Game Day- Senators Host Alfredsson and the Wings

SensChirp February 27, 2014 465
Game Day- Senators Host Alfredsson and the Wings

It has been nearly three weeks since the Ottawa Senators last played a hockey game.

After an extended Olympic break, the Sens finally return to the ice at the Canadian Tire Centre.  And there will be no time for Ottawa to ease into things either as they get set to play one of the biggest games of their season against Daniel Alfredsson and the Detroit Red Wings.  The Wings currently hold the final wild card spot in the Eastern Conference, three points clear of the Sens. A huge two points on the line in Ottawa tonight.

Detroit is coming off a 2-1 overtime win in Montreal last night.  They lead most of the way, before giving up a late tying goal by Brian Gionta.  Yet another three point game and probably the worst possible result for the Senators.

Normally you would look at a match up against a team on a back to back and see it as an advantage but tonight I’m not so sure.  Watching that Wings/Habs game last night there was clearly a ton of rust for both teams so it may be an advantage for Detroit having already played a game post-Olympics.  It will be interesting to see what kind of jump the Senators have early in this one.  With only two players at the Olympics, they should be a well rested bunch.

Here is how Paul MacLean has lined his guys up most of the week.  Game Day post is a little earlier than usual so we’ll have to wait until the morning skate to confirm this line up.

Greening-Spezza-Michalek
MacArthur-Turris-Condra
Hoffman-Zibanejad-Ryan
Conacher-Smith-Neil

Methot-Karlsson
Cowen-Gryba
Phillips-Ceci

Robin Lehner gets the start in the Ottawa goal.  Craig Anderson is in Florida to be with his wife as they await the birth of their child.  Andrew Hammond has been recalled from Binghamton and will dress as Lehner’s back up.

The Daily Chirp- Tis the season for trade rumours.  With Bryan Murray making it known league wide that he’d like to add a tough, power forward type to play alongside Jason Spezza, there have been no shortage of rumours surrounding the Ottawa Senators.  The latest name to come up- St. Louis Blues forward Chris Stewart.  Stewart has one year remaining at a cap hit of $4.15 mil.  The Blues have been linked to some of the bigger names on the market including Ryan Miller and Ryan Callahan and may need to make some room under the salary cap.  Stewart is one of the guys believed to be available.  He would certainly fit the bill as a power forward type and with an extra year on his deal, wouldn’t be a straight rental.  Seems like a decent option.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    I was in MTL at the game last night. It was really boring, MTL had nothing and Detroit looked like half the guys were tired from being at the Olympics. Let’s hope both the Sens and Wings come out to play tonight.

    Sens will win this one 4-2!

    Go Sens Go!

    • RUSH RLZ

      Sorry, I’m not buying the part where you say you hope the Wings come out to play tonight. I hope they shit the bed in epic fashion and start a tailspin…

      • Dirk-Diggler

        The Wings were my childhood team so I will always cheer for them (except tonight of course) but also, I am hoping for Montreal and Toronto to collapse and Detroit and Ottawa get the playoff spots.

        Atlantic:
        -Boston
        -Tampa
        -Ottawa
        -Detroit

        Metropolitan:
        -Pittsburgh
        -NYR
        -Philadelphia
        -Carolina

        Those are my top 8 at the end of the season… hopefully…

        • RUSH RLZ

          Anything can happen but mathematically that is a nightmare Habs/Leafs are 6/7 points ahead of us, if we want to keep our eyes on the prize, for now we should all be gunning for that last spot, and yes against 5 other teams. That is going to be rough enough!

          • Sandy

            Both Mtl & Tor have to do the California trip shortly. Let’s hope they fail while the Sens win.. and that point spread will shrink.
            Do you think for once the hockey gods will favour the Sens and give them a break?

  • Jimmy!

    I like the Stewart idea, but as BM is, BM does – so I ‘m sure if he does anything it will be off piste.

    Interesting stat I read the other day which states that for every player an NHL team sends to the Olympics, they lose 0.1gpg/ on average after the break.

    If the stats holds up ( and we know they always do….. said with a sly smirk) the hardest hit teams would be Motorcity, Chitown & Vancity. Not to shabby for our fist two games back.

    As always GYFSG!!!!!!!!!

  • karlssens

    Really excited to have the sens back playing!! Big game tonight, we really need the win here.

    As for Stewart, yes please! There are complaints about his effort level, but adding another 20 goal scored to the lineup would be nice!

  • Millennium

    I like Hoffman with Zibanejad and Ryan, but when Greening and Condra are in your top 6, you’re gonna have a bad time.

    • boom

      I’m praying that Condra and Greening are being show-cased…otherwise, makes no sense.

    • Doc

      REALLY excited to see that line. It has it all, and for once Hoffman has some legit players with him. Should be a fun line to watch.

      • MethotToMyMadness

        I agree, the 3rd line will be fun to watch. Hoffman is the only forward in the lineup who has continued to play during the NHL Olympic break and should have no rust at all. He may end up with a lot more TOI then we think.

  • Andrews theory

    I’d love to see that third line eat it up tonight. I was hoping they’d put Hoffman with Zibanejad and assumed the third would be Conacher.

    I like the idea of Stewart, one thing that may or may not be concerning is he typically feasts on lower caliber teams and dries up against stiffer competition. With that said, we haven’t exactly destroyed the teams we should have and I’ve always been a Stewart fan. Hopefully were buying in at the right time, he’s up and down like a yo yo.

    Question is, what are the Blues going to want in return, they aren’t in a position to take salary back. Why not package off Prince, he may find himself going from a roster that’s difficult to crack into one that’s impossible to crack…

  • Leblanc

    If Murray was smart he would screw the Sabres (division rivals regardless of if they suck this season)… Offer up Anderson for Stewart. Same term remaining and Blues save 1M in salary… Blues upgrade in goal, Sens go with Lehner and upgrade up front!

    • thepez

      So who backs up Lehner if he gets hurt? Andrew Hammond? I think that Murray would screw his own team if he made that deal.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        Bishop…. Ohhh wait

        • Leblanc

          A backup isn’t hard to find. I’m sure we can throw something in and get Brian Elliott back.

  • MethotToMyMadness

    Looking at the lineups, it seems PMac isn’t going for offensive punch in a 2 or 3 line format. He’s going for a balanced 4 lines to start off after the Olympic break, to help shake off the rust, which is a damn good idea.

    He’s put a known energy guy on each line, which will help balance everything out. I would assume after the 1st period, we’ll see almost every line having equal minutes played. But that will start to change in the 2nd and 3rd, when he gets an idea of who’s skating and who’s not. The lineups are only a starting point, not a finishing point.

    Greening has a better history offensively with Spezza on the top line, than anywhere else he’s been put, so we can’t be upset with that decision. And where else is 9MM going to go? As for the 2nd and 3rd, good balances as well. And our 4th line has never been a problem when it consists of any of the regulars. As strange as it all looks, I somewhat like the idea. We are using everyone in a pretty good spot to start it off.

    Stewart fits the bill of a Power Forward, which is the term being tossed around Sens Management as a need these days. My only concern is some games he shows some Power, some games he doesn’t. Would be nice if he was consistent, but then again, that’s why he’s considered a player on the block in St. Louis. The hope would be he lands here (if a deal is done) and he breaks through all that and goes back to the form he showed in 09-10 and 10-11. Because those are the Seasons he’s still remembered for and that is the form everyone is hoping they get from him. Hard to say it will happen again.

  • Doc

    Alright, am I the only who’s not sold on Stewart? He is streaky as they come, and often just lacks heart in his game. I don’t see how he improves our team in the long run, besides just adding grit if we make the playoffs.

    Meh.

    • Pasky

      Stewart for Greening+Prince

      He might be streaky but Stewart is definitely an upgrade to Greening

    • Mark

      I’m not sold on Stewart because I’ve only really noticed him when we played St. Louis. I would prefer to add more skill as opposed to more grit. Adding Stewart would, IMO, be making a move just to make a move instead of waiting for a more skilled 2-way forward.

      • Doc

        Agreed. I’ve watched a fair share of St-Louis game this year and I just don’t regard him as anything special. I still think our main goal should be to bring a top-4 D that has a little nasty edge, but we’ll have to wait to see what Murray does.

      • MB

        A guy who scores 28 goals in back to back years and was on pace for 30 last year has plenty of skill not to mention he brings a toughness and edge as well. So right now you are talking about a player you haven’t the slightest clue about.

  • PraiseAlfie11

    I miss the days when the sens were perennial president cup contenders :(.

    This lose 7 games and you’re toast is bad for my liver.

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      I hear ya, but hopefully once Dorion takes over he becomes an aggressive “GO FOR IT” GM and we add more skill at all positions. This bubble team crap is getting really old and so is the prospect talk. Enough sizzle, gimme some STEAK.
      TOOKS100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • CUP 2014-15

    Well guess what? Big game!!!! They all will be but you need to shoot for 94+ pts to get a ticket to the dance so here’s hoping the boys only need 29 more tomorrow morning. Does not matter what anyone else does or if this is a 3 pt game, bottom line is get to 94 and we’re dancing.
    I like Stewart but must agree with Doc and some others in that he is streaky and tends to disappear at times but then again there were a ton of writers and fans that did not like the Turris trade and those who didn’t hate it were onto the, wish we didn’t have to throw in that 2nd rounder. I have faith in BM and company and am on the fence with Stewart but if they pull that trigger then I am going to like the deal. The thing we don’t know is his character and if all he needs is a move. I still hope BM goes off the map and finds someone were not talking about. I would not be shocked to see this team make it’s final retool this week by moving Andy for a quality back up and a first, along with a number of fringe guys on the move. No doubt this team is young and getting close so it’s going to be a fun week.
    Sens in a blow out tonight 5-1 and the Hoff with his first as well as a big night from the Captain’s line. GSG

  • Cassidaus

    I know it’s really unlikely, but what would it take to get Hall from the Oilers. I’m sure there’s a deal that can be made there.

    • MethotToMyMadness

      I don’t think Hall being made available by the Oilers is something you could say is out of the question. Hell, even the Great one was traded. But it would require some serious assets going to Edmonton in exchange, if they ever opened that door. And how many teams are willing to sell the farm?

      Yes Edmonton has hogged the Draft poll in recent years, but it’s no secret the top players they’ve landed since 2008 have been Hall and Eberle and everything they’ve built has been around these two. Nothing against RNH or Yakupov but that’s just how it is. And of all the players on the Oilers roster, I think Hall would be the hardest to get.

      You could consider the comparison in Ottawa, to being would BM trade Karlsson?

  • sens23

    with Ryan Kesler rumored to be asking out of vancouver and Bob Mckenzie saying vancouver would look to get players like ryan johansen or derek stepan. would any sens fans be fine with putting together a package that included kyle turris to acquire ryan kesler

    • runningbear1974

      no, Turris is one of my favourites… How many playoff overtime goals has he scored for us? seriously, he’s super valuable, and a winner… Not just ‘talent’ but hustle too… And smart good decisions… No freaking way…

    • MethotToMyMadness

      As much as I like Kesler, I think Turris is still growing and still getting better. Kesler has already reached his plateau. And don’t forgot the contract Turris is on, it’s crazy good! Personally wouldn’t make that deal.

      • sens23

        yes the contract is good on turris that is why i think the canucks would like him it saves them 1.5 million. kelser may have plateaud but he has plateaud as a 65+ 2nd line center. turris in his best year so far (this year) is on pace for 61 points

        i am not saying the sens should make the trade either i was just wondering what sens fans would think

        next question would be what if it becomes an even bigger blockbuster and the sens acquire kesler & Edler for turris, cowen, and whatever else it takes. does anyone do that deal?

        • sprucesens

          no. turris is hopefully set to be on this team for a LONG time. His hard work has basically already made him the #1 center. this would be undoing an amazing trade for no reason at all. But if a cowen for edler kind of deal could work out, I wouldn’t be against it.

        • Zelle

          Sens need playoff performers. Edler is not one of those.

        • CUP 2014-15

          For me it’s NO WAY, NEVER and NOT A FREAKEN CHANCE. Not one for one. KT is 5 years younger, tied up longer for less cash. Kesler is still dropping in value, his last big year points wise was the year prior to Spezz finishing top 5 in the NHL (think about that, people feel Spezz is all washed up because he hasn’t done shit for almost two years and yet you need to still go back another year to find a 70 + pt season from Kesler. He has a -10 less points then KT in more games and KT sure as hell looks like a play-off performer to boot.

        • Guest

          65+ points 3 seasons ago…

    • Finn 8

      No way I am trading Turris for Kesler

    • Doc

      LOL! ……..Oh my god you weren’t joking.

      Now I feel sad inside.

      • sens23

        yeah your right kesler wouldnt be better than turris?
        now i feel sad inside. but more sad for you

        • Doc

          No, no he wouldn’t. Turris has an mazing contract for what he brings and signed long term. And he probably only scratched the surface of his skills. He’s only 24.

          And here’s something to help you out:

          Turris: GP 59 G 19 A 25 Total 44 +17
          Kesler: GP 60 G 20 A 18 Total 38 -10

          You can thank me later.

        • Tyler Oakman

          No way would I do Kesler for Turris. Turris is younger and Kesler has benefited from the play of the Sedins over the years. He has also declined significantly over the past 3 seasons, whereas Turris is improving steadily. Horrible deal.

    • Zelle

      I’m going to start by saying Turris is my favorite Sens player by far. I have his Number and Name on my jersey and there is no other player I would want to wear.

      Bias out in the clear. There is no way Turris is getting traded. Only Karlsson can rival the way Turris brings the puck in the opposing zone. He is our best +/- guy, a strong team player, a leader by example, and an asset to any player on his line. All this packaged with a winning attitude and natural hockey talent, at that price, the Sens organization would have to be fools to let him go.

      • Doc

        I still can’t believe he’s signed until 2017-2018 at a cap hit of 3,5.

        Probably one of the best contracts in the NHL right now.

        • The Apostle

          When Bobby Mac said what he said about Kesler I thought that maybe a deal could be made with Zbad as the centerpiece. It never occurred to me that anybody would think about trading Turris.

          • Doc

            Call me biased, but I wouldn’t trade Zibby either. He’s 20 and already a possession wizard with all the tools to be a complete player. Looking forward to see him develop into a stud.

          • The Apostle

            I wouldn’t rush to do it either, but if it happened I could understand it. Moving Turris is bad on so many levels.

  • Pasky

    If 94 points is the cut line to get in the playoffs, a realistic record for them to shoot for would end up being 13-5-5… That is not a lot of breathing room for errors. Especially with 4 games in 7 nights on a Western Road Trip next week. Good news is we only have 3 games out of 23 against elite competition (Pittsburgh, Chicago & Colorado), 5 games against higher seeded Eastern teams that we can still compete with (Montreal x2, Tampa x2 & Toronto), and 6 games that should go our way (Calgary x2, Edmonton, NY Islanders x2 & Florida). The rest of the games (9) are against even competition so it’s doable if they play lights out hockey.

    • my2sens

      I think that is reasonable and the Sens could make it. The only scary part is that the Sens don’t seem strong in the ‘should go our way’ games…

      • Andrews theory

        said this before, but those are the games Stewart excels in.
        He feeds on weaker competition and if we win the games we’re supposed to we’re in….

    • Miguel

      wow kind of scary when it is painted like that, there really is little to no room for error. Starting with a win tonight.
      any deviace from that winning format, and I dont want to put a damper on things, but that is lofty expectations for any team, never mind one that has had its struggles this season, and a few losses before the deadline and I would be comfortable being sellers at the deadline. Heck if we could trade fan favs like Fisher and Kelly and super fan fav Kovalev :-), than anyone can be had for the right price of improving next year and the future.

  • http://www.Merchaholic.ca Merchaholic

    Greening on the 1st line, Condra on the 2nd line, Ryan on the 3rd line… wtf is Paul doing.

    • Doc

      TOI determines lines, not the centers.

    • sprucesens

      never trust his lineups any more. they don’t last. but I hope he keeps zib with hoff and ryan. that line has everything. crazy speed-puck control and zone entrance-sniper wrist shot. The perfect line. Here’s hoping they click for a few.

      but yes, the other 2 need to be upgraded. maybe stewart or other similar player. Would be nice to keep the prospects getting chances. I hope hoffy makes it this time

    • Don Ciccio

      Stone would look a lot better with Turris and McArthur than Condra. Condra is going to make that line look ordinary.

      • not YOUR wingman

        actually that line will OWN the puck when they’re on the ice

        • Don Ciccio

          they would own the puck regardless of who is on that line besides Kassian.

      • Simple Jack

        with condra running that line offsides a few times last game we could only think we are putting him on our best line to showcase him.

  • Jimmy!

    Be nice to see a quick stay at home D man brought in at the tdl….. or a blockbuster deal that lands Webber! Huge contract with him, but man he’s a great player!

    As per tonight – RL with the shutout.

    4-0 Senators.

    GYFSG!

    • sprucesens

      spiderman? or weber?

      just poking fun

  • Dirk-Diggler

    I’d love for Murray to get Adam Larsson from the Devils. What do you think it would cost?

    Also, Sens are doing a pre-game ceremony for the CANADIAN players… WTF are they thinking? It should be for all of the Olympians!

    • Sensnation

      Larsson would be as hard to pry from them, as Karlsson is for us.

      • MikeS

        Not nearly comparable. However Larsson would be worth a fair chunk

        • Sensnation

          Ask the Devils. He is untouchable.

      • Dirk-Diggler

        I am not sure about that… They’ve sent him to Albany…

        But, him and Karlsson would look awesome together!

        • Sensnation

          Sending him to Albany doesn’t mean they’re done with him. I love how everytime a team does this with elite talent sens fans think we can get them for cheap.

        • Doc

          Weren’t they linemates in Frölunda HC?

        • TookieIs100PercentRight

          Larsson is really, really good. He’s got excellent defensive instincts and positioning (duh, he’s a Devils) and his offensive game is quite respetcably. He’ll be one of those guys that plays 10-15 years in the league and goes unnoticed because he just gets it done every night. Like a Swedish Phillips I guess, minus the crazy boardwork.
          I’d send Cowen over for him…Larsson/Karlsson = smooth criminal.
          TOOKS100%OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • illdistrict

      If so, that is very disrespectful to all the elite talent that will fill the building tonight.

    • not YOUR wingman

      29 NHL teams would love to get Larsson from NJ

    • Sensturion

      Unless there are athletes that will be in attendance, there are no Canadian players playing on either team. Where did you get your info?

      • illdistrict
      • Simple Jack

        i guess babcock could be honored

        • Xylo

          It is canadian olympians not necessarily canadian hockey olympians.

  • IcySurfas

    Anyone else listening to TSN 1200 right now in Ottawa?

    Don Brennan needs to go away … far away. Absolute fucking moron!!

    That is all …

    • Doc

      I prefer not to have any sudden urges to stick sharp objects in my ears, thank you very much.

    • RUSH RLZ

      Funny story, his writing is on my lifelong blacklist, guy is a putz. I don’t mind him on the radio though….

    • 010101110010101010101010101111

      Mister Brennan needs to be contacted by more Nigerian princes with money transfer problems

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      Him and Shawn Simpson. I mean WTF was that picture on twitter, Simmer is in studio with sunglasses and a toque and stuff? Dude, you’re in Ottawa not New York/Vegas, simmer down…
      And yeah, Brennan is useless. How does a city this nice (Ottawa) get such garbage media??
      TOOKS100%OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Sensnation

    Hoping Stewart isn’t the answer. Seems almost like a trade to free up cap space for them to be able to get Miller. Not interested in making Tim’s life easier just for the sake of a trade.

    Should be a good chance to take advantage of the tired Wings tonight. GO SENS GO!!!

    • MB

      Like I mentioned above Stewart had back to back 28 goal seasons and last year had 15 and was on pace for 30. People bitch and complain that Spezza doesn’t have a winger to play with or Ottawa doesn’t have a power forward up front who can crash, bang, fight, and score. Stewart is all of those things.

      How often to power forwards with the ability to score 30 goals that are 26 and signed beyond the end of the season come available? The answer is hardly ever.

  • Simple Jack

    dont go after stewart, go for e. kane!

    loving the pic today chirp!

    go sens!

  • i am just saying

    tonight THE Ragnar Lothbrok returns to television and OUR Ragnar Lothbrok
    returns to playing in an NHL game

    a good omen methinks.

    • TrueLou

      if you’re referring to karlsson, im quite certain Ragnar’s wife could rip his arms out, and beat him silly…also, she’d be better in the corners..

      • Rebel Held Suburb

        Robin Lehner = RL = Ragnar Lothbrok II

        go back to your old handle ZipZapcRap

  • Lorenzo72

    Is there a brain inside MacLean’s skull? Where is PW46?

    • illdistrict

      Merely allowing Phillips to play his last home game before the trade deadline.

      • sprucesens

        well played sir

  • Miguel

    replaced by Phillips… I do not agree, as PW has been playing well at both ends recently.
    I really do not get why we would sit a better players, in favour of weaker players, right now PW is playing better than both Phillips and Cowen,
    yet pressbox he goes? Very confusing

  • Mark

    I’m hoping to see Stone back up soon. He looked pretty good before he got hurt. I think he is a good fit with Spezza.

    • Miguel

      yes agreed, and SDC as well… again if we go are not certain playoff contenders, i would be more than happy to move a few bodies so we can view some of our prospects.

      • sprucesens

        yeah, have to assume we are either going to find room for SDC or find him a place in the nhl. I could see him being a piece going to buffalo, if we trade with them. they need scoring, and right now don’t have a definitive 2c or 3c. da costa can probably handle either and do a good job, with ennis taking the other spot, and hodgson the top spot for now.

  • esk

    MENDES: 10 BURNING QUESTIONS FOR THE SENS DOWN THE STRETCH: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=444814

  • NickofTime

    Love that picture of Neil going after Bertuzzi, Neil is one of the toughest guys in the NHL who can also play every shift, same for Bertuzzi. Obviously, adding a guy like Stewart would help Ottawa since he is also a tough guy who can play & I like those kind of players the best. My guess is that it would have to be a three way deal with Buffalo since Buffalo has what St Louis wants & that is a #1 goalie Miller. Then it’s just a matter of deciding what TM wants in return from Ottawa & whether BM is willing to give it to him.

    From that lineup, I would replace Condra with Stone, Conacher with Greening & Stewart could replace Greening on that top line. In fact, Phillips, Conacher & Condra should be part of any deal to make room on the roster for Stone & Stewart. My own guess is that BM will have a very difficult time making any deal & he could end up with Drew Stafford from Buffalo who is a lite version of Stewart & what BM really wants.

  • Sandy

    Don’t know if this has been mentioned or not…

    Don Brennan ‏@SunDoniB 5h

    Bertuzzi our for Wings tonight because it’s 2nd in back to back. “I might have taken Alfredsson out too if it wasn’t Ottawa,” said Babcock

  • gds

    heard today that during the buffalo game before the break, one deal that was presented by BM 2TM was a colin greening for marcus foligno trade

    • gds

      also was told a zack smith and a prospect for matt moluson

      • SensChirp

        Organization loves Zack Smith. MacLean especially. That would be…shocking.

        • gds

          i think that was a TM ask not a BM

          • SensChirp

            Also heard he asked for Lazar for Ott haha. Timmy is trying. Bryan aint biting.

          • gds

            haha thats why i love trade deadline day anything can happen….just not that lazar for ott lol

          • SensChirp

            Or Smith for Moulson

          • boom

            would you consider it if they both had the same term left? I really like Smith, but I might…

          • sprucesens

            i like smith as the 4th C. but if trading smith means less minutes for that grinding line, i’m all for trading him to get a better top 6. as a rental, no, but i assume we would be trying to resign moulson, if that were the case

          • Rebel Held Suburb

            Not surprising

            Lazar is also the kind of player that Nolan would go to War with

          • SensFanInMTL

            That statement, joke or not, frightens the phuck outta me.

        • FistsofNeil25

          I really like Zack Smith’s game this year. He’s really come into his own. Problem is, if the organization is insistent on keeping Zibanejad at center, there just isn’t enough ice time to go around for all of our centers.

          I wouldn’t trade Smith for an impending UFA like Moulson, but maybe the organization is shopping him to give him an opportunity somewhere else. Either him or Zibanejad are going to see significantly reduced ice-time and I’d really be disappointed to only see Zibanejad play around 10 minutes a game.

        • Aaron 2.0

          I love Zack Smith. He’s actually my wife’s favorite hockey player. But, he’s probably one of the few sens who teams would target, and isn’t at a low (in terms of market value). I’m not saying trade him. But, I could understand how he could become a good piece in a trade.

      • Rebel Held Suburb

        teams like Chicago and Edmonton LOVE Zack Smith

        he’d fetch a lot more than a 3 month rental in a trade

    • boom

      I was thinking of Foligno the last time I watched Buffalo play – thinking maybe they would swap Cowen for him. To me, they have both taken a step backwards this year.

    • sprucesens

      i assume tim laughed

    • sprucesens

      very interesting to hear the proposals being thrown around though, keep them coming if you hear anything

  • luckan20

    Folks we should feel the market for Phillips. He will get us a 2nd and/or more. Bruins will take him. May be the Red Wings too.
    Folingo for Greening is not a bad option. BM is looking for a guy with contract left. I believe Greening will get better return from West.
    I doubt BM moving Smith because as some of you mentioned that he is PM guy. Only way we are moving him, if the return is damn big. I will like to see Greening off the roster so that we can bring Stone to NHL.

    • Aaron 2.0

      If the Bruins have interest in Phillips, I think the organization would be wise to go that route. The only contract I would advocate would involve very little money, and an understanding that he might only suit up for half of the games (or less). I doubt he’d be happy to take that, and I’m even skeptical about him in that role. I think it might be time for everybody to move on. Get something for him while there is still some value. Just my opinion.

  • Richard Gough

    What this that Murray has offered Phillips a new contract ?

    Does any one have any dirt on this Bs?

    • sprucesens

      yeah, would be interesting to know the terms, and what would be considered “lifer” if thats more than next year, i don’t think its a possibility from the team standpoint. My guess is they hope he rejects the offer and goes elsewhere. If he does accept, they have their 7th D for super cheap. I just can’t see him having a bigger role than that next year, unless we trade 2-3 D from this year’s roster

      • Richard Gough

        He needs to move him now take a 2nd for next yr draft

        • sprucesens

          while i fully agree that they should move him, i also see the loyalty, problems after the alfie thing, and still wanting a veteran. If he accepts the corvo role, i’m fine with it, but i think management still wants to use him more.

          • Richard Gough

            He has nothin too offer his time had passed plus we can always try to sign a verteran in the off season

  • SensFanInMTL

    Welcome back everyone! Let’s grab these 2 PTS and finally get back into contention. It feels like forever since the last game and extremely irritating to be constantly creeping up slowly behind the standings. Let’s go boys.

  • karlssens

    Nice to see Karl back on my team haha

  • FistsofNeil25

    Gryba and Cowen vs Datsyuk. I really hope that isn’t the matchup that Maclean is looking for.

  • Millennium

    Hoffman looking good early!

    • Michenator

      Sure is!

  • Michenator

    Neil-Smith-Conacher is an awesome line!

  • karlssens

    Guess the time off didn’t help Cowen out lol..

    • Millennium

      His progression reminds me of a good driver who gets in a really bad accident and is totally useless behind the wheel for several years afterwards.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Guys came to play tonight. Great play offensively… but have to put one home soon!

  • FistsofNeil25

    Damn!

  • Michenator

    yikes….

  • FistsofNeil25

    Costly, costly mistakes…

  • Spoons

    Just when I thought Ceci was having a good start… Rookie mistake

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Cowen…….

    • sprucesens

      he learned from phillips, don’t play D, just point to tell others to do it for you…

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    How is this happening. We’re dominating.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Because this 2013/2014 edition of the Sens just loves to shoot themselves in the foot. It’s inexcusable.

    • Colin

      Young D making poor decisions hanging the goalie out to dry

  • SensFanInMTL

    Um, le plus pire marde j’ai jamais vu.

  • Dirtysweetness

    Diddle getting another top 6 forward! Maybe find someone that can play defense.

  • karlssens

    This defense is unbelievable. What the fuck Cowen..

  • Aaron 2.0

    How about trading for that forward… Sorry guys, but this defense is just too young and inexperienced. They put so much pressure on our forwards to score, score, score. A lot of good pieces on D. But the their current roles are just too much for them, right now.

    • karlssens

      That shift from Cowen – gryba just killed me.

  • SensFanInMTL

    Judging by the comments, is it REALLY Cowen or are you guys just harpin’ on him for the sake of?

    • Colin

      I’m pretty sure I heard Cowen tell Ceci to drop that pass

    • SensFanInMTL

      Gryba too as it may seem eh?

    • sprucesens

      that was some poor skating and defensive play on his part

      also ceci made a poor pass that can be attributed to youth, luckily he only makes the odd mistake every couple of games. not like cowen where its 2-5 every game

      • Jacques

        Cowen really sucks, bumbles the puck all the time and a timbit kid could go around him! Call up Claessen. And ca we finish with 14 and 22 already!

  • LeafsSux

    Some things never change…

  • SensFanInMTL

    Commence the trade rumors nao!

  • karlssens

    We are all okay with the ceci play because he brings a lot to the team in a good way.. Cowen brings nothing but accidents.

  • H POTTER

    Wow

  • sprucesens

    jesus christ

  • Colin

    Maybe if the goalie would make a save….

    • FistsofNeil25

      Maybe if our defense would clear the front of the net instead of allowing the Detroit forward to stand on top of the crease and screen the shit out of him.

      • Colin

        Sorry. Gus is making great saves at the other end of the ice. Lehner is not.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Although not really a valid excuse today…. Maybe if a goalie would get more than one game a month

  • FistsofNeil25

    Maybe a time out is in order?

    • sprucesens

      we don’t take timeouts, or pull goalies

  • Michenator

    This is hurtin’ pretty bad. Lehner not looking too good on those last 2.

    • Michenator

      Hoffman looks great! Definitely some pros to take away from this game so far, besides the score.

  • SensFanInMTL

    Hammond is preparing to head onto the ice shortly.

    • Colin

      Hammond just ran out of the building

      • SensFanInMTL

        lmao, it’s in the parking headed back down to New York.

  • karlssens

    Such a shame.. A great start.

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      This is ridiculous. Like, how.

      • Conor_smythe

        lehners fault

        • sprucesens

          no

          • Conor_smythe

            mostly

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Barely

        • sprucesens

          3rd goal yes, but other 2 were the D

  • H POTTER

    OK to answer Sens fan in Mtl: first goal rare mistake from Ceci. #2 was Cowen being lost on the ice..clueless. While I’m typing they score again..poor Lehner seems like he’s already given up

  • Aaron 2.0

    If the sens lose tonight, 5 points behind the Red Wings. For me, that would cement what Murray should be doing come deadline.

  • karlssens

    Yes Lehner hasn’t helped the cause.. But I’m about fed up with Cowen and gryba. A butterfly could beat them in a race.

  • MoeDozer

    i used to think we really need a Dman and not a forward…now im thinking we need both..asap.

    • FistsofNeil25

      I’m thinking we need two dmen, Maybe three.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    The beer is going down so quick…After a great start to the game wow…I am in shock but no time to give up just yet. GO SENS GO and btw trade cowen!

    • Aaron 2.0

      Cowen struggled so much after coming back from injury. Coaching staff’s solution – Play him on the 1st line for higher quality of competition and more minutes. Not surprisingly, it’s not going well, and he’s looking less and less confident and more and more lost by the game. Solution – Trade him away…

      He needs to be put into a position to succeed. That hasn’t happened this year for him. I feel for the big lug.

  • SensFanInMTL

    To Calgary:
    Conacher & Michalek

    To Ottawa:
    Cammalleri

    To St. Louis:
    Greening
    To Ottawa:
    Stewart

    Cammalleri – Spezza – Stewart
    MacArthur – Turris – Ryan
    Hoffman – Zibanejad – Condra
    Kassian – Smith – Neil

    PROVE ME WRONG, KIDS. PROVE ME WRONG

    • Colin

      Do Cammalleri and Stewart play D?

      • SensFanInMTL

        You make up your own D trades. I’m going back to the living room. -_-

        • Colin

          Ok. I’m going back to the fridge for another frosty.

          • SensFanInMTL

            Fuck this. I’m staying here and listening to the TV from here. Every time I step back, the puck is behind the net.

  • karlssens

    MY EYES HURT

  • Conor_smythe

    Karlsson always unloads a canon when there is somebody standing right in front of him

    but when he has a nice open lane to the net, he fakes the shot

    I wish he would reverse that habit

  • Millennium

    Well at least Hoffman came to play….he’s embarassing the pros ahead of him on the depth chart

  • sprucesens

    well that was a fun game thanks guys

  • karlssens

    Gryba is retarded

  • Michenator

    Well the Wings are getting a ton of bounces to boot…

  • LeafsSux

    Good fucking night! Fire them ALL

  • FistsofNeil25

    Cowen and Gryba have been on the ice for 3 goals against so far tonight. I’m pretty sure everyone knew that pairing would be a complete disaster.

    • Conor_smythe

      everyone except the coach

  • sens88

    Sell Bryan, sell!!!

  • Millennium

    Get Lehner out of there, for his own sake

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    …………..at least Bobby came to play

  • karlssens

    And we wanted to trade Andy.. Wow.

  • H POTTER

    I think there’s nothing better to do but to laugh at this point..it was almost 5 nothing in the first 20min played against an old Detroit that played last night

  • Dirtysweetness

    See you next season. Ottawa is playing like pond shinny.

  • SensFanInMTL

    So are we in full 2010-2011 mode or are we making the post season?

  • http://www.crashthenet.ca/ Luc Wolfe

    To any nhl team
    Phillips
    Cowen

    To Ottawa
    Peace of mind
    Me stopping complaining about cowen.

    • Millennium

      SOLD

    • SensFanInMTL

      Pas assez. Il faudrait ajouter 1st rounder at least for the peace of mind.

  • karlssens

    Honestly I would just give away Cowen at this point. See if we can trick a team into just taking him from us.

  • roon42 .

    don’t worry team, 4-0 is the worst lead in hockey…. oh wait no its not.

  • MoeDozer

    since we are all just sh*tting on this team for now although lets not forget its only the 1st period. crazier things have happened.

    1 comment ive always said about Pmac ever since he joined us.. he NEVER calls timeouts. i understand you want to save it for the end of the game. but too often its clear we need a timeout to settle the boys down. he elects to keep on playing as more goals get scored in.

    • Conor_smythe

      very true… timeouts should be in 90% of games.. I’ve always said that

    • sprucesens

      yeah, 2 goals ago, a timeout would have been nice

  • Cicero
  • karlssens

    Haha we got them right where we want them!

    • Colin

      We’ve got them right where they want us.

  • karlssens

    Watching team Canada’s defense and then going to ours is like coming home from Florida in January.

  • aegiszx

    Just got home from work… Is the score really as bad as it seems? Do I want to tune into the 2nd…? TheScore says Gryba/Cowen are -3… wtf happened?

    • Millennium

      Gryba/Cowen happened.

      Ceci got burned on a rookie mistake, Lehner hasn’t been sharp, Cowen and Gryba have been terrible, and the whole team looks bad after a really strong opening couple minutes

  • H POTTER

    See yall next game guys.. chance for me to catch up on breaking bad..the wife’s going to be happy lol

    • SensFanInMTL

      Pinkman dies.

      • Tyler Oakman

        So does Walt Junior. Chokes on a piece of turkey bacon.

    • http://www.crashthenet.ca/ Luc Wolfe

      Same here lol

  • FistsofNeil25

    I have no idea what the excuse is tonight. This is shaping up to be a worse loss that the game to Boston before the break. They better come out swinging to open the second.

  • Jacques

    Ok well, now we can only afford to lose 6 games!

    • FistsofNeil25

      Pretty sure if we lose this one the season will be all but over. We’ll be five points out and there are too many teams battling it out for pretty much one playoff spot. We have too many holes in our line-up.

      • Jacques

        So we sell, and Murray better sell big time! Can’t be on the fence.

        • FistsofNeil25

          Sell who though? and for what? all the players we would want to sell aren’t worth a whole lot. Murray might sell off a couple of expiring contracts but he’s not going to blow up the roster again.

          • Jacques

            The guys you sell are 14-4-19-2-9 and maybe 25 those are your loto 6/49 numbers for Saturday! Bonus number 22

          • Jacques

            Forgot Conacher cuz his number is over 49 but he should go too.

          • SensFanInMTL

            Well in due time Puempel & Lazar will have every bit of the chance to be on the ’14-’15 roster on opening night.

          • sprucesens

            can’t wait for that. thats why i really hope we trade a few guys, 14,22 and 9. The returns isn’t AS important as making the room for the future. None of those guys are going to get us much. Picks wise, as overpayment, a 2nd and 2 3rds for the lot

          • SensFanInMTL

            You have to understand that I’m delaying headed out west for work so that I can get the chance for the 2 to crack the roster, get their 1st goals and/ or PTS, record it, add it to my collection, THEN head out?

          • sprucesens

            mmm, not sure i understand?

        • Millennium

          The guys we want to get rid of aren’t worth much. Greening, Cowen, Michalek aren’t gonna net you much this season. Phillips could get a nice return, but the organization is petrified of making a good business deal on the back of another legacy player. Conacher might net you something I suppose.

          • sprucesens

            its not just about return, its about making room for the better players we already have

          • Jacques

            Good answer.

          • Jonny

            No kidding, Cowen, Phillips, Greening, Condra I would get rid of them for pucks and sticks.

          • Millennium

            Not Condra. He’s a decent 4th liner and has been for a while. He’s being asked to do waaay too much above his level this season.

  • http://www.crashthenet.ca/ Luc Wolfe

    Does anyone remember who missed the training camp… hint: starts with Jared ends with Cowen

  • SensFanInMTL

    Listening to the sad music in the background of the Rogers House telethon and how we’re down 4 goals makes it even more sad and discouraging.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Hopefully the boys forget about that period and start playing good. Hope we go out with a fight and take it on this 4 game road trip.

  • karlssens

    They honestly played well that period.. Three players cost them that period.. And ceci wasn’t one of them.

    • Jacques

      Well he cost a goal! Hoffman looked good!

      • FistsofNeil25

        Hoffman looked very good. I hope Maclean continues to play him.

        • SensFanInMTL

          And if he Mac doesn’t continue, then at this point, he is to blame for everything. For not taking time outs, not playing Hoffman enough and everything else conceivable.

        • Jacques

          Now, if we could ditch 22 and 14 and bring up Stone and DaCosta. Not saying we make the playoffs but let these kids play make some money and feel good about next year!

      • sprucesens

        agreed, a few positives. Ryan looks like he’s hungry again, hoffman is not only getting ice time for once, but is actually looking good in the process. most of the other players played well for a bit, but then the D happened.

    • xiorcal

      They only played well at the start of the game. They are so lost in there own zone its painful to watch. Not much blame on Lehner.

      • Jacques

        Don’t know what Greening was doing on that Penalty kill. Leaves Franzen all alone.

        • Jonny

          He was hoping Cowen was in position…

  • karlssens

    Is the special guest Shea weber and he’s going to play for us in the second?

    • Jonny

      Just wait 10 years and Cowen will be even better…

      • Jacques

        Haha, he’ll be in my beer league before that!

  • Jonny

    I like how Cowen is now suffering from CP4 syndrome…Pointing to his man and telling others to cover him, while he watches out of position…

  • luckan20

    This game will get uglier than the Bruins one. Lehner looks nervous because of his star studded defensive help. Our PP looks good if not for two errand passes by Spezza.
    Condra, Greening, Smith, Neil, Cowen and Gryba have so far having an outstanding game.

    • karlssens

      Wut?

      • SensFanInMTL

        Yeah I had to read that for a second time!

      • sprucesens

        50/50 on sarcasm

  • Cicero

    Andrew Hammond, please.

    • xiorcal

      Not sure its a good idea to throw him in this mess. Lehner is strong enough to stick in this mess. Might even fight before the end of the game and not sure if its going to be against a wing or one of is own ”D”

      • Cicero

        Thanks. I needed the chuckle! :)

  • Cicero

    Lace ‘em up, Coach Maclean.

  • karlssens

    When did Lehner become average?

    • Jacques

      I said it awhile back, Murray said they might deal a goalie from a position of strength. Lehner isn’t our goalie of the future, THE sens are extremely high on Chris Driedger. Brassard and Hogberg are no slouches either. Lehner might be thrown in if a big deal goes down.

      • SensFanInMTL

        Monsieur. Driedger & Brassard will be beasts one day. But they are 19 years old, maybe 20. They’re years away from even backing up. Now we have to ride with Lehner. Or Anderson.

        • Jacques

          You can always get a back up, or Lawson in Bingo is really quite good!

  • Roar…

    This season’s gamble was that Cowen + Wiercioch were able to be consistent steady top 4 defenders. Well guess what, they aren’t. Cowen, Gryba & Phillips have completely shit the bed all year. It’s a hard thing to fix in-season without paying an arm and a leg. The team needs to go out and get two veteran defenders who can actually play the game at a high level.

    Wiercioch has been okay, but he’s best put on a 3rd pairing at this point. Cowen has been a trainwreck. It’s getting hard to justify even 3rd pairing minutes for him. Gryba is just Gryba. He’s a completely replaceable 7th defender. Frankly he’s not even that good of one.

    Call a spade a spade. Sens just aren’t that good. They are a few years development and a couple quality T4 defenders away from being a much better team. Unfortunately our glorious owner decided the team wasn’t worth the money and we fans are suffering the consequences. Do you think they shit the bed this bad if we still had Gonchar? I doubt it. We didn’t want to pay the man or anyone else not named Corvo to take his place, and maybe rightfully so, but this is the result. Management gambled on our young defense and most likely it will bite us in the ass with a missed playoff berth.

    Not that it matters. Pens or Boston would wipe the floor with us. They aren’t ready yet and they won’t be until we get serious and actually put the pieces in place to be a contender. We have a lot of great pieces, but we have massive holes in this lineup that need to be addressed. It’s very clear what we’ve ignored.

    Just look at how Team Canada won gold. It wasn’t because we had the best goal scorers. It was because the defense was more or less impregnable and elite. That’s how you win championships and win in the playoffs.

    • sprucesens

      agree with most of it, other than the fact that you think gonchar would make this team better.

      • Roar…

        Gonchar knows our system and played just fine in a top 4 role last year. He’d easily make this team better. Like it or not he’s much better than what we’re playing. I didn’t say he’d be my ideal choice. Ference was the guy I really wanted us to go and get.

  • KJ

    Looks like the Sens are still vacationing … Ug

  • sprucesens

    i seriously don’t see how people keep defending cowen. If not for his high draft status, he wouldn’t have even been on the team yet. He makes every linemate he play’s with worse, and you can watch forwards skate directly towards him, so they can just blast past him. And they dont’ have to be a fast player to do it. mindboggling

    • Jacques

      Poor gryba was a plus will be a minus soon playing with the headless chicken , who dat oh number 2

  • luckan20

    Wiercioch is still not ready according to knuckle head PM. However, he feels Cowen is fully ready.

    • Roar…

      Cowen’s playing because of his contract. Literally no other reason. They can’t send him down to the AHL or he’d be there already. They don’t have many options. Frankly they should learn to lie a little and send Cowen for a “conditioning stint” in the AHL to get his shit together. Realistically he should have been insulated this year and he wasn’t. This is managements fault for not going and getting what they needed two. A couple actually competent T4 defenders. Everyone on the planet could see Phillips was done last year. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to look at this teams defense and expect disaster. It’s two competent players, a bunch of young too green players, and over the hill vets who’s best days are long behind them. Best possible thing for this team is to see some of the dead weight moved at the deadline. Young guys come up and will guaranteed be better. Borocop is easily better than half the guys we play each and every night.

      • xiorcal

        I tought Boro and Ceci where going to be in the lineup together at the beginning of the season before they went and got Corvo and I still think this pairing should be in the lineup now.

  • CUP 2014-15

    LOL, Got blown out in the first and the seasons over, Some fans are such a freaken joke.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Question for you though… what has this team done this season to make you believe they can make the playoffs? The defense and goaltending have been sub-par all season long. Do you honestly believe they can turn it around?

      • Moudy Mahfouz

        easy answer, they have stayed in the playoff race

        • Colin

          Wrong. Every time this team has pushed itself within a point of a playoff spot, they shit themselves. Do these guys look like they can win 70% of their remaining games? I love this team, but they are far from being a playoff contender this year.

          • SENSsmile

            Some people are in denial.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    are people really giving up on the season? lmao you guys arent fans. there is something called a winning streak. I understand how this game is a big one but geez you cant just give up like that. I still think we will be there.

    • Roar…

      Define giving up? I’ve been watching this trainwreck all year. This is not a Stanley Cup team. I want to win championships not toil in mediocrity. I’m still going to watch the games and support the team. I just know when to call a spade a spade. Get off your high horse and stop being such a dickhead. The defense on this team is not good. It hasn’t been good all year. This is just more of the same. It’s not “1 game” it’s nearing 60. This team’s back end is Karlsson + Methot and a bunch of guys who either are developed enough to play the role they’ve been cast in or are frankly done as hockey players at the NHL level.

  • Tyler Oakman

    hey guys, it’s not over until the buzzer goes. 4 goals down? 1 goal every 10 minutes.

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      or 4 goals in 10 minutes just like detroit. Aint over till its over.

  • Andrews theory

    Last two games haven’t exactly been stellar…

  • karlssens

    Lehner looks so bad

  • CUP 2014-15

    Cowen and Gryba on a bad change, lol

    • SensFanInMTL

      Are you kidding? Again the are being liable? Man I gotta head back to the TV.

      • CUP 2014-15

        sarcasm

  • sprucesens

    HAHA i click play on my stream, and its 5-0 GREAT

    why the hell isn’t titanfall out yet so i can go do something better..??

  • Andrews theory

    There is one quality top 4 defenseman currently very much available.

    Pull the trigger and bring in Girardi or sell off the vets you can and ride out the season

  • FistsofNeil25

    Embarrassing. If you can’t play defense you can’t be successful in this league.

  • Jacques

    Franzen holy crap he might pot 7 tonight.

  • Roar…

    I’d love to know who legitimately believes a Stanley Cup winning team has the names Phillips, Gryba, or Cowen playing top 4 minutes. At best, all 3 are the 6th-7th guy on a team that has a realistic shot. Most people writing up those teams would only have Cowen playing as the 6-7th because the other guys really aren’t that good.

    • Jacques

      Cowen would be
      5/6 in Bingo!

  • sprucesens

    HAHAHAHA

  • sprucesens

    COWENNNNNNNNNN FTW

    • SensFanInMTL

      I saw the missed lunge. Then the puck was behind the line. Qu’est t’en pense?

      • sprucesens

        sorry i don’t speak french. actually, i pieced together grade 9 french class…
        je ne parle pas francais…? is that correct?

        • SensFanInMTL

          Sorry, force of habit. I always assume everyone is perfectly bilingual and forget that there are Sens fans from other provinces. But come on! The guy tried! I’m referring to Cowen’s lunge of course.

      • Jacques

        Y fait dure Cowen!

        • SENSsmile

          En hostie!

  • Michenator

    Lehner’s a joke.

    • Jacques

      It’s not Lehner’s fault.

      • Colin

        Well, he sure hasn’t helped

        • Jacques

          I find that he doesn’t move well enough laterally. That’s why Driedger is the goalie of the future trust me.

        • xiorcal

          The puck was going the other way. Gryba was following god knows what. One more time they left a guy alone and send the puck is way.

      • Millennium

        Oh come on, I love Lehner, but he hasn’t helped tonight at all. Sure Cowen’s got the blame on that play, but Lehner needs to make that save. He’s having a bad game. It happens.

      • Michenator

        I’d say two or even three of them he could of had.

    • xiorcal

      No blame on him there.

  • SensFanInMTL

    I am at a complete lost for words.

  • Jacques

    Cowen is a farce!

  • FistsofNeil25

    Oh my god. Cowen plays the body instead of the puck and Lehner is caught sleeping again.

    • sprucesens

      he played the boards, not the body. the body never got touched, it just walked past him, as usual

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    GO COWEN GO GO COWEN GO

  • xiorcal

    Nice to see Walrus stoping Lehner to speak with him.

  • Millennium

    “Hammond, great news! You’re getting your first NHL game!! Congrats!!”

    “Uh, no thanks guys…I’d rather not….”

    • Jacques

      Yeah really!

  • Cicero

    I love the heart these guys have — fighting for the puck no matter what. (Prob should clarify: our Sens that is…)

  • karlssens

    Cowen needs to sit next game for Weircioch.. There’s no other option.

    • sprucesens

      yes please, i’m paying 1500 to watch the next game outdoors, they better not play cowen top line minutes.

      • SensFanInMTL

        Are you in eastern Canada just curious?

        • sprucesens

          no edmonton

          • sprucesens

            woulda gone to both the vancouver outdoor game, and the game in edmonton like i normally do,but there were no flights home in time to see the edmonton game. so i chose to take my last vacation for a while, and go watch the first ever outdoor sens game.

          • SensFanInMTL

            I should be in your province looking for work as soon as Puempel & Lazar register their first points in wins that I will record and store for historical purposes. God willing they make the team.

          • sprucesens

            o, right on. good luck to you in that process, and hopefully both those guys are on the team!

          • SensFanInMTL

            What I meant was I am stuck living here and delaying to head out west just so I can be here physically to record the games of their first points when they eventually make the team! Anyhow, this is what happens when your team is facing an almost insurmountable odds, I create random topics not relevant to the game at hand!

  • xiorcal

    Stop putting money on free weiner and get us a defenceman.

    • Tyler Oakman

      wait.. what?

      • sprucesens

        eug was handing out hotdogs for 25 cents at the game

  • SensFanInMTL

    Hey do you guys remember the nights in 2011 when immediately following the respective games, when Fisher & Kelly were suddenly dealt? We are all on this particular site. Well….

    DO IT MURRAY!

    • xiorcal

      Not sure how he is going to trade Fisher and Kelly tonight?

      • SensFanInMTL

        I think you may have misread it my man.

        • xiorcal

          Not much to offer this year that a contender might want. Fisher and Kelly where good fits for a team going in the playoff.

          • SensFanInMTL

            Oh. Well I meant like, the way bodies were being shipped out back in 2011, I was hoping for the same perhaps immediately after tonight’s game!

    • http://www.crashthenet.ca/ Luc Wolfe

      We cant they were traded 3 years ago

  • Timothy Yolo Saikaley

    What how is it 6-1????????????????????

    • xiorcal

      Because 65+2 > 62+2

  • Cicero

    Hammond looks GREAT :D

  • FistsofNeil25

    Please Bryan, do no re-sign Chris Phillips. His time here has passed. I don’t care if you trade him, just don’t give him another contract.

  • sprucesens

    so….13-3 in our last 2 games… hmmm

    • Colin

      I guess the extended break didn’t mess with their rhythm.

  • BigDaddy

    Boys need to lay off Lehner, he is the future. I think we need to ship out Andie and roll with him for better or worse. When we make our cup run in the next two years or so it will be Lehner we have to put our hopes on. Also, if Chris Stewart is available and at a decent price I don’t seem how you pass. Even if we miss the playoffs he is a solid top six forward with term.

  • MakesSens

    Who is it that was defending Cowen in that “Should Ottawa Trade Jared Cowen” post? It sure as hell wasent me!!!

    • SensFanInMTL

      I kinda did. I just don’t want it to appear that he sucks here and we dealt him, then he tears it in another team we trade him for. It’s a gamble we will never find out.

  • Dmare085

    we aint getting in guys. these guys are a disgrace. cowen should be gone. why did we draft him again.

  • Millennium

    @ryanclassic 1m
    Jared Cowen has been on the ice for 10 of the last 13 goals against. In under 5 periods.

    • karlssens

      Just gotta laugh at this point

      • aegiszx

        He’ll get better they said, he’s going to be a rival to Chara they said…

        • SENSsmile

          Yup… let’s give him at least a thousand more chances to prove that he’s a future top four D.

      • FistsofNeil25

        Laugh? More like cry.

    • sprucesens

      wow. what a stat. does any player have worse in the history of the NHL? it might actually be hard to find that.

  • karlssens

    I feel so bad for karlsson.. Phillips and Cowen just aren’t nhl talent.

  • Cicero

    The Rangers scored 11 tonight.

  • Colin

    KIAs are for buffed hamsters. LOL!

  • xN1Cx

    Hammond is the future! I waited three weeks for this? I told my girlfriend to go to her aunts for dinner for THIS!!!

  • Millennium

    Dreger: In terms of Phillips, there’s a negotiation that’s ongoing between the Ottawa Senators and Phillips to keep him a lifer in Ottawa. If that doesn’t go well, if Phillips doesn’t like the offer that has been presented, then Bryan Murray may have to make a very difficult decision. There would be interest in Chris Phillips, a veteran player, very sound defensively, maybe he’s a good fit with the Boston Bruins.

    *Sigh

    • FistsofNeil25

      Very sound defensively? I guess Dreger doesn’t watch much Sens hockey.

  • luckan20

    Cowen is having some type of skating issue. His hip injury/surgery has done big damage to his hockey.

    • MoeDozer

      maybe brain damage as well

      • xiorcal

        Doctor from Toronto maybe

  • xN1Cx

    At least Hoffman is looking pretty good. Love that speed, it’s unreal!

    • PraiseAlfie11

      Ya…he sure showed when skating around the entire detroit zone just to pass it to a red wing.

      • xN1Cx

        He still did it really really quickly no?

        • PraiseAlfie11

          Super fast! :)

    • xiorcal

      I’m not the only one looking for something good in this game lol

  • xiorcal

    Methot and Karlsson are +1 in this game.

    • xN1Cx

      Makes sense lol

  • MoeDozer

    the sad thing is cowen’s value is spiraling downward. very, very fast. Our best hope is to bench him, see if he learns anything hope to god he plays like an average NHL dman. or BM works his magic and fools a team into taking him

    • karlssens

      He had value?

      • MoeDozer

        pre-lockout he did :)

    • FistsofNeil25

      The sad thing is he’s our second highest paid defenseman.

  • SensFanInMTL

    If Cowen sucks as much as we all say, then which team will be wanting to have him on theirs? He’s as good as AHL level from here on.

    • sprucesens

      the oilers for their 2nd or 3rd rounder..??

      • sprucesens

        they don’t have any D aside from ference signed for next year. they need someone to play, and cowen at least has potential. the rest of their D are duds

        • SensFanInMTL

          Cowen just looks like he’d be more comfortable in the west. I don’t know why. Is Nurse for Cowen too one-sided?

          • sprucesens

            yup

  • karlssens

    How do you guys feel? 5 pts back with 22 games left? Will be very though..maybe time to sell and collect a few solid picks.

    • xiorcal

      In a draft that ”expert” call poor?

    • sprucesens

      i’m fully on board. we all know we aren’t winning a cup this year. playoffs, maybe, maybe not. but we have a few prospects that need the chance to prove they belong, and a few guys that don’t have a future. we won’t get much back, but thats ok, as the core players are already there

      • SensFanInMTL

        Need the chance to prove they belong, eh?

        #26 & #27????

        • sprucesens

          hmm?

          • sprucesens

            lazar, puempel?

          • SensFanInMTL

            ……..

            YES!

            They will be our Carter & Richards. Or Getzlaf & Perry.

          • sprucesens

            hopefully, but i doubt they give a shot to lazar this year, for contract reasons. puempel, pageau, stone, hoffman, petersson, prince will all be on the forward lists, and claesson on the back. if we make room.

    • FistsofNeil25

      2015 picks?

  • SensFanInMTL

    When the boys are feeling it, they pump in the goals. It’s almost set in stone now that are too young in the back end. Time to retool, package, not sign and everything in between to turn the last 20 games around. I still believe.

  • sprucesens

    san jose beating philly 7-2.. so thats a plus

    • FistsofNeil25

      Yeah i was just looking at the out of town scoreboard as well. Columbus, Philly, Carolina, Montreal all losing. Rangers and Caps winning. Toronto tied.

  • aegiszx

    Murray better be on the phone right now…

    • sprucesens

      no. i hope he’s watching this joke. so he can see that we don’t need a pure rental. we need to ship some bodies out and give the rookies a shot.

      every single one of our callups has been excellent this year. SDC, stone, ceci, grant, boro, zib technically, and so far hammond has been good. Pageau was the only one who was maybe less than expected.

  • SensFanInMTL

    The beauty of trade deadline and I’ve noticed it in the last couple of years, is that, Murray will always pull the trigger to enhance his team. I can almost feel he will do so in 6 days. Six…. long …. days.

  • Laurence Babchyuk

    We have a great team ! the solution is Super simple we only have 2 stains on the club and that is Spezza and Phillips when they were gone.. we were pesky and we compete every games. Since Spezza is back we’re back at being a .500 club ! coincidence ? absolutely not. Other then that, this club is totally great cause we have Good goaltending “Except tonight’s lehner’s shitting the bed” we have Good Centers, Turris and Zbad, We have good Defence, Karlsson, Methot, Gryba, Cowen. And we have some good wingers like Ryan, McArthur and Michalek. Add 2 more wingers to that and one more good Defence and we have a contending team. We need to be pesky and that’s how we will win.

    • Disqus Downvote

      Downvoted!

      • Laurence Babchyuk

        meh, you can downvote, but it’s a fact. We don’t win with the spezz

        • FistsofNeil25

          You almost had me until you said that Cowen is a good defenseman… Gryba isn’t that good either.

          • Laurence Babchyuk

            Well yesterday he was terrible, is Cowen better then Phillips ? Yes cause he has potential. He’s trying hard and he might become a cornerstone for this defence. Methot and king Karl are our best defensemen. Gryba plays physical but his bad with his first pass. Cowen we need to be patient with him… A dmen takes time.

  • xiorcal

    If there’s a line brawl in the third who is going to fight Alfie?

    • sprucesens

      cowen. he’d lose, and we would cheer

    • SensFanInMTL

      Melnyk. Or Sparty.

      • xiorcal

        I can picture Melnyk jumping on the ice lol

  • SensFanInMTL

    The fact that it’s 6-1 we’re losing and not 2-1 or 3-1 almost makes me believe that Murray is on his phone as we speak.

    #BelieveInTheShield

    • xiorcal

      At 2-1 or 3-1 he is thinking: I need a Power foward for Spezz.
      At 6-1 he is thinking: I need 2 power foward for Spezz.

    • Laurence Babchyuk

      I hope it’s the case, this season is not done yet

  • Richard Gough

    I am getting ready to Jump ship for the season if Murray can’t get this garbage team fixed

    Two + week rest and they pick up from where they left off in Boston by having there asses handed to them again .
    (So fucking mad ) lol

    • SensFanInMTL

      I stopped believing you were mad when you laughed out loud, lol.

      • Richard Gough

        Believe me I am so pissed right now

        • Tyler Oakman

          HOW BAD BRO?? lolerskatezzzzz

  • Colin

    Cowen has the lowest TOI among the D. About time.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Lowest TOI and he’s still managed to be a -7353538

    • sprucesens

      how is that even possible? Everytime i look up, the puck is in the net and cowen is on the ice!

  • xN1Cx

    At least the Raptors are pulling off a stunner!

  • sprucesens

    hey sensfaninMTL, interesting to note about #26 and 27, a reason i use whenever i make a player in NHL games. I use those numbers because its the last year the sens won the cup!

    • SensFanInMTL

      And that was the old Sens team! So imagine, we technically have never won the damn Cup!

      • sprucesens

        yup, i always use it as some sort of good luck number, and the coming of the next cup!

  • CUP 2014-15

    Potvin just said the Mule has 8 goals in 2 games V the Lehner

  • chief

    Captain invisible

  • FistsofNeil25

    The Hoffman-Zibanejad-Ryan line has been the only one to generate any scoring chances tonight. They’ve looked good. Everyone else has sucked balls.

    • sprucesens

      turris has been good too. but the rest have looked rusty. o well. 2-1 or 6-1. its 2 points. unfortunately, thats what we said last game. so they better switch that soon

  • chief

    Kesler for spezza anyone

    • sprucesens

      nah, we could get someone better for spezz

  • xiorcal

    need one goal every 3 minutes now

    • xiorcal

      Then again you need to shot to get goals

  • FistsofNeil25

    What the hell is Phillips always pointing at?!?! I really find it hard to believe that Wiercioch could possibly be any worse than Cowen, Gryba or Phillips, yet he’s a regular healthy scratch.

  • SensFanInMTL

    Of course we’re drawing powerplays now. The damn refs even feel sorry for how bad we are losing.

  • PraiseAlfie11

    I just want to see if this thread has everyone getting traded by the time a new post goes up ;)

    • illdistrict

      Spezza capitalizes on opportunities, but he doesn’t create them..

  • Colin

    Bush stuff by Franzen. hat trick and up by 5 and still cheap shotting

  • FistsofNeil25

    Now the guys are really showing their frustration. Try not to embarrass yourselves any further fellas.

  • SensFanInMTL

    I have always hated Franzen and wished someone would’ve just broke his face. I would love nothing more than that the second he steps back on.

    • sprucesens

      ha, you almost got your wish

  • Cicero

    Trade Karlsson. He makes Cowen look bad.

  • FistsofNeil25

    I’m really liking Hoffman tonight. He’s been our best player. He’s had a couple turnovers and he’s jumped offside a couple times but man he’s worked hard and he probably had more scoring chances than the rest of the team combined.

    • Cicero

      Silver Lining Award for sure!

  • sprucesens

    hoffman looking really solid tonight. hope they keep him up for the rest of the season and on to next year

  • karlssens

    Hoffman the example of a good kid who paid his dues and earned his full time spot on the big team. Make room for him.

  • sens88

    Franzen is scum

    • SENSsmile

      Let’s be honest: he probably wouldn’t be scum if he were wearing a Sens jersey.

  • SensFanInMTL

    And that’s why I love Neil. He will always be a champ throughout the organization. Little angry at Neil though for not continuing.

    p.s. Hoffman is absolutely killing it.

    • xiorcal

      one more punch and he was in suspension territory

      • SensFanInMTL

        I don’t care at this point man. We’re not in contention at the moment and the only thing stopping Neil from breaking Franzen’s face is Neil. He didn’t want to go to jail.

        • Richard Gough

          So what is the deal on Franzen ?

          • SensFanInMTL

            He is in dire need of getting hurt, real badly.

          • Richard Gough

            What happened ?

          • SensFanInMTL

            You didn’t watch the game? Anyway, Wings are winning and Franzen thought it’d be cool to stir shit up, even when things were going DET’s way. Anyway, he’s a punk ass bitch and always has been.

  • QSenFan

    Let the next phase of the rebuild begin. At the deadline, Phillips, Michalek, Corvo. After the season, Cowan, Spezza

    • Richard Gough

      I hope makes those trade before Sunday since the team will be out west next week

  • FistsofNeil25

    If Maclean doesn’t make Cowen a healthy scratch for Sunday’s game in Vancouver then I give up.

  • illdistrict

    Condra sucks. he made Turris+Mac look bad.

    Hoffman had a good game.

    d corps was brutal today.

    • FistsofNeil25

      And the captain was invisible.

      • SENSsmile

        …again.

  • Conor_smythe

    Season = officially over

    The last 2 sens games/last 3 Detroit games were pivotal

    Now its too late.. we wont make playoffs.

    Im not happy about this but I wont deny it either… season is toast

    • FistsofNeil25

      Definitely not with that rag-tag group of defensemen and obvious lack of leadership.

  • karlssens

    Going to be a busy offseason.. 3 defensemen needed..

  • http://www.crashthenet.ca/ Luc Wolfe

    seasons not over, until we are officially eliminated.

    Cowen and Phillips fan, you should go get paper bags and hide…. like forever, Phillips deserve a trade for a shot at the cup, but please don’t comeback. Cowen, i didn’t like you missing the training camp and I’ll leave it from here, I think you need a change, your digging yourself here.

    As for Melnyk, trade should of been done in November when the first struggles started. I wish we could fire the owner…

    as for Stewart, i’m not very interested, unless its for Cowen.

    as for Tonight, I’m very sad for every sens fan. Seriously this sucks.

    Resume of this post: Get Rid of Cowen!

  • Floridasensfan

    Screw it start pulling the pin on trades, get some more guys like Hoffman a shot.
    Easily our best player tonight, Good on Hammond tonight first game in the NHL and letting nothing in.
    Some say Cowen will turn around, not sure I would take that bet, I am all for Scratch Cowen at this point.
    Brutal game
    Blew two games in one, 4 points lost.

  • MoeDozer

    Ian Mendes ‏@ian_mendes 1m
    Strange, but true: The Senators won their two games in Detroit 6-1 and 4-2. The Red Wings won their two games in Ottawa 6-1 and 4-2.

  • SensFanInMTL

    Nothing yet on the trade front eh.

  • MoeDozer

    not sure what BM is thinking in terms of direction we go this year buy or sell.

    whatever we do i hope we see a repeat of late 2011 after trading pieces and seeing young bingo rookies hungry and compete hard.
    hoffman stays here, let guys like DD, Grant, Da Costa, Petersson, Puempel hell even bring back JOB.
    condra and greening are barely 3rd line players on any NHL team. why they get so much top 6 chances is mind blowing to me.

    there is no secret to why we suck.
    chris phillips plays on the top PP unit.

    Methot is the only vet Dman that leads by example. i have no complaints or issues on Ceci nor Gryba. both are proving they belong on this club.

    Team Canada in the past olympics showed what a textbook dominant hockey team should look like. big, tough, fast, smart. most importantly, every single player is responsible and can be trusted at almost any situation on the ice.

    i can only trust turris, mac, milo, ryan, zibby, smith, methot, gryba, ceci at almost any situation 9/22 is not good.

    • illdistrict

      totally agree. condra and greening have lost all intensity.

  • SlickRick

    Just watching the Flames/Kings game…wow. I’m hoping people are not expecting 4 easy points from those 2 games against the Flames…they’ll have to earn those points for sure.
    Still believe Cowen is injured…like forever! No rentals, only hockey trades please (unless we are selling rentals)
    p.s. Took100%correct is a bag washer

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    Clearly we are sellers
    Retool for next year by dumping michalek, phillips, conacher, and cowen
    GSG

    • Jacques

      And Spezza, give this team to TUrris.

  • MoeDozer

    I think a major issue is special teams and our overall team toughness. we are 3rd in the league in hits..but all we do is complain on how soft every player is on every other shift.

    we are also 28th in the league in blocked shots.
    last year we ended 6th in hits. and 24th in blocked shots. so that clearly isnt the issue

    this year we are the 2nd most penalized team with a 20th PK % in the league.
    last year we were the 10th most penalized team but we had the number 1 PK% in the league

    this year we are 12th in PP opportunities with 14th best PP in the league
    Last year we were 17th in PP opportunities with 20th best PP in league

    special teams can kill or create huge momentum.

    we seriously need to take a good look and potentially move on from whoever is in charge of not just the style of PP/PK we play but who is on the ice during them

  • Mat

    I’ve been to more than 100 games and this is the first time I’ve left before the end. What an embarrassment! I wish I spent the $330 on Rogers House instead.

    WTF is PMac doing this year?!?

    This team is unquestionably a seller.
    Playoffs is a major pipe dream. Like many have said, any trade should involve a player with term, no rental.

    And Buh bye MM9, Buh bye CP04, Buh bye PW46, Buh bye CC89. Let the Bingo kids play.

  • SenaTHOR

    Just looked at the goals and correct me if I’m wrong.

    Goal 1 Ceci gets TRICKED and falls for the old “Hey Codi its me”

    Goal 2. Cowen loses the race into his own end and gives up possession.
    Cowen loses position to Datsuk and Gryba steps in to cover.
    Franson gets the pass on the backside. Snipe

    Goal 3.Detroit gets possession in Ottawa zone
    Gryba lays down and takes the pass away to the open man infront.
    Detroit player circles higher feeds the pass in the slot, Gryba is too far from it the Detroit player misses it, McArthur misses it. Franzon is wide open. Snipe

    Goal 4 Condra goes on a flyby by Kromwell who steps around him.
    This creates a 2 on 1 with Gryba. Gryba blocks the shot it ricochets to Jurco who snipes it in.

    Goal 5 Ceci gets outmuscled ,puck is chipped to Franzon who walks in from a bad angle and snipes top glove as Lehner plays a pass for some reason.

    Goal 6 Cowen get beat to the corner, misses a hit , loses position and stands there as Tatar skates away from him. Gryba is in front looking for another man to cover but it is only a 2 on 5 down low. Tatar snipes top glove again.

  • NOBODY can play with Spezza

    Montreal traded Plante
    Boston traded Orr
    Edmonton traded Gretzky
    Pittsburgh traded Jagr
    Columbus traded Nash

    IT’S NOW TIME FOR OTTAWA TO TRADE SPINNER SPEZZA

    • Richard Gough

      AMEN. !!!

    • Disqus Downvote

      Every loss is Spezza’s fault! Clueless!

  • Dirk-Diggler

    This team is not a contender this season. We are a borderline playoff team. I hope that the management doesn’t do anything crazy and go for a high priced rental. What they need to do is lose a few veterans and bring in the kids.

    Trade Neil to a contender, for some reason people like guys like Neil and pay for them…

    Trade Phillips so that he can try and win a cup…

    Trade Michalek because he doesn’t really help our team!

    Keep Spezza… We need to get to the cap floor!

    • Laurence Babchyuk

      Keep Neil, he’s our true leader and you need a player like that in the playoffs
      Trade michalek: but we need a return since we don’t have wingers
      Trade Phillips : Yes please !!!!
      Trade Spezza : for the same reason you want to trade MM9 but with the trade go get a top 6 winger.

      Then voila we have a pesky team that no one wants to face in the playoffs.

      We had that team last year (without spezza) and we were awesome. Karlsson was out and we made the playoffs and we destroyed the Habs. Spezza came back and we didn’t compete vs pitsburgh ( we lost our peskyness )could we have beat the pens without Spezza ? Maybe… Maybe not but we would’ve been pesky and made it tougher for them that is for sure!

      • RUSH RLZ

        Yes. Neil is a key piece in my opinion as well.

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