Murray Speaks, Parenteau an Option?

SensChirp February 3, 2014 59
Murray Speaks, Parenteau an Option?

Following a disappointing loss to the Toronto Maple Leafs on Saturday night, Senators GM Bryan Murray met with the media briefly to discuss a variety of topics including Saturday’s game, the illegal hit on Cody Ceci and potential roster moves.

You can see that interview in its entirety below.

You’ll notice in the interview Murray mentions that the team was close to a minor deal for a forward but that it fell through. It’s safe to assume this wasn’t a deal for a bottom six forward so even though Murray labelled it as a small move, it makes sense to assume it would have been a potential top six forward coming back.

Asking around yesterday it sure sounds like it may have been a trade for Avalanche forward PA Parenteau.

Parenteau has been a healthy scratch lately for the Avs but returned to the lineup on Saturday against the Sabres. Not sure what would have caused a potential deal to fall through but there have been issues with Parenteau’s knee this season. He missed ten games in January and there was talk out of Colorado he may have come back from that injury a little too early.

Another possibility is a recent injury to Avalanche forward Alex Tanguay.  With Paul Statsny already out with an injury, losing Tanguay may have forced the Avalanche to hold off on the trade because they need forwards in the line up.

Either way, Bryan Murray seems set on adding a forward at some point prior to the NHL trade deadline in March. He would have liked to get it done before the Olympic break but that window is rapidly closing.  PA Parenteau is certainly an option the Senators are seriously considering.

Game Day post coming in a little bit.

  • Tcharger

    Signed for 2 more years at 4 mil? Am I correct…if so I don’t mind that risk, he can play, not entirely sure he is the top end talent that would put us over, but could be a very decent piece.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    So if Parenteau is not an option anymore does he go for Hemsky or if not sit tight and see where this team is at after the break.

    My opinion is that we still need to retool a bit and see what we can get for some of the guys on expiring deals or guys that can be replaced by younger and hungrier players. Michalek, Phillips, Greening (not sure he has any value), Corvo, Conacher, Da Costa… all those guys are replaceable and BM should be looking for an upgrade!

  • MethotToMyMadness

    So pissed at the none call on Saturday night, so much so, I couldn’t even muster up the ability to tweet or jump on SensChirp to post about it. How in the he11 does a player get smashed into the boards head first, and not have the opposing player pay for it? It’s beyond ridiculous and it’s none calls like that, which are making me lose faith in the integrity of the game.

    So much focus has been on head shots, boarding calls and concussions, since the beginning of the season. Are the refs already getting into the playoff mode, where they just let sh!t slide? Ok, rant is over.

    Sens have a big 4 games coming up, the opposition will be the toughest since the start of the season with the Pens and Blues back to back. Buffalo, hasn’t been doing well, but always seem to jump to the occasion. Then we end it with Boston. Still only 2 points from the last wildcard spot, but I have a feeling Murray will sit back, watch how the next 4 games unfold before deciding how to proceed with the trade deadline. Will we fall into a selling category, or still be considered a buyer?

    Personally, I’m happy we didn’t pick up Parenteau. He’s not the type of guy I see as a fix for our top 6. He’s been injured, hasn’t been playing. I hope it fell through on the Sens side, with them pulling out, because they realized how bad it would have been.

    • Dirtysweetness

      Are you talking about the lack of a response from the officials or our team not addressing the dirty hit. I think it pisses me off more that none of Ottawa’s players followed up with Kadri and made him accountable. Weeks back, we saw Spezza go to the aid of another player after a dirty hit…..what’s changed??

      • bluebuyyoo

        If someone went after Kadri later in the game, then they would likely have been suspended. I sometimes wonder if the fucking rats are protected more than their victims. By calling this a clean play, the NHL and NHLPA really don’t give a shit about player safety.

        • Zelle

          Honestly at that point I would have been happy losing two points if it meant Kadri got what he deserved. He’s gotten away with so much crap despite him already having a record.

      • spezzerman

        Cowen and Smith went after him right away, lucky to not get penalized. Kadri isnt going to back it up and more penalties wouldnt have helped. League protects rats as bluebuyyoo said

        • NickofTime

          You’re right, we should just shut up & not retaliate & just keep getting sand kicked in our face. We should defend our players or stand up for ourselves but just allow the Leafs to keep having their way with us. No call on a play that could have wound up with Ceci in a wheelchair for life but we should just allow the refs do their job.

          So what if it upsets the fans, so what if it looks cowardly, so what if the refs are bought off, so what if we continue to lose. It was much better to be beat by only 3 goals rather than by more than that & luckily no one got hurt in fight, that would have been awful. BTW for this who don’t get it, this is all said in sarcasm.

    • Zelle

      If we get a top six forward I hope it’s a player who’s willing to drop the gloves to protect his teammate. If officials won’t do anything then the guys on the team need to.

    • s3nsfan

      Fine, officials are human they missed it so be it. But for the NHL head office to not even call Kadri to review the play is beyond ridiculous, Ceci is crumpled into the end boards, this is the epitome of the hits the league is making people believe they want taken out of the game, i am literally FLOORED that nothing has come of it.

  • EK65

    I’d much rather see the Sens target a guy like Callahan than Parenteau. He’s a gritty player that also puts the puck in the net and is a UFA at the end of the year. I’d love to get a trade/sign deal that has him sticking around for 3-4 years. He would be a great addition to our forwards.

    • Sensturion

      There is no way in hell Callahan is worth 7 million dollars. Besides, Ottawa doesn’t really need grit. The team needs a winger to play with Spezza and Callahan is a nose to the net kind of player. We’ve got too many of those.

      • EK65

        He’s asking $7 mil? yikes, didn’t know that. I’d sign him for $5 million,
        I think he brings more than enough to the table for that money. He’s a leader who plays a physical game.

        • spezzerman

          I thought he wanted 6M which is still ridiculous. Rangers are letting him talk to other teams so they can tell him he is ridiculous too.

          • EK65

            6 million isn’t that ridiculous IMO. It’s high, but not nearly as ridiculous as some other contracts. Just looking at his points aren’t enough. He’s a good leader and would be an improvement over other players like Michalek, so if he was going the other way I’d think it’s a good pickup.

      • EK65

        Not really. B Murray said himself that they’re looking to add toughness. Which nose to the net players are bonafide top 6 guys?

    • SensChirp

      You’ll give up huge assets to land Callahan and I just can’t see anyway he signs a new deal in a Canadian market. Not gonna happen.

    • Tcharger

      He wants WAY too much money for what he brings…He is essentially a glorified Neil(although I will admit with more finish, but Neil I think has more than he has ever shown, he just knows his role on the team)

      • spezzerman

        hes a 20 G scorer – way more than a glorified Neil. But no one wants that next Clarkson contract. You can pay way, way less to other guys who bring the same intangibles but score, say, 15G vs 20 Don’t get me wrong, I would love Callahan but not for more than 5M long term.

        • Tcharger

          Agree completely that he is better than Neil, in the scoring aspect.

          Neil has hit double digits a few times in his career, playing a predominantly none scoring role though.

          • spezzerman

            oh I know but I think we’d both agree a 10G season for Neil is a good season.

  • SensChirp

    Should clarify this deal isn’t completely dead and that it may have been a case of both teams deciding to hold off for now. Avs are already without Statsny and now Alex Tanguay as well.

    May have forced Colorado into a wait and see approach before dealing Parenteau.

    • Bazza

      Seems odd that Parenteau would be classified as a small deal. He’s had very good numbers and till this year played in every game. Seems to me he would cost a lot.

  • EHMatt

    I don’t understand how BM doesn’t see that this group of defensemen isn’t going to get it done. They are mediocre at best. I agree they are young, but you can only do so much with a number of guys who should be playing 5-6 d-man positions. Cowen will be a top 4 guy, but hasn’t earned it this season. The only 2 that I see deserving of playing in the top 4 are Methot and Karlsson. What about talking to Buffalo about Ehrhoff or maybe even Vancouver about Edler? Both of those guys would look great playing with Karlsson. The defense seriously needs a top 4 upgrade.

    • Yukon Cornelius

      I wouldn’t mind Parenteau, contingent on the price, but I completely agree the first trade Murray should make is one for a legitimate top 4 d-man.

      Scoring is not the problem. The sens are currently tenth overall in terms of goals scored per game. They score 2.84 goals per game, that’s the same amount as Tampa and San Jose. On the other hand the sens are 28th in goals against with an atrocious 3.09 GA average. The only teams below us are NYI and Edmonton….

      More scoring is always nice but realistically it is the D that is letting us down.

    • Bazza

      I think Murray likes the potential that is in Gryba and Weircioch (not to mention Cowen). I expect he thinks Cowen is top 4 potential with one of the other two able to be a good bottom pairing and that he has to wait on their development. Frustrating for this year, but I think its the right way to go.

  • boom

    Does anyone think Hoffman gets another chance this season? He has nothing more to prove at the AHL level, but has shown nothing this season in the bigs. In fairness, MacLean hasn’t give him much opportunity in the previous call-ups.
    I’m on the fence with this guy, because I thought he looked good last year when he got called up – not so this year. Curious to see what the consensus is.

    • LeafsSux

      That dude is a solid player. Just wish he had the time up here to prove it..

    • Sensnation

      He’ll definitely get another chance when room is cleared with a trade.

      • SensChirp

        Adding a forward, not getting rid of one. Going to be tough for Hoffman to get a legitimate shot here in Ottawa.

        • Bazza

          Agree. I think Hoffman is someone you have to match with other players who compensate for his size deficit. I don’t think he can slot in a specific spot in the lineup like being Spezza’s wing. Trouble is he won’t get much in a trade and will likely sign elsewhere, and if he gets the right situation, he’ll do very well.

  • Richard Gough

    I wonder if Murray should look at Vanek ,since he turned down Garth Snows offer today

    • The Apostle

      Would love to get Vanek and I’m sure Murray and MacLean would too but I think there will be other teams willing to offer more to get him both in a trade this year and as a FA in the summer.

      • sben

        would have to pay quite a bit of money to get him. Prefer to get a top six forward that is cheap and quality for the money spent. Another clarke macarthur type guy. my personal preference would be mason raymond. Almost an exact copy of mason raymond.

        • James0079

          Raymond was still available deep into the summer I think and he only signed for 1 million for one year in Toronto. I remember thinking at the time why we didn’t go after him. He was obviously desperate to sign with a team, that’s why Toronto got him so cheap and nobody was offering to sign him. At least I think that was what happened, whether he turned down multiple teams and wanted to specifically sign with the Leafs, I’m not sure but they did get him pretty damn cheap.

      • Richard Gough

        Prompel /Felatov /2nd 2015 for Vanek

        • Hax

          Why not throw in De Custa, Graining and our 2016 thurd as well?

          • boom

            Classic.

          • Richard Gough

            De-Custa would work as well
            De-Costa
            Prompel
            Felatov (rights)
            2nd 2015
            for
            Vanek

          • Cicero

            HAHAHA HNNNNNG

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    This team doesn’t need another forward, they need a defenceman.

    • SensChirp

      But the type of defenceman they need (a top pairing guy) isn’t going to be available at the deadline and even if there was a guy like that on the market, the asking price would be astronomically high.

      Far easier to address the need for another top six rental than to go after a big name defenceman.

      • Dirtysweetness

        Why not go after Byfuglein? Best of both worlds! And he still has another year left on his contract. :)

  • Zelle

    Two days later and I’m still upset about the loss and Kadri hit Saturday. Does not feel good.

    • SENSsmile

      Same here. What do you think of the comment posted an hour ago by “Nickoftime” and my own response to it?

      • Zelle

        I fully agree. Take the penalty, who cares. Lose this game, but make sure it’s put to good use and show the other team they can’t get away with any bullshit. Next game they’ll play differently.

  • peetypuck

    Michalek’s +/- has now passed his points output. 22 points – (-) 23.

  • CrazyFish

    I’m totally against a trade for a rental this year, this team is so hot and cold that we aren’t going to go anywhere, assuming we squeak into the playoffs which doesn’t look like it’s going to happen.

    If the trade was for someone with a decent cap hit and a few years left that’s fine but what’s the point of a rental right now?

    • Sensnation

      Looking at the season as a developmental season, it would be a huge growth and learning experience to have this team make the playoffs, even if just for a round. If Murray thinks we’re one forward away from that, but we have others coming next year (Puempel, Hoffman…) then he’ll pull the trigger to give this team it’s best shot without mortgaging the future.

      • Zelle

        At best being in the playoffs would be a growth experience. But honestly I want them to miss it at this point just so they can learn that if they don’t give the effort, they’re not going to get anywhere. They deserved their spot last season by fighting for every point. This season, where is the fight? It’s here and there but is gone when it matters most.

        • Sensnation

          I don’t give up on the team until the final horn goes in game 82. Until then too early to tell what this team deserves. If they go on a run, they definitely deserve the playoff spot. It’s not like the other teams fighting for the wild card have been pictures of consistency either.

          • Zelle

            True. Sorry I’m just upset, was not the best weekend. I would just hate for the Sens to make the playoffs with a quick exit, a la Montreal.

      • CrazyFish

        But all the rentals names that keep popping up would take a few pieces to get them, I just don’t see the point. Why not hang onto those players/picks until you want to make a good run at the cup so that you have those pieces to move. Just feels like it would be a waste this year.

      • Bazza

        There are several guys in Bingo who might be of value next year. Puempel is not having a good year; Hoffman is but along with Pageau and Peterson, are very small (Murray seems to want big right now). Schneider on the other hand is having a very good season and if he can continue, might be a fit.

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  • NickofTime

    I would like to see BM make two moves, one for Drew Stafford in Buffalo & the other for Kyle Cliffofrd in LA. They are not the scorers Parenteau is but they add more size & toughness to the bottom six & Stafford is not that far removed from a 50 pt season. They are also the kind of players Ottawa will need in the playoffs if they make the playoffs after that fiasco in Toronto.

    Immediately after that hit, goal & no call on Ceci, PM should have put out his 5 toughest players, pulled Anderson & put in Lehner for the puck drop & started a huge line brawl. That would have sent a message to his players that we are not going to take this shit any more. That would have sent a message to the refs that they blew it & now they will have to work their asses off trying to break up 5 or 6 fights. That would have sent a message to the NHL that their refs fucked up & now they have to review the game from their lazy boy chairs in a Leaf suite drinking Lattes & realize they have pissed this franchise off for the last time. And that would have sent a message to the Leafs that this is war & we are going through your tough guys to get to Kadri. And I wouldn’t stop there, the next time Kadri was on the ice the closest guy to him would have to drop his gloves & goaf

    • SENSsmile

      How do you fix a “chicken shit” mindset within an organizational culture? Stafford, Clifford, whatever… once they would wear a Sens, would they become the same type of players who “chicken out against the Leafs & play scared and never respond”? That is the question. I think your second paragraph makes a compelling case that the Sens will never get respect from refs and the NHL as long as they maintain that little boy scout mentality. In that sense, I fully agree that this was on the coach for not responding. This is on the entire Sens organization for always turning the other cheek and keeping their emotions in check. I think it’s time for the team to let some steam off and tell the league: “I’m sick and tired of this freaking bullshit and I’m not going to take it anymore!”

      Until this happens, it won’t make much of a difference whether or not the Sens bring in Parenteau or anyone else. They need to stop being so afraid of rocking the boat!

  • NickofTime

    Exactly what this team needs is another soft player, like there isn’t enough guys on this team that don’t compete. He’s a healthy scratch for a reason & we already have enough guys who don’t compete, what we need to do is get rid of all of these figure skaters with no compete in their game starting with Spezza..