NHL Trade Deadline Day (Hemsky to Ottawa, Phillips Extended)

SensChirp March 5, 2014 1,516
NHL Trade Deadline Day (Hemsky to Ottawa, Phillips Extended)

(UPDATED 4:00 PM)-  Just when you thought the fun was over.  A late deal to announce as according to James Gordon of the Ottawa Citizen, the Senators have dealt forward Andre Petersson to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for defenceman Alex Grant.

(UPDATED 3:50 PM)- One last piece of Senators news to close out the day. Defenceman Joe Corvo, who cleared waivers today at noon, has been loaned to the Chicago Wolves of the American Hockey League.  It’s a nice gesture by Sens GM Bryan Murray as it allows Corvo, an Illinois native, to begin his time in the AHL a little closer to home.  Best of luck to Joe in Chicago.

(UPDATED 12:18 PM)- Well now things are certainly heating up! TSN’s Bob McKenzie is reporting that Oilers forward Ales Hemsky is heading to the Ottawa Senators in exchange for a 3rd round pick in 2014 and a 5th round pick in 2014.

(UPDATED 12:12 PM)- Again, as expected the Ottawa Senators have announced they have signed defenceman Chris Phillips to a two year contract extension that will pay him $2.5 million a season.  Great deal for both sides.

(UPDATED 11:15 AM)- As expected, the Buffalo Sabres have indeed put in a claim on forward Cory Conacher.  Great opportunity for Conacher who is from Burlington and went to Canisus College in Buffalo.  Tough to lose a key piece in the Ben Bishop deal but Sens management felt it just wasn’t working out here in Ottawa.

(UPDATED 10:56 AM)-  Quiet start to the day but we are now within one hour of finding out Cory Conacher’s fate.  Placed on waivers yesterday, talk yesterday indicated that it’s unlikely Conacher clears.  The Sabres are expected to be a team with interest. We’ll find out at Noon.

There’s no sugar coating it- last night’s loss to the Edmonton Oilers was a devastating blow to the slim playoff chances of the Ottawa Senators. The hole they have dug themselves is almost too deep to climb out of and that will certainly be a factor in the decisions Bryan Murray makes today on NHL Trade Deadline Day.

While the Sens won’t necessarily be in the market for a rental, they could still be buyers today if there is a piece that fits in with their team beyond this season.  The price for Chris Stewart seemed too high for the Senator yesterday but Tim Murray’s prices are expected to come down at some point today. Chris Phillips and Milan Michalek are both UFAs at season’s end and could be in play although in the case of Phillips, it sounds like he’s close to signing a two year extension.

A blockbuster is unlikely, but I would be shocked if Murray didn’t make at least one deal today. Like other years, we’ll keep all the rumours and speculation on this main post and if something breaks, you’ll read it here.  I’ll also be providing updates and analysis in the comment section below and over on Twitter @SensChirp.  Follow along, won’t you?

Happy NHL Trade Deadline everyone!

 

  • SensChirp

    Let’s see if we can set some comment records today. Happy Deadline Day everyone!

    • MacK

      Sounds like a plan…let’s hope the Sens can make some bold moves for the future!

      • Tooks

        They should, this is the perfect opportunity to be sellers! With maybe a bit of buying :P

    • Chris Maxim

      Additional goal for the day: Make the TSN tweetyticker thing and don’t pass out from sleep deprivation from staying up all night!

  • Dirk-Diggler

    Melnyk need to realize that building a winner is threefold. First is proper development of talent from within your system (Karlsson, Ceci, Zibanejad, Stone, Lehner, Lazar, Spezza) the second part is trading for players that will be a good part of your core (Ryan, Anderson, Turris) and lastly key signings (MacArthur). Now, the problem for the Sens has been the third component. We just don’t have enough quality signings.

    This summer I’d like the Sens to pitch Gaborik (5 years at $6M) and Boyle (or Markov) 2 years at $5.5M.

    Today the organization can do a lot of good things for it’s future. Trading Phillips, Michalek, Neil, Greening and letting the prospects come up and show what they’ve got. Guys like Hoffman, Stone, Classen, and Da Costa should all be given the ball the rest of this season and show to management that they want to be in the NHL!

    • MacK

      I wouldn’t be letting Neil go. He is a heart and soul guy and means too much to the city. Michalek, Greening…sure! I’m still torn on letting CP4 go…He’s a lifer!

      • Moudy Mahfouz

        I think we should let Greening go and literally I will be satisfied for the day. But that wont happen because Maclean is on Greenings tip.

      • Tooks

        Umm IF Alfie can go so can Neil. Would be missed for about a day and a half.

    • FistsofNeil25

      That’s a lot of money you’re wanting to give to over the hill players like Gabby, Boyle and Markov.

      • Dirk-Diggler

        Yes it is a lot of money for Gabby… but, wouldn’t you rather take a chance on a guy who can be a dominant player or another year of seeing Greening, Neil and Smith leading your team in ice time? Good players are hard to come by, you need to pay and take risk.

        • Alex

          Honestly I wouldn’t touch Gaborik any more Ny and CBJ have given up on him so have I blaming injuries or not he’s not the guy he was in Minnesota.
          Also let’s face it, do we really want another expensive whipping boy

        • FistsofNeil25

          a 5 year contract at 6 mill a year isn’t just taking a chance, It’s making a massive commitment to a guy who can’t stay healthy and who’s on a steady decline.

          A one year deal would be fine but 5? that’s just crazy man

        • JRMcPeeWee

          No to Gaborik he is on pace for 11 goals this season scored 12 last season. He has alot of skill but is injury prone.

    • Miguel

      completely agree with you last paragragh… Neil and many others have been awesome, but for the right price, right now we should consider moving almost anyone. We just lost a “playoff” like game to the last place team. It is time to see what we have in our prospects, as many of them are better than what we have on our current lineup

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    I needed that 6 hour sleep to sleep on that frustrating loss. I dont think Murray makes any major moves today but I hope he does. GO SENS GO A loss tonight and I might give up(even though I am not one to give up) Happy deadline day

  • FistsofNeil25

    After that loss last night I don’t expect Murray to be overly busy today. There’s going to be a ton of comments from fans on here about “completing this rebuild” but that just isn’t going to happen. Murray isn’t going to trade away half the team. I don’t even expect him to trade away anyone on the current roster today.

    The only move that I can see Murray making today is a Shane Prince + to Buffalo for Stewart. Stewart addresses a need this season and next. Tim Murray will have to lower all of his asking Prices today. Despite the fact that there are so few “sellers” this season, it appears to be a “buyers” market. Teams aren’t giving up a whole lot in the trades we’ve seen so far.

    The fact that Robidas was only dealt for a 4th round pick pretty much sets the market for Phillips. Penner was also only dealt for a 4th rounder which gives us a good indication of Michalek’s value.

    It looks like it will be a quiet day for Ottawa. Conacher will be claimed and Murray may make a Stewart or Parenteau type of addition but not much else.

    • CUP 2014-15

      well said and could not agree more.

    • whammer44

      Agreed. There’s always a chance someone may overpay for a Phillips or Michalek but not likely. Keep in mind Robidas hasn’t played in awhile, so Phillips may have have more value.

      This team needs to address the top 4 D and top 6 forward need and not get off the plan by over reacting today. I’m looking for a Ryan like deal sometime before next season. I’m all for a Stewart deal but neither side needs to get that done today.

  • SensChirp

    One player I sort of expect to be moved by the end of day is Shane Prince. There were rumours that he asked for a deal or suggested he would head to the KHL. Buffalo seems like a fit. Could be part of that Stewart deal the two teams have talked about.

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      Prince is gonna be a stud in this league. I dont think we should give up on him. I went to highschool with the kid and man he is a great person, awesome athlete. Sad to see him go if he does get traded

      • SensChirp

        Agreed. But if he asked for a deal, good riddance.

  • Chaps

    Call it twisted luck but I came down with a cold today, thus booked off sick at work and can now follow deadline day more closely hehe.

    I didn’t see any of the game last night (in bed with this stupid cold) but did listen to TGOR this morning, and they went on an epic rant trashing the coaching staff for a) playing Conacher, the guy we just waived, in the dying seconds and b) for not instilling a strong enough defensive system. They suggested firing one of our assistants (not sure which is responsible for D) and bringing in a defensive guru – maybe bringing up Richardson as an assistant.

    All that said, I also expect Murray to make a Stewart-type deal today, but honestly I don’t see what else he can do that would make a big enough difference at this point in time. Probably best to wait till the summer.

  • boom

    I want to say Thanks in advance Chirp, for doing your best to keep everyone on an even keel over the next few weeks, if the Sens continue to choke the season away.

    I don’t want to get into specific players because I feel it’s tiresome to hear the same posters complain about the same players day after day, but I will say that I hope there are changes made next year.

    At any rate, thanks again.

    • my2sens

      Well said chap. I echo this sentiment.

  • Codo37

    Im shocked from the game last night, i hope this game forces Murray do drop the deadwight. Michalek, Phillips and Greening must go, but why he put conacher on waivers is a mystery for me (but i hope we will know more in 6 hours). Corvo on waivers ok, but cory? Why not greening or condra, cony is a better player than those two …

    I hope everyone see that Spezza was held back by injuries and now going back to 100%.
    He was the best player on the ice, created a lot aof chances on his own. The player in the slump is Turris (hope he bounce back soon, Mac, put Bobby back on this wing!). Trade for a good winger for Spezza and put Stone back on his RW, problem fixed! Call up Boro and play him for Phillips, next problem fixed. Then a 3rd Line that can score (68-24-93) and things will change a lot.

    • runningbear1974

      Spezza does well against weaker defensive teams… Don’t forget, Edmonton sucks bad… I’d like to see Spezza do that against Boston, Pittsburgh or Chicago…

      • Codo37

        He has 3 Pts vs STL, played good the last 5-6 Games. I wish he do that against everyteam ;-)

        • runningbear1974

          Some people love the way he plays… Some people don’t believe it’s an effective style against better competition…

          • Codo37

            If he plays like the first 40 Games yes, if he plays like the last Games or the 2012 Season I never want trade him

          • runningbear1974

            Even in the 2012 season… For the first time he started shooting more… He went away from passing all the time… EXCEPT… When we got to the playoffs, he went back to his old style of skating to the boards and passing it to someone in the middle of the ice… So, he changed his behaviour (shoot more), but when the going got tough he went back to his usual ways… I remember MacLean yelling at Spezza in that Rangers series because he wouldn’t shoot the puck…
            Whatever… Some people believe, I don’t…

      • WolfInSheepsClothes

        Spezza this season against some of the best “defensive” teams.
        vs. DET – 4 games 2G, 1A
        vs. BOS – 3 games 1G, 2A
        vs. STL – 2 games 1G, 2A
        9pts/9gms

        Give him some consistent, GOOD wingers and then watch him go.

        • runningbear1974

          Again… Some people believe in Spezza… Personally I think he’s a liability against better teams… Especially in the playoffs, he’s easy to shut down… I’ve never seen him terrorise a better team in the playoffs… Instead I’ve seen the opposite, a weaker player was able to completely shutdown Spezza in the important games…
          Some people believe in him I don’t… I think his style is guaranteed to lose against better competition…
          Was there ever a series against better opposition that we won because of Spezza? ever…

          • Codo37

            2007 against 2nd Place NJ Devils. After that we won only one Playoff Series but I think its all Spezzas fault, again ;-)

          • runningbear1974

            I don’t remember that series… I just remember thinking it was easy for us… we won against the east 4-1 each series, which to me means it’s not a tough series for us… NJ wasn’t at that point as dominant as any of the tough teams around now…
            In my mind, Spezza is equal to Yashin… He’ll get you points, but he won’t win you gold… Because he doesn’t understand what it takes to win, which is being a complete player…

  • Master Trade Bait

    Garrioch reporting the Ducks have made multiple calls about Jason Spezza.

    • MacK

      oh boy, hear we go again…the last thing we need is Murray focusing on quieting Spezza rumours…We need Murray at his best today!

    • MacK

      what on earth could the Ducks be offering that would be worth Spezza? Silverberg, Neosen and a 1st? Oh, wait…

    • Richard Gough

      And you believe that clown ?

      • SensChirp

        Denis Potvin the one saying it. Denis aint no rumour guy so I assume it’s true.

        • Richard Gough

          So what would the duck offer for Spezza then ?

          • FBP

            Glancing at CapGeek nothing jumps out as making a lot of sense to me.

    • Alex

      I would take Silfverberg , our pick , Noeson, and Gibson done deal ;)

      • Alex

        or take out Gibson for a blue chipper on d obviously Fowler would be a no go

      • FBP

        They’d have to fit him under the cap/budget for next year somehow. I thought they traded Ryan because they weren’t going to be able to afford him?

    • Dirk-Diggler

      I would take Etem and our 1st back…

      • Richard Gough

        I can’t see the duck parting way with anyone from there roster to get the deal done but I do love the idea of Gibson being part of the package

        • Alex

          if Gibson did come back I would trade andy on deadline day hoping for max returns, I’ve found Lehner plays best when he is being pushed, not behind a defacto #1

  • runningbear1974

    It’s too bad we “NEED” Phillips’ leadership, because his play on the ice is not that good…

  • CUP 2014-15

    I think the Sens still go for it today, right or wrong. Spezza was the Spezza of old last night and I am sure that during the game Murray could look down on the ice and think…what if he had wingers. As they use to say about Sundin in Toronto, it’s a helicopter line….no wings. And there is no question this team needs a top 4 D. Come on Bryan shake this town today.

  • Jordan Hendren

    Hey all, long time reader, first time commenter here.
    Question for you all. Why do you think there isn’t a huge push from MGMT to upgrade our defence core?
    I don’t have any faith in either the present or future of this defence core outside of Karlsson, Methot and what Ceci projects out to. I see a glaring need for another top 4 defenceman to take pressure off of Cowen/Gryba/PW46 who just aren’t good NHL defencemen at this time.
    Why isn’t Murray making a big push for someone like Alex Edler or even Christian Ehrhoff?

    • SensChirp

      Welcome aboard.

      It’s a good question. I think they may have some plans to address this in the off season.

    • Codo37

      Ehrhoff yes cause good in his own zone too, Edler no, bad in the defensive Zone

      • Zelle

        This.

        But I am not a huge fan of Ernhoff either, I find him very selfish.

    • Alex

      This time of year is when people overpay for short term gains, the Off-Season is when you get best Value, and frankly guys available on Deadline day are either too old/expiring contracts/or rebuild deals. the only “rebuild” Defenders available are those in Buffalo

    • Chris Maxim

      Theres still a few decent DMen in Bingo like Boro, Weircoch, and that’s not including any future trades or acquisitions. If you have Karl, Meth, Ceci, Boro, Weir, all you’re missing is a 6th defensemen. That’s decent depth and once Lehner is at proper starter level (which should hopefully be soon) defensively I think we’re in good shape. I’m far more worried about having 2-3 reliable offensive lines and a properly gritty 4th line with some muscle.

      • Jordan Hendren

        You honestly think Boro has a future in the NHL? I see him as a career #6/7. He’s got a lot of “heart”, but little in actual hockey skills or sense from what i’ve seen out of him.
        Depth is great, but when we only have one legitimate top 2 defenceman in Karlsson, One top 4 defenceman in Methot, one projected top 4 in Ceci, then a lot of 5/6′ers in Gryba/Cowen/PW46. It makes me worried for the future.

        • Chris Maxim

          If a team can use a player like Konopka, Kassian or Carkner, Boro can probably find a place. I’m not touting Boro as the next Karlsson, but say this is how it goes forward:

          Karl/Meth
          Ceci/Weir
          Gryba/Boro

          This isn’t taking into account trading Cowen or other prospects for a top 4 DMan. Karl/Math/Ceci/*blank* is a good top 4 D, your 5th and 6th D are usually role players like Carkner was.

          There is depth on the blue line, it just needs to come to fruition and have a goalie behind them to bail them out from time to time which Lehner will be in the next couple seasons, and this season hasn’t be an indication of a that because our goalies have been all sorts of terrible, and Cowen has been a pylon out there which doesn’t help.

          We need (at minimum) 2 solid lines, and a grinder line which we already have but could be improved on possibly. But like TSN said, we have 1 good line + Spezza out there for offense, it’s not enough.

    • FistsofNeil25

      I feel the same way you do about our d core. I wish Murray had been more aggressive to address the holes on our defense this year. At this point though I imagine the price for Ehrhoff or Edler would be far too high for the Sens right now.

      He has to do something in the offseason though.

      • Jordan Hendren

        I would pay a price of Patrick Wiercioch + Mark Stone + 2015 1st for Alex Edler right now. Without even blinking.
        Then we line up Karlsson – Edler, Ceci – Methot, Philips – Cowen/Gryba
        Defense stabilized?

        • FistsofNeil25

          I would prefer Bieksa or Hamhuis to Edler. Edler isn’t all that great defensively. I don’t think he’s the answer at all. All three players have NTC’s though.

          I definitely wouldn’t give up that 2015 first rounder either.

    • CUP 2014-15

      Welcome aboard JH. Could not agree more, I do believe we have a roster of NHL D men the problem is we really have one top four guy today, 2 if your like me when looking at Mathot. CC will be there some day but not this one. The rest are good 5-6 guys. Bring on Erhoff

    • bjessima

      Murry clearly believes in Cowen and thinks he’s a top four guy two years out. I don’t but that doesn’t make a difference. Weircioch is in the same boat but not quite as high a potential. Gryba with the potential to be an NHL defenseman. I think the main problem with trading for defense is that the availability is low and the cost is very high. So if I read my tea leaves correctly, Murray thinks the potential is all there (Boro and Claesson fit in from Bingo) and that in essence, he’d have to empty the cupboard to get someone who helps now.

  • my2sens

    How can the Sens offer a 2 year deal to Phillips and he NOT accept it?

    • Alex

      we must seriously be lowballing him but let’s be honest Sens moved on term he should move on money.
      Of course there is always the possibility they did move on term just going insultingly low on money so when they trade him they can say it was Phillips who wouldn’t budge
      That being said idc what you sign him for the next few years aren’t cup runs, this franchise is desperate for a legacy and history with his number up in the rafters that would gives us something for the MODERN franchise “and” from this century.
      either way whatever happens vis a vis Phillips I’ll be fine with it.

    • Master Trade Bait

      I’m guessing they offered a significantly lower amount the second year (would make him easier to deal). Maybe they didn’t offer a NMC either.

    • Chris Maxim

      Seems painfully similar to the Alfie debacle if you ask me. Player has demand, management balks. Wait until last second before offering player what he wants, player already made up mind to walk (if Phillips doesn’t sign a contract by this afternoon, he’s gone today).

      Also, if ANA is taking pokes at Spezza today, and Murray is at least considering it, offering Phillips what he wants might be insurance to make sure that if he signs Phillips, he can trade Spezz without losing both of his leaders and easily transition Phillips to Captain if need be. PURE amateur speculation, but just a thought.

  • Frank

    I just don’t understand the reasoning behind a 2 year deal for Phillips. He’s regressing quickly and there is a major logjam on defense. Why not get an asset for him?

    • Chris Maxim

      If anything, leadership element, especially if the rumors of ANA taking pokes at Spezza are true.

    • MacK

      sign and trade to the Bruins? Doing Chris a favour…

  • FistsofNeil25

    So Anaheim has made multiple calls on Spezza eh?

    Emerson Etem, Hampus Lindholm and the Ottawa 1st round pick? Is that too much or not enough? Oh I forgot about the salary cap. Can Spezza fit in with Anaheim without them sending back a salary dump to Ottawa?

    • my2sens

      I would think many teams are calling and asking… but I would have to assume they are getting a recording of a walrus laughing at them.

      Spezza is not moving.

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      I know Spezza wont be traded but seeing hes a point per game player I would want a roster player a prospect or 2 and/or a high pick.

    • Alex

      Any deal I want Noeson back I would trade ANY forward on the farm for him yes even Stone Hoffman or puemple.

      • CUP 2014-15

        Love that prospect as well.

      • FistsofNeil25

        I would prefer Etem to Noeson. Etem has insane speed and Noeson isn’t a great skater yet.

        Any deal for Spezza though and I want Hampus Lindholm. Doubt Anaheim has any interest in that but you have to give to get!

    • Richard Gough

      I would like to see what Vancouver get for Kessler before trading Spezza

    • Tooks

      Sens would be stupid not to take this. I think its a bit much but thats where you start!

  • Tooks

    Major changes or alot of minor ones NEED to happen if Murray wants to help “these guys make the playoffs”.

    IF he changes his tone and admits playoffs are a dream then we need to sell off deadwood. No point in keeping them around, play the kids.

    Phillips for a 3rd, do it.
    Michalek for a 3rd, do it.
    Prince to BUF for one of Ristolainen/Pysyk/Zadorov/McNabb/McCabe.
    Stone to EDM for one of Poirier/Granlund/Knight/Reinhart.
    Anderson, Cowen, Smith to Vancouver for Kesler, Jordan Subban & Jordan Schroeder.
    Spezza to Anaheim for Emerson Etem, Hampus Lindholm and the Ottawa 1st round pick.

    Confirmed E4!!

    • my2sens

      Huh? We playing NHL 2014? McCabe? Trade Stone?

      My head is hurting more than after last night’s loss….

      Please explain…

      • Tooks

        You obviously dont know much hockey outside of Ottawa then?
        McCabe is just one of the young D’s BUF has coming up, physical, good skater and a hard shot! But he is the 4th guy I would take from BUF.

        Yeah Stone hasnt impressed me at all, slow skater, slow mobility, often injured. Any of those 4 guys from EDM can skate like the wind and have tons of skill. Reinhart and Knight are of the Lazar type of player. Poirier is local from Gatineau and Granlund would be my last pick.

  • WolfInSheepsClothes

    We’re certainly not “out of the picture”.

    Theoretically, all we need to do is win 4 more games (gain 8 more points) than Toronto and we have a much easier schedule than them. Now is the time for us to get hot. Adding 1-2 solid wingers for Spezza and (hopefully) a top 4 D will get us there without question.

    I’m holding hope for;

    OTT – Prince, Hoffman, Cowen, 2014 2nd (Conditional on Moulson re-signing), 2015 2nd

    for

    BUF – Stewart, Moulson, Ehrhoff

    • WolfInSheepsClothes

      MacArthur – Turris – Ryan
      Moulson – Spezza – Stewart
      Michalek – Zibanejad – Condra
      Greening – Smith – Neil

      Ehrhoff – Karlsson
      Methot – Weircioch
      Phillips – Ceci

      • Richard Gough

        Very sexy looking lines ,I must say

      • Finn 8

        I like the players there. However, the coach will have theem line up more like this
        Greening – Spezza – Michalek
        Macarthur – Turris – Condra
        Moulson – Zibanejab – Neil
        Ryan – Smith – Stewart
        Phillips – Karlsson
        Ceci – Weircoioch
        Methot – Enrfoff

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      I like this trade! And yes we arent out of the picture at all. We just need to win tonight, jets and Nashville then we have a huge game agaisnt MTL which at this time could be close to us considering they play the western teams the next 3 games.

    • FistsofNeil25

      That;s not enough for all three of those pieces.

      • WolfInSheepsClothes

        What do you think it would take…?

        • FistsofNeil25

          Tim Murray is a smart man. He would want quality for those guys. We couldn’t get all three of them without giving up one of Zibanejad, Lazar, Ceci, Lehner or our 2015 first round pick for that kind of package.

          For Moulson, Stewart and Ehrhoff he would probably want Zibanejad, Cowen, Prince. He’s not going to do us any favors because he used to work here and Bryan is his uncle.

          • sben

            If every person that is about to propose a buffalo ottawa had this in mind 99% of the trades wouldn’t be posted on the comment section.

    • xN1Cx

      So many yesses to this. This I think would be a glorious move and would make us very dangerous

    • Master Trade Bait

      You know what, at first I thought no, this will never happen, blah blah blah. And I still think that it would be extremely unlikely.

      However, I think it is legitimately great both ways. I love the conditional 2nd for re signing. Although, I think if we ended up giving up a 1st it would get it done. I don’t like this at all though, because our 1st in 2015 is very valuable because of the supposed depth of that draft.

      • WolfInSheepsClothes

        Very unlikely but could be a good move on both ends. The extra picks would allow TMurr to package a bunch of picks together at the draft to move up. That’s adding to the (3) 1st round picks and (4) 2nd rounders they already have!

        Having draft picks are only good when you draft well. We’ve got so many forward prospects it’s silly. I wouldn’t even care giving up the 1st rounder next year those players mentioned help long term and right now.

    • sben

      I would take this any day fif I were the sens but it would take quite a bit more for that. Spezza prince and hoffman might do it but it won’t happen.

    • WolfInSheepsClothes

      I even forgot that Prince is a Buffalo area kid! Goes a long way!

  • Miguel

    was that Ovechkin skating untouched on that firt goal? Or was it Crosy of Kane?
    No it was Hemsky… hasnt scored in two months but walks effortlessly around our “Legacy” player Phillips!
    “Free Free set them Free… if you love someone… Set them Free”!
    this has been two years of Phillips steady decline, and that exactly exemplifies why he should be a 7th dman.
    For those who say he has been a Senator since day 1, it would be nice to have him reitire here, he is a leader…. I say BS, his best years are behind him, and he cannot skate in todays NHL. He has had some good years and has been paid very well for that. For those who want happy endings this is not the Disney Channel, it is real life, and real sports, and CP4 hurts our team, and will be worse next year and the year after.
    If one year is not enought… get the fuk out!
    And to BM “How does a draft help this team make the playoffs” Not even God can help this team make the playoffs… you lost to the last place team, when your playoff hopes were on the line, how the hell do you hope to make the playoffs, let alone challenge Boston or Pit.
    Yes we have made mistakes… Conacher… please do not make things worse, by keeping some of the deadwood on this team… make some moves for the future… PLEASE!!!

    • my2sens

      Hemsky is a fast skater. If he did that around Chara, would you be saying the same? What about Erhoff? Buff?

      Pfft….

      • runningbear1974

        That wasn’t Phillips’ only bad play yesterday he had more… He isn’t getting any better, and he’s not great already…

    • boom

      Agreed, and don’t think for a minute that Phillips isn’t taking advantage of the fact that everyone blames the Sens for letting Alfie go too.
      He knows that the “court of public opinion” would rule against the Senators if they were to let him go as well.
      I can’t blame him, it’s smart negotiating, but it doesn’t mean the Sens should cave in, for the wrong reason either.

  • MacK

    telling tweet by Prince’s sister…Pretty much shows where Prince wants to be…

    • Richard Gough

      And where is that ?

      • sben

        buffalo

        • Chris Maxim

          Link?

          • sben
          • Chris Maxim

            Yup, that’s pretty telling. Should we consider her insider info? haha

          • Chris Maxim

            She’s pretty ripped, actually. Maybe Murray should offer her a contract and trade Kassian.

          • Tooks

            I would like to be inside her info…(what?)

          • sben

            oooookay. Moving on…

      • Tooks

        Buffalo like I said. Doc, that blog guy was right afterall.

  • SensChirp

    Dreger suggesting that the Senators have interest in Hemsky.

    • my2sens

      Has Hemsky’s stock risen after last night?

      • Richard Gough

        Go trade for the guy that kick our asses lastnight

        • Chris Maxim

          Go trade for the guy who kicked our asses last night after scoring for the first time in 2 months.

    • FistsofNeil25

      They should have picked him up before he put the nail in the coffin to our season last night then.

    • CUP 2014-15

      If they want Cowen, what could the Sens get back with Hemsky ?

      • Tooks

        Hemsky…lol

  • CSI: Barbados

    My top players that the Sens should target today (realistically):

    - Hemsky (cheap, could have a solid impact in out top 6)
    - Erhoff ( We need defensemen and he’s a great skater, puck mover, etc.)
    - Stewart (I think we do need a big body up front and will cost much less than Moulson)
    - Moulson (If we can get him to resign, would be a great pickup)

  • sben

    anyone who thinks that potvin isn’t a goof look at this tweet:

    Shawn Mackenzie:

    It’s early here in Calgary. Things are getting weird. Denis Potvin has 4 cups, also great with a makeup brush. pic.twitter.com/e26oN0I16w

    • Richard Gough

      I take it they are at the Sheraton Eau Claire right now

  • Chris Maxim

    I’m seeing potential lines cropping up, and none of them include Cowen. Safe to say we’re all on the same page on wanting him traded?

    • Tooks

      Yeah took awhile for the rosy bunch to figure this out but its pretty obvious now.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    I don’t want another two seasons of seeing Phillips get assassinated on the ice every game!

    • FistsofNeil25

      Me neither. Two years is too much right now. Murray should have stayed firm with his one year offer. If Phillips really wants to be here he would accept the deal 1 year extension. For what he brings on the ice, the Sens should be taking it one year at a time for him.

      • Tooks

        Completely agree, they should make him watch the Hemsky goal and say “2 more years of this?” No thx.

        1 year at a time, I’m fine with him re-signing here, just not as a top 4 D-man. He keeps his legacy and gets to retire a Senator.

        • FistsofNeil25

          My thoughts exactly. Problem is we need a top 4 d-man because as it stands right now we only have two of em’!

  • A-Train

    While we wait….the Sens figure I’m most disappointed in this season is Maclean. After his first two seasons he seemed like a genius. But it’s becoming increasingly clear that he may be great with the jobbers but doesn’t know how to handle top talent,

    It’s no surprise he was probably happiest last season when our skill guys were all out.

    Managing stars is a skill….one I fear he may not have.

    • SensChirp

      I sort of agree with this but I’ve tried to stress this point all season- more goes into Coaching than what we see during the games.

      • Chris Maxim

        I think Maclean is a good coach, but he has to stop with the constant line changing. You can’t just switch to a line in the middle of a game, lose the game and decide “Oh well, it didn’t work. Next line combo!”. It shows no confidence in his own decisions, and I don’t think Maclean is a coach lacking confidence. Give the players time to mesh, for better or worse. If it doesn’t gel immediately, give the players time to develop game-chemistry. Ryan’s been bounced around so many times, his butt’s probably getting sore.

        • CUP 2014-15

          Same with Mathot on D, has played with everyone but CP this year. I agree 100% with you on PM over coaching and not having enough confidence in his own moves.

        • WolfInSheepsClothes

          Get winger(s) for Spezza and we won’t have to worry about line juggling.

    • runningbear1974

      I miss last year’s team too… I wish we didn’t have “Stars” that required special management…
      We had a more “talented” team than Buffalo, but kept losing to them… We had a more “talented” team than Toronto but kept losing to them…
      I much prefer a hard worker type team… This year is tough to watch…

      • A-Train

        The trick of management…and not just in sports…is to do both. Motivate your grinders while also creating an environment where stars can flourish. It isn’t easy and requires a certain type of mindset.

        • runningbear1974

          I sympathise with Maclean for having to deal with Spezza and Karlsson continually doing bad stuff on the ice… Those are our most skilled guys, and the only skilled guys that we’re having issues with… How do you coach for bad key decisions… Anyway… I sympathise with the coach…

          • CUP 2014-15

            Understand what your saying but there are 29 other guys in the league that would like that problem.

          • runningbear1974

            Karlsson is weird one because coming off major surgery… But, his play this year is crazy, I’m hoping he’s not ruined… As for Spezza, well, I’m not a believer… He’ll dominate randomly throughout the season, but not dependably in the playoffs or when we need him…
            Do you think a team like Boston would want Spezza? Would he improve their team? Spezza is “better’ than Kreci(sp?) and Bergeron, yet, those 2 guys are more dependable in critical games…

      • Tooks

        That harder “work ethic” team would never win the Cup without some stars. Its the coaches job to handle the mix of talents. Every Stanley Cup winning team has its Superstars and mix of grinders.

        • runningbear1974

          Who are the “stars” on LA’s team? Or, on Boston’s team? Chicago has Kane that is comparable to Spezza, but no one believes they won the cup because of him… I don’t agree with you…
          Doughty and Keith are nowhere close to the liability Karlsson is the way he’s playing this year… What about Pittsburgh’s stars? Do they play like Spezza and Karlsson? Maybe Letang is comparable to Karlsson, but their forwards are more reliable defensively than Spezza…

    • FistsofNeil25

      Maclean deserves his fair share of the blame but Murray hasn’t given him enough to work with and that all lies at the feet of Eugene for being such a penny pincher.

      It’s hard for Murray and Maclean to do their job to the best of their abilities when ownership is handicapping them.

      • CUP 2014-15

        Not often I disagree with you Fists but this is a play-off roster IMO, not a top tier team but we sure as hell should not be where we are and I do put some of that on PM.

        • FistsofNeil25

          Like I said, Maclean deserves his fair share of the blame. He’s made questionable decisions this season from day one. I just don’t think that we’ve put him in the best position to succeed though either.

          • CUP 2014-15

            agreed

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      I agree. He has been a great coach but I still think Bobby Ryan should be getting 20 minutes a game! Its annoying too see Greening getting more ice time for what reason?

      • A-Train

        I agree. He is your best winger. Put him on the top line and leave him there. Demand that he do his job and accept nothing less. Does Phil Kessel play on the third line? No. He gets put out in a scrorers role over and over until he scores.

    • Tooks

      Anderson and Lehner/Bishop won him that Jack Adams, thats clear.

      • boom

        Yet anytime we question any of his moves – the instant rebuttal is “have you ever won the Jack Adams?” – pathetic…

    • boom

      I’m afraid you are right – and also suspect that Bobby Ryan feels the same way, whcih will make it hard for the Sens to re-sign him.

      I guess it doesn’t matter – we have Colin Greening, right MacLean?

      • Tooks

        Yeah mind boggling to have a 4 time 30 goal scorer on the bench while 0 goals Hoffman and Cory “waivers” Conacher on the ice for the last minute of the game.

        Maclean said he had a hunch…

        • Jacques

          I couldn’t get over him sending Conacher to serve that penalty! put Ryan in the box so he’s out there in the last half minute!

          • CUP 2014-15

            Head scratcher

    • Conans River

      Alfredson was a player and coach. Imagine that.

  • Jason

    Looking at the NHL.com trade tracker we picked up Patrick Mullen from Van for Jeff Costello. Haven’t heard anything about this, it’s obviously a minor deal but does anyone have any info on it?

    • SensChirp

      Happened yesterday. Luke Richardson needed another body in Binghamton due to injuries and suspension.

    • CUP 2014-15

      Career minor leaguer 27 y.o. small with a little offence. Simply a depth move for Bingo. Makes you believe one or more of our young D are on the move.

      • Alex

        actually there being a suspension and a couple of injuries they needed a warm body, Also when Borocop is in Ottawa next year he gives them a veteran on the back-end

  • Colin

    With any luck, BM is hung over after last night’s debacle and he will sleep through today’s stupidity.

    • CSI: Barbados

      Boooooo. This is NHL’s Christmas. Therefore you are Scrooge. Haha

    • FBP

      Most years I agree. This year I’m hoping a for a bit of a mix up. If Melnyk isn’t going to sell and is going to keep publicly speaking about our budget and “fickle” fan base we need some players that are oblivious to this kind of terrible ownership somehow.

      • CUP 2014-15

        the “fickle” fan base are your words I assume. As much as I think he’s a wacko, he has always sucked up to the fans in Ottawa and goes on about their great support.

        • FBP

          Nope. They’re his words. He’s been offhandedly trashing the fan base during the whole City/Casino debacle in an attempt to gain leverage.

          • CUP 2014-15

            Wow I don’t miss much in the press being retired and have never heard this or anything like it. Any idea of where or when such a comment was made?

          • FBP

            Just looked it up. My mistake. His quote was “finicky”.

          • CUP 2014-15

            where did you find that?

          • FBP

            A few places, but:

            http://www.the6thsens.com/2013-articles/november/melnyk-speaks-attendance-finicky-fans-internal-budget-and-alfie-s-return.html

            “we have a finicky fan base”

            Chirp, please delete this if I’m not allowed to link in the comments. Apologies in advance if so.

          • CUP 2014-15

            Got it, Rather Finicky then Fickle. But still not a good thing to say.

          • FBP

            Yeah I don’t like hearing it about myself.

  • Loyd

    Don’t post often. Got an email this morning from a buddy (Family connection to the org.) saying there’s going to be some moves today. Melnyk has told Bryan to load up in an attempt to make the playoffs, needs to try and make $. If the team doesn’t make the playoffs, the team will be put up for sale. It’s balls out apparently.
    I’d like them to make the playoffs but would also like a new owner…hmmm.

    • CSI: Barbados

      gds? … is that you?

      • sben

        Bonk’s mullet is that you?

        • CSI: Barbados

          At this time, I can’t release any names as the investigation is ongoing.

      • CUP 2014-15

        Perfect, LOL

    • Dirk-Diggler

      hahaha I’d love it then if Murray sat on his hands and Melnyk was gone at the end of the season

    • FBP

      From a business perspective I don’t get why he’d sell before the expansion boosts coming over the next year or two.

      • Loyd

        Because he can’t afford another year or two! Bright side is Bryan can now spend to the cap for the rest of the season if he wants to. Melnyk doesn’t care either way…..why would he if he’s selling it anyway. Just hope Bryan makes smart decisions, but i’m sure he will, and that we can find an owner with deep pockets if it comes to it.

        • Jacques

          Melnyk won’t sell now, everything is viable, he’ll make money! The two TV deals are sinking 400plus million into his business(closer to 550 million if you think about it!). He’s laughing!

          • FBP

            If this is legit Bryan would have the team to the cap by 10:35 am.

  • CSI: Barbados

    Don’t worry guys, I have my team of Forensic experts sniffing out a few leads.

  • Jacques

    Question from last nights game…. Why put Conacher in the box to serve Gryba’s instigator if you wouldn’t want him out there in the final 30 seconds to tie the game! Things like this reek of a coach who isn’t thinking!

    • Tooks

      Well not really, I would understand that a coach usually puts out a player who just ended his penalty to sort of re-deem himself and it quite often works but this time around consequences were much higher and Bobby should have been out there or Turris, ya know, our best players…lol.

      • Jacques

        Yeah but the guy you put in the box will be on the ice In the last 34seconds why put out CONACHER??? MaCLean just sent a useless guy over like you do in The middle of the game. This was a crucial time, he’s asleep at the wheel!

  • Gordon Ramsli

    MacArthur – Turris – Stewart
    Hoffman – Spezza – Ryan
    Michalek – Zibanejad – Stone
    Condra – Smith – Neil

    Grant

    Methot – Karlsson
    Borowiecki – Gryba
    Ceci – Phillips

    PW46

    ill gladly roll with this for the rest of the season! pick up stewart and let the kids play

  • Chris Maxim

    Martin Biron sounds like he put too much peanut butter on his toast this morning.

  • sben

    bonk’s mullet:

    Trade Deadline Commandments:

    1. Thou shalt not retweet fake insiders

    2. Thou shalt not manually RT

    3. Thou shalt not watch Sportsnet

  • TookieIs100PercentRight

    Once again Big Chirp pulls ahead of the other blogs with a deadline-dedicated thread and plentiful room to comment. This blog is quickly becoming one of the best, if not THE best, Senator fan blogs out there. Thanks Chirpy and keep it up!
    TOOKS100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!!

    • sben

      I second this.

    • SensChirp

      Much appreciated!

  • Jacques

    Get rid of the deadwood Murray! And go get some good assets with term to set this program up for the next ten years! Michalek,Phillips, Cowen,Greening,Condra, and yes Spezza are your tools to achieve this! Now to work you old FOOL! if Phillips comes with a pen tell him to FOFF!

  • WolfInSheepsClothes

    Trade Deadline aside – I’m really looking forward to gloating on this site when we do make the playoffs this year. My god, that’s going to be sweet.

    • my2sens

      Loving your optimism!

    • FistsofNeil25

      and what have they done to make you believe they can get there? Honestly. If they can’t go into Edmonton last night and beat the second worst team in the NHL in a must win game, what leads you to believe they can still make the playoffs? I really want to know.

      • WolfInSheepsClothes

        We’ve shown at times this season that we can compete “with the big boys” (BOS/STL/PIT/etc.) so it’s not unreasonable to think that we can make a solid push. 20 games to go. If we go 13-6-1 that’ll give us the 92pts thought to be needed to make the playoffs this year. Very do-able

    • FBP

      I really hope you get to this. I’d gladly let you dance and laugh at me.

    • CUP 2014-15

      I am with you pal, positive waves all day long. well at least until 4PM or so tonight. Need to add to make this happen.

  • my2sens

    Today should be a national holiday.

    • Richard Gough

      Yes sir

      • my2sens

        Really getting tired of F5 on 3 sites for updates and ALT+TAB when the boss comes around!

        • Colin

          Depending on your browser, you should be able to get a plugin that will auto-refresh.

  • my2sens

    Jets looking for a D & F?? We have some… is there anyone there who could help us in return? Or a 3 way?

  • Andrews theory

    Any trades we were going to make to push for the playoffs should have been made about 10 games ago. what a waste… I don’t think this team is that far off, they just have lapses like any other young team.
    Might as well wait till the summer to pull the trigger at this point as opposed to over paying.
    Still cannot understand the Conacher move for the life of me.

  • SensChirp

    In a little over an hour we’ll find out if Cory Conacher cleared waivers. Talk yesterday suggested he’ll get picked up by someone.

    • iSens

      I would be very surprised if he didn’t. Would have to think some sort of trade goes down today. Why else put him on waivers?!

    • A-Train

      Hope it is somewhere far, far away. Dealing with his antics on a division rival is going to be sickening.

      • FistsofNeil25

        hahaha yeah he’s such a shit disturber. I love how hard he plays but he just lacks offensive touch and hockey sense. He’s a good energy guy but that’s about it. Hopefully he lands on his feet somewhere.

      • FBP

        Who has first shot – Buffalo, Edmonton, Calgary?

        • PraiseAlfie11

          Bottom to top…

    • CUP 2014-15

      Wonder if TBay would put in a claim ?

  • Millennium

    Give me something to get excited about Murray. Resigning a 5/6 D man and not trading Michalek isn’t gonna make this team any different!

  • Andrews theory

    If Loyd is legit and it does seem to make sense… Now is actually the perfect time for Melnyk to sell the team. He just set up some lucrative deals for any potential buyer, they have tons of cap space and team that is stocked with great young talent.
    Melnyk’s return on his investment will likely be bettern now than at any other point.
    If missing the playoffs means we can lose our wing nut owner, count me in…

    • Millennium

      Odds Loyd is legit: 0.0001%
      Odds Melnyk sells this team: 0.0001%
      Dreaming about Melnyk selling the team: Priceless.

      • Loyd

        So your sayin’ there’s a chance!!
        Too ironic…Loyd Christmas from Dumb and Dumber…

  • Andrews theory

    I like to post in threes…. If Murray signs Phillips for another 2 years after the craziness with Conacher yesterday and the Alfie debacle, I’m going to start getting nervous and second guessing him.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Start?

      I’m already there…. And am only holding off figuratively hanging myself because I am trying to give him the benefit of doubt that he has a plan

      • A-Train

        Just a reminder: He has a plan and he’s stated it repeatedly. He wants to contend this year and next and he thinks he needs a veteran forward to do it.

        Is that the right plan? Very debatable, but I’m sure it was part of the mandate he got from ownership with his new contract.

  • senate19

    Would anybody really be surprised to see Spezza traded today? I can’t help but wonder. I believe Potvin wouldn’t make the Anaheim stuff up, so that tells me teams are actually asking about him, and now might be the time to haul in a lot for his services.

    • FistsofNeil25

      I’m sure teams are interested in acquiring Spezza and Murray is more than willing to listen to offers, but the odds of a team meeting Murray’s asking price for Spezza are very very slim.

    • A-Train

      I think it takes a little longer to get a Spezza deal done. Too many balls in the air right now.

      • Richard Gough

        So what is the asking price ?

        • A-Train

          From Murray’s point of view he would want someone who helps the team right away as part of the deal. So not just picks and prospects. Doesn’t sound like a deadline deal.

    • OverMind

      i find it interesting that Spezza was putting on a show last night,
      maybe the guy wants to be traded. i mean clearly there must be some
      frustration with the coach as expressed by Ryan last night. Spezza is
      playing kind of on the third line getting 15 mins TOI some nights, and
      our team sucks. If Anaheim is interested and my speculation that
      Spezza wouldn’t mind a trade i could see this happening. Spezza just
      doesn’t fit our system

      • senate19

        I tend to agree with this.. He’s said in the past that he’s willing to move if the team wants to move him, and it’s not like he’s in his ideal situation. Granted, he’s a captain now, which he’s always wanted.

        Still a long shot he gets traded, but if there’s a contender out there with the assets available, like Anaheim for example, I can see a team pushing hard today.

    • sben

      We know that Potvin has been drunk in the past 2 or 3 hours or so (See Below) … I don’t know how credible he is at this point. It is fun to make fun of bad sports announcers.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    HockeyInsider twitter account saying Sens have serious interest in Cammelleri. I wouldnt be opposed to this. I think he would light it up with Spezza.

    • my2sens

      Don’t like the $$ he’s tied to though…

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Meh

    • PraiseAlfie11

      That clown is still around?

    • Jacques

      He sucks and he’s a jackass!

    • Andrews theory

      pass… and i cant see Murray dealing with Burke. I get the sense that he thinks he’s a dick.

    • Doc

      God god no. What’s with all the love for wash up players.

      Pass.

  • SensChirp

    May have our first deal of the day….

    @Russostrib- I’m hearing now Gaborik to #lakings is a done deal. Don’t know for what

    • Richard Gough

      Good job LA on picking up Gaby

    • Millennium

      Glad the Gaborik to Ottawa rumour didn’t happen.

    • Kohlmanator

      Curious about the return…

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Good another piece I don’t want gone.

      • Doc

        No kidding.

    • JRMcPeeWee

      May not be safe yet

  • Dirk-Diggler

    If LA loads up maybe that puts more pressure on Anaheim to push harder for Spezza

    • Richard Gough

      I am hearing Kessler isn’t going anywhere on tell the summer

      So that will make Spezza open for business

    • Jacques

      Chicago, I’m thinking cuz Regin is their 2C right now!

      • Doc

        Handzus is, Regin is their 3C.

        • Jacques

          That’s a sad 2-3

    • Millennium

      I think Miller to St Louis raised the stakes for that upper echelon in the West. All those teams are seriously pushing, so could make them all look for big names.

    • A-Train

      I just don’t see Murray swinging a deadline deal on Spezza. With so many other things to deal with it just doesn’t make sense. Possibly the Ryan negotiations laid some kind of foundation…but I’m deeply skeptical.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Timmy Murray has been awfully quiet so far today. You would have to think that Moulson and Halak must go.

    • my2sens

      Everybody is quiet. Gonna be a fun last few hours… or perhaps not.

  • SensChirp

    And now it sounds like Marty St. Louis is about to become a Ranger.

    • my2sens

      Couldn’t he go West… far, far West!?

    • senate19

      Why does it feel like the Rangers have no CAP, too much money to blow, everyone wants to play there, etc. Kinda like the NYY of the NHL. I guess this stuff is obvious to most people.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Yzerman better be getting a good haul otherwise that’s a deal he should have made in the offseason. A St Louis trade takes the wind out of the sales for a fanbase that was just told Stammer is about to make his return.

    • Doc

      I don’t think there was any doubt that would be the case.

      Curious to see what is going the other way though.

    • Millennium

      Its gotta be some serious problems for Marty to demand out of a better team to go to the Rangers this late in the season. Disrespect over snubs is one thing, but that is unreal.

    • Andrews theory

      that give them an average age of 52 on their first line lol….
      next season they’ll have to change the rules to allow that line to play with canes.

      • Cicero

        But they’re playing with the rangers.

  • iKarly65

    “The Sabres are expected to be a team with interest” But they didn’t try to include him in a deal for Stewart?

    • SensChirp

      Interest for free haha

  • Andrews theory

    Kessler will probably get hurt between now and the end of the year losing any prospective deals… still flabergasted that they are continuing to allow Gillis to steer this ship. The rebuild has started but usually you are supposed to get something in return for your assets lol…

  • sbs138

    our so-called top 6 (kinda) since start of 2014 (past 20 Sens games):
    Bobby Ryan = 8 pts (in 20 games since USA didn’t name him to Olympic team. 36 pts in first 42 games).
    Jason Spezza = 19 pts (18 games)
    Kyle Turris = 13 pts
    CMac = 15 pts
    Milo = 9 pts
    Zbad = 9 pts
    No wonder we won’t make the playoffs when our top offensive players can’t put the puck in the net. Give Zbad some slack since he bounced around between centre on 3rd line and playing wing with Spez.
    we need offense, but we need D too.
    ugggh.

    • Jacques

      That’s why to a certain extent, I’d blow it up a little. Who knows you could still slip into the playoffs anyhow!

  • Cicero

    The only thing I know for sure is that we need to make room for emerging prospects, although we’re not entirely sure which ones just yet. I think we need to keep the safety lock on until the picture of the future looks clearer.

    The moves the Sens need to make are more of the off-season type IMO. We don’t want rentals, and we don’t really have quality rentals to offer.

    Moving Spezza is not really realistic today. What would teams offer for him as a rental? We would need a power forward and vet D in return, and no team making a serious playoff run would give up those. Spezza for a 1st round in 2015 and a young top-4 RH D might be a good deal, but again who would bite now? Nobody.

    • Jacques

      Spezza has another year , he ain’t a rental. A rental is a guy on an expiring contract!

    • A-Train

      If you’re convinced we “need” to make room for prospects but can’t think of which ones…maybe it’s time to ask yourself if that’s really the team’s biggest need. Just a thought.

      • Cicero

        Good point! Maybe the biggest need is time and patience….I’m just going to sit back and keep cheering them on until they squeak into that final Wild Card spot!

  • CSI: Barbados

    Conacher likely claimed by Buffalo. My forensic agents are digging deeper.

    • Jacques

      Ok Eugene!

    • CSI: Barbados

      SN reporting it’s done. Bye-bye Conacher

      • FBP

        This is kind of shitty for us. Good for Conacher. Dammit Tim Murray!

    • A-Train

      Puke. Kill me now. I suspect Conacher was a Tim guy all along. If we’re trying to swing a deal with Buff we couldn’t use him as leverage?

  • Millennium

    Man TSN is eating MSL alive for this situation. Turned on him in seconds, now he’s a malcontent and ‘needs to put on his big boy pants’. This about they guy they couldn’t stop loving a couple weeks ago

    • FistsofNeil25

      He’s pulling a Heatley. A move like that can quickly change public opinion.

      • Millennium

        There’s a lot more to this than there was to Heatley’s situation I think. There’s a ton of ‘behind the scenes’ stuff that none of these guys, or us, know about, I’m guessing. St. Louis has never been a prima donna like Heatley. I’m not excusing him from this, but they’re pretty quick to judge with little to no evidence.

  • CSI: Barbados

    Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 57s
    No official confirmations (yet) but hearing NYR are prepared to trade Callahan, plus 1st rd pick and 2nd rd pick for Marty St. Louis. Close.

    That’s a HUGE price for a guy who likely only has a season or two left in him with his age. Yikes.

    • Jacques

      Well Callahan is a fifteen goal scorer not overpayment I think!

    • Doc

      Very good trade for Tampa!

      • CSI: Barbados

        As long as they re-sign Callahan.

        • Millennium

          Mac says they have no interest in resigning him at $6M+/yr

  • Finn 8

    Sounds like tampa got bad deal!!!!

  • Cicero

    ITT: Why we are fans and not managers.

  • iSens

    Conacher picked up by Buffalo!

    • Millennium

      Source?

      • Moudy Mahfouz

        Stupid Murray, now a move has to be done…

      • FBP

        Sportsnet.

        • Millennium

          Thanks. Didn’t realize I wasn’t following them on twitter.

      • iSens

        Hockey Central‏@SNHockeyCentral·
        Buffalo picked up Conacher off waivers.

        • iSens

          Only odd thing. Not supposed to be announced until noon?

          • Millennium

            They might be able to tell who has put in a claim. Not sure.. Since Buffalo has #1 priority, if we know they entered a claim, they win by default.

    • my2sens

      Need to find a padded room stat.

    • CrazyFish

      I don’t get why we gave up on him so fast, especially when Greening keeps getting chances on the top lines and does nothing seems like such a waste to get rid of him for nothing.

  • Mitchell

    Idk about all you but I feel like blaming Phillips for no trades from Ottawa right now. Taking all of BMs time with his stinking contract. Screw the valve of “long time here” value. What about Fisher, Kelly, Vermette… This is about moving forward not over paying or losing roster spots for someone to point out the obvious. If BM is serious about the future then the reality is the rebuild is over its time for a resolution for all the draft years and development and gets us some pure talents to get over this hump. Screw the rental bs. If were good and we have great team who wouldn’t want to resign here. It’s not to play next to Philips. It’s to play next to Karlsson.

  • SensChirp

    Conacher update at the top of the post.

    • Millennium

      I’d love to know how many teams put in a claim on him.

    • FistsofNeil25

      I find it so hard to believe we couldn’t get at the very least a 6th or 7th round pick for the guy.

  • NO65*

    So Conacher was picked up by the Sabres. Glad for him.

  • Millennium

    Renaud Lavoie ‏@LavoieRenaud 43s
    Confirming Martin St-Louis is traded to the Rangers for Ryan Callahan. #lightning #tvasports

    • CUP 2014-15

      He is right 100% of the time

    • NO65*

      What a mess, I would have told Marty to wait in the summer. Tampa could miss the playoffs without him.

  • NO65*

    I’m starting to miss Silfverberg. Pmac is messing with Ryan’s head right now. I don’t like that. I don’t see Ryan resigning with the Sens if this doesn’t change.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Agree 100%….such a bullshit season

      I have to blame a lot on him….. No clue what he is doing juggling the lines so much

  • Sicilian

    Conacher isn’t from Buffalo… He’s from Burlington, Ontario

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Pretty close

      • Sicilian

        Ok, I thought it came across like he was American…

        • SensChirp

          That’s fair. Corrected. Bout an hour from Buffalo though.

    • WolfInSheepsClothes

      Went to school in Buffalo. Considers it “home”

      • Alex

        went to school at caniscious (spelling?) about 1and1/2 from here

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    Such bs… What a piece of shit move that was.

  • MacK

    So does Conacher being picked up by BUF mean that Tim Murray will give Uncle Bryan a sweet deal?

  • Millennium

    Down side: We officially lost the Bishop trade
    Up side: Tampa is losing MSL.

    KARMA

    • Andrews theory

      TBAY got a return… Tim just screwed his uncle

  • Andrews theory

    callahan 1st and 2nd for st louis… not bad…

    • Millennium

      2015 1st no less

  • Jacques

    Gatineau boy Parenteau might be coming our way

    • Jordan

      Source??

    • iSens

      Heard going to Habs?

    • CSI: Barbados

      source or gtfo

  • TookieIs100PercentRight

    St. Louis to Rangers for Callahan and picks!
    DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN. Glad we don’t play the Rangers soon.

    • boom

      Or Tampa – Stamkos is back.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Man that’s a huge trade. When was the last time two playoff teams swapped captains?

    • FBP

      The Golden Seals sent Steve McGilligan to the Whalers for Bruce Kotch in ’61.

    • Richard Gough

      That a rancher 1st is 2015 wow !

  • A-Train

    I need someone to interpret this Conacher business. A positive spin, a conspiracy theory….anything?

    • cc

      He doesn’t fit in our group, sure we could of tried to acquire a mid-round pick – but let’s face if, teams have much more important discussions to talk part in today…

    • SuperSENS

      Well, Bishop’s played pretty well so far in his first season as a starter in the NHL, but there is still a chance (however remote that might be at the moment) he could not amount to much too. So the Bishop/Conacher might turn out to be a minor footnote in Senators history. We’ll know more in a few years.

      • A-Train

        I’m actually less worried about trading Bishop than I am about giving up on Conacher the way Murray did. And to have him used so prominently last night. It just doesn’t make sense and leads me to believe there is some disarray behind the scenes. Will wait and see how today plays out though.

        • SuperSENS

          Yeah, it’s a bit weird to do that, but maybe the coach thought he’d play a strong game because he’d have something to prove, having been put on waivers by the team. I’m a bit disappointed to see him go, but at the same time, he never really excelled all that much with us either.

    • Tooks

      Who cares its fucking Conacher, he wasnt going to be anything more than a plug here. Nobody wanted to give anything for him. Hence why they waited he was on waivers to pick him up for FREE…

  • FistsofNeil25

    I wonder if Tampa Bay has another move up their sleeves. The eastern conference is wide open and with Stammer coming back they could have a legit chance of going to the finals if they were to make another move.

  • esk

    did murray toss conacher to his nephew….lmao

    • SuperSENS

      Yeah, like a good ol’ fashioned game of ‘hot potato’. :)

      • MacK

        or ‘ice cold potato’ if we’re talking about Conacher this year sadly…

        • SuperSENS

          Well, the game IS called ‘hot potato’ … my intention was that whoever gets stuck with him loses. :P

    • xiorcal

      3pm Murray resign as Gm of the Ottawa Senator and blame this year on Melnyk before he announce taking the job of President of Hockey operations in buffalo ;-P

  • cc

    Bad loss last night. I liked the lines near the end of the game.

    9MM-15ZM-14CG seemed to generate some chances, Taking Chris Neil out meant they were more of an offensive threat.

    clearly we shouldn’t mess with 6BR-9RT-16CM.

    I didn’t mind 93MZ-19JZ-MH-68

    Condra+TBD + Neil would make for an okay energy line.

    • Jacques

      That last line should help out at the concessions stand!

    • CSI: Barbados

      CC.. as in Cory Conacher? Cody Ceci? Cory Clouston? Chris Campoli?

  • Paradocs

    So, should we assume Kassian is playing tonight?

    • Millennium

      Probably. Even with a trade, they’re out in Calgary so doubt anyone would join the team in time.

      • SuperSENS

        Unless we dealt for someone on Calgary :S

      • sprucesens

        hemsky or cammalleri would make it in time…

  • Jacques

    Spezza to Anaheim in a package that includes Palmieri (big bud of Bobby Ryan)another forward or D and a pick?… Looks like there’s an arms race going on out west. Being discussed.

    • FistsofNeil25

      lol

      • Jacques

        Lol

    • Jacques

      Chirp wants lots of posts trying to help out!

      • my2sens

        We need gds here then.. he could run up the tally…

        Speaking of which, first time today Murray left his office!

        • Jacques

          Had to pee again?

          • my2sens

            More than likely. :-)

  • FBP

    Garrioch burn for absolutely no reason.

    • CohMa

      Because Garrioch is a pompous ass….

    • SensChirp

      Well I did say “imagine”!

      Also find it pretty unlikely Bryan is telling Bruce about each discussion he has.

  • Millennium

    So if NYR gets to the Conference finals, it ends up being Callahan and 2 first round picks for MSL.

    Nicely done Stevie Y, that’s a good deal for a player that demanded out.

  • A-Train

    Just made the mistake of turning on sportsnet. Heard the word “impactful” four times in 45 seconds. These guys are taking over national hockey broadcasts for the next decade plus?

    • CUP 2014-15

      They will be….you got it Impactful

    • SuperSENS

      This post reminded me why I don’t watch Sportsnet for anything other than broadcasts of Senators games (even though Potvin is intolerable in his own right).

    • Jacques

      They’re better than the CBC!

  • my2sens

    Lunch break? Everything went dead silent.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Assuming we don’t make the playoffs, a Lightning vs Rangers eastern conference finals sounds pretty appealing to me.

  • iSens

    Darren Dreger‏@DarrenDreger 53 secs
    Continuing to hear Ottawa and Pittsburgh in the mix for Hemsky. #Tradecentre

    I just don’t get it. I feel like we already have almost the same player in the lineup with Michalek. Talented, yet streaky!

    • Tooks

      Michalek has no knees. Hemsky still has some left…lol.

  • A-Train

    Smelling a Hemsky trade. Having a hard time getting excited about it.

    • Jordan

      Me to…. Disapointing day so far.

    • CrazyFish

      God I hope not, we don’t need more injury prone players lets get rid of ours.

    • Jacques

      Why you acquire him and you make him an offer, this guy will be flying once he gets his ass outta Edmonton!

      • SuperSENS

        Doubtful.

    • SuperSENS

      Ditto.

  • MacK

    TSN is saying that Sens and Pens are in on Hemsky!

    • sprucesens

      i imagine we are in on hemsky, cammy, and moulson/stewart still. last 2 have highest price, that we should not pay. hemsky or cammy for a mid to high pick, and if so, resigning, its not a bad deal. but a pure rental is a huge NO NO. we lost to the oilers both times this year. we struggled mightily against the sabres. we are not going to beat out 6 other teams for the bottom 2 wild card spots unless we aquire all 4 rentals, and even then, its not likely. So please, just sell off our extra bodies….

      i have a feeling we do absolutely nothing, and i lose a lot of care for this year. We need a winning streak that is well above how we’ve played this year, just to even have a sniff. The team has barely ran off a few games in a row, let alone 16 of the next 20…

      • Jacques

        Hemsky would love our run and gun style with Karlsson bringing the puck up to him!

  • Paradocs

    So the real question to conclude with conacher: who will be better, Thomas Vanelli or Tobias Lindberg?

    • Paradocs

      Vanelli: the pick we gave up to get Bishop
      Lindberg: the pick we got with Conacher for Bishop

  • xN1Cx

    Moulson pulled from practise?

    • Perry

      Is that a question or a statement? source?

    • iSens

      Where did you hear this?

    • CSI: Barbados

      Source or gtfo

      • Jacques

        GDS

      • xN1Cx

        whoa! Just saw it in the HB Boards – not credible

  • SoCal

    A trade for Hemsky, at this point, stinks of desperation. Kind of a bonehead move to get a bona fide rental with a slim to none chance to make the playoffs.

    • SuperSENS

      IMO not that great of a rental either.

  • cc

    If we get Hemsky, i think it includes 14CG or 2JC

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      could be a Milo swap, too.

      • FistsofNeil25

        How does that help Edmonton?

        • cc

          it doesn’t, unless it’s a trade and sign. they could use size, but that’s why i said CG because of the term left.

          • FistsofNeil25

            My question was for Jason and the Milo swap. CG for Hemsky would make sense for Edmonton I would think. Murray wouldn’t sell that low on Cowen though.

  • MacK

    Who would you rather? Moulson, Stewart, Parenteau or Hemsky?

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      The Sens aren’t making the playoffs, so I would honestly rather see the organization try a guy like Mark Stone or even give Shane Prince his chance and give these guys a chance to crack the lineup. A little too late for trades, I’m afraid.

      • FBP

        It just sucks that he ended up in the division, with a relative of BM’s.

      • SoCal

        No kidding. Save your rental trade for a year we’re actually in the playoffs

    • sprucesens

      top 3 for me, assuming we can resign…..

      Parenteau, who has contract, cammy needs resigning, hemsky needs resigning

  • sben

    wonder if prince is one of the pieces in on the hemsky trade.

    • FBP

      That’d be great.

  • Jacques

    Would take Moulson and Hemsky and hopefully sign both of them!

  • Millennium

    Jesus Burke looks like a wizard from from a fantasy movie

  • SoCal

    Spezza for O’Reilly + ? Back to you.

  • my2sens

    Is Zach Smith OK? Tweeted ‘P’

  • my2sens

    Phillips agreed to 2 years

    • sben

      nothing new. And it is more like the sens agreed to two years. He wanted 2 years sens wanted one. I don’t like the money either. Phillips is only slightly better than corvo. Tom gilbert is better than phillips and is getting paid 2 million a year.

  • Perry

    Holy Chris Phillips new contract….. WTF

  • Andrews theory

    OH HELL NO! PHILLIPS SIGNS A TWO YEAR DEAL

  • FBP

    2.5. Reasonable.

  • MacK

    nice argument with Dregder and Burkie there! lol

    • FistsofNeil25

      I was about to say the same. So funny.

  • Kohlmanator

    Phillips signs 2yr 2.5 per…

    As per @Real_ESPNLeBrun Chris Phillips and OTT have agreed to 2 year contract at $2.5M per year. #Tradecentre

    • cc

      that sucks.

    • Jacques

      What an overpayment.

  • Millennium

    Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1m
    As per @Real_ESPNLeBrun Chris Phillips and OTT have agreed to 2 year contract at $2.5M per year. #Tradecentre

    • FistsofNeil25

      That second year is disgusting.

      • sben

        interesting adjective.

    • Aaron 2.0

      So, basically at that price, BM sees CP as a regular part of the D core for 2 more years. Puke. If that’s a sign of the thought process on the current status of our defensive situation, I think we’re in for some long years.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Ill take the Phillips signing at 2.5 million. Basically for his veteran leadership

    • cc

      overpaid. he’s shouldn’t even be in our top 4

      • FBP

        He won’t be.

        • BFR

          Then he’s overpaid for bottom pairing D. This deal screams the ‘Alfie effect’ from last years debacle.

          • Aaron 2.0

            That’s exactly what I think is going on too!

      • Moudy Mahfouz

        him and Ceci have some potential

        • Jacques

          Poor Ceci

        • Aaron 2.0

          Ceci has great potential! CP reached his a long time ago. The issue is his age and drop in play every year. It’s not his fault of anything, but I don’t get this move at all.

  • sprucesens

    FML phillips

  • Jacques

    Fudge!

  • A-Train

    Hi Phillips haters. Deep breathing guys.

    • Aaron 2.0

      I know we went back and forth with this yesterday, and I really don’t want to start a long thread again, but I just want to say, I don’t hate Phillips at all. He’s a great guy, and played some great puck for this team. I’ll forever be appreciative we had him (apparently still have him – LOL). At the end of the day, I’m still a Sens fan, and hope he proves my concerns wrong.

  • Millennium

    So basically BM caved on term and money to Phillips. Not pleased with this.

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    Vetran leadership
    It is worth it for the young guys

  • Alex

    this was a good thing for the sens get over it.
    Now this at least means BM can focus elswhere

  • Jacques

    Then go get us CONNOLLY now from Tampa now they want a D-MAN for him! I dynamic young forward who can snipe! Do IT!

  • Cicero

    Good to get the Big Rig squared away.

    Now I wonder what the Leafsfan Provocateurs here will rant about next….

  • Perry

    Pierre McGuire: “Phillips can still skate and keep people to the outside” uhhhhhhhh….

    • sben

      pierre mcguire= doesn’t think when he talks

    • Andrews theory

      CORRECTION, Phillips can still stand in front of his own goalie and push people

    • Jacques

      He didn’t watch last night.

    • BFR

      I guess he didn’t catch the highlights from last night.

      • Aaron 2.0

        LOL. Oh Pierre.

  • Andrews theory

    APPARENTLY PHILLIPS HAS HELPED CECI… GOOD MAKE HIM A COACH
    HORRIBLE!

  • sprucesens

    so, so far we’ve given away a player for free, and resigned an old player for 2 more years, that hurts us more often than not….yay

    • Millennium

      this deadline has just been so Sens it hurts

    • Jacques

      Woot Woot, should have given the job to Timmy!

  • FBP

    It’ll be a great deal if it means Big Rig opens a new downtown location.

  • MacK

    Ok, time to lay off Phillips and show some loyality! I’m happy to have him back…say what you will!

    • Andrews theory

      We’ll see how you feel next year when we have better options sitting on the bench, in the minors or lost for minimal return

  • Millennium

    Phillips cementing his future career as a player agent though; negotiated that all himself.

    • Aaron 2.0

      Wow – Good for him – Definitely has a future as an agent!

  • sben

    What happened with hemsky? Is the deal still going? I hope not.

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    Phillips wanted to stay

    Hard to argue loyalty

    Plus 2.5 is cheap

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Hockeybuzz (not reliable source ) is saying Colorado has talked Spezza trade…Idiots hes not getting traded

    • sprucesens

      generates hits and comments

    • SuperSENS

      Pro tip: Don’t read Hockeybuzz. :)

    • Millennium

      ‘talked’ is pretty broad. I’m sure they called, asked for the price tag, laughed, and hung up

    • Jacques

      O’Reilly please or I ‘d even take Stastny, if we can sign him this afternoon. Stastny takes care of his own end at least!

  • Jordan

    So phillips signed. Lets make some moves here.

  • A-Train

    My last comment on Phillips: not a single commentator ripped this deal. Granted some of those guys are idiots but if it was such a bad deal don’t you think at least someone would have said so? Anyway….moving on.

  • Kohlmanator

    Bob McKenzie
    ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

    Hearing EDM’s Ales Hemsky is going to OTT for picks. No official confirmation or details just yet.

    • my2sens

      WOW!

    • SuperSENS

      Oy. I hope Bob heard wrong.

    • Jacques

      Awesome in time to win tonight’s game!

    • Millennium

      ONE DAY TOO LATE ALES

    • sprucesens

      should have done it yesterday. then we might be in a better posistion….

    • MacK

      better not be a 1st or 2nd rounder

      • Kohlmanator

        Better not be true, lol.

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    Unfucking real

  • Andrews theory

    oh jesus….hemsky to sens for picks.
    we couldnt have done that before last night when he single handedly beat us?

    • Jacques

      Haha , I know what crap that was!

    • SoCal

      seriously. A little late for this move… I’m beginning to believe Loyd

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    WOW

  • Alex

    Fucking YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • my2sens

    If only for picks…. even better!!!

  • my2sens

    Awkward for Hemsky, no?

    Hello boys, sorry about last night… er… so, how is everyone!?

  • FistsofNeil25

    Man this isn’t a knock on Phillips but what is wrong with this organization. They feel a need to absolutely keep Chris Phillips out of respect and for his veteran leadership when they should have shown some urgency and respect to DANIEL ALFREDSSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Becaus that would have been fucking logical

  • FBP

    Seriously though – one day earlier might have saved the season.

  • Alex

    But remember guys I LOVE Hemsky keep in mind he’s like spezza in the sense that he’s a pass first guy not going to score a lot and we’ll wish he shoots more all the same welcome aboard Ales

    • Jacques

      Time to move Spezza now!

      • SuperSENS

        /facepalm

      • Alex

        Hemsky is not a spezza replacement

  • Jacques

    Hemsky will surprise people , don’t worry! He’s been in a cage in Edmonton, he’ll be awesome in ottawa!

    • sben

      He is in the cage because he is probably the most injury prone guy out there. Excited to see what will happen

      • Jacques

        Talk about something you’re knowledgeable about!

        • sben

          huh? HE gets injuries all the time. I don’t understand why you would deny that. He gets injuries almost every year.

        • Colin

          Get your head out of your ass and look up his stats. he has played 81 games only once. other than that, he has not been able to play a full season.

        • SuperSENS

          #irony

    • SuperSENS

      Yeah, he’ll surprise me at how awful he’ll be. :P

    • FistsofNeil25

      Too little too late Jacques that’s the f’n problem here

      • SuperSENS

        Yep. You nailed it!

  • sben

    bob mac:

    Hearing EDM’s Ales Hemsky is going to OTT for picks. No official confirmation or details just yet.

  • Cicero

    Inside source tells me that the trade is retroactive to 6 p.m. yesterday, so we beat the Oilers 4-1. Good job, BM.

  • karlssens

    Man fuck the Phillips resigning

  • Millennium

    So we might have 2 streaky injury prone wingers leaving in July? Cool.

    • SuperSENS

      Yep. Exactly why I’m not a fan of this deal whatsoever.

  • Perry

    HEMSKY TO OTT is done

  • Mitch35

    I would think that Ales Hemsky should be able to play tonight in Calgary?

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Ales Hemsky is a UFA at the end of the season.

    Do we make the playoffs with him? Probably not.

  • Alex

    hemsky done as per Bobby Mac

  • Conor_smythe

    Phillips can still be traded!

    hopefully this was part of BM’s plan to begin with… sign and trade, to colorado

    pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease

    • Alex

      ntc …

      • Conor_smythe

        limited ntc.. he had to submit a list in january… if he didn’t we can trade him anywhere, if he did, we can trade him to 1 of 20 teams

      • BFR

        FML

  • my2sens

    Do we still have Leclaire’s bubble wrap?

  • esk

    hemsky to ottawa for picks..not confirmed

  • SensChirp

    Hemsky update at the top of the post!

    • Millennium

      3rd and 5th?

  • karlssens

    Yes Hemsky!!

  • cc

    Hemsky done deal?

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    3rd and a 5th ill take that Bryan Murray gets me again..Def will take that

  • MacK

    YES! Hemsky for a 3rd and 5th! TOTALLY WORTH IT!

  • my2sens

    Erik Karlsson ‏@ErikKarlsson65 1m
    Happy to see @CPhillipsFour staying with us for another 2years. Congrats Big Rig. :) #sens

    • Tooks

      Shut up Karlsson you idiot!

  • karlssens

    Hopefully he resigns

  • Millennium

    Big question, can Hemsky get to Calgary by tonight????

    • Sensturion

      Seeing as it’s a 45 minute (if that!) flight from Edmonton? I should hope so.

    • Jacques

      Only 10 AM

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Wait, only a 3rd and a 5th? We keep Shane Prince??

    Ok, not bad.

  • karlssens

    Only 29

  • Sensturion

    I’m ok with Hemsky. He knows the area seeing as he used to play for the Olympiques.

  • sben

    hemsky for 3rd and 5th rounders

  • CSI: Barbados

    Great deal for Hemsky. 3rd in 2015, 5th in 2014. Low price, hopefully he keeps playing like he did last night.

  • Andrews theory

    3rd and 5th rounder going other way for hemsky

  • Cicero

    So jsut curious….what 2015 picks do we have remaining? (specifically, 1st and 2nd round)

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    EDM also retains some salary…. This is an easy win for the Sens my goodness.

    • Sicilian

      yah, it’s amazing how good this deal is. I saw the draft picks going the other way and I thought, ICE CREAM. Then I found out now conditional draft pick if we sign him and I thought, FUDGE and they’re also eating half the salary??? SPRINKLES

  • FistsofNeil25

    Edmonton retaining half Hemsky’s salary. #Budget

  • Aaron 2.0

    Well, the Hemsky move doesn’t cost much. But, as a UFA, again, I have no clue what BM is doing. I guess we’re loading up for the playoffs? Lol. If he re-signs here, that’d be good I guess.

    • SuperSENS

      I hope he doesn’t resign here.

      • Aaron 2.0

        So, then a rental. LOL. I’m lost. Prove me wrong Sens, and make the playoffs!

        • SuperSENS

          Yeah, they better hope they make the playoffs now, or it’s kind of a pointless move. No disrespect to Hemsky, but he’s basically like Michalek in being a streaky scorer and injury prone.

  • MacK

    HA HA HA! EDM is keeping salary! Even better! :)

  • my2sens

    Lehner must have helped with the neogitations! #Lehnerstare

  • Richard Gough

    That not a bad deal but is Murray still going to pull a larger rabbit out of his hat by 3 pm?

  • ZibbyFan

    we shudda made this move yesterday – we would have won the game!

  • Alex

    AT half price no less? did Murray become a wizard for 2 minutes?

    • MacK

      Murray has wizard blood…nothing new!

  • MacK

    Next question, if Hemsky plays well with Spezza, do we resign him?

  • Millennium

    I don’t think the Hemsky deal is game changer, but I promise to be optimistic about him

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    He should play tonight
    It is only 10 30 am in alberta

  • Andrews theory

    real question is, if Hemsy plays with Spezza who’s the shooter?

    • Aaron 2.0

      Could work. But both of those guys take time to build chemistry with other players though. They’re both crafty types.

    • Cicero

      The Dangle Duo of Death!

  • Richard Gough

    It a only a 3.5 hr drive from EDM to Calgary

    • sprucesens

      at 90kph…. 2.5 for hemsky, he wants the fuck out

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    Great deal?!?

    Waste of space

    • Jacques

      Very good deal. A guy with skill, we have too many guys who can’t do dick!

      • SuperSENS

        And now we have one more!

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        For hemsky it’s decent…. Philips not so much

  • Richard Gough

    Looks like Bruce has eaten to many Donuts today

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    Weird to get an ufa
    We are not making playoffs

  • Sen John’s

    Hemsky Spezza Ryan
    Mac Turris Stewart

    Make it happen Murray!

    • Jacques

      You have 2 right wingers on the Spezza line!

      • Sen John’s

        Didn’t even look to be honest, just want those as our top six.

    • MacK

      drool…
      I’d line up like this though
      Hemsky Spezza Stewart
      Mac Turris Ryan

  • BeJamin

    On lunch at work. On Phillips – I think he’s done but realistically after the Alfie fiasco this may just be a PR contract. Shows the rest of the league we still respect our veteran players and that’s worth something. In terms of what he brings he’s still capable of being an occasional 6th defender, although given his $ amount it suggests he’ll be doing more than just that. I can live with him in a 3rd pairing role but it’s far from the ideal situation. Would much rather have traded for and resigned a guy like Robidas for that role. Oh well. Money well spent to placate ficle Ottawa fans (a healthy number of which aren’t pragmatic and may have been upset if he left).
    On Hemsky. He’s a solid talent who drives possession. Cost isn’t high and there is plenty of potential to re-sign the guy if he fits in. I think it’s exactly the right deal for a team in Ottawa’s precarious position. We improve the team without hurting ourselves much in the long-run.
    On the Eklund rumour about Spezza. If they’re offering ROR pack Spezza’s bags and send him out now as long as ROR wants to stay and re-sign long-term with OTT. I couldn’t be happier if we got him for Spezza. That’s the ideal move for this franchise if we can get it. Younger and faster.

    • Jacques

      I agree on O’Reilly would really set up our franchise!

  • esk

    retaining 50% of his salary..wow great deal lol

  • MacK

    At least if we go out and get Lee Stempniak he won’t take us out tonight! lol Pick up Cammi while we’re at it! :P

    • Jacques

      Haha , proactive thinking I like your style!

  • MacK

    Has Hemsky being forced into a playmaker role in the past because he didn’t have anyone to feed him the puck like Spezza can? Or am I reaching here?

  • FistsofNeil25

    All I can say is Hemsky better show up tonight the same way he did last night if this trade is going to help the Sens!

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    Put ryan with spezza and hemsky and ryan is a 50 goal scorer

    • Cicero

      Ryan and Hemsky are both rightie RWs though.

      • Sens613

        Ryan has played lw(Ana)

        • Cicero

          Then we might see 6-19-83, at least during one of PM juggle moods:)

    • Doc

      Nah, you’ll have a guy on his off-wing. My guess is Michalek-Spezza-Hemsky, and MacA-Turris-Ryan as ‘second line’.

      Third should still pack a punch with Hoffman-Zibby-Condra.

  • Cicero

    Pronounced: ah-LESH. (Not a-LESS nor Alice.)

    • FBP

      Thanks Kikero. :)

      • Sensturion

        I laughed more than I should’ve at this…

      • Cicero

        You’re welcome, Phuhbuhp.

  • Millennium

    Mac Turris Ryan looked good together again last night, they should be reunited. Stick Hemsky with Spezza and Michalek, then Zibby with Hoffman and…(insert plug here)

    • FistsofNeil25

      Agreed. Condra looks like the guy to skate with Hoffman-ZBad

      • Millennium

        Well considering Kassian is gonna have to dress and play with Neil and Smith, you could move Greening up and let Condra carry defensive responsibility for Kassian and Neil.

        Actually I fail at counting, I dont think Kassian is dressing.

        • FistsofNeil25

          If Hemsky is playing there’s no need for Kassian.

          9-19-83
          16-7-6
          68-93-22
          14-15-25

          • Millennium

            lol yeah realized that after I posted

          • Tooks

            MM9 is not a top 3 player, he’s more 3rd line now.

            16-19-83
            68-7-6
            9-93-22
            14-15-25

            Much better :)

    • Tooks

      Mac Spezza Hemsky
      Hoffman Turris Ryan
      Michalek Zbad Condra
      Greening Smith Neil

      Methot Karlsson
      Phillips Ceci
      PW46 Gryba

  • xN1Cx

    Did Hemsky play on the same line as Michalek during the Olympics?

    • Jordan

      Yup

    • Doc

      Yep, should be a fun line to watch with Spezza.

      • SuperSENS

        I hereby name it the ‘injury’ line :)

        • Doc

          Come on now, be positive.

          • Alex

            yeah something more positive like “The greedy doctor’s wet dream” line

          • Doc

            That’s the spirit.

          • SuperSENS

            I meant it as a double entendre. They might inflict injury to the opposing team on the scoreboard, or one of them will get hurt due to their injury proneness. Hopefully it’s the former and not the latter. :)

          • Doc

            I see! ;)

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    930 pm come soon Hemsky is playing!

  • Alex

    tm trading a prospect OUT of Buffalo, I know 1 thing if Tim called me up selling one of his prospects I would hang up at hello

  • FistsofNeil25

    So Chirp, any idea if the Sens are done? Does the Hemsky acquisition conclude the pursuit for Stewart? What about Prince?

  • sens88

    Just looked at capgeek. Oh god we have to start paying Colin Greening $2.65 mil next year. Why???

    Happy about Hemsky though. I feel he’s been used poorly in Edmonton playing on the third line with scrubs. Hopefully he’ll get a good shot at playing with Spez and won’t be juggled around by PMac constantly.

    • Mark

      Yeah, I wish we could dump Greening. Again what was Murray thinking.?!

      • Tooks

        I know right, how fucked up is that…Murray had intoxicated blood for that signing…

        • sens88

          Making more money then Condra, Smith and Neil and isn’t nearly as useful as a “role player”. I guess they were hoping he would repeat his stellar 37 point season??? Weird. Oh well.

  • Millennium

    OPTIMISM TIME: HEMSKY AND SPEZZA HAVE INSTANT CHEMISTRY, HEMSKY RE-SIGNS AT SAME MONEY, WE FINALLY HAVE 2 REAL SCORING LINES.

    • Doc

      There ya go. But seriously, Hemsky might actually re-sign, and he won’t cost a lot because he doesn’t have that much leverage.

      It’s a move that didn’t cost us any prospect and has the potential to pay-off.

      • Millennium

        Considering we’re only paying him 50%, its sorta like a 20 game try out and early negotiating rights :p

        • Doc

          Pretty much, they were saying we are basically paying less than 10% of his salary (year).

  • Cicero

    Anyone else wonder if Hemsky is being shuffled to Buffalo as part of a package?

    • SensChirp

      Nah.

    • Doc

      Doubt it. Hemsky has been a target for the Sens for the past few seasons.

      He’s actually a really good possession player, so he should fit in nicely in our system. He might be injury prone, but he does have wicked talent.

      • SuperSENS

        Can he make me a nice basket with his ‘wicker’ talent? Sorry, I couldn’t help myself on that one. <3

        • Doc

          Already corrected smartass lol.

          • SuperSENS

            It made me lol :)

        • JRMcPeeWee

          Haha Nice one. I think it is a good deal with low risk.

        • Doc

          He does have the hands for it though!

          • SuperSENS

            Touché! I like your thinking, Doc.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Definitely not.

    • MacK

      Why would the Sabres want Hemsky in the state they are in?

      • Cicero

        New York likes Czechs, no?

    • Ghost of Moose Vasko

      Buffalo is not looking for a soon to be UFA

    • Finn 8

      Why, would we do this

    • WaitingSince92

      Nothing whatsoever suggests this possibility, so no. Doesn’t make sense for anyone involved.

  • Colin

    Wondering if TM got schooled by BM.
    TM aquires Stewart knowing that Uncle Bryan has coveted him. Asks for large return and will not back down.
    BM talks to MacT and gets Hemsky.

    • my2sens

      That would be nice.

  • Millennium

    Any word on if Cowen is still a scratch tonight?

  • aegiszx

    lol Dubnyk now to the Habs… his career is basically done now… unless he pulls a craig anderson down the road…

    • Doc

      Insurance because Price’s injury is longer term than expected.

    • SuperSENS

      Poor guy. Already on team #3 this season alone.

  • sben

    It is always fun to know that a new player is on the sens.

  • sben

    dubnyk to montreal.

    • Sensturion

      Price must be out for a bit longer then

  • WaitingSince92

    Hemsky won’t solve our problems, but for a fifth and a third, who gives a shit. Was hoping Milan and Phillips would get traded for prospects…

  • sben

    I feel bad looking tat this pic of conacher walking down sens hall.

    pic.twitter.com/tBFoMKAkea

    • ZibbyFan

      can U post the photo? Servers here block twitter…

      • sben

        here you go.

        • ZibbyFan

          Am I blind? Is there a link somewhere?

          • SuperSENS

            Yes and Yes.

    • Zelle

      I miss Conacher already. I hope he has a good run in Buffalo.

  • Senators Pundit

    Cool, we got Hemsky, I really couldn’t care less.

    We have one MAJOR flaw on this team and it’s defence. BM what are we gonna do about the D?!?!

    I don’t want to wait 4 years for our blue-line babies to mature into real Dmen.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Just realized I am going to see Hemsky live at home for the first time against Nashville. Cant wait

    • SuperSENS

      Same!

  • Dirk-Diggler

    I am not a fan of the Phillips signing…

    • sben

      agree. too much money

      • Doc

        2.5 for your lifer veteran D? really?

        Cowen has a cap hit of 3.1. Think about that for a second.

        It’s a good signing people.

        • Aaron 2.0

          Well, we’re a team that’s asking EDM to retain salary for Hemsky. So, every dollar counts! Cowen’s cap hit for his current level of play is bad. I’m happy for Phillips. But, i’m concerned about what this means for our blue-line plans, especially in the 2nd year. At that term, he will still be a regular in the line-up.

          • Doc

            The salary is average by league standards for a 5-6 D. He knows the system, has and will be a mentor for the younger guys. Worst case is he gets traded next season and with that contract, it won’t be a difficult thing to do.

            All in all it’s not a bad contract.

          • Aaron 2.0

            Yeah, I think we agree more than it probably looks. It’s a good salary for a 5-6 guy. He’ll be a regular for 2 more years in Ottawa. I think a lot of people (me included) want to see him playing more of a mentoring role (6-7) if he’s staying around. This contract pretty much guarantees a full-time spot in the lineup for 2 years.

          • Doc

            I think we are already seeing that. He’s playing 5-6 with Ceci, and they have looked good together for the most part.

          • Aaron 2.0

            Yeah, they’ve been okay. Good days (e.g. Vancouver) and bad (e.g. Edmonton). When he has a bad day, it’ usually obvious that he’s getting older.

          • Sensnation

            Bad because he got beat on the outside by a speedster? I’m not sure if you saw the Hemsky highlight package running today on tv, but there were a lot of those on a lot of teams. It’s a standard skill vs force move. It sucks, but it’s a normal part of hockey.

          • Doc

            After that play, I actually said to myself that we should have picked him up last summer. I was also shaking my fist at the TV while doing so.

          • Aaron 2.0

            That was the obvious play where he got beat on the outside, but I thought that pairing struggled all night (they were hemmed in a lot). Maybe we saw the game differently though. The one thing I’ll say about Phillips, is without him (and a sufficient replacement), the PK would probably be in big, big trouble.

          • FistsofNeil25

            Yeah I’m happy to have Phillips back for another year, especially if the alternative was to trade him for something along the lines of a 4th round pick (like Robidas). I just really really don’t like that second year at all.

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Cowen isn’t good either

          • Sensnation

            But he will be ;)

          • ZibbyFan

            Not now, but he will be a beast as he gains experience.

      • Dirk-Diggler

        I hope it doesn’t spell the end of a promising prospect in the system

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        Hate the Philips signing… If you wanted to show respect to a vet it should have been alfie

        • Colin

          Different situation. At least Phillips negotiated with the Senators. Alfie was looking for a way out. Murray didn’t even have the chance to show Alfie respect.

          • sben

            exactly. ALfie said himself that a week before the draft he was feeling that he really wwanted a cup. It was just a way to get out of ottawa.

        • ZibbyFan

          Unfortunately, our lesson was learned with Alfie. We couldn’t have afforded to lose Phillips. It’s hard to put a price on what this guy brings to the dressing room.

      • Ghost of Moose Vasko

        He’ll make less than Greening next year

        • sben

          I also think greening was overpaid.

      • Chris Maxim

        It’s that kind of attitude towards veteran players that cost us Alfie.

  • sprucesens

    i posture, greening, pick for cammy?

  • Jordan

    What would you guys think about mezaros comin back to ottawa?

    • Sicilian

      no thanks

    • Doc

      lol…

    • FistsofNeil25

      yuck

      • Jordan

        Lol i know. I just want ottawa to pick up a defenceman somehow. Its our biggest weak point.

        • FistsofNeil25

          Agreed but I want them to pick up a good defenseman

    • Sensnation

      Thought the same thing. He could help our top 4, but he’s barely an upgrade at a much higher price. Probably best to at least go with a new name.

  • Tooks

    Ok which # do you think Hemsky takes?!?! Does he stick with 83? Or does he leave that in EDM…
    I’m gonna guess he changes and goes with 18.

    • Sicilian

      Was 18 what he wore with the Olympic team? Then I say 18

      • Tooks

        No he wore 17 for 2 years.

    • Doc

      Doubt it. He had number 83 even with the Hull Olympiques.

      • Tooks

        Wrong, he wore 17 for Hull, he chose 83 for EDM cuz its his birth year.

        • Doc

          You’re right, I just verified. I still think he’ll keep number 83 since it’s the number he used even internationally.

      • Tooks

        Lets go with 83 -17 = 66!! LOL!!

    • FistsofNeil25

      I like 83. If he went with 18 he would have big shoes to fill of former #18′s in Ottawa… You know, Jessie Winchester..

      • sbs138

        JOB!!!

  • my2sens

    Now what?

    • Doc

      The waiting game continues.

      But honestly I think the Sens are done. They re-signed Phillips and got their top-6 Forward.

      • CSI: Barbados

        I really think we need a defenseman. Move out some of our prospects to get a solid serviceable defenseman.

        • Doc

          Oh for sure, but it would be in a trade for an ‘upgrade’ on D, so a few bodies would need to go back. Our log jam on D will only get worse next season.

  • Sensturion

    So far, this deadline day has been sort of anti-climactic. How bored are the TSN guys?

  • Sensnation

    Great to see Phillips saga ended for a while. I guess some fans will be sad to still have their whipping boy, but for some of the older crowd he’s been a fixture for this organization that we are more than happy to keep around as a 6/7 vet until retirement.

    Hemsky definitely sold Murray during last nights game. I’m happy the price came down to a level everyone can live with. Whether he works or not, a 3rd + 5th is a really good price for his abilities. Let’s just hope he stays healthy!

    I guess the GM is saying we’re going for the playoffs! If we make or not, at least he’s willing to try. GO SENS GO!!!

    • ZibbyFan

      Well said.

    • Aaron 2.0

      2.5 million. Not 6-7. He’ll be 5-6. I think that’s what is dividing opinion here mostly.

      • Sensnation

        Still bottom pairing, and the 6/7 would be in the last year of the contract. The issue remains our top 4 forcing him to play too much, as a 5-6-7 he’s still very valuable, especially if we are making the playoffs next year and beyond.

        • Aaron 2.0

          Absolutely agree about the top 4. If that were more solid, and we’d be relying on CP only as 5-6-7, I’d be less concerned. I have to disagree that he’s likley to move into 6-7 in two years time. Ottawa cannot affort to pay a player 2.5 million to play half of the games. Not a big deal for a lot of teams, but unfortunately, finances matter here.

          • Sensnation

            We will worry about our new budget in 2 years and see then. By that time his salary will likely be under league average and our budget should easily be 5-10mil more if, not higher.

    • Doc

      Agreed.

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    Spezza michalek and hemsky
    The LTIR line

    • Gordon of Riverworld

      Somewhere – Pascal LeClaire is smiling

      • Doc

        Probably has a headache too…

        • sben

          He says
          “Ah this is really exciting stuff. I need some fresh air after all these events.”
          Then he steps outside and a puck hits him in the head.

          • Doc

            My guess is that now he always has his goalie gear on… just in case.

  • sell the team Eugene

    Edmonton still paying half of Hemsky’s salary.

    Conacher’s covers most of the rest.

    Does this make Ottawa “BUYERS” ?

    • Sensnation

      That’s amazing that Edmonton is keeping salary! MacT finally coming down to earth with some prices, maybe his learning curve is starting to catch up.

  • Jordan

    Erhoff please BM

    • Tooks

      Yep somehow I think Murray is working the phones with Tim about this. I cant see Prince staying a Senator and Ehrhoff wants out.

  • sprucesens

    hockeybuzz saying spezza likely to be dealt at draft

    • Sensnation

      So that means he’ll stay forever!?!

      • sprucesens

        probably, and sign 8 years with full NTC

    • sben

      hockeybuzz= complete guesses and garbage. Leave the trash in the trashcan.

    • Jordan

      When has eklund ever been right?? Lol cant believe people buy into his bs.

    • sprucesens

      haha, now posting that anaheim is calling about spezz

    • Pugnacious Serf

      Hockeybuzz has said Spezza is to be trade every year since Heatley was traded,

  • Millennium

    Considering the price for Hemsky, I’m guessing the price for MM9 is a 6th or something. So I’m guessing near zero chance he moves.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Gabby to LA is official

    • Tooks

      LA counters the Blues, now only Anaheim left to get Vanek and just give the Cup to the West!!

      • FistsofNeil25

        I still think Chicago is the team to beat.

        • sprucesens

          i think my vote is on st. louis, if they get out of the first round

  • Doc

    Good pickup by Bonksmullet lol:

    Bonk’s Mullet ‏@BonksMullet 48 mins

    Reminder that the asking price for Hemsky two years ago was a 1st rounder and a prospect. #HereComeTheOilers

  • Pugnacious Serf

    Plan the parade… Hemsky never scored more then 20 goals more then twice. He’s been to the playoffs twice in a ten year career, both times in his first two seasons. He’s been part of a culture of losing so how does he help Ottawa? Great diversion by the management team. And to sign Phillips whom at best has another year in the tank to a two year deal what a joke.

    • Doc

      Someone needs a hug.

    • Sensnation

      So when they make the playoffs, you’ll refuse to watch out of principle, right?

      • Pugnacious Serf

        This team has to play near 75% hockey over the next 20 games to get to over 40 wins and the schedule isn’t super soft although 13 of 20 are at home. Columbus, Detroit and Washington all peaking. With the soft leadership on this team I think I’m safe.

  • esk

    so if we dont make the playoffs by 2 points…hows hemsky going to feel? cost us 2 pts last night lol

  • senate19

    I’m just waiting for the tweet “Anaheim is believed to have just made a significant offer to Ottawa for C Jason Spezza, believed to be 1st Rnd Pick (Ottawa), 2nd Rnd pick (Anaheim), Jakob Silfverberg, top end prospect).

    Do you pull the trigger after getting Hemsky?

    • sprucesens

      depends on top end prospect, but i would

    • FistsofNeil25

      Not for that package

    • Jordan

      Spezza aint goin anywhere. Thats the reason they picked up hemsky.

    • Doc

      Depends on the prospect.

      If there is any deal to be made, it will be during the off-season.

  • Gordon of Riverworld

    sooo – Corvo cleared waivers ?

  • Sens613

    Can Murray package something to get vanek?

    Michalek, prince, boro for vanek(isles retain 40%)

    • Finn 8

      Please No!!!

    • Sens613

      Price should come down in an hour. We get a legitimate goal scorer on the left to play with spezza the dangler and playmaker(instead of to fancy mr. giveaway spezza)

  • Dirk-Diggler

    Please send Michalek away and get Stone up with the big team…

    Stone-Spezza-Hemsky

    • Doc

      Stone is RW.

    • FAB

      Michalek and Hemsky were Olympic linemates

      • Doc

        Yep, and they played good.

        • FAB

          Indeed – considering the nonsense that was going on with their team

          • Doc

            No kidding lol.

  • FAB

    Quick note regarding the quality of draft picks. Since 2000, about 150
    3rd rounders have played at least one NHL game. That’s about 11 per
    year, so you’ve got about a 33% chance of drafting a player in the 3rd
    round that will play at least one game. Impact players from the 3rd
    round seem to happen around 1 or 2 times per year on average, and that’s
    only if you define guys like Clutterbuck as ‘impactful’…so that’s
    around a 3% to 5% chance of that guy being as good as Hemsky…I’ll take
    those odds.

    Not sure why our old buddy Don Brennan thought this might be ‘overpayment’. Yeesh.

  • Phil.

    Nothing to contribute, just padding Chirp’s comments stats.

  • FistsofNeil25

    T-Murray is really making his fanbase sweat this one out eh

    • Sicilian

      I think he’s probably asking for too much. I was surprised he gave up 2 2nd round picks earlier though…

  • Loyd

    “I guess the GM is saying we’re going for the playoffs!”

    No Melnyk did, I went over that this morning.

    Sens not done.

    • Doc

      I had bacon this morning.

      Twas delicious.

  • senate19

    Normally we get a “Bryan Murray has just told us he’s done” comment from Garrioch or something. Not yet?

    • FBP

      Bruce Garrioch ‏@SunGarrioch 54m
      Barring an offer they can’t refuse I’m not sure the Senators will make any other moves today. #Sens

      • senate19

        hm, ha. I guess that’s it. Doesn’t seem too finite, but probably true enough

      • SensChirp

        When did he tweet this? Not seeing it

        • CohMa

          13:29

  • my2sens

    Moulson possibility to Min….

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    I still think we need a defenseman in order to be to be a little more comfortable for a playoff push

    • CrazyFish

      I think we need a miracle more than a Dman.

  • SensChirp

    Y’all broke the site again! Seems to be back now

    • LeafsSux

      I tried my damnedest!

  • FistsofNeil25

    Tim Thomas to Dallas. What for?

    • Sensnation

      They need a backup for the playoffs. With Vancouver mailing it in, they have a great shot at clinching. Lehtonen still has an injury history too. If the cost is decent, could be a huge move for them. Their young goalies aren’t quite NHL ready yet.

      • FistsofNeil25

        True. I guess Thomas is still an upgrade over Dan Ellis.

  • my2sens

    Tim Thomas to Dallas?

  • my2sens

    Here we go!!! Final 30 mins!!

  • Alex

    BM isn’t done he’s always held a press conference when he was done even before the deadline in years past BM must still be on the phone

  • FBP

    I wish Toronto would make a terrible move to cheer me up.

    • my2sens

      They have Phaneuf?

    • Alex

      just think Randy Carlysle or Dave Nonis
      Always gives me a case of the Giggles

  • my2sens

    Going to get a drink. BM. Make. It. Happen.

  • Sensnation

    Big names are all still out there! Gonna be a frantic last little bit. Surely going to have a few big trades roll in after the deadline. Tim and Garth are definitely waiting until the last minute!

    • my2sens

      Tim just got off the phone with LA – time to call Uncle B!

      • Sensnation

        Stil can’t believe we didn’t have to give up a dman to Edmonton!

  • sprucesens

    moulson to minny done

    • my2sens

      Haven’t heard anything?

      • sprucesens

        Buffalo gets a second in 2014, 3rd in 2016….two other 3rd/4th liners changing hands

  • SensChirp

    Servers are strrrrugling today. Yeesh

    • my2sens

      So is Bryan! HAHA!

  • FistsofNeil25

    You would think Vanek, Moulson and Cammalleri have to go in the next 10 minutes…

    • LeafsSux

      Moulson is gone.

      • FistsofNeil25

        Where has that been confirmed?

        • sprucesens

          you don’t want to know the source

          • LeafsSux

            gds?

          • sprucesens

            haha, no

          • Colin

            Travis Yoyost’s boss…

          • laffin681021

            The good reliable world of “hockeybuzz”… *chuckles*

          • sprucesens

            well, i’ve never seen an (e5 DONE) be wrong before. especially when Bmac said that was the most likely destination

          • Sensnation

            I’ve only seen those after the trade was announced somewhere else.

          • sprucesens

            yeah, dunno, its been up for like 15 minutes now…

          • SuperSENS

            LOL! It’s like saying that you’re never wrong about the winner of the Stanley Cup after it’s been awarded. :P

          • FistsofNeil25

            yes, yes I do. it’s not on twitter and TSN hasn’t confirmed it.

          • sprucesens

            hockeybuzz. and they just posted boston got meszaros for a 3rd

          • FistsofNeil25

            ya I saw the Mesz deal on twitter.

  • Pugnacious Serf

    Trades will go well past the deadline….

    • Doc

      “Deadline” is the key word here.

      • Aaron 2.0

        It happens every year though. Trades reported after the deadline. It’s just a paperwork issues from what I understand.

        • Doc

          Yep, they still need to be accepted before 3.

          You know, like a deadline of sorts. :D

          Stupid paper work…

          • PraiseAlfie11

            The papers need to be sent into the nhl by 3pm.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Sens have loaned Joe Corvo to the Chicago Wolves..

    • FBP

      Weird.

    • my2sens

      Loaned!? That’s like getting a rusty AMC Pacer!!

    • sprucesens

      weird, maybe bringing up claesson or boro as the 7th?

      • Alex

        Boro’s injured

        • sprucesens

          hmmm

      • Sensnation

        Karlsson, Methot, Cowen, Wiercioch, Gryba, Ceci, Phillips is 7 no?

        • sprucesens

          good point. used to carrying way too many D

      • FAB

        Claesson is suspended

        • Alex

          Claesson was suspended for 1 game and has served it

    • Cicero

      Are these real wolves? With gnashing teeth??

  • LeafsSux

    10 mins left!!

    • Alex

      actually 5…

      • Alex

        ;)

    • sprucesens

      1.20 left…

  • Millennium

    Hey if no one jumps on Vanek and the price plummets in the next 60 seconds, maybe Ottawa jumps in!

  • Sensnation

    So nice to have the site back Chirp, been lost without you!

  • Cicero

    I have a bag of pucks. My phone is open for the next minute. CALL PLS.

    • Cicero

      Damn web host…I missed the deadline Chirp!

  • SensChirp

    Conacher for nothing
    Corvo loaned to another organization’s AHL team
    EDM asked to pick up half of Hemsky’s salary

    Was this….money in/money out again?

    • FBP

      Yes. Our owner is almost frustrating enough for me to write a ChirpEd about it.

    • Sensnation

      Absolutely agree it was. Oddly feel we improved even if only for the rest of this season.

    • Millennium

      Depressing constraint

    • FAB

      Yes – I’m assuming that the Chicago Wolves are paying for most of Corvo’s salary

    • Doc

      So much for opening up that wallet, huh Uncle Euge?

      “We are definitely NOT sellers.”

    • sprucesens

      yeah, if thats all we did, why the hell didn’t we do that months ago, and potentially get a bit more use for hemksy….

      • PraiseAlfie11

        Paying less…

        • sprucesens

          and potentially costing us playoffs. not that we would win, but thats the point of getting him now too, no? either way, fairly uneventful. can’t wait to watch bobby ryan walk next year because he is playing 4th line minutes while guys like greening and condra are getting more time….

    • runningbear1974

      Disappointing day… Great… Cowen won is contract dispute… and now Phillips won his too… Great, next couple of years will be tough ones…

      • Doc

        Next year’s cap floor says Hi!

        • runningbear1974

          Making the playoffs next year will be really tough… Signing Ryan will be tough… Finding wingers for Spezza will be tough… Getting Karlsson to play reasonable will be tough… Getting Phillips to stop pointing will be tough…
          I miss last year’s team so much… I can barely cheer for this team… Unfortunately they don’t play a game that I enjoy watching… I can’t look at other team’s fans in the eyes… They just laugh at us… Last year when they laughed at us I was ok with it… But, now… Go Spezza, show the world your skill level, impress everyone with your beautiful skill…

          • Colin

            Sorry for the attack, but what a load of shit!

            There are 6 other teams in Canada. Pick one of them that suits your fandom and start rooting.

          • runningbear1974

            That’s fine… I understand… Most people love Spezza and Phillips… Great… We’ll find out in the next couple of years…

          • Colin

            Ok fine.

            But “I can barely cheer for this team… Unfortunately they don’t play a game that I enjoy watching…I can’t look at other team’s fans in the eyes… They just laugh at us… Last year when they laughed at us I was ok with it… But, now…”

            That’s some major Academy Award stuff!

          • runningbear1974

            It’s true… They make fun of Spezza and Karlsson all the time… And my only argument to them is “Look at all their skill”… Just look at it… They just laugh… Enjoy your skill…
            I like Zibanejad, Turris, MacArthur, Ryan… I like a lot of the guys on the team… Smith, Neil… Those guys are great and fun to watch… I’m embarrassed by Spezza and Karlsson…
            Too bad for me that there wasn’t more fans that agreed with me… So seems management also doesn’t agree with me… Great…
            I work with Toronto, Boston, and Montreal fans… They have a lot more to cheer for then we do right now… But, last year, we had tons to cheer for… This year, with an improved team because of Spezza and Karlsson, we’re much worse of a team… Terrible to watch… Blame the coach or blame Spezza and Karlsson…

          • Doc

            True. I think our cap issues might help in this case.
            If Murray’s comment from this past year are any indication, they should be loosening up on bit on their budget to try and “contend”.

          • runningbear1974

            The problem in my mind is they guys we are paying the money to… Those are the guys I have a hard time cheering for… I don’t like Michalek’s play… But, I love his hustle, and I love his attitude…
            Anyway, I need to find a secondary team to cheer for, so that I loosen up my expectations on this team…
            In my mind, there’s no way we are a contender in the next 2 years, and I think as a result we’ll lose Bobby Ryan… Who knows, maybe Spezza and Phillips will turn this ship around…

    • Phil.

      I get you dislike Eugene, but to summarize the day as a money issue is odd to me.
      Corvo wasn’t playing. Conacher wasn’t going to be resigned.
      The Sens are an improved team, albeit marginally, for the rest of the season. Murray made the money work, good on him.

      • FBP

        He didn’t mention the Euge.

      • SensChirp

        Murray is a wizard. Not doubting him at all. But it just looks like moves were made to fit within budget despite the organization trumpeting otherwise the last month. We were duped again.

        • Doc

          I think the games since the Olympics changed that direction drastically.

          Last night was the nail in the coffin.

          • sprucesens

            bs on that. i bet nothing changed. if our direction changed, we would have sold players, not added hemsky, as had been the idea for years now.

          • SuperSENS

            Which players would we have sold and to whom? In case you haven’t noticed, most of the players I think fans would like traded away would have no buyers whatsoever. Considering how we had to give away Conacher for free and send Corvo to an AHL team, I’m not too sure how you expected him to do much else.

          • sprucesens

            phillips, michalek, greening and condra. the first 2 might get you middle level prospects. the 2nd 2 won’t get you much. its mostly to give room for guys like hoffman, puempel, stone, sdc so we know what we have next year, rather than spending another year being mad that maclean is playing condra and greening more than bobby ryan….

          • SuperSENS

            Who’s going to take Michalek? Or Greening? Or Condra? I just don’t see the market being there for them, otherwise they would have already been shipped out. I could see Phillips going to Boston, but given the choices of defensemen supposedly available today, Boston would have better options.

          • sprucesens

            i’m sure michalek could have gone to phx, Nash, and teams that need some offense, who would be willing to give up a 2nd or 3rd round pick. greening to oilers for a 3rd or lower. 4th or 5th? who cares. Its to free up a spot. Now we get to deal with another year, likely, of at least greening and condra getting more ice time than the turris line or ryan

          • SuperSENS

            Why would Phoenix/Nashville/etc. take on an injury prone winger, whose offensive stats having taken a nosedive off a cliff for the past 2 seasons, for only a couple of weeks? You’re overestimating Michalek’s value greatly. As for Greening, he really would add nothing to the Oilers, as they already have a ton of deadweight that isn’t helping them whatsoever.

          • Doc

            Nope. I think they just didn’t try and catch a “bigger fish” and just settled on plan B.

        • SuperSENS

          Why spend money now if your chances of making the playoffs are almost nonexistent? It doesn’t make much sense.

          • SensChirp

            Agreed. Issue is with Melnyk saying otherwise.

          • SuperSENS

            Well, I could be recalling this incorrectly, but the key phrase everyone seemed to use was ‘if it made sense’, and in the context of our present playoff hopes, it doesn’t make much sense. I’d expect ‘bigger’ moves in the offseason.

        • Phil.

          I suspect you and most people didn’t actually believe Euge would spend that much more so “duped”, I suspect, is hyperbole (plus it had all the caveats of “right player”/”right deal”, etc.).
          the salary loss has not real impact, it’s just good management (cheap owner or not).

    • FistsofNeil25

      Sure looks like it. Kind of sad.

  • sprucesens

    nothing new… just waiting for last minute deals. they still haven’t announced meszaros or moulson on tsn…

    • Sens613

      Mess to bos

      • sprucesens

        yeah, they got that now..

  • my2sens

    Cameron Diaz went to Vancouver… Hmm?!? Guess nothing too interesting gonna pop up

  • LeafsSux

    What a waste of a day…. Was hoping for so much more especially after last nights debacle..

  • Sensnation

    Did Tim sit on too many assets too long? There’s no way he moved them all at the last minute is there?

    • esk

      i think so..he got greedy!

      • Sensnation

        Rookie mistake if that’s the case. But damn, so many assets still!

  • Cicero

    I wonder…could there be late-breaking news about a Sens trade? The money in the announced deals leads me to think they might have splurged for something big that is still waiting for the ink to dry on.

    • LeafsSux

      I’ve given up all hope..

    • sprucesens

      not likely. money in, money out. nothing new here….

    • FAB

      Melnyk has still not said “I have money and will spend it to improve my hockey team”

      • Cicero

        Maybe he would be willing to start small…like improving the life of a fan? I could use a small grant…five figures to start.

    • MikeS

      I would agree but woldnt be surprised if its just melnyk being cheap

    • FBP

      Seems like the chatter earlier this year about adding salary if it made sense was just talk during season ticket renewal time.

      • SuperSENS

        The key phrase is “if it made sense”. Does it make sense to add a lot of salary if your hopes of making the playoffs are next to slim? While I would like to be optimistic about our chances, realistically I don’t see it happening based upon the way the team has played all season long.

    • CohMa

      It is odd that Murray hasn’t given his regular “I’m done” news conference yet though

  • NickofTime

    Hemsky is definitely an upgrade on Conacher, I have wanted him traded since training camp. Re-signing Phillips is a sentimental move considering what happened with Alfredsson. Most disappointing was not making a deal for Stewart who would have added some size & toughness to the top 6. Hopefully the next move is to replace Condra with Stone.

  • Cicero

    I bet we got Vanek.

  • Millennium

    Joy Lindsay ‏@PuckJoy 2m
    #Sens loan Cody Ceci, Mike Hoffman to #BSens — paper moves making them eligible to return to #AHL this season/for playoffs.

    • Sensnation

      Wouldn’t Stone have to do the same thing?

      • Millennium

        Isn’t he already down there?

    • esk

      wtf is going on

      • Millennium

        paper moves, not sent down

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      If this is true and we don’t have something massive in the next hour this day is even worse

      • Millennium

        It just allows them to go back down for the AHL playoffs if needed. Nothing actually changes.

        • Sensnation

          Don’t inform him, he prefers to feel each move is the worst ever and you can’t do that when you know all the facts.

          • SuperSENS

            Truth.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            And this makes no sense… I’ve supported a tonne of moves… Hell the day Ryan was traded I bought his Jersey.

            I just don’t blindly assume everything is roses like half the clowns in here

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Fair enough

  • MikeS

    Now for the hour where all the trades generally get reported LOL

  • Miguel

    Cannot begin to say how disappointed i am that we are stuck with Phillips for another 2 years. And the worst thing about this statement, is that I said the very same thing two years ago, but now it is worse.
    Today has really only proved that this Sens regime is making absolutely no sense at all.
    We have less chance at making the playoffs this year than we did when he had the huge selloff when we got rid of Fisher et al.
    If you had to rank our D including our prospects, Phillips would come in at around 8/9th on our depth chart with Claessen and Boro also better D’s than CP4 at this time.
    We now add another piece of ??? to a team that most likely willl not make the playoffs.
    We give away the main piece Conacher, that we got for a top end tender.
    We lose Hemsky and MM9 this summer for nothing,
    We have no first round pick andAnahiem picks in the top10 from the Ryan trade
    And how does this make us a better team????
    I do hope BM has some answers for us, cause this is all extremely confusing, and sets up back as an organization.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Could not agree more…. Disgusted

    • Sensnation

      Really? Patience, next year will be better, just enjoy what’s left of this season! Such doom and gloom is way too early in our rebuild!

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        Next year will be better??? Didn’t people say that last year… M

        • Sensnation

          NO! Last year was awesome for year 2 of a rebuild? How negative are you guys?

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Last year was awesome… And EVERYONE. Said that this year would be better…. Needless to say

          • Sensnation

            Everyone? NO man. I’ve been saying all year, shame on you for buying the media hype.

          • sprucesens

            karlsson, spezza, michalek, anderson all coming back, i would hope our team should have been better. if not, why do we have superstars on our team when no name plugs play better? there is absolutely 0 argument to say that our team shouldn’t have been better. stanley cup champs? no, but better, yes.

          • Sensnation

            It was mentioned earlier today, but the young guys in last year’s team had mainly been playing together in the AHL during the lockout. Decent advantage in a shortened season.

            No denying we should be better this year, just wasn’t expecting the level most were, especially with the change in conferences and playoff rules. “Growth Season” should have been the mantra!

    • FAB

      It’s all about money

      Eugene Melnyk = Bruce Firestone 2.0

      • SuperSENS

        Oy.

      • runningbear1974

        It’s not about the money… It’s about the players we have on the team…

    • laffin681021

      Phillips is a nice veteran presence.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        Philips is a waste of space on this team

        • laffin681021

          Arguably, but ongoing with the Veteran presence…we need some. Alfie leaving has put us in a sink hole and we’re fighting our way out, let’s not fall any farther. Don’t mind Phillips sticking around as a 6/7 D.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            A 2.5 7th d….. Yikes

        • runningbear1974

          Phillips is taking ice time from the younger guys that need the development…

      • Miguel

        that is like in the beer league scouting, when the answer is
        “he’s a really nice guy”
        to the question “can he play hockey?”
        I will take a rookie who can skate over CP4 any day

        • Sensnation

          Take him, you two can sit in the stands together while Phillips plays his top 6 role.

          • Miguel

            yup CP4 plays and we lose, simple math, and we all pay is 5 Mil

          • Sensnation

            Yup 0-82 season just like the Standings show … sorry he missed a few games so let’s say 7-75 right? That’s where we stand?

          • Miguel

            do you watch he games?
            he sucks the life out of every game bud…
            hey we both want whats best for the Sens, and CP4 is our worst dman… let him walk.. simple no need to resign him… he’s a nice guy… worst tag in hockey

          • Sensnation

            If you can get even 5 gms in the NHL to support your point of view there may be more to discuss, until then I’m not going to argue nonsense man. You cannot support your claim of him being the worst just cause you feel he is and love prospects that haven’t played in the NHL.

          • Miguel

            yup your right I have to go all the way back to last nights game and watch Hemsky literally walk past him for a goal, to be reminded of how much he sucks.
            agree to disagree

          • Sensnation

            You’ve never seen that move happen in the NHL before? I’ve been watching the NHL for over 25 years and I see that on a nightly if not weekly basis. Learn to accept mistakes, that’s what sports are about … but no, you’re right, if you get beat by a faster skater you are useless and don’t belong in the NHL. Boston wanted him just to sit him and show us we were wrong for playing him. haha, like come on man!

          • Miguel

            Really?
            was that Kane that danced around him? no maybe Crosby… no … Ovechkin?
            No it was a guy who has not scored in 2 months!
            and you asked me to prove to you 5 games, and all I had to do was go to last nights CP4 lowlights.
            If the Bruins wanted him they could of had him with a phone call!
            Sorry if we cant agree, but flat out he is awful.

          • Sensnation

            Is Hemsky not considered an offensive threat in your mind? He’s one of the fastest in the league and some would say he’s faster than Kane. I don’t know either way, but he’s definitely faster than Phillips or any d not named Karlsson on our team.

            The Bruins did phone. Where have you been? He wanted to stay here, Sens wanted him here, and the Bruins weren’t willing to pay high enough.

      • sbs138

        exactly. we need more vets, not less.

    • Doc

      Now you’re just being Silly. You’re putting prospects that haven’t played one NHL game over a guy that played more than 1000′s.

      Come on Miguel! Keep faith my friend.

      • Miguel

        Doc, seriously if you have watched as much as I have of Phillips the last two years he is no better than
        Komiserick
        Gill
        Sutton
        Comodore
        all of which have gone the way of the dodo bird.
        I have tried to be civil, but I am so sick and tired of watching CP4 give the opposition goals. He is past done, yet we sign him for two more painful years. INSANE

        • Sensnation

          Every d u just named is much worse than Phillips ever was!

          • Miguel

            sens coloured glasses…. maybe just a little?
            I am sure the fans of those teams could argue that.
            Sorry but when I take my Sens glasses off… CP4 is absolutely brutal!
            I have to change the channel everytime he steps on the ice… not kidding

          • Sensnation

            Well at the end of the day as you said they are all the way of the dodo, Phillips is still around and signed a contract he could have gotten with most teams in the league. So ya, Phillips is better.

          • Miguel

            really? I beg to differ… he is useless on this team

          • Sensnation

            Beg all you want Miguel, doesn’t change that your opinion is the opposite of what many NHL gms would say!

    • Aaron 2.0

      I think it’s fair to say that the direction set by BM is clear as mud, as evidenced by the conversations on this board. There are a lot of different opinions about what’s happened here today. I’ll certainly be looking for clarification on what the plan is moving forward.

      • Sensnation

        The plan is a rebuild, in which we are in year 3 and expect to start contending next year and the year after. The moves today were to give this year’s group the best chance to make a push this year without costing us parts for our future. It’s clear as day, not sure why people don’t understand!

        • Aaron 2.0

          We’re nowhere close to a playoff position right now, with a lot of other teams to pass, and the defense still ranks very low in this league (no where close to “contender” status). I don’t see a contender, and three years is up… Time for Murray to talk about his plan for the next few years, at the very least.

          • Sensnation

            Nowhere close? We’ve been fighting for one all year!

            Year 3 is up after this season, not now. Then the young players have a whole summer to bulk up and improve even further. Growth happens over time, not overnight. To expect a young team won’t improve just on their own in the next year is to ignore how sports work.

          • Aaron 2.0

            14.4% chance today. Not exactly great odds…

          • Sensnation

            Yes, and making the playoffs this year is your only measure of success? I’ve been saying it all year, I’m more concerned with the growth of our young guys and despite what upset fans are saying, there’s been a lot of growth that I think will be even more evident next season.

          • Aaron 2.0

            Okay, I guess we’re just talking past each other. I’ve been saying exactly the opposite. Set the franchise up for long-term success. I don’t care about this year. I don’t even care about the next few years. I just want to see a plan to get better. That’s all. In that spirit, if a player doesn’t fit long term, move him, even for a bag of pucks. Don’t worry about the playoffs this year at all! Forget Hemsky. Forget Phillips. Let the kids play. Do your best to address holes at the draft of via free agency.

          • Sensnation

            You need veterans to bring the young guys along. Phillips has been a huge help to Ceci, I don’t understand how more fans don’t see this, let alone with other dmen. The plan has been said for several years now, not sure what more you want them to tell you.

            BM believes, even during a rebuild, if his team has a shot for the playoffs, that he should add to try and help them as a reward, if it doesn’t affect the team too much long term. This is part of why we are considered a really good and classy organization.

            Anyways, hopefully you can find a way to hear the message he’s been saying for 3 years now.

          • Aaron 2.0

            In fairness, he said we’d be ready to contend in 3 years. That wasn’t realistic, and I didn’t really buy that. But, the current roster is probably closer to fighting for a spot next year than contending for a Cup. That’s fine. All I said to start this whole thing off was I was looking forward to hearing where BM sees us right now. Most teams in our conference are young and improving too!

          • Sensnation

            I’m just trying to relay his message since you feel it’s mud. So 3 years ends after this season, that was his goal for when he’d start contending. Not sure why you don’t understand this. Did you think that meant year 3 would be a cup? We’ll be there, patience is required and patience is clearly lacking in this fanbase.

          • SuperSENS

            Yeah, patience is key. I’m surprised Senators fans don’t have more patience considering the history of the franchise in the regular season and in the playoffs.

          • Sensnation

            I really feel there has developed 2 groups of sens fans. 1 that went through the first decade of the team and knows what real suffering is, and a 2nd younger group that is still learning a lot about the game and the business and is used to much better results with a decade of showing up to the playoffs.

          • SuperSENS

            I went through the first decade with the team. I can remember a time when fans were just happy if the team won that night’s game. :)

          • Sensnation

            Exactly! And if not, “We’ll get them next time!” Having NHL hockey in our city is such a blessing, but our fans are now feeling like they are owed so much instant gratification every game and season.

    • sbs138

      no way is Boro or Claessen better than CP4. that is laughable. HAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • esk

    vanek traded but to who???????????????

  • Millennium

    Hockey Central ‏@SNHockeyCentral 8s
    Trade: Vanek to Montreal, per @DougMaclean

    • esk

      fml. I jokingly said this to a habs fan 5 mins ago…now i have to tell him its true

    • Kohlmanator

      Hmm…

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      Damn Montreal just got better

  • Sens613

    Vanek to montreal

    • xN1Cx

      dammit
      He’s too tall for them

  • Nikola Todorić

    montreal got vanek

  • iSens

    Vanek to Habs

    • Sensnation

      CRAAAZY!!! Don’t get why they spent for him, doubt he stays.

  • Kohlmanator

    Bob McKenzie
    ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

    Legwand waived NTC to DET. Done.

  • xN1Cx

    Bright side – he will crack under the pressure that is the Habs

  • MikeS

    vaenk to montreal. WOW

  • laffin681021

    Still more to come with Buffalo

  • Cicero

    For PK?? LOLOL

  • esk

    CMON SENS

  • Sensnation

    Vanek cost sounds really low!

    • Colin

      What is the cost?

      • Doc

        a 2nd and a prospect.

      • Sens613

        2rd and pros. Good rental price. Garth was handcuffed though.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Moulson for only a draft pick and Tory mitchell?? Damn

  • iSens

    Wow. Good deal for Habs!

  • boom

    i really don’t get all the hatred for Melnyk.

    You guys have been complaining about him forever. In the last 9 months, they have traded for Bobby Ryan and Ales Hemsky – cry me a river!

    If you need to complain, complain about OVERpaying Greening, Cowen, and Phillips.

    • Sensnation

      Saving our franchise from bankruptcy and sure relocation only buys you a day or two, by day 3 you better have a stanley cup or you’re just a cheap selfish SOB! ;)

      • Millennium

        TIL 11 years is 3 days

        • Sensnation

          Do we not feel this organization has improved in that time? Did we not enjoy the run to the finals and in the playoffs for a really long stretch? We are finishing up a rebuild and about to get tons of new revenue, whether it’s spent or not on the team, this organization is wayyyy ahead of where it was!

          • Millennium

            I think its been a curve. We impoved through the first 4-5 years, but have tailed off since then. I’m sure theres more upward movement coming, but surely its no coincidence that we started losing around the same time Melnyk lost tons of money and instituted a budget

          • Sensnation

            The budget came after we started losing ground. We made the finals, then he tried the next few years to get us back there. Then the budget came in conjunction with the rebuild, which again was advertised by both parties. I know you guys all want to see Melnyk as the bad guy here, but we got years of spending very few owners would have given this market.

      • boom

        apparently…

  • FistsofNeil25

    2nd round pick and a prospect for Vanek. Fuck right off.

    • Doc

      Why?

  • Cicero

    Vanek is a defensive liability, and so never a good pursuit for us.

  • boom

    Habs get Vanek?

  • Millennium

    Man, at those prices I wish we had taken a run at Vanek or Moulson. That’s cheap as dirt depending who the prospect is

    • Sensnation

      I think if we had been in the playoffs it may have been more likely. However BM really wanted a 1st round pick this year and without getting that I doubt he wanted to move the 2nd rounder.

  • Sharmarke

    Does anyone else think Bryan Murray looks like Dave Hodge?

    • Cicero

      I’m more weirded out at how the female reporter in the Hemsky scrum in Edm looks like Lily Tomlin.

  • esk

    that last trade buffalo has better be Stewart to ottawa…or else huge disappointment for the sens. moulson and vanek went for cheap?

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      I hope Ernhoff tbh

      • Aaron 2.0

        That would be a dream come true. With lots of contract left, it would probably take significant pieces going back.

  • Millennium

    Garth Snow has got to be the worst GM in the league right now

    • esk

      so bad…hows he still have his job after all these years? If i was a fan i would boycott the islanders till he gets fired…

      • SuperSENS

        To answer your question, Charles Wang is the reason he still has a job. Boycotting wouldn’t make much of a difference either, as the Islanders attendance has been near or at the bottom of the league for at least a decade.

    • Sensnation

      Snow gets blamed, but the owner is the problem for the Islanders. He was the key to the Dipietro, Yashin and other unfortunate scenarios. Snow is just trying to rebuild through the draft to get out from behind all that.

  • FBP

    We still haven’t gotten the ‘Ottawa is closed’ tweet yet eh?

    • SensChirp

      Garrioch sent one out awhile ago, I believe. But didn’t seem definitive.

      • xN1Cx

        :(

      • CohMa

        Usually Bryan Murray would have said something to the media by now. Maybe they are involved in the speculated Buffalo call that’s still in the queue

        • CohMa

          Or not… Halak to WAS

  • Miguel

    not very pleased with the days results.
    CP4 again for two more excrucaiting years… not sure I can endure that
    Hemsky for a failed playoff run
    lose Conacher for nothing
    Hemsky and MM9 gone for nothing next year
    Can anyone please explain how this betters our team?

    • Phil.

      You don’t think BM tried to trade Conacher for something/anything before waivers?

    • Aaron 2.0

      I think they’re better today than they were yesterday. But, I generally agree these moves weren’t really part of any coherent long-term plan. For whatever reason, it’s obvious that ownership and management sees making the playoffs this year as their number one priority (despite the odds).

      In fairness to Michalek, he’d been worth just about nothing based on prices today. And, nobody will really miss Conacher too much. Nice guys though. Lots of spirit!

  • Doc

    Collberg and a 2nd for Vanek.

    • esk

      any info on the prospect?

    • FistsofNeil25

      how is that even possible…Garth Snow is the worst GM in hockey. By a f’n landslide…

      • Doc

        Waited too late. Still makes the Hemsky deal look better if you ask me.

        Collberg has all the tools to be a good player.

      • SuperSENS

        I didn’t think it was possible for a GM to do worse than Mike Milbury, but Garth Snow never disappoints. Poor Islanders fans (if there any still out there anymore).

  • CSI: Barbados

    Really looks like we could have had not only Vanek, but Moulson too. We have an abundance of prospects we could have dealt for these guys, it’s pretty disappointing.

    • Doc

      Why go for either rentals? Sorry but I highly doubt were making the playoffs, and giving away a prospect is the least thing I hope they do right now.

      Good day all in all.

      • FistsofNeil25

        We already went for a rental with Hemsky lol

        • Aaron 2.0

          The one things i’ll say, is that renting Hemsky cost us nothing. A better rental probably would have cost prospects.

          • SensChirp

            Also a better chance of retaining Hemsky, if they want to go that route.

        • Doc

          Which costed us nothing.

          Especially not a prospect.

        • Colin

          Seeing as the cost was so low, you could look at the Hemsky signing as more of an audition. If he shows some promise, maybe he earns a new contract.

      • CSI: Barbados

        They don’t have to be rentals. These are two bonafide top 6 forwards we could try and sign to move on.

        • Doc

          Try, yes. With how the team has been running their budget, I highly doubt we could have retained either of them.

          Doubt Vanek stays in MTL too.

      • CSI: Barbados

        With us not making the playoffs then, shouldn’t we have tried to get a 1st round pick? We can do that before the draft, but prices for 1st rounders then are much higher.

    • Sensnation

      If we had all the money in the world …

      • SoCal

        Or just 64 Mil would do it…

        • Sensnation

          You gonna foot that bill? Melnyk already footed 10+mil extra for a few years after our last cup appearance. If someone else would help him until the tv deal kicks in, I’m sure he’d accept it.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Halak to the Caps! saw that one coming

  • esk

    halak goes to washington..guess sabres are done..fuck

  • SensChirp

    Halak deal is the last one of the day, I believe

    • CohMa

      It’s weird that no one is saying that its the last one yet though….

    • MikeS

      By the sabers or overall?

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Overall I am not satisfied but not dissapointed. We shall see how Hemsky plays out. Go Sens Go. Hemsky trade was steal Vanek trade was a steal and same with Moulson.

    • runningbear1974

      I’m not satisfied, and disappointed…

    • Millennium

      TBH if that prospect turns out to be half decent, and depending what the condition is on the pick, the Vanek trade is closer to decent value than the Moulson for Mitchell + (unless its a high pick/prospect)

  • iSens

    Didn’t Jaques insist Ottawa wasn’t done? Does this mean the Sens won’t be sold?!

  • Sens613

    I know that vanek went for a cheap price and I’m a little disappointed because he goes to a rival we’re chasing for almost no cost for Mtl. Good on Montreal to take that step to compete with us in the playoffs ;)

    Vanek is a pure rental though and Ottawa had no chance to resigning him because of the 7+mil he wants and uncle Bryan knew this.

    We had a better chance to resigning moulson if we got him but Bryan wasn’t letting go of any more picks after acquiring hemsky(good price) and thats what Tim wanted for his rebuild. Just like uncle Bryan did for the Sens 3 years ago.

  • FistsofNeil25

    A disappointing day in a disappointing season. It could be worse… we could be Islander fans! At least there’s that.

    • esk

      touche

    • Sicilian

      I thought it was a good day… It’s not like we’re making the playoffs anyway.

      • Miguel

        which is why we should have dumped some bodies, and play our prospects

        • SuperSENS

          Who were we going to dump them on? In case you hadn’t noticed, we couldn’t even get trade away Conacher or Corvo for any return. We had to give Conacher away for free and send Corvo to an AHL team. :P

          • Miguel

            but we keep our worst dman for two more years… that was an easy dump for me

          • Sensnation

            Miguel our worst dman was Corvo. Our 2nd worst dman is Gryba or Wiercioch, with the other being the 3rd worst. Phillips at most is 4th worst among NHL dmen. Add in Boro, who you love for some reason and he’s now 5th worst. The problem isn’t that Phillips isn’t great, the problem is that we don’t have enough guys that are better.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Corvo absolutely wasn’t our worst d… Maybe last time he was here, but not this time

          • Sensnation

            Really? Who was the healthy scratch most of the season? WTF are you watching? He was terrible. I laughed when he was getting praise early this season, because it ignored half his game. Just like fans love doing with Karlsson.

          • SuperSENS

            That’s one body, Miguel. Also, that’s not dumping him here and now either, but rather at the end of the season. You’ve avoided answering the question entirely. :P

          • Miguel

            Greening Phillips for anything
            Neil, Smith, at the right price,
            and let some of our prospects play to see if they are better.
            I see we just sent Petersson off to Anaheim, would have liked to see him up instead of Conacher… interested to see how he does

          • SuperSENS

            Again, Miguel, who do you think would take them? Considering the eventual price of some of the other valuable players on the trade market today and yesterday, there’s clearly no market for them, period. Simply wishing they weren’t on the team doesn’t make it even remotely possible or plausible to make it so. :P

      • FistsofNeil25

        so why make a move for Hemsky at all then?

        • Sensnation

          To at least try, and also to see if he can gel with Spezza. Fans quit on a season, players rarely do until they are eliminated and then they enjoy being the spoiler!

  • Miguel

    best part of the day today…..Chirp will hit 1000!!!
    is that a record for our fearless leader?

    • Millennium

      Pretty sure we almost doubled that the day Alfie left…

  • Phil.

    Overall, I consider this a good day. No home runs, but good day. Slightly improved in case the Sens can go on a winning streak and make the playoffs. No loss of significant picks/prospects to gamble on the playoff race.

  • Sensnation

    Murray on TSN

  • Kohlmanator

    If we extend Hemsky, what’s a reasonable contract?

    • Sensnation

      With his injury history, he would have to light the league on fire the rest of this year and have instant chemistry with Spezza, to even consider re-signing him.

    • SoCal

      similar to what he’s earning now, maybe down a bit to a cap hit of 4mil with 2-3 years term

      • Kohlmanator

        Michalek out + Hemsky in = Melnyk’s cheque book balanced?

        • Sensnation

          I hope not, that’s a downgrade imo, but I’m willing to see how he gels with Spezza. The defensive side will be a bit scary, but you never know, sometimes things just click.

  • CohMa

    I need Bryan Murray to say the Sens are done, so I can stop refreshing my twitter account!

    • iSens

      He was just on TSN. They’re done

      • iSens

        James Gordon‏@SensReporter2 mins

        Sens have also traded Andre Petersson

        • Sensnation

          Finally!

  • FistsofNeil25

    I’m pretty disappointed with how things went today, admittedly because I’m growing somewhat impatient. I just really wanted something to happen today to feel good about.

    The last year has been a tough one for Sens fans. Our owner has embarrassed us time and time again. The budget talk never goes away. We lost the face of the franchise and best player in the history of this organization with Alfie. Spezza has regressed significantly. We gave up three quality assets for Bobby Ryan who our coach doesn’t seem to believe in. Cowen held out for a contract, missing training camp and now embarrasses himself on nearly every shift. Maclean has made so many head scratching decisions which have frustrated this fan base to no end. The list goes on..

    Has there been anything to feel good about this season? The emergence of Ceci and the strong play of Turris and MacArthur. That’s about all I feel good about as a Sens fan lately. Oh and the emergence of Lazar as a big time prospect…

    • Sensnation

      I feel great about the growth I’ve seen this season. Not the results, the growth! Watch out, this group will surprise you next year when everyone will have given up on them once again. Patience is hard for a fanbase, but is very much required with a young team!

      • FistsofNeil25

        It’s just hard to see them take a step back from last season. They were one of the healthiest teams in the league. This team should have been in the playoffs. Not an elite team but a playoff team none the less.

        • Sensnation

          Agreed, last season was such an unexpected over-performance, few were willing to admit that may be the case. The Toronto centric media went crazy all summer setting us up for this failure by claiming we were the cup favorites. Fans bought into it unfortunately, but we have to stop blaming the players, Melnyk, BM, PM for believing media personalities we spend most years making fun of.

          • FistsofNeil25

            I didn’t think we were a playoff team because of the media generated hype. I thought we were a playoff team because we have arguably a better roster than we did in the past two years when we were able to qualify.

            What became apparent this season is that we are a team without an identity. The past two seasons we saw this team work their asses off every night. We gained a reputation for being a hard working, pesky team.

            This group doesn’t work as hard. They don’t take care of business in their own zone. They don’t have an identity. We’re one of the worst defensive teams in hockey. It’s a frustrating experience to watch this team battle themselves every night and shoot themselves in the foot.

            I just don’t see the same growth that you do at the moment and the fact that Spezza, Ryan, MacArthur and Methot etc only have one year left on their contracts makes me extremely nervous.

          • SuperSENS

            In fairness, last season was shorter, and we also had the benefit of a group of AHL players, who’d been playing together all throughout the lockout, step in to replace our injured players. As a few of the TSN analysts pointed out this morning, this team overachieved greatly last season due to that. If it had been a full season like this year, I think we wouldn’t have seen quite the same result TBH.

          • Sensnation

            Karlsson wasn’t around to float for over half of last season. Spezza wasn’t there either.

            Not blaming it all on them, but putting more offensive players in over average 2-way players, will normally lead towards a worse defensive showing. Add that to the fact our d is young and has a lot to learn still and I think it all makes sense and was a bit predictable.

            Also Ryan was supposed to click with Spezza, instead Spezza’s on a season long search for a linemate that seems to be ending with Hemsky. Cowen and Phillips both get stuck playing 1 d pairing too high. A lot of things did not fall into place and instead were forced this year imo.

          • Jacques

            Spezza blows man stop trying to protect him, did you see his comical back checking last night! oh made a couple of fancy plays that got u all excited but he sent at least 3 passes that sent Edmonton on 3-1′s and 3-2′s. And I think it was Hemsky’s 2nd goal You see the old floater finally crosses his own blue line when the puck goes in! He’s MY f-ING hero!

          • Sensnation

            Sorry how many odd men rushes did Karlsson cause last night? Did you enjoy the float show on the goal when he didn’t take man or puck?

            That deke by Spezza was pretty amazing, if you didn’t enjoy it his game last night you’re never going to like him. But that’s on you, not him, management or any other fan of the team.

          • Jacques

            Karlsson scored the second goal on his own douche bag, Spezza all he does is skate in one zone, he’s a flipping pansy, a disgrace ,Canadian hockey players should have pride, that’s why the Olympics didn’t even look at him! A deke that nets nothing, is that what hockey is nowadays? Window dressing, you know squat!

          • Sensnation

            Was Spezza not our best player last night? Like seriously dude, give it up.

      • Jacques

        Growth of what? Hey there are minors on here, keep your growth to yourself ! Did u inherit Austin Powers Swedish P _ _ _ S Pump?

    • Miguel

      hey slow down with the negativity!
      we just signed one of our worst d-men for 2 more years ;-)
      maybe he can teach the rest of our young D how to point to the eventual goal scorers on the opposing team.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Said exactly what I wanted to say… But can’t really put into words.

    • Aaron 2.0

      Add that Karlsson has recovered without issue from injury to the list of things to feel good about!

    • sprucesens

      this is exactly it, and like aaron pointed out, karlsson healing.

  • FBP

    TOO MANY GRANTS

    • FAB

      yeah – and the posters who keep thinking that a bag of junk parts will
      get a top level player

      • SuperSENS

        IKR!

  • SensChirp

    One last deal at the top of the page. Andre Petersson dealt to Anaheim for defenceman Alex Grant.

    • FistsofNeil25

      any relation to Derek Grant?

    • thepez

      Just looked up his stats. Played 2 games for the Ducks this season and scored 2 goals. He is 6-3 202lbs according to hockey DB.

    • Yukon Cornelius

      He’s from Antigonish, NS so maybe he and PMac will connect over their shared hometown?!?

      Considering the logjam of defensive prospects the Sens have I doubt this will be a trade anyone remembers but there’s always hope that Murray & co. have found another misused gem.

      For what it’s worth Hockey’s Future summarizes Grant as “an offensively minded defenseman who possesses good size, passing ability, and a cannon of a shot from the blue line. He is however not a particularly dynamic defenseman and can at times be a liability in his own end. Though mobile he lacks quickness. Also, his gap control is not particularly good either.” Meh.

  • Sensnation

    Neuvirth to Buffalo is very interesting. This guy was supposed to be a top end prospect goalie, almost on the same level as Lehner, but Washington’s messed with his development. He could be a great reclamation project for Tim and his staff.

  • ali

    sooo………is hemsky playing tonight?

    • SensChirp

      Yup.

      • ali

        im going to guess that itll be something like
        michalek-spezza-hemsky
        mac-turris-ryan

        • Millennium

          Those are the lines that make sense.

          Which is probably why PMac won’t use them >: (

        • Jacques

          And please bring up Stone

          Cuz

          3rd line will be

          Hoffman-Zibby- and CONDRA who I can’t take anymore he has no Offensive idea the kid! He’s on an expiring contract I hope!

          • Sensnation

            Good website for salaries – http://capgeek.com/senators

            He has another year on his current contract at 1.3mil, then UFA in 2015. Cheap price for any line, but he just needs to stay out of the top 6 if not 9 to not drive us up the wall!

    • Sensnation

      Yes, he was going to drive to Calgary after they interviewed him.

  • FBP

    Poor Shane Prince’s sister.

    • Colin

      LOL!

    • Simple Jack

      sounds like she might be a problem.

    • SensFanInMTL

      Is she hawt?

  • Andrews theory

    not sure if it was mentioned below but Phillips got a No Trade Clause…eeesh
    congrats on 1013 comments chirp… prolly would have been more if the site hadn’t crashed lol

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      You have to be shit ING me

      • SensChirp

        Limited. 10 teams that he can’t be traded to.

        • SuperSENS

          Isn’t that the same as his current, soon to be expiring contract?

        • Sensnation

          I think we should definitely have expected this if he was re-signed. Not sure how any fan gets surprised or upset by this, but what do I know, this fanbase has lost it’s cool this year!

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Slightly better

        • Hax

          And really Murray would have done that for him anyway (i.e. tried to trade him somewhere he’s happy to go). See Fisher, Kelly etc.

  • IcySurfas

    HOLY NHL GOALIE SWAP BATMAN!

    Did any teams NOT trade a Goalie in the last 3 days??

    • IcySurfas

      Neuvirth, Halak (x2), Berra, Thomas, Ellis, Dubnyk, Luongo, Markstrom, Fasth, Bryzgalov, and Miller.

  • Simple Jack

    not to be a downer, but couldnt we give a 2nd and a blue chip prospect for vanek? hell if he didnt work out we could’ve traded his rights for the same back.

    shaking my head, hemsky really that who will push us into the playoffs?

    c’mon, murray i think u missed out on this and or moulson.

    • Sensnation

      Edmonton kept part of Hemsky’s salary. To get Vanek they’d have had to keep almost all of it.

      • Simple Jack

        of the remaining amount which is peanuts… and as for retaining, like i said if he didnt work out we could trade his rights, he’s worth something.

        • Sensnation

          It still more than our budget can afford. Just do the math man.

        • Jacques

          Don’t argue dude he has all the answers!

          • Sensnation

            Not hard to have answers that you’re not willing to google search for ;-p

            You and Simple Jack just need to want to inform yourselves more. Read, search, look up what you want to know.

          • Miguel

            yah… just ask him CP4 was a great signing!

          • Sensnation

            Lol, yup great was the word I used all day. Best signing ever Miguel, don’t forget it!

          • Jacques

            Phillips, Cowen, and Spezza! They are the greatest , don’t forget that Miguel or so SENSNATION says!

          • Sensnation

            Lol, you two need some serious perspective, must really suck to hate so much in the world.

    • SensChirp

      Just a better chance of being able to retain the player with Hemsky. Low risk

    • IcySurfas

      If Vanek was available for a (conditional) 2nd rounder, and a prospect, then that trade would have happened a long time ago to any team. Dont just assume that Murray could have offered that and we could have landed him. Its clear that Snow wanted the moon for this guy, and when no one was biting, he panicked at 3pm and made a deal (any deal) to the next caller, which happened to be Habs GM.

    • FAB

      SIGH – it’s all about the money

      Melnyk not willing to take on those salaries even for 20 games

      • SuperSENS

        Oy.

  • Sensnation

    Does anyone else think Tampa might start falling fast in the standings now?

    • Millennium

      That would be the silver lining for us, since we’re in their division. if they crash and burn, we could catch them.

      It probably won’t happen though. Stamkos is back, so its kinda par for the course for them

    • Simple Jack

      i see tampa getting stronger, not weaker.

      i can see montreal falling fast if price isnt healthy.

      • sben

        But dubnyk will save the day!

      • Sensnation

        Interesting about Tampa. What parts do you think got stronger? Do you think Callahan’s all around game or Stamkos’ return makes the impact? Just curious.

    • BFR

      Based on the trade alone, yes. But it depends on how the team reacts to MSL leaving. If Callahan gels with the team well, and they are able to maintain or improve their point production, they’ll be fine. I just think the loss of MSL’s production will cause them to slip. Then again, everyone thought they would tank when Stamkos got injured, and now he’s coming back, so who knows….

      • Sensnation

        Very good points. I think we’ll definitely find out who the gel on that team was/is!

  • Sensnation

    Pittsburgh gets Lee Stempniak as a consolation prize … ouch!

  • Jordan

    After watching hemsky light us up live yesterday at my first sens game im happy with this trade just wish it wouldve happened yesterday morning.

    • Simple Jack

      To me at best hemsky=michalek, even on the fragile injury plagued player, michalek has an edge for toughness.

    • sben

      you’re about the 200th person that has said that about the trade.

    • PraiseAlfie11

      1 game?

  • Simple Jack

    So whats the deal with ceci and hoffman, when do they have to report back to bingo?

    • Sensnation

      They don’t!

    • IcySurfas

      ?? Nobody “has too” report anywhere. Ceci is here for the rest of season (because he was told he was staying) and Hoffmann … he will play until staff feel hes not ready for the NHL yet. Which might never happen at this point …well see.

    • Hax

      Purely a move on paper to make them both eligible for Bingo playoffs if we don’t make the NHL playoffs (or if for some reason we do and they still want Hoffman to play in Bingo instead).

      We only have four call ups after the deadline so doing this before the deadline makes the eligible without “wasting” two of those four.

  • sben

    What’s gonna happen with Prince now?

    • SoCal

      He’ll find his princess

    • Simple Jack

      we tell him tough shit, you have no rights. earn your spot rook.

    • Millennium

      Probably moved in July. He has another year, so doubt its pressing.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      I would guess moved at the draft for a pick… Assuming someone is on the table Murray likes

    • Sensnation

      Still has a bright future, and we have a lot of potential openings in a year and a half, maybe sooner.

  • sben

    Felt that at this trade deadline every player was undervalued.

    Vanek, Penner, Hemsky, Robidas, Gaborik, Bryzgalov. I don’t know what happened.

    • Millennium

      If nobodies buying, prices come down. Buyers hold the leverage of the deadline, forcing sellers to drop prices or lose their asset for nothing in July. As long as all buyers hold off on being the first to cave in to a sellers price, this happens.

  • PraiseAlfie11

    Just throwing this out there…Shawn Simpson just threw the team under the bus. Said there was no way the sens would be legit contenders by the time Phillips contract expired. Said too many questions, too many holes, too young a core.

    • Simple Jack

      i still think simmer is an outspoken idiot, much like myself.

    • Sensnation

      I think it’s become at least debatable. I’m still on the side that we will be, but I can understand the other side. However, I still think the veteran leadership he’ll give over the next 2 years will be worth it either way.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      He is right… I will be amazed I c Ryan sticks around as a UFA. Hemsky who knows… Michalek who knows as well… Spezza at this point I wouldn’t be shocked if he explored fa.

      We needed to make some moves to drastically improve this team…. Resigning Philips, and a few minor league trades absolutely did not accomplish this.

    • Millennium

      The same Shawn Simpson who proudly orchestrated Raycroft for Rask in Toronto’s front office?

    • Aaron 2.0

      I think that’s probably fair depending on your definition of a contender. In two years time it’s pretty much impossible to see this team as a cup favorite (top 4-5 in the league sort of thing). They should push for a playoff spot again. The league is so tight and the team is so young, finishing anyway from 5th to 12th in the conference seem realistic. Whether it’s closer to 5 or 12 will probably depend on what sort of growth we see from the young guys, especially the D.

  • Phil.

    I like that on NHL.com the logo for Hemsky is the Sens’. He is the 3rd star of the night for scoring 2 goals against his own team.

    • Lorenzo72

      I’ve also seen this. LOL

  • SoCal

    A little off-topic for a sens blog, but how do you guys think Tim Murray did? Well played or did his inexperience show?

    • Richard Gough

      I think he did well considering

    • Simple Jack

      i think he should’ve given us last chance offer to land moulson, as thanks to the sens org.

      • sprucesens

        i think that would land him in trouble, tampering and what not

    • Sensnation

      Inexperience showed some, but he stuck to his gameplan and it seems to have worked out.

      I’m not familiar with all the players he got back, but they seem decent for the prices. The 2nds for Moulson are easier to take due to all the firsts already in possession.

      Definitely his team to build from the ground up through the draft, will be fun to watch!

      • SoCal

        I find myself hoping he screws this up….

  • Richard Gough

    How soon will Lazar be able to play with the big boys
    Hopping next season

    • Simple Jack

      im hopping for easter chocolate

      • Richard Gough

        Have fun with that !

    • Sensnation

      I heard someone suggest he could get a cup of a coffee at the end of this year, depending on the standings, after his season is done.

      Plan I think though is for him to have another season before going for the NHL team, but I expect him to make the decision hard in Sept!

      • Richard Gough

        I sure would love to see him get a solid shot to make the team next season

        • Sensnation

          With the our current roster, it couldn’t hurt, but Murray’s always been one to keep them down at least half to full year. He is definitely an exciting prospects to have!

          • Richard Gough

            He sure is

    • Andrews theory

      I’d be very surprised if Lazar doesn’t get a 9 game audition to start next year. There was apparently some discussion on keeping him this year if he hadn’t gotten injured…

      • A-Train

        So only 6 months until “Lazar wing or centre?” is the new “Zibanejad wing or centre”? Sweet.

        • Doc

          I see Lazar as a more effective RW than Zibby. My guess is that sooner rather than later, we will see a line of Hoffman-Zibby-Lazar.

          I don’t know about you but I am very excited about this notion. :D

  • cc

    why did we move Andre Petersson ? It was my understanding that RW is probably where we have least depth.

    • SensChirp

      Wanted more playing time and talked about going back to Sweden. Helps Binghamton with their playoff run too.

      • Harry Lime was Orson Welles

        Petersson’s salary is higher than Grant’s I suspect

        • Sensnation

          Yes for NHL, same AHL salary according to capgeek. Crazy, no wonder he wants to go back home.

  • Richard Gough

    Off to go see our newest member of the Sens hope he has a good game tonight

    • sprucesens

      enjoy the game. hopefully they come out a little better this time around. and we don’t get bit by the “should have traded for cammelleri” bug

  • karlssens

    Hemsky should get a 4 year offer from Ottawa. Somewhere around 4 million a year. Excellent second line player, I’m very happy with this signing. We keep our farm, however this draft will suffer for us unless we can unload some pieces for picks at the draft.

  • A-Train

    After some initial hair-pulling over the Conacher situation, I’m feeling pretty satisfied with Murray’s performance today.

    On Hemsky: Low-risk move, good chance he resigns if it works out. On the face of it an automatic upgrade in the short term.

    On Phillips: If you can’t understand his obvious value in an admittedly limited role, I don’t think I can help you.

    Frankly, Murray did exactly what he said he’d do and the moves fit our current “tweener” position between buyer and seller.

  • luckan20

    Now trade deadline has come and gone. We need to win at least games from the remaining to stay alive. Very tough task and we squandered a good opportunity last night. Hope we can win tonight against the Flames.

  • Millennium

    No changes on D, so Cowen scratched again.

    • Aaron 2.0

      D were pretty respectable last night, I thought. It seemed like the Ceci – Phillips pairing had a rough time moving the puck, but they seemed to play a lot of minutes with the Smith line, which was getting owned for large stretches of the game to superior talent. I like that move. At some point they need to get Cowen back in there. I guess they’re waiting for an obvious candidate. So far, the young guys in the lineup are doing alright.

      • Millennium

        To me they need to wait until their position in the standings is more decided before they start trusting Cowen again. Things are too close to risk the season to give him some extra ice time.

        • Aaron 2.0

          That’s fair. His confidence is clearly not in a good place right now. When they get him back in, hopefully management can find a way to shelter him a little more.

  • sben

    Where is the gameday post?

  • MethotToMyMadness

    Wow, well over 1000 comments today. Not sure what mine will be, but who’s really counting?

    Happy the Sens didn’t pay much for Hemsky. Was he the best option out there, no. But we didn’t get any worse by picking him up, we got better. And what we paid for it, prob won’t end up being much in Edmonton’s pockets.

    What really bothers me is Vanek to Montreal. The fact that he and Moulson went for close to what Hemsky did surprised me, but I guess the teams did the right thing, made the GM’s sweat it out and finally take whatever they could before it was too late.
    I think Vanek would have been great in Ottawa, but I’m happy he’s not here, because he’s one of those guys we all know plans to test the FA market regardless of where he ended up. At least Hemsky may sign on afterwards. At least I think we have a better chance at retaining him, than we did Vanek.

    I didn’t know much about Alex Grant. Looked him up, he’s a East Coast boy, stands tall and looks to have a pretty solid AHL background up to now. Scouting reports say he if offensive minded and can be a defense liability but has a cannon of a shot from the back end. Has played 2 games for the Ducks, 2 goals. Not to bad.

    So how did everyone enjoy the deadline?

  • karlssens

    I’m probably alone on this, but I am more than willing to give Michalek a 4 year extension as well. If he takes 4 mill a year he is worth every penny for the effort and heart he puts into every shift.

    • Doc

      I’ll be honest, I hope we re-sign to a fair contract (key word fair). He might be overpayed right now, but he does a lot of things right, and could be put in almost any situation.

  • Cicero

    Best news today is that Sens management doesn’t make trades based on consensus of these boards.

    All we’d have left is Neil and a bag of pucks.

    Welcome to your new home, Ales Hemsky!

  • Cicero

    Interesting to read today: a February 28 scouting report from Brian Lawton [Source: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-trades/nhl-trade-deadline-brian-lawtons-scouting-report/

    “Hemsky is either the most overrated player in the National Hockey
    League, or the most undervalued player by clubs other than the Oilers.
    He had a six-year run from 2005-11 when he put up nearly one point a
    game, but since then has played in only 155 games and scored just 80
    points over the last three seasons. That has created an inequity in his
    value as perceived by the Oilers and the rest of the league.

    “For any club that is willing to take a gamble on Hemsky, it is
    believed that he could put up strong numbers again if paired with the
    right centreman and a team with a strong defence that plays a lot more
    in the opposing team’s end rather than their own, which has not been the
    case in Edmonton the past few seasons.

    “The asking price for Hemsky has always been just more than what the
    market is willing to bear. This year, that price has been set at a
    first-round pick, but the most likely scenario will be a club giving up a
    second rounder at best for him.”

    Based on the above, we gave up very little for Hemsky, and are paying half his salary. He will work just fine on any of the top 3 lines, settling in as we make a run for the last wild card spot.

  • SensFanInMTL

    Love the Hemsky addition! Torn about Greening & Condra still being apart of the team. Hoffman, Stone, Lazar & Puempel will be getting a shot to crack the team next year. It’s theirs (Greening & Condra) to lose. I’d be for signing a one year contract with Hemsky next year and would like to see next season:

    Zibanejad – Spezza – Hemsky
    MacArthur – Turris – Ryan
    Hoffman – Lazar – Stone
    ?? – Smith – Neil

    One second thought, it may be wise to keep one of Condra & Greening. Definitely leaning more towards Condra. I don’t know about an extension for Michalek.

    • Millennium

      Condra, and his contract, are built for the fourth line. Greening and his $2.5M/yr extension that starts next season is totally disposable.

      • SensFanInMTL

        Perfect fellas. I was all for dumping Greening somewhere. Also, why
        wasn’t Cowen dealt for? Management sees something we don’t. Hope he
        makes a 180 of his game next season. Otherwise….

        • A-Train

          Nobody doubts Cowen’s been abominable this year, but it’s too early to give up. Not sure what he would’ve fetched anyway. Probably not much right now.

          • Doc

            Pretty much sums up what I think. No use in trading him now.

    • A-Train

      Really think Zibanejad’s calling is at centre.

      • Shibal

        Don’t really understand how you guys see Zib as a good center. He’s only produced points in 5 games playing as a center, and has scored only 3 goals as a center(this season). Because Zibanejad has been playing center the past 3 games, he’s in a pass first mentality now. Yesterday he had plenty of chances of shooting the puck but elected to pass instead. I think if Zib was playing wing, the pressure to pass would be less on him.

        • Doc

          To be fair, all of his ‘fancy stats’ as some like to call them are better when he’s at center. He’s our third best possession player after Karlsson then Condra.

          He’s got all the tools to be a very successful center in this league. There’s a valid reason why management seems so adamant at playing his at his natural position.

          Have faith Shibal! ;)

  • karlssens

    Put it this way: would you rather pay a 3rd and 5th for Hemsky and likely resign him? Or pay our second and Stone for Vanek with little chance of resigning him? I like the move we made. Period.

  • A-Train

    Really hoping the knock-on effect from Hemsky joining the team is that Bobby Ryan can go back to playing on a line that works…and stay there.

    milo – spezza – hemsky
    mac – turris – ryan
    hoffman – zib – condra
    greening – smith – neil

    Please Paul Maclean…just roll with something like that for a while.

    • Andrews theory

      Ya like the remainder of the season barring injury.

      How big a sample size do you need to choose some combinations.

      The only constant these guys have had this year is change…

    • Doc

      I know it might be too late for the season, but I actually really like those lines.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Quiet in here now.Game in 35 mins. Cant wait to see Hemsky. Hoping for a good gmae

    • MacK

      It feels like the night before Christmas! I too am very excited to see Hemsky on our top line! In saying that though, I feel the need to taper my expectations as there may be a bit of an adjustment period.

  • MacK

    I don’t know about anyone else but I’m not at all in favour of giving up on Cowen, He has shown far too much promise in the past few years to just throw him to the wolves when we could have another Chara type player on our hands. Far too early my friends…

  • illdistrict

    with the return Hemsky fetched, i understand why moving 9MM made no sense. come on sens, stretch drive – let’s go!

  • SensChirp

    Skipping the Game Day post today. Wanna see how high that comment count can go!

    • MacK

      hmmm…I’m thinking we can hit the 2k mark!

      • sben

        definitely with a game coming and people commenting on how the game is going.

  • Millennium

    2 Ranger shorties in the same powerplay and they tie it up with the Leafs. Hhahaha

    • aegiszx

      Wow, one heck of a chokejob LOL my neighbours are goin nuts I love it

  • MacK

    Hoffman, Zib and Ryan to start on our 2nd line

    • sens88

      Wouldn’t that be the third line?

      Condra Turris MacA
      Milo Spezza Hemsky
      Hoffman Zib Ryan
      Greening Smith Neil

      Why does PMac insist on playing people (Condra) that just don’t fit in the top 6?????

      • Millennium

        to be honest, those lines are kinda 1A 1B 1C. Each has their weakness, each has their strength, none definitely stronger than the other 2

        • sens88

          Turris, MacArthur and Ryan were indisputably the number one line up until just before the olympic break, and then when Ryan started to slump (which was apparently due to a nagging injury) they started to move him around. I understand trying to get guys going by juggling lines, but Condra is not, has not, and will not be as effective playing in the top 6.

          (Condra will probably get a bunch of goals tonight just despite me)

      • MacK

        I was just repeated what tsn1200 said the lines were.

  • sben

    I went to the oilers blogging website lowetide and posted the following:

    Hey guys I’m a sens fan and I come from the far away land of senschirp. I
    was wondering what your guys thoughts on hemsky are and what you think
    about him and what he could do there. Also is Hemky as injury prone as
    people think he is or are his injuries warranted? I think we got quite a
    gem for what we gave and I hope we can do well with him. Other than the
    sens you guys are my favorite team and I really think you guys will do
    well under MacT. Thanks.

    Here was the most thorough answer from a commenter named “Admiralmark”

    Well if i was to venture a guess I would say between now and summer most
    of Sens fans will love him. If he resigns beyond this year then you can
    look forward to a divided fanbase. You will love him at times and tear
    your hair out at other times. He will electrify and then frustrate. He
    possess’s all the skill necessary to thrive on the 1st or 2nd line.
    Sometimes he holds the puck too long or coughs it up at inopportune
    times. And other times he will dipsy doodle around 3 players and bury
    the puck in the net. Since Hemsky is on the end of a contract and has
    been givin new life with this trade I don’t think anybody around here
    would be surprised if he thrived for at least the remainder of this
    season? And trust me him being traded to Sens has created some secondary
    Sens fans around here.

    thoughts?

    • sens88

      One of my coworkers is a big oilers fan and said the same thing. Hopefully it will be a good fit for both sides, as Hemsky definitely has the skill we have been looking for.

      I’m really excited for the game tonight!

  • MacK

    how do broadcasters determine which line is considered line 1, 2, 3 and 4 before they line up?

    • sben

      I think they just guess. It is usually pretty clear because different players are put on different lines based on their playing style. 3rd and 4th line are pretty clear and 2 and 1 line are determined based on which defense pairings the lines will play on. Also I think the team websites say the lines sometimes. All those things combined usually provide definitive answers.

  • karlssens

    GO SENS GO. Absolutely need the next two wins. No other choice at this point

  • yannrock

    Hemsky also played very well for Hull back in junior

  • karlssens

    Hemsky with a goal and an assist! Final score 4-1 sens!

  • karlssens

    Hopefully milo and Hemsky can show some chemistry!

  • karlssens

    I would have put all those comments into one post, but I thought id up the comment count by an extra three chirp ;).

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Kinda nervous right now…Feels like a playoff game

  • Andrews theory

    K never heard of this goalie, smoke him ….

    • BFR

      That’s not a good sign.

  • PraiseAlfie11

    Microanalysis: that was a good 1st shift by hemsky

  • sprucesens

    betcha smith line won’ tmiss a shift after that

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Same old shit just a different day…

    • SuperSENS

      :(

  • yannrock

    what the f**k!

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Grandlund first nhl goal. Go figure

  • MacK

    not a good start, that’s for sure…

  • yannrock

    So far way too much time in the defensive zone

  • karlssens

    Oh boyyy

  • Dirk-Diggler

    Welcome Ales, we are planning on having a shitty game tonight…

    Signed

    Ottawa

  • karlssens

    This game might suck.

  • MacK

    hmmm…more perimeter play like last night. bummer, pk time.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Poor Ales Hemsky. Traded from one defensively inept non-playoff team to another.

  • karlssens

    Boys are aleeping so far

  • MacK

    that was some encouraging pressure by our new #1 line

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    If Maclean doesnt put Bobby back on the line HE SHOULD BE ON we will lose.

  • karlssens

    Condra sucks at anything offense. Let’s put him with line 2. Okay McLean

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    If we miss the playoffs this season then Paul Maclean is public enemy number one, no question.

    • FistsofNeil25

      No. Eugene Melnyk is public enemy number one.

      • karlssens

        Well said. He already is.

        • Andrews theory

          Yep …I think Mac is just having some growing pains as a coach.

  • FistsofNeil25

    It’s a good thing we play in the eastern conference. We would be right in the basement with Edmonton and Calgary if we had to play in the west

    • sprucesens

      our last like 6 games, we have been just a horrible team. if vancouver put in a decent goalie, we probably wouldn’t have won that one either

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Thank you Maclean. Look at that we get a quality scoring chance when they are together now leave it please.

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      This is what I’m saying. Yes, Gene is the owner but Mac is the one who coaches the team.

  • karlssens

    This hurts to watch

  • karlssens

    0 shots on the pp

  • FistsofNeil25

    Denis Potvin is actually unbearable to listen to. Man I’m hoping for a new broadcast team when TSN takes over.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    How many 4th string goalies are we going to lose to? This shit is unacceptable!

  • karlssens

    There goes hemskys collar bone.. Imagine

    • MacK

      bite your tongue!

  • sprucesens

    finally starting to remember that they have a shot still. start building on it

  • xN1Cx

    1201

  • Cicero

    Really like Ceci’s and Hoffman’s skills and smarts!

  • karlssens

    Let’s get a goal before the end of the period here

  • MacK

    I don’t want to jynx anything but unless this goalie stands on his head tonight, I’m thinking that we’ll take over in period 2.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Maclean should have these guys practicing basic hockey skills. Maybe start with tape to tape passing.

  • karlssens

    Condra kills any offensive chances we have bahh

    • Pugnacious Serf

      But watch his cross-overs, its like “Young Blood” out there.

  • karlssens

    These last 20 games we really struggle to score..

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Hemsky Spezza looking good so far. One positive for the period

    • Cicero

      Looking reaaaallly good. What a nice add to the squad!

    • Aaron 2.0

      Missed most of the 1st. Nice to hear. I thought it would take some time for those two guys to figure each other out. They’re both not the easiest to play with for a lot of guys. Maybe they’re both on the same wave length.

    • sprucesens

      at some point though, the coach has to tell our team to want to win the game. that means actually hustling, not just floating around. forechecking and backchecking wins games. not waiting for the other team to just screw up….

  • MacK

    Ok, so…with Hemsky and Spezza on our team, we are guaranteed see amazing dangles and highlight reel goals every game instead of just half the time…all kidding aside though. That last shift in the offensive zone was really fun to watch!

  • Colin

    Ryan is in the bottom 3 in TOI. Only Condra and Zib (yes, Zib!) have less ice time.

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      Dont tell me that. i was not gonna look at ice time tonight but damn

    • Pugnacious Serf

      Someone learning a valuable lesson about what you should and shouldn’t say to the media in between periods.

      Mac’s balls 1, Ryan’s 0.

      • sprucesens

        murray needs to say, i aquired this guy using valuable assets so we can play him, not so we can sit him. you don’t keep your top scorer on the bench, regardless of his attitude. If he’s winning you games, you play him.

        • Pugnacious Serf

          And how many game winning goals does Bobby have?

          • Colin

            What does GWG have to do with reduced ice time?

          • sprucesens

            not too sure on the stat of GWG’s. how many goals does he have to get us within striking distance of us winning the game… 22

      • Aaron 2.0

        I agree with you. But, at the same time, the coach needs to learn something from this too. He has to check his pride at the door, and realize players are probably frustrated about the constant state of line flux if players are speaking out about it. Again, I don’t think what Ryan did was smart. But, he’s not wrong either (he obviously has to find a better way to portray his thoughts to the coaches).

  • MacK

    anybody have a nice clear stream of this game? The only ones I’m finding are crazy pixelated.

    • sprucesens

      firstrowsports is usually decent

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Dont get me wrong I am a huge Paul Maclean fan but most of his decisions have got me wondering what he is doing with this team. At this rate Ryan wont come back.

  • karlssens

    Seems like this game out most of you to sleep..

  • Jacques

    Can they get a real player to play with Hoffman and Zibby, how about Stone!

  • sprucesens

    so, its nice that we have developed a new play on the PP, for zone entry. but by now every nhl team should be aware of it. every time karlsson and spezza are on, he’s going to do that dangerous drop pass…

    • Jacques

      It will go the other way for a shortie soon. Can Spezza set up on the Powerplay. It’s like he’s in a hurry all the time! One and out!

  • Floridasensfan

    We have to start playing great hockey to get in the playoffs but we are not a cup team playing the way we are, not sure how it gets fixed even for next year

  • Millennium

    Zero structure to our play. If it isn’t Karlsson carrying it in as a one man team, we aren’t getting anything going.

    • Aaron 2.0

      Full disclosure – missed the 1st. But, yeah, zero awareness on what is going on out there (particularly defensively). One team is loose, the other is scared to lose, I think. They’re not this bad!

    • sprucesens

      yeah, not sure what the coaches are preaching during practice. i don’t know if they just keep changing it up every practice, so the players have no idea what to do, or what. they look like they are just always trying to pull magic out of there a$$

  • karlssens

    Phillips gunna Phillips. Two more years of that awesomeness!

    • Jacques

      Uncle Bryan, no prob Philly whateva u want my son!

  • QSenFan

    This season cannot end quick enough. There is zero fun in watching them play most games. I dont know what to make of this team save for the hope that it is a transition type year for our team, growing pains so to speak. I miss Alfie….

  • FistsofNeil25

    What was the point in trading for Bobby Ryan if we weren’t going to use him?

  • karlssens

    wtf they sucks today.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    2-0… FML

  • sprucesens

    well the good news is, we probably don’t have to watch any more hockey this year, because this effort will lead to lots of easy W’s for other teams. We can all take up a new hobby, and finally start on those reno’s….

  • karlssens

    What’s the use. This seasons donezo

  • Aaron 2.0

    Yikes.

  • Millennium

    Man look at that defensive zone play. Horrendously bad.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Still an unproven goalie in net for the Flames. If they decide to show up, game’s not done yet. They need the next goal (this period would really help them).

  • karlssens

    I’m happy we’re missing the playoffs. Shows Eugene he can’t be a cheap ass. This is all on him

    • Pugnacious Serf

      Quitter.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    I just don’t know what direction this team is going in. If this roster is what we are going to roll with next year and the one after then I fear we won’t be seeing the playoffs.

    • karlssens

      As long as our broke owner has a 55 mil budget, he will quickly see this team is going no where

  • FistsofNeil25

    Well at least Hemsky has been our best player tonight.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    Here is something scary to think about… What if our payroll goes DOWN next year? Michalek will go, possibly Hemsky as well.. And, we will be replacing them with Stone/Hoffman etc… Yikes!

    I am actually all for the kids coming up but I want some quality players added through free agency as well..

    • karlssens

      Not gunna happen. We won’t win any bidding wars.

      • Dirk-Diggler

        So you think it’ll go down as well?

        • FistsofNeil25

          what’s the salary cap floor next year?

          • Dirk-Diggler

            No idea, but I do know we will be right near it!

  • FistsofNeil25

    Paul Maclean is giving DJ ZBad and Bobby fourth line minutes.

    • Mark

      Maclean is a tool. Can’t stand him.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      I am seriously on the verge of being over Maclean.

      We are close to having another Heatley situation because of an idiot coach…. Fuck last year was so much fun…. How has it come to this

  • karlssens

    SPOT PLAYING THE SMITH LINE JESUS

  • Pugnacious Serf

    Calgary really giving Ottawa the perimeter…

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Not over but Season is slipping away…FML

  • Pugnacious Serf

    That’s why you sit an Irishman…

  • MacK

    Bobby, blowing off some steam…

  • sprucesens

    attaboy ryan, show them you give a shit, and are sick of being treated like crap. maclean likes guys that only fight and hit, but if you score goals, you’ll get benched again..

  • BFR

    Good for Bobby.

  • karlssens

    Atta boy bob

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Atta boy Bobby

  • Millennium

    Play him with fourth line minutes, and he plays like a fourth line player.

  • Aaron 2.0

    The way the team is playing, it looks like there is a lot of frustration out there right now. I think a players only meeting would probably be wise, with leadership and coaches meeting afterwords. I’d be concerned that pretty soon there might be some player-coach relationships might become permanently strained. The line juggling and minutes need to be addressed, and it probably has to come from the players.

    • Pugnacious Serf

      Your right, time for the captain to take charge and lead by example.

      • FistsofNeil25

        It was time for him to do that a couple months ago.

        • Aaron 2.0

          At this point, i’m most concerned about repairing relations for next season. Things don’t look right, and really, they haven’t looked right all season.

      • Jacques

        He’s the problem have been saying it all year! 19 is clueless the puck is like a grenade about to go off! Nobody can play with this guy!

  • karlssens

    Fuck this team

  • karlssens

    Season on the line: don’t show up. So fed up with this.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Greening may be my least favorite Senator of all time.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Okay..Game over…Season potentially over..Unless we go on a 10 game winning streak

  • MacK

    that was some of the worst defensive coverage by Gryba and Weich I’ve ever seen…skating around like chickens with their heads cut off.

  • bluebuyyoo

    What the FUCK is MacLean doing? Only player with less ice time than 16, 7 and 6 is Neil!

  • Andrews theory

    Potvin reminds me of Mr Steinbrenner on Seinfeld

  • karlssens

    If we had a first I’d be all over this.. But we don’t. Melnyk, enjoy not making the playoffs this year you cheap fak!

  • Millennium

    Unreal how bad that zone play is. Nobody is covering anyone.

  • karlssens

    We have 2 maybe 3 capable defenders. And one capable of playing defense.

  • http://www.crashthenet.ca/ Luc Wolfe

    That hemsky deal was great but holy moly surely not enough

    • Shibal

      Hemsky deal(specifically) was great but useless. He’s the same age as Spezza, and Spezza is supposedly on a decline, so you have to expect that Hemsky is on a decline as well; there is no way in hell you should expect Hemsky to become a season saviour. It may be only one game but from what i’ve seen his urgency in playing hard is equivalent to Michalek which = garbage.

      • Jacques

        Spezza has declined, get Hemsky a real centerman who plays hockey the way it should be played!

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    haha Greening is def worth 3 million….NOT. I am not a happy fan right now. But i keep saying to myself we are still technically “in the hunt”

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      No… No we aren’t

      Time to accept this has come and gone

      • Moudy Mahfouz

        We are but I see what your saying..

  • Dirk-Diggler

    Is it bad that I’d like Cowen to be back in?

    • Aaron 2.0

      Cowen’s just been mishandled this year. He clearly was struggling coming back from injury, and instead of putting him in a place to succeed, he was asked to play top minutes with Karlsson. And, now fans sh*t on him regularly! I feel for the guy. I think he’ll prove his worth eventually.

    • MacK

      Cowen over Gryba in a heart beat!

      • Jacques

        You’re brave! Not sure!

    • sprucesens

      i dislike cowen’s play with a passion. But maybe now i ponder if cowen was asked to be an offensive defenceman or something. Maybe he actually wants to be the type of D we all want and the coach is trying to make him do something he isn’t. Seems like it wouldn’t be the first time….

  • Jacques

    Poor Hemsky! Did anyone tell him he’s really on the third line!

  • sens88

    What a joke. Is Murray honestly okay with the way Mclean is running this team? I have been a big fan of his, but I really really can’t take anymore if this

  • bluebuyyoo

    Greening & Smith getting considerably more TOI than Zib, Turris, CMac & Ryan is disturbing to say the least. If we had a 1st rounder, I would say we were tanking.

    • Jacques

      Mac should scale back Floaters minutes!

      • bluebuyyoo

        For once you are correct Jacques. Greening & Smith should be playing less tonight.

  • Andrews theory

    Maybe Alfie did a better job of reigning in a rookie coach..

    This is a growing pain, Murray just needs to sit him down and tell him to stop over coaching

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Murray needs to borrow a line from trump

  • sprucesens

    well, its been fun ryan. feel free to ask for a trade. obviously too late this year. But the day after some other team wins the cup, we’ll send you somewhere where you are allowed to play hockey. i’ve been mad at players before, i’ve seen some questionable trades, and some strange coaching decisions. But this season is pathetic. The owner refuses to spend money, which makes the gm look useless. The coach looks like he gets his plays and lines from the magic 8 ball. We have all these top prospects, yet we refuse to actually make room for them. I don’t expect anything different at the draft either.

  • Shibal

    By this point I don’t expect anything from Hoffman either. He’s great in the AHL, but I don’t see a bright future for him in the NHL. Cory Conacher is the perfect example of a guy that was former AHL MVP and Calder cup winner during his rookie year, but could not translate his amazingness into the NHL. I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Da Costa the most. It’s really too bad he got sent down, because he was playing his best hockey in the NHL right before he got sent down.

    • karlssens

      We have a bunch of B level prospects, but no stars in our pipeline. With tho draft clearly going to be a bust, I’m
      Concerned about our future.

    • Jacques

      Get shit stick Condra off that line and they might produce!

  • Hannibal

    Flames overwhelming the team with their speed. They are winning the battles for the puck. Team is frustrating to watch.

  • karlssens

    Other than being a NY islander or
    Panther fan, being an Ottawa fan is the third shittiest situation right now.

    • Andrews theory

      Ha…great minds think alike

    • Aaron 2.0

      I think the Panthers are on an okay path. Give them a few years!

      • karlssens

        We are stuck in the middle.. Not willing to rebuild, not good enough to make the playoffs.. We are the Toronto maple leafs of 5 years ago.. Minus the ability to spend.

        • sprucesens

          thats the thing, we ARE rebuilding. the GM just failed to finish selling off the deadweight. Guys like condra and greening were meant to be stop gaps, not 15 minute guys. Cowen took a huge step back, which no one could have predicted, but the other D were all shaky at best, and really weren’t good last year, that was the goalies standing on their heads. We might have a star player or 2 with all our prospects, but by the time we find out, guys like spezza, ryan, hemsky maybe, macA, will all be passing their prime, and our window will be closed before it even fully opened.

  • Andrews theory

    On another note; The Islanders

    Maybe Pierre Macguire will finally talk his way into a GM job. Gotta think Wang will figure this out at some point…

  • SoCal

    MacLean’s coaching this year makes me wonder if maybe that Jack Adams award was won by Alfredsson behind the scenes.

    • xiorcal

      It was said that Tim Murray was often working with the coaching staff. I remember the media speaking about the fact that Mac and is staff where probably happy to see Tim going to Buffalo the day he got his new job.

      • SoCal

        Well that makes sense. As much as I enjoy MacLean’s personality and golden bits during press conferences, he’s really looking like a rookie coach at times

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Decided not to watch the third. Maybe we will score some goals

    • xN1Cx

      Same

  • Aaron 2.0

    Well boys and girls, what a day of ups and downs. I think the next period calls for a strong drink. The team could probably all use one b/w periods too!

    • ATFIELD

      Thanks man.

  • Shibal

    Also Maclean keeps insisting that he likes Zib at center, but whenver Zib plays center his ice time diminishes like a mofo, which completely contradicts Macleans fondness of Zibanejad as a center. Zibanejad most productive plays have come as Spezza’s winger this year.

  • ATFIELD

    First time poster long time lurker and Die Hard Sens fan here in Brantford On. This could easily be an 1-3 road trip going into the Peg Sat. AFTERNOON.

    • Aaron 2.0

      Welcome friend! I’m in the Hammer myself (originally from Sudbury though).

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    Kkkkkk wait… I’ve figured it out.

    Maclean and Murray are geniuses they are sick of us not spending money so are deliberately tanking and are trying to get the team sold…. Honestly it is the Only even remotely logical reason

  • Senators Pundit

    Loss to Edmonton last night, now down 3 zip to Calgary….when did we become the worst team in the league?

    • sprucesens

      and blown out by boston and detroit

    • runningbear1974

      when phillips and spezza returned from injury….

      • Senators Pundit

        Hahaha, wow. You are absolutely right.

        • Shibal

          Yah, they had a season high 3 straight wins when Spezza and Phillips were out.

          • runningbear1974

            sucks 2 more years of this…

          • SoCal

            and no 1st round pick to show for it

          • SuperSENS

            Correlation =/= Causation :P

  • ATFIELD

    I love this team and won’t mail it in till we are officially elim. but it’s not looking good.

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    Well, theres always next year

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    Wait I came up with another reason… We are actually doing a trial run at tanking this season so that we master it for McDavid

  • karlssens

    We have one way to salvage this season.. We are going to have to sacrifice Spezza at the draft for a first and other pieces. He’s the hero we deserve, but not the one we need right now.

    • Pugnacious Serf

      Hopefully Garth Snow is willing to make a deal.

      • karlssens

        We can probably take Tavares and a 1st from
        Him.

  • Guest

    Describes me right now

  • karlssens

    Condra: he just does everything! Even fights too!

  • xiorcal

    I was going to say finally some emotion but I really don’t feel comfortable with the idea of thinking like Potvin

  • Senators Pundit

    I’ve never seen this team so frustrated. CMac AND Bobby throwing fists? The locker room must be a really bad scene right now.

  • ATFIELD

    I’ve got center ice but the last 2 games I’ve got the western feeds.

  • karlssens

    Calgary at most has 14000 ppl there.. But yah, they spend more than us too..-_-

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    Trade Spezza and Philips and whatever the fuck else Edmonton wants for their 2015 1st and draft McDavid and Eichel.

    Screw this… If we are going to be the shit show laughing stock of the league may as well get something out of it

    • karlssens

      That’s 2015
      Draft.

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    Greening and neil have significantly more ice time than ryan and turris
    Take lots of pictures of ryan in a sens uniform cause he wont be here after next year

    • Colin

      Ryan didn’t even get any PP time just now. Hoffman and Neil were used rather than him.

      • MacK

        Ryan was in the box for fighting.

  • ATFIELD

    Either we shoot wide or hit the post. Anyone notice in the Det. game we hit the post 3 or 4 times but we did play like shit, also against Van 5 times like we must lead the league in posts and missed shots.

  • karlssens

    Wtf did Ryan do to McLean

    • sprucesens

      scored goals for his team. thats a no no. you must hit and fight and offer no other skills

    • Aaron 2.0

      From what I can tell, be real and honest last night in an interview in a moment of frustration.

      • Colin

        I agree Aaron, but this is not new. Ryan has not had high TOI for most of the year.

  • MacK

    okay, so let me get this straight…Ryan shows a ton of heart and grit but putting up the dukes, and now he’s on the 4th line? *shakes head in disbelief*

    • Roar…

      Our coach is clearly of the mindset that “perception of working really hard/putting in effort” is superior to actually being good at hockey. This explains the TOI allocation on our hockey team perfectly.

      • Mat

        That used to be Clouston’s strategy…

  • Roar…

    It seems to me this whole mess could have been avoided.

    1. Step one, how about letting the best players actually play.
    2. Fill obvious void behind Karlsson & Methot. Two more 25+ quality defenders needed.

    At Present:
    18 minutes to – Zibanejad-Spezza-Hemsky

    20 minutes to – MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
    12 minutes to – Hoffman-DaCosta-Michalek

    10 minutes to – Greening-Smith-Condra

    It’s conceivable P-Mac assigns TOI based on perceived work-ethic rather than talent. Problem is, the talent is who has to actually win you the hockey games. I don’t care how hard Chris Neil works, he’s not going to win us many games. Bobby Ryan will.

    Maybe you want to avoid entitlement to minutes. That’s understandable. Problem is, the good players are entitled to those minutes based on how they produce points. Somehow I think Ryan plays a hell of a lot better when he isn’t questioning himself based on his own TOI. Inspire confidence in your best players by playing them even when you don’t think they’re having their best stretch of games. Just put them out there and let it happen.

    How would you feel if you were Bobby Ryan? Watching Greening go out there and shit the bed every night but he gets minutes because there is the perception that he “skates hard, works hard” or whatever shit you want to talk about that doesn’t actually win us hockey games. It’s annoying as fuck. If I was Karlsson I’d be losing my shit watching this nonsense on a nightly basis.

    • sprucesens

      yup

  • Brock

    I’ve always been a huge MacLean supporter but I’m seriously starting to question his coaching abilities.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Paul Maclean pre game speech includes “Dont worry if we lose tonight, as long as we play hard just like Greening” Bobby shakes head

  • karlssens

    Mark Reed whispers into macleans ear: sir, it occurs to me that we actually don’t have our first this year.

    Maclean: stares blankly

    • sprucesens

      lol. i am still laughing out loud about this comment

  • karlssens

    Our captain <3

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    I wonder what murray will do when Karlsson demands a trade….

    • karlssens

      We will get a hell of a package that’s for sure!

      • xiorcal

        Nope he will take the worst offer because it’s coming from a place where Karlsson is going to be happy.

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    Alfie, silfverburg, and petersson all dumped this year
    Wonder what Karlsson is thinking

  • Mat

    This team is unwatchable.

  • karlssens

    Lmfao is potvin on acid?

  • karlssens

    Man Anaheim owes us a huge favor

  • sprucesens

    yay. making another no name goalie look like an allstar…

    • Colin

      Don’t forget giving a rookie his first goal

  • karlssens

    After the game, Hemsky drives back to Edmonton.

    • Colin

      LOL!

    • sprucesens

      lol, yup

    • sprucesens

      u sir, have me in stitches twice tonight. thanks sir. The best joke though, is our team… HA, as i write that, potvin gives RYAN the hardest worker.

      • sprucesens

        ryan likely to end up in the box for a week

  • ATFIELD

    Watched the Carolina Buf game outta the Olympic break, Intermission they said the most likely team to steal the last wild card spot in the East would be the Ottawa Senators.

  • Mat

    No other team excels better at boosting the confidence of rookie goalies, ex Sens players, bottom dwellers and divisional rivals like the Sens.

  • karlssens

    Hey guys, let’s just have fun with it this season. It’s almost comically bad! Next year is still a rebuild.. I don’t know what Murray sees in this team..

  • ATFIELD

    YAY

  • karlssens

    Those bastards, giving us hope!

    • xiorcal

      Probably the most sarcastic reaction to a sens goal this year. :-)

  • Brock

    Here we come, Playoffs.

  • Colin

    Give that man some more ice time!

    • sprucesens

      BENCH HIM

  • ATFIELD

    post and in ;)

  • karlssens

    FLOODGATES

  • Mat

    Turris. Now Karlsson gets the second goal to prop our hopes up only to have MacLean put the Neil line for the last 3 minutes of the game..

    • sprucesens

      too late. put neil out early to fuck it up

  • SoCal

    Easy Turris, that goal is going to get you in Press Box

  • karlssens

    Neil you fucking
    Moron

  • Colin

    Neil taking a penalty. That will get hime TOI in the dying minutes of this game fer sure!

    • karlssens

      Showed real heart and poise on that slash.

  • esk

    greaaaaaat job neil at destroying whatever momentum turris created

  • karlssens

    Can someone honestly tell me why, after a goal, we throw on Neil and smith?

    • Colin

      Hard working, checking, head shaking…

  • esk

    hemsky gets hatrick, we win in overtime….

  • Aaron 2.0

    Seriously time for leadership to have a tete-a-tete with coaching. If any of us were a top-6 player in O-town, we’d all be lost with this sort of bench management.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Paul Maclean sucks this season.

  • Mat

    Wooooop there it is!

  • karlssens

    What a snipe!! Woooo

  • karlssens

    On the bright side our second is almost a first

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    I am still not wathcing this game. Just keep refreshing this page lmao

    • karlssens

      You’re missing a great game!

  • SoCal

    Safe to say Neil just earned himself some 1st line minutes

    • xiorcal

      In PMac system that mean he wont play right?

  • esk

    team is so shitty sometimes. i dont get it

  • Senators Pundit

    Chirp, we need your positivity here! Give us something to believe in!

  • Aaron 2.0

    Lol. I just remembered that Cammalleri has an a**hole face. Upon seeing it I intermediately want to punch it.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Positive comment, We are still TECHNICALLY in the hunt only 4 pts back…… YAY

    • karlssens

      This team has given me
      No reason to be optimistic.

      • Moudy Mahfouz

        Just trying my best not to be frustrated

  • sprucesens

    worst part is, i think the players feel as helpless as we as fans, do

  • Mat

    I hope Ales loves to play a poorly executed dump and chase system. Also, I hope he likes complicated defensive zone exits.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Clarke MacArthur has played 7:49, Colin Greening almost 6 minutes MORE…………………..

  • karlssens

    Murray can easily deal many players at the draft for picks. I’m sure we can recover a first.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Obviously this loss isn’t on Anderson at all, but while we’re on coaching decisions, anyone else wondering why Lehner isn’t playing the 2nd game of the back-to-back?

    • karlssens

      His last game may have been the worst goaltending performance of the year.. Like Robert Ecshe bad..

      • aegiszx

        Yeah, Lehner’s last game was… yeah…

        • Aaron 2.0

          Thanks for the opinions all. His last game was a stinker. But, eventually he has to play again. It just seemed like a good game on paper. 2nd worse team in the West on a Sens back-to-back. But, agree we may see him get a few starts now that playoff hopes are probably done.

      • aegiszx

        Not to mention, Andy has been off just as long, and needed the games more since he was going to be a factor down the stretch… but with no stretch in sight, might as well give Lehner more starts…

    • xiorcal

      Because Pmac

  • aegiszx

    You know that upswing that CP4 was talkin’ bout after signing his extension yesterday? Id like to see what he’s seeing cuz damn… the final 20 games are going to be BRUTAL…

  • Colin

    Tune into the toxic post game show on Team1200. Should be a right meltdown tonight.

  • Millennium

    I’m pretty much over the Maclean Experience.

  • Mat

    MacLean needs to get back on his meds…

  • karlssens

    Anyone else want a vented Coors after this game

    • Brock

      I’m a vented virgin.

    • ATFIELD

      Vented Carling cheaper

  • esk

    whats up with mac? if WE are this frustrated with him…imagine how the players feel…lool

  • sprucesens

    5 teams have a lower payroll than us. 2 of them beat us this week.

    • sell the team Eugene

      16 teams that have a higher payroll will make the playoffs

      • sprucesens

        15. colorado is the only one with a lower payroll that will make it. They also have a ton of “top prospects” playing on the team. Landeskog, duchene, mackinnon, and so on. So they have a low pay level, but are actually playing their top picks. Meanwhile, we have puempel, stone, SDC, prince and until recently, hoffman, and so on unable to play because of the pluggers on our 3rd/4th line. We just have crappy players signed to, at, or above their value, whereas colorado has top players on ELC’s.

  • Mat

    From Bob MacKenzie: Mike Hoffman has asked Bryan Murray to go back to Binghampton. Suspects this team is going to diminish his value.

  • karlssens

    Okay so at the draft, who other than Spezza could land us a first? Maybe Andy?

  • Colin

    Hate to talk about coaches losing the room, but these guys are definitely tuning out whatever system they are being asked to play.

    • karlssens

      It’s not the coach. It can’t be. This is like our 5th one.

      • Michenator

        So true…

        • Colin

          Why do Turris and Ryan have less ice time than Greening, Smith & Hoffman? Hoffman?? This is not the first time either.

          • sprucesens

            hoffman should be getting the ice time. greening and smith however should not. Go figure, we aren’t scoring goals, and our goal scorers aren’t getting ice time. WHODATHUNK

          • Colin

            Hoffman sure looks great speeding all over the ice. He sure deserves ice time over Turris and Ryan, eh? Way to go coach.

          • sprucesens

            hoffman is a prospect who is maybe on his last legs for trying out for our team. We don’t want him paired with no name grinders on the 4th line. Hoffman has looked very good since being called up. No, turris and ryan should have more ice time, but not at hoffy’s expense. see my above post of the minutes allocated tonight

      • aegiszx

        I’m goin to go ahead and say it… It’s Spezza. I really do think he frustrates coaches.

        • Colin

          If he frustrates the coach, then Spez should be benched by the coach.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    I miss Alfie.

  • Mat

    Does our coaching staff wear shaded prescription lens to hide the fact that they are completely wasted?

  • karlssens

    Greening signs new contract, walks out of Murray’s office, calls his wife “the dumbass gave me three mill, can you believe it?!”

  • ATFIELD

    Well this was definitely a MUST WIN effort

    • Aaron 2.0

      Last 2 games really. This road trip was probably their last chance.

  • Michenator

    Well this team has proven they can play like a consistently shitty team! Finally we have found our CONSISTENCY… I am heart broken. This season has been a f*ing wrecking ball.

  • karlssens

    Worse could happen. Wait.. No this season is pretty bad.

    • Michenator

      At least there is usually the, well at least we get a better pick thing…. but oh wait, NOPE!

  • Mat

    I would like the opportunity to go into the dressing room and yell at absolutely everybody.

  • ATFIELD

    Well can we make it 3 in a row Saturday aft.????

  • karlssens

    Orteo: “bah, I’ve played better teams in the 6th finish division!”

  • Mat

    Successful western road trip. Can’t wait to see how much worse it gets in Winnipeg. Goooooooooooo Sens!

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    still 4 pts just out of a playoff spot( just tryna brighten the mood up) .

  • Shibal

    Never really understood Macleans boner for Smith,Greening, and Neil. Everytime that line is on the ice nothing productive happens; it’s either pull of some good fore-checking or they take stupid penalties. Both Smith and Neil lead the team in penalty minutes. If these guys were playing on another team they would be playing 5-7 minutes a night, unfortunately Mac has their backs.

    Not really sure but this season is the season that has shown Maclean’s true colours as a coach. The first season he was lucky to have Spezza, Karlsson,Alfredsson, and Michalek playing well. Last season he was lucky to have unbelievable goaltending, this season he has none that, and this is the product.

    • Roar…

      I think I’m just now finally understanding his philosophy. For so long I’ve just scratched my head all year thinking “what the?” but now… now it’s clear. He gives minutes to players he perceives to “work hard” to him “best players play” means those that are the most professional about the job. Smith, Neil, Greening, Cowen & MIchalek are well known to be the teams “hardest working” and “most professional” in terms of game preparation. That’s why they play so much. Problem is this isn’t actually what wins teams hockey games. Talent wins you games, most of the time anyway. With Karlsson his talent and work ethic is undeniable so he gets the minutes he should. Other guys like Marc Methot get scratched for no explicable reason in meaningful hockey games. P-Mac is a good systems coach, but his allocation of ice time philosophy is utterly retarded. When Colin Greening is playing more minutes than Bobby Ryan you’ve got a problem, a big one. Maybe if it was Ryan taking that big shot opportunity last night instead of Greening we actually have a tie hockey game and get a point out of it.

  • karlssens

    Good night guys, it’s been a pleasure venting with you all! If the ship goes down, I’m proud to say it’s going down with the best crew (senschirp posters) there is!

    • ATFIELD

      bwahahahah love it

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      Goodnight too you 2 just remember we are still only 4 pts out;) hahahh

      • Michenator

        5 points out cause we wouldn’t win the tie breaker…. but I appreciate the optimism!

        • Moudy Mahfouz

          Still just a winning streak away..(Alot to ask for from this team haha

  • aegiszx

    Have to think there will be yet another players only meeting…

    • Aaron 2.0

      Absolutely. If not now, then when? Players and coaches are not even in the same time-zone right now.

    • xiorcal

      When was the last one?

      • aegiszx

        I can only guess maybe last week after the Wings loss… *shrugs*

        • xiorcal

          I don’t think there was a meeting. When there’s one we see it in the media and I don’t recall earring or reading anything.

          • xiorcal

            Last trace of a closed door meeting I can find is from decemer 19th

            http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=696691

            No meeting for me show a lack of team leadership.

          • aegiszx

            That long ago? I guess they only have one when the going gets REALLY tough…??

    • sprucesens

      i think the parents need to get involved like they do in young minor leagues. “My boy isn’t getting the same minutes as so and so. I pay just as much to see my boy play, so i better start seeing it!”

  • sprucesens

    michalek 21 mins, smith 17 mins, greening 15 mins, neil 12.5 mins……..turris 13 mins, ryan 13 mins, macA under 7 mins, zib 11 mins.

    Maclean 60 mins of stupidity

    • PalladiumDrive

      That’s just insane. Not only is that dumb game management, it will tear up the room.

  • karlssens

    **looks at mock draft. Sheds a single year.

  • sprucesens

    You would think, as a coach, you would play to your players strengths. Even flat out ask each player where he feels he plays best, and ask who he likes playing most with. Then work with that the best you can. Then find a way to make that work. When players have fun, and know what they should be doing, they tend to play better. When they get benched for trying to do some BS you ask them to, only to see their minutes decline, they tend to not give a shit about your philosophy…

  • Roar…

    You might think I’m kidding when I tell you that in terms of TOI….

    Turris (13.5)
    Zibanejad (12)
    Ryan (13.5)
    vs.
    Greening (15)
    Neil (12.5)
    Michalek (21)

    I’m sure to some teams it makes a lot of sense to play a guys that “work hard” more than leading goal scorers, 6th overall picks and effective 200 foot centers. Oh wait… actually it makes no sense at all. Not if you like winning hockey games anyway….

    • sprucesens

      yeah, i posted those minutes below too. add in MacA at under 8 mins…

      • Roar…

        I saw that with MacA, looks like he was hurt though. Unless he was just benched. Which would be prolifically bad coaching. He must have left the game at some point though.

        • sprucesens

          not sure. he came out pretty angry and threw that big hit at the end.

  • sprucesens

    on the plus side, we might hit 1500 comments by tomorrow morning

  • MacK

    Are we really this bad or can we chalk this up to an emotional draining week?

  • esk

    What was alfie’s value you say? just look at the sens season… #imissalfie

  • aegiszx

    Well, I’m tuning into the Ducks/Habs game now… God, Silf is such a fucking stud… His shot looks like its gotten much better, and he looks wayyy stronger overall. If we got him back sometime down the road, I’d be happy…

  • Richard Gough

    Just got back from the flames game and yet another ass kick
    Is this what you get after spending $2.5m a season get you Phillips did fuck all . Murray is going to have to make some hard decisions ,in the off season to turn this miss around

  • sprucesens

    chirp, like your comment on twitter about power struggle. As much as we like the insider info on this site, if you got cut off by asking the hard questions, it would be much appreciated. “why does it seem like guys like methot and ryan are on a short leash, while your entire grinder line gets free reign during the games” …career suicide. don’t take my advice. lol

  • Lorenzo72

    Congrats Chirp to the 1485 comments. The only succcess for a sens fan nowadays. LOL

  • T K

    I’m sorry everyone; it’s my fault. It’s this new retro style jersey that I bought in January. It’s nice & warm so I’ve worn it during 5 recent games. Sens have lost 4 of those 5 games. Sorry. I will not wear it during games anymore. I’ll save it for non-game days.
    Truly sorry, it won’t happen again…

  • Captain Karl

    Ok, lets examine whats happened in the last couple of days (7.7% chance of making the playoffs)

    First we let Conacher go for nothing. A guy who is in his second year, who is one of the few who will go to the dirty areas, who plays hard, who has one of the best +- on the team….FOR NOTHING

    Second, we sign Chris Phillips to a 2 year contract. If these are the guaranteed players for next year

    Karlsson

    Methot

    Ceci

    Phillips

    What do we do with whats left over (who is 5,6)

    Cowen

    Weircoch

    Gryba

    Borowecki

    And where is the motivation for these guys

    Claesson

    Grant

    Not to mention that our defence will still stink with all these young guys and not another bonafide top pairing defenceman.

    So what do we do with all these guys?

    Third, we trade for Ales Hemsky (while only having a 14% chance of making the playoffs)

    So lets say just for shits and giggles that we sign Hemsky to an extension. We have as of todays lineup

    Michalek

    Spezza

    Hemsky

    MacArthur

    Turris

    Ryan

    Hoffman

    Zibanijad

    Condra

    Greening

    Smith

    Neil

    Kassian

    Then what happens to these guys

    Stone (RW)

    Da Costa (center)

    Pageau (center)

    Lazar (center, wing)

    Prince (LW)

    Puempel (LW)

    Grant (center)

    None of these guys are 4th line grinders so we will be keeping one of GreeningCondra. I would assume it will be Greening because of his contract. (6.5 million dollar fourth line)

    So if Condra goes that will make room for Stone to move up onto Zibbys line.

    Where do the rest go. You cant keep them on the farm team perpetually.

    Just my observations here but PM has consistently leaned on the Smith line and TurrisMacArthur all season. These are the guys that play a 200 ft game. I’m not so sure that he and BM have the same vision. I don’t see Hemsky as a PM type of player. He is another one of these skill typesoft forwards (Martin Havlat light). I guess time will tell whether he will fit on this team but BM has a pile of work to do this off season to try and figure out the big picture. If we decide to stick with our young D and plug the forward positions with Bingo rookies we can probably expect another tough season. Or we could do some quantity for quality trades for a top pairing D and another high end veteran forward. Or we could do some quality for quality trades for our needs (Spezza, Cowen)

    One thing is for sure, something needs to be done to make sure that we don’t have a repeat of this year because we’ve already lost Conacher for nothing but it would really hurt if we wasted all those assets on Ryan and he bolts.

  • Simple Jack

    I guess we are building a tank? Seems odd.

  • Simple Jack

    I had no big expectations for last night,the anderson trade was the only trade that made an immediate impact.

    Almost all other trades we lost the first game.

  • ZibbyFan

    OK, I’m starting this morning off by saying WTF happened to these guys again last night? This team reminds me of the group we had before Brian blew it up a couple of years ago. We can’t wind diddly these days, again it seems. I’m quietly giving up on these guys. Just sayin…

  • Conor_smythe

    I can’t believe I have to put up with Phillips fat face for another 2 years

    for a guy who managed to trade Rundblad for Turris, Murray sure does some stupid things to keep me guessing

    And btw… Zibanejad=invisibible for the past 15 games… I know a lot of you have swedish blinders on, so I thought I would mention it

  • Dirk-Diggler

    The problem with the Sens is that there is zero accountability. The guys who consistently fuck up are getting the best minutes. I just don’t understand.

  • boom

    Can we all, finally, admit that the only reason we had a good season last year is because Anderson stood on his head?

    He may not have won the Vezina but he sure won the Jack Adams.

    Now that he is playing more like normal (still ok, just not great), the Senators weaknesses are being exposed night after night. They have no idea on how to play in the defensive zone – this is all on MacLean and his staff.

    Earlier in the year, I compared this team (specifically the coaching) to the Clouston era…was I really that far off?

    • Colin

      Two goals in games against Edmonton and Calgary is the problem. Andy can stand on his head all night long, but if the team doesn’t score, they don’t win.

    • runningbear1974

      I blame Spezza, Karlsson, and Cowen… If those guys weren’t on the team, we’d be making the playoffs this year… They do whatever they want regardless of what is happening on the ice….

    • BFR

      Goaltending stood on it’s head as Anderson was injured for a fair bit of time with the high ankle sprain. The team gelled together as they were a bunch of AHLers looking to prove they belonged, so they squeaked in. That’s the way I see it.

      And yes, this is totally on coaching. You can fiddle with lines in the first month or two to see who plays where, but if you’re constantly changing line combinations in March, you are lost.

  • nikeb613

    Do we have enough room on our roster now to bring up a forward from bingo?

    It would be nice to bring up Stone (when hes healthy) or maybe even a grinding D like Boro

    • Senators Pundit

      Boro should never have gone back down.

      • nikeb613

        The boys look like they need some intensity back there… hed be perfect to provide that spark

    • karlssens

      Should be him up and gryba down

      • nikeb613

        Anyone else on our current roster with a 2-way contract?

      • nikeb613

        Sounds crazy but if possible I think it would be ideal to send Cowen down for a short stint to gain some confidence… then call-up Stone and Boro

  • karlssens

    1500!!

    • xN1Cx

      So awesome!

  • runningbear1974

    Thank God for Spezza and Phillips’ leadership throughout these difficult times…

  • karlssens

    I think we can already see that we lost that Ryan trade.. Murray has been so so with his trades. He will have to work some magic at the draft and the offseason in order to make this team competitive again. As for this season, we can try to be positive, but I’m afraid it’s done. Even if we sqeak in, Pitts will steamroll us.

    I love spezza as much as you all, but really we need to move him this offseason and I think Murray knows it. He just doesn’t give his all every shift and it bleeds through the team. When Alfie was captain this team had the hardest work ethic in the league. Now, one year later, we have one of the lowest work rates. Just my .002. We can still get a first, a prospect, and a roster player for spezza.

    • nikeb613

      I dont agree with losing the Ryan trade, however if we trade Spezza for the rumored offers from teams like the Aves in the summer that would make our team better

      • karlssens

        If Silf had a full uninjured season he could arguably have 22 goals, then add I’m Noesen and a first? Yah we lost. Ryan is a hell of a player, and has been terribly unlucky. But I don’t think he even cracks 30 goals. We paid a lot for a 25 goal scorer..

        • BFR

          And that’s because he’s buried on the 3rd line with minimal minutes.

  • SensChirp

    Time to put this record setting post to bed. New one up here

    http://senschirp.ca/videos/another-soul-crushing-loss-alberta-recap/

  • SensChirp

    Seems like some of you may still be having issues with new posts not
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