Important Free Agent Decisions Ahead

SensChirp April 20, 2014 298
Important Free Agent Decisions Ahead

With Thursday’s rant out of the way, I’m ready to shift the focus back to the on ice product.

No matter how frustrated we may get with Ownership, we can still be confident in the fact that we have a number of smart hockey people in this organization that are working tirelessly to keep this team competitive with in the existing realities of their financial situation. And this off season, those smart hockey people will have a number of important decisions to make, beginning with their own unrestricted and restriced free agents.

Let’s begin with the unrestricted free agents.

As of July 1, Ales Hemsky, Milan Michalek and Matt Kassian are all scheduled to hit the open market.  Murray sounds like he already made one of those decisions, indicating in his season ending press conference that Matt Kassian was not in the team’s plans and that Ottawa wasn’t necessarily in Kassian’s plans either.  So by the sounds of things, the tough guy has played his last game in a Senators uniform.

When it comes to both Hemsky and Michalek, I really do feel like Murray has interest in keeping both of them, especially Hemsky.  Although based on comments made by Hemsky during his season ending media availability, he sounds like he’s ready to test the market come July 1.  And there will be lots of teams interested. I wouldn’t rule Ottawa out but it does seem like a longshot at this point.

Milan Michalek is a little harder to read.  He sounds like he has legitimately enjoyed his time in Ottawa and would be interested in coming back.  Whether or not Ottawa is willing to make a competitive offer to retain his services remains to be seen.  Michalek would likely have some options on the open market and at this stage in his career, would likely want to see what those options are. Joe Corvo, Patrick Mullen, Tyler Eckford, Alex Grant, Nathan Lawson and Jim O’Brien are also headed to unrestricted free agency.

Some interesting decisions to make with the restricted free agents as well.

That group includes Robin Lehner, Eric Gryba and Mike Hoffman. Obviously the Senators have interest in bringing all three back.  At the start of this past season it may have been another story with Hoffman but he really proved he can play at the NHL level during his 25 game audition this season.  Robin Lehner is a prime candidate for a “bridge” contract, something short term in the 1-2 year range at about $2.5 million.  Eric Gryba is coming off a good season and seems to have solidified his spot on the blueline although things figure to be a little crowded back there this season.

The team will have a ton of decisions to make at the AHL level with a lengthy list of restricted free agents including Stephane Da Costa, Derek Grant, Cole Schneider, Wacey Hamilton, Dave Dzurzynski, Corey Cowick, Michael Sdao, Ben Blood and Chris Wideman.

So who stays and who goes? A full list of Ottawa’s upcoming free agents can be found over on Cap Geek.

  • Deadly

    Thanks Chirp,Enough is enough was really enough for now.
    Looking forward to the off season and particularly the B Sens playoffs.Hoping for a good run.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Da Costa is an interesting one for me. He’s definitely got some talent and he’s most likely seeking a one way contract. Is their room in Ottawa for him? Turris, Zibanejad, Smith and Pageau all seem to be ahead of him on the depth chart and Lazar’s time will come sooner rather than later. Spezza’s time is ticking and whether we keep him or not, I think we still need to add a good shutdown third line center.

    I think Da Costa will probably be playing elsewhere next season.

    • Deadly

      Matured and upgraded his strength too late to be a Sen. Still think he will be in Buffalo.

      • sprucesens

        yeah, i was thinking he would end up in buffalo. Sadly we won’t get much for him. And he’ll probably end up doing great next year.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    Lehner – 3 year deal at 2.25, 2.5 and 3.0M

    Hoffman – 2 year deal at 1.3, 1.5M

    Gryba – trade or walk, too many 1 way contracts next season

    Hemsky – 4 year deal at $5M flat each year

    Michalek – walks away to PHX to play with his bro

    Da Costa – 3 year (1 way deal) at 1.25, 1.25, 1.75

    • WaitingSince92

      You put a lot of faith in Hemsky…

      • Dirk-Diggler

        If you want to have a legit chance at signing him then you have to put some faith in him.. He’s not going to accept a 1 year deal!

    • sprucesens

      i think this is all reasonable, but i just don’t think we will keep da costa. not because we don’t want him, but he’ll want to go somewhere where he’ll have a shot at the NHL. I guess if we don’t get a C back in the trade for spezza, he could play 3C with turris and zib as 1,2. I’d be ok with that. I really think hemsky will walk though. Based on comments, i bet he follows spezza to wherever he goes.

      • runningbear1974

        Interesting… DaCosta could replace Spezza’s spot… They’re both kind of fancy pants types…

    • Sandy

      If they aren’t keeping Spezza.. then Hemsky is not signing with Ottawa.

      • spoons

        and you/people know that how?

  • Millennium

    If Boro is the 7th, Gryba’s gotta be the most expendable D man not named Phillips.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Our blue-line is sooo crowded with bottom pairing guys. Cowen, Gryba, Wiercioch, Phillips, Boro… so bad.

      • WaitingSince92

        I feel this was our biggest problem all year. Maybe team defence is close, but we need a viable second pairing, not one where we hope and pray that a couple of guys can make big steps to fill roles… we tried that already…

      • runningbear1974

        Karlsson xxxxx
        Ceci Methot
        Gryba Wiercioch

        It’s not too bad if you look at it right…

        • Ruth_Crisp

          Cowen isn”t going anywhere.

          • Matthew Rutldge-Taylor

            Cowen will have to work really hard this summer to earn a spot in the top 6 D.

    • runningbear1974

      I would love to trade Phillips before his no trade clause kicks in… (I have no idea if he has or will have a no trade clause)…

  • aegiszx

    It’s pretty clear from his interviews that he’s looking to go to a legit contending team… I don’t blame him man after being jerked around in Edmonton… Had we made the playoffs, I’m sure he would be leaning more towards staying, but what can you do. It was great while it lasted!

  • I’m just sayin’

    Remeber why Ottawa went out and got Kassian in the first place ?

    After being punked by a couple of goon teams next season the Senators
    willl just have to replace him

    • Aaron 2.0

      Not many of those guys left though, on any team.

      • runningbear1974

        We were getting gooned by Pittsburgh, Boston, western teams…

        • Sandy

          You need a tough player that can play hockey… Kassian is not that. Boston has tough guys but they can play.
          Murray seemed pretty sure of who he wanted.. I would assume that would be by UFA…

          • runningbear1974

            I agree… I like Kassian, nice guy… But, we’re at the point of stepping up our team… I felt reassured listening to Murray…
            We could get a great UFA…. And also trade for someone… 2 players could make a big difference…

  • WaitingSince92

    I don’t think Murray ACTUALLY wants Michalek back. I think he wouldn’t mind him back a $2.5 – $3m, but Michalek probably wants to be back at something similar to his last contract – ie not going to happen on a budget.

    Kassian seems like a really nice guy, but he doesn’t have even close to the speed or skill (or any other asset, for that matter) to play a regular NHL shift. He should be a boxer, not a hockey player.

    If Eklund says Spezza to the Leafs, you can count on it NOT happening. Don’t recall EVER seeing a prediction he’s made come to fruition.

    • I’m just sayin’

      Eklund is actually pretty accurate vis-a-vis the Flyers
      Most of the rest of his stuff is there to generate page hits

      • WaitingSince92

        I’ll take your word for it, although I remember him being wrong several times about each of Simmonds, Richards and Carter. A lot of wrong…

    • do due dew doodoo

      Spezza for Kadri

      • FistsofNeil25

        I never want to see Kadri in a Sens uniform.

        • WaitingSince92

          I don’t think the Leafs have the return we’re looking to get for Spezza. I just don’t see it happening.

          • do due dew doodoo

            Kadri – first round pick – prospect ?

          • Jakester

            I would take it. Spezz with the Laughs might net us Mcdavid!

        • do due dew doodoo

          BM would have drafted him ahead of Cowen if he had still been available

      • Dirk-Diggler

        I hate Kadri, but it’s because he’s effective at what he does. He draws more penalties than he takes, he has a ton of skill and he’s a dirtbag. He’s the kind of guy that opposition fans hate but fans of the team love. He comes to play every night and does whatever it takes to get the win. He’s in the same category as Gallagher or Marchand.. He wears a stupid shit eating grin and loves to get under your skin. He would become a fan favourite in no time…

        • Zelle

          Gallagher is way better than Kadri.

          • Jakester

            No, Kadri is much more talented offensively than Gallagher. I hate both of those bastards!

    • Sandy

      Do you honestly think Murray would trade Spezza to their biggest rival that they play 6 times a season.
      Now he has Leaf fans on that site.. saying Spezza wants to play in Toronto and has wanted to for a long time..

  • do due dew doodoo

    Yostenstein end of season report cards for forwards is here
    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Travis-Yost/End-of-Year-Report-Cards-Forwards/134/59539

    a much better read than the one Boo Boo put out last week

  • Uncle JOe

    Man all of you are milking this ‘internal budget’ ‘Melnyk has no money’ so much. I meant to write this last post but seriously. Having a budget is a GOOD THING!! At home do you seriously just spend all your money right away? Like, no savings, no planning.. just spend. No.

    Getting Mechalek at no more than 2.5 – 3.0 mill. will not be a ‘budget’ thing. Its a smart hockey move. He is not worth more than that. I like the guy, when he plays. But the ‘internal budget’ will have no factor into how much he gets. Would you give Mechalek 5 mill per season just because we can spend to the cap? I doubt it.

    I know my post is more for the last blog.. but lets think about this, because Murray also has a big decision in how he spends Melniks money. And he is really good at it. I do not think getting 2 or 3 guys, at maximum salary for the maximum amount of time (what is it? 8.5 for 8 years?) is a wise decision. Everyone gets milked at free agency.. why do you think we almost never sign anyone? Because Murray is a smart man and does not spend money for nothing. Like, Brian Campbell, Ottawa was in on him but Murray did not want to give him the contract that he got. Was that a bad move? 8 mill per year for Campbell? How about Cammalleri.. Ottawa was in on him also, he signs in Montreal for 6.5 (i think) mill per. I’m for one glad we are not spending that on Cammalleri. Parise was one of the latest ones. I would of LOVED to see him come to Ottawa. But what is it? 7.5 mill for 13 years or something like that!!??? Holy shitballs batman. That’s way too long of a contract for a hockey player and we all know this. All disappointing at the time but a relief now that we look at it a few years after.

    All I’m saying is bitch all we want about Melnik ‘not spending’ on players, this is actually a good thing guys. I’m sure they will get the right guy for the right price when need be. Does that mean we are going to sign a superstar free agent? Probably not.. someone somewhere will give him way too much for what he is worth.. caughClarksoncaugh. Anyways Melnik SAVED OUR TEAM! and yet, we are here bitching at the way he wants to spend his Millions of dollars? Yet we have a great team? We are in the middle of a rebuild. This year was a step back for everyone lets not jump ship because of a little deck fire.

    And now, to address what I think will happen. Spezza will get traded and that will be the main reason Hemsky does not sign with us. Lehner, Hoffman and Gryba sign. Michalek won’t sign seeing we wont give him anywhere close to what he wants (with reason). DaCosta might be signed to stay in the minors but I think they will let him go and try his hand somewhere else.

    I wonder if I wrote too much hahaha

    • Dirk-Diggler

      I think you are missing the point.. The internal budget is preventing Murray from icing the best possible lineup that he could create. I agree that spending stupidly is not a good idea. But not having the ability to spend (even smartly) is putting yourself at a disadvantage..

      • do due dew doodoo

        Indeed – replacing Gonchar with someone better than Bargain Bin Corvo or keeping Alfredsson would have been enough to get this year’s team into the Playoffs

    • Doc

      I don’t want to seem rude, so please don’t take this the wrong way, but you are clearly misinformed on a lot of fronts.

    • Uncle JOe

      I know what everyone is saying. But what makes you think that the ‘internal budget’ is preventing Murray from icing the best possible lineup? Sure we could’ve used another D this year. And I’m sure Murray will get another D this summer. But I’m sure Murray, like the rest of us, though Cowen would do better. Like, that was rough. And well Weirchoch (sp.).. that might of been a little more of a coaching error. So in light of that, what do you think Murray could of done this year, once we all figured out the team was in trouble?

      Do due, would of of gave 5 million for 2 years to Gonchar thinking that Cowen, Weirchoch, Gryba, Boro where all coming down the line? Gonchar saved our ass last year, but before all the injuries I don’t recall many praise for Gonchar on these boards.

      And Doc, I never take anything the wrong way. You have your opinion and I have mine. I fail to see how you think i’m misinformed on all fronts.. I think it is more of us having a different opinion on a few of my points.

    • sprucesens

      i agree on some points, but i think murray would have loved to have the players you listed, at the salary they got. Campbell, cammy or parise would have all been excellent signings. I still think murray will go after cammelleri this offseason at around 6 mill per 3-4yrs. I think the biggest problem would have been term, with any of those guys though. That’s too big of a gamble for a team/owner to make that a player will be excellent for years to come. One major injury and we are spending money on nothing. While the big teams can afford that, the sens can’t. See DiPietro. Personally i think max contract length should have been 5 years, 10 mill per max. But thats up to the crazy owners and players i guess.

      • Uncle JOe

        I do not think that Murray did not have the OK to sign those players. I think Murray just did not want to sign them at that price. You have to set limits or you’ll be had and that is why I like Murray.

        And besides that.. if you ask me.. this whole ‘money issue’ has more to do with Melniks divorce, which is just recent (2 years ago no?). Who says she isn’t running half the team? or who says he is not trying to buy her half of the Sens out therefore being a little more cautious with money in the meantime?

        Just scared most of you eh? hahaha

        Side not. from what I understand, we do NOT want Cammeleri.. and I’m ok with that.

    • WaitingSince92

      I could remove at least a few dozen posts of people equating not spending with spending wisely.

      Yes, you can spend money stupidly – but it doesn’t have to mean you’re a cap basement team. You can also spend wisely and to the cap – pretty much all the best teams do it.

      If I hear one more fan falsely equate the two… then I will do absolutely nothing… but still…

      And please, no more Colorado comparisons. I think it’s pretty obvious why they’re a special case (Duchene, MacKinnon, Landeskog – wait 3 years for a better idea of their cap situation)

  • 200Ft Game

    I think Murray must be loving how these playoffs are unfolding – he has LA, SJ and Minn circled as potential landing spots for Spezza… whoever loses out in the 1st round will want to make changes …. but I predict a deal that will be on the table will be Spezza and the rights to Hemsky to Minni for Coyle + Nino + a conditional 1st (based on resigning)

    Minni spends to the cap, can and will get Vanek which will convince both Spezza and Hemsky to resign with them thus enabling them to give up more than they wanted to while also keeping Granlund.

    Col. can’t keep both Stats and O’Reilly, so I also predict Murray swoops in and pulls a Turris type deal to get O’Reilly with Mini’s 1st + Hoffman + ….

    Leaving it also then possible to go grab Stewart with Prince +

    McArthur (3.25) – Turris (3.5) – Ryan ( 5.1)
    Niederreiter (3.25) – O’Reilley (6.25) – Stewart (4.15)
    Coyle (.900) – Zibanejad (.894) – Stone (.603)
    Smith (1,887) – Pageau (.650) – Neil (1.9)

    • Uncle JOe

      I don’t think Minni can afford Vanek, Spezza and Hemsky (they are at like 52mil next year leaving only 19mil for them to spend). But I do hope you are right and that does up the price on Spezza.

      I am not sold on Stewart yet.

      • 200Ft Game

        They can afford it, since Heater comes off the books… and their defence is very cheap, young and good (Suter being the exception to cheap)….and from last year you can see they are easily able to spend to the cap for their team (real money 14 million to both Suter and Parise this year)

        • Uncle JOe

          52 mill is their commitment for next year (with Heatly and Moulson amongst others off the books).

          I’m sure they will go for Vanek, although I was under the assumption Vanek wanted to go to Montreal.. I doubt they would trade for Spezza.

    • sprucesens

      man, watching mackinnon last night, i’d give spezza, rights to hemsky and 2016 1st for him. Amazing talent. Think hoffman speed with spezza hands. Colorado would never do it, obviously. More about colorado above…

      • Zelle

        He is a fantastic player no doubt Colorado will hang on to him for as long as possible.

        • sprucesens

          yup, agreed. Maybe we could pry out duchene?? nah. i’ll just do that in NHL 15

          • Uncle JOe

            Duchene.. man that would be something eh!? hahaha Mackinnon is absolutely nuts.. and Landeskog (sp.) too. I remember being in a bar, having lunch, and Murray was there. He was saying that he would only trade our pick (that we got Zabinajab.. was that a 4th or 5th? i forget) if it was to move up to get Landeskog.

          • sprucesens

            zib was 6th, strome went 5th to the isles. yeah, murray was high on landeskog, and it was well known.

    • Sandy

      With the way Coyle has been playing.. I don’t think Minny gives him up..

  • Zelle

    Without Spezza retaining Hemsky isn’t as important. Without Spezza and Hemsky, one would think they would want to retain Milan and have the money for it. The team is a bit bare on left wingers.

    2. Michalek – Zbad – Stone
    3. Hoffman – Smith – Condra

    There is no way they will let Lehner walk at this point. I think the biggest question mark is Gryba.

  • Zelle

    So apparently Jackets don’t have a captain? Like another poster suggested, maybe Sens could do that next season if Spezza isn’t staying.

    • sprucesens

      they could, but i don’t see why. They aren’t likely to be bringing in a captain via FA, so the captain is already on the team. It’s just a matter of giving him the letter, whoever it may be

      • Aaron 2.0

        I still think if Spezza is gone this is the way to go! No C next year. Sure, the player is probably already there. But, that player is young. Let the leaders emerge and grow into the role – There will still be leadership without a C!

  • Deadly

    As I watch these playoff series I can’t help but wonder what happened to the refs that worked the regular season. The hacking and hitting is worse than other years.

  • Zelle

    Oh wow a too many men on the ice penalty with 1:19mins left in the game and one goal down. Baaaaaad.

  • sprucesens

    watching colorado last night, i can’t help but see a team that let the young guys do what they were drafted to do. They are a super young core of top talent, and roy let them do exactly what they were drafted to do. I feel ottawa could do the same thing if we let the young guys just take the reigns. Such an exciting team to watch. They go from 2nd last to 2nd best in the west in 1 year. Their core: Stastny, Mackinnon, Landeskog, Duchene, OReilly, Parenteau, Johnson and barrie.

    I say we make our core for the future starting this year. It just appears we are at the point now to do it. Alfie is gone, gonchar gone, phillips here :(, spezza wants a trade, neil has declined, condra and greening both declined, michalek FA, Hemsky FA. Let’s make our core: MacA, Turris, Ryan, Zibby, Stone, Puempel, Hoffman, lazar, Karlsson, ceci, lehner with ??? around prince and da costa. Then fill in the vets where needed. Worst case is we grow as a team, and see who is gonna make it in the NHL, and get a high draft pick, possibly Mcdavid. Best case, we see what we have and become a super exciting 2way team with possibly 15 years of this team going forward!

    • Sensturion

      The difference is Colorado has been bad for a while and were able to draft well and develop well because of it. Ottawa doesn’t have the luxury of young players as good as Colorado has.

      • sprucesens

        mackinnon 1st, landeskog 3rd or 4th?, duchene, 3rd the rest equal to 1st rounders, johnson 1st but certainly hasn’t panned out to be worthy of 1st overall. We have drafted well also. Turris 3rd, zib 6th, lazar 15th, likely should have gone as high as 5 from the sounds of it. Karlsson 15th? and now looks like he could have gone 1st, and may have if teams could have a do-over. Ceci 10th. Stone, puempel and hoffman all top scorers drafted in 1st-5th round. I actually think our team could be built very similar, and has drafted very well.

        • Zelle

          Also at the end of the day I think chemistry and hard working, hard hitting teams will win out against extreme skill (Bruins v Pens, CBJ v Pens). Who knows what the Sens have in their draft picks unless they let them play.

        • runningbear1974

          I think there’s a bunch of other gems in our system who haven’t risen to the top yet…

    • Uncle JOe

      I agree fully. But like Sensturion says, we don’t have the caliber picks in our system that Colorado has. Although we do have some great players. I also don’t think we will finish towards the bottom anytime soon… but who needs that anyways? We got Murray hahahaha Best defencemen in the league at pick 15! He’ll find more gems like that I’m sure. I guess credit should go out to the scouting staff too..

      Like I said in my other post (kinda is what I was getting at) Lets keep calm! Its only going to get better. Just a bad year all around.

    • runningbear1974

      I really like this core…
      I would like Turris to be the mentor to all the lithe guys (hoffman, macarthur,dacosta)
      I would like Ryan to be the mentor to all the grit guys (Stone, Puemple, Zibanejad)

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    I wanan see Niskanen in a sens jersey. He has impressed me not only the 2 games in the playoffs, but throughout the season has played big minutes for the Pens and wasnt expected to take on this role so quick. I think he is an FA this summer.

    • sprucesens

      yeah, could see him as a target, depends on what happens with trades though

    • Uncle JOe

      haha I also agree.. I had him in both my pools this season! Not in the playoffs I feel Phily will beat Pittsburgh int he second round.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Lets go Alfie!

  • Zelle

    I thought this was so awesome I had to upload it:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3o4diRn1yc&feature=youtu.be

    Really hope we resign this guy!

    • runningbear1974

      Me too… Love Gryba…

      Karlsson xxxx
      Ceci Methot
      Gryba Wiercioch

  • WaitingSince92

    Kind of embarassing the number of people (not to mention the owner) who believe that fans just want to spend stupidly, for the sake of spending. No one wants this – where is this coming from? It’s pretty condescending when fans just want us to ice our best line up, and other fans assume they’re idiots who just want to spend. Don’t think I’ve met ANYone who wants to spend for the sake of spending.

    That’s just stupid, so can we drop that shit already?

    • HarvardYaleAndPrincetonMan

      16 teams who are spending more than Ottawa and are spending mostly wisely are in the Playoffs right now

    • runningbear1974

      Oops, the GM made mistake by rewarding Greening and Condra for last year’s play… We took a chance with Dacosta and Pageau… We acquired Kassian because we were getting beat up … We were going with young defense because they played so well last year…
      I was personally ok with the lineup coming into the season… (except for my prejudices)…
      Michalek Spezza Ryan
      Macarthur Turris Conacher
      Greening Smith Neil
      Dacosta Zibanejad Pageau

      I was fine with this lineup… I didn’t feel we needed to pay more for this lineup… There is no obvious upgrades to me…
      After this season though i would like some changes for next year… But it was ok… It doesn’t make sense to me to complain about money this year…

  • sprucesens

    also. wtf eklund. While i don’t doubt the spezza wants to play in toronto at some point in his career, there just isn’t the pieces in toronto to get spezza. Unless they are sending us kessel, or 3-4 1sts, we just aren’t going to send him to our biggest rival for the penuts in their system currently. That would be career suicide for murray, unless it was the only team he waive’s his NTC for.,

    edit: yes 3-4 1sts is overpayment, but thats exactly my point. If you want our #1C, you aren’t giving us rielly and kadri.

    • aegiszx

      It’s sports, if he wants to go to Toronto, and it’s the only place he will go, then we really have no choice. That’s why he has a NTC.

      I can get over Alfie going to Detroit… Spezza going to Toronto would be another story. Only thing that could be worse than that is Heatley and Cooke going to Toronto.

      • sprucesens

        yeah, it would be a complete disaster. I would assume Murray is pushing for any team in the west. But there is nothing to stop spezza from signing with toronto next year regardless. The only choice we do have, is to keep spezza and not trade him, but he could still sign in toronto after. Which is even worse than just trading him there. And if they know that, they won’t give up anything for him. So hopefully murray sends him west, gets good pieces, and spezza signs in the west also.

      • Zelle

        He would definitely get booed in Toronto.

        • sprucesens

          not likely. he’d get booed here for going to toronto

          • Zelle

            Sorry that’s what I meant lol Sens building would boo him if he played for Toronto.

      • peetypuck

        I think Spezza will sign with a contending team over Toronto.

  • Zelle

    I have to ask what’s the point of getting Kessel for Spezza anyway? Kessel isn’t a 200ft player, he isn’t gritty, he isn’t a leader, and he starts shit to hide behind his goons. Yeah he scores goals, but Spezza does that just fine.

    • aegiszx

      Kessel is a legit sniper… he can change a game if he wants to. I’d be much more interested in prying Gardiner or Riley but we already have Karl and Ceci.

      • Zelle

        No doubt he’s crazy skilled at putting the puck in the net and really fast, but does he bring anything that the Sens need? This season anyway the Sens have been good at scoring goals.

        • sprucesens

          yeah, but if you are trading spezza to leafs, you want their best player. Simple as that. I’m sure phil the thrill would be great as a 2nd line winger. But either way, i don’t want to think of any leafs on the sens, or vice verca

          • Zelle

            Let’s just hope it doesn’t come down to trading Spezza to TO…

    • Aaron 2.0

      I agree with you Zelle. If we trade Spezza, this isn’t really the type of deal I’m personally hoping for. I think we are passing the guard, if this happens. I’d be more happy with what I’ll call complementary pieces. I’d love to see a top-6 added with a decent all-around game. I’m less worried about trying to replace all of the points we lose with Spezza.

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  • whammer44

    Why would Spezza want to play in Toronto? If the media and fans are tough here, its 10 times worse in Toronto. Plus if he wants to win, can’t see the Leafs being on his list.

    It would make much more sense to go to a top end team in the west where the core is strong and he could blend in with less pressure

    • son of a Diefenbaker

      Spezza wants to play in Toronto because it’s his home town – simple as that

      • Sandy

        Then I assume the Sens can expect Boyle and Giroux to want to play in Ottawa?

      • whammer44

        and this comes from where?

    • Jakester

      Spezza has Maple leaf Jammies!

  • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

    Can we stop this? Toronto and Ottawa have never made a trade and it makes no sense to start with this. It would have to be a hockey trade that makes both teams better. Why would you make your Division Rival better? You think Toronto is ready to give up a position player (like Kadri) a yound prospect (like Gardiner) and a first round pick (top 10 this year)? It wont happen. I get the trade rumours – especially after a terrible season – but at least make it realistic.

    • Captain Nitpicker

      Ottawa got Damien Rhodes in a complicated trade with Toronto

      • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

        Yeah I guess … To me thats more a trade with the Islanders than with Toronto.

    • sprucesens

      yeah, its just eklund trying to urk us on. Unfortunately it worked

      • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

        I don’t know why we do this! According to Leaf fans – and Sports Media – every player is going to Toronto at some point. Remember back when Roenick was supposedly chosing between Ottawa and Toronto? Or Thornton before he was traded to SJ? Or more recently with Brad Richards and Rick Nash? You would think we would learn by now.
        Thought of another one – Roberto Luongo. Its crazy.

    • Jakester

      Trade them Spezza, it won’t make them better, Instead of giving up 45 shots a night it will be 55.

      • Brutus5247

        When Spezza retires he could start the worlds best Coaster business and supply Big Rig.

  • son of a Diefenbaker

    Binghamton 4th quarter grades here
    http://senshot.com/2014/04/20/binghamton-senators-4th-quarter-grades/

    A+ for Pageau, Stone and FREDRIK CLAESSON

    Jim O’Brien sent home – never to return ???!!!!!

  • Nick

    Michalek is a question mark. Each season, we do not know what Michalek will arise. He can score 40 goals as he can score 15. Regarding Hemsky of his injury history comes to overshadow his talent. If I were to replace Murray, I let him go both to make room for the young!

  • Nick

    Michalek is a question mark. Each season, we do not know what Michalek will arise. He can score 40 goals as he can score 15. Regarding Hemsky of his injury history comes to overshadow his talent. If I were to replace Murray, I let him go both to make room for the young!

    • runningbear1974

      Michalek is tough one… Everyone likes him… Nice guy… Tries hard… Persistent… But, doesn’t stop quickly, doesn’t make great plays, very poor vision, especially on the top line… Offer the Macarthur contract… Otherwise, offer the Macarthur contract to someone who would be grateful for it…

  • luckan20

    If Hemsky walks out, I can see Michalek retained by Ottawa. BM will like to have some veteran presence. It is highly likely Hemsky testing free agent markets. I can see him heading to Jersey or Nashville or San Jose.

    • 011010101010101010101010101010

      Hemsky will sign at below market value with a contender.
      He just went through Hell in Edmonton
      No way he wants to risk a long term deal with what could soon be
      Edmonton East

  • Brutus5247

    Am I the only one who thinks Claesson(left) takes Boro/Wiercioch’s(left) spot next year. My guess is BM is worried about Boro’s one way next year with the emergence of Claesson. He is the best all round defenceman on a good AHL team. They are not going to play any left shots on the right side, it’s just too easy to get burned to the inside. It just doesn’t work that way unless your last name is Gonchar.

    • sprucesens

      i think he can have a shot, but it requires trades first

      • Brutus5247

        There has to be trades on the left side. minimum 2

  • Brutus5247

    I think Toronto fans have a bigger beef than we do!

    They average $350 a ticket and didn’t make the playoffs and have a waiting list for tickets.

    We average $137 a ticket and didn’t make the playoffs and can’t fill the arena.

    So all you accountants out there who is doing better per dollar collected in revenue?

    • bluebuyyoo

      Spezza is a career +54. That’s over 12 years. Just sayin’

      • Jakester

        Living in the past.

        • bluebuyyoo

          Relax. I was replying to Brutus’ PPG claim. Go look it up. Your uninformed, biased interloping here is becoming legendary.

          • Brutus5247

            Why refer to distant past when recent past is usually more indicative.

          • bluebuyyoo

            Because you have to look at the big picture. Spezza played with plugs for most of the season. His past performance with regards to +/- indicates a very successful player. It is not unreasonable to expect that he would improve next year rather than decline.

            I find it pretty funny that most people discount +/- as a worthless statistic until they are looking to make a point that they cannot prove otherwise.

  • http://www.crashthenet.ca/ Luc Wolfe

    The only player I’d get for spezza would be another captain called Eric stall. He was rumored as trade bait. Cam ward is also another guy that could be leaving Raleigh.

    • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

      I don’t know – I would prefer a similar return to what brought Ryan here. Young Player/Prospect/1st rd pick.
      getting an older player back just recycles the same issues in a year or two (apparently, as we learn from the Spezza rumours, regardless of Contract Status)

    • luckan20

      Stall is a complete player. He also plays physical. It will be a big addition for Ottawa getting him in return. Spezza alone won’t get him because of the longer term nature of Canes captain’s contract.

      We could make it more interesting by sending Anderson, Spezza and a prospect for Stall and Ward.

      • aegiszx

        Well, that, and the fact that I highly doubt Canes management want to piss off Jordan, unless they can somehow convince him that they would be getting Marc. Remember, Jordan and Jared are there because of Eric.

        • Zelle

          That’s fine! Sens will take all three + Ward. Problem solved!

          • aegiszx

            Pfft, I’d take Skinner! He only he’s only been concussed 3 times already! What are the chances of another?!

          • Zelle

            Exactly! I mean everyone knows concussions have diminishable returns.

      • runningbear1974

        Stall gets paid 9 million a year… That’s too much…

  • Zelle

    There is a ridiculous amount of hockey to watch today and it’s beautiful.

    • Doc

      First round of playoffs is always awesome, but this year has been ridiculously good.

      God I love this sport.

      • Zelle

        Yes I am loving every matchup so far, although TBL-MTL leaves something to be desired. Not just because Montreal is up 2-0 but just too many mistakes both ways, no hitting, no goalie battle, just kind of meh.

  • hq8

    i think the presumption that ottawa has smart hockey people up front is kinda stretchy. yea we got some solid drafting and development guys, but i dont think we have the shrewd decision making ability especially in terms of signing and dealing.

    • Doc

      So that points to one guy. You dislike Murray?

      • hq8

        i dont dislike Murray, just think he is very hit-and-miss with trades and other dealings. we all praise him for the Turris trade and rightfully so, the trade to get Bishop in the first place was also very very smart. but then the trade for Conacher, giving in to Cowen a bit too soon i think after he held out (look at what Mtl did with Subban). the deal to Greening.

        dont think overall judgement can be made, but signings and trades are not his strength

        • peetypuck

          So you didn’t like the MacArthur signing, the Turris trade and contract and Bobby Ryan? What about the 1st round pick for Fisher? How about the trade for Methot?

          • hq8

            no those are all pretty solid ones – and i guess i overlooked those. was basing my opinion on the bishop for conacher swing which i think was tricky and required him to be bolder.
            thats why I said overall judgement cant be made because it depends which one out of all of them ends up hurting.

          • peetypuck

            Conacher was only 1 small trade. Not a very good one but hardly what you would come to a conclusion about Murrays skill at trading.

          • Zelle

            The whole Conacher thing is seriously being blown out of proportion seeing as hindsight is 20/20.

          • Sandy

            Conacher was traded and Corvo loaned to the AHL to get the salary room to bring in Hemsky….

          • Zelle

            I actually liked Conacher, he contributed to a lot of goals without getting all of the points by playing a 200ft game and being a presence. I guess having him put on waivers means they couldn’t get anything from him or they figured no one would pick him up since they didn’t see any real potential. I think it was a mistake to let him go for nothing, especially if it was just to save some cash.

          • Zelle

            If you’re interested, these are clips from just a couple of his games:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRYJM5i_Lzc

            Yeah he wasn’t a point a game player or anything but I think a lot of the stuff he contributed went unnoticed. Couple of Pageau clips are in there too.

          • Jakester

            We also got Vincent Dunn in the Conacher trade.

          • runningbear1974

            Really? That’s great… Then it could still turn out to be great move :)

          • runningbear1974

            You know… To Murray’s credit… He didn’t hold on to Conacher just because he gave up an asset for him… Instead he looked forward and made a decision based on some sort of Identity for this team… By letting go of Conacher is like admitting he made a mistake… Which i respect… Also, i like his approach of get tons of prospects, to have leverage for trades and mistakes…

          • runningbear1974

            Oops forgot about Methot… Traded what i considered to be a un-stable type player in Foligno, for a stablilizing force in Methot…

        • runningbear1974

          It’s still too early to tell with Cowen and Greening… I thought Tim Murray dealt with Cowen…

          • Jonny

            Get rid of both, Cowen is too dumb and slow. Greening is a 3rd line plug getting 3Mil a season…

          • runningbear1974

            I actually agree with you… But that’s not a very nice way of saying it :)

          • Ruth_Crisp

            Cowen was scholarship winner in junior, Greening a stand out in college, what is your claim to fame……….nothing?

    • runningbear1974

      We got Turris, Macarthur, and Bobby Ryan… All great players… Someone identified these guys as worthy of acquiring… I trust that guy..

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    wow that introduction was nuts. montreal knows how to do it

  • karlssens

    Would you guys trade Spezza for Dustin Brown and a first? Seems like a trade that makes sense for both sides.

    • Aaron 2.0

      He’s a career 0.58 PPG in 751 GP. We all know what other important skill sets he can bring. But, his number from this season are pretty scary. Only 27 points in 79 GP this season. Yikes.

      • karlssens

        I’m not worried about our offense going forward if we can retain at least one of Hemmer or Michalek. It’s his work ethic and leadership that would be valuable for this team. Plus the first.

        • Aaron 2.0

          Yeah, if we lose Spezza, I’m not expecting someone of the same calibre from a point-production stand-point. But, the 0.34 PPG this year is really bottom-6 sort of production. It’s tough if that’s the cornerstone of the Spezza trade. Maybe there was something going on this year with him? I don’t know.

          • bluebuyyoo

            Whoa! Spezza was 0.88 PPG this year. 0.31 GPG.
            What is interesting is that of his 23 goals, 6 were scored when trailing by one, 10 when tied and 4 leading by 1. So, 20 of his 23 goals were scored when the team needed a goal the most.

          • Zelle

            I believe he is talking about Brown.

          • Aaron 2.0

            Thanks, used ‘he’ and ‘him’ too many times maybe in my posts. I’m talking about Brown! Small corrections made in my posts to clarify.

          • bluebuyyoo

            Yes he was. Thanks for pointing that out.

          • Zelle

            I didn’t mean any offense. It read like you were correcting his stats.

    • luckan20

      Brown will be a good leader, but not the guy who can create scoring options.

    • runningbear1974

      I like the idea of a guy who hits someone then bounces back into the play… It sucks when the guy hits the other guy, and then just stands there and watches the rest of the play…

    • Sandy

      LA is NOT trading him. I can see, however, them trading Mike Richards.

  • karlssens

    Also, I see Michalek coming back but I don’t believe Hemmer will come back.

    • Sandy

      This team does need more than just 3 top 6 players in Ryan, Turris & McArthur.. Signing Michalek.. then we will just listen to Murray all season say he is looking for a top 6 winger….

  • Zelle

    Lookin’ like Montreal might sweep the Bolts. Tampa is looking just horrible out there.

    • hq8

      made it on the back of their goalie and he is injured.

      • Zelle

        Lindback isn’t even playing that bad. The team in front of him is just handing the Habs turnover after turnover and creating very few scoring chances.

        • hq8

          yup, except bishop was just better enough to make up for the leaky team in front

          • Zelle

            I take it back that last goal was weak from Lindback. Not that the Bolts are playing great but Lindback is NOT a playoff goalie.

  • karlssens

    I miss senators hockey :(. Our Sens should be there. Not Tampa

    • Zelle

      I hear you, I’d like to think the Sens would put up a bit more of a fight.

      • Sandy

        The Sens would pound those little Smurfs into the ice … again…

  • hq8

    the simplest spezza trade would be to vancouver for Kesler, although you can see Tortorella pissing him off nuts within a yr.
    but again, hopefully BM has learnt from the bishop trade to not trade impact plyrs within the eastern conference

    • Brutus5247

      OMG! Is this the same Spezza who couldn’t play with anybody and played like it until Hemsky came. GREAT LEADERSHIP! Sounds like a spoiled rich kid who is asked to do some chores or get a job.

    • Sandy

      Kesler does not want to play in Canada…

  • karlssens

    All I know is that we need a trade that gives us a top 4 d man this offseason. We cannot go forward with that d lineup we had.

  • Zelle

    Tampa just scored on a really weak penalty to even up the game, that’s gotta sting.

  • aegiszx

    I think its pretty much agreed upon that any way you look at it, trading your no.1 C and a PPG player, is going to hurt. Spezza, Milo, and Hemsky combined for 122 points. Which honestly isn’t too hard to replace…

    Zibby put only 33 pts this year, and if he has a breakout year, can put up 50-60+ points…
    Ryan, Turris, and Mac can all hit 80-90 pts…
    Ceci will continue his rise and could easily put up 20-30 pts in his sophomore year…

    Plus whoever we are getting back/whoever we sign, should be 30-40 point guys at least.

    • Jonny

      Wow you really think any of Turris, Ryan, CMac can hit 80-90 pts each? I want what you’re smoking.

      • Zelle

        At this point I have to assume that it physically hurts you to express your contrary opinion without being condescending and insulting.

        • SENSsmile

          I suspect this is the same “little Jonny” that we used to hear so much from in classic dirty jokes.

  • karlssens

    Am I the only one who thinks subban is extremely over rated? I’d take Hedman on my team over him any day..

    • Zelle

      Hey now watch it, you’re talking about an elite player who was good enough to warm the bench on Team Canada while real defensemen won the gold medal.

  • karlssens

    Wha a terrible call…

    • Zelle

      Yeah I don’t understand what went on here. And that fucking ole chant…

      • Sandy

        That’s why I’m not watching.. I f’in hate the Habs… I would sooner watch Game of Thrones.. until 10:00 when LA & SJ play.. I watched the other 2 games today…

        • Zelle

          Refs are deteriorating in quality. Watching old Sens games and it’s still shocking some of the calls and make up calls being made. I can only assume it would be the same if I watched other teams.

        • SENSsmile

          Game of Thrones is certainly a lot less frustrating. At least, we know it’s a script, not a fraud.

  • bluebuyyoo

    Bolts are getting it up the ass from the refs tonight. Habs are getting away with everything and now good goals are called back.

  • Zelle

    No interference call on taking down Stammer? And then a player knees him in the head. And no goal. W. T. F.

    • Jakester

      Un f-ing believable! Can’t believe the crap reffing in this series! Although we see it every time the Sens play these arses!

      • Sandy

        The always seem to have a French Canadien ref do their games… Them a Pittsburgh seem to be in favour of the refs… It’s not even close…

  • bluebuyyoo

    Classy Habs fans boo Stamkos being helped off the ice.

    • Brutus5247

      Didn’t boo Lars!

      • bluebuyyoo

        No. They whined and cried until Gryba was suspended.

        • Brutus5247

          That was 100% Bettman who was at that game. He had to appease the French Fans.

          • bluebuyyoo

            Sorry, are you defending the Habs fans booing Stamkos being helped off the ice after being injured? Sometimes things are lost in text.

          • Brutus5247

            I hate the Habs. If that was someone else who kneed Paccioretti(SP) they’d call for a suspension. I cheered for the Russians in 76.

          • bluebuyyoo

            Bingo!

          • Zelle

            I’m a French fan and I am not appeased.

        • Jakester

          On a legal f-ing hit!

          • bluebuyyoo

            Absolutely. Suspending Gryba was a travesty and a make up call for all the missed Bruins calls that the Hab fans felt should have been suspensions.

  • Zelle

    Delay of game…

  • Jonny

    Yep I’d take PK over EK right about now…
    Solid defensively, hits, skates and is able to do what he just did…WOW!

    Hate the Habs but luv PK!

    • karlssens

      Wtf

    • Sandy

      You would take a (P)retend (K)arlsson over the real thing?

      • Jonny

        Sandy I love EK too, probably the best offensive defenseman in the game right now but his defensive skills are VERY lacking. Sure he can score and drive the offense but he was -25 something…lol He was as responsible for teams scoring on us more than they should have.

        With PK you dont get the defensive brainfarts, IF EK could shore up his defensive game ALOT, then ya he’s the clear cut fav but right now PK is probably better overall defenseman.

        We need stability on the back end, Karlsson only plays forward.

        • sprucesens

          he was -15, and last 2 years was a plus player (8,16). I’m fine with you making your point, but like i’ve begged before on this blog, don’t use +- as an indicator of defensive play. It proves nothing. It goes hand and hand with winning. If you want to use +- at all, compare it to how the team played. IE, the team was -29 in goal differential this year. karlsson being on the ice for half the game(30 mins a night) and only being a -15, isn’t that bad. I’ll give you a list of + players on our team this year: Turris, MacA, Ryan, Gryba, Stone, Da costa. And 3 more were even. One of those was cowen, and i certainly don’t think you could say he had a good year defensively. Also 5 were as bad, or worse than karlsson’s +/-. So like i said, you are entitled to an opinion, but +- is the worst statistic in hockey, unless there is a clear differential from the rest of the team. IE turris being +22, and spezza -26.

          • Zelle

            Karlsson is amazing. To replace him with any defender would be a
            travesty. They should be look for a top two guy to compliment him as a
            number one priority. After a strong off season of training he will be
            King again.

          • Jonny

            When you score 60+ points and are a -15, it tells me that player is purely offensive and thats fine, what I’m saying has nothing to do with his offensive skills.

            You dont have to admit it if you dont want to but Karlsson is pretty much a forward playing D.

    • Jakester

      Step away from the hallucinogetics! You’re nuts!

      • Jonny

        Oh sorry if you prefer Condra and Greening…

  • Zelle

    I am really getting impatient now to hear about what will be the Senators roster for next season. Watching all this hockey I am reminded I won’t see my favorite players on the ice for months.

    • runningbear1974

      yeah… right now i’m pushing for
      Karlsson xxx
      Ceci Methot
      Gryba Wiercioch

    • Jakester

      Lazar is coming dude!

    • runningbear1974

      Macarthur Ryan Turris
      Puemple Zibanejad Lazar
      Hoffman Smith Stone
      Greening Pageau Condra

  • Brutus5247

    What does it take too get top talent in Ottawa?

    Stable Financially? XXXXX

    Great ownership? XXXXX

    Likely hood of winning? XXXX

    Top dollars? XXXXX

    Nice weather? XXXXX

    • Sandy

      The Sens have none of the above..

  • Sandy

    So IF Tampa loses tonight.. does Bishop play on Tuesday?

  • Jakester

    Edmonton Oil Kings win 3-1 two goals for our Rock Star Lazar! Our kid is on a mission!

    • karlssens

      Going to be Brad Richards 2.0 ;)

      • Jonny

        Thats a great comparison actually. And I would be histerical IF he turned out like Brad!

        • karlssens

          We can hope! :)

  • karlssens

    Did anyone see what Bobby Ryan tweeted?

  • Jason P.

    Anyone see the tweet Bobby Ryan deleted¿

    • karlssens

      I’m wondering the same thing!

    • Richard Gough

      Can you cut and past it .?

    • Zelle

      Maybe he’s out drinking? “To anyone who saw that tweet… Phone got hi jacked by a buddy for a second! Caught him and promptly deleted it! Sorry!”

  • karlssens

    Found it. He said “how is Tampa getting all this zone time in a 3-3 game.. Oh wait” lol.

    • Zelle

      Hopefully refs don’t follow twitter >.>

      • karlssens

        I didn’t think it was a terrible tweet..

        • Zelle

          As a fan, no. As a professional, shouldn’t be said.

      • Jonny

        I dont think they care to be honest, lol.

      • Sandy

        Do you think the refs really care? They have their agenda..

        • Zelle

          Dunno, but they seem to hold grudges against certain players, like Neil or Gallagher, so if you had some young player publicly insulting you like that maybe some might take offense?

    • Sandy

      He also said his phone was hacked by a buddy…

      • Zelle

        hijacked not hacked!

  • aegiszx

    Just curious but has a ref ever been fired?! Do they have NFC (No Firing Clauses)? I feel like this year theyve been absolutely horrible… It’s like the know that they dont have to be held accountable…

    • Jonny

      Its easy to critique when watching the game on slow mo. You’ve never reffed a game in your life, let alone the fastest game on earth. Do they make mistakes…yes, they make them all over the League, they are not robots.

      • Zelle

        There was nothing about that waived off goal that can be explained because it’s a fast game. Don’t need slow mo to know that was a good goal.

        • Sandy

          I didn’t watch the game.. but I assume that it was a Tampa non-goal? Have they ever waived a Habs goal?

          • Zelle

            Habs got plenty of waived off goals in the regular season but yes in this instance it was a Tampa waived goal. It especially sucks because Habs won 3-2.

        • Jonny

          Well there was contact with Killorn and Price and the ref felt like Price wasnt able to regain composure to make the save. Simple as that.

          • Jakester

            Habs fan hey!

          • Jonny

            Nope hate the Habs, like PK, 11, 27…

          • Zelle

            Unintentional contact. Habs player pushed him in the crease and he got out as fast as he could. Simple as that.

          • bluebuyyoo

            Contact was also made long before the goal was scored. If the ref truly felt that Price was interfered with, he should have immediately called a penalty.

          • Zelle

            Good point as well. In fact on the tying goal against the Senators the goal was allowed even though the extra contact on Lehner was intentional and there was no effort to move out of the crease.

          • Jonny

            The issue isnt when he went flying into the net, its when he tried to get out. Clips Price on his way out and impeded his lateral movement on the scoring shot.

          • Zelle

            Price had plenty of time to get back in position, in fact it affected him going back far in his crease not moving to the side. Price was in his position when the puck went in.

      • BFR

        Last time I checked, people watch the game at full speed. If a bad call is made, the slow mo only confirms it.

    • sprucesens

      better definition of NFC, No F@#$ CLUE. And YES, is the answer to that question.

  • karlssens

    Good article (surprisingly) by Garrioch on spezza. NTC is better than we thought. Spezza can only name 10 teams that he doesn’t want to go to.

    • Jonny

      Its the other way around I believe, Garrioch is a tool. Its 10 teams Spezza WILL allow a trade to.

      • karlssens

        Really? Well then my apologies haha..

        • Jonny

          Well I think so. Its always been that way with NTC’s. Spezza has full control. Why would he only have a list of 10 teams he doesnt want to go to. There are more than 10 bad team in the League but just about 10 really good one.

    • aegiszx

      Chirp just tweeted that… So can we speculate the 10 teams he wont go waive his NTC…

      Edmonton
      Buffalo
      Islanders
      Florida
      Carolina
      Nashville
      Phoenix
      Minnesota
      Calgary
      Winnipeg

      ???

      • karlssens

        Pretty confident with that list.

      • Zelle

        I’d add Vancouver as they are kind of going downhill as a team. Lost their two potential starting goaltenders, traded some key pieces, Sedins aren’t getting any younger, and now Kessler wants out.

      • SENSsmile

        Delete text.

  • hq8

    off topic, but as a sens fan, looking for moments that makes sens fans most happy (i.e. moments that make leafs fans unhappy), luke schenn getting a goal today was pretty good haha.

    • Sandy

      You could also say Steen is looking really good in St Louis now as is Rask in Boston…
      On the other hand.. Chara is always good in Boston as Hossa is in Chicago…

      • Zelle

        And MacArthur and Turris look good with the Senators!

      • hq8

        and havlat is a healthy scratch, Andre Benoit is having a great time with the Avs, Ray Emery won a game today, Mesjaros w/ Boston……

  • karlssens

    I think we can all agree the top trading partners would be:

    LA
    St. Louis
    San Jose
    Toronto

    • bluebuyyoo

      Trading partners will likely be more defined once the dust settles during the playoffs. There will be teams eliminated early that think that one more piece, like a skilled centre, will put them over the top.

      • karlssens

        Good point!

      • aegiszx

        Pretty much.

    • aegiszx

      I dont want to look into it TOO much but you think there are any hard feelings between SJ/OTT since the Heatley fiasco? I mean business is business, but I wonder what the state of Murray/Wilson’s relationship is right now… I would be interested in getting Couture.

      • karlssens

        We need to accept that we won’t get players like Couture for Spezza.. We will be getting young players back. Makes no sense for teams to give currents stars for Spezza.

        • Zelle

          I have no issues with getting Hertl ;D

          • aegiszx

            Not sold on Hertl yet… Could be Conacher 2.0 =|

          • karlssens

            Hertl was at least a first round pick

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        WHo wouldn’t love to get Couture you’d have to give a hell of a lot more than Spezza

    • sprucesens

      i could see the first 2, but don’t see the 2nd 2. Toronto could just try to sign him, if its true he wants to play there. SJ, i just don’t see spezza there. I still think he ends up on a middling team in the west, instead of a top team. But with the cap going up, it could happen

    • Mat

      Nah. I see a Canadian team. Winnipeg or Edmonton as frontrunners.

      • sprucesens

        i wish. Winnipeg and edmonton have some of the best pieces to get back, but i really doubt spezza waives to go to a perennial last place team, and winnipeg could be a tough sell also, since we’d likely be getting one of their better players in return.

      • not YOUR wingman

        WOW – Hello Captain Clueless

        Spezza would NEVER waive his NTC to go the either place

      • Jonny

        Spezza wont waive to go to those horrid teams.

    • not YOUR wingman

      Anaheim ?

  • hq8

    i know this time is different, but havent there been spezza trade rumors every offseason ever since BM became the general manager? i think last offseason was the first one where he was not a topic of conversation.

  • Mclovin

    San Jose is insanely good.
    People need to stay up and watch these west teams…hopefully Scrooge Euge as well to see the Sens are nowhere near the same quality.

    Colorado is flying too. Mackinnon…wow.

    • sprucesens

      yeah, the avs last night was an excellent game. They are perfect example of what can happen when you let the kids take the reigns, and play the way they have their whole lives, rather than forcing them to change their game. Love it.

      • Jonny

        Yeah no kidding, except we dont have any Duchene, Landeskog or Mackinnon’s in our system…

    • Jonny

      Yeah it makes me so sad to watch the Avs or Sharks…We are nowhere close to that and dont even have that kind of talent on our team either…

      We might get a good run at some high draft pipcks IF we keep playing like we have tho! McDavid would be an amazing piece to our rebuild.

  • Mat

    WOW!!! I hadn’t seen the cover of the Sun (and that’s a good thing in my books).

    If Spezza was on the fence about wanting to go, thanks to Booboo for punching in the last nail. And way to sell him publicly as “dented” too, you no good piece of shit!!

    Why do people buy what these fucktards are selling???

    • SensChirp

      So incredibly disappointed that they would publish that cover. The article itself I get, and is obviously something with approval from management. That cover is lower than low.

  • Spezza for Kadri

    Overthe last 2 seasons Kadri has scored more points than ANY Ottawa Senator

    • Jonny

      Yep and we have Cowen…

    • bluebuyyoo

      and he has been kissed by Don Cherry and he is now a CBC hockey analyst!

      • Jonny

        Kid is doing it all!

    • ZibbyFan

      And our top guys were injured last year. So how does that even match the fact that he’s a douche>

  • runningbear1974

    In my opinion the Sens have a major weakness in our leadership group… Spezza, Neil, and Phillips… All those guys make bonehead decisions…
    We are stuck as an organization until will get/create good smart veterans that can actually be mentors to the younger players…

    • runningbear1974

      Consider from the perspective of the coach… He would like to use his leadership group… What if you tell them not to take dumb penalties, and they still do… What if you ask them to follow a defensive plan, and they don’t… What do you do? Ideally the leadership group is an extension of the coaching group, and they can contribute with respect to strategy… ideally…

    • Captain Karl

      That is why we should sign Jagr for a year

  • Simple Jack

    Is hoffman another peter regin??? No room on this team for him if he is.

    • Deadly

      What are the symptoms to pre diagnose such a condition. I guess we will have to wait and see.

  • John_Q_Spartan

    Please, for the love of god, just walk away from Michalek …