineup.

        Add in a coach like Trotz, who consistently gets mediocre clubs to compete against the best in the league, and they could almost definitely make noise.

        IMO Trotz is one of the 3 best coaches in the league.

        • jimmyjohnson

          Actually, if they iced a team with those players listed above, minus Biggs, Brown, and possibly Leivo, they would definitely make the playoffs next season…even just with adequate coaching.

        • Zelle

          Only Reilly and Kadri are from the farm though correct? The rest were all trades/acquisitions? And both of them had a so-so season. Not sure about the ones waiting in the system still as I was just reading about how they don’t have that much to go with and the team is mostly trades and UFAs. And it’s not just having good players but it’s about having them learn what’s needed and knowing when to bring them up.

          • jimmyjohnson

            yep that’s fair. Some of their kids are good though (D’Amigo and Granberg in particular).

  • SensChirp

    Hard to know what to make of Spezza’s comments today but essentially I think it comes down to this- He is willing to play another season in Ottawa but also wants to know what teams are interested via trade.

    Certainly doesn’t sound ready to talk extension.

    • Miguel

      not the words of someone who is determined t finish his career here.
      Honestly, who can blame him? Daily he is forced to listien to his shortcomings in this city, as a scorer, as a Selke winner, and as a leader. And he is not sold on this team for the next year or so, and perhaps a top team that can contend for the next couple of years really wants him.
      That is the sign of a true champion that wants to win a cup.
      Are you listening Phillips!

      • jimmyjohnson

        “Selke Winner” implies that he’s been one.

        “Selke caliber player”

    • MethotToMyMadness

      I haven’t heard the comments from Spezza, but how can any player in this league, flat out say no to a possibility of being a Free Agent?

      For NHL Players, it’s basically the biggest promotion of your Career. Some players only experience it once, some more than others, but it’s a major money maker with Teams lining up to line your pockets. As much as you have loyalties, this is a job, and money walks.

    • peetypuck

      He might resent Melnyk or Murray because of how Alfie left last July. On the other hand his agent may want him to play hard to get to get a better contract.

    • Mat

      This is disheartning.
      I don’t blame Spezza for wanting to go where he could better appreciated. I would like to see him sign an extention. 5 years. Home town discount. But this seems less and less likely now. And what does this mean with the other players? Hemsky? Bobby? Karlsson down the line?? Spezza leaving will have very long term repercussions.
      And who becomes the next scapegoat?
      I’m glad he had a decent season (+/- aside) cause that means his value WILL fetch a better return but I doubt we get equal value. A trade that would make sense in my books is Spezza + Wiercioch + Smith for Eberle and Edmonton’s 1st this year (top 3 most likely – could be first overall). But that’s just what I would want… : ) I don’t think Spezza would fuss about going to Edmonton. Not like Meatly.

      • sprucesens

        the trade I proposed to my oiler’s fan friends at the start of the year, was spezza, cowen and Anderson for Nuge and Eberle. They wouldn’t bite. lol. money probably works, and the roles certainly fit. They obviously have upgraded their goalie situation then, and cowen lost virtually all value this year, but I thought it was a solid trade for both teams. We get young and get a top line winger, replace spezz with nuge on 2c/3c. Cowen gets to be the top guy with Schultz, and they have no other D really… And they needed a goalie at the time, but not as much anymore.

    • Skeleton

      MacLean presser to start now.

      He won’t say this but, I know for 100% certainty that the delay in naming a captain this offseason was due to Murray wanting to name Spezza and MacLean wanting to name Phillips.

      With that said, this offseason, one of MacLean and Spezza will be gone. They will not work together again.

      That should be your poll SensChirp! If you had to pick one, who goes this offseason, Spezza or MacLean?

      That is what it will come down too in my opinion.

    • Sandy

      I heard he say he wants to stay in Ottawa.. Did I miss something?
      Contract talks also will come into this…
      The biggest question, will Melnyk pony up $$ for raises to Ryan, McArthur, Methot — and to re-sign Anderson (who also wants to stay in Ottawa), Spezza & Michalek.
      After hearing Hemsky’s comments today.. I don’t think he stays. He wants to play in the playoffs… I don’t blame him for that.
      If teams like Det, StL, Ana, SJ, Ana, etc come calling.. he is gone. The Sens can’t guarantee they will make the playoffs next season… especially if Spezza is gone.. This team will take another step back if #19 is not back..

  • MethotToMyMadness

    Happy we finished off the Season with a bang. Yes, the opposing teams were not all playing with a full lineup, but we put down the Leafs and topped them, which is a win in my books.

    We got ourselves into what looks like 21st overall. So while there is a chance the Ducks could get a very good pick, the odds are heavily against it. That is another bonus.

    So now it’s time to listen to all the rumours, will/won’t Spezza be back? What happens to PMac? And the biggest of all, will they resign Kassian? ;)

    Let the off season officially begin!

  • Miguel

    glad to see the results are so positive about Spezza coming back.
    But my question to all the yes voters is what would make him want to extend here, rather than testing UFA?

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      I too am glad that its overwhelming YES(although I voted no) but I suspect a lot of people are answering if they want him back, not if he will be back

      • Doc

        Bingo.

    • A-Train

      Without clarity from Melnyck about what he’s willing to spend on the team as a whole, it’s really tough to say what a good number would be for Spezza.

      • Sandy

        If Melnyk truly wants to win.. he has to put the money into the team..

    • runningbear1974

      comfort… Bryan Murray… sense of responsibility…

  • WaitingSince92

    Surprised to see the amount of fans who think MacLean will be fired (or who WANT him to be). Here is my guarantee – YOU ARE WRONG and he will be back next year. No-brainer.

    You don’t just lose your coaching ability overnight. Where were all the detractors when he was winning the Jack Adams? He was the same coach, but with an overachieving team.

    I know he’s made some questionable decisions this year, but I think his hand was forced by a few factors (lack of obvious lines/chemistry, lack of $, lack of 1 or even 2 top 4 Dmen).

  • WaitingSince92

    I think Spezza is weary from the Alfie situation. All those years spending all that money and now Jason probably feels that the organization is expecting a hometown discount. Spezza (rightfully) is a PPG player who deserves the $ he gets. Probably not looking forward to being jerked around/low-balled during negotiations…

    • runningbear1974

      I think Spezza is one of the few who knows what really happened with Alfie…

      • peetypuck

        I think Alfie called Spez and told him the whole story. Melnyk caused the team a lot of damage last year in his drunken stupor.

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Seems you know exactly what happened too…so guess Spezza isn’t one of few….or maybe he is and all the fans are way off.

          • peetypuck

            I think Spezza mentioned last summer that Alfie had called him to explain the situation. The Melnyk part I read here.

          • WaitingSince92

            I think we got a pretty good idea of fans of what happened with Alfie. Not all of it specifically came to light, but you can put together a pretty good picture based on what happened, and what Melnyk, Murray, Alfie and Barry said.

            Alfie took hometown discount(s). For his last contract, he seemed willing to stay, but wanted full value. He assumed the organization would give it to him, but they low-balled him and cried ‘budget’!!!

            Alfie wants to win the cup, not get good value per point… I think both parties assumed they were on the same page, but clearly weren’t.

          • WaitingSince92

            ANYWAY, the point of all of this, I think, is that Spezza has
            decided he won’t be treated like Alfie was, that is to say, like he owes
            the franchise anything. Good on him.

            Maybe he thought there was a good shot at being a lifetime Senator before the Alfie debacle. Seeing him happy in Detroit, maybe Jason wants to be a supporting character instead of a burdened captain. He could get overpaid, pay less taxes, get more sun, and compete for the cup somewhere else.

            A lot of reading-between-the-lines and assumptions there, but being a complementary cup

          • peetypuck

            I thought he wanted to be a lifetime Senator also. Bryan Murray gave him his chance to be traded three years ago when he started the rebuild but Spezza wanted to stay. Obviously something has changed his mind. Quite possibly the treatment that Alfie received. Maybe that’s why he had such a lousy year. I think he was a plus 86 up to this point in his career.

    • Brutus5247

      And more against however.

  • A-Train

    Spezza would be one of the top 2015 UFAs. How often does a first line centre hit that status? Almost never. Many teams … including big spenders like Toronto … want a veteran first line centre.

    Bottom line: Spezza is looking at a potentially astronomical payday if he hits UFA.

    • Doc

      If he really wants to hit the FA market, than why not help out the team that drafted you by accepting a trade in the off-season? In a year, he will still get to test out the market and get his big pay day.

      • A-Train

        All sound logic. But “help out the team that drafted you” rarely seems to be a motivation for pro players anywhere.

        My read on the situation is Spezza would sign lifer deal with Ottawa if he thought the team was on the right track. I think the ownership situation and a coach who seemed not to set him up for success have forced him to rethink. The kids are still very young and in life terms so is Spezza. Might be a nice time to take the family on a new (and very lucrative) adventure.

        • Doc

          Oh I totally agree. It was more about the end result being the same (big pay day), so why not help out your current (and only) team in the process.

          • A-Train

            I think another motiving factor could be his age. If he does want to be a big contributor on a true contender, waiting another year could be a long(ish) time.

          • Doc

            This situation will get over-analysed until we see what happens near draft day. Could be a defining moment for the franchise, that’s for sure.

  • Doc

    I think a lot of people misinterpreted the poll question.

    • SensChirp

      Was surprised how many expected him to be back. You think people are answering whether or not they want him to be back?

      • Doc

        I think so, but if that isn’t the case I’m really surprised at the results.

        • SensChirp

          It would mean that approximately 30% of people read what I write haha

          • Doc

            Sorry Chirp! lol

          • sbs138

            maybe people really believe that he will be back, because management would be dumb to trade him, unless we are getting a sure #1C back in the deal. how long have we needed to have a good centre to play behind him? now we have one in Turris and we are going to let our superstar centre go? IMO, it would be crazy and stupid.

          • Ian Robinson

            You’re also assuming that if people read what you wrote then they automatically assume he won’t be back. And here I thought we could think for our own. I’m not meaning to be disrespectful I just – well I read what you wrote – and while their were good points in it, I still don’t feel that Ottawa does this.

            Also, the notion that they’d get less at the deadline is kind of perplexing for someone of Spezza’s talent. I say, sign Hemsky, and Spezza may be willing to take that discount that I’m the only one who thinks he’d take.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        I am fairly certain people haven’t read what you wrote :(

      • A-Train

        I think the subtlety in your question got buried in the avalanche of SPEZZA BAD1!!! vs SPEZZ GOOD!1! sentiment on here.

        • Doc

          It also lacked a Chirp table which we all have come to love.

      • LeafsSux

        I read the article and truly believe that he will be back.. After last off seasons debacle we cant afford another. We proved this year what a young inexperienced defense can do.. Do we really want to get rid of our captain 2 years in a row? I think the organization wants to re-sign Jason im not so sure he wants to.. JMHO

    • Miguel

      yah I sadly answered NO, as I do not think we will be able to keep him here long term, and if not then we had better get something back for him.
      But for those who understood and answered YES, again, after all we hear on this board, why would people think he will be back?

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Hey Chirp, the work you do putting together great articles is much appreciated by myself and others. You are very knowledgeable and cant ask for a better blogger. On the other hand, it really seems like this group of guys love playing for eachother and I really think our great play of late shows that. They have faith in this team and so do I. It was a rough season but look at guys like Macarthur and Bobby, they want to stay with this team for long term. Now really it all comes down to Murray and Melnyk and they better open the bank and sign these boys ASAP. GO SENS GO

  • Simple Jack

    Hey chirp why dont you go to team events like today and ask questions?

    People buy newspapers to read about city news, not just sens news…

    Wouldnt you be “the” sens news guy?
    You only cover sens, it makes sense to me. I put u in the same kind of role as ian mendez.

    Btw with tsn covering games from now on i expect a different level of officiating since it will now be under the microscope of the tsn pannel.

    • Patrick Weirdcock

      I agree! I would very much prefer to see reliable ol SC asking questions than a lot of the TSN and Sportsnet reporters currently covering the team.

      Is there something we (the loyal fanbase) could do to help get SensChirp into media events, or even the locker room to ask some of these tough questions?

  • Brutus5247

    You’ll never have El Celler de can Roca food at MAcDonalds prices. You get what you pay for and UNTIL Eugeno spends money bringing in solid UFA’s we will be a middle road team. This is not a hobby for him, it is a business and when fans don’t go to the games for whatever reason they are helping him decide who and what he can afford. The TV money will help but he ultimately wants a profit. Can’t blame him. Seems like many posters think that spending an extra 12 mil on cap will be made back in attendance. 12 mil at lets say 137 ticket ave is 87, 000 extra attendance needed divided by 41 games is basically another 2130 paid patrons per game. Don’t know if Ottawa could do that for every game? And thats just to break even. You also look at Toronto who averages 367/ticket and sold out every game and you wonder why we can’t compete financially. Must be a lot of fans with no business experience who demand cap spending.

  • do due dew doodoo

    Boo Boo has written his annual team grades report card
    (not allowed to post a link here for some reason)

    No F grade for TEAM OWNER is the obvious flaw in the article.

    • Doc

      MacLean lower grade then the Defense is just… lol

      Not like the Sun has direct ties to ownership or anything… *cough*

      • do due dew doodoo

        Boo Boo always gets to be first in line at the buffet table in the press box

  • Jordan

    Thank you chirp. Even through the darkest times of this past season you always found ways to keep positive.

    Although i will disagree with you on the phiilps signing i found myself agreeing with 98% of your posts. Love this site and look forward to binghamton making another run at a cup and turris lighten mup’ for team Canada.

  • Hax

    Best case scenario (to me) is that Spezza wants to stay here and be part of a much better season next year (and beyond). And that Murray is able to offer a fair contract (Spezza’s not likely to take any sort of home-town discount though hopefully he’s not looking to hold us hostage either).

    But if he really doesn’t want to be here then we need to line up a sign-and-trade this summer. He’s got a no trade clause so he can pick the team before the “sign” part etc. No way would we get full value for Spezza if he’s just a one-year rental. I wish his cap situation was reversed (low cap hit, high actual dollars) as that would probably make him easier to trade to a top team.

    I’m worried about Turris having to be the #1 with no buffer, and by extension Zibanejad as 2C, but I think Turris has it in him.

    Plus, if Spezza does get traded then we can tell Ryan that he’s pretty much a lock on the first line (now that it’s Turris) if he extends.

    Hemsky sounds like he’d be gone without Spezza but if that’s the case then so be it.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      The Hemsky being gone is being taken almost as out of context as people assuming Ryan will sign in Philly after next year….Everyone is reading WAY too much into a single comment.

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      Hax, not sure if you noticed but sign and trades (of Hossa for Heatley) is what’s led to all the no-trade clauses on the team the past few years. Spezza (and Ryan/Hemsky I imagine) won’t sign a long-term deal without a no-trade clause. It’s a miracle that Bryan didn’t give one to Karlsson when he signed his deal.

      We’re not getting full value for return for Spezz but at this point it might be betterto just let another team handle him (and for us to feast on Spezza when he’s on the ice against us…60% possession vs. Spezza? Yes please!)

      TOOKS100%OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Hax

        Not surprised you didn’t understand my post. To clarify, any sign-and-trade would need to be something Spezza agrees to in advance. Hence this sentence: “He’s got a no trade clause so he can pick the team before the “sign” part etc.”.

  • Jordan

    Can we get ice girls for next season?? And maybe some new jerseys? We have the best color combo and somehow we end up with some of the most boring jerseys. Herotage jerseys are good for 3rd jerseys but i love our spartan logo. Just a random thought.

    • A-Train

      I hope the Senators resist the lure of “ice girls”. My 2-year-old daughter already loves watching hockey with me. Don’t think she needs that message. Hate to be a buzzkill…but there it is.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        Agree 10000000000%

        The ice girls also look like they are all 14 so really if anything they are accomplishing the opposite goal. If you insist on getting cheerleaders go the NBA/NFL route and get bombshells and pay them accordingly….hiring high school girls and paying them minimum wage is just gross

        • A-Train

          Yeah, with cheerleaders, whatever. They’re at least doing something they’ve worked on (though the product is debatable).

          The Ice Girls phenomenon is just gross though. And if that wasn’t enough…many here in Toronto have linked the girls arrival to the team’s swoon. Just sayin.

      • Doc

        LIES!!! ALL LIES!!

      • Simple Jack

        I have daughters too, if they can make money by being a sens ice girl while in university i wont be embarassed, cheer leaders are not strippers or hookers… they might be puck bunnies but would u mind if your daughter hooked up with an nhl’er?? Didnt think so, ice girls are fine with me.

        • A-Train

          Where in my comment to I mention stripping, prostitution or dating hockey players?

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            A-Train…you’ve been here long enough to know that it doesn’t matter what you say, people respond to what they wanted you to say.

          • Zelle

            I think Simple Jack wanted to have girls so he could more easily get his jersey signed.

      • Doc

        In all seriousness, I understand where you’re coming from, but are 6’5 guys trying to take their heads off any better of a message? I know they are more ‘part’ of the sport, but I’d like to know your thoughts on this.

        • A-Train

          That’s a fair point. And to be honest I do find it a little difficult to answer my 2 and 4-year-old children when they ask me why the hockey players are fighting. It’s awkward.

          But I grew up watching it and seemed to turn out just fine. The Ice Girls thing is new(ish) though, and if it’s a choice between introducing this as a permanent part of the fan experience or not, I’d go with not.

          • Doc

            Fair points! Thanks.

          • Zelle

            I just don’t think cheerleaders add anything to the game. Most are nice though, at least when I’ve talked to them, and it gives them jobs, and Canada does need more jobs. It’s not like NFL though where they have a field to do tricks. They’re basically just on the stairs doing trivial cheering.

          • A-Train

            Just to be clear, we are talking about Ice Girls here not cheerleaders. Ice Girls shovel the ice between whistles while wearing revealing outfits. If you are worried about jobs, there is already someone doing this job — usually a dumpy guy in a windbreaker.

          • Zelle

            Oh yeah I had no idea what ice girls were. Personally I’m fine the the guys in full outfits doing it lol Nothing adds to watching the game for me, ice girls or cheerleaders /shrug at least in the NFL they can do flips and stuff.

    • Yukon Cornelius

      If you want to look at boobs you have the internet. Ice girls are just a gimmicky add-on non-hockey markets have for no real reason, I would be pretty against Ottawa having them.

    • not YOUR wingman

      go to the local strip club, loser

      • Doc

        Easy tiger. What’s with the hate?

    • Brutus5247

      Kind of a US cheerleader spin off. I have no problem doing it if they are dressed appropriately in Yoga pants and Sens Jerseys. Don’t need a boob show.

  • peetypuck

    Thank You Senschirp for such a great site. Where else can a guy get any news about the Sens on such a consistent basis.

  • sens_bud

    Are the player interviews from today available online somewhere?

  • MoeDozer

    havent had a chance to read the comments but i personally want spezza to stay. no matter what we the trade will be, we will be on the losing end. you just almost never get a chance to trade a superstar and get equal or better value back, its just how it works.

    also can someone explain me his NTC… i mean yeah it would be amazing to get someone like evander kane from the peg..but cant spezza say no i do not want to play there?

    • Doc

      What if Spezza wants to move on, or wants to test the FA market? We lose him for nothing, only to get one last year with him?

      As for his NTC, it’s a ‘full’ NTC, which means he cannot be traded without his consent.

    • sprucesens

      I would expect we would get a similar return to what we gave up for bobby ryan. Similar offensive player, with different game. Less term, less money, but higher cap hit. Changes completely if its a sign and trade. I still think its 3 very good pieces, or 2 excellent pieces.

      • A-Train

        There’s another factor though: Spezza has a NTC, so the Senators have less leverage in a trade.

        Partly for that reason, expect a lesser return than what we gave up for Ryan.

        • Jakester

          I’m fine with two pieces, addition by substraction as well. Time to have a hard working team!

      • MoeDozer

        i dont disagree i just wish more sens fans appreciated and understood how rare it is to have a career PPG player with 687points in 686 games. that is not replaceable.
        but if there is a team out there needing a 1C and willing to give up major pieces for it, and spezza wants to move then you do it.

        first line centers just dont grow on trees.

        Id be stoked if next year we are starting the year with a motivated team that features a top 6 including 3 former 30g+ scorers:
        mac – turris – ryan
        LW (milo?) – spezza – hemsky

        with young guns like stone, zibanejad, hoffman, pageu and my current fav in bingo matt puempel who has 29goals with 3 games left to hit 30 as a rookie! surprised he isnt talked about more often. hes even dropped the gloves 7 times this year.

        if we do move spezza, i really hope we get back a solid top 2 Dman, or atleast a 2way center. we do not need more wingers. we may not even need more centers if the team is ready to hand the 2C to zibby

  • SensChirp

    MacLean’s media availability here beginning at 3:25 PM.

    http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=616&id=603928

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    I still hate NTC there should be clauses worked into them that if the player requests it then it should be bare minimum partially voided

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Or GMs(since really thats who is at fault) should stop handing them out so readily and if you want to reward players only offer LNTC…if every GM did this they would disappear, it works in their favor.

  • Skeleton

    MacLean presser to start now.

    He won’t say this but, I know for 100% certainty that the delay in naming a captain this offseason was due to Murray wanting to name Spezza and MacLean wanting to name Phillips.

    With that said, this offseason, one of MacLean and Spezza will be gone. They will not work together again.

    That should be your poll SensChirp! If you had to pick one, who goes this offseason, Spezza or MacLean?

    That is what it will come down too.

    • sprucesens

      good lord, if it was maclean that wants Phillips to be captain, then it needs to be maclean that’s gone. He(Phillips) barely showed that he can still play in the NHL, let alone lead a team

      • Brutus5247

        Actually I think Phillips would have be a better captain than Spezza. At least Phillips tried hard despite his shortcomings. Spezza floated around for 2/3 of the season. Your captain must play a two way game. The guy only acts like a captain when they get him a new winger.

      • Zelle

        In Maclean’s defense here, how was he supposed to know Phillips would be so bad this season?

        • Miguel

          take a look at his last 2 seasons, and that should tell where he was heading… and on that note, he will be worse after this year and next year… really an idiotic signing

        • runningbear1974

          Phillips got better on the powerplay… Just a little bit… But, i think being put on powerplay helped Philips’ play a little better… Now he has to work extra hard to deal with aging body…

        • sprucesens

          i would say phillips has been 3rd pairing quality on our team since volchenkov left. But we haven’t had anyone better to put above him. Brutus made a good point, where phillips does try hard, he just doesn’t have it in the tank anymore though. But either way, i think if spezza moves on, we should too. Go with the new core, any of karlsson, turris, zib, ryan, macA, methot get the letters in my opinion

      • Skeleton

        Couldn’t disagree more with you. On this Sens team, there would’ve been no better option to start the 2013-14 year.

        You saw what happened with Spezza’s leadership and the only other option (right or wrong) would have been Phillips.

    • Brutus5247

      Get nothing for McLean.

    • Zelle

      Any chance you can post updates of key bits of the presser? I’ll be at work late tonight and it’s nice to read this blog during down times lol

      • Skeleton

        Quotes from the MacLean Presser:

        - You have to play well enough long enough. We didn’t do that.

        - We just didn’t defend well enough.

        - We played well with the puck but when we turned it over.

        - Not good enough as head coach. Lot of blame to go around, lots can be on me. My job as head coach is to find solutions

        - In the third year as a Coach, I made a conscious decision to do some things differently, to grow as a coach. Says he felt he had to be more demanding from players this year.

        - We didn’t do a good enough of job in finding solutions. We didn’t play good enough long enough.

        - Keeping some guys around for fear of losing them to waivers.

        - The system that we play, we need to tweak it for sure. We need to focus on the defensive zone on the first day of training camp.

        - MacLean says the goal next year will be to cut down on goals against by 50…and that puts us average.

        - On Spezza’s captaincy: “It’s a learning experience for him and I believe he learned a lot.” Difficult to replace Alfie.

        - On Zibanejad: “Every test that he’s had has come back in a positive fashion. We don’t anticipate any further concerns with that.”

        MacLean wants his team to concentrate on its play without the puck “from day one.”

        • SENSsmile

          My question then is WHY did MacLean try to change things this year? If nothing was broken, what was there to fix?

          • Skeleton

            Coaches evolve just like players do in my opinion. I like what he had to say when it came to his own evaluations and the team as a whole. Honest, I think.

    • Jakester

      I’d keep the coach!

      • Skeleton

        And that is what I think will happen as well…along with what I want to happen.

    • Sandy

      You don’t know that.. McLean said himself that taking over from a 17 yr captain was going to be difficult and it will take more than 1 yr for him to get comfortable in the role.
      You must also be listening to that useless Sean Simpson on TSN1200. He said the same thing.. I don’t believe that for a minute.
      These are grown men.. not children..

      I listened to the entire interview and I did not assume he wanted Phillips…. but I guess it is just an opinion..
      And I also have no problem with him being more demanding on the players… What is wrong with that?

      He did say.. everyone was to blame in what happened this season.
      One tidbit I would like to pass onto the team is… come training camp…. don’t keep 50 players here.. Send the ones you want to send to Bingo and leave the main team + a couple of extras in Ottawa.
      Work on what you have to work on with the players that will actually be in the opening lineup come Oct..

  • Colin

    Regardless of how the question is read or phrased, it is surprising to see such support for Spezza. I guess the few squeaky wheels were louder than I thought.

    • Zelle

      It’s always easier to remember those with whom you disagree with or anyone who is rude, from my experience. Also I find a lot of fans don’t “hate” Spezza but would prefer a different type of player to lead the team.

    • SENSsmile

      I’ll admit that I’ve been quite critical of Spezza most of the year, but I have to say that I’m also impressed with the way he finished the season. In fact, this may be very good for the Sens organization, as his value probably went up as a result. It’s not that I’m necessarily adamant that he should leave the team, but at least if he goes Murray will get better value for him than he would have, let’s say a few months ago. All in all, whether or not Spezza is a good player is not really the issue. Most people would argue that he’s a very good player overall. The big question is whether or not it’s time for him to move on for younger guys to take his place now or whether the team needs him for a little while longer to ensure a good transition.

  • SensChirp

    Was interesting to hear MacLean acknowledge that the thing he changed this season was to be a little more demanding of his players. Expecting each one of them to play a certain way every night.

    Sort of what I was getting at in this article about MacLean

    http://senschirp.ca/news/understanding-paul-maclean/

    • thepez

      So according to him he was more demanding, but to me he seemed to be less demanding by allowing players to play after making undisciplined mistakes over and over again

      • SensChirp

        Like I said in the article, he can tolerate mistakes. The thing he was “demanding” more of, was that guys worked hard every shift and played within the system he put in place.

    • Miguel

      This is where I have a problem with PMac.
      you cannot paint all players and teams with one brush.
      There is not one magic formuala or reciepe that ensures a team wins the cup.
      One year it may be a strong defensive team like Jersey or Boston, another year it could be a strong offensive team like Chicago, or Anaheim.
      You have to be flexible, and work with each players strengths and not expose their weaknesses.
      CP4 and Cowen vs the other teams top lines was exposing their weaknesses, or CP4 on the PP was purely insanity.
      Sitting your top line on the PP, was again not using your strengths.
      Funny how well the PP has been with guys like Stone, Hoffman and our top players out there.
      I think he did not use our players in the best capacity for them to succeed, or for the team to win… IMO only of course

      • Jakester

        Good teams play the same way, all with the same attention to detail Miguel. That’s what consistency is all about. Can’t have one line playing all lousy goosy, and the other line playing hard both ways! That’s how the free for all starts, if that’s the hockey you want, then you might as well be an Oilers or Leafs fan! This team will fix its work ethic, all for one and one for all! Musketeer style!

        • sben

          You know what I call Maclean, Melnyk and Murray…

          The three musketeers!!

  • A-Train

    Only one interesting detail in Maclean’s newser today: He says he consciously tried to be more demanding of the players this season and it didn’t work out.

    Not hard to see why it was a mistake. His brand was “players’ coach” and when he messed with that it was probably awkward and inauthentic.

    • Jakester

      So the ones who played the style he wanted will be staying. The ones who didn’t play a two hundred ft game and constantly turned pucks over won’t. Constant themes in his presser today!

  • Patrick Weirdcock

    Thanks for the season Chirp, I’ve lost countless hours of work reading the posts and comments, but no regrets! I’d sure love to sit down and have a beer with SensChirp someday and talk Sens hockey!

    • Brutus5247

      Change your name man…its not funny unless you are 14yrs old. Show some respect!

  • jtf927

    thanks for another great year chirp! looking forward to another summer talking sens hockey.

  • Miguel

    yes although this must have been one of the more disappointing years in a very long time, it is very enjoyable to read Chirps posts, and to comment, debate and yes most of all vent ( yes I too did vent ;-) ), after some very tough games this year.
    Chirp, thanks for the insight, the knowledge, and being the mediator when some of us find the odd occaision to disagree.
    Sign Spezza, Hemsky, Ryan
    PMac had an awful year, have to figure what went wrong and fix it one way or another
    Sit CP4 and Cowen, and we are back in the playoffs next year,
    should be an easy summer for BM :-)

  • CUP 2014-15

    Well, now that we have heard from the players and coach, I am sure we all have points that hit home with us. For me it was in Hemsky saying that he enjoyed playing here but quickly went to….the most important thing to me is the Centre I will be playing with and he will wait to make his choice to resign or not after finding out what is going on with Spezz. That is a pretty good indicator that this team will not have Hemsky without Spezz. I don’t think anyone in their right mind can lay this season on Spezz and I would hate to see him go unless its a HUGE return.

    • Brutus5247

      Look at all options..is what stood out to me. In other words …thanks for getting me out of Edmonton…I’m moving on.

      • CUP 2014-15

        yes for sure but he was pretty honest about what he wanted for himself and it better be a number one offensive centre.

        • sprucesens

          i was thinking hemsky might try to follow spezza to whatever team he is traded to, if they have room..? just an idea

          • CUP 2014-15

            ahhh. got ya, interesting idea

  • Deadly

    Just a thought but why don’t we give the team and all the players and coaches a clean slate to start the new year. Perhaps we have all had bad years where things have been bad for each of us.
    A summer off to condition ,rehabilitate and rethink their efforts and past performances should lead to improvements in all areas.
    Young players such as Cowen ,Ceci ,Stone and Pageau require patience In order to improve.

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      Thing is, we all know that the top 6 minus the TMR line will be different. I hope we resign Spezza but it doesnt seem like that is an option. But yes I agree, I am excited for the off season

  • Cicero

    So……

    SensChirp Playoff Pool?
    :D

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      Please count me in

  • sben

    Anyone have word on Wikstrand and how he is doing? I know that earlier he was doing really, really well points wise and I suspect gamewise too. I remember hearing Murray say that Wikstrand has indicated that he does want to go to North America so I was wondering if anyone had word on when or if Wikstrand will join Bingo at any point.

    • sprucesens

      good question, kinda forgot about him on the depth chart. I kind of had him pegged similar to claesson, with more offense. But we never hear much of our overseas players. Filatov anyone?

  • BeJamin

    I think Spezza has played well for this team down the stretch. It’s hard to get rid of him at this point, but… the team is at a crossroads. We’re a young group. So we can keep going with Spezza & Hemmer and try to right the ship next year.

    Obviously as far as SensChirp pointed out much of that may rest on whether Spezza in fact wants to be back with the team. If we get the right offer, a really good one, then I’m not against it. We’re talking Ladd + Bogosian good. Not likely to happen, but you never know.

    Honestly though, it’s hard to believe it would be that difficult to convince the captain to return. Unless he’s got a real hate on for P-Mac & Eugene. Which honestly, maybe he does at this point. It can’t have sat too well with him that Bobby Ryan was taken away from his wing within weeks of getting here. After the injury in November it makes sense that a slower Ryan would be placed with Turris & MacArthur to allow them to carry him a bit but before that I could see how it maybe really pissed Spezza off. He barely got a chance to make any chemistry with the guy. Then again… all the fun he had down the stretch playing with Hemsky… that could probably bring him back.

    Thing is from Ottawa’s side what happens if you give him that long term deal and in 2 years his back is shredded and he’s a 50 point player? At that point we’re stuck with him. If we can get the right deal now… might be the safest option for the future of this team. St.Louis will be pining for a big name if they dump in the first round this year unless the injury excuse cools the embers of a raging fan base. I don’t think it will be enough though. They’re going to be pissed when Chicago dumps them out on their ass.

    • CUP 2014-15

      PMac, maybe The Euge, probably, the fan base most likely. Every team drive star players out of town. Don’t think it didn’t hurt when our own building booed him endlessly at the end of the Pens series 3 years ago and the constant hammering he gets.

  • Simple Jack

    not sure how to take cowens “i want a bigger part in the leadership role” sits with me, his poor decisions as a young player who demanded more money than our top defensive defenceman and lack of commitment night in and night out thinks his leadership skills would be good for our team. someone please tell this guy to hit the brakes, he needs to learn the game before offering others advice on it.

    • Andrews theory

      I get the sense that the effort and commitment are there with Cowen but ya it’s laughable that he would think he’s in any position to offer leadership based on this past year of holding out, brain fart decisions and all round shit play,

      At least the current leadership has a documented history of performance…

    • whammer44

      The funny thing about leadership, whether its hockey or anywhere else…you either are a leader or you’re not. Cowen can say he wants more of a leadership role all he likes, but he should start by becoming a legitimate top 4 dman and the rest will happen naturally.

  • Taxman

    I would trade Spezza, next year’s 1st, and litterally any other player or prospect on the Sens with the exception of EK65, Turris, or Z-bad, to Nashville for Webber. Question is, would they ever even entertain such an offer. ON the surface, it does seem to fit what they need. A player who, if not top 5 in the league anymore, can fill the role of a #1 centre, a long-term insurance piece (the pick), in case Spezza doesn’t resign, and potentially a defensive replacement for Webber.
    I think I would probably pass out if BM could pull a deal like this off. Can you imagine EK65 and Webber on the same team?

    • sprucesens

      i’ve thought about that too. i guess it depends on their need for offence, and if they really didn’t like the way weber wanted out when he signed the offer sheet. My proposal was maybe more realistic, of a trade of spezza and wiercioch for josi and forsberg. Maybe some picks going each way to balance it out. i’d rather keep our 1st next year, but they could have 2016′s. lol.

    • Garrioch’s reliable source

      if Webber is actually availalble there will be 20+ teams trying to get him

      It would cost Ottawa a LOT more than a soon to be UFA with a bad back

  • Andrews theory

    I think Mac was guilty of over coaching…that’s fixable

  • A-Train

    Maclean comes in and gets them into round 1, game 7 in year one — is also nominated for Jack Adams as a rookie head coach. Year two he beats all the odds, gets the team a step further into round 2 and WINS the Jack Adams.

    So in year three he decides to change up his approach to coaching? That’s….an odd choice.

    • Doc

      There must have been a legit reason though. He didn’t just decide this out of the blue.

      • aegiszx

        Exactly. Mac is a smart guy, and he’s worked with the best in Babcock, new HC or not, he’s a very smart guy, and a former player… Could be outside influences *cough*Eugene*BM*cough*

    • aegiszx

      It is a very odd choice, but you know, its kind of understandable in a way… If he knew what those guys were capable of when giving 65% of their effort, maybe he wanted see what they were like when they actually cared at 100%? Lets be honest, they were able to play with relatively no pressure for the first two years of the rebuild… and when push came to shove this year, no one pushed back.

    • Garrioch’s reliable source

      PM really missed Gonchar and Alfredsson (as did I)

      The “Detroit System” that he learned on involves a lot of
      leadership and dependable minutes played by veteran players.

  • Brutus5247

    Get the Shea Weber nonsense out of your mind.
    14 mil actual 7.8 cap hit for next 2 years
    12 mil actual 7.8 cap hit for the next 2 years after that
    6 mil actual 7.8 cap hit for next 4 years after that.
    Cheap actual 7.5 cap hit for next 4 years

    So for 4 years you average 13 mill actual cash/year. Toronto maybe….Ottawa NEVER.

  • http://www.crashthenet.ca/ Luc Wolfe

    I dont thing getting rid of spezza is a good plan… Who else is over a point a game with 650+ games played.

    We can get rid of Condra, greening, Cowen and bring Boro. Use that 12-15 mil and get leaders can finish and put thepuck back in the net.

    Sure trade spezza but you better get something good… I mean great. We don’t need a hot head like Kane. I like the kid but don’t trade spezza for him.

    Goalie wise… If miller doesn’t work out make a pitch for the guy

  • Sandy

    This team had no problem scoring goals this season… The top 6 is fine as it is.. IF you can get them re-signed..
    If Spezza is traded.. I don’t want to hear Murray moan about needing another top 6 forward…
    This team needs help on the defense… that’s the main problem.
    I didn’t hear all of the interviews today… did we find out what was the injury to Cowen?

    • CUP 2014-15

      Hip flexer (sp?) not the one he had surgery on.

      • Sandy

        That’s what Alfie always had trouble with.

        Probably compensating for the injured hip?

  • Floridasensfan

    Most impressed with Turris comments.
    Can hardly wait to hear what BM has to say.
    Thing with PM is you have to like the guy, regardless of the shit job he did juggling lines and putting our least skilled guys out incessantly,
    CP on the power play stuff like that.

    PM skated the conversation what he did wrong specifically,
    his personality is so good you kind of overlook his flaws as a coach

    • Zelle

      “Whatever we need is what I try to do.” Love this kid! Really enjoying SensTV with all the players. Wish we could have heard from Ryan and Hoffman/Stone. I think they’re all gone though?

  • Sandy

    I found this comment on Hockeybuzz in a Yost article. Don’t know where it came from or how valid it is…

    Have you heard of this Chirp?

    In SBJ: NHL is preparing a credit facility of at least $1 billion. Would allow clubs to borrow from a loan pool.

    • BeJamin

      Who knows but honestly it would make a ton of sense. Would allow teams like Ottawa to escape the insane amount of debt they are dealing with. And then become more profitable later on. This of course assumes the interest rate is low.

  • Brutus5247

    200 ft game or sit.

  • aegiszx

    Andy’s presser lol, rough bro. Tossing everyone and anyone under the bus.

  • xiorcal

    on the comment from senschirp

    ”SensChirp @SensChirp
    Today’s interview with Spezza was pretty telling. Sounds like a frustrated guy that is ready to move on.”

    It’s funny, for me It was more looking like a guy trying to be serious an maybe a bit tired of the comments that he never look to take interview seriously enough.

    • xN1Cx

      “Like the team I think it’s disappointing, I think I learned a lot though. Becoming a captain is something that’s different, it’s something I was ready for but I think there’s a lot to learn too. I feel like I’m a better leader now than I was at the start of the year and I’ve learned a lot from it and grown as a person. There’s a lot of negative experience this year and you hope you learn from that in your career because you have to have something to draw on during bad times and something to draw on during good times” – From Ottawa Senators website

      Doesn’t sound like a guy who doesn’t want to be here IMO. I sure hope he gets another crack at leading this team, because I think he can.

      • WolfInSheepsClothes

        I agree, I hope he stays.

        I also don’t understand why people are saying he’s being non-committal. He said multiple times in the interview, “I do” (in reference to both wanting to stay and wanting to finish his career as a Senator).

        • xN1Cx

          Yup, I agree on that front too. From reading the excerpts on the Sens website for the interviews it seems a lot of the guys are still motivated as a group.

          Even Hemsky mentioned that he really just needs to know where this teams future lies – personally if they can move greening and some prospect for a defenseman and bring back this top six I can see them playing much better next year.

          I haven’t like the core team this much in a long time.

    • SensChirp

      I think it’s simple. He wants to be here next year, assuming a team of interest doesn’t want to trade for him. But he certainly didn’t sound ready to talk extension. Let’s bring this conversation to the new post!

  • aegiszx

    “SensChirp: #Sens Owner Eugene Melnyk will be answering Twitter questions from 3-4 today.”

    The internal budget extends to media availability too?! Euge is that broke!!!

    • karlssens

      Didn’t wanna pay $1.30 a L to drive to a pressor. More cost efficient to do it from home.

  • SensChirp
  • NickofTime

    While the Senators had a crappy season your site has been a success, so congrats to all the work you do Chirp considering how busy you must be with your new arrival.

    On Spezza, it’s funny how quickly so many Sen fans have changed their opinion on Kyle Turris being a 1st line centre in the NHL. I can remember arguing with numerous people at the end of last yr when I said not only has he the potential but at his age he will only get better. He had already been the defacto #1 last season when Spezza was out most of the season, he already proved he was a #1 centre but many thought he had reached his peak. Now, just a yr later, people are quite willing to dump their former #1 centre & hero Spezza & let Turris replace him. Funny, what a difference a yr makes.

    As for next season, I still think if they were to keep most of these players that ended the season on the team with the exception of Condra ,I think they would have a pretty good team. Hoffman is the other guy that I think needs to start scoring consistently or he will turn into another version of Conacher & will also be moved or waived & replaced. This would mean keeping Spezza but I think the team could do well even without him expecially if they got a big tough power forward in return.

    While most think the defence needs an upgrade in the worse way, I think the young defence we have will get better & will make a huge stride next season. Re-signing Phillips though IMO was a mistake similar to signing Corvo last summer. Ottawa absolutely needs better goaltending next yr as well. Lehner needs to have a great yr & take the reins from Anderson. Anderson also needs to have a much better yr if he has any hopes of being re-signed. If he has a bounce back season I could see Ottawa re-signing him as a veteran backup which would make sense considering Lehner’s volatile personality at times although he is getting much better.