Game Day-Senators Host Best From the West

SensChirp October 27, 2013 160
Game Day-Senators Host Best From the West

The Ottawa Senators continue a gruelling stretch this evening when they play host to the best team in the Western Conference, the San Jose Sharks.

The Sharks are 9-1-1 through their first eleven games, including a 3-2 win over the Senators back on October 12 in San Jose.  The Sharks have a league best +25 goal differential and have been chewing teams up in the early part of this season.  They are coming off a 2-0 win last night in Montreal.

With a team as good as the Sharks, who were my preseason pick to make the Finals from the West by the way, there really is never a “good” time to play them but this might be as ideal as it gets for the Sens.  Not only are the Sharks playing the second game of a back to back, with less than 24 hours between start times, but there are also featuring a goalie making his first start in the NHL.  Alex Stalock is expected to get the nod for San Jose in what will be his first action of the season.

On the surface that seems like a good thing for the Sens but as Frederik Andersen showed us on Friday night, a goalie making his first start isn’t necessarily a good thing.

The Senators will make at least  one change to their line up as Patrick Wiercioch is expected to draw back in on defence.  He’ll take the place of Eric Gryba who followed up a solid performance in Detroit with his worst outing of the season against the Ducks.

(UPDATE 2:54 PM)- Without a morning skate, it’s not entirely clear how the Senators will line up. However it does sound as though Pageau will draw into the lineup while Clarke MacArthur misses this game due to injury. Here is how the Sens are expected to line up.

Michalek-Spezza-Zibanejad
Conacher-Turris-Ryan
Greening-Smith-Neil
Grant-Pageau-Condra

Methot-Karlsson
Cowen-Wiercioch
Phillips-Corvo

Craig Anderson will get the start in the Ottawa goal.  Puck drop is scheduled for just after 5:00 PM and there are still some good tickets up for grabs.  Not a bad way to spend a Sunday evening if you ask me.

  • Jacques

    Good, I hope JGP draws in for Condra. I would then love that line.

    • WaitingSince92

      Don’t really understand why you’d ever take Conndra out of our lineup. He’s as solid/dependable as they come. He’s our best forward on the PK and has been our best defensive forward in general since Kelly was traded.

      Is it because he’s not offensive? Because he not exciting? Because he’s the kinda player that might hit the post on an open net?

      He does all the little things that keep pucks out of our net every game night.

      Maybe I just have a soft spot for the defensive specialist.

  • SensChirp

    If Pageau is coming in, I think I would prefer to see him take the place of Grant.

    • Jacques

      C’mon time to go with a bigger lineup, we aren’t playing baseball enough with the No-hitters(Condra).

  • TheTruth

    Don’t matter who is in the line-up if our D plays flat footed like they have pretty much all season, this game is already over..if I were BMurray I would be looking hard for a top 4D with mobility and experience.

    • SensChirp

      Another Top 4, preferably right hand shot, would be exactly what this line up needs. A little easier said than done, unfortunately. Finding defenceman like that is difficult at the best of times but with this team’s internal budget, it’s damn near impossible.

      • TheTruth

        Definately agree Chirp. I hate internal budgets :( Sens IMO are 1 or 2 pieces away from being an elite team. We are expecting guys like Cowen and Wiercioch to mature overnight. I think the jury is still out on if these guys are top 4 dmen (consistency is needed).

        • WaitingSince92

          I’d say the jury’s out on Wiercioch, but not Cowen. Wiercioch has a great first pass and some good offensive instincts, but like you say, needs consistency. He’s been in our system a long time, but he’s still only 23, which is pretty young for a dman.

          Cowen looks to be improving his consistency to be a really tough, punishing body to play against. Knows where to pick his spots offensively, which is a sign of his growing maturity.

          Don’t think the organization has any doubts as to whether Cowen will ever be a solid top 4 D. With Wiercioch, they seem a little more hopeful and less assured.

        • Aaron 2.0

          I completely agree wit you. I love both of these guys. But, I think we are expecting way too much from these guys. Cowen has only played 117 games and Weircioch is at 59. Expecting consistent top 4 performances at this point in their careers is probably not fair to the players or particularly realistic. And, I agree that we don’t really know the ceiling for either player yet. I love their potential, but agree that this team is short 1 reliable top 4 D.

        • Sandy

          How long does it take a young d-man to mature? 4 yrs… each have played about 1 NHL season. It’s going to take longer than that…

      • Sandy

        Melnyk would not pay the salary of a top 4 D in a trade. Remember… the Sens are over the budget.. and he has tightened the strings.

        He expects to win with a tight budget… won’t happen.

  • Sensturion

    I hate to say it because I normally don’t mind him, but I hope Condra is out for Pageau. I feel Condra has lacked a lot of foot speed and I don’t feel like he’s been as good as he can be defensively. He needs a game or two to watch from the press box.

    • WaitingSince92

      I didn’t watch the last game… did he do something to draw peoples’ ire? Has he really been that bad? I watched the first the first 8 games and he seemed good.

      • Sandy

        Condra doesn’t score goals.. So a lot of people want him out of the lineup.

        They overlook his good defensive game and his puck possession skills…
        In their minds, if you can’t score you are worthless.

  • Aaron 2.0

    I like our chances today. SJ is also dealing with some injuries. It looks like they could be without Burns and Boyle on D and Havlat. Also, as chirp mentioned, we won’t face Niemi. And, it’s a back-to-back for that team. I think if we can win 1 of the next 2 games, looking ahead to November, we’ll be able to build nicely off a 0.500 start from a miserable schedule in October. Off course, i’m putting the cart before the horse a little bit. SJ and CHI will both be tough games…

  • SensChirp

    Cool offer here for the Armchair GMs among us!

    http://senschirp.ca/contests/exciting-offer-websim-hockey/

  • Andersonfan40

    Just wondering what does Mclean need to do get this team to play better and have more energy?
    Also does Murray need to add somthing to this team?
    Personally I would like to see Murray add someone with some more size to to the top
    six forward group.

  • Sandy

    What’s the big deal about a rookie goaltender in his first NHL game? Did that not happen on Friday? How did that work out?
    The Sens can play great hockey. They have shown us that in the Detroit game. But (though they won’t admit it publicly) they wanted to prove something to Alfie.. and they played that game with great emotion and intensity.

    That emotion and intensity has been missing from every game except that one..

    The Sens have to get back to that style of game and show the fans they can win against good teams…
    They have only 1 win against good teams so far this season.. IF they can’t win against the good teams then they will be on the outside looking in come playoff time. They can’t win a Cup in October but they can play themselves to the bottom of the standings if they can’t win games or get points.

    • Aaron 2.0

      In fairness, I don’t think Detroit is nearly as good as Anaheim. Detroit’s goals for / against is actually worse than ours at this point (granted one or two bad games can exaggerate that stat). And, the playoffs are still attainable for the Sens. There is actually only 6 teams in the East with a record over 0.500 right now. This team isn’t a cup contender. And, I think that’s the crux of the problem. Sens fans thought they were, despite the obvious deficiencies in the lineup, particularly on D. But, if they weather this first month, and come out of it with a reasonable record, there is no reason they can’t be a playoff team.

  • PraiseAlfie11

    Anyone know how much parking lot 4 costs? Website says “premium paid parking”, but no price?

  • xN1Cx

    Bruce’s last tweet…. no MacArthur?

    • SensChirp

      Ya looks like he’s out and Pageau is in. New line combinations listed above.

  • Dr.Hockey

    Anyone have a line on a stream for an East coast fan?

  • Mike

    Does anyone know if there will be a live stream for the game tonight?

  • Millennium

    Cool that Pageau is back in, but damn neither of those bottom two lines are gonna help make him look good. I would prefer to see him with Greening and Neil though.

  • Millennium

    For people looking for streams:

    I suggest you mosey on over to http://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/
    and look for the gameday thread for the Ottawa game. There are links to free streams. Also, if you’re interested in a more longterm, better quality solution, search the subreddit for the VLC stream tutorial, and you’ll be able to access Gamecentre streams straight through VLC player on your desktop, HD and everything. That may not work forever, but it does for now because VLC can read the stream encoding.

  • Millennium

    Nicolas St-Pierre ‏@nic_st_pierre27m
    Trios Sens: 14-19-9, 89-7-6, 15-93-25, 57-44-22, 3-65, 2-46, 4-77

    So Zibby is back to 3C and Greening is on the first line?

  • WaitingSince92

    Not sure if I’d call that how they’re “expected to” lineup (ie Garrioch does say it’s “just a guess”), but it would be cool to see how Zibanejad does on the top line RW

  • Robert Cyr

    So Chirp,

    Which lineup do you think will be the correct lineup ??

    Snoopy Senior

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Mac’s off his rocker. Zibanejad between Neil and Smith………

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    ………………………………………………………………………………………………

  • Colin

    The ice at CTC sure seems to absolute shit this year. Don’t see the puck bounce around like that at any other rinks.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Cowen let his guy go there. Corvo didn’t look great there either…

    • Jacques

      Corvo sucks!

  • MethotToMyMadness

    Anyone with Rogers Cable can watch the game, it’s on station 657, tva sports HD in French. You can get the regular none HD on station 656. HD is better.
    Already 1-0 for SJ. Damn!!

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Mika’s already been our best player on the ice. When he’s on, the Sharks have no possession.

    And for goodness sake get Andy out there

  • Aaron 2.0

    2 Goals on 6 shots. Defensive coverage has been terrible…

  • Colin

    Fuck! “That’s his first of the year”. Tired of hearing that. Need your first of the year? Rookie needs his first of his career? Rookie goalie needs his first win? Come on down to CTC. The Senators will oblige.

    • karlsson65

      And another guy with his first of the year. JFC

    • WaitingSince92

      Don’t forget, we have specials on breaking losing streaks, setting new winning streak records and getting your benchmark goal (100, 200 or even 500 currently available)!

  • MethotToMyMadness

    Sens are applying good pressure. But that’s 2 goals they’ve allowed on the reverse end of pressure, it’s deflating and we may see a goalie change if this happens again.

  • Aaron 2.0

    They need the next, or this game could be out of reach fast. SJ goaltender has looked shaky. Lots of rubber to the net.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Karlsson looks like he’s getting tired of losing .He looked great there.

    • Zorav

      I sure hope so. We as fans have definitely started to reach our limits when it comes to watching sloppy hockey.

  • markuki111

    That sharks goalie sucks. We will win this game

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Mika Zibanejad is winning faceoffs, puck battles, cycling the puck, creating turnovers in the offensive zone……….

    • Jacques

      Too bad he’s playing with plugs!

  • Zorav

    It just needs to be a simple pass, or just a shot againt the glass to get the puck out. That right there with Phillips trying to be too fancy was the reason why we give pucks over ( as he did) which led to the puck possession by the sharks . This has happened way too many times over these opening games and honestly , that’s all they need to fix to be a formidable competitive team. And that’s when the fans will start pouring in.

  • MethotToMyMadness

    EK got himself a great goal today, loved the play. Then he turns over a complete stinker and causes a goal. He did it against the Ducks and it was the game winner. If we lose 3-2 tonight, it could be two very costly mistakes.

    • Aaron 2.0

      His defensive partner has to realize he is in trouble though. Turris watched Courture sitting at the blue-line far too long before he started moving to him. That’s the trouble with playing a forward on the point…

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Sens outplay the Sharks thru 20 minutes and are down 3-1………. They are literally GIVING the game away to them. Gift goals.

  • Zorav

    it’s so repetitive in terms of how the opposition’s scoring…we just keep on making high risk plays and giving them gift goals.

  • Millennium

    Sens play well for most of the period, but they seem to just turn their brains off every so often and give up these terrible goals. If they could stay focussed and responsilble, this game could be much closer.

    • Aaron 2.0

      This is a big problem. There seems to be very little attention to detail.

  • karlssens

    Sens are attacking well but boy does our defense look bad…

  • karlssens

    I don’t know about you guys, but I feel safer with Lehner in net

  • Jacques

    Methot!

  • Conor_smythe

    Spezza so strong

  • Jacques

    Corvo is brutal , in his own end.

  • MikeS

    First game sharks are being out-shot after 2 periods I believe

  • Aaron 2.0

    I wish we weren’t behind going into the third. But, we’ve played a pretty good game overall. I still don’t trust that SJ goaltender. We need to keep putting lots of pucks on net.

  • MikeS

    really…..they came out real flat this period…

  • Aaron 2.0

    Brutal sequence of plays on that goal….

  • Jacques

    Condra weak on the puck all over the ice. Hope the Condra lovers are really watching the game tonight!

    • aegiszx

      Not like Andy has been any better. The first goal was pretty damn soft.

    • WaitingSince92

      Condra-”lover” here, I guess. You’re completely right, but I would point out that it’s very uncharacteristic for Condra. He was really bad tonight though, DAMN!

  • MikeS

    Why do we have grant on with spezza….

  • MikeS

    ugg….

  • http://bftc-ehm.forumotion.com/ argun31

    It’s becoming evident! we need one more top 6 player and a very good top 4 dmen! we need to see something Mr. Murray! please!

  • MikeS

    second straight loss vs a goalie playing his first game. This is pathetic

  • Millennium

    Has Cowen had a single good game this season? He has been hands down the most consistently bad player on the team

    • aegiszx

      Everyone outside the top 4 (Karl/Spezza/Ryan/Turris) has been awful. Conacher has what, 2 pts… Andy looks human… Phillips has looked slow… Michalek also isn’t even a PPG (yet some how still on the top lines)…

      • Millennium

        Conacher has been ‘ok’ this season. Some decent games, seems to skate hard most of the time. MM is completely invisible, and Cowen is just downright bad.

    • Aaron 2.0

      I would agree that Cowen’s been consistently bad. That’s why I was so surprised when the coach sat Weircioch.

  • aegiszx

    Pmac should really consider sitting Andy for a few games. Give Lehner the start versus the defending champs, he seems to thrive on big pressure games.

  • Senut

    Lehner anyone ?
    what a pathetic effort by everyone

    hedpucker

  • MikeS

    Honestly they were playing decent before the third….but this period has been pathetic

  • Aaron 2.0

    This game wasn’t / isn’t as bad as the score. SJ has scored on pretty much every decent chance. And, we have given them pretty much every decent chance they’ve had.

    • MikeS

      The problem is every game the sens have been consistently having these breakdowns

      • Aaron 2.0

        Absolutely agree.

  • Aaron 2.0

    They’re imploding now though …

  • Colin

    Holt crap! That has to be the 4th back door open net play that the Senators have set up and then fucked up.

  • Mike

    Is this team ever going to improve or will they remain this consistently terrible all season? I mean will this team ever string together some wins because right now, I highly doubt it poor defense lack of offence from the whole team except Turris/Spezza/Karlsson/Ryan and Zibanejad and inconsistent goaltending

  • Mike

    I think they need to make a trade to shake up the team and really give them a kick in butt to get them going like the Comrie trade for example during the 2006-2007 season after they made that trade their play improved and they were able to get themselves out of the hole they dug themselves into

    • MikeS

      That trade didnt turn them around, the mass injuries woke them up, then they returned to full health on fire

      • Mike

        Well, I wouldn’t say that it didn’t partially he played really well when he was traded to Ottawa and his play helped to turn them around because he provided solid secondary scoring which the Sens currently need

        • MikeS

          I dont argue the sens need secondary scoring, just that with that team, the trade didnt make all the difference

  • Mike

    Not saying this is Craig Anderson’s fault but Lehner has played far better imo

  • Mike

    Is there any way we can trade Phillips and at least get someone who can still skate? He looks slower than Gonchar or Carkner out their

    • Aaron 2.0

      He’s probably # 3 on our depth chart right now though…

      • Conor_smythe

        …thats the problem

        • Aaron 2.0

          Yeah, I actually feel really bad for him. He’s clearly working hard our there.

  • Mike

    Out there sorry stupid typo

  • Mike

    This type of start to the season really concerns me we were not even this bad to start the 2006-2007 season this does not look good right now where does the blame lie with the players or the coaches at this point?

  • Sensturion

    To those of you who scolded me for saying that Condra deserved a few games in the press box… EXHIBIT A! Condra cost us that game with that idiotic attempt to deke along the boards. When in doubt, dump it out! Other than that, Anderson was left out to dry tonight and our bottom six is absolutely horrid! If you look around the league, every team’s bottom six is filled with role-players that can pot a few in. Ottawa lacks that. We try and put skilled guys (Zibanejad, Pageau, Stone, etc.) with players that can’t make a play if their lives depended on it (Kassian, Neil, Smith, CONDRA). Not too mention that few, if any, of those guys have a useful skill set unless said skill set is attempting to punch a guy’s face in.
    Ottawa doesn’t need a Top 6 player. We need a whole new bottom 6.

    • Aaron 2.0

      Condra will definitely be a candidate for healthy scratch next game after that performance. He is struggling this year.

    • Sensturion

      Also, I’m just about ready to trade Greening for a bag of pucks. At least that’ll be useful to the team.

    • Mike

      It is not just Condra it’s a lack of work ethic shown by 2/3 of this Senators team right now if this continues something has got to give either all or a few of the Coaches needs to be fired or a trade needs to be made this team needs a kick in the butt

    • Conor_smythe

      Its hilarious that you can claim “condra cost us that game”

      we lost 5-2

      a lot of things cost us that game

      And this is coming from a guy who REALLY doesn’t like condra

      • Sensturion

        When Condra made that play it was 3-2. Ottawa was still in it. San Jose scores and all of a sudden, the team lost all of its momentum and played like ass.

        • Conor_smythe

          exactly, it was 3-2

          a lot of things cost us that game

  • Aaron 2.0

    I think we’ll see shake-up next game for sure. Lehner should start next game. The problem with that is he’s had all tough opponents, the team loses, and we don’t get to see him for way too long. With our next game against Chicago, i’m afraid this will happen again. He probably deserves a string of games.

    The good. Karlsson looks good. He’s trying to do too much at times. But, really, he’s not getting much help out there. Zibanejad looks great too, I think. Smith is playing pretty good hockey. And, of course Turris has been our best player.

    The bad. Spezza’s line gets outplayed most nights. I’m still not too critical with him coming back from injury, but at some point, that has to stop. I still think Ryan is over-hyped. Not a popular opinion here, I know. He can snipe goals, but, he’s not bringing much else to the party. And, past our 2 top defenders, we really don’s have any reliable options. I feel bad for Phillips. He should be a 5/6 pairing. But, he’s being forced to handle more than he can.

    • MikeS

      Spezza had 8 pts in 3 games, then 0 pts in 3 games…..

      • Aaron 2.0

        If someone could dig up scoring chances for and against with Spezza on the ice, I don’t think they would be in his lines’ favour up to this point in the season.

      • Senators Pundit

        More Milan’s fault than Spez’s – JS is a pass first player and his left winger misses every opportunity he’s given.

    • Conor_smythe

      Spezza’s line being outplayed has nothing to do with Spezza

      • Aaron 2.0

        Entirely possible. Not a lot of great options up there right now.

      • Jacques

        Last two games have been disappointing for Spezza. Esp when he’s on the pp, makes bad decisions.

    • Tooks

      Karlsson? He’s been pretty bad the last 2 games, constant giveaways and terrible decision making. Atleast 3 goals were his fault, not following his man.

  • Guest

    it’s just…. really …really…disheartening..to watch them play. You know they’re all capable…but sometimes choose to float, not skate or just not handle the puck responsibly.You are given opportunity to make multi-million dollars a year, to do what you love to do…what more could you ask for. I know the guys on TSN1200 were talking about how quiet or empty the building gets… well guys, it’s pretty evident.

  • Zorav

    it’s just…. really …really…disheartening..to watch them play. You know they’re all capable…but sometimes choose to float, not skate or just not handle the puck responsibly.You are given opportunity to make multi-million dollars a year, to do what you love to do…what more could you ask for. I know the guys on TSN1200 were talking about how quiet or empty the building gets… well guys, it’s pretty evident…

    • Tooks

      You get used to the quiteness…also over 1500 tickets left…vs the best team in the League….boggles the mind…

      What the hell do people want?

  • Floridasensfan

    Well that sucked, Sharks on a back to back and a loss.
    Disappointing, Chicago up next.

  • Sensturion

    If you watch San Jose, they always have a defenseman in front of their net ready to clear the puck. Our defensemen? They decide to both head to the same side and leave the net wide open. No wonder Anderson is getting scored on constantly.

  • Mike

    I hate to say it but right now this team looks like the blue jays a good team that fails to take advantage of opportunities and it is concerning if this continues they realistically will struggle to get themselves out of the hole they are currently digging.

  • zhaomayne

    pmac try this line up next game

    Conacher-Spezza-Ryan
    Michalek-Turris-Zibanejad/Pageau
    MacArthur-Pageau/Zibanejad-Robinson
    Greening-Smith-NeilCondra has been absolutely shitting the bed

    • Jacques

      I agree but instead we signed Greening,Smith, and Condra to deals lovely there Bryan! All 3 suck.

  • MikeS

    I think we all need to calm down, sure the sens are playing poorly but they have also been playing mostly against really good teams. Im still confident this team can make the playoffs

    • Mike

      I agree there is time to improve look at the 06-07 season. However if they can’t beat the good teams how can they improve? I mean look at the division Tampa, Toronto , Detroit and Boston. Granted they beat Detroit 6-1 however they never do well against either of those three teams.

  • Mike

    If this team does not improve what do they have they will get nothing for it because the first round pick was traded so if they do struggle all year they wont even get a good prospect that would be a great trade piece to try and get a top 2 defence man

    • SensChirp

      Strong bewildering words.

    • PraiseAlfie11

      Methot is a very capable dman. Who would you propose take his place?

      PS: 2nd round still means top 50 players in the world. Ryan is worth it so far. Can’t say for sure, because, after all, we are only 11 games in, right?

  • laffin681021

    I’ve often stood up for this team in the beginning of this season saying to just give them time to get things together but I’m starting to come to a breaking point. When are they going to play the way they are capable of playing? I realize they’ve had a tough schedule out of the get go but let’s get it together here.

    • Sensnation

      They will get there within the next 10 games or so. Don’t lose faith, this team has a lot of great pieces, still just working on that chemistry and timing!

      • laffin681021

        I hope you’re right

  • karlssens

    It’s sad because if this team
    Could spend even close to the cap we would have another top 6 player and a top 4 D. But instead, we’re left with this..

    • PraiseAlfie11

      3000*$50*41=$6 million. Uncle Eugene isn’t a fool. If he can make $6M by bringing in a $5M player, he’ll do that everytime.

      Note:$50 average tix, but add parking and concessions and its probably more like $75 per person.

  • Robert Cyr

    We started this season with a tough 6 game road trip, played the Ducks and the Sharks
    a total of 4 games( lost all 4 ), and had a total of 5 losses in regulation and 2 SO losses.

    Let’s hope and pray, that the team can get back on track, first off by defeating the Hawks on Tuesday night in Chicago, by playing a solid game like the Detroit game, where they totally dominated.

    Will most likely start Robin Lehner in that next game, and get our 2 top lines playing like they can.

    GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Snoopy Senior

    • Aaron 2.0

      The game now takes on a littler more meaning for early in this season. A win and we get out of the month at .500. A loss, and I think the questions will really start to pile up. It might be unfair given that the next game is the Stanley cup champions. But, that’s sort of the position the team has put themselves in.

  • Sensturion

    Vanek traded to Islanders for Moulson and other players/picks. Not sure who/what.

    • Sensnation

      2014 1st, and 2015 2nd rnd

      • MikeS

        Gah……I had moulson in my pool :’(

  • 57gord

    Well that game sucked too. What is it ? Bad karma from the Alfie “thing” ?
    Three thousand empty seats ?! That’s not going to help the club’s bottom line.

    • karlssens

      If Melnyk spent to ice a competitive team many positives come from that:

      More star power attracks more attendance

      Better on ice product

      More attractive style of play

      Longer playoff run etc..

      There are no long term benefits of running this team on a budget. Reference: islanders

      • MikeS

        You cannot complain about the star power on this team.

  • Kielbasa

    Something major needs to happen with this team. On paper they look like a strong competitive team. In reality this team is nowhere near competitive enough to push for a playoff position.

    So far they have shown up to play only once. Against Detroit. That is pathetic at best. Management. Ownership. Fans. Everyone should be seriously concerned right now.

  • Senut

    like I said “pathetic”
    but I still believe in this group
    and crying budget is just stupid
    the players we got just haven’t gelled yet
    I believe they will but tonight it looked like
    almost every player had the flu just no effort
    and that sucks after ten games
    “Andy please” !

  • Ozzyhockey

    We should of found a different way to trade for Bobby Ryan, without giving up Silfver. To make things worse, the team sucks and we don’t even have our 1st round pick anymore :(
    Looks like BM needs to make one of his hockey trades ASAP. One of those you help me, I help you type of deals.

    • SensChirp

      Having Silfverberg would make absolutely zero difference. A perimeter-playing second line winger is not what’s missing right now.

      • Kielbasa

        the desire to win. And brains. That’s what this team is missing. I cannot recall a Sens team that has been this disappointing and so often. The mistakes are far too often and continue to bury them.

        • Tooks

          2008 was pretty bad…

          • Kielbasa

            Yes, 2008 was. But this season has just brought even more disappointment. The garbage on the ice has just come way too early. At least the 2008 garbage still filled the seats at CTC. Now you can just hear a pin drop.

      • Ozzyhockey

        What do you think we need? If you could make a trade or two, what type of players would help us out? All I was saying is that there could of been a different playing going the other way. Even Silfver on the 3rd line would have been better than we have currently. I’m not happy with the bottom 6 right now
        Don’t get me wrong, I don’t mind trade. I’m just saying we gave up a lot. Emotions over the Alfie thing got the better of BM. Bless his heart, he was only trying to make fans happy again. I just felt like we could have gave up a bit less.

      • Aaron 2.0

        I agree he’s not what’s missing, but, that seems like an awfully harsh assessment of Silfverberg after 1 (shortened) season in the NHL …

  • Senut

    Snow got Snowed

  • T K

    Sens need to play a few games vs Florida, etc. to get their confidence back. Tonight, every time they did something good, they did something stupid to kill their own momentum. Sens played against the Sharks AND the Sens tonight.

    At least they didn’t kill themselves with tons of penalties.

  • John

    Realistically what Ottawa would want to spend that money is one, if not two top four D-Men with experience. That would make a huge difference. The clear biggest mistake in the off-season was letting go of Andre Benoit only to pay the same money for Corvo. I hated us not retaining Benoit for the price and now he’s playing 22 minutes solid mins per evening in Colorado. Otherwise realistically Anderson just has to be better. Probably would have wanted 2 if not 3 of the goals back tonight. Not very sharp.

  • John

    Also the Vanek for Moulsen trade is amusing. I get the idea that Vanek may be considered more skilled/have a higher ceiling (40+ instead of 30+ goals), but Mouls + 1st + 2nd when Mouls himself has good chemistry with Tavares and has scored 30 goals 3 times + almost 30 goal pace last year. That’s a lot to pay for a pretty modest improvement. Then again Vanek could score 50 with Tavares so it may end up being worth it. He should certainly be deadly on the PP.

  • John

    Also, no way in hell that Mouls re-signs in Buffalo. I really wouldn’t mind seeing Ottawa go after him. Another pure goal scorer and one that could fit with Spezza. If we have the cash. It’ll be interesting to see if he runs back and re-ups in long island, making this a great deal for the Islanders.

    • Andersonfan40

      I also would like to see Murray sign Moulson next summer.

      • Tooks

        Spezza with Moulson could be very deadly!

        • laffin681021

          That’s what we said with Spezza and Ryan too…now they aren’t really playing together

  • Mat

    I guess this one of those down years for Anderson ?? He’s absolutely deflating right now. Can’t start a game without letting 2 stinkers in the span of first 5 minutes. It’s time to give Lehner the reigns for a while.

    And what’s it going to take to either unload Michalek, or give him permanent 3rd line duties? This guy is coasting. It’s obvious. He’s brutal on the L1 and any PP time is completely undeserved. Spezza deserves a real winger..

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      Don’t forget to bash Phillips and Corvo.

  • Andersonfan40

    I would like to see Murray trade for one of Bryan Boyle or Matt Moulson
    at the trade deadline!

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      Bryan Boyle will not help. Moulson sure why not

  • Guest

    I was at this game and man was it terrible. First off its a 5:00 game on a Sunday and the arena was empty. And about 25% of the people that did show up were Sharks fans. Sens fans should be ashamed. But then again the on ice product was shitty as I have ever seen. Chirp, that guy you retweeted is a fool, Spezza leaves Pavelski alone in front to go two man cover a guy in the corner. It seems like no one on this team is ever in the right position. Karlsson especially & Spezza as well were way too lazy all night. And Condra, everyone’s favourite defensively responsible winger with a terrible giveaway on Sheppard’s goal. It seems the players hold on to the puck way to long in the defensive zone and don’t make decisions and when they do they are the wrong ones. Hopefully Maclean and co and get this figured out soon.

  • GoSensGoEh

    Worked a 12 hour shift Sunday, so I’m watching the game on DVR. Some observations after one period.

    3 1/2 minutes into the game, Michalek entered the offensive zone with the puck, back passes to Wiercioch coming in on the point, and Wiercioch fires with Michalek and Greening crashing the net. No goal, but I wanted to describe one of the plays Michalek has been involved in, since some people are calling him invisible.

    1st goal, puck is sent to the net from the point, past Spezza, just out of reach for Greening, and hops over Corvo’s stick to Hertl, who puts it in off of a Cowen deflection.
    Hertl’s hands > Corvo’s hands.

    2nd goal, Condra tries a PK style panic clear, whiffs, and Desjardins scores an easy one. That situation is supposed to be Condra’s strength. I’m disappointed since I keep defending him.
    Air > Condra’s hands.

    3rd goal, Ottawa PP, Turris on the left point didn’t realize Karlsson was in trouble on the right point, Turris didn’t back out of the zone the way a defenseman would have, resulting in a SH breakaway goal.
    Experience > reading unusual situation/play

    Ottawa outplayed SJ in the first, except for the score. I’ll watch the second and third tomorrow.

  • GoSensGoEh

    Expectations for the Senators are high this year. Some experts are calling them the best chance at the Presidents trophy. I believe this has caused us to actually believe this team is the best this year, and to view any game they don’t dominate in as a failure.

    Maybe the team is playing tight trying to live up to those expectations, I don’t know, I’m just speculating. It’s still very early in the season, the third year of a rebuild season. I’ve lowered my expectations and am now hoping for a repeat of the last 2 years. Near .500 play for the first month or two, and then strong play in December and moving forward, and a return to the playoffs where the slate is wiped clean and the second season begins.

    MacLean will right this ship, and the Sens will start winning more than they lose soon enough.

  • senate19

    Whoa, we need a voice of reason in here! The season is still young, and a trade is not what this team needs. This team showed last year where a little bit of heart will get you. Plus we traded for a healthy Karlsson, Spezza, Michalek, Cowen and Anderson.

    It’s a long season and the team just hasn’t found its groove yet. They need to be broken before they can be fixed. You’ll see. Patience!