Game Day- Senators Host Foligno and the Blue Jackets

SensChirp November 17, 2013 209
Game Day- Senators Host Foligno and the Blue Jackets

Coming off one of their worst losses of the season and after falling behind 2-0 against a powerful Bruins squad, it looked like the Senators were in serious trouble.  But rather than pack it in, the Ottawa Senators battled back for a rather pesky 4-2 win on home ice.  Now they look to make it two in a row when they take on Nick Foligno and the Columbus Blue Jackets.

It’s the final game of a five game homestand that aside from the let down against the Flyers, has actually been a pretty good one for the Senators.  A win would give them a 4-1 record over the five game stretch.  After this afternoon’s tilt with the Jackets, the Senators visit the Flyers on Tuesday, back home to take on the Wild on Wednesday before closing out the week with games in Detroit and Carolina on Saturday and Sunday.

These two teams met just twelve days ago with the Senators scoring a 4-1 victory.  Columbus is in a bit of a tailspin as of late, having won just once in their last nine games- a 5-2 win over the New York Islanders last Saturday.  They are without one of their top players in Marian Gaborik as he’s sidelined for the next 4-6 weeks with a knee injury.

Bobby Ryan, who was the victim of a headshot from Dennis Seidenberg on Friday night, did practice with the team yesterday afternoon.  The team was calling him questionable with neck and back stiffness.  He is expected to play but we’ll have to wait to hear from Paul MacLean to know for sure.  There is also a chance Erik Condra is ready to return for Ottawa.

(UPDATE 10:49 AM)- Bobby Ryan will play. Erik Condra draws in for Matt Kassian.

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Craig Anderson gets the start in the Ottawa goal.  Puck drop is scheduled for just after 1:00 PM at the Canadian Tire Centre with plenty of tickets still up for grabs.

The Daily Chirp-  Something to keep an eye on- The Edmonton Oilers have had a scout in attendance at the Canadian Tire Centre for the last three games. Scouts doesn’t always indicate trade talks but it’s worth noting.  The two teams seem like they might be a good match for a trade of some kind.  Both Darren Dreger and Bob McKenzie have mentioned that Ottawa is looking for a top six guy to play alongside Spezza.  In Edmonton, you’d have to think it’s only a matter of time before they move Ales Hemsky.  Ottawa was rumoured to have an interest in Hemsky during this past off season.

  • Jacques

    Hemsky, do it!

  • Dez Bryant

    We need defensive help, we are fine offensively. Im pretty sure Hemsky is not going to help our defence plus its better to get tougher not softer. Just look at our division.

    • sben

      yes but spezza seriously needs another top line forward to find chemistry with. Yakupov would be a good fit so even if our D needs help now our offense could also use retooling too. They’ll address defense later.

      • NickofTime

        You have got to be kidding, you want to add a Russian who is a flight risk with a bad attitude, small & soft & a one man show who can’t seem to get along with his coaches or teammates. I’d rather get rid of Spezza who seems to be the problem than add another potential problem in the dressing room. Spezza at least has some value while Edmonton may think Yakopov has value, he has zero value the way he has been acting this yr.
        Edmonton should send him to the minors, he was a terrible draft pick & to think they could have had Murray on defence a position they are weak in, idiots. Spezza has to stop giving the puck away, how about he starts with that, then actually start making some decent passes again. Should have made Neil captain, at least he gives it his all on every shift & isn’t a cry baby when things don’t go his way.

  • Mat

    Edmonton would have to absorb a chunk of the salary for Hemsky to be dealt to Ottawa. But I would be in favour. There’s still a ton of talent there. Who’d be going back? Wiercioch? Smith?

  • thepez

    Only thing that would make sense is if its a Hemsky for Michalek trade. Both expiring contracts at the end of the year. Plus they make about the same dollar wise, Hemsky at 5.5 and Michalek at 6. Michalek has the lower cap hit. To trade away Smith or Wiercioch would be foolish at this point for a guy like Hemsky.

    • SensChirp

      I really think it would have to be two separate deals. Finding someone to take Michalek (perhaps for some defensive help) and then a deal for a forward. #Budget

      • Conor_smythe

        #soundsfamiliar
        ;)

        • SensChirp

          Is that similar to what you were saying/hearing?

  • Jacques

    Who knows maybe Sens are looking for another young star instead – Yakupov?????

    • Jacques

      Could turn into another big win for us like the TUrris trade!

      • Sandy

        Or it could turn into Filatov?

  • SensChirp

    Coach confirms that Bobby Ryan will play. Condra draws in for Kassian.

  • Jason

    The schedule you have chirp is way off. Philly-Tues, Minny-wed, Det-Sat and Car-Sun.

    • SensChirp

      Yup. You are correct. Fixed that up

    • aegiszx

      Have to get through today, but by the looks of it the week will be tough. Philly is playing much better than they were last week, Minny is a threat even though Heatley is near useless now, and the Wings of course want to bounce back from that embarrassment we handed them.

  • SensChirp

    Great news!

    News Release: #Sens to introduce NHL Heritage Classic Jersey on Thursday, Nov. 28

    http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=691910

  • over at the Eklundstein place

    Ottawa – Florida trade scenarios being discussed

    Cowen,Michalek for Fleischmann Kulikov

    • Sandy

      I just can’t see them trading Cowen.. unless it’s to get Gudbranson… Giving up on Cowen right now I think would be a big mistake…
      Gryba goes before him.. but then the return for Gryba will not be what you would get for Cowen.
      Would Murray really trade for a Russian player?

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      Furthermore, we drafted Cowen ahead of Kulikov…it is a pride thing. Plus you don’t generally draft D for immediate impact. Fleischmann not an upgrade on Michalek

  • karlssens

    Enough about trade talk, just pull the trigger Murray!

  • over at the Eklundstein place

    Worst start time EVER – 1 PM Sunday = NFL Prime Time

  • karlssens

    Should be an easy 2pts for the sens tonight, anything less is a failure. Play hard, and get the W.

  • karlssens

    Where are all the sens fans at today?!

    • SensChirp

      Sunday afternoon start, I guess! Even Twitter is quiet right now.

  • Gordon Ramsli

    I have no interest in Hemsky or Yakupov.

    Can we tell SJ they owe us Tomas Hertl for Cheechoo screwing us over in the trade?

  • Millennium

    Hopefully Condra playing will mean defensive play. Replacing Kassian should leave the offensive threat unchanged :p

    • MikeS

      I disagree, condra will get zibby a few chances that kassian would never get him

  • Peluso

    So what, Dean Brown SHAVED the Hitler ‘stache for Movember? A bit weird. I’m celebrating Mulletovember. I don’t shampoo the back of my head the whole month. greeeeeezy! Go Fuckin Sens!

    ~ Peluso
    @Peluso44

  • Aaron 2.0

    Sens don’t look ready to play today. Columbus is badly outworking them. It’s amazing they continue to come out like this. Let’s hope they pick up steam throughout the game like on Friday.

    • Millennium

      Its a double whammy. Sens are always flat in afternoon games, and Sens are always flat in first periods this season.

      • MikeS

        unfortunately they have lots of afternoon games and at least 82 first periods

  • karlssens

    Looks like another 15,000 outing..

    • MikeS

      1:00 on a sunday vs columbus, 15000 is a great turnout imo

      • karlssens

        15,000 with cheap tickets won’t make us a salary cap team..

        • MikeS

          Just saying, not the most appealing game to attend

      • TookieIs100PercentRight

        Yeah it’s fantastic for the time and opponent. I’d have been shocked to see a full house vs. this garbage team. And Andy let in the first goal again.

  • T K

    Cyril Leeder said that the Sens, who traditionally suck in afternoon games, are deliberately asking the league for these games. It allows them to get away from the CBC’s control and creates more TV revenue for the team.

    I applaud management but they have to smack some heads on the team to get them to buy in to winning afternoon games.

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      1-3-1 in afternoon games. If less people go to these games or watch them, whose eyeballs will see the advertising?

  • MikeS

    neil crosschecked in the face….nothing

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      Neil tends to overembellish at times. Refs know he never misses any time so they are never going to call that.

    • Aaron 2.0

      Greening sort of pushed the blue jackets player into Neil. I think no call was probably the right call.

      • Aaron 2.0

        Not sure why the CBJ stick was so high to begin with though.

  • T K

    Grant seems to be one of the few that is fully awake.

    • MikeS

      the bottom 2 lines seem to be playing well, the top 2 havnt got out of bed yet

  • MikeS

    Lol, ryan just clocked macarthur

  • MikeS

    Wow….gryba

  • T K

    So Foligno playing his game gives Columbus a power play goal. When he wore a Sens jersey, it would have been a goalie interference penalty against the Sens… Sigh.

  • Aaron 2.0

    The team should be embarrassed by that effort. If cbj had any players with finish this game would likely be over. I just don’t get the mentality of this years’ sens. They’ve pretty much struggled all year long (save a few periods); they’re in no position to be taking any opponent lightly. Yeesh.

  • karlssens

    Great shift from
    Condra

  • Zorav

    it’s just so hard to get a read on this team…Play one exceptionally good game…and then immediately take the foot off the gas pedal and let the goalie do all the work…

    I understand and appreciate what they have been able to do in the last two years without the pressure on them to succeed. However, if you can’t succeed under pressure or at least make an honest effort to succeed under pressure… then…..I just don’t know..

  • karlssens

    Omg Phillips… Stop with the pp time

    • MikeS

      Well to be fair I think hes probably better on the pp then gryba/boro, id rather have cowen or methot out there though

  • MikeS

    Lol, im watching the columbus broadcast and they are saying that that penalty was super cheesy

  • MikeS

    wow…

  • bluebuyyoo

    Where is the fucking team that beat Boston????

    • aegiszx

      AT CHURCH?!

      • MikeS

        stealing my joke lol

  • Aaron 2.0

    Huge f*ck-up by the refs. They should probably be more embarrassed about that call then the sens for the 1st period.

  • Zorav

    Columbus : …so what if it’s a sunday, so what if we’re on the road, we’re here to play.
    Ottawa: ..oh it’s a sunday, so it’s all good.

    • MikeS

      Sens must be super religious this year, cause they always sleeping on sundays

      • Zorav

        Oh Don’t you dare bring religion into th….lol just kidding. I agree.

  • Jacques

    Don’t understand Why Cody Ceci isn’t brought up to play third pairing and with Karlsson on the Powerplay. Watching Phillips make no sense. And Condra he’ll never hurt his shoulders that’s for sure.

  • MikeS

    What a save by bob

  • aegiszx

    The PP. Thats the difference. Why the f- does this PP suck SO bad STILL!!!!

    • MikeS

      That last pp at least generated some chances

  • T K

    Nobody screening the goalie during the PP. No wonder nothing going in.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Bob looking real strong in net for CBJ. It’s going to be very hard to crawl back into this one.

    • Zorav

      Crawl? at this rate inching back into this more than we can ask for with the way we’re playing.

    • aegiszx

      Bob’s been a real good goalie for the Jackets. Yes the rest of his team sucks, but there’s no deny he’s one of the elite young goaltenders in this league.

  • MikeS

    Really didnt need to trip him there i think, he didnt have the room to make a move inside

  • karlssens

    Lawlllll sens pk

  • MikeS

    see ya next game guys. Im done with this game

  • karlssens

    One step forward, two steps back with these guys.

  • Zorav

    not an NHL game

  • Zorav

    Much better PP

  • SensChirp

    If this score and effort level holds, this could be enough to push Murray to make a deal of some kind. Could be an interesting Monday.

    • Zorav

      It’s like a disease they’ve all caught on to this season..

    • sprucesens

      hopefully. any word on who the 2 for 2 deal in florida could be? michalek and gryba for gudbranson and mathias?

    • Aaron 2.0

      If that were to happen, this could actually be a blessing in disguise.

  • karlssens

    There are no bright spots in this game today. Glaringly obvious that Phillips is done, and that we need another top 4 D.

    • bluebuyyoo

      Fuck yea! It’s all Phillips fault. I can’t believe he broke his stick on the PK.

  • hq8

    would like to know the sens PK numbers when its andy in net and when its lehner in net.

  • Millennium

    One thing that is glaring apparent is that we have too many ‘tweeners’ and no 2nd line. The best third line we could possibly ice right now would be some combo of Zibby, Conacher, and Greening which is depressing even before you consider that one of those guys has to be moved up into the top 6 as it stands at the moment. If we got a real 2nd line winger for Spezza (and someone finds where Michalek has been hiding all season), then the bottom 6 could be some mix of:
    Conacher – Zibanejad – Greening/Condra
    Grant – Smith – Neil
    Which isn’t even that great, but at least guys are playing at the right depth levels.

  • hq8

    turris between grant and……..condra hahahahahahhahahaha

  • karlssens

    How did Cowen get THAT dangled by that move..

    • hq8

      its cowen, anything is possible.

    • hq8

      on second view, he actually completely moved out of the way hahaha

  • Aaron 2.0

    I know that MacLean is trying to send messages with line juggling, but why is Cowen with Karlsson. It’s kills the only pairing that ever really works…

  • T K

    He kicked it but it was already crossing the line…

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    The line juggling has to stop

    Pathetic effort again

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    Why doesnt maclean ever say anything

    • Mat

      Someone better kick the Gatorade table in the dressing room…

  • bluebuyyoo

    Absolute horseshit!!

    How is that a 5 min major and Seidenberg gets nothing??

    The only consistency in the NHL is the inconsistency of the refereeing.

  • karlssens

    Well guys, at least this all but guarantees a big trade.

    • Jacques

      Bout time!

    • Sensturion

      Basically the way you phrased that, you’re saying there WON’T be a trade…

  • Aaron 2.0

    No elbow involved in that elbow penatly…

  • Mexican Baby Jesus

    Tough call if he left his feet or not…

    • bluebuyyoo

      Not really. When does elbowing have anything to do with leaving your feet?

      • Mexican Baby Jesus

        It doesn’t…my comment had nothing to do with elbow. Would have to see in slower motion… it was definitely close.

    • T K

      Your feet can leave the ground, but no matter how hard you try, without a machete, you can’t leave your feet since they are attached to your legs

  • T K

    Crappy Sens play + crappy officiating = big stinking pile of crap

    • Sensturion

      Just as Brown put it, the officiating didn’t cost the team a win today. The team cost the team a win today.

  • Jacques

    Glad Condra was back today our penalty killing has never been better!

  • Mat

    My condolences to anyone who drove from Orleans to see that garbage. You should have your gas refunded. At the very least.

  • Jacques

    I’d love to see a game between the Sens and bingo! not sure the big league team would win right now!

  • karlssens

    LOL karlsson looked so pissed at Cowen.

    • Conor_smythe

      Karlsson has been weak this game

  • T K

    CBJ moving their feet, hustling for loose pucks, keeping their sticks in the lanes. Bob staying focused. They earned this one

    • bluebuyyoo

      Don’t forget the uninspired play of the Sens. This game was an automatic 2 points for the opposition. Didn’t matter who was playing today.

      • T K

        Sens playing to the level of the opposition lately. They underestimate the weaker teams and only show up against strong teams

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    Officiating is disgusting

    I am in South Western Ontario and forced to watch the Leafs, you will never see a team that hooks, holds, and dives like them, and get away with it constantly. PLUS, they consistently get a power play during the last 5 minutes of games to get the help they need.

    NHL officiating is a joke, and has been for the last 7-8 years. With no consistency and obvious favoritism, the League has a serious problem it needs to address.

    That said, we are losing this game because of lack of effort. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • SENSible

    Think Alfie knew what he was doing getting out of town?

    • hq8

      yea, now i think he knew all along. i think he really knew it in the 2nd round when the penguins were handing it to us. i think he wanted to see what Bryan Murray would do to change things up, along with what they offered him.

      • TookieIs100PercentRight

        I think Alfredsson knew this team overachieved and there would be regression.

  • Mexican Baby Jesus

    Trade by the end of the day?

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    Murray, it is obvious there is something wrong with this team.

    Get on the f-ing phone tomorrow

    • Jacques

      What tomorrow, today!

  • T K

    On a more serious note, what kind of idiot would trust a goat to carry his beer?

  • T K

    Lotta good that does at this point…

  • Mexican Baby Jesus

    Yeah to breaking shutout

  • sensfan4ever

    look out for Tookie trashing our team now …
    see the loser come in like a shark .

  • Mexican Baby Jesus

    Why didn’t we pull the goalie on the power play? SMH

  • Aaron 2.0

    We’re 20 games in (25% of the season). I’m pretty comfortable making a prediction. This team will miss the playoffs barring some sort of shake-up. And, unfortunately Murray is not dealing from a particularly good trading position. A good trade will be difficult.

    • SuckitPhaneuf

      At least we have our 1st round pick

      Wait what?

  • karlssens

    Unless Eugene lets us take on some salary, were in trouble.

    • hq8

      i dont think there is any way melnyk lets BM take on any salary after a combination of Murray and Muckler cost him salary in: Emery, Heatley, Paddock and Hartsburg.

      Murray is finally in a very weak trading position. his last strong chip was Bishop and he dealt him for…….cory conacher.

      i think the only guy the sens can easily trade right now and possibly get anything close to fair value is Anderson. he still has some measure of repute, even though the sens are doing their damned best to bring him down. but trade anderson and the sens goaltending is laid bare as that only leaves lehner as a single line of defense and not much behind him.

  • Mat

    Total lackadaisical play right from puck drop. No sense of urgency from the team as a whole. Certainly not blaming Anderson on this one, our special teams SUCK! One or more of these has to happen:
    1) Major bag skate
    2) Replace assistant coaches – I’m not convinced these guys are getting it done.
    3) Bingo swap + Grant down, Hoffman up
    4) Trade – Package deal – one player that has value with a player that has none (Smith + Michalek or Wiercioch + Greening)
    5) Scooby doo moment – Travel back in time, give Alfie 6 million, and still trade for Bobby Ryan.

    • LeafsSux

      I like #3 a bunch

  • sprucesens

    chirp, any insight to eklunds 2 for 2 rumours in florida? We’ve heard rumblings of these teams talking. Florida fans seem to think kulikov and fleischman. Personally, i’m not seeing any reason to aquire either of those players. Wouldn’t make sense to make a move for the sake of making a move. I’d rather see something that will benefit the team longer term. Like a bjugstadt or gudbranson. Thanks

    • JBL11

      I agree that we shouldn’t make a trade just to shake things up. The Sens desperately need another top 4 Dman that can move the puck. Bringing in Fleischman (or Mathias) won’t fix our issues on D.

    • SensChirp

      Gudbranson was the only name I’ve heard mentioned from Florida. Not sure if that’s the same rumour he is talking about.

      • Jacques

        Gudbranson would be a great pickup.

  • Mexican Baby Jesus

    At least we will have a good second round pick in the draft

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    Can we end this experiment.

    Spezza is our number one centre-he should be playing with Ryan.

    Turris is our number two centre-and should be playing with Michalek

    Then leave the lines and let them build chemistry for once instead of all this line juggling shit

    • Jacques

      Spezza has been lousy , what have you been watching?

      • SensChirp

        Game against Boston was one of the best games he has played in years. Should break up that Turris line to give Spezza some wingers though.

        • Jacques

          Sorry he’s had 4-5 good games all year well worth his 7 million! Listen If he brought it every game I would be his greatest fan. Damn his name is on my jersey but he doesn’t for some reason live up to the talent he was given. would you resign him going forward for6-7-8 years???

          • SuckitPhaneuf

            Spezza has been playing with a revolving door of players and still putting up points. He is our number one centre and should be given a fair chance to play with Ryan.

            Michalek Turris and MacArthur would be a strong second line

            If we misuse Spezza for long, he will follow Alfie out the door, and that would be a BIG mistake

          • Jacques

            This isn’t the old Spezza, this Spezza isn’t right, he has something going on(injury he’s fighting). The guy is a liability in his own zone, he gets rid of the puck on the Powerplay constantly…..he’s our Captain, he should play a more disciplined game but he’s off. This team is nowhere nearly as interesting as last years team. Plus, we have taken our boner for guys like smith, greening and Condra to unheard of levels clogging up spots for better players in bingo. Who evaluates the talent?????

          • Jacques

            I agree but I think Murray , Melnyk! and MaCLean wouldn’t be upset if Spezza came asking for a trade. Might be what they have intended to do here!

          • SensChirp

            It’s just so annoying that any time things go wrong, the default is to rag on Spezza. When things go well, the fan base is silent and waits for the next time he doesn’t dominate.

            He can be better. But he’s not the only one on this team that is struggling and he sure as hell wasn’t the problem today.

          • hq8

            also, dont know how you pin todays game on spezza when the sens early season bad habit of too many penalties bit them.

    • Trade Spezza

      Spezza has NEVER won anything in his hockey career

      Trade Spezza – the 5 other players in the league capable of playing with him will never be traded by their teams.

      • SensChirp

        Can we trade you?

        • 65kwhissell19

          lol.

    • Millennium

      Or we could let Ryan and Turris continue their career seasons together…

      Honestly, get past labeling everyone in a hierarchy and look at the play. Turris and Ryan had instant chemistry. They are hands down our best centre and our best winger this season. They belong together until any of that changes.

  • Kielbasa

    Another great effort today Sens. Keep that hard work moving forward into the next game.

    *rolling my eyes*

  • Phoenix

    With 20 points Ottawa is still hanging around a playoff spot but if this continues for another couple of weeks it could be lights out. So hopefully Murray makes a trade to bring in a top 6 and a Dman that can help. If not then I want that first back from ANA.

  • 65kwhissell19

    crazy to think that spezza has no one im sure if they keep zibby with him and trade for another winger, get a top player for spezza some one capable of playing with a spezza like player. not sure what we would have to give up. but don’t really think hemsky would be that fit for spezza.. but im tired of them not doing nothing to get him help. maybe a yakobov would be good he is a pure goal scorer. the return would be a lot for the oilers but Ottawa does have the pieces

  • Millennium

    So here’s a more constructive question to ponder: If Murray really is going to make a move to get another top 6 winger, who is legitimately available right now? Odds are you are either looking for someone who is struggling in their current organization, someone who is on the tail end of a contract, someone from a team going into rebuild etc. Who is the best option out there? Assuming we even have the pieces required to make a trade that isn’t a net loss for the team.

  • NickofTime

    I don’t get why BM doesn’t look to Bingo for help with guys like Hoffman, Stone & Robinson all playing well. What BM needs to do is get rid of the baggage in Conacher, Condra, & Corvo for starters, then Michalek & Phillips if it still isn’t working for Stewart in ST Louis..
    Would Edmonton take Condra, Conacher & Corvo for Hemsky? Likely not, neither would Florida for Fleischmann or Phoenix for Vrbada. Problem is the guys they should get rid of have no value. So if they are going to make a deal it would have to be for one of Michalek, Anderson, Phillips or Spezza & that would weaken the team not make it stronger. BM has to find a way to add a Stewart or Simmons or someone of that ilk to help this team get tougher, too many nice guys on this roster.

    • Mat

      Getting rid of Michalek would do nothing but enhance this team. The guy is a useless turd.

      And with regards to Bingo, we are operating at full capacity in Ottawa right now. We can bring players up if we can send players down. Most guys are on 1-way contracts, meaning they would have to be waived. Who would you waive? Gryba? Greening? Kassian? I’m all for sending down Grant and bringing up Hoffman though. I would consider Andre Petersson before Robinson.

      • NickofTime

        Couldn’t disagree more with you, Petersson is just another small, soft forward who has done nothing at the NHL level. He has been tried before as has SDC & Pageau & Locke & Conacher & none of them have worked out & we should get rid of them. What this team needs is more size & speed & Robinson brings just that. The sooner Phillips & Corvo retire the better for this team too. Stone, Robinson & Ceci will help this team much more than those four who are doing absolutely nothing since the start of the season.

  • 65kwhissell19

    the biggest piece eather way would be mm9. he would excel anywere he would go. there be no big damands . it be a new start witch it what I think he needs. and he is still a top 6 fwd. and good on his def game witch oilers are lacking. could be mm9+2rd+conacher+a def anythoughts. I no yak is a first rounder 1st overall. but everone can see its just a matter of time.

  • aegiszx

    There are a lot of factors that need to be taken into consideration for any team to pull the trigger with us… Not as easy as it sounds. Right now, just as was the case in the summer, we have A LOT of forwards that will NOT make the big club. We should allow those guys to have a shot somewhere like we did Bishop… Pageau, Stone, Puempel, Da Costa, Hoffman… Don’t get me wrong, those guys arent “busts” but rather bait. They are all good players, they just arent good in our system.

    • hq8

      lol, are you serious? those guys should be held on to right now based on the debacle on the main club.

      • aegiszx

        None of those guys will make a difference in our line-up.

        • 65kwhissell19

          puempel, Hoffman would 100%… puempel is a former 1st rounder. and can put the puck in the net

    • 65kwhissell19

      most likely one of the would go in a package. not pageau,stone,puempel,hoffman,ceci or buddy robberson I don’t think murry would make any to stupit moves

    • aegiszx

      Michalek has 0 trade value, we’d be lucky to get a 3rd or 4th from some suck lol

      • 65kwhissell19

        lol are you serious.. he got trade value..u u think he doesn’t ur mistaking

        • 65kwhissell19

          he had 12 points 3 g 9a 20 games not his greatest but still not the worst

          • Mat

            It totally IS the worse! For 2 reasons: The guy is one of the highest paid on the team (3rd in forwards) and he plays with one of the best playmakers in the league and his point totals are nowhere close to acceptable. He has that many points because he’s given lots of “un-earned” minutes. He skates past the puck all the time and barely battles anymore (probably managing his knee for his next contract). Personally, he’s too expansive for a 3rd liner, which is where he belongs.

          • 65kwhissell19

            lol its were there putting him…………………..he has 0 cofedence at the moment. when he gets it back he will be on fire like every other player in this hockey league

          • Mat

            Yeah, I think he’s been given enough opportunities to re-gain said confidence. It’s over for him. Been over for over a year. If its not inconsistency, its injuries. Sometimes, you just have to cut your losses.. I would rather give his spot to one of our young prospects in Bingo.

          • 65kwhissell19

            oh agreed. I never thought he fited well with a sens jersey. just saying he can score. but his time in Ottawa is done and his 7 mil contract will be well spent next year

          • 65kwhissell19

            sry 6 mill

          • Mat

            Ha! No biggie. Its still 4-4.5 million too much… : )

          • 65kwhissell19

            lol ya. I think its 4,33 mill but a total of 6 mil total. so I guess cap wise 4.3 we can spend next season

          • Mat

            I think the Melnyk self imposed budget is on salary, not cap. So I figure there’s 6 mil that’s freeing up with his departure.

          • 65kwhissell19

            cap hit of 4.33 mil not sure how cheap melnyk is

          • Mat

            It certainly will. But if we can trade him away for something (anything), why not? I think we needed to consider that option 2 summers ago..

          • 65kwhissell19

            even if its a 2rd pick at the deadline witch teams I think would pay id would like a prospect lol

          • aegiszx

            Can you imagine how much we could have gotten for him after his 35g season…

          • Mat

            A solid player that was available when 9mm still had value was Evander Kane, who was holding out for his contract and being criticized for being too “immature”. Similar to the Turris pre-trade situation and look how well the Seguin trade is working out for Boston right now. But that only works if the players have value. We ain’t going to fool anyone with Michalek. Wait, is Sather still in NY?

          • aegiszx

            Exactly. Really depends on the player and the system. Turris excels in an offensive role as opposed to one thats all D.

            I would entertain a trade with Sather… and hoping it starts with Del Zotto… Snow might be open as well, I know they have Rienhart still in the minors for whatever reason.

          • Jacques

            Del zotto sucks! he’s about as good as Corvo.

        • aegiszx

          Why, what do you think he’s worth as of tonight’s game? Last year 14 pts in 23 games, this year 12 pts in 20 games.

  • 65kwhissell19

    for the fact and I no oilers are not the best team. but there aot off people saying mm9 has no trade value. but why would hemsky have way more look at there stats
    mm9 games 20 g3 a9 points 12 minus 5
    hemsky games 22 g4 a7 points 11 minus 12

    • aegiszx

      Our problem, and theirs, is on D… I dont think it makes sense whatsoever to swap forwards cuz neither teams problems are solved…

      • 65kwhissell19

        unless there looking for a player for a dman. witch would make 0 sence cuz we need what we have lol

    • aegiszx

      If you look around the divisions, most teams are competing hard right now… Points gaps are closing unlike the first month where there were clear leaders, and teams are hitting their strides now except us. We gotta wait and see how this month plays out. I guess thats why everyones looking to the Oilers, since they seem to be the only team not gaining much traction…

      • 65kwhissell19

        agreed

  • ProudSens

    Serenity now!

  • 65kwhissell19

    n last 5 season for both
    hemsky 23g
    7g
    14g
    10g
    9g
    63 goals last 5 years/points 186 points -21
    mm9 23
    22
    18
    35
    3
    101 goals last 5 years/ points 196 points -1

    • sprucesens

      good point about him having the same value as hemsky. Problem is, oilers have never traded hemsky because no one ever offered them anything worth taking. So its doesn’t mean he has good value. I hope he does though…

      • 65kwhissell19

        yup that’s the problem

    • Zorav

      uhh…none if this is valid till you don’t post how many games each of them has played last 5 years.

      • sprucesens

        hemsky has been injured about the same as michalek

      • 65kwhissell19

        hemsky 248 games……..mm9 309 games witch still says that mm9 is the healthier player I guess by 61 games not even a full season plus mm9 played 14 games last year well forced him self to play 14. still the point. still its not like hemsky was gonna score anoth 40 goals to keep up to mm9 in goals in 61 less games. just saying

  • Sandy

    Now I can’t comment on the game because I didn’t really see it.
    I did hear Brown/Potvin say the Boro took a penalty on a clean hit earlier in the game? I did see the replay of the Boro hit that got him the match penalty.
    The Jackets player was reaching and bending down when Boro went to hit him… so that had better not get him a suspension. It all depends on Shanahan.. and I never rely on him to do the right thing.
    So were they that bad? Did Andy let in any weak goals?
    How can a team be so good one game against an elite team and not win against a struggling team a couple of days later? They are so frustrating..

    They could have been tied with Mtl again….

    • aegiszx

      Well, it didn’t help that the Jackets scored 3 PPG, and we converted 0 (what a surprise)… So while I dont want to make excuses, our PK needed to be better when it mattered… but also we shouldnt even be shorthanded that often… If the score was 2-1, I think it would have lessened the pain…

      • 65kwhissell19

        im sorry but I think 22 saves 4 goals against for Anderson Is not the greatest. 26 shots. he just not making them big saves/flucky ones like he usauly does.. think they need to put lehner in play the best goalie possible right now with its lenher at the moment. love andy but think he need to sit and just watch a couple un injured

        • Mat

          3 of 4 goals were shots from the point on the PK with tons of bodies in front. The guy couldn’t see anything. Not bad goals by any means. I’m the first to crap on Anderson for his usual bad starts (gives up a goal in the first 5 shots every game), but today, he wasn’t the problem..

          • 65kwhissell19

            not the point its not just this game

  • 65kwhissell19

    with corvo,mm9,phillips,kassian, all ufa next season. that’s 8,891,666 worth of cap space. and we have to sign lehner witch wont be a 2 way contract or 800,000 a year. conacer,grant, and gryba are all rfa. witch im sure conacher, gryba or grant are not gonna 2 way deals lets say we sign all of them for a total of 3.5 mil. including lehner plus Phillips if Ottawa still wants him. put not at 3.5 mil. more off 2 mil may maybe that’s 5.5 mill that leaves 3.3 mil. an if ya no are owner don’t want to spent does leave much cash for a top 6 fwd. any thoughts

  • sprucesens

    hemsky and klefbom for cowen and smith?

    just throwing out ideas that could help both teams maybe. i dunno. i just wonder if Murray is upset at the lack of negotations with cowen over the summer, and has been upset with the product ever since? Prefer getting some players from florida, unless we try to pry a top player from edmonton, not named yakupov.

    I personally hope we hang onto cowen and he turns out great, but its been a rough ride so far…

    • 65kwhissell19

      deadend deal.. hemskys days are over. cowen has to much up side. the only thing they can do with cowen is ride the wave. its a learning curb for him. they will be way to stupit to trade cowen for anyone. when he fines his game witch he will he will be a monster

  • T K

    I haven’t had the nerve to look at the standings for about a week…

    Jekyll & Hyde.

  • 65kwhissell19

    that eklund dude anything true about what he says?

    • T K

      rarely

    • Millennium

      He tends to only be accurate when it comes to Philly. Everything else is “Its Eklund, so take it for what its worth…”

      • 65kwhissell19

        lol ok good to no

        • Millennium

          Someone in the comments on HB had an interesting idea though:

          Wiercioch
          Greening
          Michalek

          for
          Fleischmann
          Kulikov

          That deal sounds entirely plausible, at least for Ottawa.

  • WaitingSince92

    Ales Hemsky? Please, for the love of all that’s holy, no.

    A 30 year old softy whose production has already started a steep decline is definitely not what this team needs. To think he’s going to be what Spezza needs is just hopelessly optimistic.

    • 65kwhissell19

      that’s what we been preaching don’t make sence why Ottawa and oilers would chat about cant be him

  • SensChirp