Game Day- Senators Visit Bishop in Tampa

SensChirp January 23, 2014 534
Game Day- Senators Visit Bishop in Tampa

With the Eastern Conference playoff race getting tighter by the day, the Ottawa Senators need to continue their impressive play of late and keep pace with the rest of the pack.

Tonight’s task is a tough one though as they take on Ben Bishop, Martin St. Louis and the rest of the high flying Tampa Bay Lightning. The Bolts currently sit second in the Atlantic Division, with 63 points through the first 50 games of the season and trail the division leading Bruins by just two points. When Steven Stamkos went down with an injury, everyone expected this team to begin their slide out of the playoff picture but that just hasn’t happened.

Marty St. Louis has stepped up in a big way and seems to be using his Olympic snub as extra motivation the last couple weeks. He was named the league’s first star on Monday, after racking up five goals and eight points, including an impressive four goal effort against the Sharks on Saturday. Safe to say finding a way to contain St. Louis will be a huge part of Ottawa’s game plan tonight.

There was plenty of talk about the “miscommunication” between Marc Methot and Head Coach Paul MacLean and after listening to the Coach speak about it after practice yesterday, I was quick to declare it a non-issue. Clearly there may be more going on here than either player or coach are prepared to admit as Marc Methot will miss a second straight game as a healthy scratch.

No changes expected to the forward combinations. Here’s how Paul MacLean lined his guys up at the morning skate.

MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
Conacher-Zibanejad-Michalek
Smith-Spezza-Condra
Greening-Da Costa-Neil

Cowen-Karlsson
Phillips-Ceci
Wiercioch-Gryba

Craig Anderson gets the start in the Ottawa goal while Vezina candidate Ben Bishop starts for Tampa Bay. Puck drop is scheduled for just after 7:30 PM.

If you’re looking for a way to pass some time until puck drop, check out the first episode of NHL Revealed. Lots of good Senators content in this episode, beginning at around the 34 minute mark. We learn that Karlsson is an ambidextrous cowboy, Turris likes a ten ounce steak and Paul MacLean wants the work boots buckled up tight. Worth a watch.

The Daily Chirp- Plenty of talk about the Senators being interested in Sabres forward Matt Moulson the past couple days. Black Aces wrote a good piece on the subject here. Clearly adding a guy like Moulson makes some sense but it certainly won’t be easy with so many teams expected to be in the running. One source on the Moulson to Ottawa rumours- “Not likely”.

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    I have a feeling if Moulson was coming here it would be kept extremely hush hush but a top nine looking something like this.

    McArthur – Turris – Ryan
    Conacher – Zibby – Moulson
    Greening(Stone) – Spezza – Michalek(Stone)

    Neil – Smith – Condra

    Looks damn scary, have Stone in () as I suspect one of those two would be moved along with some prospects Tim Murray liked.

  • The Apostle

    I think we have the pieces to get Moulson but I don’t want us to use them if he’s going to be a rental. However I think there will be plenty of teams in on him and most of those will stil have their 1st rounder so I doubt we will be Buffalo’s partner of choice.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      I don’t know that another 1st rounder this year will be a deal breaker…It really isn’t a great draft, haven’t really heard anyone say they are excited.

      • The Apostle

        Buffalo already have 2 or 3 I think. Whilst I agree that this draft doesn’t seem to be one to be particularly excited about we are all aware that TM likes to wheel and deal during the draft and I could see them packaging a couple of picks to move up.

        I also think there will be other teams who will offer up more prospects

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Not sure….he is still just a rental after-all.

          Until he signs I doubt anything is close.

  • The Apostle

    also and even though I’m fine with what MacLean is doing, please use this e-mail as a jumping point for an ultimately pointless what is the coach doing debate…

  • Godless_Lawyer

    Moulson to Ottawa doesn’t make a lot of sense, if only because it would involve feeding a divisional rival some prospects or young players.I think the newly established family connection and the fact that Tim Murray is familiar with Ottawa’s prospects probably drives the rumour more than anything – but I don’t think it makes the trade any more desirable from Bryan Murray’s perspective.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Methot scratched for a 2nd game? Crazy! Either the coach really felt he needed to send a message to Methot (and by extension, the team), or maybe a trade? It’s really difficult to imagine him being dealt. We need to add a top-4 to our D, not lose one (as much as everybody talks about adding a forward, D is really our biggest weakness). Either way, something is going on here.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Although it does seem odd to me, I don’t necessarily think it means anything is imminent.

      I have a feeling Methot saying he is ok with it and respects the decision is basically his way of saying “I was giving shit for speaking out about the decision and have an extra game because of it”

    • Tooks

      I guess the Sens Org dont see it as a weakness as Murray has mentioned they would like to add another top 6. Methot + for Kane?

      Although Maurice really likes Kane now, developing him into a young leader.

      • sprucesens

        that could definitely be a building block, but it would sting to lose methot. Unless they are comfortable with the D coming through, including Ceci, and maybe claesson next year, and they know what’s going on with Phillips, I really have a hard time seeing them move methot.

      • Sensnation

        Methot + everything maybe. No way in the world Methot is the starting line for a Kane trade.

      • TookieIs100PercentRight

        Great post Tooks!
        Not a bad trade offer too, but Murray has been reluctant to trade Methot so…

  • Tooks

    Hmmm Methot expected to play again tonight, now he’s a healthy scratch, not injury scratch, healthy scratch…

    This cannot be a non issue, obviously PMac aint prepared to discuss further into it and Methot might lash out at media again. I mean damn, there is so much a player can take when guys like Cowen, Gryba, PW46 play before him…

    • Doc

      Non-issue.

      See? Simple.

      • TookieIs100PercentRight

        Chirp (who is basically a photocopy of the organization, no offence man) saying is a non-issue should basically have you worried. It’s basically damage control.
        There IS an issue here. Methot is one of our best players, he’s being sat for no reason AND he’s unhappy about it. This could turn into a major fiasco for the org so Mustache had best treat lightly.

    • sprucesens

      yeah, it could be a showcasing of other D for a trade, since there is no way we have room for them all past this year. And I imagine that info wouldn’t be told to other players that see it as healthy scratch and missing out on playing time. Not much other reason for it, unless there is an injury, and feels good about it, but maclean and docs feel otherwise I suppose

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        Good point, I would see who has an elevated role tonight, and I suspect they are the one that is being looked at(I still have a feeling if a D gets moved it will be Cowen)

        • sprucesens

          yup, very well could be, especially if we are looking hard at someone like Ladd, byfuglien, kane, or wheeler out of Winnipeg, just to name a few. Then the moulson rumours, cammalleri and hemsky stuff. Who knows whats going on. But thats’ what makes it fun, and gives us crap to argue about. lol

        • Sensnation

          Cowen will not be moved. It’s only the fans that have a hate on for him.

          • PraiseAlfie11

            Cowen has been very respectable since december.

    • SensChirp

      I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again- More goes into a Coach’s decision than what we see during the games.

      • Doc

        Silly Chirp and his common sense.

      • boom

        No offense Chirp, but that rationale would apply to all lineup decisions, meaning we shouldn’t question any of them?
        Kinda weak, if you ask me. This season has seen more strange decisions from the coach than any in recent memory, particularly given MacLean’s mantra around “the best players will play”.
        As an example, I have defended Cowen in the past (mostly to Tookie) but you’d be hard-pressed to find many fans who think he has out-played Methot, or Wiercioch, for that matter.
        I have to believe that there is something else gping on here. The alternative is that something is clouding MacLean’s judgement, in my opinion.

        • SensChirp

          I’m not saying don’t question the decision. But just consider the fact that there’s other factors at play. Even the “best players play” line that everybody likes to repeat is about more than what happens in the game.

          I don’t understand all of MacLean’s decisions. But I get this one.

          • boom

            Fair enough. I do find it interesting that in both instances Methot has been held out, he reacted negatively after the 1st game, but then seemed to back-track before the 2nd game, saying he “understands the coaches decision”…

            I have no idea what this means, just find it interesting…

        • Miguel

          Bang on Boom!
          I have a feeling that tonights game will dictate the rest of this season.
          If we beat a strong TB team,
          PMAC has the bench, and
          If we lose handily, with lack of effort, PMAC has lost his bench… IMO

      • TookieIs100PercentRight

        Spill the beans then.

        • Sensnation

          Tookie’s alter ego is back too, did you two have a nice romantic getaway?

  • sens6

    I don’t get how our best defensive d-men gets scrathed 2 games in a row , I have no idea what is happening with either the coach and player but hope its resolved !!! How can’t you not insert methot into the line up makes no sense to me

    • Sensnation

      Best defensive dman? Hasn’t been this year. His lack of puck moving skills is also much more evident when he’s no longer playing with Karlsson. The management are working on molding their vision of this team and it just seems like Methot may not be in that vision, or is one of the lower pieces on the totem pole.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        I suspect anyone reading too much into this is looking for a story.

        It could be SO many things, like you said, maybe he isn’t in the plans…maybe they know 100% he is and are trying to decide out of the others who is and who isn’t…maybe it is a minor injury that Methot thinks he can play through, but the team disagrees…..etc

        • Sensnation

          I’d be amazed if it’s not 1 of you stink take a seat or we’re teaching you a lesson take a seat. He’s healthy, he says he is, team says he is, coach and him just aren’t seeing eye to eye.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Not a fan of Methot I gather from your posts.

          • Sensnation

            Never said that. He played great when we first got him and had nothing better, but over time I’ve learned his deficiencies and they really don’t match up with the way this team wants to play. I like him as a 5-6 dman, not a 2-3. Just wouldn’t be surprised if he gets moved as he seems to be falling out of favor with the coach. I’m just commenting on what I see, not about how I feel about the guy. He’s a great team guy imo, but his skills have a pretty low ceiling and it’s funny to read fans think he’s better than Cowen, when he offers half the skills a Cowen does, just obviously more experienced.

      • SenaTHOR

        Screw the puck moving skills if it means the d man skates it all the way up the ice. Just make quick passes to supporting forwards then jump up in the play. We don’t need players (dmen) going end to end every other shift and typically NOT score. It makes covering forwards become pseudo dmen which is scary in itselt. Watching Karlsson and Ceci makes me gag when they go 150ft and take a wide shot. They would be way more effective moving the puck up then dropping into the high slot or backdoor.(much higher scoring percentage).

      • sens6

        forget about pucking moving skills that’s not what he’s there for , but playing solid d he has been one of our best . yeah of course he’s not your 2-3 d-man but atleast playing 4-5 role and playing alongside the likes of gryba last couple of games rather then playing with karlsson does make a big difference! I would love to acquire girardi if the right deal would come along. I rather we acquire a top 2 d-man, ten a top six fwd but the price tag would be ridiculous !

        • Sensnation

          That’s what I’m saying though, BM and PM have always over stressed how much they want dman who can move the puck. It’s the whole system! They want you to move the puck 1st, play d 2nd, lay out hits 3rd. They would take 6 Karlssons if they could, because they believe in the end the winning formula is to be able to create the most chances to score that 1 extra goal when the time is needed.

          This is also why a Cowen gets more leeway than a Phillips, Methot or Gryba, because he has the chance to be able to do all 3 eventually.

          • Kohlmanator

            This, period.

            If Methot is disagreeing with the system, and not executing, the coach can sit him. Hell, if PM called the players to centre ice during practice and Methot played around or didn’t hustle, PM has to lay down the law. It could be nothing, trust the coach(es).

  • Kinger

    Methot is at the grip of holding onto 8 dman close to a trade deadline. Yes, it’s easy to sit any of PW46, Gryba, Cowen and or Phillips, but if you say you are making a trade you play your trade bait. This situation probably just got way blown out of proportion like everything in this fanbase. Or maybe I am completely wrong and there really is a bigger issue at hand.

  • my2sens

    Well, without Methot last game, we did fine. So I am not worried there. However, if we were to be using anyone as trade bait and show-casing them rather than playing Methot, please pull the trigger. Methot has been a great player for us and does not deserve to sit on the sidelines… of course unless there is another issue all together.

    Hopefully tonight Cowen will play to his size and crush St Louis. He’s a Sens killer!!

    With that – 3-0 Sens – GO SENS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Alcatraz

    Meh who cares. I’m tired of the endless debate of questioning coaching/gm decisions
    Methot will not make or break our game tonight, and everyone should realize that

    • Sensnation

      Exactly!

    • Miguel

      disagree, we need our best to compete with TB, anything less is risking a very important 2 points,
      This is not about PMac, this is about the sens putting out there best, Pmac can send a message off the ice, and let MM know who is boss, you do not risk the 2 points

      • SensChirp

        He did that in Washington. And then Methot went to the media. Coach had no choice but to sit him a second game. Quotes from Methot today show the message was received.

        Onward and upward.

        • Miguel

          Chirp again really respect you, but do you feel it is worth risking 2 points?
          If Clouston were to bench our top D to send a message in this same scenario would it be accepted the same way? Hell No
          Sorry bud, but this is crossing the line when you are willing to risk 2 points for personal reasons
          And again not the first coaching decisions that has been questions ina season that the Sens are underachieving.
          Pmac may risk losing the faith of his players as well after this stunt

          • SensChirp

            Yes, I absolutely do feel it’s necessary. But I don’t think they are “risking two points” by sitting Methot.

          • Miguel

            Honestly
            if it is game 7 and you need the win which D out of the following do you start
            Methot
            Cowen
            Phillips
            Gryba?
            and please answer honestly

          • Richard Gough

            Not Phillips !!

          • Hax

            This just in: Tonight is *not* game 7.

          • Miguel

            just as Chirp so very “smartly” stated above it could ery much well be the difference between making the playoffs, and not making the playoffs, so it might as well be a game 7

          • Hax

            Yes they could. But as someone else stated, there are about 80 points on the table between now and the end of the season. If MacLean feels sitting Methot out tonight indirectly helps the team in the long run then it’s the right call.

            FWIW: I’m going to stop trying to explain this. None of us have all the info so why try to pretend like we know better than the guy who does?

          • bluebuyyoo

            If I treated every game of the season as a game 7 or 2 points that must be won I would likely have a stroke long before the playoffs had begun. Just go with it Miguel. This is a good team.

          • PraiseAlfie11

            If 2 points is make or break, would have hated seeing your head expolde in october and november :)

            I still remeber tooks saying a november game was “must win”. I prefer to think teams that play like the sens have of late don’t miss the playoffs. Loses are bound to happen to everyone, but generally, I’m happy with the team.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Although I do agree…these points are just as important as game 82s points.

          • Tooks

            No, but he asked you a very simple question which you still didnt answer.

          • Miguel

            In my best police detective voice
            “JUST ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION” :-)

          • Hax

            I think (to answer your question – even though you’ll use it against me) it’s safe to say I’d sit Gryba and Corvo if this was a game 7. Though I’d consider Wiercioch sitting as well. I would absolutely dress Methot though in a “must win” assuming he’s healthy etc. I would also suggest that if tonight was game 82 and we needed 2 points then Mac would dress Methot too. But it’s not game 82 and while we need 2 points we simply don’t know if those 2 points will make or break playoffs yet.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            I am actually shocked to see you imply that these two points are less important than game 82 strictly due to the fact that we aren’t aware of the significance of these 2 points.

            Nothing drives me more nuts than fans thinking late season points are more important….personally I would much rather not need any points in the last 10 games to make the playoffs so that if anyone with nagging injuries can rest them.

          • Hax

            Not saying that exactly. More based on the assumption that MacLean sitting Methot tonight is because he feels it helps the team going forward.

            Completely made-up example:

            There are 31 games (62 points) left after tonight.
            Let’s say that playing Gryba tonight over Methot reduces our chance of winning by 10% (even though it’s probably not that much). That’s like giving up 0.2 points tonight.
            Whatever “the reason” is (message to Methot, lighting a fire under Methot, vote of confidence to Gryba, message to the team – whatever) just needs to increase the points we get the rest of the way by 0.2 points to make it worth while.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Fair enough…Not sure I agree that there is an issue, but obviously don’t know much about the situation.

          • Hax

            Yeah my whole comment is based on the assumption that we’d be a better team tonight with Methot – which we really don’t know for sure (though it seems that Methot is indeed 100%).

          • Miguel

            Fair enough Hax, and as you are the resident optimist of Senschirp, I would never hold anything against you, as we are all on the same Sens Army.
            You have though agreed with me, that in no way would you ever sit Methot if these were crucial points.
            I say to you that if we miss the playoffs by two points, these may have been the very two points we threw away.
            Just sayin…and thank you for your honest and prudent answer

          • Hax

            Again, while points are important any night, I have to assume that whatever SMALL risk there is in sitting Methot tonight, MacLean feels the benefit the rest of the way (31 more games) is worth it.

          • Tooks

            PMac is risking points by not dressing the best lineup he possibly can. Cuz he wants to drive a point home? which is a very lame point. Methot did not deserve the benching, he should be allowed to say that to the media if he wants.

          • PraiseAlfie11

            2 points when 80 points remain on the table is a good tradeoff to address a problem.

            Again, not certain it will “cost” 2 points.

          • Miguel

            not when we are in the fight we are in when these 2 points could very well be the difference

          • Tooks

            Not a very smart comment, those 2 points could be the diff in playoffs or not in a very very tight East wildcard.

          • PraiseAlfie11

            Ok…so assume he broke curfew. Others see he can get away with it, so they start breaking the team rules. Room is lost and they only get 30 out of 80 points.

            How big is 2 again?

          • TookieIs100PercentRight

            Curfew? Are these schoolboys?
            The guys hit the pubs after games or even on non game nights.
            Everyone knows this. Just hit Moxie’s or the Cabin or any number of pubs downtown and you may run into players. But they’re not sat on some stupid point of principle. You play your best team, if some of your team are badasses, AWESOME! No one ever won with a team full of choir boys.

        • Tooks

          So he was benched because he went to the media to say he wasnt happy? Talk about abuse of power, this a dictatorship!! LOL

          Benching a guy cuz he spoke to the media is a bit harsh, especially when he could help us on the back end vs a very good team.

          • Doc

            God you’re dense.

    • Tooks

      We’ll see tonight I guess.

  • Richard Gough

    So what is the asking price for Moulson and will he sign a long term contract with the Sens?

    • esk

      hopefully only way we get him is if its a trade and sign

      • Richard Gough

        I am wondering what that is going to cost use. And I hope BM doesn’t over pay for him

  • Miguel

    To those who say we showcase for a trade,
    and to those who say, it is Mac sending a message
    and to those who say other factors go into these decisions
    IF and WHEN we miss out on the playoffs by 2 points, b/c once again we sat our best defensive d-man, so this stubborn Mule can send a message,
    I want Euge or BM to send a message back to PMAC!
    No fukin way in hell does Cowen or Phillips start over Methot when you are in a “Playoff” strectch to try and make the post season!
    this is obsurd!

    • The Apostle

      is it Wednesday again?

    • SensChirp

      Deep breaths, miguel. Trust the Coach on this one.

      • Miguel

        I sure do hope you have more details than I do, b/c this is a very risky move by PMAC. If the players are behind MM, we are in for a very scary night.
        This game will be very telling,
        Sigh Sigh Sighn…. thanks Chirp that does feel much better :-)

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        K Chirp let it out…this shows you know soomething

      • TookieIs100PercentRight

        I’ll trust Mac when he stops making questionable moves as he has all season.
        I’ll trust Mac when this team is at the top of the East standings.
        I’ll trust Mac when one of our best players isn’t confused and held out on a point of principle!
        WINS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC!

    • Tooks

      With his googly eyes “Best players play” says PMac. Then stares at reporters…Which leaves the room with even more questions.

      • SensChirp

        There are no questions about this in the room.

        • Tooks

          IF we lose, hell even IF we win, media will ask that exact question, Why was Methot a healthy scratch.

          Pmac response will be anything but explanatory.

          • SensChirp

            It doesn’t really matter if fans understand the decision as long as the player gets it. Quotes from Methot today indicate that he gets it. That’s all that matters.

          • Tooks

            Well, apparently, he better get it, otherwise its another game in the press box…Geez!

          • TookieIs100PercentRight

            Quotes today indicate he gets it? Where did he say: “I get it.” I read that nowhere! All I heard was that he wants to play and has no idea why he’s being held out!

        • TookieIs100PercentRight

          Methot is better than Wier, Gryba and maybe even Cowen.
          So where is the best players play philosophy?

          • Sensnation

            Hahahahaha!

    • laffin681021

      Don’t fix it if it’s not broke.

    • Cicero

      Last year we made the playoffs with a broken lineup and PMac earned the Jack Adams. We can go a couple of games without Methot without the wheels fallnig off the wagon.

      Something’s amiss and it’s impacting the team, perhaps something in the locker room or off the ice. It’s not really very important.

      • Miguel

        Agreed, he proved he can coach a team without stars to win one round,
        and he is now proving that with some real NHL stars in his lineup he cannot built a playoff contending team,
        He obvioiusly prefers plugs like
        Phillips, Greening, Condra, who have NEVER sat a game, over his stars like Spezza, Methot, and eveh Ryan ( I must have kicked his dog or something )
        so I agree something is amiss… and I fear that PMAC just may be losing his bench, if this favouring of weaker players over better players continues

        • Hax

          But Miguel – you do realize that it might be exact opposite right? If you’re worried about him “losing his bench” don’t you think that if Methot isn’t working as hard as he should (who knows?) that he’d lose the bench by PLAYING him rather than sitting him?

    • Zelle

      They’ve won before with Methot out. Will you stop beating this drum if the Sens win tonight?

      • Miguel

        paarupapampum :-)
        absolutely, if we win I will gladly shut up for now,
        if we win by 5-0 I will do my best to never ever questioni BM again
        But if we lose by 5….

  • Kinger

    Why does this team have to play with a #Moneypuck mentality, urgh.

  • The Apostle

    If we lose tonight it won’t be because Methot isn’t in the team. Just like when we beat washington it wasn’t because he was on the bench.

    • Tooks

      We beat the Caps cuz they cant score without Ovie.

      • Kinger

        Also, Caps didn’t win because Green wasn’t intense enough and would rather hug it out with EK65 – #Truculent

      • Zelle

        Incorrect. Sens have swept the Caps in three games, two of which Ovi were in, him having a total of one point.

        • CUP 2014-15

          Caps also undefeated this year in games without OVIE prior to the sens win.

    • Miguel

      Wash sucked, Andy stood on his head, and we got timely goals.
      tonight you had go with “Best players Play” or we could be in for a troubling night

  • CUP 2014-15

    Huge win coming tonight !!!!! Looking forward to the lads lighting up Big Ben. Need the PP to be on tonight. I was worried about the PW, EG combo last game but they looked good together. Need a great workman’s effort against a very fast TBay team. GO SENS GO

    • SenaTHOR

      PW still scares me in our own end.

      • Hax

        Me too but he and Gryba did both look good Tuesday night. Only one game of course but I went in to that game pretty worried about that pair.

      • CUP 2014-15

        I sure do feel more comfortable when EG or PW are with MM. That being said, I am happy they had a good one last game but Patty scares me when making quick passes to his D partner in the D zone and EG when he pinches. Growing pains baby !!!!!!!

  • Hax

    The real problem here is Joe Corvo. If we didn’t have 8 D (and Corvo is clearly #8) we’d have gotten everyone plenty of games so far and there’d be no temptation for Mac to sit Methot an extra game or two.

    (Kidding – mostly)

    • Sensnation

      I think you hit the nail on the head here. Ceci was not expected to be this far along this year. Corvo was signed as insurance, with Boro able to be called up as needed. If Ceci hadn’t made the jump this year, we’d be looking at a big dose of Boro-Corvo in that 6th spot and wondering what we could do about our D!

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    Just a random thought chirp….Is there a relatively easy way to maybe incorporate polls into the website?

    Could just sort of be a fun way to open some discussions

    • http://www.crashthenet.ca/ Luc Wolfe

      well he’s using wordpress so there’s a lot of easy ways to add polls

      • Hax

        So you’re an expert?

        (Sens quote and a joke, not being a dick)

        • http://www.crashthenet.ca/ Luc Wolfe

          not an expert, but I have used wordpress and I did add polls in my time using it. I also run an online community and ran other sites in the last 10 years, strictly hobby for me.

          • Hax

            Again, wasn’t questioning at all – just tossing out that old Andy Sutton quote as a joke.

          • http://www.crashthenet.ca/ Luc Wolfe

            okay, i’ll shut up now

  • Cicero

    The chatter about Methot sitting converges with talk about trades and who we can afford to keep and lose, if we consider both questions in light of last year’s amazing ‘Pesky Sens’ and how they overcame adversity.

    Injuries could, and should, have broken our team completely, but the Sens team concept and young talent stepped-in and we had a helluva ride. PMac won the Jack Adams.

    My point is that sitting out Methot, for whatever reason, should not and cannot change anything in terms of team readiness for TB nor impact our final position after 82 games.

    Second, besides a few untouchables, we’re going to have to give up young talent for a top scoring forward, and probably a defenceman too. But I really don’t think a trade is going to happen unless it’s a REALLY good deal for a top LW who can step in right away, fit into the system alongside Spezza, and make an immediate impact.

    • CUP 2014-15

      No question there is an issue and not an injury. Anyone who is buying this sticking with a wining lineup has not watched Mac coach. He never stays with a wining lineup. Even in the play-offs he makes moves after wins. Whatever it is, there is reason for it, so MM did something that twisted Mac. The coach needs to be in control, he’s not an ass like Torts so this will be over tomorrow morning and we can move on.
      In regards to a trade, I can’t see MM going anywhere. He will be our senior D man next year if CP is not resigned. The rest of the D is 25 or less. They are big boys and will work it out as long as they don’t get childish with each other in the media.

  • SensChirp

    Does this help?

    @TSNSteve I have no doubt the Methot benching this week and back in December is a consequence of behaviour – not bo-bos or flus.

    @TSNSteve Practice is like school. My Dad used to say, if you’re not healthy
    enough to go to school, you’re not healthy enough to play tonight.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Practice….are we talking about practice.

      haha

    • Hax

      But “our best players play” and losing the room and stuff!!!??!?!

      • Miguel

        you just finished answering that MM is one of our best players, so by benching him you are not playing your best players, is that not a contraction?
        Secondly, you should wait until we see the outcome of tonights game before doing your peacock strut.
        again for the record I hope I am wrong, and we win by 5 goals!
        but if we lose by 5 goals…

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          MARK METHOT IS HAVING CONTRACTIONS!!!!

          OMG I know why he is sitting….he is a women!

        • Hax

          Easy big fella – not “strutting” here.

          And I think you’re talking “the best players play” a bit too literally.

          • Miguel

            you calling me fat!
            hey I am plump not fat :-)
            and I think that is the only way we can take that statement

          • Hax

            Fluffy?

          • Miguel

            let me guess you are 6’1″ and all of 98lbs?
            Kidding Hax… healthy debate on our beloved Sens
            love the banter
            Go Sens Go!

    • Hax

      All kidding aside, if this is true and the “real reason” is about Methot not giving 100% in practice then I’m completely fine with PMac laying down the law.

      Though a bit surprised folks haven’t brought up the Regin thing from a couple years back.

      • Miguel

        holy crap! really? Practice.. Practice… WE TALKING ABOUT PRACTICE!
        How about those bums who cost us games?
        Cowen Phillips,
        cmon we talkin bout Practice :-)

    • thepez

      I think it helps if this is truly what is going on. Mac has always respected the veterans. This seems to be out of character.
      I guess I’m trying to figure out if it is a showcase, is the showcase for Ottawa or for the rest of the NHL. For Ottawa I mean that they want to see if they can play without Methot. I really would be disappointed if one of Methot, PW46 or Cowen would be traded. The Sens are on the verge of having the best group of d-men in the NHL, trading one of them would put a dent in that

      • Hax

        I agree but there’s also Borowiecki and Claesson coming up soon. Doesn’t mean we have to make a move really (Corvo is all but gone) but it is getting crowded. And if we want to upgrade on D, which I think we’d like to do if we can, we’d absolutely need to move at least one guy out. Methot likely has more value than most other guys.

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Methot and Cowen likely have the most value of realistic to move guys.

          Although I wouldn’t be shocked to see Boro thrown into a deal as his 1 way kicks in next year which potentially causes even more headaches for us.

          • Hax

            Agree that Boro’s 1-way looks like a headache in hindsight. But not sure another team would commit to that one way either. So yeah Methot (for teams looking for help right away) and Cowen (for teams looking a bit more to the future) are likely the best assets we have on the blueline.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            I just keep scratching my head as to what D we could possibly be after….Finding another top 6 is fairly easy, but we have so many D as it stands now, and a few that with shuffling etc kind of fit our needs.

            If the team has decided that this isn’t really a season we have a realistic shot I could see us just standing pat and using what we have next year….Address the top 6(or 9 depending on the player) need, and see how next year pans out prior to getting the D we need.

          • thepez

            I know I’m going to get bashed for this but any chance that the Sens look at trading Chris Philips to the Bruins, for Ryan Spooner? The Bruins need a vet on D. To me this is similar to the time the Sens trade for Bondra and sent a young Brooks Laich to Washington. Looking back, wish we still had Laich.

          • sprucesens

            I asked about that a while back, since the B’s had interest. I think it depends on what we are doing with Phillips next year, and I hope murray is suggesting retirement, over us resigning him. We just dont’ have room, and father time has caught up to him. anywho, debate!

          • Hax

            My only thought on that is that we’d be VERY VERY young without Phillips back there. Don’t get me wrong, I’d want him as #6 for sure – or even a 6/7 guy if he’d accept that. But if you simply subtract Phillips (and Corvo) from this year’s group I think we’re way too young. Now if you bring in a guy that’s around 30 then that’s different I guess.

          • Miguel

            I would take young and good, over old, slow, and ineffective

          • CUP 2014-15

            Will take much more then CP to get Spooner

          • thepez

            I would agree it would take more to get Spooner, normally. However the Bruins really need a vet plus the Bruins are loaded at the forward position and their key players are all signed for a while. If the Bruins were not pushing for a Cup, I would not have mentioned this type of trade. I would hope that Murray has at least inquired about soemthing like this.

          • CUP 2014-15

            I agree pez to a point, the problem is there are many other teams out there that would offer something better then CP for Spooner.

          • Miguel

            holy crap we could only wish… that would only be a dream though, we could never get Spooner for CP4.
            really not sure we can get more than a 3 or 4th round for a CP4

          • Hax

            Totally agree. I think if we bring in anyone on D they’d have to be a slam-dunk improvement. No need to bring in a bottom pairing guy – he’d have to be top 4 if not a partner for Karlsson (pushing the rest of our current guys down one slot). And really can’t think of anyone out there that fits and would conceivably be traded.

            Similar with our top 9 – plenty of internal options and would only want to bring someone in from outside if they were Ryan/Kane caliber.

          • sprucesens

            one thing to remember about boro, yes its a 1way, but it doesn’t mean he is on the team. He can play the entire year in the AHL if we want to, he just makes more money. It only gets complicated if he is called up, and we ever want to send him back down. My best guess of our deadline deals are a 2 for 1 D trade, corvo gone as a rental, and michalek traded for a 1st if we feel we can get that, and have a prospect fill the spot.

          • Miguel

            This latest juggling will most surely cause BM to do what he does best, and find the best deal for a D-man, it is past the point of moving someone

          • Sensnation

            Until they figure out who their top 6 dmen are there’s no rush. Also, BM won’t know which dman will return the most value until closer to the trade deadline, so again no rush. Not sure how that’s past the point, aside from fans just being impatient with the coach’s decisions.

          • bishbosh

            Boro is exempt from waivers next year regardless of his contract.

          • bishbosh

            Even with Boro being on a one way deal he still is exempt from waivers for next season or 60 ganmes (which ever comes first first) – so all we are doing by giving him a one way deal is committing to the dollars.

          • Hax

            Very true – but then the “budget” word creeps in a bit though. But yes, we can treat him like it’s a 2-way contract for the most part (call ups etc).

          • Sensnation

            Agreed and those dollars are peanuts!

          • Jacques

            I agree, left handed D-men are what the Sens are Peddling! Karlsson,Ceci,and Gryba are solid on the right side.

          • Sensnation

            Don’t worry about Boro, his contract doesn’t force the sens hand in any way! If he’s top 6 d in camp next year keep him up, if not they’ll have no problem sending him to the minors or have him in the stands.

        • thepez

          If it is true that the Rangers are looking to trade Girardi, is that a guy that the Sens would look at with Methot in play?

        • CUP 2014-15

          Agree Hax, Gryba carries value beyond his skill and size as he is a righty and we have two righties that will be here forever. That raises his value and could be the guy moved. gotta love trade speculating.

          • Hax

            Man I would love to be a fly on the wall for one of Murray’s staff meetings. Hearing who they really do like, who they want to trade, what they feel they really need etc.

          • Jacques

            Gryba is the perfect 6 th D-man, he’s physical,pinches intelligently, he was rubbing out Capitals all game on Tuesday. I think the Sens will move a left handed shot. Cuz Claessen is the type of positive attitude, leader, physical,decent puck mover that PMAC would love having in there.Plus, he’ll be cheaper for a few years still. Methot will get moved in a package. Sure of it!

          • CUP 2014-15

            Hope your right Jacques, the point I was making was he has more value then he gets credit for. For some reason the media has little respect for him, just look at todays edition of the sixthsens with the numbers, he is again the top D in three areas and what does he get…small sample size where as they go off about PW needing to play, how is his sample size big enough? I also agree in regards to the Caps game, do you think Chipchura will go in hard after a puck the same way with Gryba again…I don’t think so, slow getting up after being drilled. Also take a look at Yost chart on Corsi a couple of days ago, his numbers are off the chart.

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      Steve is basically a mouthpiece for the team. When is the last time he said anything remotely contrary to the party line? I’m in the John Rodenburg cam! *pot stirring sound*.

      • bluebuyyoo

        Did you shit in the pot?

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    I respectr Paul Maclean as a coach and what he has done with this team in 3 years is amazing! But some of the decisions this year have got me scratching my head. I get Methot has potentiallly had off ice issues but 32 games left and we are fighting for a playoffs spot calls for desperation and we need some Ws so let your best players play. As a hard core sens fan, it kinda pisses me off because Methot is a fan favorite and I wish we could sign him to a long term deal but now I am getting worried about him, Ryan and others leaving town. We got a good team going for long term, why fuck it up? On the positive side, hoping for a good game tonight, GO SENS GO. Spezza scores tonight folks! sens take it 3-2

  • CUP 2014-15

    This is starting to head in the wrong direction on here. Let’s not start speculating that MM is not working hard enough in practice. There are many things that could cause a disconnect between boss and employee outside of performance. Maybe he had a spat with Reed, maybe he had a run in with someone else, maybe he was late for a practice or meeting. Let’s not speculate about MM’s work habits. GO SENS GO

    • Hax

      Agreed – and even if Warne is right it could be as simple as being late for practice by a few minutes or something else very minor. I don’t think it’s a case of Methot suddenly being lazy or a problem. Especially since today Methot is saying all the right things.

      Way too much energy being spent on this issue (myself included of course).

      • SensChirp

        Yup. He said behaviour not work habits in general.

      • Tooks

        Then why make your team not as good as it can be by benching a player for minor shit?

        • Sandy

          Because it sends the message to be more responsible..
          It could also be showcasing a player…

          • Miguel

            again at the risk of 2 crucial point… bad call

          • Sensnation

            Methot is crucial to nothing. He’s a good dman, not the difference maker you’re making him out to be Miguel

          • Miguel

            hope you are right,
            but he is certainly one of our top 2 d-men, and coach sits him, not a wise move IMO

          • Sensnation

            Miguel, I definitely agree that in your opinion he’s top 2 on our team. In mine he’s maybe 4th, just because of what he did previously. I really don’t think the coach and gm see him as importantly as you do.

          • Miguel

            really? humour me and please other than Karlsson, who is better than Methot right now?

          • Sensnation

            Honestly, my order right now is Karlsson, Cowen, Ceci, Phillips/Methot, Gryba, Wiercioch. Of course you’re in the anti-cowen anti-phillips camp so I do not expect we’ll agree here.

          • Miguel

            cmon man, that is just not fair, there is no way anyone can put Cowen or Phillips ahead of Methot,
            Poll please!
            90% of Sens fans will take Methot over Phillips or Cowen… easily!

          • Sensnation

            Miguel, do you understand the concept of an opinion? I said I get yours, but you shit all over mine. Honestly man, you asked a question, i answered. Learn to leave it at that, I don’t’ care for your poll or who’s more popular, I’ve followed this team since day 1 of the franchise, I coach sports so I look at things differently then you, so be it, we are each entitled to what we think and how we got there.

          • Zelle

            You talk as though the Sens don’t win games or play well without Methot in the lineup, which is untrue. I really like Methot, he’s an asset, no doubt. But if he’s sitting there is a reason, and your hate for the coach makes your opinion very biased.

          • Miguel

            what a minute, I never said I hate the coach,
            I do hate this benching to one of our best dmen
            I do hate his method of penalizing one player, when it in fact will hurts the teams chances of winning an important game.
            Again I do hope I am wrong and he is right.

          • Zelle

            Sorry that is just the impression I got as you call him a liar and an idiot, etc, etc…

          • TookieIs100PercentRight

            Remember Dry Island with Laviolette? They shipped out Carter and Richards because they liked to party hard, the Kings went on to win the Cup. Play hard party hard win hard!

    • Tooks

      You dont bench one of your better top 4 D’s cuz he’s a minute late or had a little spat with someone? We are in a very heated race for a wildcard, Methot is healthy and can play, he’s certainly an upgrade in our current top 4.

      I cant believe the coaches would not dress the best line up possible for the best chance to win because of trivial shit.

      • Sensnation

        Wrong again Tooks. This coach and management have always said you breed a winning environment by creating a winning environment. Letting anyone show up late or whenever they want is not in that formula. I know it seems like complex math, but it’s simple. You aren’t the best player if the coach doesn’t feel you’re giving your all and he has other options, simple as that!

        They want players here that practice, train and play the right way!

        • Tooks

          Please, enough with the fluff…

          Methot IS an upgrade to what we have now in our top 4, thats a FACT!

          And the only reason we know of thats keeping Methot out of our line up and being a healthy scratch is practice….practice?!!?

          Methot has been mostly good in games he has played, even adding some offense!

          I dont know man that seems like alot of BS to me. We are not dressing our better top 4 D because of minor issues.

          Lets hope our offense can pull this one out tonight!

          • Sensnation

            Oh Tooks, your opinion is not a fact. Go on vacation again please, it was so pleasant without you.

          • Tooks

            Methot is not an upgrade to what we have now?

            Is that what your saying?

            IF so then, I give up, I mean, nope, dont even know what to say. Wow.

          • Sensnation

            Yes please give up. Put the keyboard away, turn off your computer and never come back! Simple request isn’t it.

          • CUP 2014-15

            LOL, If that happens it’s a night of drinking on me. No such luck I fear.

          • TookieIs100PercentRight

            How about the fact (yes FACT) thta Mehot and Karlsson were our best pairing last year? How about the fact (yes FACT) that Methot was invited to Olympic camp? How about the fact (yes FACT) that he has been covted by outside GMs in nearly every trade discussion with Murray?
            Tooks is 100% right!

            TOOKS100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • CUP 2014-15

            FACT-Mathot played with Gryba last year.

          • Sensnation

            Hahaha, exactly!

            Tookie and his wife need to learn the definition of fact, I think they are confused.

          • Sensnation

            Fact that Methot and an injured player were our best pairing? Sorry where’s your sample size to support that fact?

            Methot invited to Olympic camp and then what … never mentioned as an option again, never considered, didn’t even get a call apologizing when the team was announced. In other words he disappeared from their radar faster than he came on it.

            Where are the facts supporting other gms coveting him? I saw 1 yes ONE rumor mention he was discussed along with others. Facts are not your made up matrix, join real life!

  • Hax

    What would everyone’s ideal top 7 be next season? And what happens to the rest?

    Karlsson, Cowen, Methot and Ceci are all locks for me (though I’d be prepared in case Ceci regresses a bit which wouldn’t be shocking given how young he is).

    Corvo’s long gone of course but I would resign Phillips.

    Wiercioch and Gryba battle for the last slot.

    Claesson stays in the minors as would Borowiecki though they’d both get a shot to push their way in at camp.

    Last thing I’d try to do between now and the start of next season is look at packaging some of the last four guys I mentioned to get a real stud if at all possible. If instead of “stud” I could get a legitimate all star by including one of Cowen/Methot I’d consider that as well.

    • CUP 2014-15

      JC Karl
      MM CC
      Boro Gryba
      resign CP as a 7th only or go and get a vet as no.7 let Cleasson play 65+ gms in bingo. PW will help bring in that top 6 frwd. along with two prospects like prince and Puemple etc.

    • Tooks

      Methot Karlsson
      PW46 Ceci
      Boro Gryba
      Phillips

    • Sensnation

      Cowen-Karlsson
      Methot-Ceci
      Phillips/Gryba-Wiercioch

      Let Phillips and Gryba rotate if he’s resigned, if not let Gryba/Claesson.

  • MethotToMyMadness

    Wow, heated debate on the Methot scratch tonight. I’m sure we’ll be fine, we did great against Washington. Keep up the strong work guys.

    As for St. Louis. My company Hockey pool (where I have him picked) today shows him on the injured list. I just looked at the Yahoo leagues, it shows St Louis as dealing with an Illness, and he missed Tuesdays practice. Say’s he’s not expected to miss, but this means he won’t be at 100%. Could be good news for us.

  • SenaTHOR

    I don’t buy the way too young argument. How much have corvo and Phillips really helped the team win that could not have been done by younger guys who have been sitting.

    • Hax

      Don’t take this the wrong way, but I assume Phillips (and to a far lesser extent Corvo) have actually helped a lot. Just in ways that most fans can’t see or appreciate.

      • SenaTHOR

        It’s all opinion anyway I haven’t received any consultation money from BM

        • Hax

          Very true. I just think that if we’re too young (age and games played)
          we’re vulnerable to slumps or giving into pressure etc. There’s more to winning a cup than just the games. Younger players can often get
          caught up in media BS, lose their focus, get nervous etc. If Murray
          decides that the young guys we have aren’t really at risk of that then
          cool, I’d just like to have a couple of vets mixed in.

          • CUP 2014-15

            Or we could become the Oilers East

      • SenaTHOR

        To me that’s why a d coach is hired.

        • Tooks

          Yes, hopefully our D coach is adapted to todays game.

      • Tooks

        Sure Phillips probably helped some but I doubt he’s been a mentor for Ceci. Ceci is up here cuz of his skills, none of which we can thank Phillips or Richardson for. He’s a gifted kid that plays a pretty good overall game with not many weaknesses. Sure he could be a bit better defensively but it sure aint Phillips gonna teach him that. CP4 and Luke played in an era where clutch & Grab was key to their success. Cant do that no more and Ceci was brought up, thankfully with the 67′s great coaching staff, a coaching staff that understands this era of speed and smarts.

        Ceci was already ready for the NHL while playing for Owen Sound and his little pro adjustment in Bingo. We need more D like him. Hard to get, I know.

        • Sensnation

          Yeah Luke Richardson’s style is so unable to grow and mesh in today’s hockey that he’s completely successful since he’s taken over Bingo. Nice one Tooks, you got it figured out! lol If you think clutching and grabbing is gone, instead of just mutated to a more subtle form, you got a lot to learn.

    • Sensnation

      Personally I think our veteran leadership has made the difference between where we are today and where Edmonton is. They’ve shown these young guys how to be professional on a daily basis and how to deal with everything that comes with the job, the media, the fans and so on. There’s a right way and a wrong way to mature, our team is obviously doing it the right way!

      • Tooks

        Wrong, Edmonton has the worse front office/coaching staff in the NHL. MacT is a clown, the idiot coach, whats his face, doesnt know what to do, litterally, he’s dumbfounded in most interviews, completely lost. His assistants dont even talk to him. I dont know why he’s still in that job. Kreuger was just starting to get a system in that kinda worked, he was a no BS coach, had his star players playing pretty well together.

        The Bryz move blew in their face, Scrivens was an ok move, I mean anything at this point they have to try. He might turn out ok.

        Ference was good but he’s only 1 man. Smid trade was hilariously stupid.

        • Sensnation

          You realize Edmonton’s failed over several coaches, gms, players, and other management, not just the current circus. Yes they are wrong to have built from the front back instead of back out, but they also have had the entire wrong mix of veterans and prospects the entire time as well. Blame it on the office/staff all you want, that’s still where we’d be without our veterans, which again is what was said, cause if our gms thought our veterans were useless during a rebuild he’d think exactly like that Edmonton staff you just criticized.

  • Sandy

    The scratch of Methot against Wash was to rest his injury.,. rumoured to be a minor hip injury… That could turn into a more serious injury if not taken care of.
    McLean has done the… don’t want to mess with a winning lineup before.. .maybe it’s just that.
    I would prefer Methot in the lineup tonight.. but they chose to give Wiercioch more playing time. This kid needs to play. It would be better if Phillips was given a rest.. but it is what it is..
    8 D is not an ideal situation. I assume they are trying to trade Corvo for a bag of pucks.. but other teams think the price is too high.. LOL
    Shoot at Bishop’s feet… lots of pucks 5-hole.. Don’t go high on him.. don’t stand much of a chance to score doing that since he takes up most of the net…
    Hoping and praying for points tonight. 1 is better than 0.. but 2 are best..

    • Hax

      Only flaw is the bag skate. If Methot’s hip wasn’t 100% why the bag skate? Unless maybe it was a case of worrying that he might get hit the wrong way I guess.

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      Meth himself said he was good to go and our genius coach said it was a “bobo”.
      Mac is coaching us OUT of a playoff spot!

      • Sandy

        Mac said he relied on the medical and training staffs on making decisions on injured players. They didn’t think he should go against Wash and he didn’t.. A minor hip injury can get much worse if not healed.
        I guess you didn’t listen to McLean’s presser yesterday..
        Tonight’s is more about letting Wiercioch/Gryba play to reward them for the good game they had against Wash..

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Any one know where I could find an NHL revealed link? Youtube took it down

  • sprucesens

    interesting to note, after the feb8(?) olympic trade freeze, there is only 1 week when it is lifted until the deadline. So we are basically what, 3 weeks left of actual trades? Wouldn’t be surprised to see a few moves coming soon. I really can’t see us floating with 8 D. Chirp, you should do some digging and see how the organization is handling Phillips, and how he feels about staying. Will definitely spark some good debate. He is basically the biggest domino on D right now, and will get the ball rolling if we know/he knows, what his future plans are.
    Is he hungry for a cup, and willing to accept a trade to somewhere like Boston, who wants a vet D? Does he want to retire a senator, regardless of outcome, and if so, this year? How does the org feel about him going forward? should be interesting for a topic on an off day. Maybe during the Olympics or something?

    • Jacques

      He’s on Boston’s list they keep talking about. I have a feeling Methot is going to be moved in a package. A good young player will be coming to Ottawa.

  • Roar…

    Enjoy his decisions or not, P-Mac has managed to get the team playing much better hockey since the quarter mark of the season. The last 20+ games have been much better. He`s managed to do this while dealing with a deficient roster that includes 6th or 7th D guys Phillips, Gryba & Corvo playing way more minutes than is logical. Not to mention a rookie in Ceci having to play early to cover up for the organizations lack of interest in acquiring a proper top four stabilizer this past off-season.

    1. Anderson – Largely he was right. His faith in his goaltender through the tough times has allowed Anderson to play much better in his last 10+ starts. Maybe he`s not playing out of his mind but he`s playing a hell of a lot better than he was.

    2. Conacher – Wasn`t doing much in terms of point production for a long stretch of time with a lot of minutes. His underlying numbers however were pretty decent. P-Mac`s faith has seen him turn it around a bit and become a valuable player in Z`s line.

    3. Michalek – He`s rebounded quite a bit as he`s gotten healthier. Clearly has much more jump than early in the year.

    ———–

    If P-Mac is sitting Methot as a healthy scratch you should simply assume as a fan that he has a damn good reason for it. All players in this organization should be held accountable for their actions. Especially if they are detrimental to the team (nobody arguing Methot hasn`t been quite as good this year as last). The team likes his game in general, I suspect what`s happening is they are challenging him to raise his compete level and bring it every night. More consistency in practice and in games. He was a monster the next few games after we scratched him last time. Expect that again.

    • Zelle

      Until he does something mind blowingly ridiculous I think we should give Pmac the time he needs this season to structure his team. It’s not easy to lead a team, and to have everyone respect you AND like you is difficult, while making everyone happy is impossible. I want Methot playing as much as the next Sens fan but I have to believe it’s for a good reason, like you said.

  • Roar…

    I just had an oddly chilling thought… what happens in an NHL climate where Crosby & Malkin are locked in at a reasonable cap hit relative to an increasing NHL salary cap? Like when Vanek decides he’d like to score 100 points on Crosby’s wing this summer… personally I think the East might get lucky as he loves playing with Tavares but still…

  • NickofTime

    So much not to like about this lineup BM needs to do something. There are at least 4 roster players (Phillips, Corvo, Condra & Conacher) plus JOB making an NHL salary in Bingo who need to be moved out to improve this lineup. Phillips should be the healthy scratch tonight not Methot. If Buffalo would take Phillips as a mentor for their younger defence they could easily re-sign him for 2 or 3 yrs. Add Puempel, a pick & maybe a prospect goalie & Ottawa should have enough good pieces to make a deal for Moulson, hell BM should go after both Moulson & Stafford.

    To Buffalo: Phillips, Conacher, Condra, Puempel, 2015 1st rd pick, Brassard & JOB
    To Ottawa: Moulson & Stafford
    - Buffalo gets three roster players plus JOB who is NHL ready & two prospects plus another 1st rd pick for next season. Buffalo has two 1st rd ;icks for this yr & will have two 1st rd picks for next yr to build a future with. They get a good NHL veteran mentor, they get a possession player in C

    • Jacques

      Stafford sucks!

    • Richard Gough

      No way I would trade that first next season Who know that 1st could be but not likely the 1st over all

  • Sandy

    Just saw Silfverberg is a healthy scratch? I haven’t watched much Ducks hockey.. but at the beginning of the season he was really good. I guess he hasn’t got back to his pre-injury game? I wonder if he doesn’t go back to Sweden after his contract is up?

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Wouldn’t say the sky is falling… We aren’t for Methot

  • PrinceA

    SIGN MICHALEK!!! he’s healthy again, he has that jump again in his body, he’s picking up his style.. Trade greening condra and puempel for matt moulson and a d-man. than trade away PW46 and CP4 for another D.. Than the team would he solid

    Ryan – Turris – MaCarthur
    Moulson – Spezza – Stone
    Conacher – Zbinajed – Michalek
    Prince – Smith – Neil

    Cowen – Karlsson
    Methot – Ceci
    Gryba – Jack Johnson

    Anderson
    Lehner

    STANLEY CUP TEAM RIGHT THERE!!! :D:D:D

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      No to Johnson

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Weird Methot not on the ice for warm up?? He wont be traded but still odd

    • iKarly65

      why “won’t he be traded”?

      • Moudy Mahfouz

        Just dont see it happening. If it does it better be for a GREAT return

        • iKarly65

          Well a lot of people are talking about it. Something going on. Player unhappy, coach calling player out, etc. Someone or something has to give.

          • Moudy Mahfouz

            I agree, I am a huge Methot fan so would be sad to see him go.

  • ZibbyFan

    Does anyone have the live stream for the game?

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      firstrowsports search on google

    • sben

      p2p4u.net always has every NHL olympic and WJC and even AHL game. It does other sports too It is the ultimate streaming site. I would advise using it instead of any other site. Furthermore it has several links per game broadcasted. By the way I’m not an advertisement for them too. That is the only streaming site I ever use.

      • CUP 2014-15

        sben your the best thanks, helps me as well.

  • karlssens

    It’s amazing how much getting one more top 6 forward would help this team.

  • karlssens

    Shaky start so far

  • H POTTER

    Not a nhl fight fan but I hope this does spark the boys cuz this is truly a poor 5min start

  • Aaron 2.0

    Great start by TB. They give you almost no room coming out of your own end. I think it’s safe to say we are going to get hemmed in from time to time, even if we find our game here tonight. Makes you wonder what Methot did to warrent such a harsh punishment. Sitting out your 2nd best defensemen against a team that is so good at applying pressure. I hope this is worth it for MacLean.

  • karlssens

    Boys need to wake up. On a positive note, spezza looks to have his legs this period at a least

    • Aaron 2.0

      I’d usually agree w/ how bad the shot clock is against us, but TB has been near flawless to begin. I think we’re going to need to go to an all-out war for every single puck tonight to come out w/ a win.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Marc Methot should be, and needs to be playing.

    • H POTTER

      I’d like this to be a 40-50 shot allowed and no more than 1 goal allowed by Anderson. First because I don’t want to lose and we need those 2pts and keep the road winning streak. 2nd, I want pmac to realize the silly mistake and get through his head that Methot can’t get more than 1 game as a healthy scratch

    • sben

      methot wouldn’t do anything. It is the team.

  • http://www.crashthenet.ca/ Luc Wolfe

    Anderson is standing on his head big time!

  • QSenFan

    Sens are outhit, out skated and are losing in the faceoff circle 7-2

    • http://www.crashthenet.ca/ Luc Wolfe

      Sounds like a game we played vs mtl

    • Aaron 2.0

      It’s been the execution out of their own end that’s cause most of the problems, IMO. If you don’t hit your pass perfectly, TB is all over you before you can recover. That accounts for the hitting (always in our own end). We’re suppose to be a much better face-off team, so that is hard to figure out. But, if we can start to dominate the dot, forcing Bishop to cover up, and getting draws in the TB end could be important. Sens need to charge the TB net every time we shoot the puck (for draws).

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Gotta give the Tampa Bay Lightning credit for what they’ve been able to do this season. They are the story on the NHL. Excellent hockey for a young team missing a guy like Stamkos

  • luckan20

    Lopsided stats as of now. Hopefully we can turn it around. Looks like some poor execution too.

  • H POTTER

    I hate bishop..lol

    • Tcharger

      Correct that…I hate that we traded Bishop

  • sben

    With stamkos its 2-0 now.

    • Tcharger

      With Patrick Roy in his prime, Chara, Gretzky, Messier, Lemieux we would be winning…..So what?

      • H POTTER

        Exact. The comment has no meaning whatsoever

      • sben

        with the way we’re playing right now we should be losing against the regular tampa bay.

  • H POTTER

    I love the fact that EK added the physicality aspect to his game..he would be cleated to Norris winner for many years to come

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Good start from Milo tonight.

    • Cicero

      Great jump and vision on the ice! MM 2.0

    • sben

      His first hat trick was in Tampa in his first year in ottawa. 7-1 game. He scored two SHGs. He plays well against tampa.

  • sben

    The first call was weak but I’ll take it. Same Danny O halloran. The game won’t be played properly until the day he retires.

  • QSenFan

    Great

  • H POTTER

    I just saw it. Again turnover on 19!!!!!

    • Aaron 2.0

      Really? Ryan needs to know he’s in a dangerous position, no? Puck can’t get behind him. Forwards on the point.

      • jasonontheoldsenschirp

        No one’s fault in particular. They all played it bad. It was a 4 forward PP. Karl didn’t take Johnson. Just leave it alone it’s a tie game.

        • bluebuyyoo

          Sens get out of this period tied up, I like their chances

          • jasonontheoldsenschirp

            I’d like to agree, but this Lightning team is pretty good, and the Sens haven’t been particularly great.

            They have a lot of offense. Would have loved to see Marc play

        • Aaron 2.0

          Oh, for sure. Lucky to come out tied after that period. I didn’t mean any disrespect at all, to anyone. Just find it interesting how people can see things differently. I enjoy the conversations about thees sort of things!

    • bluebuyyoo

      FFS! Ryan missed his assignment at the point, Karlsson did nothing to defend against the rush and Anderson should have stopped it. But, what the hell, shit on Spezza.

      • Tcharger

        People wear blinders in regards to certain players….I have to assume it happens in every fanbase

      • Aaron 2.0

        The shot was perfectly placed. 17th shot. Tough to blame Anderson on that one. Karlsson maybe should charge. Ryan isn’t the fastest skater getting back though. It Ryan doesn’t get fully back… Tough decision for Karl, I think.

        • bluebuyyoo

          Yup. Great goal. Happened very quickly.

      • Jacques

        Karlsson didn’t play the angle well and Andy lost his net, shouldn’t score short side on that, but he’s been good so far.

        • bluebuyyoo

          Agreed! Anderson is the reason we are in this game.

  • sben

    why am I not surprised.

  • QSenFan

    Woooohooooo

  • Cicero

    EK65 wooooot!

  • H POTTER

    Fakkkkkk yeah

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    KARL.

  • H POTTER

    Gryba plays a simple but effective def game

    • Tcharger

      Yup…I genuinely hope he doesn’t end up being the odd man out. Tough, has a bit of a mean streak.

      Great 3rd pairing guy

  • QSenFan

    Better pace now. Lets carry that into the second

  • aegiszx

    Rough start to the period but better finish. Leave it to Karl to get this group going!!!

    • H POTTER

      You have a typo, it’s King Karl..lol

  • aegiszx

    Unrelated hockey news, I effin hate Sid, but what is this guy taking to put up already 71 pts so far wtf? Watchin the highlights around the league…

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      Holy crap he’s got 71 already?

    • bluebuyyoo

      Whoa! The IOC will be having him taking urine tests between shifts ;-)

    • karlssens

      Why hate him? He’s the best player in the word. He could skate before most people could walk. Just be grateful he’s representing us these Olympics!

  • Cicero

    Greening is a pesky beast.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Pretty good period by both teams. Sens came out flat but turned things around after that Neil fight. Both teams had quality scoring chances but Andy and Bishop were both solid.

    Spezza looks really good again tonight. He must be starting to get his strength and conditioning back to where it needs to be after the string of back/groin/hip issues. I think it might be time to consider giving him a better set of wingers? No offense to Smith and Condra but Spezza is on an island in the offensive zone with those two.

    • karlssens

      That’s priority number one going into the deadline. Get someone to score with Spezza. I’d be happy with Moulson or Cammy.

  • Jacques

    C’mon boys, giving up too many shots again. Would love to see Zibby’s line get a little more ice time!

  • Cicero

    They start with 7 defencemen and try Ceci out on RW with Spezza. Has he ever played forward in his junior career?

    • FistsofNeil25

      Why would you want to do that?? Ceci is one of our best defencemen!

      • Cicero

        Sorry. Inside voice. Much bad idea. Wow.

  • Andersonfan41

    Just wondering witch defencemen would people
    on here like to see Murray trade to get the top
    six forward he looking for?

    • karlssens

      Gyba, but Methot would give us a better return..

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      The wicked one

    • Aaron 2.0

      If they add anything, it should be another top-4 D, IMO. We score enough goals.

    • Cicero

      Corvo. Oh no wait we don’t need more pucks.

    • Jacques

      Cowen, he doesn’t move well.

  • Andersonfan41

    Also just wondering seeing how Moulson
    is on the top of Murray list could Vanek
    also be a option?

    • FistsofNeil25

      Don’t think we’d be willing to give up the assets to acquire him.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Still no interest in Vanek….He also has outright said he is open to, and even wants to resign in NYI even if traded

  • Cicero

    Scary knuckleball :/

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    What a magnificent save. I hope.

  • H POTTER

    Da Costa is awfull

    • karlssens

      I think if anything that’s a linemate issue.. Greening is by far the most useless player on this team

    • H POTTER

      Started with his ridiculous giveaway in front of Anderson a few seconds earlier…

    • aegiszx

      The Da Costa experiment will be once again, over in a few games.

  • FistsofNeil25

    I don’t wanna sound like a hater but man will I ever be disappointed if we resign Phillips.

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      No you’re not alone. That’s perfectly reasonable.

      • FistsofNeil25

        I appreciate what he’s done in his career but his time here better be coming to an end. Don’t think he’s one of the top 6 defencemen in the organization anymore but he gets his ice time out of respect for his experience and leadership. It’s time to move on from him.

    • Cicero

      He’ll be given a plumb scouting job for a couple of years with lots of bonus money if he hangs up his skates. He’s not likely to want to move away and has given much to the organization.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Tell my why Marc Methot is a scratch again?

    • bluebuyyoo

      We don’t know. Likely answer is that he must have violated some team policy that Pmac feels is very important. If he doesn’t punish MM, then the rule no longer applies to any other player on the team.

  • H POTTER

    EK is so amazing…what a pass

  • karlssens

    Actually.. Phillips might be more useless than greening.. That’s a tough one

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      How about this: Marc Methot, who is definitely not useless, PLAYS.

  • Jacques

    Replace Cowen and Phillips with Methot and Claessen and this team would be so much better. Cowen is an anchor out there(meaning he can’t move).

    • http://www.crashthenet.ca/ Luc Wolfe

      No just Phillips. .. he’s half a step to slow.

      • FistsofNeil25

        He just takes waaaaaayyyyyy too long to make his decisions out there. It’s brutal.

    • SensFanInMTL

      Man you are difficult to please, lol.

      T’as souviens de Spezza? And now Jared is half the man he used to be.

      • Jacques

        J’echangerais les 2 mon chum!

        • SensFanInMTL

          Man all these 1st rounders on our team and we sit where we are in the standings.

          • FistsofNeil25

            #Budget

          • SensFanInMTL

            #VeryDisappointed

          • FistsofNeil25

            #MeToo

  • http://www.crashthenet.ca/ Luc Wolfe

    If Ottawa can start skating this game could be interesting. .. no shots in the 2nd. .. this is a crucial game for us

  • QSenFan

    Sens can really use more speed

  • Sandy

    Who are some of these guys on Tampa? Most of the names I’ve never heard of before. But they just play and play well..
    Sens looked overmatched at times in this game.. certainly to start..
    Anyone hear anything more on the Stone injury?

  • H POTTER

    So all you bingo followers, SDC was the BEST center to be called up??

    • karlssens

      Him or JGP, obrien, or Grant. Very thin down the middle.

  • karlssens

    FUCK PHILLIPS PLEASE RETIRE

    • H POTTER

      Hahahahahahaha can’t even catch a pass anymore..so sad

    • Cicero

      It’s not your fault you were in diapers when he started with the Sens
      but don’t act like you’re still wearing them. Show some respect for the
      Big Rig.

  • QSenFan

    Ryan lacking intensity…sorry but thats what Im seeing so far tonight

    • karlssens

      Greening lacking a hockey IQ, condra lacking size, Michalek lacking knees.. At least bobby can score haha

      • jasonontheoldsenschirp

        BAHAHAHAHA nice one haha

  • luckan20

    It was not Phillips mistake. It was a deflection off Crombeen right leg. I am not sure why didn’t they refer to TO. There was no kicking motion, but every goal like that gets a call to TO

    • SensChirp

      Thought the same but I actually think they did take a look at it. Broadcast just didn’t show it happening, maybe? There was definitely a delay.

      • luckan20

        Sir, is there truly a rift between Methot and PM or it is simply a noise.

  • LeafsSux

    God I wish we had Bishop on our team…

  • karlssens

    P Mac loading up line 2… Michalek pezz dispenser zibby

    • Aaron 2.0

      Something needed to happen. Spezza is looking too good to leave him with Condra and Smith.

    • FistsofNeil25

      It was just a matter of time.

  • SensFanInMTL

    When the fuck is Lehner going to play again? And has Zibanejad been a scratch for the last week?

    • SensFanInMTL

      Oh yeah. You’re gonna tell me we had absolutely no one the Rangers needed to straight up rid Del Zotto for frickin Calvin Klein?

  • Jacques

    Gryba luv that guy!

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Tampa’s defense is good.

  • FistsofNeil25

    It’s a shame Gryba isn’t a regular in the line-up. He’s always so solid.

  • H POTTER

    Lmao, a rush from Phillips and Neal..hahahah

  • QSenFan

    Sens always half a step behind, tampa has very active sticks

  • karlssens

    The sens have played some uninspired hockey these last 3 games

  • Jacques

    Greening and Neil man poor DaCosta!

  • LeafsSux

    It looks like a 10 on 5 power play…

  • Jacques

    Where’s the peskiness?

    • SensFanInMTL

      Traded away for Greening & Condra.

  • Zelle

    I like your tweets Chirp, they’re very positive, which is nice.

  • karlssens

    Okay as of now, anything bad that happens is being blamed on greening or Phillips to make me feel better.

  • Sandy

    Where is the speed and intensity they showed against Mtl.. They were all over them… That’s certainly not happening tonight..

  • Jacques

    Better score here cuz the refs are going to ding the sens sooner or later!

  • karlssens

    Power play woohoo

  • Aaron 2.0

    Good hard work by Turris!

    • FistsofNeil25

      As usual. He’s awesome.

    • Zelle

      I love Turris!!

  • FistsofNeil25

    SICK GOAL!

  • H POTTER

    Yaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  • QSenFan

    Clarck!!!!!!

  • Jacques

    Wow nice, Spezz is slow but he has great hands!

    • bluebuyyoo

      Hey Jacques. Careful. That is almost a compliment :-)

      • Jacques

        I’m critical but you won’t believe me, I have an open mind. Lol

        • bluebuyyoo

          That’s why I keep coming back here. We are all Sens fans, we all want the same result and we sure have different viewpoints.

  • karlssens

    Am I ever happy Spezza is having a great game.

    • FistsofNeil25

      He’s been pretty damn good tonight.

      • Aaron 2.0

        He’s put together a few good ones now. He’s looking much better!

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    CLARKE.

  • SensFanInMTL

    Spezza 2 assists. T’es ou, Jacques? T’ES OU?!?!?!?

    • Jacques

      I’m not hiding, I’m happy when they’re winning.They’re my team, I’m notTooks bro!

      • SensFanInMTL

        I feel bad for the guy. He knows how to draw heat. I find it humorous at times. I don’t get annoyed with him at all. But I was referring to your Spezza hate lol. But whatever. Let’s just win the phacking game.

        • bluebuyyoo

          LOL! Just checked the game sheet on NHL.com and Spezza has 2 points and is listed as a -1. He even gets crapped on by the NHL.

          • Aaron 2.0

            Both goals are on the PP. He was on the ice for the shorty. Unfortunately he’s a -1. Not the NHL’s fault, this time.

          • bluebuyyoo

            Thanks for the clarification.

          • Aaron 2.0

            Regardless of the -1, he’s having a great game though! I’m honestly just relieved to see he can still do this. I was so worried what the injuries might have done to him long-term.

          • Jacques

            Vey true!

          • SensFanInMTL

            Oh yeah, bud. There’s a ton of hate on him. My old boss said Spezza was a hot head. Haters gonna hate!

          • Jacques

            Haha, no rispeck, I don’t work for NhL.com don’t worry!

    • Roar…

      -2 at even strength. Liked his game tonight though, largely the defense are to blame for those minuses.

  • aegiszx

    Can we give Milan’s salary to Mac? This guy is a STEAL!!!

  • Aaron 2.0

    When you look at the score-boards from around the league, this could be a big game tonight. Lucky to be tied @ 2. Haven’t had very many scoring chances tonight. TB is a good team.

  • Sandy

    As I sit watching the game on this frigid night… two months from tonight I take a plane to Tampa for the Sens game.. then to Sunrise for the Sens game and some shopping time..
    It can’t come soon enough..

    • CUP 2014-15

      That’s outstanding!!!!

      • Sandy

        Even better… going with my friend.. husbands stay home…

  • luckan20

    We need to play better in our end. Guys are finding hard to exit the zone. In large part due to good fore checking and stupid passes with soft hands by our clowns.

  • SensFanInMTL

    Man how much more do we have to suffer with Michalek? The guy just wants to rest his knees. There is absolutely nothing left for him to do moving forward with us and no longer is in our needs. Surely a team like the Penguins can give us a 1st rounder for him or some other team going far this year, no? We should trade our 2nd rounder to get Noesen back. I am still extremely bitter to this day that he had to be the one included in the package. Greening nor Condra not good enough? Does that make Noesen better than the 2? Fait chier.

  • FistsofNeil25

    5-1 Dallas over the Leafs halfway through the second period. This upcoming third period is HUGE for the Sens to keep pace with Toronto. We need two points!

    • Zelle

      Going down the nhl.com comments a Leafs fan posted that Dallas was going to get reamed by the Leafs 5-1 haha

    • Aaron 2.0

      Philly will lose too! Columbus keeps winning, but one of those two had to win tonight. NYR down too (although just a 1-goal game). It looked like CAR would lose, but they came back. But, hey, they’re playing BUF. So, you sort of have to expect they should win that one.

  • SensChirp
    • FistsofNeil25

      Hilarious

  • FistsofNeil25

    Unrelated to Sens hockey but remember how outraged some people were when Nash was selected to team Canada? The guy is the hottest player in the league since the announcement. Great news for Canadian hockey fans!

    • Sandy

      He was terrible at the start of the season.. and I thought should not be on Team Canada over Martin St Louis.. who should be there… But Nash has been much better. Probably heard a lot of people complaining he should not be on the team as he had done nothing up to that announcement..

  • LeafsSux

    6-1 Stars!

  • Sandy

    Wow 6-1 for Dallas over the Leafs.
    Gee the Sens lost to Dallas in a shootout at home.. an afternoon game…

    Haven’t watched much of this game… It’s delightful. Really important for the Sens to get points tonight.. 2 would be ideal… but that’s going to be really really difficult..

  • FistsofNeil25

    Rangers and Flyers lose. Canes and Jackets win.

    • Sandy

      What’s up with the Jackets? I guess we find out shortly…

      • Aaron 2.0

        When you consider they had a decent record in the West, maybe we should have expected this. But, they caught me off guard for sure.

      • FistsofNeil25

        They were really hot in the second half of last season too. They’re definitely a threat to the Sens. Unfortunately Ottawa isn’t the only eastern conference team that’s hot right now. Leafs, Rangers, Canes, Flyers and Jackets all playing well lately. It’s starting to look like Alfie left us for the wrong team.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Cowen is quietly putting together I very good game. That’s what we want from him…a quiet, simple game.

  • Richard Gough

    How is Spezza playing ?

    • SensChirp

      Best forward for the Senators.

      • Richard Gough

        Tonight or over all ?

        • SensChirp

          Tonight. You’ll have to save your tired Spezza hate for another night, I reckon.

          • Richard Gough

            I don’t hate Spezza and I am happy he is playing well

            I just haven’t been happy the way he has been playing

            I miss seeing the Spezza that we had back in the Heatley days

  • Jacques

    TUrris can really skate!

  • FistsofNeil25

    Fudge.

  • QSenFan

    Tabarnak!!!!!

  • Jacques

    St.Louis is amazing! CRAP!

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    St. Louis man wow

  • Zelle

    Darn.. would be nice to get at least a point out of this game.

  • FistsofNeil25

    I’d love to see Conacher pot one on Bishop.

  • luckan20

    tough one to give. Hope we put lots of pressure now.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Tons of time left fellas. The Sens will answer back.

    • SensFanInMTL

      J’espere mon chum, j’espere.

  • http://www.crashthenet.ca/ Luc Wolfe

    Ottawa absolutely needs a win tonight… if we can’t win this game. I’m doubtful for the playoffs.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Really good pressure here…. come on boys!

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    If we lose, it is still a close race in the East, philly holds the wild card spot and has played 1 more game then us. A win would be nice, but the hunt for the playoffs is still in sight

  • karlssens

    Oh god Phillips strikes

  • Sandy

    Columbus/Philly are now 3 pts up on the Sens… If we lose tonight.. or don’t get at least a point out of this.. it could start slipping away..
    IF this team wants to make the playoffs.. they have to be able to compete with the big boys..

  • QSenFan

    Unless Murray makes a move or two to improve the team, I’m not very hopeful for more Sens hockey this spring

  • bluebuyyoo

    Bullshit. Phillips gets 2 minutes for trying to get to the puck.

  • Greg

    NEILLLERRRR

  • H POTTER

    Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  • SensFanInMTL

    About boy, Neil. I was asleep on me computer when Brown announced it. W00t!

  • bluebuyyoo

    4th line doing damage!

  • Cicero

    I love that line!!

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    NEILER. WOW. WOOOOO

  • FistsofNeil25

    Huuuuge huge goal! maybe the biggest of the season!

  • Aaron 2.0

    Huge, huge goal! I had actually stopped looking at the comments here because i’m watching on GameCenter (usually there is a delay). I didn’t want to to find out about the tie goal here before it happened. But, I had to come back when I saw it go in to celebrate!

  • Sandy

    100th goal of his career.. Congrats Neiler. Who said this guy is useless.
    He is the heart and soul of the Sens. He plays for the crest on the front.. not the name on the back… He bleds Sens red.
    Need a point guys.. hang in there..

  • QSenFan

    OMG zibby almost put it away

  • Cicero

    Another good road game boys! Now go get that 2nd point quick.

  • bluebuyyoo

    Turris will get the winner! No SO tonight!

    • Sandy

      Well, if there is a shootout tonight… the Sens are not winning it against Bishop…

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    HUGEEEEE point. Good to steal one. Sens haven’t been particularly great tonight but we can’t complain about this.

    Who knows? Can we steal two? :)

  • H POTTER

    Cowen is simply unbelievable

  • H POTTER

    Total wimp

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Can Cowen skate??????????????????? Please don’t put him out there!

  • SensFanInMTL

    You know you’re in trouble when Denis Potvin is facepalming.

  • bluebuyyoo

    Blind as a fucking bat

  • QSenFan

    Wow

  • H POTTER

    BS callllllllll

  • Cicero

    “Weircioch rubs out Johnson.” Dean Brown.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Cowen blows.

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      And the refs even more.

  • H POTTER

    EK is so amazing

  • SensFanInMTL

    So a miscommunication occurs and Methot sits? Diminished role happening once again. Play Methot or quit your damn job. Methot being scratched for any reason besides injury is preposterous.

    • bluebuyyoo

      What was the miscommunication?

      • SensFanInMTL

        Whatever that is mentioned above in the post, bud.

  • QSenFan

    Way to kill that bullshit call boys!!!!!

  • Cicero

    SENS STAND TALL.

  • bluebuyyoo

    Zibby, Spezza, Turris

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Remarkable kill after a bs call. Tough call by the refs.

  • QSenFan

    Mac Spezz Turris

    • Sandy

      The big question is.. .how many will Andy stop.. He has not been very good in the shootout this season… Bishop has been.
      I don’t like the Sens chances for winning this..

      • bluebuyyoo

        Have a little faith! These guys are good

        • Sandy

          After watching Andy in some of those shootouts? No..

          • bluebuyyoo

            Ugh!

          • Jonny

            Good call Sandy, you really know your Andy shootouts!

  • Aaron 2.0

    Despite the best effort of the refs to wreck another game, it continues w/ both teams having an honest chance to win this one. They killed our momentum though. Refs should have to answer for their calls after games. They get payed enough to defend their non-sense.

  • Mitchell

    a mouslon trade could be conditional. you get A player and a so and so draft pick if he signs

  • QSenFan

    Wtf spezz???

    • Cicero

      I think he put on the brakes, gave Bishop a snow shower, giggled, then went 5-hole :)

  • QSenFan

    Fucking hate shoot outs

    • aegiszx

      Seriously. What a crapshoot.

    • LeafsSux

      3 on 3 would be better in my opinion

      • Cicero

        Or let the back-up goalies duke it out at centre ice.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Good game by the Sens.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Well, good 3rd period. But, it took to long to show up tonight. TB is really good. I think we were lucky to escape w/ anything the way the first 40 minutes went. At least we salvage a point, and we don’t have to play tomorrow night. Although the next game is now an afternoon one…

    • Sandy

      Methot back in… who comes out? Lehner in net…

      • Aaron 2.0

        Yeah, you have to think that Methot goes back in. Wouldn’t you love to be a fly on the wall to know why he was sat? It better of been something big, otherwise it’s just a ridiculous move. I don’t know who you take out though. The usual candidates were good tonight (Gryba, Weircioch). A lot of people really like Cowen’s game tonight. He got better as the night went on. But, I thought he really struggled when he had the puck in his own end, at least for the 1st 40 minutes. But, lets face it – Coach will not take him out. Phillips won’t come out. I don’t have a clue what to expect. I’d love to see Lehner get a game. He’s been sitting too long. I don’t have a lot of confidence that MacLean will play him though.

      • Jonny

        I would agree, I havent said much on this subject as I try and try and try and see what very few keep saying…Trying to see the potential in Cowen, I have to admit, its getting very hard, very very hard.

        Put Methot back in and bench Cowen, especially after that OT period, he almost singlehandedly lost the game for us on several occasions.

        • Sensnation

          Yes Bench our 2nd best defender, good call coach!

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    There were many opportunities for the guys to quit and outright lose this game. They stuck to it played hard and took a point in the skills competition. Good game I’ll take the point. The Leafs losing is key, too.

    • bluebuyyoo

      Pretty good road game. Take the point and get out of town.

      • Aaron 2.0

        Absolutely agree. That shouldn’t be lost on anybody, IMO. We’re on the road right now, and lets face it, that TB team has been better than us this year by a wide margin. 3 of our last 4 points on the road. We can’t complain too much!

  • Sandy

    So… does the shootout exist next season?

    • luckan20

      I wish better not.

    • Aaron 2.0

      Hopefully, an expanded OT to cut down the number of SO!

      I’d still love to see every game worth 3 pts. But, the old hockey types in charge of the NHL will never go for it. 3 pts for a ROW. 2 pts for a SO win, and 1 pt for a SO loss. Every game should be worth the same. It just makes no sense (to me) that some games are worth 3 pts and others are only worth 2. It implies that somehow some games are more important for no reason other than either team couldn’t seize the moment and get it down in regulation (of course you’ve all heard me rant about this last part before – lol).

  • Richard Gough

    How do they play next ?

    • Sandy

      Carolina… Saturday at noon… Then on to Columbus.
      Both teams very close to the Sens in the standings…
      These are must wins…
      3 out of 4 pts so far… Need that repeated or better the next two games to keep in the playoff hunt..

      • Richard Gough

        Shit another afternoon game

  • Cicero

    GG Sens. 40/60 minutes doesn’t always earn one point, so I guess we got more than we might have deserved. Energetic comeback for sure, and can’t take anything away from the boys for their effort in the 2nd and 3rd periods. No comment on the penalty calls, as I have high blood pressure.

    Happy to see improvement from Cowen (yes a couple of mistakes, but overall much better). I hope he works hard on core and lower-body strength and balance. Great game from our #1 goalie. Good to see Greening-Smith-Neil reunited — it got us back in the game. GG TB.

  • Sandy

    Cowen was a +1 in the game tonight..
    Phillips a -2
    Ceci a -1
    Wiercioch 0
    Gryba -1
    Karlsson +2
    So who should come out?

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      PW46

      • LeafsSux

        Idiot

        • jasonontheoldsenschirp

          How. It’s my opinion. Don’t bash me.

          • Roar…

            It’s a terrible one. PW46 was excellent tonight. Phillips, Gryba & Cowen were terrible. Cowen the best of those 3 tonight so he stays in. Realistically all 3 are playing at replacement level 7th D pretty much. You need to watch what happens every time one of those 3 has the puck on the stick. They hold it… don’t skate anywhere… wait until their forwards are all gone and the gap is huge… and immediately cough it up to the other team with a hopeless play – that or they just directly dump the puck back to the other team because they’re incapable of doing anything better with it. Just awful.

          • jasonontheoldsenschirp

            To each his own.

          • SenaTHOR

            Must be Yost or Abdul

          • LeafsSux

            Sorry didnt realize you were so sensitive…

    • luckan20

      Honestly speaking I will not count Ceci -1. Poor fellow stick snapped and couldn’t do anything with the pass of St. Louis.
      I will rest Phillips a game or two. Let Methot take his spot. Also, increase Methot’s ice time, so that Cowen time on ice can be controlled.

    • Jonny

      +- is a terrible way to choose who comes out. Cowen played by far the worst tonight, mistake after mistake. His +1 was cuz Gryba came off just before Neil scored.

      • Cicero

        Disagee. Cowen upped his game: was more aggressive in challenging in front and tighter along the boards behind.

        • luckan20

          It was only towards the mid 3rd period he started to wake up. However, he needs to bring physical element in to his game. If not, he becomes just another Kuba.

          • Sensnation

            He’s already way more physical than Kuba ever was.

        • Jonny

          Didnt look like it in OT. I missed the firs 20 but people on here say it was pretty bad for the first 40.

          • luckan20

            true

        • Aaron 2.0

          I thought he looked good in the 2nd half (minus the OT). But, in the 1st half, a lot of plays died on his stick trying to get out of his own end. Karlsson would have been even better tonight if not for it.

        • Roar…

          He was beaten multiple times because of a lack of foot speed. When he handles the puck he looks awful out there. He’s basically playing replacement level hockey. He did a few things right without the puck tonight but that’s about it. He mostly just gets carried around by Karlsson. Seriously, coach is playing him with Karlsson to protect him from how bad he is. Karlsson does the work of two out there.

          • Cicero

            Lack of foot speed, I agree. But he’s a stay-at-home D. Balance and lower body strength conditioning over the summer will make him more stable and fierce. If he has the determination to work and improve, it’s too soon to write him off.

          • Roar…

            I didn’t see anywhere that I said Cowen should be written off? The expectations we have of him are ridiculous. He hasn’t even played 2 full seasons of NHL hockey… 139 games. The fact that we are asking such a young guy who clearly isn’t ready to play 25 minutes a night represents everything that is wrong with this team.

            Phillips & Gryba playing as much as they are also represents a problem. I strongly wanted to keep Benoit around last year, this is why. He would be so stabilizing and for peanuts in terms of salary. Ottawa really shit the bed and set themselves up to struggle by being unwilling to pay out the $ required to have 2 more stable top-4 minute eating defenders who play a balanced 200 foot game. That way Cowen, Ceci & Wier could develop playing the 5th/6th/7th D minutes and maybe even Ceci still in Bingo which is really where he should be (he’s playing really well but he still has so much room to get better). Ottawa is playing multiple guys over their heads in their roles because the team is cheap as fuck. It’s at the point where I don’t even care about this season. It’s a complete write-off. Ottawa will be first round Cannon Fodder if we face Boston or the Pens who will assuredly add at the deadline. Team isn’t willing to do what it takes to ice a truly competitive roster that would at least have a chance. Makes it hard to give a shit.

      • Sensnation

        If you can’t appreciate the game Cowen had tonight you weren’t watching right. Even the announcers were praising his play several times. Stop talking shit on the guy if you cant’ even assess his games fairly.

    • QSenFan

      First, we need Methot back. Second, Phillips needs to play less minutes.

    • Sensnation

      Karlsson was a 0, both points were on the PP.

  • http://www.crashthenet.ca/ Luc Wolfe

    Well happy for the point next game is crucial big time… this game was crucial for us but with the shoot out point we’re status quo

  • Cicero

    There were big chunks of the latter part of the game when the Sens completely dominated 5-on-5 at both ends and in transition.TB are likely hoping to avoid Ottawa in the playoffs should the Sens get in.

    • Aaron 2.0

      It sort of avoids the 1st 40 minutes though, where it was the exact opposite (we couldn’t transition out of our own end at all, they did it w/ ease). Add that Stamkos will be back, and i’d prefer not to see these guys in the playoffs in round # 1 (if we make it).

  • luckan20

    The lousy call on OT hurt our chances. There were good 1.51 minutes of 4 on 4 play.

    • peetypuck

      Yeah, too much 4 play.

  • luckan20

    We need to beat the Canes. It is a 4 point game and also will ties us with Flyers. Now our focus should be to keep winning or win the odd points. It is going to be an important stretch heading into the Olympics break.

  • luckan20

    We have only 2 guys participating in Olympics. I am only concerned of Karlsson because he might get tired in the end. Michalek is simply a filler this season. Hope he can break out his long slump. I can’t understand career 20+ goals scorer becoming ineffective.

  • Eugenius

    It’d be cool if the Sens had more than 1 or 2 legit top 4 dmen playing…..#PlayMethot

  • Jonny

    Well good thing is TOR lost 7-1, LOL

  • Roar…

    The Good: Da Costa looked good as 3C when the opportunity came up from line juggles. Quite a lot of skill with that puck. Would be excellent on the PP as well. Wiercioch had another strong game.

    The Bad: Phillips, Gryba & Cowen continue to play 6th/7th D quality with the puck on their stick. Just flat out awful game in and game out. Cowen is probably the best of the 3 without the puck, and he’s not even that good at that.

    The way I see it:
    Wiercioch Karlsson
    Methot-Ceci
    Cowen- X (rotates between Corvo, Philips, Gryba)

    Team would do well to call up both Borocop & Claesson. Trick a contender into giving us a 2nd rounder for Phillips and try to recoup a 4th or 5th for Gryba. Give us some cap room to add something of need at the deadline (#4D or Top 9 200-Foot FW)

    • Jacques

      Gryba played well, kept plays alive, solid defensively! What u talkin bout!

      • H POTTER

        No clue

      • Roar…

        With the puck, he is unquestionably an unmitigated disaster. Many many times Gryba had a better option with the puck than what he chose to do.Very often he simply lobs the puck back to the other team because he lacks the ability to realize what he should do with it. The result is the Sens playing long shifts in their own end without possession. Watch more closely and keep track of what the consequences are when Gryba gets the puck. Most of the time they aren’t good. The one thing he is good at is positioning and physical play without the puck. That part of his game is bottom pairing competent. His puck skills, not so much.

      • SenaTHOR

        ROAR wants all PMD who would lose every game because there is only one ,Cec,i that can play defence. Must be a cricket player as he doesn’t know much about the game .

    • Sandy

      Claesson hasn’t even played an NHL game yet.. How do you know he will be better.
      He is playing well in the AHL and does deserve a callup. But let’s wait to see how he does before we say he is better than the experienced D the Sens have right now.

    • SenaTHOR

      Off the crack Jack.

    • Sensnation

      Recoup a 4th/5th? Gryba has made it to the NHL, that’s beyond what’s expected at that pick. He showed a few good possessions with the puck on his stick tonight too.

      Stop pining for players who aren’t ready yet, and let the ones that are here actually have their growth time!

    • Laurence Babchyuk

      If sens trade Phillips, they would automatically improve our defense. God I hope Methot stays. He’s our best deFensive dmen. Ceci is quickly becoming a top 4 Dmen on this team. I love his play, very solid with the puck on his stick and he’s second best (behind EK) to get the puck safely out of the zone.

      Top 4 is King Karl, Methot, Ceci, (x) need someone there

      Here is how I would pair our d core
      Karlsson – Methot
      Cowen – PW46
      Gryba – Ceci

      I really think methot needs more minutes, that is why he should play with EK
      Or if you want to balance IT up

      Karlsson – Cowen
      Methot – Ceci
      Gryba – PW46

  • Sandy

    So Andy doesn’t like shootouts. Perhaps if he was better at it.. then maybe.
    They should practice that more at the end of their practices.
    BTW — Silfverberg is in the Ducks lineup tonight..

    • aegiszx

      Sandy, Lehner also does not like shootouts. I get that it’s for the fans, but shit, this isnt pond hockey lol…

  • thepez

    Last comment about Cowen, because I can’t believe the haters out there for a 22 year old top 4 dman and potential top 2. All I keep hearing is that Cowen is too slow to play on the blue line. Same thing I heard about a certain big dman back in 2006. Too slow, makes bad decisions, will never be a top d-man. Well the Big Z did ok, unfortunately he plays for the Bruins.
    Be careful what you wish for, haters.

    • Alcatraz

      Tyler Myers

      • thepez

        Not sure if you mean that Tyler Myers is in the same boat as Cowen or you think that Myers is no good. However put Myers on a good team and watch him be a Norris candidate.

    • Zelle

      I don’t mind waiting for him to get better, just wish he didn’t get top minutes over someone who already plays well like Ceci or Methot.