Karlsson Earns Masterton Nomination

SensChirp April 1, 2014 163
Karlsson Earns Masterton Nomination

This afternoon the Professional Hockey Writer’s Association announced that defenceman Erik Karlsson is the team’s nominee for the Bill Masterton Award. The award is presented annually to the player who best exemplifies the qualities of perseverance, sportsmanship, and dedication to hockey.

And when you consider how grim things looked for Karlsson back on February 13, 2013- it’s is a extremely well-deserved nomination.

I’m sure we all remember how we felt, watching Karlsson go down with that injury. And as the updates began to surface, and word spread about the severity of the injury, it was hard not to think worst case scenario. Not only were the Senators losing their best player for the rest of the season, but there was a very real chance that a generational talent was never going to be the same.  As fans we considered the worst but Karlsson would have nothing of it.

Not only did he return that season, but he has since steadily improved to the point where he’s pretty close to 100% and back to his old self. Karlsson will tell you that there are still lingering effects from the injury but you’d never know it watching him play.

Karlsson has racked up an incredible 70 points this season yet isn’t even being considered in the Norris Trophy conversation. He’s got a 13 point lead on the next closest defenceman and is actually pushing that 78 point mark he put up back in the 2011-2012 season.  Point totals are down slightly but his 20 goals have set a new franchise record for goals by a defenceman, eclipsing a record he shared with Steve Duchesne.

From where he was on the night of that injury, now back among the game’s elite players in less than a calendar year. Certainly worthy of the nomination.  As fans of the Ottawa Senators, we are extremely lucky that we get to watch a player like Erik Karlsson on a nightly basis.

-Couple other bits of Sens news today. This morning, the team announced that they have signed Ferris State forward Garret Thompson. Thompson has spent the last four seasons with Ferris State and is expected to join the Binghamton Senators in the next couple days. The Senators also announced the signing of goaltender Chris Driedger to a three year, entry level contract. Driedger is coming off an impressive season with the Calgary Hitmen of the Western Hockey League.

  • Tim

    Looking forward to seeing Thompson and Drieger. Driegers playoffs leave something to be desired but He can do another year in juniors can’t he?

    • Sandy

      I think Dreidger can go to the AHL for next season… He’s had 4 yrs in the CHL.

    • Jacques

      Patrick Roy when he was drafted by the Habs had back to back over 5 goals against per year averages with the Granby Predators. Driedger’s team was up against a good scoring team in the playoffs this year.

  • jtf927

    great nomination for karlsson. would be awesome to see him get the masterton and norris. GO KARLSSON AND GO SENS!

  • FistsofNeil25

    “…the player who best exemplifies the qualities of perseverance, sportsmanship, and dedication to hockey.” – If only he had showed dedication to playing defense this year he could have earned himself another Norris nomination, not just a Masterton lol

    All joking aside, it’s great to see Karl bounce back this season the way he has. When he went down with that injury last year I felt nauseous, and watching him in the playoffs last year I wondered if he would ever be the same again. Those doubts are long gone by now.

    This was a bit of a rough season for Karlsson on the defensive side of things but he’s been far from the only one to have struggled. I expect him to dominate in 2014/2015 and play more like the best defenceman in the game that we all know he can be.

  • Sandy

    One thing McLean has to do is cut down his minutes for the rest of the season. He’s getting worn down.,

    • Zelle

      Yes I believe that is why he was so sluggish last night. Playing almost 30mins in one game and then another 25mins in a back to back.

  • FistsofNeil25

    These clowns on Sportsnet (McCown, Kypreos, Freidman) are talking about who will take over for Carlyle when he’s fired after the season. These geniuses seem to think that all the best coaches in the game will leave their current teams and will be lined up for the Leafs head coaching job. Kypreos seems to think that Babcock would leave Detroit for the challenge of coaching the Leafs lol It don’t even know why I watch these idiots

    • Sandy

      That’s why I hate Sportsnet..

    • Zelle

      Babcock would have to be a fool to leave Detroit for Toronto, and we all know he didn’t build his team to be what it is because he’s a fool.

  • Hax

    Great that he got this nomination.

    I’m totally fine with him not getting Norris consideration though. The year he won he was much more balanced in his play but this year he hasn’t played well enough in his own end. Nobody on the team has really (few exceptions).

    I fully believe that Karlsson could win the Norris every year if he wanted to play a 200-ft game. Hopefully he gets there.

    • Senator forever

      Anyone know Garret Thompson signed by the Sens today. Does he have potential or is he a depth signing?

    • Jacques

      He’ll be a hundred percent next year!

  • Jacques

    Still haven’t lost a game with giggles out of the lineup this year! Double bonus with Cowen out! Put Claessen in for Phillips and I think we run the table! No coincidence we only gave up 30 shots through 65 minutes! When all the guys play a two way game you get a neater effort!

    Lineup for next year

    MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
    Michalek-Zibby-Hemsky
    Hoffman-DaCosta-Stone
    Greening-Smith-Pageau
    Lazar(decide what we do with him)

    Sign Michalek and Hemsky reasonable numbers.
    Sign Ryan and MacArthur to extensions
    Trade Spezza to a team out west that can put up with what game he brings(get a couple of assets that will help us). If you think that this lineup won’t score goals and play good two-way hockey your nuts. Time to move on, we’re a better team without him. No losses this year without him and last year with young team without him we gave up the least amount of goals in the league. Sure, the goaltending was better but the overall two way game wast hokey, it was hardworking all over the ice. Zibby can do the same for Hemsky and maybe more.

    • FistsofNeil25

      You think that line-up would run the table eh?

      • Jacques

        I think so, I think Cowen and Phillips blow.

        Karlsson-Methot
        Claessen-Gryba
        Wiorcioch-Ceci

        Would do fine on the back end. Nobody was going around our D last night with Cowen out of there, he’s a turnstile.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

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      • Jacques

        I will not chew gum in class!

      • do due dew doodoo

        Whenever I bother to read one of his longer posts I hear a Donald Duck temper tantrum in my head.

    • H POTTER

      You think the more and more you talk this crap about how we need to trade Spezz yesterday is going to make it happen ? We alllll get that you don’t like him but you gotta chill with that crap until at least summertime ! Moat people here do not care about next year’s team for now. We’re kind-of hanging on that small belief that we may enter the playoffs from the back door against all odds after an horrendous stretch after the Olympics. Chirp is trying he’s best to keep it positive now that we see a glimpse of hope and you have to bring that spezz talk again. Trust me, I’m not a Spezza fan. I like half of his game but I too believe that he’s not that solid 200ft player, but sometimes it’s good to chill bruh

      • Jacques

        I’m holding on to the same hope but I liked better what I saw overall from this team last night.

    • Sandy

      You trade Spezza — you don’t have Hemsky.
      Hemsky said that Spezza is the best centre he has ever played with.. and that will be make up part of his decision to re-sign..

      • jtf927

        absolutely. we should sign and keep hemsky and 9mm to plays with spezza. if we sign hemsky, spezza will stay and vice versa.

      • Jacques

        Hemsky will play if the money is right. If he plays with Zibby he won’t be in his end as much! He looked happy last night!

  • FistsofNeil25

    Mike Babcock on the radio right now – Paraphrasing here but…” If your center ice-men can’t play both sides of the puck in this league you can’t win….Points are impressive but if you put up points and still lose then you’re missing your goal. The objective is to win and your centers need to be able to play on the defensive side of the puck.”

    I tend to agree with him.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      I do too…I think Spezza is a dieing breed in this league, there are very few purely offensive players left.

      • Jacques

        Dieing is right. Plays a kovalevish game right now. You could
        See a major difference in the way the team played last night.

      • FistsofNeil25

        Yup. Take a look at the most recent cup winners

        2012/2013 Hawks – Toews, Handzus, Bolland, Kruger

        2011/2012 Kings – Kopitar, Richards, Stoll

        2010/2011 Bruins – Bergeron, Krejci, Kelly, Campbell

        2009/2010 Hawks – Toews, Bolland etc

        2008/2009 Pens – Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Talbot (Okay bad example that is just sick)

        2007/2008 Wings – Datsyuk, Filppula, Hudler, Draper

        I would show 2006/2007 but we all know what happened then.

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          I think (as much as I hate him) Crosby is underrated defensively

    • Jacques

      Very true have heard many intelligent hockey men over the past few years say this. Cuz if a guy is out there 19 minutes , then you’re basically short handed for 19 minutes. On a good team, the top two centerman have to deliver plus numbers! Can’t have one line a plus 20 and the other line a minus 25.

    • Sensturion

      In 11 seasons, Jason Spezza has only been a minus player 4 times. He is a career +57. I love Karlsson as much as the next guy, but as an offensive defenseman who’s been nearly a PPG player the last three years, he’s -29 career.

      Why is it ok for a defenseman to be so poor defensively, but not a forward?

      • FistsofNeil25

        It’s not okay at all. We’re not going anywhere until Karlsson steps up his defensive game. You simply can’t win in this league with defensive liabilities playing big minutes for you team.

        The best teams in the league will tear you apart if you’re weak in your own zone and careless with the puck.

        The difference between Karlsson and Spezza is that Karl is young and can improve.

        You also can’t use Spezza’s career plus/minus as an indicator of his overall defensive play. Take a look at Turris’ team leading +21 and Spezza’s -23 on a team that is an overall -32 and you’ll see the difference between a good overall player and a one-dimensional offensive guy.

    • Zelle

      I agree with him as well. I’ve noticed Spezza improving on his 200ft game though, could be a sign he is willing to change for the sake of this club.

  • Sensturion

    For those of you still saying Ottawa should get rid of Spezza after Hemsky’s comments, I believe it may be time to shut up.

    The only way in hell Hemsky resigns here is if Spezza is around. Get rid of Spezza and you might as well say goodbye to both Hemsky AND Michalek (I think he should be resigned based on his performance since Hemsky’s arrival). If you lose all three, who steps up as a number 1 line? Turris, MacArthur and Ryan are the perfect second line. While the offense they bring is great, it’s nowhere near enough to get a team to the postseason, IMO.

    Losing Spezza, Hemsky and Michalek gives Ottawa 15+ million to spend on who… Heatley and Vanek? Yeah, I think I’ll stick with what we have now, thank you very much.

    • Jacques

      Ok let’s have a first line that can’t play in its own zone, TUrris has been our number one center for two years now what r you watching!

      • A-Train

        You are getting very tiresome.

      • Sensturion

        Hmm… lets look at the teams that are out of a playoff position. Excluding Toronto, Washington and Dallas, NONE OF THEM HAVE A PPG PLAYER. Explain to me how you expect Ottawa to achieve anything without a star player. Also, Turris has been a number 1 centre for two years? Turris, while being a great player, is scoring at a 0.5 ppg clip. Hardly enough to warrant being called a first line centre.

        • Aaron 2.0

          I’m fully on your side on keep Spezza. Have to point out that Turris over the last 2 years (including playoffs) is 0.699 PPG (lets round up to 0.7). Only because I have a solid man-crush on Turris!

          For Jacques, I think it’s important to at least consider that while we made the playoffs last year with only Turris, our goals against was amazingly low. That might partially be a function of the team’s play, but regression to the mean would have certainly happened at some point. Given we were winning every game by a goal (pesky sens), it’s not hard to imagine what would of happened if there was even a moderate correction in our defensive stats.

      • SensChirp

        Give it a rest, man.

    • Brutus5247

      Hemsky can play with good players on any team so forget the idea that SPEZZA is here and that is enough to keep him. It’s money, term, town, team!

  • A-Train

    It’s great to have seen Karlsson regain his flair. It’ll be interesting to see where his career goes from here.

  • Zelle

    Interesting:
    “James Mirtle @mirtle
    Leafs playoff hopes are at 4.6%. The Flames wouldn’t mind making that close to zero. Here’s a preview http://fw.to/CRylLNO

    So Sens and Leafs have almost the same chances to make the playoffs at this point? Or are the Sens still below 1%?

  • Brutus5247

    Why are Spezza’s numbers better? He has two fast guys backchecking and he is actually hustling. Saw him behind the defensive net battling the other day and I just about shit. Spezza still makes some shitting passes but with two decent wingers he can find the seam.

  • Brutus5247

    It seems that we don’t pay free agents more than they are worth. We save that for special guys on the team.

  • Jacques

    Was looking at some stats, our goalies goals against average when Spezza is on the ice is 0,895 and when TUrris is on the ice it’s 0,931. Must be all the goalies fault this year! Only2 guys below 0,9 Spezz and Michalek. Goalies are 0,944 when Hoffman is out there.

    • SensChirp

      Save percentage?

    • Aaron 2.0

      Interesting stat. It probably points to some bad luck for Spezza and Michalek, along with increased number of decent scoring chances for the bad guys when these two were on the ice. They’re giving up a lot less now that they’re clicking with Hemsky. But earlier in the year, they probably gave up a disproportionate number of high-quality chances. Still, I think this probably points to a bit of bad luck too.

      • SensChirp

        Sort of my reaction too. Havent seen if the numbers are accurate but it would sort of suggest that Spezza and Michalek have been the victims of bad luck with opposition shooting at a higher than average rate.

        • FistsofNeil25

          I’m sure that’s part of it Chirp but a big reason why the opposition is shooting at a higher rate vs Spezza and Michalek is because they give up a higher quantity and a higher quality of scoring chances against.

          They have been terrible away from the puck all season long. You can’t expect to achieve the highest level of success in this league with your most heavily relied upon players not being able to play both sides of the puck.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Interesting stats(assuming it is sv %)…And I am not shocked that more well rounded players would cause the goalies to have better stats.

  • Aaron 2.0

    I would have to agree with Karlsson not being part of the Norris conversation this year, Chirp. Or at least not a serious contender like 2 years ago when he won. I love EK. He’s my favorite player in league. I spent over a year working on a trade for him in my own keeper league (I think my friend eventually just did it so I’d go away). For me all the great offensive things he’s accomplished this year is not enough to cover up the defensive faults he also showed. He’s definitely still improving, and have not doubt that he will clean up that part of the game moving forward. I wouldn’t trade him for any other player in the world, but it’s not his year for the Norris, IMHO.

    • SensChirp

      He’s close but probably on the outside. Says a lot about the standard he has set for himself that he can put up 70-75 points and have people call it an off year.

      • Aaron 2.0

        I agree. I won’t be surprised if he gets a few votes. I just don’t think he’ll be a serious threat. I think his offensive prowess is probably close to where it was pre-injury. That part of the game just comes so naturally to him. The part he has to work at more is defense. It makes sense to me that he’s struggled a little more to adjust (especially if fatigue has been an issue, as he’s suggested it is). Bottom line, i’m not worried about him though. And, I wouldn’t give him up for ANYBODY!

        • Sandy

          Love Karlsson but Duncan Keith should get the Norris this season.

          • Aaron 2.0

            He seems to be the favorite for sure. What about Petro in STL?

          • FistsofNeil25

            Keith, Pietrangelo and McDonagh have all made really strong cases. Keith and Poetrangelo play on great teams and have Seabrook and Bouwmeester as defensive partners. McDonagh has Girardi.

            What about Suter? He may only have 41 points but he also logs the most ice time in the NHL.

    • Zelle

      I like EK on the defensive, I’ve seen him steal pucks effortlessly, give some decent hits for his size, and catch up with guys you thought would get a breakaway and disrupt their shooting attempts without getting a penalty. I think this season he tried to do too much by himself and it’s caused him to make too many mistakes. He will only get better, plenty more Norris trophies to try for in his future!

    • bishbosh

      With that logic, made the sens should trade Spezza to make Jacques go away.

  • karlssens

    Tough looking at the scoreboard..

    • Zelle

      Not sure what is going on with Colorado cause they were doubling SOG against CBJ and then fell asleep or something…

    • Sandy

      Wash losing.. but every one else we wanted to lose is winning.. I just can’t see the Leafs losing to the Flames..

      • Zelle

        I can the way they are playing right now. Not like a team wanting a playoff spot.

      • FistsofNeil25

        I can. The Flames are a better hockey team right now than the Leafs. Stupid Columbus though…

        • Sandy

          The Duchene injury for the Avs is a biggy..

      • CUP 2014-15

        1-1 I can see it make that 9 for old blue

        • Sandy

          Would make me feel happy..

    • Zelle

      Crazy goal by Stajan! Leafs playing very complacently right now.

  • karlssens

    C’mon! Toronto and Washington losing would be huge steps in the right direction!

    • CUP 2014-15

      Wash is sweet as we will close to one and as far as NJD and T.O. we need to win the games we have against them to have a shot anyway and that would put them behind us. Still nice to watch them all loose.

      • karlssens

        If Toronto loses tonight and we win tomorrow, that will give the boys SO much extra drive!

        • CUP 2014-15

          Agree, I think they could use seeing a couple of teams up top start to loose

    • Sandy

      I think Wash is toast…

  • CUP 2014-15

    So if your the Sens GM, what do you do with Milo and Hemmer in term and $. What kind of extension do you offer BR and JS or do you move them. Robin and EG are RFA’s, EG with arbitration. Dollars and term you would offer.

    • FistsofNeil25

      I like this…

      Hemsky – re-sign 3 years @ $ 14 250 000 (4.75 per)
      Michalek – re-sign 1 year @ $ 4 000 000 or 2 years @ $8 000 000
      Lehner – re-sign 2 years @ $ 3 500 000 (1.75 per)
      Gryba – re-sign 3 years @ $ 6 000 000 (2 per)

      Ryan – offer 6 years @ $ 40 500 000 (6.75 per) If he isn’t interested in re-signing, trade him this summer.

      Spezza – Trade

      Not sure how close or realistic any of that is.

      • Sensturion

        Again, as stated countless times, Hemsky is gone if Spezza is traded. No point keeping Michalek if Spezza is gone as well.

        • FistsofNeil25

          Uhhh you don’t think they could trade Spezza after re-signing Hemsky?

          The question was what would you do if I were GM of the Sens. The first thing I would notice is that this team is still a few years away from being a legitimate contender in the league, with or without some of the veterans on the team (Spezza, Phillips, Neil, Andy).

          The way I see it, our best chance of contending is when the likes of Turris, Zibanejad, Ryan, Lazar, Stone, Puempel, Karlsson, Ceci, Cowen, Lehner are all in their prime. That likely isn’t going to happen for a few more seasons.

          So when I take look at guys like Hemsky, Michalek, Spezza, I don’t see any of them being impactful players by the time the new core is ready to contend. So I would trade Spezza to cash in on a trade-able asset, and re-sign Hemsky and Michalek to short term deals as stop-gap solutions until our young guys are ready to roll.

          Same goes for Andy, Neil and Phillips. Get what we can for these guys and finish the re-tooling while the new young core of Senators develops into a contender.

          • Sensturion

            Hockey may be a business, but you don’t sign a player on the grounds that he’ll be playing with someone and then turn around and say “Well, turns out we were fucking with you and we traded that guy. We own you now, whether you like it or not.”

            That’s low. Bryan Murray also isn’t that type of GM.

          • FistsofNeil25

            That’s not how things work though. A player doesn’t sign with a team on the condition of playing with a specific player…. and teams won’t promise players that they will get to play with other specific players. That is ridiculous.

          • Jacques

            I agree bro, Sens tell Hemsky you’ll play with Zibby here’s a nice pay check, and by the way when 19 isn’t in the lineup we’re a top 4 team in the East! There that’s how you sign Hemsky and Milo.

          • FistsofNeil25

            See that’s where I disagree with you, I don’t think we’re a top team in the east with or without Spezza. I think we’re a few years away from that yet. I really feel like we’ll be a juggernaut once all our young lads hit their prime.

          • Jacques

            The East is pretty weak, I think with TUrris, and Zibby 1-2 with Ryan,Mac,Milo,and Hemsky all resigned. A third line of Hoffman-DaCosta-Stone and a couple of assets acquired for Spezz(maybe a D-man), and we’re pretty damn close.

          • Sensturion

            You’re dillusional.

          • Jacques

            Stop choking on Spezza’s ….. your eyes are watering! You can’t see the game. Clearly.

          • bluebuyyoo

            …and your blind hatred of Spezza invalidates any point you try to make.

          • FistsofNeil25

            I don’t see how those line combos fix our biggest issue: lack of team defense… and you aren’t gaining anything by subtracting Spezza and adding Da Costa haha

          • Jacques

            You’re keeping pucks out of the net the guy is prob the biggest liability out there. You get a good forward prospect and a solid D and it will help. You trade him for something. You resign him you might as well fire a bullet in this teams head. I find his D effort level an insult to the other players. Leader? He’ll skate like the wind for the puck when the other teams net is empty though! Bravo!

          • FistsofNeil25

            if you think Da Costa is a strong defensive player or a good 200ft player you are sadly mistaken.

          • Jacques

            Well I didn’t see him as a liability in the games he played this year. In the Past I agree but his game is much improved. Hell we have Pageau who can play center and Lazar too. Or you trade for a good 3 rd line center. Zibby to evolve has to play 2c.

          • Sensturion

            We squeaked into the playoffs last year without Spezza. Where are you pulling top 4 out of? Your ass?

          • Jacques

            You wouldn’t know a good player if you saw one, if you think Spezza is elite your lost! You must be watching the games through your arse!

          • Sensturion

            I’m not talking in a contract. Say you’re a player who’s looking to sign a contract. Pittsburgh calls and says: “Hey, we’d like to sign you and play you with Crosby.” Buffalo calls and says: “Hey would like to sign you and play you with Tyler Ennis.”

            Which team do you choose? Pittsburgh obviously. The whole point of signing there would be to play with Crosby.

            But then (for some ridiculous reason beyond anyone’s imagining) Pittsburgh decides right after signing you that Crosby is being traded. How are you going to feel about playing for Pittsburgh now?

          • FistsofNeil25

            I just have a hard time believing that’s how negotiations work. I think it’s more along the lines of “we’re really interested in adding you to our team. Here’s what we have to offer..” Players know who else is on what team and therefore know that there’s an opportunity to play with this or that player. It doesn’t always work out though.

            Say we do re-sign Hemsky and retain Spezza, it isn’t guaranteed that they’ll be playing together, especially with our coaching staff. Maybe Stone stays with Turris and Bobby moves up with Spezz, and Hemsky plays with Zbad, or Stone plays with Spezza and and Ryan with Turris.

          • Jacques

            I see it the same way as you Fists, but we’re not real fans unless we show our total adoration for all the players. I see the need to move 3 guys immediately. I as you, would sign Hemsky and Milo.

      • CUP 2014-15

        LOL, pretty damn close to what I have. EG and Robin exact. Had Hemmer and Milo at 4.5 ea, Hemmer 3 yrs and Milo 2. Ryan I had at 6.5 and resign Spezz 3 yrs 6.5. and I know, I know, your views and valid points on Spezz. On him we will just disagree, lol

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          If you can get Spezza for 3 years 6.5 mil total you would have to be smoking 10 pounds of crack to not do that…just over 2 mil a season?!!

          • CUP 2014-15

            LOL, Obvious to us hockey fans that is per. Keep up will ya, LOL

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Hahahaha I had a feeling I was reading that WAY too quickly(while doing 45 different things)

          • CUP 2014-15

            LOL

      • bishbosh

        I can’t see Michalek agreeing to a 1 year deal unless it’s properly stupid money.

        • FistsofNeil25

          Yeah the scenario above is just what I would like to see, it’s definitely not the most realistic thing to happen. I can see Ottawa offering him a one or two year contract but he’ll walk away from that and look for a longer term deal elsewhere this summer.

        • Kohlmanator

          Low salary, with bonuses. Similar to Iginla/Jagr.

  • Sandy

    Keep it going Buffalo.. up 2-1 in the 3rd over NJ.
    Not that it matters to the Sens standings… but I want Tampa to beat the snot out of the Habs… just because.

    • Zelle

      Avs just got one back too

  • Zelle

    Damn Leafs getting a lot of luck tonight.

    • Sandy

      Even if they win.. the other teams around them all have games in hands..
      The next 3 games for the Leafs are Boston, Tampa & Winnipeg… followed by Florida (lets hope Lu’s back) and the Sens..

      • Zelle

        Very true. And wow another nice goal by the Flames. I think they will become a good club with all these young players.

  • CUP 2014-15

    bad news Buff NJ tied at 2, good news Col and CBJ tied at two. Nice comeback by Avs lets hope they steal that point

  • Sandy

    Colorado won..but Columbus got a point.

    • CUP 2014-15

      Down 2-0 in the 2nd and come back to steal a point is like Gold as CBJ holds the tie breaker. A win tomorrow night and its 3

      • Sandy

        Columbus is the only team anyone can catch.
        I think Detroit is a lock to make it..

        • CUP 2014-15

          I know the wings kids are playing well with all their injuries but they do have Bost, Buff and Car at home and on the road in Buff, MTL, Pitt and ST. L. That’s no walk in the park.

          • FistsofNeil25

            They’re getting a big boost with Datsyuk coming back this week.

  • thepez

    All I know is this scoreboard watching is nerve racking….

    Btw if anyone has channel 369 on rogers the Pete’s and Frontenacs are going to OT in game 7 of their series.

    • Sandy

      Watching the OT now.. Really exciting.. Should have watched this game..

  • Sandy

    Pitt loses 4-1 to Carolina — and the ‘Canes were back to back.
    Looks like it would be Pitts & Detroit in the first round of the playoffs. I don’t have faith in either Fleury or Howard… should be an interesting series..

  • Sandy

    Laffs won.. Win 1.. lose the next 3..

    • Zelle

      Avs pulled off an OT win to steal 1 point from Columbus though!

  • FistsofNeil25

    Leafs won and Clarkson scored the game winner. Plan the parade and build a statue of that man!

    • CUP 2014-15

      Make that a 5.35 million dollar statue. Give the man what he’s worth

  • Sensturion

    How the off season will play out for Ottawa:

    - Spezza will be retained, but will not be negotiated with until late into the 2014-2015 season to see how he plays in a contract year.

    - Hemsky, will sign a 1 year deal worth 4.5 million. Same situation as Spezza.

    - Michalek will sign for 1 year, roughly 3 million.

    - MacArthur will refuse to negotiate until he can better gage if it’s worth resigning in the off-season of 2014-2015. He’s already stated that when he signed in Ottawa he expected big things from the team.

    - Methot will be resigned for a couple of years, between 3 and 4 million.

    - Ryan will wait and test out the free agent market at the end of 2014-2015. Murray will test the waters in the off season to see if it’s worth trading him for assets before the season.

    - Lehner will be re-signed quite easily, 2 to 3 million for 3 seasons.

    - Hoffman will not be re-signed. Neither will Da Costa.

    - Gryba will go to arbitration and manage to get 2.5 out of Ottawa.

    - A compliance buyout will be used of Greening.

    - Condra will be placed on waivers.

    • Sensturion

      Line up:

      Milo – Spezza – Hemsky
      Mac – Turris – Ryan
      Lazar (9 games) – Zibby – Stone
      Neil – Smith – Condra (or Greening – one of them has to go to make some room)

      Karlsson – Methot
      Ceci – Weircioch
      Cowen – Gryba
      Philips

    • Sandy

      Melnyk is NOT buying out any player..

      McArthur had a career year in goals… I think he re-signs..

      • Sensturion

        Cheaper than paying a guy not to play. We already know there are few teams interested in Condra and Greening.

        • Jacques

          Who?

          • Sensturion

            I said there ARE FEW, not A FEW

          • Zelle

            You did type ‘a few’ in his defense, even if you meant to say ‘are few’.

      • Sensturion

        “Maybe we all thought it was going to be a little bit easier because they did such a great job without the top guys,” said MacArthur, who signed as a free agent on July 1 with the expectation of making the playoffs.

    • FistsofNeil25

      So we’ll have Spezza, Ryan, MacArthur, Hemsky, Michalek, Zibanejad, Stone, Anderson all on expiring contracts. And somehow I don’t think poor man Melnyk is going to use a compliance buyout on Greening.

      • Sensturion

        Yeah I changed that, but the edits aren’t registering. Zibanejad isn’t an issue because Ottawa holds his rights. Same with Stone. I don’t think Anderson will be re-signed, depending on Lehner’s game next year. Also, the reality right now is all those players need new contracts no matter what. That’s a lot of work to do over the next year, either way.

        • FistsofNeil25

          It’s just bad asset management to have the risk of Spezza, Michalek, Hemsky, Ryan, MacArthur all hitting UFA status at once.

          I also don’t understand why Hemsky and Michalek would sign one year contracts at their age with their injury history. This may be their last chance for a big pay day.

          • CohMa

            Hemsky and Michalek are the only UFAs this year. Ryan, Spezza, MacArthur and Methot are all UFAs next year.

          • FistsofNeil25

            Yeah I know but my above comment was a response to Sesturion’s scenario above, where we would sign both Michalek and Hemsky to one way deals, therefore becoming UFA’s again next summer along with Spezza, Ryan, Mac etc

          • CohMa

            Oops… Read this comment before the original above.

    • Jacques

      Most ridiculous scenarios ever, Murray would be shot on all fronts as would the players agents! Guys signing one year contracts in their thirties??? MaCArthur will be resigned book it. Why would Hoffman not be resigned. Spezza is gone at the draft.

    • bishbosh

      In the scenario of moving Greening or Condra – it makes more sense to move Greening. You’ll likely get more in return and it frees up more $$$

  • CUP 2014-15

    Buff steals a huge pt from NJ. 9 rounds of SO, Thank you Timmy and Buff.

  • Jacques
    • Sensturion

      Jacques: “I heard Wideman’s name a ton in those replays! That guy is gonna be a star in the NHL! He’s better than Spezza!”

      • Sandy

        He’s a D..

    • CUP 2014-15

      Outstanding. BORO highlight reel. The goalmouth scramble is a must see.

  • Sandy

    Did anyone watch the end of the Leafs game?

    What made Phaneuf go crazy at the end of the game. 2 min penalty + 10 min misconduct + game misconduct.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Knowing Celine he probably head-shot someone. Aren’t illegal hits to the game 2+10+game?

    • Zelle

      I watched the entire thing save for 3mins at the end to take the dog out… looks like I missed it :/

    • H POTTER

      With less than 10 second left and Cgy with the extra attacker he cross checks a player in front of his net. It’s a clear penalty. But he goes keeps jarring at the refs while going to the box and I guess he must’ve said too much…

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    So who else is kind of pumped that with a win tomorrow, we have some faith with regards to the playoff hunt? Two weeks ago, I was one of many that kind of doubting our playoff hopes and then the boys went on a role. So I am still gonna doubt the boys are gonna do the impossible tomorrow and I hope they prove me wrong once again, GO SENS GO BELIEVE

    • Zelle

      I have been doubting the Sens being in the playoffs for most of the season simply because they weren’t playing up to their potential. I feel like they finally are and I actually have some hope that they will sneak in there. I would be ridiculously excited if they did, if only to wear my jersey on game days. Either way though I am a happy fan watching them play for pride.

      • Moudy Mahfouz

        That is the thing, the recent play of late has given me hope and hope for a better season next year. With out d core yet to peak and a bit of improvement, I feel positive and will always be.

        • Zelle

          Exactly how I feel!

    • CUP 2014-15

      This one is a typical trap game, on a roll, low seed coming in on a back to back and MTL, NYR up next. I still think they pull this one out ant I believe Karl is a leader and as off as he was last game, I am going with him having a big night. The lads win tomorrow and the Habs game will bring out the best game of the season. Not one guy will take the foot of the gas v MTL, you can bank on that.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Not a horrible night for scoreboard watching. The good. Washington lost in regulation. I’ll consider NJ losing to BUF in SO good too (bc it’s BUF). The bad. CBJ get a point. So, we’re officially 5 points pack with same # of GP. TOR won. But, we are 4 points back with 2 games in hand. Their next game is BOS. We all realize we probably need to win all of our games for the playoffs (maybe we can afford to lose 1 or 2 points at most if other teams struggle). So, I’m not as worried about TOR. They’re not our biggest concern.

    • CUP 2014-15

      Ottawa has to win out to get in, maybe an OT loss. When they play NJD next week they can afford an OT win or shoot out win, otherwise they would have had to beat NJ in regulation as NJ holds the tie breaker.

      • James0079

        It’s still an extremely long shot but Ottawa’s Schedule down the Stretch isn’t that tough. NYI’s x 2, NJD, PIT (with their injuries), TOR, NYR and MTL. Now some of these teams aren’t pushovers but at least they don’t have to play Chi, Ana, SJ, Col, StL, Bos, etc…Either way, it’s wishful thinking that they get in, but their next 7 games are definitely winnable.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Good morning all. Detroit plays boston tonight. if they lose and we win, the next few games are going to be really interesting just 4 pts back of them. if everything goes as planned. BELIEVE

  • MethotToMyMadness

    Good morning Sens Fans, with the way things are going these days, Game Days are a happy occasion again. It’s nice to be part of it.

    But, as the Sens were watching the scoreboards last night, we continue to see the teams ahead of us making small jumps. These 1 point games are killer. Sens have 78 points and even a win tonight, leaves them in the exact same position they are in now, as I don’t believe they would pass Jersey if tied at 80 points. I’d have to look at that further.

    The other big factor, we have the same games remaining as both Detroit and Columbus who own the 2 wild card spots and the Leafs are just behind them both after the win last night. So while we want those teams to lose so the Sens can catch up, we also want them to win in order to stay ahead of Toronto. So we find ourselves in a sticky situation. I guess the best scenario is for all those teams to lose, but that just won’t happen.

    So that being said, let’s just enjoy the rest of the regular season and then bring on the Playoff pools. I don’t know about you guys, but I have a history of doing much better in playoff pools when the Senators are not involved, because I don’t feel any ties to picking Sens players, lol.

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      Whenever a playoff pool is created, please inform me, I would love to join and beat all you sens fans hahaha (all jokes aside)

  • Miguel

    Can someone please explain to me how we can accomplish this with a budget team
    Hemsky – 4-5 years at least 20 Mil
    MM9 – 3 years 12 Mil
    extend Ryan – 5 yr – 30 Mil
    Methot – 4 yr – 15 Mil
    Spezza 5 yr – 30 MIl
    plus Anderson, EG
    I like that we all talk about keepiing all of them, but I can assure you that each of them will get more $$$ to sign elsewhere.
    Sorry but we will not be able to keep them all,
    But at least we have CP4 for the next 2 years :-)

    • spezzerman

      new season, new phase, new plan, new budget?
      Find someone you love and give them a hug.

      • Miguel

        need more than just a hug… New Budget???? wow did not realize you were actually the Euge. Thanks

        • Hax

          I think what spezzerman was getting at is that “budget” is not necessarily the same thing as saying we can’t spend more in the future. Budget, when you run a big business, is typically a spending plan which could very easily include the ability to spend more when necessary or appropriate.

          I think most people have assumed (or hoped depending on their point of view) that the plan from back when Fisher and Kelly were traded away was to spend very little for a few years and grow our prospects but then spend some more when the time was right to compete. i.e. save money first then spend later.

          There’s still limits I’m sure, we’re not the leafs, but to think there’s some room to keep most or even all those guys is not unrealistic.

          Besides, the numbers you’re tossing out aren’t even raises compared to what some are making now.

          • spezzerman

            I also think Miguel could use a hug.

            missed you Hax. this summer will be telling as to what the team is willing/able to spend.

          • Hax

            For sure it will be interesting. Lots of decisions and Miguel isn’t wrong when he suggests that some guys may leave for more money elsewhere. Even if everyone is willing to stay we’ve got too many NHL bodies so there will be a different look next fall no matter what.

    • Sensnation

      Methot, Anderson, Ryan, Spezza are signed for another year, there’s nothing forcing them to be re-signed this year. The only real question is whether Hemsky and MM9 are signed or if Hemsky will replace Michalek on the roster. If it’s the later then pretty much same cost as this year, if we keep them both then they need to find an extra 5-7 mil which will come from extra revenue deals no problem.

      Miguel you’re like the boy crying wolf every f’n day! Just wait and see what happens, this team will have no problem affording the players they want to keep, they’ve lined it up that way.

  • Hax

    If Washington wins their game-in-hand they have over the
    leafs, they’d have 83 points.

    If New Jersey wins their game-in-hand they’d have 82 points
    but more ROW than the leafs.

    If the Sens win both their games-in-hand in regulation, we’d
    have 82 points and more ROW than the leafs.

    I know it’s not likely those teams will win all their
    games-in-hand but it’s possible – and it would drop the leafs to 6th
    in the wild card race.

    Happy thoughts!