Game Day- Slumping Senators Visit Tampa Bay

SensChirp March 24, 2014 368
Game Day- Slumping Senators Visit Tampa Bay

While the games don’t mean as much as they did a couple weeks ago, a loss is still a loss. And coming into tonight’s game in Tampa Bay the Ottawa Senators have lost 6 straight. They have been outscored 28-17 over that stretch and played some of their worst hockey of the season.

And even though the playoffs are now out of reach; this team still has to find a way to win a hockey game at some point. They’ll have a chance to right the ship tonight against the Lightning.

Ottawa will play a back to back against Tampa Bay and then Florida before returning home to play five straight. Fans realize that this team isn’t going to make the post season but it would be nice to see to end a dreadful season on a positive note. Not just for the players and the fans that support them, but to keep that first round pick as low as possible.

Paul MacLean would not divulge any potential line up changes but it does sound like Bobby Ryan is questionable for this one.  With Mark Stone up from Binghamton, you would expect him to take Ryan’s spot in the line up.  MacLean also hinted over the weekend that he would get Wiercioch into one of these games in Florida.  We’ll have to wait until game time to find out if that happens tonight or tomorrow in Florida.

Just an optional skate for the Senators this morning so combinations aren’t exactly clear at this point.

We do know that Robin Lehner will make another start in the Ottawa goal. Sounds like Craig Anderson will dress as his back up with Andrew Hammond returned to Binghamton earlier today.  Puck drop in Tampa Bay is scheduled for just after 7:30 PM.

  • Max Power

    So when’s Alfie gonna buy the team?

    • Spoons

      He’s busy buying the City of Detroit, it’s cheaper.

      • zBernatchez

        Not really they’re in trillions of dollars in debt lol

  • Sokz

    we win 10 of 12 and leafs keep sucking, as well as the teams between the leafs an us an we would have a slim hope getting in … the fat lady is warming up, but she hasnt just yet started singing in my books :) Go Sens Go!!

    • Spoons

      I just want the Leafs and Wings to miss the playoffs. But it would be nice for the Sens to start winning and actually have fun playing. They need to end on a high note for us to hope that guys like Ryan would want to re-sign.

      • Tooks

        I for 1, would love for Alfie to make the playoffs, I have no grudge towards him and would love to see him hoist that Cup.

        • Andrews theory

          dito

        • Sensnation

          He won’t though, not good enough and not a good enough team.

          • Tooks

            The Wings are built for playoff hockey. They always step it up, they took 2 series to 7 games… They are hard to beat when the games count.

            Now saying that, no Zetterberg and an injured Datsyuk, its gonna alot tougher now!

    • Tooks

      I think you’re at the wrong party, the fat lady sung 2 weeks ago…

  • Zelle

    Interesting that Andy will be the backup. Could be a hint that Sens are ready to go with Lehner with a veteran backup instead of vice versa.

    As always I’m hoping for a Sens win tonight. Back to backs haven’t been pretty for Ottawa this season but never say never!

    • aegiszx

      Not too much to look into IMO. I see it as them just giving Andy some more rest, after realizing that we’re firmly out of the playoff picture. No point in getting your No.1 back into form at this point of the season. Might as well see what Lehner can do when the ball is in his court.

      • Zelle

        If he needed more rest he probably wouldn’t be dressed though. The way things have been going for Lehner and the team he might need to be pulled again so the backup should be ready to play.

        • Sens613

          Hope he really improves because he doesn’t look like a potential goalie of the futur right now.

          • Zelle

            No but I’m in the pro-Lehner camp. Has he fucked up this season? Yes. But I think it’s a full circle situation. Offense can’t score, so defense tries to do too much on offense, which leaves defense wide open, which makes the goalie vulnerable. Goalie doesn’t trust the defense and doubts his positioning. Easy goals against happen and it deflates the offense because their goal leads get erased. Rinse, repeat.

          • Sens613

            Who’s fault is it when the players giveaway the puck and then goalie lets it in. First shot on net and it’s a goal. Your right confidence instills confidence but having a bad start is never a good start.

            Not putting the blame on Lehner but it would be nice to get that save and perhaps motivate the confidence.; team is to blame for the turnover though.

            Starts with coaching without a proper structure instilled, mixing the line combinations pretty much all season. There was no chemistry between the line ups but there wasn’t a chance for it to build.

          • Zelle

            Those goals weren’t happening at first though, now they are. Turnovers have been happening all season long. How many of those until they go in? How many go in until you lose faith that you can stop them? Lehner has some of the blame and he has taken it on with no hesitation, but he’s certainly not alone and trading him because of this season would be a huge mistake.

            Also people look at Bishop in Tampa playing great but with the Sens last season he had games where 5-6 went in too. I don’t think he would solve our problems.

            Of course all of this is my opinion ;)

          • Sens613

            Whoa whoa I never asked to trade Lehner. Just expressing some opinions on recent plays, just like you having your opinions ;)

          • Zelle

            No I know you haven’t, but a lot of people are talking about it, sadly. Or regretting keeping Lehner over Bishop. I’m just saying I’m more than OK with Lehner in the long run.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            I haven’t seen a soul say they regret keeping Lehner over Bishop….people regret(although not the right word as that would imply some level of control) having moved Bishop period…if anyone regrets having not moved a goalie it is Anderson

          • Zelle

            True most people were calling for a Bishop / Lehner tandem.

          • Sens613

            I Don’t regret keeping Lehner over bishop, I just miss his arrogance that had our fans loving him over bishop.

          • Zelle

            I love that side of him! Also his fight and his hunger to win. Those parts of his character eroded a bit this season though. I hope he gets back to his game next season.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            He wouldn’t have necessarily solved our problems…but only a complete and utter idiot lets a physical specimen that is as highly touted as Bishop go away for literally nothing…….

          • Sens613

            The way it panned out this season, the trade was for nothing. At the time of the trade though we couldn’t keep 3 starting goalies on the roster and Murray had to trade one giving bishop a chance to be a true starter and Lehner a stater for us. Andy was kept because we were in the midst of a playoff push(wish that was the case this season) and needed the veteran presence.

            Conacher was is contention for a Calder last season before being traded. I know, playing with stank is didn’t hurt.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Was a horrible deal at the time and just an embarrassing one now.

            We did not need another forward prospect…. Or throw away in conachers case.

          • Sens613

            It definitely was a gamble gone horribly wrong!

          • Tooks

            I was just appaled we got rid of him….but the trade was kinda funny now that you think about it…the 6’7 monster goalie for the 5’8 smurf winger. Hmmmm…..

          • Miguel

            this is the classic case of hindsight is 20/20, but yah it now does look incredibly awful!

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Miguel… You have been here long enough to know full well that this is not a case of hindsight is 20/20…i was pretty adamant that we should go with the young duo and move Anderson.

            Anyone that was happy with this deal claims everyone else is only on the hate bandwagon due to hindsight…. Not the case here

          • Sensnation

            How many first shots have you seen become goals? Is that really what you think the problem with this team is?

          • Sensnation

            Lol, have you not seen some of the saves he’s made? He still has room to grow, but don’t blame the goalie for shitty defense.

          • Sens613

            I have seen the saves he’s made but the ones he lets in are more prominent in recent memory. He has let in a few weak shots that would of been a walk in the park for him in the past.

            The defense isn’t anywhere to be found either and giving up way too many odd men rushes leaving no chance for the goalie; so the blame isn’t solely on Lehner.

            Would like him to steal a game for us though; which would start the mojo and confidence needed to start winning games or at least have fun playing it.

          • Sensnation

            The ones he lets in? Most of them are rebounds the d didn’t help out on. Most of the time it’s Karlsson at that. He let in a few questionable ones, but most of them have been either quality chances or 3rd and 4th rebounds that the d didn’t clear.

          • Jacques

            Rebound control is part of goaltending! And dumbass when Karlsson goes on the offence where’s the forward covering for him, oh yeah forgot must be when the big floater is out there who never comes back in his own zone. Karlsson is our best player wakeup!

          • MB

            Rebound control is only improved by playing as well along with time and patients for young goaltenders. Consistency is also important. Lehner has received none of that this year and people expecting him to come in and be stellar need to have a little more of an open mind, not just focus on the now.

          • Tooks

            Every goalie makes those saves, its how calm and consistant can he become…Calm, I dont see it, consistant, here’s to hope!

          • Jacques

            Sunny skies! YEAH playing behind that pylon Cowen is tricky.

          • MB

            Again, relax. You want to rip apart some of the vets that have had down years, go ahead, there’s some merit to it. Ripping apart the youth of the team is pointless because the Sens are going to be patient with them as they should. Rome wasn’t built in a day.

        • Tooks

          I was just going to say that! Lehner is all over the map right now, you all blame Subban for the exact same thing. Lehner snaps and shows very bad body language after goals, even his interview kinda laballed our D as lazy and dont care. Big words from The Lehner.

          • Jacques

            Lehner’s lateral movement is very concerning, he doesn’t move like a quality NHL netminder, he needs lots of work to be honest.

          • MB

            Work = games. Only way he’s going to get better.

    • sens23

      no hint at all, anderson is healthy but not ready to start, no sense keeping hammond up to sit in the press box

    • MB

      Thought crossed my mind too but who knows, probably nothing. If Lehner gets an equal amount of starts down the stretch then that will tell the tale. Anderson is being Anderson though and he doesn’t battle or play through discomfort, never has and never will so I think you see him traded in the off-season as well. He is known for alienating teammates and has been for quite some time.

      • Zelle

        If they want to trade Andy for a veteran goaltender that has had real playoff success I’d be all for it. I just want them to keep Lehner. I’m a huge fan and I think he has legitimate potential. Worst comes to worst the potential doesn’t pan out and we have a veteran guy to take the reins while we see what the farm has maybe.

        • MB

          I think Lehner, aside from Karlsson is the most important player in the organization at this point along with Lazar. IMO they need to bring in a vet goalie who has been a #1 and won’t push Lehner for the #1 position rather than help him move forward with it but also has a little game left. Nabokov is that guy and he’s a UFA at years end.

          Anderson is a player that has to go IMO and you probably won’t get a ton for, maybe a 2nd round pick at best kind of thing. They made their choice between Bishop and Lehner and it’s now time to give Lehner the ball and develop him into that #1 goalie at the NHL level. Lehner needs to play and play lots and the only place for that is in the NHL. There will be struggles, there will be ups and downs but that’s part of it.

          They need to cut the dead wood for sure and at best Anderson has a year left on a team that doesn’t have a ton of direction right now so moving him to add some organizational depth is probably best. But hey, I thought the Sens would be fighting for the division title this year too.

  • Miguel

    this has been very painful stretch, and therefore will lead into one of longest summer in the franchises history!
    Owner is broke… and wont shut up
    MacLean should go, he cost us many points with bad decisions… BM has made some really bad trades, and even worse contracts,
    Trade everyone… keep no one…
    Problem is that many of these arguments have some merit to it, so how can it stop? Only by winning i guess.
    go sens….go?

    • Sens613

      As bad as things are in Ottawa, I’m glad your not in charge.

      • Miguel

        and what did add to make things better… ah nothing

        • Sens613

          Your right I added nothing. I’m not in charge I’m just fan with opinions and with faith in the team.

          • Miguel

            really oh righteous one?… sorry I do not mean to offend, however I am no less a fan than you are great sir

          • Sens613

            Don’t worry you didn’t offend me. We’re all fans in our own rights. Hope I didn’t offend you though, we can use all fans we can get.

          • Sens613

            To be fair Miguel; IMO; we’re already in year 2-3 of a rebuild and don’t think we need to hit the panic button yet.

            We were spoiled last year and this year we’re going through those growing pains.

          • Miguel

            agreed,and hope you are right,
            however this step back, it can be argued has put is way back to the start of the rebuild.
            No first rounder,
            questions about our future goaltending
            our defence seems worse than before the rebuild,
            and some serious questions regarding our coaching and his decisions this year.
            BM who had the midas touch, has come back to reality.
            At this point I think we should give our prospects a real shot.
            Worst case we lose… big deal we are all used to that now :-)

          • Sens613

            Very well put sir. This year has been very frustrating and hard to watch our team play with all of the problems and lack of success this season.

            Next season will be better!

          • Jacques

            The apologists are all out today Miguel, let’s leave this team as is and shit the bed again next year! Zack Smith is a SUPERSTAR and all our young guys in Bingo with potential can rot till Greening ,Condra, Neil, and Smith have played 1000 games boring us to death to collect their fat pension! Instead BIG changes please MR Murray!

    • son of a Diefenbaker

      think about it – MacLean is lockep up for a couple of years

      would ANY other decent coach sign on for the Melnyk follies ?

      • Miguel

        I am not saying we fire PM, but you can understand some people will make that argument, that what I am sayin, thats all

  • Tooks

    How many goals does Stammer get tonight, this could get real ugly!
    Also watch Spezza and Hemsky be our best players….again.

    • Sensturion

      Well, usually the team’s best players should be the best players.

  • Miguel

    top questions I want our Media Brass to ask the Sens:
    Melnyk – with added funds with TV deals, how much will BM’s budget be increased to better this floundering team?
    BM / PM – why are our best players not playing?
    – Why do some players get constantly get sat PW46/Gryba or demoted O’Brien, while others who clearly hurt the team Cowen/CP4/ Greening contstantly play regardless of how bad they are?
    – When can we expect see the fruits of our last rebuild ie Puempel, Prince, Pageau, Stone, Boro, Claessen, get a real chance to beat out some of the current dead weight?

    • aegiszx

      Chirp mentioned this before but it’s not so black/white…

      Did it ever occur to you that maybe PW46 has a piss poor attitude (not saying he does/doesnt, but the coaches see a lot more than what we do)? Or maybe some of these “professionals” are not that committed right now due to their age/experience? Or as speculated, Ryan’s limited minutes could be due to a season-long injury that only he/Mac knows about?

      • boom

        Right – the “he won the Jack Adams award and you didn’t” argument.

        Classic!

        Basically, you are saying we shouldn’t question any of his moves – he has valid reasons for overplaying some and under utilizing others.

        Did it ever occur to you that he has lost the team, and that last year was a fluke?

        • The Apostle

          I think sense lies somewhere between both positions. I would be reluctant to cast MacLean aside after one bad season after two pretty good ones. However if next year is the same as this then it becomes a lot harder to defend him.

          • boom

            Fair comment.

            While I agree that they should be reluctant to cast MacLean aside, I do think (to Miguel’s original post) that asking MacLean about the inconistency around his “best players will play” mantra is fair.

          • The Apostle

            Agree that questions need to be asked (and they can be asked by anyone) but the only person MacLean needs to give answers to is Murray and therefore by extension, Melnyk. It’s rare that fans are fully in the know.

            I also wonder what answers MacLean can give publicly that don’t toss certain players under the bus. I agree that best players play has got a little old at times during the season,but I also think it’s a fair argument that whoever we have had playing the resultds have been more or less the same.

            Is that a failure of a playing staff to adopt a coaching system or is that the failure of a group of coaches to see that the system isn’t fitting these players and it needs to change. Again I think the answer is somewhere in the middle.

            My concern is that a central problem we have had over the three years of MacLeans tenure (we give up way too many shots) hasn’t been fixed.

          • Miguel

            I never meant to imply to cast MacLean aside, but at least ask WTF is behind some of his terrible decisions?
            Things like: sending Greening Smith Neil as your starting PP… they would not be a starting PP in the AHL let alone anywhere else in the NHL

          • Sensnation

            Smith was indeed a point producer in the AHL. And that’s a perfect example of a situation you need explained to you that’s fairly self explanatory. The other players were not performing up to the coach’s expectations, so they were taught a lesson by putting the grind line on the PP. Anyone who has followed the NHL as much as you say you have, should know this tactic and not question every time it happens.

          • Jacques

            Smith is a fourth line center dude! He isn’t a third line center, wake-up. On a terrible terrible team maybe. Sens have Zibby,DaCosta, and Pageau that should have those minutes! Smith has hardly any offensive upside! You defend the very worst players and shit on a guy like Karlsson our best player!

        • Sensnation

          Last year was a bit of a fluke, but he’s had 2 out of 3 years of success. There’s always more to it then Miguel sees, and some fans do realize that and thus give PM and BM more understanding and leeway. These are professionals, they know what they are doing and being all gun ho about every prospect just because they are a prospect is not the way to rebuild a team.

          • Miguel

            what is it with all the conspiracy shit?
            We all pay good money to go see a good product!
            right now the product is shit! So just like all of us have to do in “real life” when we do not produce, then we must answer questions as to why we have not produced.
            All this ” other stuff behind the scenes” is supect at best. We ALL want the same thing, fans, media, coaches and players, and that is simply to improve the team, if all the decisions are for the improvement of the team, then what should PM BM be afraid of?

          • Sensnation

            Afraid? They aren’t afraid of you Miguel. They are improving the team, but long term improvement doesn’t mean every year has better results than the last. You need to learn patience and understanding, as well as being able to answer some of those questions on your own instead of always acting like you have no clue what’s going on with management and they owe you a 1 on 1 Q&A session.

        • SensChirp

          Not that you shouldn’t question his moves but that you should also consider there are factors influencing his decisions beyond the televised game night.

          • MB

            Anything that happens from this point on aside from perhaps some kids showing something worth taking note over isn’t of any real value. If Spezza scores 3 tonight, it doesn’t matter, if he’s -3 it doesn’t matter. If Lehner shuts the door win a 50 save shutout it doesn’t matter, if he lets in 8, won’t matter.

            The decision have been made at this point, they know what they are going to do going into the off season and if they haven’t been made they are leaning hard towards them. Either way what happens the rest of the way is pretty much a none factor other than getting bang for our buck.

          • sprucesens

            yup, just FA’s playing for contracts, and hopefully giving some of the BSENS a chance to prove they belong up next year. Unfortunately, most of the “deadweight” isn’t likely to play any better down the stretch, and thus making them nearly untradeable. Might be nice to get a few wins so the team can actually start improving the attitude in the dressing room. Right now it seems like it might be some finger pointing and name calling going on. That only leads to bad things. Especially when most fingers are pointed at guys who have contracts past this year…

          • MB

            Obviously Michalek is out but again the writing is on the wall for Spezza and again the rumours are flying about it.

          • Mat

            There have been a lot of poor or questionable “in game” decisions too though.

      • Tooks

        If anyone has a piss poor attitude we would have heard about it or atleast heard rumours of it, nothing has ever been said about PW46′s attitude being bad or even strained.

        As for Ryan, I think its a given he’s injured and if thats the case why even play him on the 3rd line, get a kid up here.

    • boom

      Those are all good questions, but especially the one around “best players”. The worriesome part about that, in my opinion is – if we all see it, you have to think the players see it, and wonder WTF is going on.

  • Andrews theory

    Maybe Murray can ask Yzerman for a do over tonight…? :-(

    • Sens613

      Yzerman: Bahaha!

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    Sportsnet ‏@Sportsnet 2m
    Viktor Fasth needed to be assisted off the ice following a collision with an #Oilers teammate at practice. http://ow.ly/uUKGb

    Ohhhhh Edmonton

    • CohMa

      Some people will do anything not to play in Edmonton.

  • Zelle

    Off topic but wow some Leafs fan are really throwing Reimer under the bus:
    “There is no difficulty in this decision. Carlyle must start McIntyre.
    Reimer should never see the crease again. Period. McIntyre is actually
    a decent back up goalie. Reimer has just proven he’s not even good
    enough to be a back up, never mind the nonsense about being a #1.
    Never going to happen, either in T.O. or anywhere else. Reimer is done
    in the NHL.”

    At least I haven’t read anything like that about Lehner on here..

    • Colin

      Apparently, some of the worst Leaf fans have been absolutely trashing Reimer’s wife on Twitter. Down to the point where it is simply disgusting.

      • Zelle

        That’s just embarrassing. What does she have to do with anything? At least he must be happy he’s gone from there in the off season. I’m sure there will be another club happy to take him.

      • xiorcal

        G.I.D.T

  • A-Train

    Heard Rick Walmsley on Hockey Central today. FWIW, his take is Lehner is struggling because this is the first season at any level that he hasn’t been a #1 go-to guy. Not used to sitting for weeks on the bench between starts.

    • MB

      Lehner needs to play and the only place now he can play in the NHL. Like I said, the Sens made their choice with Lehner, this is their guy, he’s on a 1 way deal next year 100%, they need to move Anderson.

      I’m the biggest Lehner fan on the planet and it’s time for him to either sink or swim. Only thing that needs to happen is a good vet to back him up that’s been a #1 and again IMO that’s Nabokov.

      • MethotToMyMadness

        Nabokov, would be a good one. Giguere if he doesn’t retire, or even Khabibulin if he ever returns. These are guys who have held the #1 before and would be a great go to veteran presence. But if this is the road you go, you are expecting Lehner to play upwards of 60 games.

        • Sensnation

          They are all way too over the hill!

        • MB

          JSG is hanging them up and so is Bulin.

          As for the over the hill comment, Nabokov still had a solid season this year and is exactly the type of goalie you pair up with Lehner right now. You don’t want a guy to push him, you want a guy to support him, simple as that. The experience Nabokov has could be an extremely valuable asset to the Sens and Lehner if only for a season or two. Also gives Dreidger, Hammond, and Brassard some time to develop in the AHL and/or ECHL. Hogberg will obviously stay over in Sweden.

          • Zelle

            Agree with this! Toronto has tried the 50/50 tandem twice now and finally looks like they are going with a number 1 after removing Scrivens and probably Reimer. 50/50 also didn’t work in Vancouver, and didn’t seem to work in St-Louis as they went for Miller. And it was horrible in New Jersey this season.

          • Sensnation

            Nabokov made 3.25mil this year. I don’t think he’s coming to Ottawa within budget to be our backup. He has great experience leading SJ teams that never made it anywhere. Refused to even show up in NYI when claimed there at first. And still appears to believe he’s a starter.

            I’d say keep Anderson as the backup at that price, or bring in a Montoya or Greiss to provide reliable backup minutes. Whoever is Lehner’s backup, if that’s the way they go next year, should still expect to play 25-30 games.

          • MethotToMyMadness

            That is true. Earlier I was just naming off older guys that had a #1 job in the past. But Nabokov would probably be one of the better options.

            Vokoun is also an FA this season, would fit the bill nice if he’s back to his regular health and the Pens don’t sign him back. Other FA’s are Clemmensen, Labarbera or even Emery.

        • sprucesens

          why not just keep Anderson as the backup, or even 50 50, and actually let the hot goalie run with it, without having to go back to Anderson just because he’s the “number 1″? I’d sooner have a guy that has played here, is aware of what players are gonna leave him hung out to dry, and which are gonna try to block the shot and so on, and which are gonna cough the puck up into the slot for no real reason. The only way I don’t see this happening, is if a different team is willing to guarantee him #1 duties and bigger money. And I don’t honestly see us just handing the team over to lehner if he isn’t going to prove his worth in the nhl by stealing a few games the way Anderson has. He’s signed next year to a decent cap hit for a starter, lets not run him out of town, and lets not bet everything on lehner just yet

          • MB

            Consistency, that’s why. You need 1 guy and 1 guy only. Also Anderson is a guy that is known for not being the greatest teammate or willing to battle but he will make a fuss if he’s not #1 like he did in Colorado.

          • sprucesens

            and if that 1 guy gets injured or gets blown out a few games in a row? why get rid of a veteran potential back up, only to sign another? that’s my point. I’m fine with giving lehner the ball to run with it, but if he fails, and we are rid of Anderson, all of a sudden, the most stacked team in the league for goalie depth last year (Anderson, bishop, lehner) to (failed lehner, and X goalie) would be a disaster. Why not keep the same tandem we have, and give them 50 50 starts, based on who’s playing better at that time? Might have got us into the playoffs this year…running with lehner while he was on fire, giving Anderson a break after a terrible stretch of games, and so on

          • MB

            Like 75% of the other teams in the NHL they are probably in trouble and you hope someone within the organization can step up.

            I get having a reliable backup, that’s not lost on me but that backup can’t aspire to be a #1 goaltender either with Lehner. You are looking for fit and the ability to play here and there along with some confidence.

            As for Sensation who mentioned Nabokov’s salary this year, he won’t be making anywhere near that much for near that long. If you sign him a 2 year deal it won’t be over 2 mil per at this point in his career and Lehner won’t be making anything over 2 mil on a short term deal as well. 4 mil total on goaltenders is more than under budget if you are concerned about that.

            Having said all this I doubt any of it happens and unless some tough decisions are made in the summer then next year will look exactly like this one, at least at this pace the Sens would be drafting a potential generational talent.

    • Miguel

      holy crap… we cant win, can we?
      we traded a great goalie, so we would not hurt his feelings and send him down, where he would have been getting all the starts he wanted.
      Then we hurt him because he is the back u?
      Hello, look up Rask behind Thomas for a couple of years.
      How about you just stop the fukin puck?

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        Coming from someone that has obviously never played keeper in any sport

        • Miguel

          No I did not… and where did you ply your tending expertise Bunny? OHL?
          Outdoor Hockey League.

      • Cassidaus

        I’m pretty sure our defense would make Bishop look bad, too.

        • MB

          Bishop lets in 4 against Ottawa last week and he’s struggled since the break, he would be in the same position Lehner is. Again the biggest issue in Ottawa is just the total lack of commitment to anything that isn’t offense on the whole. It trickles down to everyone and with a young team the confidence just shrinks more and more.

    • Mat

      well, he’s played a few in a row now and still lets in a couple of very weak, deflating goals. Is it at all possible that Wamsley isn’t preparing his goalies propoerly?

      • Sensnation

        Playing a few in a row doesn’t magically get you into starters shape. Some of the best veteran starting goaltenders are not their best for a third to a half of the start of a season.

        • Mat

          What?? If that’s how long it takes for your goalie to be ready for games, you should never hire them in the first place! And Lehner is not an older vet either.

          I can understand having to shake the rust from being on the bench often but Lehner has had the opportunity to play in the last 6 games. 4 games last week alone. If you’re not in game shape after that, there IS a problem.

          The guy is due for a solid performance. Let’s hope its tonight.

          • Sensnation

            Lol, ok Mat. If that’s your opinon, must be how it works.

            Never claimed he was an older vet, compared the situation that is all.

          • MB

            Said like someone who has never worn a pair of skates in their life.

          • Zelle

            Luongo has shaky starts to each season. Henrik took months to get into form, and he’s certainly a great goaltender.

          • SENSsmile

            Lehner was nothing short of stellar (pun intended) against Dallas on Saturday. His team crapped the bed in front of him… again.

          • Jacques

            Don’t argue with him he’s the authority on goalies now!

  • Courageous23

    Would be nice for the Sens to finish the season with some wins. Also amusing to hear the crickets from the fans of ‘the team that must not be named’ with them only one point up on the Caps, who have a game in hand. Some people never learn…

  • Conor_smythe

    the senators will make quick work of tampa, and walk away with 2pts

    the season isnt over til its over, and these sens arent giving up

    one game at a time, we’ll get there

    its hard to believe we will get any worse

    so maybe – just maybe – we will start to get better

    screw the leafs

    go sens

  • Zelle

    No Bobby tonight or tomorrow :(

  • karlssens

    How awesome would it be if we traded Spezza to Anaheim for our first and Silf back? Wonder if they would do it.

    • SENSsmile

      Why would the Ducks want to do that? Their team is stacked…

      • karlssens

        A first and a second liner seems like a pretty good deal to solidify their second line.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Why would they… That would be horrible

      • MB

        Wait to see how the playoffs play out. If Anaheim can’t get out of the 1st round and have trouble scoring it’s quite possible they make a deal for a 2nd line center, could be Kessler or Spezza.

        Everything will be more clear closer to the draft for sure, right now you just cheer on the Sens, take the positives in some of the youth, and hope for an honest effort and some solid highlights. The time to be negative is over, they are out of the playoffs, the worrying is done. Acceptance has set in and you try and gain a little hope back for next year.

  • karlssens

    Mac-Turris-Ryan
    Hemsky-zibby-Silf
    Michalek-lazar/pageau/sdc-stone
    Greening-smith-Neil

    I like it! Plus we recover a first.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      In a shit draft year…. People are way to stuck up on not having a first this year

      • karlssens

        I don’t care what draft it is.. If you get a top 5 pick that’s still a quality player.

  • karlssens

    It’s quiet in here lol, have all the fans jumped ship?!

    • xiorcal

      50% of them waiting for a goal to show support the rest wainting to see tampa score to blast cowen or spezz or lenher or ….. ;-)

      • Zelle

        I was waiting until I could shit on Maclean for using the Smith line. :O

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Quiet in here today. GO SENS GO

  • xiorcal

    This is the game where they start there 28 games winning streak.

  • BeJamin

    lol fucking GSN at it again with another retarded penalty. I hate them so much.

  • Andrews theory

    Is it ground hog day again?

    Way to lead by example Neil

  • xiorcal

    slow speed what ?

  • BeJamin

    Phillips May as well back into his own net there…. Useless..

    • Andrews theory

      Lol how does Condra miss the net every single time ?

  • xiorcal

    Mac+turris+stone look good. Just need a bit more time to reed each other better.

  • Zelle

    Wow Turris great opportunity there for Mac. They look pretty confident tonight, good to see.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Karlsson is dominating here so far. That guy is such a boss.

    • xiorcal

      This is the best the sens have look in a long time

    • Jacques

      Oh but don’t you know that Sensnation thinks that Karlsson has been the reason that Cowen has struggled all year!

  • MB

    Gryba does so many things well for a big man. You have to think after his past 2 seasons in the NHL he can be a cog on the blueline for a long time being the only RH shut down type in the entire organization.

  • mr.slapshot

    Condra should try not aiming at the net and see if that works.

    • Andrews theory

      It’s mind boggling….

    • xiorcal

      His it always wide on the same side?

      • mr.slapshot

        Not really, just goes anywhere but the net. High, wide, he does it all.

        • Andrews theory

          Maybe he should stop thinking he’s trying to score and just try to put the puck at the net as hard pass, loft pass, snap pass anything

          • mr.slapshot

            anything but the constant whiffs would be helpful

          • Jacques

            Maybe an upgrade on him might be the solution!

        • xiorcal

          I always think of this when his the one shooting

    • Jacques

      We should spin him around like pin the tail on the donkey first and see if that helps him!

  • Zelle

    Soo close! Amazing pressure! Hope they keep this up all night.

  • karlssens

    Kills me that condra is on a line with zibby and Hoffman. What a useless player.

    If he’s not on the 4th line he’s doing nothing. Greening has played much better than him as of late.

    • Zelle

      I actually think he’s playing well, he just can’t hit the net for some unknown reason.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Turris for captain! Love his work ethic.

  • Andrews theory

    I believe what Potvin is trying to say is Stamkos is not Condra

    • xiorcal

      You mean there’s still some people trying to understand what Potvin is saying?

    • FistsofNeil25

      Potvin earlier referred to Tyler Johnson as Tampa Bay’s best center. I guess he forgot about Stamkos and Filppula.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Wow good to see Phillips get up so quickly. That was scary.

    • Zelle

      Yeah I thought he was staying down at first. That easily could have been a broken net.

  • xiorcal

    Condra his probably the only player that can make the fans scream pass instead of shoot on a pp at the ct center.

  • Zelle

    If they played every period of every game like this they would be in a playoff spot right now..

  • Andrews theory

    Greening with the penalty for “pile on” if you are going to get a penalty, punch the guy at least

  • Zelle

    Lightning announcers making all kinds of excuses for their players lol

  • xiorcal

    A goal to end the period would be nice

  • luckan20

    Condra can’t hit the target. Shame to watch him.

    • xiorcal

      he killed a goalie whit his shot when he was younger and can’t aim since?

  • mr.slapshot

    Nick Kypreos is impossible to watch or listen to.

    • H POTTER

      I think you read my mind…he makes me want to vomit

  • Millennium

    Missed the first, but heard about a bad hit on Phillips. Hope he’s OK.

    How has Stone looked?

    • xiorcal

      Good chemistry with mac and turris just need more finish on that line

  • xiorcal

    Spezza!!!

  • Zelle

    Niiiice! I could feel that was coming, good job Spezza line + Karlsson very nice goal!

  • H POTTER

    That duo is sick…I don’t know if MM9 can be a legitimate linemate come next year..but it could be scary if this is clicking…could this be the start of the 12-0 run?

  • xiorcal
  • Millennium

    Man, even though it was a broken play, Hemsky and Spezza just seem to click, and its about damn time.

  • H POTTER

    What a composure move

  • FistsofNeil25

    Fuck off where has this team been hiding?

    • xiorcal

      don’t sell the bear skin before asking him if he is ok with the price.

      • mr.slapshot

        :o

        • xiorcal

          This is the same team that let a 3 goals lead go against montreal so no celebration before the game is done.

          • FistsofNeil25

            True. I just can’t remember another game when they spent so little time in their own zone

          • xiorcal

            23-13 in the shot department. Almost feel like the good old days ;)

  • Zelle

    Now the Turris line!!

  • Millennium

    Nice play by Stone!

  • Zelle

    Spezza with a nice Sens zone recovery! Loving the confidence in the team so far tonight.

  • xiorcal

    the way stone-turris and mac are playing I want to see what ryan-spezz-hemsky can bring to the table.

    • mr.slapshot

      I don’t know about that. I wouldn’t want to mess with Spezzas chemistry. Took so long to get him fired up again.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Notice how good the team is playing without Chris Phillips.

    • xiorcal

      nagging nancy :-P

    • bluebuyyoo

      …and Bobby Ryan ;-)

  • Cicero

    Everyone deserves this night. Great stuff! (ohgodpleasedontchoke)

  • xiorcal

    I guess chirp as money on the sens in this game. or is it the other way around?

  • bluebuyyoo

    Number 1 reason this team is where they are this season…TOO MANY STUPID PENALTIES!

  • mr.slapshot

    Wow get it together

  • Zelle

    Come on, stop it with the penalties.

  • xiorcal

    Condra with a shorty to make us all shut up

  • xiorcal

    Cowen is playing an ok game today.

  • Millennium

    Why does Cowen NEVER hit with his body? He always uses his arms and just pushes people. Must be left over hesitation from the injury, but that is just weaksauce from someone so big.

    • xiorcal

      At least his positioning is a lot better today.

  • karlssens

    Honestly. Cowen these last 20 games has been 250% better. Still not there yet tho.

  • Roar…

    Doesn’t everyone just love how Stone hasn’t been playing in Ottawa the last 20 games. Yep, thanks Melnyk. Thanks for making us watch Colin Greening & Chris Neil shit the bed every night. We know why we aren’t in the playoffs. It really boils down to a few things…

    1. Phillips & Cowen played too much. They were both terrible all year. Cowen is slowly improving but it’s 1 step forward 2 steps back. He’s barely justifying 3rd pairing minutes.

    2. PK – It sucks. See #1. Time wasting Alfie is missing, no up ice pressure, just bad.

    3. GSN – They suck. They take a million bad penalties, fail to drive possession, get score don regularly, are devoid of talent in the offensive zone, and are so low skilled they turnover the puck with regularity in unacceptable ways.

    4. Young guns haven’t been allowed to go. Stone, Da Costa, Pageau & Hoffman for most of the year. These guys are better than who we are playing. Wake up Ottawa. Melnyk’s clutching of the purse strings is what’s to blame here. All of them when called up have played well. Yet they don’t stay. Maybe you can’t have all of them, but 3 of them should be up and should have been up for a long time. Not to mention Conacher, he’s no longer part of our organization because Melnyk is a cheap bitch.

  • xiorcal

    We need to kill this

  • mr.slapshot

    Hit the guy… no need for that.

  • Zelle

    Noooooooo another out of position penalty for Ottawa …

  • xiorcal

    high stick on the best replay

  • H POTTER

    It just amazes me how this year’s team is clueless on even strength coming back on defense how all the players are still trying to find out who to cover the back check. I just don’t get it how these pro players who have been playing all their life are that lost

  • xiorcal

    the original call ?

  • xiorcal

    Man thats a bunch of shithead

  • Andrews theory

    Just going to throw it out there…

    NHL -not a fan of Eugene…

    • bluebuyyoo

      So, it’s Eugene’s fault that we are getting bad calls? Lol!

      • Andrews theory

        True, sports are never rigged

        • bluebuyyoo

          Take off the tinfoil hat.

          • xiorcal

            why it’s look cool plus it’s shiny.

  • bluebuyyoo

    Horseshit! Original call waived it off.

  • Zelle

    What the original call was no goal.. fuck you…

  • H POTTER

    There’s the game….stoopid ass penalties this entire season…there’s not enough bag skate to fix this…MacLean is too damn soft on em’

  • xiorcal

    This is so sad, the bunch of fucktup calls against montreal and now this call on the ice stand today. so much bullshit this year.

  • xiorcal

    Nice full sentence by Potvin there.

  • mr.slapshot

    Can we “discreetly” start taking runs at refs the rest of the season?

    • xiorcal

      Please

  • H POTTER

    3 on 2 Smith has a winger on his left, instead takes a shot and guess what, misses the net ! Dat -a-boy

    • xiorcal

      The sad thing is that he was the one going to Edmonton in the pre season rumor. What if…

      • Jacques

        I know too bad!

  • xiorcal

    If a bullshit call like that sap our morale what can it do to the sens

  • xiorcal

    fuck u

    • xiorcal

      in the last 2 minutes they let tampa go with a holding the stick on cowen and obstruction on zibby but they call spezza on that.

  • Zelle

    Guy closest to the play: No goal. Referees huddle. Now all of a sudden the original call was no goal and it stands.

    Please Sens, please come back from this and take this game.

  • Jacques

    Karlsson gets a high stick in the face And no penalty

    • xiorcal

      forgot that one

      • Jacques

        Haha it was just before

  • Spoons

    I missed the whole. Just logged on. Is Ryan in?

    • karlssens

      Nope abdominal issues

    • Zelle

      He’s out for this game and tomorrow against the Panthers as well, it seems.

  • karlssens

    The better spezza plays, the better the package for him will be!

    • xiorcal

      I don’t see them trading him. There is a minimum cap in this league

      • karlssens

        All educated people seem to think he’s gone in the offseason.

        • Jacques

          I have a university degree…. Haha is that what you mean!!!

          • karlssens

            Has to be an arts in history to qualify

          • Jacques

            Haha, is that what Dreger has!

    • Jacques

      Amen, praise The Lord!

  • Jacques

    Can someone just stand next to Stamkos, let the other 4 play with the puck!

  • Jacques

    How’s does Lehner give a rebound on that?

  • xiorcal

    The officiating this year has turn listening to hockey from a fun experience to something completely different. I don’t remember feeling this way the year prior to the rebuild. I can live with bad penalty when they are deserve but this year the zebras are making me angry almost every freaking game. I don’t mind the sens losing when the score is decided by the players.

    • Jacques

      The refs have something against the Sens for sure! It’s been disgusting all year!

      • xiorcal

        Disgust thats the feeling thank’s Jacques

        • Jacques

          So many times I look at what’s being called and I say WTF, just like now!

  • mr.slapshot

    this is disgusting

  • Andrews theory

    Are u fucking kidding me, Karlsson gets a tripping call for a hip check

    • FistsofNeil25

      brutal

  • H POTTER

    I’m starting to really hate the refs

    • xiorcal

      only starting???????????????!!!!!!

  • xiorcal
  • Brock

    Typical.

  • bluebuyyoo

    How blatantly wrong is that? Taking the Sens best player off of the ice just in time for OT.

  • Zelle

    Seriously…

  • karlssens

    BS

  • KingKarlsson84 – RSU is pathet

    I don’t want to be that guy, but the reffing over the last few seasons has been so brutal and getting worse league wide….These guys have no accountability…

    • xiorcal

      They need to screwup if they want to give something to Fraser to write about

      • Jacques

        Fraser is the all-time worst ref ever! He was brutal!

  • Andrews theory

    On a side note, gotta love Mac throwing out greening and smith with 40 seconds left.

    Lemme guess who he starts with… Let’s double shift smith?

    • Andrews theory

      Holy crap nailed it

    • Zelle

      LOL Smith is out.

  • H POTTER

    I can’t understand how as an organization they can’t complain about this at a higher level. This makes no sense. What are the chances now that they don’t get a goal out if this

  • xiorcal

    Are we going to get a make up call ?

    • xiorcal

      no just a no call on an infraction

    • bluebuyyoo

      Bwahahahahahaha!

    • Cicero

      Next season. After the Sens org eats crow and apologizes to the NHL refs

  • Zelle

    I will be very surprised if Bolts don’t score on this. They are PP performers. Unreal.

  • Jason

    Lol wow these refs are so bad! Sens can’t get a break.

  • Jacques

    Kill this and Karl will get the winner!

  • Jacques

    I enjoy watching Karlsson, the reason I keep watching even though our fate is sealed!

  • xiorcal

    Karlsson not on ice ??????????

  • xiorcal

    call a timeout Pmac

    • Jacques

      Not getting anything going!

  • Andrews theory

    Where’s Hoffman…

    • Jacques

      Good point, his skating would open up the ice!

  • BeJamin

    GSN with almost as many minutes as Spezza line again. Fuck this retarded fucking shit.

    • Zelle

      I don’t think the Spezza line kills penalties?

  • Andrews theory

    NHL calling…

  • xiorcal

    is there a goal or what?

  • xiorcal

    that for .9 second

  • Jacques

    Oh man, Lehner in the shootout coming. He’s weak on the deke move.

  • KingKarlsson84 – RSU is pathet

    Lehner bites every single time in the shoot out, this game is as good as L

    • Aaron 2.0

      Well, the season is all but done. Perfect chance for him to get more experience with it! He’s fine w/ in-game break-aways. He’s admitted that the way players can change pace in the SO is a real challenge for him. He’ll get there!

  • Jacques

    Come on Mac send out Neil,Greening,and Smith for the shootout!

    • KingKarlsson84 – RSU is pathet

      Yeah they need as much ice time as possible apparently

    • xiorcal

      But what are you going to do if they all score

      • Jacques

        Celebrate with a king Can!

  • xiorcal

    release the lenher

  • Andrews theory

    Looking forward to seeing PW play tomorrow.

    Watching Gryba try to make that break out pass or Phillips on other nights…eesh

  • Jacques

    Why not Hemsky , throw the guy a bone if you want to resign him!

  • Jacques

    Way to go Lehner

  • T K

    Shootout: in Andy we trust! oh, wait…

  • Jacques

    Have to admit nice snipe

  • xiorcal

    one more goal please

  • Jacques

    Lehner not moving nice to see, let the shooter make the first move

  • xiorcal

    did i say release the lenher.

  • mr.slapshot

    Atta boy

  • KingKarlsson84 – RSU is pathet

    Good job Lehner, finally!

  • Andrews theory

    Thata boy!

  • Jacques

    Beauty , nice to see, good for his confidence

  • Zelle

    TEH LEHNER!!

  • T K

    good to see Lehner in Calder Cup frame of mind in the shootout.

  • bluebuyyoo

    A winning streak starts with a win. Right? :-)

  • my2sens

    Who’s donating a goat to the Norse Gods tonight!?

    • s3nsfan

      I stole the sheep Tookie had hiding in his closet, will that work?

  • xiorcal

    The guy finally won a shootout and played a really good game so why do i have a feeling Pmac is going to put Andy in the Crease tomorrow?

    • my2sens

      Bingo!

    • Aaron 2.0

      Back-to-back games. It’s the right move if Anderson is 100%, IMHO.

      • xiorcal

        after such a long time off?

        • Aaron 2.0

          I have no clue if he’s actually ready. But, for me, yeah, it’s not much different in other back-to-back situations where the starter has played a bunch of games. It’s usually the perfect time to get the other guy in the net. And, stats aren’t on the side of a goalie when they play the 2nd game of a back-to-back.

          To be honest though, if you’re thinking that the playoffs are shot, and it’s just about experience for guys at this point, and not about winning, I’d be fine in this situation if they went back to Lehner.

          • SENSsmile

            I think your second paragraph is the key here. Lehner MUST play tomorrow, IMHO.

    • Zelle

      By the way Anderson sounded in his interview on Sens TV I don’t think that is the case, but things could change. Lehner really improved on the SO, good for him! He was so happy. Best moment of the night right there.

      • xiorcal

        To bad he had no mic on him.

      • MB

        If Lehner starts tomorrow that’s a direct slap in the face to Anderson… and I would fully support that.

        • Zelle

          Well he did sound irritated when the reporter asked if he was playing tomorrow, and he just replied that if they call his name to play he’s ready to go. It sounded like they were going for back to back Lehner shows. I could be wrong though, it’s happened once or twice before!

  • Aaron 2.0

    Good SO by Lehner. He looked really patient out there!

  • FistsofNeil25

    I know the season is over but you have to feel good for the guys to get that win. The stars showed up to play and Lehner was solid for the most part. That’s got to be a big confidence booster for him to get a shootout win.

    • xiorcal

      Not over just 27 more win to go

  • luckan20

    Much deserved win for Lehner. We took way too many penalties and the zebra clowns were basically bad tonight too.

  • bluebuyyoo

    Hey Chirp! Tomorrow, we get highlights!!!

    • SensChirp

      And an update on their push for a playoff spot :)

      • bluebuyyoo

        Like I said earlier, a winning streak begins with a win!

      • Sicilian

        My expectations are much lower unfortunately. I’m just hoping to beat the Leafs and knock them out of the playoffs :)

        • PraiseAlfie11

          That would imply getting to a wild card spot :). For some perverse reason, I wouldn’t mind if the sens could do that though.

          • Sicilian

            I was thinking the two points wouldn’t get us to 8th spot but would knock the Leafs from 8th. I think this is a plausible scenario…

          • PraiseAlfie11

            I think the sens beating them on the final saturday night game of the season is a fantastic opportunity in the making :)

  • xiorcal

    After the game comment from the ref on the mix up on the stamkos goal: It was to loud

  • Sicilian

    When’s the last time a controversial call went our way? Can anyone remember? Looking forward to someone asking Kerry on TSN

    • Sicilian

      Apparently, the refs apologized after the game. That wouldn’t have helped had TB scored on that OT PP

  • xiorcal

    Lehner is almost smilling in is postgame interview :-)

  • xiorcal

    for future reference this is Lenher smilling —–> :- |

    • Zelle

      For Lehner, smiling is a sign of weakness.

      • Tooks

        Yeah come on man, Vikings dont smile…

  • karlssens

    We are all the true fans watching this team still even when they are out of the playoff picture! I still can’t help but be happy for wins!

    • xiorcal

      what do you mean out of the playoff picture?

      • Tooks

        Sigh…

  • senspride

    It was great to see them win tonight. I hope they keep it up and show the fans that they care ,the rest of the way. Lehner looked good .

  • Harv

    Watched this on Tampa TV and had to put up with the terrible “homers” on the broadcast. Great to see the Sens pull this one out against the Lightning and the refs. Is there any doubt the NHL referees are giving it to the Sens after watching this farce? Karlson gets a penalty for a hip check 3 seconds before overtime? The worst call all year and, believe me, there was lots of competition.

    Thoughts: Please put Wiercoch in. Gryba was bordering on brutal at times. Playing Phillips again and sitting Wiercoch? Karlson played his heart out going both ways. Spezza was ok but, man, he coasts a lot when back checking. Lehner looked strong and should play all of the remaining games. Liked Stone. Looks like he goes into the hard places and we sure need that. Condra still looks like a duck out of water. Turris making some great moves out there. Hoffman is a keeper and still think Z’Bad could develop into a Hossa-type player for us.

    This should be a good team next year if they can keep some of the guys who work hard and actually look like they know how to play hockey.

    Looking forward to tomorrow’s game against the Panthers.

    • Jason

      Hate to break it to you but the Sens broadcast isn’t much better. I can’t stand Denis Potvin, and between the two of them it’s like they have no clue what’s going on. For example, when Phillips got boarded at the end of the period there was 4 players involved. All 4 of them had offsetting minors but the Tampa guy got an extra 2 for boarding, the announcers could not figure out why all the players went to the dressing room with 1:48 left but one Tampa player stayed in the box.

      • Tooks

        Denis Potvin….nuff said…

  • LeafsSux

    Wasnt Sandy at the game?

  • T K

    Another stellar evening of top notch NHL officiating. I’m building Bettman and Walkom voodoo dolls. Anyone happen to have any hairs and clothing fibres?

    • Harv

      This has been the worst year ever league-wide, but the Sens seem to be particularly blessed with bad officiating. Couldn’t be part of a league plan, could it?

      • Tooks

        Nah, its cuz you only watch the Sens. Its happening League wide.

        • s3nsfan

          Nah it’s cause i watch a game from around the league every night and it is totally league wide, terrible reffing

          • Tooks

            Yeah like I said, League wide…

          • s3nsfan

            i stand corrected, i misread your reply.

    • sprucesens

      aside from the brutal call against karlsson, i thought it was a half decent effort by the ref’s for once. the only other thing was “the call on the ice stands, its a good goal” when the call on the ice was no goal. But i can see how close it was, and if the warroom figured it was a goal, i don’t care so much. it has 0 effect on our season now. i just want to see the good players do well, and the bad players to play like shit, so maybe the staff will see it too, and make sure they aren’t on the team next year…

  • sprucesens

    On the people that think we will trade spezza in the offseason… I know it sounds like the writing is on the wall, but it will be really hard to trade spezza, get 2 to 3 pieces of great value coming back, and still stay above the cap floor. We’d have to get a 5 mill player and a 2 mill player and a top pick to make it justifiable to actually trade him. And most teams aren’t going to give up a 5 mill player. And for us to take on a 2 mil type, it’d have to be a young up and coming player. Which again, is going to be hard to get from a team.

    More likely to get 2 or 3 ready to go prospects, with maybe one that is established, similar to the ryan deal. But there aren’t that many teams that have that kind of depth, that are looking for a player like spezza. And right now, none of them have room, and will barely have room next year. So if a trade were to happen, it would have to be someone coming to us to get him, not likely the other way around.

    • Cicero

      You make an important point that is often overlooked when the trade-buzz around 19 comes up. Well done and thanks!

    • s3nsfan

      Ducks could use a second line centre, trade them spezza for Silfverberg, Noessen and our first back LMAO

  • BigDaddy

    I would love someone to do a top ten video, even though there could be a top 100, of the worst calls of the year for the sens. They can include the waived goal last night, the no whistle in Montreal, the Kadri hit etc…. I really think this video could go viral and at least bring some attention to what is happening. I know bad calls happen but I have never seen anything like this year. Hey chirp, maybe this can be a post later on. If nothing else it helps fans vent.

    • Misaow

      Probably my favorite wtf reffing moment.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YudjOmqtRFY

      • Zelle

        I was so mad when that happened. I love Price but he gets the softest goalie interference calls…

    • Tooks

      What was wrong with the Stamkos goal? He hit it below the crossbar, impossible to tell in real time and thats why the refs went with the safe call at the time. But clearly the slow mo shows he hit it below the crossbar, it was a good goal. No issues here.

      • PraiseAlfie11

        It was waived off, then the announcement after review was original call stands, good goal.

        I think the ref just misspoke, but anyways.

        • Tooks

          And…

          • PraiseAlfie11

            You asked what was wrong with the goal. I explained why people are upset. IMO, there was nothing wrong with it.

            Ne douche pas.

    • Zelle

      Unless you include bad calls for all teams or at least various ones, I doubt it will get any attention apart from people saying ‘quit whining’. Usually I don’t like to blame the refs but there have been way too much WTF moments this season that DECIDE the game and that’s where I draw the line.

  • Tooks

    I can see how the call on the Karlsson play could of happened, Karlsson got beat and tried to atleast slow down the guy from walking past him and from center ice (where the call was made) it looks like Karlsson trips the player with his leg/feet when in fact he hits him with his ass.

    Terrible call, but I’ve seen worse.

  • SensChirp
  • thepez

    Intersting dilemma that coach Mac has today. First he will have to insert PW46 into the lineup something he just does not want to do, now that Philips is hurt. Second his choice tonight of Lehner or Andy will tell a lot about his philosophy of best players play. Lehner has been solid in the last two games and deserves to keep it going. Anderson is the #1 but we have seen this scenario before in November. I would start Lehner but soemthing tells me he goes with Anderson.

  • senspride

    Run with Lehner I say. He looked great last night. Let him get his confidence back and get ready for next year.