Game Day- Senators Host Struggling Oilers

SensChirp October 20, 2013 224
Game Day- Senators Host Struggling Oilers

After starting strong and holding on for a win over the New Jersey Devils on Thursday night, the Senators are back on the ice at the Canadian Tire Centre this afternoon when they take on the Edmonton Oilers.

Much like Thursday’s opponent, the Oilers have struggled in the early going this season, posting a 1-6-1 record through their first 8 games and finding themselves near the bottom of the NHL’s standings and at the centre of trade speculation.

With an excess of talented, young forwards and holes on defence and in goal, there’s a sense this Edmonton team may be looking to deal if their early season slide continues. First round pick Nail Yakupov has been a healthy scratch on a couple of occasions and there’s a belief around the league he could be available for the right price. If the Oilers are desperate for goaltending, you can be certain the Senators would be one of the teams they’d contact.

And while I don’t think this is the right time for Murray to trade one of his goalies, if a desperate Craig MacTavish is on the line, Bryan Murray should take that call.

On the Senators side of things, the team did the expected late yesterday, calling up a player from Binghamton to replace Stephane Da Costa. And while the roster move was expected, the player involved may have been a bit of a surprise. Derek Grant is a left handed shot that can slide into the bottom six, take a shift on the penalty kill, and win some faceoffs. Zibanejad is the better player but Grant fits a need for this team right now.

Michalek-Spezza-Conacher
MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
Greening-Grant-Condra
Kassian-Smith-Neil

Methot-Karlsson
Cowen-Wiercioch
Phillips-Gryba

Robin Lehner gets the start in the Ottawa goal.

Puck drop is scheduled for just after 2:00 PM with plenty of tickets still available if you’re looking for a fun way to spend an afternoon. Head to Capital Tickets to get your tickets.

  • C.J.

    If the Oilers are giving Ottawa a call about Anderson the deal starts with Hall cuz I doubt Yakupov is the kind of player Murray or the Paulrus wants on this club, no divas, so no trade will happen there.

    Looking forward to Lehner standing on his head and a 4-0 victory for the boys!

    GO SENS GO!!!

    • The Apostle

      Also if there is a trade you’d have to think Edmonton would need to take some salary off our hands. Michalek perhaps?

    • matsoukas45

      They will never get Hall for Anderson be real,think about it don`t just post something without thinking about it why would edm trade a franchise player in his early 20`s for a 32 year old goalie.

      • C.J.

        lol clearly you didn’t understand my post, basically what I’m saying is that in order for Murray to consider a trade for one of our goalies with Edmonton the return would have to be a player like hall because we dont need centres, they dont have defence, and we don’t need more prospects or picks… ergo the trade will not happen, like I said above: “…no trade will happen there”

        you should take your own advice about posting something without thinking about it

  • Sean

    Should be a fast and exciting one this afternoon! So many young guys with something to prove!

  • MrSkullhead

    If they did call on us, who would everyone rather see traded? Anderson or Lehner. My gut says Anderson, but, I think EDM will ask for Lehner or nothing.

  • The Apostle

    EDM: We’d like one of your goalies please
    OTT: We’d like Jordan Eberle
    EDM: We don’t want to trade Jordan Eberle
    OTT: We don’t have to trade one of our goalies.
    CLICK

    • C.J.

      pretty much how it would go hahaha

  • Conor_smythe

    If edmonton calls ottawa, i hope the only thing theyre asking about is Cowen

    I guarantee ottawa is not interested in moving a goalie

    • matsoukas45

      Ottawa will have to trade a goalie they can`t keep both after this year Anderson has 1 year left on his contract.Lehner is ready to be a number 1 so the best time to trade Anderson is at the draft,he will be dealt this year at some time so if edm gives them a number 1 which ottawa doesn`t have this year and say a hemsky I would do that trade they won`t get a 1 pick and the top 5 players on edm for anderson but at least they will get a top 10 pick

      • The Apostle

        Would you trade a top 10 pick and a top 6 forward for a goalie with only 1 year left on his deal and no guarantee that he’s going to stay?

        Didn’t think so.

        • matsoukas45

          Anderson will stay cause edm will offer him max term and coin the owner (katz) is mega rich will spend to the cap even if it goes to 80 million so before you say don`t think so read the cba edm can offer him an extra year that every other team can`t and max dollars so i think so.

          • The Apostle

            I am aware of the cba and I think any team offering a 34 year old goaltender (which is what Anderson will be when he becomes a free agent in July 2015) an 8 year term would be idiotic.

          • Millennium

            Every year we think that, then every year some GM manages to set the bar for terrible contracts.

          • The Apostle

            You are right, so in 2 years time I can only assume Anderson will be starting in goal for the flyers.

          • matsoukas45

            So lets gets this straight you are saying that a gm wouldn`t hand out a 8 yr contract to a player how do you know what Anderson wants you have no clue whats going on stop writing things you know nothing about.

          • The Apostle

            Anderson will stay cause edm will offer him max term

            Does that phrase look familiar? It should do because you typed it about an hour ago.

            I used that as a starting point for my rebuttal to your opinion. My opinion differs from yours, and for many fine reasons. I said that I thought a GM handing out an 8 year contract to a 34 year old goalie would be an idiot. I didn’t say it wouldn’t happen.

            I did say that I didn’t think Anderson is worth a top 10 pick and a top 6 forward and I stand by that.

            Bernier went for a 2nd, a back-up and a bottom 6 player, Varlamov is a better example, he went for a 1st and a 2nd but he’s 7 years younger than Anderson. I don’t think the market is as high as you appear to suggest for Anderson.

          • matsoukas45

            I think they will get a first for Anderson and a prospect

          • C.J.

            lol who is this^ guy and why is he so condescending

    • MikeS

      So you want both corvo and gryba playing every night?

      • Conor_smythe

        no, I want to trade Zibby and Conacher for someone to replace Cowen. Trade Cowen for someone to replace Conacher.

        Bring up Ceci, who is already better than Gryba

        Corvo should be in our lineup every night, considering the options. I would play Corvo ahead of Phillips 100% of the time

  • T K

    If the Oilers don’t like Yakupov’s attitude, why would any other team, including the Sens want to put up with it? Players come with baggage, not just skill..

    • MrSkullhead

      The ‘Yotes didn’t like Turris’ attitude either. But, it is a gamble.

      • T K

        The thing that gets me is that so many people want to rush out and grab the next shinny new toy that’s flashed before their eyes regardless of the cost.
        You’d have to be massively stoned to want to give up either of our Ferrari goalies. As long as they continue to work well together and play well, we need to be content to have the best, most reliable and safely redudant tandem in the NHL. Sens goalies are the envy of almost every team. Keep it that way!

        • MrSkullhead

          I didn’t say anything about a goalie.

          • T K

            i know. i wasn’t speaking of your specific comments…. just about the general tone of recent comments that have been floating about…

          • MrSkullhead

            Ah, sorry. My bad.

            With you bringing up goalie… I keep wondering if I’d be alright with Anderson going… putting all our eggs in the Lehner basket.

          • T K

            I’d like Murray to work at keeping egos in check to see how many years we can ride this two headed pony

    • Robert Cyr

      Agree on this statement by T K !

      Yakupov has been a “showboat” player since he came to Canada in Junior Hockey.

      Needs to radically change his attitude, and play for the team,rather
      than himself !!

      Snoopy Senior

  • Mr Hockey

    As much as I’d love to get one of the Oilers top young guns (especially Eberle), trading one of our goalies leaves no one to back up if the guy we keep gets injured or plays bad. I don’t want Dubnyk at all.

    • Millennium

      Well true, but we can’t keep Andy and Lehner for ever. Both are legit #1 goalies, and whoever isn’t getting paid/played will walk if we don’t make a move. At some point we have no choice but to trade one of them or risk losing one for nothing.

      But that time isn’t now, and I would be shocked if we moved a goalie this season.

      • MrSkullhead

        If it happened, I’d be surprised as well. I didn’t catch much of preseason, did any of the young guns perform well?

        • Millennium

          In the crease? I don’t really recall offhand, but if we were calling up a goalie, my guess would be Lawson. he’s not young (30), but he has some NHL games, and a respectable stat sheet in the AHL.

      • The Apostle

        Agree. The best thing about our goalie situation at the moment is that if Anderson gets injured or starts making his own meals again we don’t have a noticeable drop-off between the pipes. There is nothing to replace either goalie within the system at the moment so movement during the season doesn’t make any sense – unless we have tumbled out of the playoff race by deadline day, which I don’t expect.

        As others have said trading Anderson at the draft is a much better plan plus there will probably be an experienced UFA goalie out there who we could look at to back-up Lehner.

        Another option is keeping them both next season and looking at it then. Maybe I’m crazy but having two really good goalies is a good thing isn’t it?

        • Millennium

          Well realistically, we could probably resign Andy and keep both for a few more years since Lehner is an RFA just coming out of his ELC this coming offseason. And even though we’ve been talking about him forever, we lose sight of the fact that he’s only 22.

          My concern with that is twofold: first, Lehner might not be happy about that, and might want the starting job that he arguably deserves. That might create contract headaches, or maybe even resentment. I don’t know, but its something to consider. The other part of it is that even as an RFA, Lehner is gonna require a decent raise, and Andy will need a decent raise too after next year. And if EM’s money troubles are ongoing, he might not want to carry too much money in the crease, in which case he will favour shipping Andy out and getting way more value per dollar with Lehner.

          • The Apostle

            I agree that keeping them both isn’t a long term solution unless (a) Lehner proves he can’t be the number one – which I don’t think is going to happen or (b) Anderson takes a organisation friendly approach to his next contract – which isn’t impossible, but is unlikely to save us a great deal of money.

            I don’t see a desperate need to move anybody now and I don’t think it’s a disaster going in to next season with them both around.

            I agree Lehner is going to have to be given a go at the starting job next year or the year after. It will be interesting to see if the sens can go with $6million for their two goalies and if Anderson would accept a job backing up Lehner (which I seriously doubt).

    • matsoukas45

      Nathon Lawson would get called up nhl experience with Islanders

  • Peluso

    I just want to say a giant FUCK YOU to all of the people who call themselves fans and never go to the games. It’s not Melnyk’s fault, it’s YOUR fault that there are empty seats. Today at the CTC we have a potential preview of the Stanley Cup 3 years from now, two Canadian teams, on a Saturday afternoon. The Sens have the cheapest tickets of any NHL team. It’s not the owner’s fault that the team will leave in 4 years – the blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the complacent.
    So enjoy watching the game in your pyjamas assholes. If you’re at the game, I’ll see you there.
    Go fucking Sens.

    • MrSkullhead

      Have you considered a job in the PR dept. for the Sens? I see a future there.

      • Peluso

        Well aren’t you clever! Apparently there’s not a lot you know about me.

        Maybe we should get half of the wingnuts on twitter questioning every goddamn ting that they think is wrong with the Sens, their owner, the captain etc, and make them the PR agents?

        Tell me, Mr. (sexual-move venacular), why do YOU think that there will be 2000 empty seats today? YOU tell me why Ottawa is the only CDN team who struggles with this, while having the lowest prices in Canada?

        If you think there’s a better PR move, then tell me. Chirp knows how to reach me. Otherwise, as as I suggested above, if people don’t support this team, and just want to armchair the shit out of it, then it won’t fucking be here in a couple of years. It’ll follow the path of the Roughriders, the Lynx, the Renegades, and the Original Senators. And the fault will be entirely that of shit fans that don’t come to the games.

        • T K

          #1 I’m pretty sure that he was only trying to be funny and not disagreeing.
          #2 There are more ways than one to support the team, some of which have much better profit margins than game tickets. These include merch and TV revenue.
          I’m a season ticket holder so please feel free to slam me.

        • MrSkullhead

          Gear down, big rig. First off, it was a joke with how hostile you write(Which is still showcasd above)

          http://www.forbes.com/teams/ottawa-senators/

          16th isn’t too bad. Part of the problem was the way tickets were dealt with via taxes for big companies not being able to write them off. That was a big part of how we kept attendance high.

          As for this year, I think the fairweather fan has lost some interest due to some bad media and the Alfie situation.

          • Peluso

            As far as I know, businesses can still write off tickets to the tune of 50%. That hasn’t changed.

            Look – all I’m saying is that there will be 2000 empty seats today. And I wonder how the fuck that happens in a “hockey market”, on a Saturday afternoon, against a great team in Edmonton.

            I’m sick of people blaming the owner. If fans showed up, and we had a waiting list for season seats like the rest of the damn CDN teams, WE WOULD STILL HAVE ALFIE. We would be a cap team. But no, it doesn’t sell out, and then people blame the one guy who is hemorrhaging money, and they can’t shell out $30-50 to watch the best hockey in the world.

            It’s a huge concern.

          • MrSkullhead

            The Sens are doing okay. I don’t think we’ll lose the team by any means.

            Could attendance be better?

            Yes.

            Would it be nice to have more diehard Sens fans as oppose to the people who watch a few games a year on TV and think Spezza is our worst player and Ron Tugnutt is still our goalie?

            Yes.

          • SensChirp

            I left in a car right after the game for the first time in awhile and ya know what? It really does suck getting out of that place. If you wait an hour or take the bus it’s not so bad but a lot of people don’t have those options.

            After so many years out there, it’s ridiculous that they can’t get cars out faster. It’s a minor thing but the location of the rink, combined with the pain in the ass process getting out of there is likely enough to keep some less dedicated fans away, I think.

    • MikeS

      I live in gta and come down twice a year for games

    • T K

      Man, Peluso, you need to add a bit of punch to your posts. Please consider drinking a couple of espressos and eating a few chocolate bars before posting…

      • Peluso

        Whatever it takes Butters.

    • PraiseAlfie11

      Peluso, you know what channel the game is on? :)

      • Peluso

        you’re not going to have a fucking team to watch if we don’t fill the barn. You’ll still have your precious Red Wings though, and the captain that jumped ship.

        • PraiseAlfie11

          Already have tix for SJS game. Will probably go to another 4 or 5 games this year. If that isn’t enough for you, then do to yourself as you would say to others :)

        • PraiseAlfie11

          Jesus…you’re worse than my ex-gf! You take drama queen lessons on a groupon with her or something?

          Here’s a gold star for your tantrum, diva.

          Now in seriousness, 2000 seats for a crap time against a crap team in a different conference isn’t worthy of panic.

          • Peluso

            Sounds like there’s a comparable of your GF to the photo seen above. That doesn’t bode well for you and your prowess Don Juan.

            I’ll take that gold star and ram it up your arse far enough that your tongue still licks the back of it – how about that?

            2000 people for a weekend game, where our star player played last year, against a team with whom we made the biggest trade of the summer, against whom we lost our only Stanley Cup final series in modern history, and against a team that is currently on a 6 game win streak.

            Don’t mistake passion for “drama” asshole.

            Say hi to your GF, who somehow I remind you of, for me.

          • PraiseAlfie11

            Haha…you’re a very unique character, Peluso.

    • GoSensGoEh

      All of a sudden, I miss Tookie and the trolls, well, the opposing trolls anyway. That was a good way to make this forum your own little toilet bowl.

      BTW, I watched the game at home, on TV, wearing my PJ’s, without a single piece of Senators gear on. I’m a bad person.

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      Attendance was 18,760 yesterday. 1000 short max, time to panic?

      • Peluso

        next week when there are 4,000 empty ones vs Anaheim and SJ it will be.

        Why has no one here been able to explain why it is that we are the only team that can’t sell out? Why are we the only team where there isn’t a waiting list for people to get season seats?

        Who has a fucking answer? (and if you suggest because “it’s far”, or some bullshit like taht, you’re an ignorant idiot. If Moncton had a team, they’d flock from 100′s of miles out, for every single game).

        It’s bullshit.

      • Peluso

        If you were there, you would have seen the 2000 empty seats.

  • SensChirp

    Grant in. Pageau out. Interesting

    • The Apostle

      No point bringing him up if you aren’t going to play him. I guess sitting Kassian was a more obvious choice but I think MacLean likes whatever it is that he brings. Pageau has struggled so far – especially in the face-off circle. We all like Pageau, but I don’t think any of us can be truly outraged at this decision.

  • Millennium

    I’ll just say it, I’m not really sure what Pmac is doing with our Bottom 6. I mean, I trust him, but I don’t see the setup he is aiming for. I guess I’ll just stop trying to guess, and sit back and see how it plays out.

    • Zakary

      Good idea more people should do that

    • Zachpraisetheswedes

      I think its pretty obvious really. The 3rd line is all speed and the 4th line is all grit. Pretty much what a typical bottom 6 should be

      • Millennium

        Well Yost has the lines listed differently than Chirp does. I don’t know which one is right (if either are). He has them as:

        Greening-Smith-Neil
        Kassian-Grant-Condra

        But I was more referring to the general shuffling of the bottom two lines. They aren’t consistently going speed or grit on one line.

  • SensFanInMTL

    Always exciting to see Edmonton come to town. Heritage jersey day today folks!

  • A Train

    I just can’t see any way we trade a goalie…this season, or even next. What are we getting back? A recent top ten pick? We already have one playing in the minors who can’t seem to crack the team this year. Would we get a young superstar with a rich contract? Doubtful, and how would we pay for that? By sending back another big forward contract? Then where would we be?

    The speculation is fun, but it makes little sense on multiple levels.

    Anderson is the starter, and will be until he is significantly outplayed by Lehner over a long stretch of games.

  • markuki111

    God, these heritage jerseys are uuuuugly

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Spezz got absolutely burnedddddd on that play. Nice move by Ebs on Lehner too. He should have had that save

    • matsoukas45

      If spezza used the body there wouldn`t of been a goal same on the second if he just put his body on someone

  • SensFanInMTL

    And I’ll keep this world from dragging me down well I…. won’t… back…. down.

  • MrSkullhead

    Robin…

  • yannrock

    oh man!

  • QSenFan

    Sens are slow and no jump in their game

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Lehner’s been very very bad so far.

  • Conor_smythe

    YAAA LETS TRADE ANDERSON!!!!

    Lehner looks sharp as a spoon

    • Conor_smythe

      Does anybody know WHY Lehner made 50something saves last week?

      because he has no rebound control, which gives the opponents twice as many chances

      • Kielbasa

        But it has nothing to do with our D allowing that many shots through and the inability to clear the front of the net?

        • Conor_smythe

          oh it definitely does. Our defence is horrible. we have Cowen and wiercioch as 3/4. they have a combined 140 games experience. what is our management thinking?

          that doesn’t negate the fact that lehner lets out rebounds on 90% of the shots he faces, even when those shots go right into his glove

        • FSJ123

          D still sucks but would be 30 without the rebounds…Lehner is HIGHLY overrated…they should have kept Bishop…

          • Tooks

            Bishops stats speak for themselves, and with a worst D than in Ottawa…Lehner is still probably going to turn out better.

          • FSJ123

            i didn’t mean to imply they should have traded Lehner, just kept Bishop…needs more time in the AHL i think before being a true 1 or 1a or 1b

  • Zorav

    and you wonder why we don’t sell out ….. we’ve got have a jump. C’mon boys!

  • Kielbasa

    Great start Sens. Stupid penalty after stupid penalty. The coaches need to start doing their jobs. The D is atrocious. They manage to make every team they play against look elite.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Ryan banged up his leg, but doesn’t look like a serious injury imo

    • Conor_smythe

      so you’re an expert? :P

      • jasonontheoldsenschirp

        He’s back.

        • Tooks

          Ya but playing like shit, no point of making the injury worse, he seems to be having pushing issues.

  • MikeS

    guys just calm down. edm gives up 4+ goals every game

    • Tooks

      Ya we got to fucking shoot on Dubnyk, guy is swiss cheese!

  • Tooks

    He didnt return to the bench, could be a knee bruise. Looked like he hit his knee on the post but hard to tell live.

    Yak finally getting a chance in top 6 and he sets up RNH, go figure…

  • SensFanInMTL

    __

    • Conor_smythe

      yup. the real story there is Zibby’s shooting percentage. who cares if you take a lot of shots if you can’t bury any of them.

      this is the exact message the team was trying to send him. he’s a huge waster of possesion because as soon as he steps over the blueline, he shoots.

      he needs to carry the puck into the more dangerous scoring areas, and THEN shoot.

  • JGP44

    Another PP for EDM? Seriously… this is rediculous.

  • SensFanInMTL

    Penalties keep mounting don’t they eh? This is getting to be a serious issue now.

  • HamadBo$$

    fuuucckkk whats with all these penalties

  • MrSkullhead

    We are trying to improve our PK %. Giving bad PP teams penalties to pad our stats.

  • Kielbasa

    I love what Methot brought to the team last year. This year is a different story. I think he needs to sit a couple games to get his head back on straight. Karlsson as well. The two of them are a liability at the moment.

    • MrSkullhead

      Yes… that will make us win games…

      *Sigh*

      • Kielbasa

        Because they are helping us at the moment with ill-timed pinches….stupid penalties…and poor defensive play.

        • MrSkullhead

          You should watch the game with your eyes open. It will help.

          • Kielbasa

            Intelligent reply. Thanks. I’ll do just that.

          • MrSkullhead

            You want a real reply.

            Here is what happens:
            We bench Karlsson, our PP becomes abysmal and we no longer have a good break out pass. Then, there is the second part of the equation, who do you replace him with?

            Borocop? Ceci?

            Take out Methot. We lose someone who can clear the net and is a true warrior out there.

            And who replaces him?

            Corvo? Borocop?
            If you think any of those players would be better on the ice, you aren’t a very smart person.

          • Kielbasa

            Sitting out a game or two doesn’tmean the sky is going to fall. It’s to make these two responsible for their poor irresponsible play. You can disagree with my comment all you want but grow up with the pointless attacksat those with a different opinion.

          • MrSkullhead

            It’s the words of a mad man.

          • MrSkullhead

            I’d love to see this site if what you said happened.

            Paulrus has benched Karlsson and Methot and is starting Corvo and Borocop in their place.

            LOL.

          • SensFanInMTL

            Everyone is responsible for their actions. If you don’t meet to certain standards, why should management continue going to the well multiple times?

  • MikeS

    wow our pp looks brutal. trying to get cross seem passes instead of just getting the puck on net…

  • SensFanInMTL

    Line up changes for Wednesday’s game against Detroit:

    Puempel – Zibanejad – Robinson
    Prince – Da Costa – Petersson
    Kramer – Pageau – Stone
    Dziurzynski – Hamilton – O’Brien

  • MikeS

    how are we getting shutout by the oilers? this is sad…………………….. :(

  • Tooks

    Fack were winning every statistical category but losing the game….Once they get 1 goal, watch the flodgates open!! Just 1!

    • MrSkullhead

      Everyone who calls out Tookie for being a Leafs fan… screen cap this post.

  • MikeS

    spezza looked like hes on a mission in that interview

  • Luc Wolfe

    This team is frustrating to watch. I still think we are missing a top six forward. Won’t happen with melnyk

  • SensFanInMTL

    We will score at 17:26 in the 3rd. We will then score at 12:17. We will then score at 3:38 remaining and win the game.

    • MikeS

      why the random times? now if we dont score in the first 3 min Im gonna be paranoid we will lose

      • SensFanInMTL

        Early goals happen from time to time with us. Then a tie breaker at mid game. Then, we seal the deal and off to Detroit on Wednesday where we say hello to Alfie.

        • MikeS

          would be sweet if you got the times right :)

    • Luc Wolfe

      You’d fail miserably. .. hehe

    • SensFanInMTL

      Welp there goes the first goal we won’t get. Come onnnnn, second one!

  • hq8

    sens major accomplishments this game:
    1. injure taylor hall
    2. make dubnyk look like an NHL starting goalie again.

    they dont look like a playoff team against the oilers this afternoon, which is never a good sign.

  • MikeS

    wow 5 on 3 off that…

  • MikeS

    that was a HUGE dive

  • SensFanInMTL

    Penalty # 82 so far in the 8th game of the regular season.

  • Colin

    Fuck it! Just make up lines of 4 and keeps the refs happy. Saves straining their arms.

  • xN1Cx

    Hard to freaking watch.

  • MikeS

    holy crap our pk looks good right now. glad the fans are letting the refs hear it

  • SensFanInMTL

    There’s absolutely no way to strike against certain officials in the NHL? Like, P-Mac just keeps his guys on the bench and doesn’t send anyone out on the ice?

    • MikeS

      No idea. maybe just shoot the puck at the refs over and over when the games out of hand?

      • SensFanInMTL

        We need to get back at the refs. Because they’re the ones ultimately costing us this game. I have yet to witness a decent shot in which Dubnyk actually makes an amazing save. Because he just looks bored out there.

    • MikeS

      I give em a pass on the cowen penalty, I thought it was legit at live speed.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Cowen took a penalty for back checking……. The Edmonton player ran into him and Cowen gets called for tripping? Bad refereeing

  • MikeS

    asghashahasfg………best refs ever

  • hq8

    can we sit phillips in favor of corvo, atleast his shot on the PP is heavier

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Karl needs to use him teammates more and shorten the amount of time the puck is on his stick on the PP.

  • Guest

    #FreeMika #LazarBeam #FistPuemp

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    We’re about to lose against the worst team and worst goalie in the league :(

    • Luc Wolfe

      Yup… sadly

    • SensFanInMTL

      You are correct. But we were scored on by the best players of that shitty team.

      • hq8

        no we were scored on by our own players. spezza with the bad pinch and spezza’s line with just sloppy defensive zone play on the 2nd goal. yea i dont like having to mention spezza’s name negatively, but it is what it is.

        • jasonontheoldsenschirp

          This

        • SensFanInMTL

          They’re still good players though. I try to trade everything I have to try to get them on my team in Be A GM: Fantasy Draft – on.

          • hq8

            have you looked at the oilers record? they are not in this game even as they are playing it right now.

          • SensFanInMTL

            It’s still up to us to catch up to them in the scoring. What’s the point harping on 1st period goals we can’t erase?

          • hq8

            the point is that how do you explain being down 2-0 to the worst team in the league and about to get shutout by the worst goalie in the league.

          • hq8

            ofcourse they just jammed one through. so game on. but still. it should not have been this hard against an oilers team which has been a defenseless to start the season.

          • SensFanInMTL

            buuuuut it has. So let’s score another one yeah?

          • hq8

            i guess you meant for the edomonton oilers?

    • MikeS

      We are about to get SHUTOUT by the worst goalie in the league ……

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      I want Mika back.

    • Conor_smythe

      Dont let the points fool you

      So far this season, ottawa has been just as bad as edmonton

    • Tooks

      We’re about to lose against the worst team and worst goalie in the league….with their best player (Hall) leaving halfway in the 2nd…

  • SensFanInMTL

    #FreeMika #LazarBeam #FistPuemp

  • MikeS

    wtf how that go in?

  • MikeS

    what a weird goal

  • Tooks

    Who else but Neiler!!

  • Tooks

    Oh shit did Neil hit it in with his glove?

    Nope! good goal!

    • MikeS

      good goal, well garbage but fair

  • MikeS

    only good thing out of this game is i have RNH in my pool….

  • FSJ123

    time to make Karlsson a healthy scratch, he has to be taught a lesson…

    • HamadBo$$

      you serious -_-

    • Sensturion

      Karlsson is playing like he always plays. I thought he had a decent night.

    • FSJ123

      he’s not playing “bad” just arrogant and without urgency…he needs to be knocked down a peg…

      • FSJ123

        he’s a kid, he’s great, it’s understandable but can’t take it for granted

    • hq8

      dunno why you are on karlsson’s case here when PW46 shot wide to give RNH the chance in the first place. the game was done at that point when he shot it wide. the ENG is just an icing on the cake for EDM, but for the sens the game ended there. with your goalie pulled, i think the logical thing to do is to try to put your shots on the other goalie, not miss them.

      • FSJ123

        it’s not just today, more of a season long thing, Karlsson is not playing like the Norris trophy winner, more like he know’s he’s the best…arrogant…

    • SensChirp

      Haha hope this is a joke. He played half the game

      • FSJ123

        again, he’s not playing “bad”…just arrogant…and he’s not the reason we lost, completely separate issues…

        • Floridasensfan

          Bit of a stupid comment, Karlsson was throwing pucks at the net all game, he was not perfect but who was.

  • Mike

    This is pathetic even the laughs can beat the oilers if this team can’t beat the bad teams how can they make the playoffs

    • sprucesens

      seriously, the oilers were gonna win until 30 seconds left, when they (leafs)tied it. If we woulda got a bounce and a goal at the end before they got the empty netter, and we won in OT, nobody would be complaining. calm it down. Yes its bad play, but we certainly weren’t outplayed. The parade to the box needs to stop, and the D need to take a hard look at what they’re doing

  • Tooks

    Karlsson totally screwed that up…then couldnt catch up…Not a good game for him…

    • hq8

      how did karlsson screw that up lol. what is wiercoch doing shooting it wide in the first fucking place. the sens need a change in their assistant coaching staff as these are typically set plays. most teams DONT WAIT. THEY BOMBARD SHOTS AT NET. What do the sens do, they try to set up cute passes at the 60th minute of the game, something they should have done in their 7 powerplays.
      my duds for the game:
      spezza (bad pinch +2nd goal), methot (bad pinch w/spezz) lehner and PW46 for that last missed shot.

      they made the shittiest goaltender in the league look like he has vezina capability and gave him back all the confidence he needed lol

      only accomplishment all game: they injured hall.

      i predict a tough year. 8 gms in, dont see how the next two games change anything right now.

  • Conor_smythe

    Another game. Another poor performance. This team looks horrible. Its unbelievable that weve managed to get a single point this season

  • Mike

    Well right now this team is the third worst in the division right now even the lightning are doing better than the sens are right now what a joke this team is not making the playoffs this year if they continue to struggle and can not stay out of the box just terrible

    • hq8

      yea well thats what happens when you give up possibly a goaltending marvel for cory conacher who can create all the ire in the world but cant seem to score for the sens. Ben Bishop: already 5 wins on the season. oh wait thats two more wins than the senators themselves.

      • Millennium

        “goaltending marvel”, yeah ok pal, whatever you say.

        • hq8

          well, when andy was out, it was bishop and lehner winning us games. and i dont see whats so wrong with saying that when ALL of tampa’s wins have come with bishop in net. he was great here, he was great when he was in the st.louis organization and he is doing it in Tampa. on the other hand, we havent even won 5 games yet. im not saying bishop is better than andy and lehner, because quite frankly he was on-par and thats why he had to be traded, we cant keep three goalies of the same calibre in the org. but what we got back isnt really working out for us. conacher hasnt really produced alot for the sens while bumping out guys like Zibanejad and Stone from the 2nd line spot. so yea right now, that trade is failing the senators. by goaltending marvel, i meant we gave tampa what it needed to win, but didnt get back anything of the sort.

          • sprucesens

            i loved bishop, like you said, can’t have 3 great goalies. Anderson was having a record breaking year, lehner and bishop both posted amazing splits with him out. We had absolutely no offense last year, so we traded for a young high scoring rookie to help out. Much like how we aquired bishop in the first place. He was only in the organization because andy went down, and we needed a solid duo to make the playoffs. The deadline was upon us, and only so many teams wanted a goalie. Tampa has a solid team with a solid set of prospects, and probably the best current pure goal scorer in the world.
            I’d say turris has been our best player so far, with conacher a close 2nd. They both have played excellent, and are likely due more points than the both currently have. We didn’t lose the trade. It was a win win for both teams. Thats how most trades work. And being that tampa’s other option is basically another unproven goalie, bishop didn’t have the largest competition. So good for him

  • Sensturion

    Ottawa played a good game. Unfortunately we didn’t get to Dubnyk early on and it cost us. Melnyk, nut up and fire your bestie Cameron. Dude can’t run a powerplay if his life depended on it. On to the next one!

  • Ozzyhockey

    Patrick Wiercioch needs to be traded ASAP. Nothing but brain dead plays the whole game. Horrible hockey IQ, horrible at defence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Sensturion

      While I wouldn’t go as far as trading Wiercioch, he does need a lot of work with his skating and drive out there. He seems very lacsidasical (sp?). What he needs is a game or two to watch from a different angle.

      • Ozzyhockey

        Agree, but in all honesty Corvo would have played that 2-1 better than him. After that goal, I focused in on Wiercoich, nothing but horrible hockey decisions. D and O… his hockey IQ sucks.

  • Mike

    To early to just give up and tank and try to get Mcdavid lol

    • sprucesens

      that, and he’s not in this draft….

    • yannrock

      And we don’t have a first pick

  • MikeS

    people just calm down. Long way to the playoffs

  • hq8

    i guess the other way to look at it is that the oilers demonstrated to the senators how to win games when you suck at faceoffs and are also outshot.

  • MikeS

    2 years ago they started the season 1-7 and made the playoffs

  • Voice Of Reason

    As early as it is in the season, there is plenty to be concerned about. Spezza is back to doing his blind passes, Karlsson is trying to do too much without the speed he had pre-injury, and the defense is just horrible.

    I don’t see things changing anytime soon. Zibanejad and Pageau need to be in the line-up. Kassian and Grant don’t belong. On defense, not a single guy has played to his norm and that is probably the most worrysome issue on this team.

    I know anyone who mentions trading Anderson gets chastized on here but that is currently the only position of strength for the Sens and we need to use it to address a more pressing need at D. We have to trade Anderson for a solid D and a backup G. I don’t know what team has a need for a goalie and would be willing to part with a top 4 D but we better hope there’s one out there cause things may get too out of hand to save this one.

    • FSJ123

      as someone known for overreacting…good god…you trade Anderson and they have no goalies if Lehner goes down…you could have the 6 best defensemen in the world but if you don’t have a goalie you are toast…

      • Voice Of Reason

        You and all 5 of your followers don’t know much about hockey. Name me contenders that have two #1 goalies? They don’t! You simply don’t waste a valuable asset sitting on the bench when there are glaring needs at other positions. There are plenty of good backup goalies to be had. That’s the least of my worries. We need a stud defenseman way more then we need a #1 goalie sitting on the bench. A defensive core that can stifle the opposition will do a heck of a lot more at preventing goals against and giving our offense more puck possession time than having a trophy goalie on the shelf will.

  • PraiseAlfie11

    I would have expected play like this last year. If they keep playing like this, there is zero chance of them being a playoff team.

    Good thing this is happening now. Still, I’m beginning to wonder if last year was a fluke caused by all the injuries that made everyone work that much harder.

    Thinking of defense, where are all the gonchar haters now?

    • hq8

      dunno if having gonchar would have been any better.

      but yea this kind of performance does make you wonder if it was all a fluke.

    • Conor_smythe

      there was so much focus on “can wiercioch fill the offensive void left by gonchar”

      forgot to ask “can wiercioch fill the defensive void left by gonchar”

      Gonch had one skill that Cowen and Wiercioch lack: get to the puck before the opponent

      • sprucesens

        i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again. Gonchar was the worst defensive defenceman our team has had in years. He was lazy, and never went into corners. If he got hit cleanly, he always retaliated and got penalized. Gonchar not being on the team has nothing to do with our current team play. They outplayed the oilers today, but didn’t create any quality scoring chances.

        The oilers created about 3 scoring chances, and scored on 2 of them.

        But yes, the defence coverage and play has been terrible this year. Not one player on the D looks as good as they did last year, let alone even in preseason.

        • Conor_smythe

          Say it as many times as you want. Just makes you look dumb

          PicArd. Kuba. Lee. sUtton. Schubert. Rookie karlsson. Phillips past 3 seasons

          All those guys have played worse defense than gonchar

          • sprucesens

            all 7th defenceman except for kuba, who i agree was as bad as gonchar, and yet people were crying when he left. defensively i’d take the poorer play of phillips, than the “aww crap i got burned, i’m not gonna hustle back since its gonna be a goal” play of gonchar.
            I also would have prefered to have lee on the ice. He was never given much of a shot. And also chosen way too early in the draft for his caliber.
            But 7th defenceman aside, saying gonchar is missed because of his defensive capabilities is like saying we need condra for his offensive capabilities. I’m not saying gonchar was never good defensively, but while he was on our team, and the last year or 2 on pittsburgh, he was atrocious. If he wasn’t the primary D last year because of injuries, he would have had less than half the points he had, and you would have liked him about the same as me. A 5.5 Million dollar defenceman should be much better than he was. Remember, just a few years ago, gonchar played so bad that people felt the need to boo him in his own building. And no, i wasn’t one of them.
            I can 100% say that Murray is not thinking, “man, i wish i kept gonchar instead of trading his rights for a 7th round pick, because his defensive capabilites are superior to the guys i have on my squad now” Give your head a shake

  • MoeDozer

    atleast the positives outside ottawa is zibby had 2 assists last night and is playing again at the moment. hoping to find a stream soon..

    lazar continues to be a monster in the WHL with a 2g2a game in a 4-0 win. he also is playing again tonight.

  • Tony Gallo

    Just heard from my realtor that Lehner has bought Alfredsson’s Ottawa home!

    • Ozzyhockey

      That happened a while ago, it was in the sun.

  • Tony Gallo

    According to Rich Smith, Oilers also getting calls from Red Wings, Sens, and Sabres about Yakupov. Oil looking for a goaltender in return.

    Don’t know Rich’s reputation but Ottawa/Edmonton rumours still floating around

    • Tony Gallo

      Is Rich Smith another Eklund?

  • hq8

    as good as paul maclean is, i dont envy his job one bit, having to face the media with a straight face after that kind of performance…..he should be given an award for putting up with the sens for the first 8 games of this season alone

  • sprucesens

    If you want to wake up the team, sit wiercioch and cowen, play corvo and bring up Ceci. Sit greening and condra, bring up robinson and zibby. Can then return Ceci and robinson, and grant. Keep zib as 3c and have point proven to the rest of the players.

    • Jacques

      Not overly impressed with Cowen. I think that Gryba is an overall better D-man than Cowen. People like to shit on Gryba because they know shit, but I was at the Edmonton game today and Gryba was awesome especially on the 5-3 penalty kill. He also distributed A few jarring hits. Love this guy. We need another top winger to be elite.

      • sprucesens

        agree, haven’t seen much from cowen yet this year. And have been much more impressed by gryba. Seems to have made a huge stride in his game over this time last year. But having said that, the entire sens D core hasn’t looked very good recently. Nobody is throwing hits because they are too afraid of taking a penalty. And probably rightly so with the way calls have been going.

  • Ozzyhockey

    We need Yakupov ASAP. We need at least 1 Russian player on this team, they see the game different than North American players and can be difference makers. Diss them all you want, but they always seem to put up points!

    • MoeDozer

      the last russians to win a cup in past 7 years were: voynov 2012 kings, gonchar 2009, datsyuk 2008, bryz 2007..

      which only datsyuk and gonchar were big pieces during their run. you could argue voynov but he wasnt the most major reason

      im a fan of russians, dont get me wrong but they may get you the points during the season but it doesnt guarantee a cup. almost would seem like it requires a HOF level russian to have them lead you to a cup..now go find one of those thats cheap enough to trade for..

      • hq8

        #headshake #facepalm

        • sprucesens

          yeah, we dont need yakupov at all. If he was available at a very acceptable price, then sure. But he certainly isn’t something we NEED. We have plenty of talent within to promote, no need to take other people’s problems

  • hq8

    just get the feeling watching alot of the games that this is going to be a tough tough year with maybe a very tough bitter pill to swallow at the end of it.

    • hq8

      also need PHX to do us a favor tonight.

    • SensChirp

      Ha. We’ll be fine.

      • hq8

        well PHX helped in a big way. 5-2 win over alfie and the wings, including a goal by mike smith into the empty net with 0.1 seconds remaining

  • sprucesens

    i don’t know what to say. reading the blog after a loss gets a little ridiculous. We’ve got everything from trade anderson, trade for yakupov, fire coaches, bring back gonchar, we got screwed on the trade with tampa by getting conacher for bishop, because bishop’s team has won. Trade wiercioch because he’s been awful…
    while anderson’s play hasn’t been what we have been used to, he’ll recover. And we’ve got lehner behind him. You need 2 goalies to win you games, especially when one gets injured or overworked. Yakupov has been benched already this season, on the oilers, who have only won 2 games now. Not saying he isn’t a good player, but right now, the oiler’s haven’t even wanted to play him, and the price would be steep.
    Powerplay coach does need work, but in the end, its the players making too many passes and dumb plays, not the coach. And its hard to get a PP running smoothly when you never get them. Tonight was a anomoly with what, 5? Don’t get used to that any time soon…
    Gonchar is currently sporting a -5 with only 1 point this year. But yeah..he could have been the answer to our defensive woes….(sarcasm) Conacher has been one of our best most pesky players who was responsible for one of our only wins this year. He was also nearly a leading rookie scorer last year. And is currently being played on our top line because of his excellent play. If the rest of players were working as hard as he was, we’d have a much larger number in the W column.
    Wiercioch is now in his sophomore year, and yes does need to improve his play, like the rest of the D. Currently has 5 points and a plus 2. Would you have traded karlsson after his first year? How dumb would that have looked now? (not saying they are even remotely close). Give him time.
    I guess i forgot about all the people that thought ryan was in a slump, and we needed to trade spezza asap. Spezza is again, over a ppg and has a hatty on the year already. Ryan has 7 pts in 8 games.
    Calm down people. The team will recover, players will improve, or be sent to the press box. Take a breath, have a beer, and look forward to the next 70+ games that they have to right the ship.

  • Robert Cyr

    No doubt in my mind, that this was a complete stinker of a performance, and hey this
    does still happen now and then !

    Coach McLean will hold a few practices, and work on problem areas that need much
    improvement. Will most likely see Anderson back in goal for the next few games,as the Sens play 4 top teams starting with Red Wings, Ducks, Sharks, and final October game
    against the Blackhawks.. Somehow, in order to stay in this race, they need to win as many as possible, and also establish the perfect chemistry, as to the top 2 line combinations, and stick with it to have consistency!

    GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Snoopy Senior

  • WaitingSince92

    Perhaps what MacLean and Murray are doing by starting with DaCosta/Pageau, then trying Grant is to see which of their NON-Zibanejad prospects might work.

    They KNOW Zibanejad will work out in the NHL, so maybe if Grant doesn’t perform, they’ll even call up Stone and/or Hoffman before Zibby.

    I also assume it’s at least partly because of finances, which means trying multiple players out before Mika saves our pathetic owner a few hundred thousand bucks.

    • Aaron 2.0

      I suspect you’re probably right regarding money being part of the equation with Zibanejad. If so, I think it’s a very short-sighted and stupid gamble. The league is so competitive since the salary cap. I think it makes more sense to have your best players for the absolute best chance at making the playoffs. Any number of circumstances can hurt even really good teams (e.g. injuries later in the season).

      Imagine if this team misses by the smallest of margins while keeping a better player in the AHL to save money. In that scenario, they probably lose a lot more from playoff revenue. Of course, it’s not a guarantee that in this situation Zibanejad would have been the difference in making it to the big dance. But, if you miss, you have to really question if not having your best team had an impact.