Game Day- Senators Aim for Fourth Straight Win

SensChirp November 12, 2013 365
Game Day- Senators Aim for Fourth Straight Win

With wins over Columbus, Montreal and Florida in their back pocket, the Ottawa Senators go looking for their fourth straight victory tonight against the Philadelphia Flyers.

Despite the rock solid play of Robin Lehner over the last three games, Head Coach Paul MacLean will go back to his number one guy. After suffering a scary looking injury against the Dallas Stars back on November 3, Craig Anderson is healthy and ready to return.

While some may question the decision to sit the NHL’s First Star of the Week, Anderson is still this team’s starting goalie and needs to get back in the net. If he falters, Lehner is there, ready to take over the reins. It really is a win-win situation for the Senators.

The Flyers have been a mess in the early going this season but are coming off a 4-2 win over the Edmonton Oilers on Saturday night. Even with that win, the Flyers still find themselves with just 11 points through 16 games. They sit just four points clear of last place in the Eastern Conference.

The Senators were on the ice for practice yesterday and did a little more juggling of the lines. The top trio of MacArthur-Turris-Ryan remained intact while Jason Spezza found himself on line with Milan Michalek and Cory Conacher. I thought Zibanejad looked pretty good against the Panthers on Saturday afternoon but he finds himself back on the fourth line with Kassian and Grant.

(UPDATE 11:17 AM)- Chris Phillips missed the morning skate and is being called a game time decision. If he can’t go, it seems like both Patrick Wiercioch and Joe Corvo would draw into the line up.  We’ll have to wait until game time to know for sure.  Here is how they looked at the morning skate.

MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
Michalek-Spezza-Conacher
Greening-Smith-Neil
Kassian-Grant-Zibanejad

Cowen-Karlsson
Wiercioch-Corvo
Borowiecki-Methot

Puck drop is scheduled for just after 7:30 PM.

The Daily Chirp- The Ottawa Senators have certainly made some calls about adding a defenceman, as Elliotte Friedman points out in his column this week, and as I’ve mentioned on the site a couple times in the last two weeks. What Friedman left out however is that dreaded “B” word. The Senators are currently over budget so any move would have to see money going out the door and not just coming in. Shouldn’t come as any surprise really as that’s the reality of the current financial situation in Ottawa. And based on all the empty seats I’ve seen at the CTC lately, it’s not going to change any time soon.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Paul Maclean should be playing Robin Lehner.

  • RUSH RLZ

    Stupid B word, frig! Do the hockey gods not know how well poised we are to make a Cup run if only we had the sheckles to use! I hope some gazillionaire owner swoops in to save us.

  • Sicilian

    Unfortunately, we’re always going to be a budget hockey team unless we hit oil in Gatineau park…

    Is that Methot trying to hit Schenn or just falling into the boards?

  • thepez

    It was reported earlier that the Sens were in the top three in giving away freebies. Has this policy changed and the crowds now are the real paying fans rather than the inflated numbers they had before?

    • SensChirp

      Definitely a factor.

    • T K

      I’ve heard that the Sens give away lots of tickets but I’ve never seen real evidence of this. The account managers that I’ve dealt with have always been very cheap. In the past 5 years, I’ve only managed to extract one pair of free tickets from them.

      • TookieIs100PercentRight

        I’ve seen it. My friend works at CNA (Canadian Nurses Association) and they had seasons and usually got at least 4-6 extra tickets for “bad games”, I.e. Panthers, Islanders, Blue Jackets and they nabbed extra tickets as well for the Leafs/Habs so other fans would not.
        On top of that TK, just check out Team 1200. Previous years? 2-4 pairs of tickets per day every day. This year? Zero. Nada. Zilch. Rien. They’ve clamped down thinking people will just buy the remainder, but they’ve forgotten two things:
        1)Ottawans are cheap and won’t spend when they can get freebies;
        2)Alfie leaving, Melnyk money circus left a bad taste in people’s mouths and they are answering the only way they know how by staying home.
        TOOKS100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Robert Cyr

    Coach is still experimenting with line combinations, by using another player to play with
    Spezza. So, we will see Michalek – Spezza – Conacher. I thought Zibanejad was fitting in
    very well on RW, so to see him drop to Line 4 was surprising.

    If Cory Conacher does not get going, we might just see a switch with Zibanejad.

    We might also see Wiercioch , replaced by either Corvo or Gryba paired with Phillips.

    GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Snoopy Senior

  • Aaron 2.0

    If the ‘best players play’ how does the coach justify not playing the 1st star of the week?

    • SensChirp

      Can’t lose your spot to injury. Lehner will get back in there soon.

      • Aaron 2.0

        Meh. Lehner was the better goaltender this year before Anderson’s injury anyways. He just wasn’t getting any goal support.

        • SensChirp

          It’s nothing against Lehner. He has been excellent. Anderson is the starter though.

          • Aaron 2.0

            I guess we just have different opinions on this one. Anderson only has 1 more year on his contract after this one, and only makes 3 million a year. With that structure in mind, I don’t think we really need to have a “number 1″ right now. It’s not like we’d be sitting a 7 million cap hit in Anderson. And, if Lehner is suppose to be ready in 2 years time then he needs to play more than 10-20 games a season. Right now, Lehner gives us the best chance to win. I get that MacLean is trying to avoid a goaltender controversy. But, I just don’t see it as an issue in Ottawa. We’re not in the same situation as Luongo/Schneider.

  • Jason

    I’m glad they have Kassian in the lineup for tonight, Philly will be a physical team so hopefully Kassian brings it for his 4minutes of ice time. Would probably make sense to have Gryba in the lineup tonight instead of Wiercoch too.
    Anyways, I think Lehner will get the start against Boston unless Anderson puts up a shutout tonight.

  • Robert Cyr

    @ Aaron 2.0

    Agree with you that Lehner played 3 great games, but the fact remains that the team in front of him also played great .

    Anderson’s now back in, and he did not lose some of the previous games all by himself ,
    as the team in front of him simply sucked, and allowed around 50 shots on goal.

    Please quit outcoaching the Coach and enjoy the game with whoever is the starter !!

    GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Snoopy Senior

    • Aaron 2.0

      I don’t really think you can make the argument that Anderson has faced higher quality of competition than Lehner this year, or that the defense was all that great in front of Lehner. I just don’t get the coaching decision, but i’ll still enjoy the game! I’m not really sure what we are suppose to talk about before a game, if not the starting lineup …

      • http://www.Merchaholic.ca Merchaholic

        Yeah, I never understand it. If they play better with Lehner… play Lehner? Simple.

  • Guess Who

    So Andy is starting…so much for a Lehner-Emery fight.

    • http://www.Merchaholic.ca Merchaholic

      Don’t worry, an Anderson-Emery fight will be just as good.

      • Tooks

        Umm ya….no. You thought Emery had his way with Holtby, Anderson wouldnt stand a chance in hell!

        • Doc

          *sigh*

  • SensChirp

    No Chris Phillips at the morning skate.

    • boom

      Hopefully the Mayo Clinic called – they found a donor for his long awaited hands transplant…

  • Hax

    Best take on the Anderson start I’ve heard (besides the simple fact that he’s the #1) was Ward-o on TSN1200 this morning. Basically, if you’re on #TeamLehner, think of it this way: We have the Bruins on Friday and if Lehner was actually our #1 he might get tonight off anyway to rest up for a big divisional match up, letting the backup play against the lowly Flyers.

    Another good point too is that despite how much Dana White might want to see it, an Emery-Lehner fight would be the dumbest thing in the world for the Sens. Though I bet Lehner could hold his own, nothing gained by him breaking a hand or getting suspended.

  • Hax

    OT but a good laugh:

    DoTheLeafsStillSuck? @LeafsSuckIt 5m
    Last O6 cup captains. One has aged a lot more.

    • Tooks

      Well, its not much better for us. Do we have anyone left from our 1927 cup win?

      • JBL11

        “Francis Arthur Clarence “The Shawville Express” Finnigan (July 9, 1903–December 25, 1991) was a Canadian ice hockey professional forward who played in theNational Hockey League (NHL) from 1923 to 1937. During this time, he played for the Ottawa Senators, Toronto Maple Leafs, and St. Louis Eagles, and was nicknamed the “Shawville Express.” His younger brother Eddie Finnigan also played in the NHL. His daughter Joan Finnigan became a published writer. He was the last surviving member of the 1927 Stanley Cup champion Senators.” Great nickname. Thank god for wikipedia…

        • Tooks

          I meant alive…as the topic refers to.

          • RUSH RLZ

            Did you read what was posted? “He was the last surviving member of the 1927 Stanley Cup champion Senators.”

          • Tooks

            Yes so why post it then, we were talking about ALIVE.

          • RUSH RLZ

            Holy shit Tookie. You ASK if anyone from that roster is alive, someone posts the answer and you are still arguing about it. Medication time.

            Quote: “Do we have anyone left from our 1927 cup win?”

          • Tooks

            The answer to that would have been …….no.

          • JBL11

            Alright then….no. Figured I would indicate who the last surviving member was. No need to get all fired up…

          • Tooks

            No thats was good, I didnt know he was the last surviving member. Good info!

          • RUSH RLZ

            I thought that was a fascinating bit of info. Thanks!

          • Hax

            And you wonder why people brand you a leaf fan? Why are you turning an anti-leaf joke into a platform to rip on the Sens org?

          • Tooks

            I didnt, you guys made it go that way, all I asked was if we had any members left of our Cup run.

            Then the wolves attacked!! lol

          • Michenator

            Really not fair to compare a team that didn’t exist in there for how long…65 years?

      • Hax

        Of course not, but we also had a few years where we weren’t in the league if you’ll recall. We’ve only had 26 seasons played since our last cup. No where near the 45 the leafs have.

        • Tooks

          Well ya I know that, we couldnt afford a team, much like now!
          45 is terrible but 26 aint much better, lol. Both are bad!

          • Hax

            Don’t know why I bother but:

            The original team played 6 seasons after winning the cup and were pretty bad for sure. The current version has played 20 seasons, many of those early years we were bad like any expansion team and most of the recent recent years we’ve been better than average. No cup of course but given it’s a 30 team league now even an average team would go 29 years between cups. So it’s not like it was 26 years straight of gradually building a team. Not like the 45 years of being the richest team in the NHL.

            And if you still really think 26 aint much different than 45 maybe you’d be willing to trade a few stocks and bonds.

          • Tooks

            I guess the better question is who wins the Cup first. If TOR wins it first, what excuses will people come up with…
            If OTT wins it first, the Laffs keep the title of laughing stock of the NHL.

      • aegiszx

        Alright but to be fair, I think we’ve had much more success than the Leafs post-expansion era.

        The fact of the matter is, the Leafs won the Cup in a 6 team era. The ODDS of winning, were much much greater back then. You listen to any of the previous Cup winners 50′s-90s, and even they will tell you that it is much harder to get to the finals post 90s.

        • Tooks

          Not this again…Do you remember the losses to the Leafs in the playoffs…They have like a near perfect record vs us.

          But we have a Cup appearance.

          • aegiszx

            Not discrediting those by any means but if you compare our two records post 90s… we have a Cup appearance, 1 President’s Trophy, 1 Conference Championship, 4 Division Titles…

          • Tooks

            Oh yeah I agree, individually we have had much more success, evident by your stats, I was speaking HTH.

            To me success is only measured with Cups. We need a damn Cup before they get one. Or else this city will explode and we will always be younger brother.

          • Hax

            Leafs have never won a conference championship or president’s trophy. Leafs have never won more than 11 games in a single post season (Sens have won 13).

          • TookieIs100PercentRight

            The only thing that matters is the Cup really.
            How many division banners did the Bruins have prior to their recent Cup? Dozens. They were still losers. Same with Philly. The rest are just comfort blankets to tide over the fans with hope until the team takes the next step.
            TOOKS100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • IcySurfas

    Sorry if this has been talked about already…

    So Lehner named NHL First Star of last Week …. posting a 3-0-0 record, 1.33 GAA, and a .958 Save %. I feel a little guilty for being caught off guard on this. I remember how great Lehner played in some of the early (western) road trip games … putting up ridiculous save numbers …. however I was nervous at times last week that the Sens would “blow it” (especially in the Saturday game against Florida – yeeeesssh) that I didnt stop to think how great Lehner was playing for us.

    Scary to think that for years the Sens had mediocre goaltending in the “graveyard” as they called it … and then suddenly a good draft pick (Lehner) and 2 unbelievable trades (Andy from Avs and Bishop from Blues) later … we were suddenly in a position last year of having “too many” good goaltenders, hence the Bishop trade to Tampa.

    Anderson is loved in this city … there is no arguement there. But I think Lehner is (down the not-so-far-ahead road) going to become a real FAN Favorite on this team.

    P.s. Did you all see Lehner in the Habs game when he got his masked knocked off and he was standing up too (well …staring down at) the Habs players in the crease. It was ALL in the EYES ! Scary shit!

    Game night tonight …. I think we will see a Philly team that’s much better than their stats show so far. Should be a good game !

    Cheers Sens FANS!

    • don bob ray jim ed dan jim

      G-O-A-L-I-E C-O-N-T-R-O-V-E-R-S-Y

      • Hax

        LOL – not even a little one. In fact, this is a perfect situation to help continue Lehner’s development. Both in terms of on-ice skill and in terms of mentality. By the time we move Anderson out (this summer at the earliest, maybe even summer 2015 if we manage a cup run next year) Lehner will be hungry and ready to be our #1 for years and years.

        • Tooks

          I agree, Lehner will have his time and it starts as soon as next year. Andy in the last leg of his deal will be traded in the off season to give Lehner the camp to be #1…
          OR
          Anderson is traded at the deadline 2014 for some pieces to help up make a serious run in 2015.

  • http://www.Merchaholic.ca Merchaholic

    So why was Lehner so pissed in that gif I see of him staring the Hab down and spitting. I can’t read his lips lol.

    • don bob ray jim ed dan jim

      He spoke an ancient Viking curse

      Rough translation is
      “As the hammer of Thor is unliftable, so shall I be unmovable!”

    • Tooks

      Gallagher ran him over good. Then MaxPac came in and Lehner gave him the stare down and the FU-bomb.

  • SensChirp

    So Chris Phillips is being called a game time decision with an undisclosed injury.

    My guess is that undisclosed injury is hangover after last night’s Gongshow Beer launch at Big Rig Brewery :)

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      Let him rest up as long as it takes, we’re better with Corvo or Wier in the line-up.

  • my2sens

    Side question I would like to ask Sens fans.

    With so many empty seats at the CTC lately, why is that you do/ don’t attend?

    • Terry

      I live in Calgary. So it takes planning and more money.

    • SenaWalrus

      What kind of answers are you expecting?

      What if someone posts something like:

      “I’m a fan but I don’t want to spend my hard earned money on expensive tickets and fight through bad traffic and parking to watch the game when I can watch for free in the comfort of my own home.”

      Then everyone on this board will jump on them saying they are NOT a “real” fan…. or whatever. That if you don’t have a valid excuse like living somewhere else, or are a student, then suddenly you are less of a fan.

      • my2sens

        I was simply curious is all. I don’t think any less of someone for not attending and wouldn’t call them less of fan as well.

        This is my first year fighting the traffic and hateful parking to go to my 20 games…

        • SenaWalrus

          Perhaps not you, but based on previous comments on this thread from some posters, living in Ottawa and not attending means you are not a fan.

          Someone even suggested that people you eat less to save money to spend on tickets…

    • FBP

      I’ve attended and paid for two games so far this year. I’ll probably do two more (during the regular season).

      I’ve had half seasons the last couple of years, but it takes too long to get back and forth to CTC for me (using OC Transpo) for week night games.

      The main reason I’ve discontinued my halfs isn’t the arena location necessarily, but the terrible OC Transpo service (buses always late, not coming at all on a couple of occasions). It makes for a stressful and long game day experience.

      I’ve written the organization a few times asking for them to organize a STH shuttle from downtown (I’d even be happy to pay for it).

      I think I’m going to use The Senate shuttle for all my games this year.

      I also don’t appreciate the owner threatening and using bullying tactics in a fight with the City. I know the City isn’t completely blameless and that I don’t really get to see the full picture, but it certainly doesn’t make me want to give him my money.

    • Hax

      Touchy subject for sure. I think a better way to approach it would be “What changes would get you to more games?”

      As much as I get frustrated with fans who leave early to beat traffic or skip games entirely over the cost etc, it’s a reality for some people. I think the better answer is to find whatever demographics (single fans in their 20s and 30s??) where there’s the most opportunity to get more people out and target them. Lower beer prices and does that bring out a bunch more fans?

      • my2sens

        You’re right Hax, I should have phrased it better. I didn’t mean to single out people… was just wondering.

      • TookieIs100PercentRight

        Shuttles to and from games from downtown would be a huge, huge, huge plus. I know some restaurants have tried this (Local Heroes comes to mind) but Montreal had that going a while to and from Ottawa was amazing.
        OC TransSLOW bites, you can’t stay after the game for a beer or anything you gotta rush out. :(

    • Cassidaus

      I’m living in Toronto at the moment, so it’s difficult to get to games. I do know that if I ever move to Ottawa, seasons tickets will be a priority.

    • aegiszx

      Primary reason for me is my job, which requires me to travel a lottttt. I’m almost never in the city. I used to attend a lot of Chicago and Toronto games, and the transportation is wayyy better than what Ottawa offers. Many stadiums are pretty awful, but where the CTC is located makes it much harder than other cities.

    • Lorien

      I’m a full season seat owner, and I’ve actually been really disappointed with the account rep I was assigned this year (my previous moved on to a better position…he was phenomenal). This new guy just doesn’t seem to get it. Every conversation seems to start with an apology or excuse…very frustrating. Not to mention I’ve had all sorts of issues with Total Ticket not working correctly either.
      Couple that with the fact that I’m now in Orleans, and it’s quite a hassle to get to games, I have to reevaluate how much it means to me to have season tickets.

      Re freebies…last couple years it was like pulling teeth to get any freebies, so I have no idea where they were all going to.
      This year and next will be rough IMO on ticket sales, but very needed to adjust the market and get more paid tickets in the door. Team needs to be winning though, that usually resolves most things.

      • FBP

        My account rep wasn’t the greatest either. Many of my e-mails and questions (after I bought in) were ignored.

        I think a lot of the free tickets given out in the past were through charities and contests and that kind of thing.

        After the lockout it seemed like there were free tickets available in the Market through one place or another almost every day.

    • PraiseAlfie11

      Melynk already nailed it. Going to ctc for just a game with $11 beers isnt going to beat watching the game on TV. It needs to be an entertaining centre to go to.

      For the record, I bought 3 tix for the SJ game. Looked into a bus the return was the issue. Not clear how to get back…add to that bayshore is under construction and I have no idea if they let you park there to take the bus. Shuttles arent advertised like they used to be, so I wound up driving. Left after the game and was in traffic for a good half hour trying to get south down huntmar.

    • MikeS

      I live in the gta and am a university student, I make it up to 1-2 games a year though

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      My 100%, true to my heart answers:
      1)I was disappointed with the whole way the ALfredsson deal went down. He was our face of the franchise and it looks like they either couldn’t ante up (but then they said pay anything) or they had an arrangement that didn’t resolve itself or whatever. Eitehr way a huge mess.
      2)I got weary of hearing Eugene on the one hand saying he needs a casino then on the other hand saying the team is never going to move. Mixed message here. Either he needs money to keep the team here or he doesn’t.
      3)The schedule has been brutal. I can’t get there on weekend afternoons, my family is always busy then. I’ve been waiting for a Saturday night game for…freaking EVER now. I did go to the Islanders game and I’ll probably go tonight. But I want my Satutrday nights and Thursday nights back stat.
      Call me a non-fan, whatever. Those are my real reasons.

      • Mexican Baby Jesus

        Tookie 100% out?

  • Michenator

    I know this is a silly thing to say and it’s so 20 years ago, but it’s really too bad the arena isn’t downtown.

    • SenaWalrus

      Every time some posts this, I feel obligated to post this link to explain why it was placed where it was:

      http://www.eqjournal.org/?p=261

      A downtown arena simply was not an option for Ottawa at that time.

      • FBP

        I haven’t been to that many NHL cities, but I’m not sure if Buffalo/Calgary/Edmonton/Winnipeg/Quebec City has/had any decent transit?

        • Terry

          Edmonton and Calgary have city trains that have a least one stop at the Arena (In Calgary’s case there are 2 stations for the Saddledome. It is easier to drive and park then ride the train down the trying to get in and out of the Saddledome area. I have only been to Rexall a couple times and only once for a Hockey game and we stayed at the dive hotel across the road. The other time I road the train to Volbeat. In both cases, the downtown(ish) arenas would be brutal without the option of the trains.

      • FBP

        This article has some great information, but I wouldn’t say all of the information. The author would likely be biased about the arena location decision.

    • PraiseAlfie11

      And where downtown? Dont say lebreton flats, because that was ruled out by the ncc years ago…like 20 years ago!

      Even IF the ncc changes their mind, theres no infrastructure to support an nhl arena.

    • Hax

      Lots of reasons why it wasn’t an option, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s too bad it’s not downtown somewhere. Pretty rare in any city these days for new arenas/fields to be built in a city’s core though.

      But as a fan, imagine if they could have renovated Lansdowne 20 years ago to have an NHL-sized arena along with everything else. (And yes, that would have to include some sort of magical portal to 5,000 parking spaces somehow.)

      • SenaWalrus

        Could you imagine the traffic jams on Bank Street? Would make getting in/out of CTC seem like a walk in the park…

      • Tooks

        Most if not all are already built downtown or in the core. And most if not all new arena’s are built somewhere close to the core. We just have brutally terrible city planners…

        • SenaWalrus

          Are you referring to the lack of transit systems? Or the decision to put the arena in Kanata?

          • Tooks

            Lack of a mass transit system, no OC Transpo aint the answer. I would have to do some in depth research but I’m sure it could have been built closer.

            NCC rejecting the flats is part of our stupidly brutal city planning…

          • SenaWalrus

            I agree OC Transpo isn’t the answer, but I question your assertion that you are “sure it could have been built closer”.

            Definitely you should do your research, because I’m sure you, in all your mighty wisdom, will be able to find the answer that many, many people with millions of dollars on the line couldn’t find.

            In your research, I have no doubt you will find that the NCC had their reasons for rejecting the flats. In fact, just read the link I posted above – it will kick start your research.

          • Tooks

            We’ve all read that EQ journal article and to be honest, its alot of excuses. I mean to not build a stadium cuz you dont want to offend lawyers or a neighborhood…lol

            But yeah the major reason we are not seen as a legit big city, even though we the Nations Capital (alot of outsiders think its Toronto) is the lack of mass transit as Bruce mentions, Metro or Subway.

    • Sensnation

      Would be great if city planning was based around stadiums, but it’s not practical and especially in Canada most city planning is reactive instead of proactive and therefore the current downtown streets could not support such a stadium.

    • Hax

      Spilled milk at this point and I know you weren’t really trying to start a debate.

      Best we can hope for now is that West-end growth continues as well as the expansion of the Queensway and on ramps etc to make the commute less painful. That and continue to build the on-ice product to the point that people are willing to do the commute to see their team play.

      I live in the West end so I don’t really mind the location as much as someone in Orleans would. But I’d be happy to have to commute to downtown for games if the arena was there.

  • Andersonfan41

    Melnyk needs to find a bussiness partner!

    • 010101011111110101111101010111

      Melnyk needs to sell the team and go away

    • Tooks

      Why the hell did they release that number?! Would have been best to just try and market for the game. Never release low ticket amounts…

  • 4thStringGoalie

    You know what I don’t get about buying tickets, the extra ticket fees associated with each ticket! I thought that is why they got rid of TicketMaster. I generally go to games with my son so I need to go for cheaper end seats but the additional fees on the tickers are nearly 20-30% of the ticket price. Do they really need to charge $8-$9 to sell me a ticket, worst yet $16 to see two? Stubhub fees are a lot more reasonable, I’m unlikely to by tickets from the box office because of these fees.

    Another annoyance I also have is the media (radio, newspaper) constantly criticizing fans for not showing up. When was the last time any of those guys actually paid money for a game. I’m sure there salaries aren’t that great that they would be so willing to drop $100 for a pair of the worst seats in the place.

    • Sensnation

      It’s sad how much they nickle and dime fans and then complain fans aren’t supporting the team enough. Melnyk created the low attendance this year with his bs over the summer and about face about competitive teams needing to spend to the cap.

      I’ve never understood box offices charging extra though, it’s just a money grab and such a poor business practice to charge extra for people to buy the tickets at the location. Between that and the extra standing room they added a few years back, no wonder they claim ticket prices are lower now, yet somehow they make more revenue. Goooo commercialism!

  • SensChirp

    Welcome back, everyone! Brief Disqus outage but seems to be back now.

    • FBP

      It was a lonely and desperate time.

      • TookieIs100PercentRight

        No kidding, I went out and got real food (veggies, chicken breasts) to cook dinner instead of ordering from Gabe’s for the game.
        TOOKS100%OUT!!!!

        • SensChirp

          My most sincere apologies.

          • TookieIs100PercentRight

            It’s not your fault I’m a doofus, your site is the best community hub for Sens fans out there.
            TOOKS100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • NickofTime

    It’s interesting that the Sens seem interested in bringing in a defenceman, yet I’m reading how well the defence has been playing since Boroweicki was called up. IMO they don’t need a top 4 defenceman although who couldn’t use one? What they need is a top 6 forward to play with Spezza & score, something every forward on this team has been unable to do while playing with Spezza. And considering the “BUDGET” restrictions this team is under they may have to look from within to solve this issue as well. Lucky for them they have two candidates at the moment in Hoffman who has been hot lately & the much anticipated Mark Stone who I think the organization is waiting for as the “default” forward to play with Spezza.

    That being said I also think that the organization is waiting for Cody Ceci to be that top 4 defenceman they want & need & if Wiercioch can everimprove on his defensive duties he also has top 4 potential. The organization IMO already have what they need in-house unfortunately a couple of these guys are still young & learning the game & are not quite ready or at the point the team needs them to play mistake free. They also need to move out a couple of one way contracts to make room & I’m not sure any team is interested in Condra, Conacher or Corvo. Phillips is another guy who is past his prime but I’m quite sure the team will want to wait for him to hopefully retire, I doubt he gets another contract. Hopefully it doesn’t turn into another ugly Alfie situation.

    • Aaron 2.0

      The team has improved, but I don’t think I would say the D have played great (at least not defensively) over the past few games. Boroweicki has certainly helped calm things down. But, overall the team’s still struggled to move the puck. Defensive positioning is improving, but there are still too many breakdowns. I’d definitely prioritize a top-4 D as the team’s greatest need right now. This team is actually near the top of goals for in the East. That would probably be even higher if the D start moving the puck a little smoother (save Karlsson of course).

      • sprucesens

        it would be nice though to not have a revolving door around spezza. Would be good to see a solid line built similar to the turris line. My vote for now is
        Hoffman – spezza – michalek.
        Maybe if we are looking to trade, someone like stone could take michalek’s spot, (assuming we are trading and not signing him). I know they are rookies, but they would be most likely to listen to what the C spezza says. When he tells you to get to this area, and be ready to shoot the puck because I WILL find you, they are very likely to just that. Multiple options by year end of wingers for spezza:
        michalek, stone, Hoffman, robinson, conacher, puempel. Time will tell. Not sure if we need to aquire a top 4 D. Sure it would be a good bandaid for now, but then we have to make room for ceci in a year. And borowiecki on his 1 way.
        Cowen-Karlsson
        Ceci-Methot
        Phillips, Gryba, Borowiecki, Wiercioch.
        Hopefully Phillips retires.

  • matsoukas45

    If melynk can`t spend more to the cap the team is trouble.The cap is going up to about 80 million in the next few years and if we are around 55 million well you can figure it out we will be an average or below average team.Melynk needs to sell the team with someone with deeper pockets.

    • Sensnation

      He wants a partner and has been looking for years, but he doesn’t’ want to relinquish control.

    • Hax

      Nobody in the org has confirmed that “budget” is the same as “never spend to the cap”.

      In fact, when pressed Melnyk has often said that he’d spend when the time was right.

      I know I’m a rose-colored glasses wearing homer, but I prefer to think of the “budget” as a case of not taking on any bad contracts and waiting until we have a legit cup shot to spend to the cap. That “legit shot”, IMO, is a year or two away at least.

      And really, outside of the ridiculous, you couldn’t really get this team TO the cap right now if you wanted to. Are you going to trade Anderson and Lehner for more expensive options? Trade Karlsson for someone who costs more?

      Yes, you could certainly add Doughty and Malkin or even some more realistic options, but I don’t think you could come up with actually possible hockey trades that make us a sudden favorite to with the cup.

      • Zachpraisetheswedes

        I totally agree with this and made the same point when Alfie left and people freaked out about the budget. It’s not that we can’t spend its that there’s no reason to.

        Sure we could have kept Alfie but apart from that, like Hax pointed out we couldn’t get to the cap even if we tried, unless we went out and made ridiculous moves.

        This offseason is when we should see if the budget is fact or fiction. Murray simply can’t let Ryan become a UFA so he better get him signed this offseason. Spezza will likely not leave but I think he’s still necessary to sign this offseason. Lehner will sign most likely a 3-4 year contract so that’s not a big deal. Pretty much everyone else is signed.

        At that point we will see what kind of financial situation were in

    • FBP

      As soon as his erection inhalant takes off we’ll be good.

    • sprucesens

      I don’t know how they plan on having the cap go up that much. The owners and league need to get their head of there A$$. Most teams are barely squeaking by, and they would then have to somehow make what, 25 MILLION more somehow, per team!? dum dums.

    • MrSkullhead

      The salary cap isn’t expected to be anywhere near 80 million until around 2019-2020. So… I’m not too worried. Next year is 64.3.

      • matsoukas45

        Your wrong the cap is a least 70 million next year if you listen to all the hockey experts or as high as 72 its going up then they said 80 million by 2016-2017 so do some fact checking before you post on this site

  • Hax

    Did the “budget” maybe cost us Alfredsson? It could have. Maybe if we were a cap team we could have resigned Alfredsson and still gotten Ryan and MacArthur. We’d be a better team on paper and probably on ice but then what about next season? Would that be a better time to lose Alfredsson to retirement? Or would he Farve one more year?

    I love Alfredsson as much anyone but we had to move on at some point and I think after a year without him where we “find ourselves” a bit and Spezza grows into the captain’s role we’ll be better off.

    And outside of Alfredsson, I can’t think of any UFAs we “lost out one” that would be game-changers right now. Clarkson? Puh-lease. Trade for Vanek? The Isles paid a HIGH price there.

    I’m not sure a free-spending Murray could make this team significantly better in the long run.

    Where we’ll really learn the truth is when we try to resign Spezza, Ryan, Methot etc. If we end up letting some guys walk strictly over the budget then I’ll worry with the rest of you guys. But if some of those guys want $80M contracts then budget or not it would be a dumb signing.

  • IcySurfas

    I dont listen to Team 1200 much …. so bear with me.

    Who is the moron debating with Ian Mendes about Anderson/Lehner on the AIR right now? Simpson…or someone else?

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      If his speech is interespersed with “HYUK YUK YUK” laughter, self-glossing and porn references it’s likely Shawn Simpson.

      • boom

        No kidding, eh? If he took a valium before the show, he would be alot easier to take.

      • TookieIs100PercentRight

        Oh it might be senior citizen Terry Marcotte.

        • boom

          Ok, that hurts…I played ball against Terry Marcotte when I was a kid…and I was a year older, if I remember correctly…

      • PraiseAlfie11

        Dont forget the pinot grigio wine!

    • FBP

      Simpson.

  • MethotToMyMadness

    Hmmm…I posted a message earlier today, but it doesn’t look like it posted. Anyway, Looking forward to watching the Sens go after win #4 tonight. Giroux and the boys will likely play one of their best games of the season, it’s kinda how it goes for the Sens. Seeing as Giroux got the monkey off his back with his 1st, I hope we aren’t the recipient of his 2nd, 3rd and 4th tonight. Sens need to play this game smart, and focus on the scoreboard, nothing else.

    Noticed Chirp’s message about Phillips missing the morning skate. I saw him last night at Big Rig, he looked fine, didn’t say anything about injury. Then again, why would that even come up to a total stranger, lol. I was at the GONGSHOW Beauty Beer release party, lots of free beer were had and I met many of the Sens. In a closed off environment like that, they are all very down to earth and easy to talk too. II can say that Phillips and Karlsson were two of the last Sens to leave. Makes me wonder if he was just nursing a headache this morning ;)

    I was thinking about the latest Spezza for Team Canada talk, with Stamkos out and Giroux not playing up to par. If they were indeed looking elsewhere, it is a far fetched statement that Turris would get just as good of a look as Spezza? I mean, he’s got more points, has taken over #1 C in Ottawa, in most regards and has a +11 to boot. Spezza’s the captain but I just thought I’d add that little debate topic. lol

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      Tough call but good question. I think until Turris shows he can play on any line, he won’t get a good look. At this point, why break those three up to prove that. That being said, Spezza hasn’t really showed that either, so unless he starts scoring, I doubt he will be considered.

      • sprucesens

        as crappy and selfish as it sounds, the less players that go to the Olympics off our team the better. Sure I guess it means we have “less talented” players then, but at least they stay healthy! I guess I still am nervous ever since we lost hasek way back when. But if spezza isn’t a candidate with stamkos out, i’m sure turris won’t be. And i’m fine with neither of them being candidates. Let’s us keep a “sleepers” status for that much longer. And keeps motivation and focus on the senators.

    • MikeS

      With toews/bergeron going I cant see room for turris. If he was going to make it would be in that type of role. If spezza makes it, it will be for elite playmaking ability, something turris doesnt have

    • Jacques

      I agree TUrris would fit the Team Canada bill to a T. He’s a complete player.

  • Hax

    Conspiracy theory of the day:

    Melnyk wants people to “see” how rough things are with the team in terms of financial success. So he’s stopped the freebie tickets that pad the attendance figures and at the same time getting those numbers “out there” more.

    Not sure if walkups (paid) are actually down that much but I do know season ticket numbers are up (thank you Habs!).

  • The Apostle

    Stupidly excited for tonight. First at glass experience. If the team was selling out then that would generally be out of the price range for me. So every cloud and all that.

    • SensChirp

      Awesome. Sat down there for the first time earlier this season and was not disappointed. You’ll have a whole new appreciation for NHL players afterwards. Don’t forget to hold up a SensChirp sign!

    • T K

      My first time at the glass, an unknown backup goalie called Anderson made Gerber look like a bush-leaguer in a win for Florida… It’s very unique perspective. Enjoy every second!

  • Robert Cyr

    I’m also very fortunate, to go to the game with my daughter, in an invite
    to a friend’s Corporate Suite in Level 200 !!!!!!!!!!!!

    GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Snoopy Senior

    • SensChirp

      Making me pretty jealous! I’m at home on baby watch with our daughter expected to arrive any day now. Enjoy the game!

      • The Apostle

        part time fans are the worst

    • Jacques

      Have a great game Snoop.

  • Righteous Smoke

    4-1 Sens!
    Karlsson Hat Trick!
    GO SENS GO!!!

    Cut DOWN on those DZONE Turnovers and this game is in the bag!!

  • SensChirp

    Didn’t notice on Saturday as I was at the game- Did Chris Neil have a visor on? Strange look for him but understandable after that puck to the face a couple games ago.

    • Righteous Smoke

      He did, apparently he put it on because his daughter started to cry after she seen his face the following morning after the game when he got the puck in the face.

    • Hax

      Yeah he wore it Saturday all game. Still not sure if it’s permanent or just until his most recent puck-caused shiner heals.

  • Hax

    Poor Spezza. Takes on the C in the wake of the demi-God, tries to play a complete, team game both to be a better leader and to “prove” himself to all the people who claim he’s one-dimensional, STILL a PPG player and yet he gets no love.

    I hope Spezza just continues to build his game so by the time the games mean a lot more we’ll basically have two guys that can play 1C. A more complete Spezza and a young guy in Turris that keeps improving.

    People will still find reasons to crap on him though.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Corvo in for Big Rig

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      Joe Corvo has 5 points in 7 games and has been scratched by Mac #MacTactics #MacCoaching.

      • Mexican Baby Jesus

        Yeah because Corvo is horrible on Defense and we were getting eating alive. Before you thumbs down, watch how freaking bad he is in his own zone when there is pressure

  • SensChirp

    Ad advanced stat question for those that follow that debate- Is it reasonable to measure all players “success” by number of shots created/surrendered (Corsi) if that’s not the players sole motivation on each shift?

    Thinking about a player like Spezza who doesn’t hit the ice with the intent of “generating shots” but rather creating quality scoring opportunities. Or does that mean that he’s playing the game wrong?

    Realize that the Spezza line is simply giving up too many shots right now but thinking more about his approach in the offensive end.

    • Millennium

      Well if he’s generating scoring opportunities, won’t that therefore lead to shots and a better Corsi?

      I really do like advanced stats, and I think they are incredibly useful. But they aren’t infallible, and none of them should be considered in a vacuum. You’ve gotta look at a variety of stats, and also some stuff that stats don’t track too well.

    • MikeS

      I think corsi can measure the relativity in which a player effects the control of the play. However there is a reason why some players are called GAMEBREAKERs. They simply create plays that very few other people can and this leads to many more goals with less chances. There is a reason why the sens corsi is worse this year but their goals are higher.

      I also realize they are playing poorly defensively

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      My problem with Corsi is that playmaking lines will have excellent goalscoring opportunities, not necessarily shots. You can send out grinders who shoot at every angle and can build up a decent corsi right?

      How about we get an advanced stat that shows +- of goal scoring chances.

      • MikeS

        The problem with scoring chances are they are so subjective. You could show 10 people a scoring chance and get 10 different ratings for the quality

        • Mexican Baby Jesus

          Yeah you’re right…but at least they have a certain value…as opposed to a shot which is essentially anonymous

          • MikeS

            Interesting chirp brought up this post. Philly probably has huge corsi lead but sens have had only scoring change

          • SensChirp

            Yea, just something I have been thinking about when it comes to shots as a measure of puck possession and in turn, of success. Trying to learn more about how it all works and how they account for such things.

    • Aaron 2.0

      Interesting to see advanced stats talked about more
      and more. I don’t honestly have an answer to your question, Chirp. As a
      doctoral student I deal with stats all the time, so try to avoid it in my
      down-time activities. I think part of the deal though is that the best (and
      really only decent) predictor of success over the long-term has to do with
      winning the shot clock. That’s why these guys like it so much, from what I
      understand, and also why they don’t talk too much about other statistics
      related to scoring chances.

      • SensChirp

        But then does that mean every team should be aiming to generate as many shots as possible during a game? Because that’s not happening. Clearly not all shots are created equal and the focus for players is on generating quality scoring chances.

        • Aaron 2.0

          I’m not really sure. I think corsi just ends up being a very good indicator or who is controlling the play. Over time, whoever controls the play should score and win more. I don’t think I would tell any player to change the way they play based on advanced statistics. I’d say it’s just more of an indicator of how things are going.

  • MikeS

    As the game starts tonight the 6th in the atlantic is tied with the 3rd in the metro. There is something wrong with these divisions

  • MikeS

    Its so nice to have a PP without phillips on it :)

    • T K

      At least, he would have taken a shot. Unlike the PP we just witnessed

  • T K

    Did someone tilt the building?

    • MikeS

      Your so negative, Sens are leading in shots and probably have had the better scoring chances

      • T K

        Sorry, being more sarcastic than negative… Zone time needs to move to Flyers end…

        • MikeS

          Ill agree the sens should be controlling this game more, but they are not being outplayed

          • T K

            That’s why I prefer to see the play stay in the offensive end

  • T K

    On attendance, I think it’s the scalpers that are suffering, not the team. Many of the empties seem to be in the lower bowl

  • MikeS

    wtf just happened

  • karlssens

    Ouch, Weircioch looks so soft.

  • karlssens

    Were loosing to the Flyers :|

  • aegiszx

    Well, good thing hockey is 3 periods… However, if I have to sit through that painful display of hockey for another 40, Im going to be very upset… Hoping it’s just rust from the weekend!

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      Same

  • JBL11

    We traded Milan Michalek right? Or is he on the team this year?………………..

    • Jacques

      No he’s just stuck playing with Zack Smith and Neil, who should be on our 4th line. But we like having two fourth lines in a Ottawa. 2 crap lines won’t cut it in the NHL.

      • JBL11

        He’s had plenty of time with Spezz. Milo and Pat are way too soft for my liking. Especially considering how tall they both are.

  • bluebuyyoo

    Too bad Cowen didn’t hold out longer.

  • karlssens

    LOL

  • karlssens

    Nice of the boys to show up

  • Jacques

    Cowen playing instead of Gryba hmmmmm. He’s been terrible poor Karlsson.

  • aegiszx

    Oh it’s going to be one of THOSE nights eh lol

  • karlssens

    How did Greening miss???

  • Aaron 2.0

    Well, we have to chase the game now. Need the next one…

  • SENSible

    Have we started our rebuild yet?

    • SensChirp

      What does this mean?

  • MikeS

    Its weird cause im not nervous that they cant come back, just dissapointed that the came out so poorly in what should have been an easy 2 points

  • Jacques

    Watching Kassian brings back memories of the skating bear in the Russian circus I once saw.

  • Jacky

    Why is Cowen even playing

  • karlssens

    I just hate how they take teams so lightly.. Come out hard Jo matter who!

  • Yackbacker

    Lehner should have started

    • SensChirp

      • MikeS

        Im not sure how you can blame the sens being flat on Andy at all. Lehner would be down this game as well

        • Aaron 2.0

          Butterfly effect. Who knows what would be. Anderson isn’t the reason we’re losing though.

  • Millennium

    Cowen continues to be a trainwreck.

    • T K

      I agree that he’s not where we’d want him to be but it took Chara, what, 5-7 years to become the beast we know today

  • karlssens

    This is a joke. Enter trade.

    • JBL11

      Agreed. This D core needs help.

  • MikeS

    The sens make everything crappy look good. From goalies to powerplays…….

  • T K

    Some times I feel the Sens play lazily in front of Anderson because they expect him to constantly make miraculous saves

  • karlssens

    Ottawa looks brutal. Not many positives. Just when you think they are turning it around a team that averages 1.6 goals a game scores three in 30 minutes. This team is a cock tease lol

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Gotta give the Flyers a lot of credit. They’re playing real good hockey right now.

    • Tooks

      Or are the Sens playing really bad, that PP goals was the only one that should have went in.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Team is totally asleep at the wheel tonight. Disappointing given their current position in the division. Their should be a lot more compete than this…

    • Tooks

      And that is why seats are empty, no compete level at home vs a mess of a team. I still dont understand why Lehner didnt start, I know and support Andy as #1 but you ALWAYS go with the hot hand. Would only be 1-0 right now.

      • Conor_smythe

        Great. So if lehner was playing we’d be…. the leafs of last season?

        That doesnt make me feel better

        • Tooks

          Enjoying the 3-0 shellackin?

          • Conor_smythe

            No. But at least its a true representation of our team.

            Gives Murray more to think about instead of lving in lala land like most people here praising our ‘winning streak’

      • sens23

        pretty bold comment to say lehner was a forsure stop either of the wrap around goals. the first one was a bad break with the bounce off the glass and the second was all on cowen

        • Tooks

          Both of them Anderson over committed, look at them closely, he came out of the paint on the downie shot….WTF, yeah the bounce off thr glass didnt help but come on…

          The 2nd wrap around he locked on the guy on the boards like he was shooting, he only slid when Voracek was already on the other side of the net…

          Just bad positioning on his part.

  • Jacques

    Ok Murray pull out the old Rolodex with the GM’s numbers. The last 3 wins didn’t fool anybody they were signed LEHNER,

  • Conor_smythe

    Cant say im surprised. . We didn’t exactly dominate our last 3 games. Regardless of what the scores might have indicated.. this team needs help.

    Tough to blame the schedule now…

    • Conor_smythe

      Still taking way too many penalties. Still allowing way too many shots

  • MikeS

    Wow, that is a super soft penalty, conacher couldnt knock a 12 year old girl over

  • T K

    How could little, kind, gentle Conacher ever cross check anyone to the ice?

    • Tooks

      Conacher is not kind and gentle, lol.

      • T K

        But he’s too tiny to be penalized…

  • SENSible

    This team is never ready to play, to me that is a coaching issue although they are sadly lacking in talent also.

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      I think the team has boatloads of talent. For me, it’s the coaching and management of that talent that has really lacked this season. I’ve been unimpressed with Mac this season. He doesn’t seem to really have an answer for the poor play.

      • SensChirp

        Doing the best he can with the collection of defenceman he has. Also, they won the last three games.

        • Tooks

          Yes due in large part to a goalie who’s sitting on the bench…

          Those first 2 wrap around goals were very weak…

        • jasonontheoldsenschirp

          Team still hasn’t been great on the season as a whole. Lehn was the reason for those wins [facing 55+ shots per]. Still, tons of season left, and I’m still confident the guys will put it together. Somehow. I don’t think our D core is fantastic, but they shouldn’t be this bad.

        • Conor_smythe

          This is a question id usually reserve for yost but…. did you watch those games?
          Not exactly works of art

          • SensChirp

            Like I said, best they can with the defenceman they have.

          • Conor_smythe

            Agreed

  • aegiszx

    I lost count of how many times I heard “Wiercoch… MISSES THE NET”.

  • karlssens

    Realistically though what player can we pick up that would dramatically fix this issue? Reality is we can’t afford to spend like the contenders, and until we pay the extra 14 mill in space on some talent, this will be the product.

    • JBL11

      If we played with the intensity level that we had against Chicago, I think we’d be a different team. Sadly, we wait around too much to see how the other team plays. Drives me nuts.

    • MikeS

      Sens have 8 in cap space. not that far off the cap especially since some players need raises next year

  • karlssens

    Does Cowen even Hockey?

    • JBL11

      He don’t hockey too good right now

    • T K

      Unlike Chara at this stage of his career, at least Cowen can skate. What he needs to do is learn to be MEAN.

      • karlssens

        Chara has 4 inches, and offensive talent. Cowen is Gryba at 22.

  • karlssens

    Hell of a save!!

    • JBL11

      If the boys win…we’ll remember that one…big time

      • karlssens

        Lol that ship has sailed.. Add this one to the L column. Next up bruins

  • Tooks

    I find Andy is out of position too often, trying to do too much, trying to cover for his D. Like that last save, way too much challenge on Hartnell in the middle, he’s then forced to make a desperate save from the side.

    • JBL11

      That’s becoming increasingly noticeable. Didn’t seem to be as much of an issue in the past couple years.

  • T K

    Cher…. Doesn’t look bad for a woman of 124…

  • Tooks

    Is Karlsson even playing? This is a game he should be controlling…

  • Gordon Ramsli

    I miss Phillips….

  • JBL11

    Not saying that I want Andy traded…but if the Murrays want to get a decent return (aka a top 4 Dman/top 6 forward) he’s probably one of very few players other teams would bother inquiring about at this point. Milo would get us a second round pick…Lazar and Ceci aren’t going anywhere…tough position…thoughts?

    • SensChirp

      Not sure the market for goalies is really all that strong right now. Sabres have one to move. Ducks wanna move one. Neither team is having much luck.

      • JBL11

        True. As much as I’d love to trade for a solid top 4 D…I have no idea what else we would be able to package.

    • Conor_smythe

      Ottawas biggest trade asset is zibanejad… thoughts?

      • sprucesens

        no

        • sprucesens

          i should clarify. no, not happening. not no he isn’t a big trade asset

      • jasonontheoldsenschirp

        He’s one of our best players. That Mac fails to utilize properly.

        • JBL11

          Zib is quickly becoming one of our more exciting players. To me he is untouchable. Especially with Milo’s inevitable departure.

          • jasonontheoldsenschirp

            The guy just bleeds potential. I mean he’s already playing above his age.

            Too bad his coach doesn’t believe in him.

  • T K

    What I find difficult is that every other freakin team can score at will against the Flyers… A shutout is simply not plausible

    • Tooks

      Yep its fucking shit, and thats why we are YEARS away from truly competing for a Cup.

  • SensFanInMTL

    #Re-free Pageau

  • T K

    Sorry I suck on skates but even I would not make a pass like that

    • T K

      What the hell was he thinking? You don’t pass up the middle with one of their guys in the zone

  • karlssens

    Lol Alfie chants!! Awesome

    • Tooks

      Yeah that was awesome, pretty loud too!

  • mr.slapshot

    I just really don’t like Greening

  • karlssens

    If this isn’t an exclamation mark game for Bryan Murray I don’t know what is lol..

    • SensChirp

      A what?

      • karlssens

        Exclamation mark? One of these: ! ;)

    • sprucesens

      exclamation….?

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    sad

    This team is not playing like a team

    I actually am beginning to question Maclean

    • mr.slapshot

      Doesn’t seem like there’s much of a plan ever.

    • SensFanInMTL

      It begins with the constant line juggling. It keeps changing with failure. They don’t get enough time to click, then we panic and rejuggle the lines again. We then become even more confused and have to adjust to the new lines and by the time you know it, the crappy Flyers get a lead. Could be more.

      • mr.slapshot

        You called it.

  • xN1Cx

    Never been so mad watching the good guys play. Don’t think I even could count one clean pass the entire game. Horrendous display of hockey… by everyone – coaches included.

  • sprucesens

    i could tell after the first few shift that a loss was in order unless we got a gifted goal and somehow picked up our play, and deflated them. Didn’t happen, and this is the result. Hopefully they get all there mistakes and poor play over and done with today….

  • karlssens

    Canadian tire center: where slumps are broken

  • SensFanInMTL

    Conacher’s got heart and determination and is gritty. The stats show what he brings to the table thus far. I don’t know how much longer we can watch him as a top 6.

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    This has to be a wake up call for Murray

    I don’t want to pretend to know what to do but Murray better be making some calls tomorrow for defense

    Hoffman and Pageau need to make an appearance as well
    I

    • SensFanInMTL

      #Re-free Pageau, and immediatement. Peu plus voir la meme marde over and over anymore.

  • karlssens

    Sucks if you paid to watch that shit.. Ouch

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    This isn’t going to help attendance

    • Tooks

      A loss to a bottom feeding team….not likely

  • Conor_smythe

    Daily smythe

    Because of the team budget, The senators likely need to make 2 trades to get the player they want. It Could be an interesting Wednesday

    • SensFanInMTL

      Daily SFIM,

      Hoffman & Pageau to be on the next flight out from Binghamton immediately following tonight’s game, getting yanked out of bed and onto a plane. Greening & Conacher to be in the comfort of the luxurious press box for Friday’s game.

      • Conor_smythe

        Defense is the problem. Even anne frank can see that

        • T K

          You mean Helen Keller

          • SensFanInMTL

            LMAO, it is Keller, who was blind. But Anne Frank been through hardships, like our team, so yes, I can relate to Ms. Frank & Ms. Keller.

    • Jacques

      Spezza to Edmonton is what I would do, and then Andy to Florida. Let’s get some players to right this ship. Spezza isn’t a MacLean type guy pure and simple.

  • Andersonfan41

    What’s the matter with Anderson this year?

    • Tooks

      He had a career year, goalies dont often follow that up with an even better year…Andy has many cracks in the armor and they finally show through.

  • T K

    Ok, on to a serious issue: on the “juicy” Pro-Line commercial, is the 4th man in comedian Darren Rose from Match Game? You only see the side of the face..

    • Conor_smythe

      Yes. Im pretty sure he wrote the commercial too

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    You can actually see Anderson’s trade value seeping out…..

  • karlssens

    Greening is beyond useless this year. Bless his heart he’s a good kid, but wtf happened to him.

  • Colin

    Rookie needs his first goal or first win? Opposition needs a confidence building win? Need to break out of any kind of slump? Come on down to CTC. Getting tired of this.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Paul Maclean has no idea what to do with this team.

    • Conor_smythe

      Nope

      • jasonontheoldsenschirp

        Glad we agree.

    • SENSible

      Agree, PMAC is totally lost.

  • Gordon Ramsli

    Remember when we signed Redden over Chara?

    • Dr Sens

      We DID NOT SIGN REDDEN OVER CHARA. Chara did not sign. Simple

      • Gordon Ramsli

        I’m a angry fan ill believe whatever crap i wanna believe lol

  • T K

    I don’t mind a team of likeable players by they need to grow a mean streak

  • Tooks

    I think there is approx 8000 people left at CTC, haha and booing…Terrible terrible sight to see.

    • SensFanInMTL

      Gotta tip my hat off to them. Staying until the horn knowing their team is down by 5.

  • Millennium

    We are missing 2/3s of a second line. No one on that forward squad is good enough to be playing with Spezza.

    • aegiszx

      Man, completely agree. We really gotta stop screwing Spezza over… but to be fair, EVERYONE was calling for Ryan to play alongside… yet Ryan has wayyyy more chemistry with Turris.

    • SENSible

      Spezza is getting tired playing by himself.

      • Millennium

        Can’t say I blame him either. Dude was finally gonna get that winger he’s been missing since Heatley, and he loses that chemistry in like 2 games. And now he’s playing 3rd line minutes behind Smith.

        • Tooks

          I feel the Spezza era is gonna be a short one, lol

          • Millennium

            That’s up to the organization. If they can get him a line to play with, there’s nothing to worry about. But if they jerk him around and don’t get the players we need, who knows.

    • Jacques

      C’mon Spezza clears the puck down the ice On a Powerplay. all set up and he fires a nowhere pass down the ice. A few dangles but he was lousy. the guys on TVA weren’t impressed. Let’s stop making excuses for him.

  • Dr Sens

    Boy I bet the coach feels pretty dumb about putting Anderson in the net instead of Lehner.

    Not at all Andy’s fault but he ruined a good flow we had going there. Getting pumped by a bad team

    • Tooks

      Yeah that was a bad call, simple as that, Lehner was red hot, team was feeling good.

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      Mac is too loyal. He needs to play his best players. Chris Neil plays too much, and Zibanejad plays too little. He needs to let go of his hard-ons with certain players, and go with what works. I wasn’t surprised when he chose Anderson over the red hot Lehner. Mac’s always favored him for some reason.

      Lehner is the future in net and the future is now.

  • Zorav

    Apart from Detroit, Buffalo and Phoenix, I really haven’t felt like we deserved a victory. Don’t if you guys feel the same?

    • Righteous Smoke

      YUP! BIG TIME! Totally agree!!
      And to me, when the team is this bad and playing with no heart and whats looks to be no preparation, and how maclean keeps screwing around with the lines. I think the coaching is too blame for how the Sens have played this season… I cant believe I’m saying that after what Maclean has done in the past couple seasons, but all this line scrambling, kinda tells me he’s really desperately trying turn this around and it’s just not working.

  • SensFanInMTL

    There is no need to panic. Because we all know what the problem is. We simply cannot make moves just for the sake of making moves. Then again, any moves would be welcoming at this point. Let’s just not do too badly after 82. We don’t need Anaheim to make the playoffs, go far into the playoffs, have their own 1st round pick ANNNNND a top 10 pick as well, sacrament.

    • aegiszx

      Hey remember, we got Turris almost mid-way through that year, and he was great. There’s no “perfect” time for a trade but if Murray is presented with an opportunity, he will undoubtedly take it if it makes our team just an inch better.

  • Sensturion

    By FAR the worst loss of the season against the WORST scoring team of the league. Fun stuff. The team played horribly; they didn’t even need the refs to lose that one for them. Now, I’m not about to blame the refs for this one, but no one can deny that a few calls went the flyers, way. Not that it would’ve made much of a difference if we can’t score on the PP. I just think it’s BS that the team with the most penalty minutes in the league got one penalty. Also, am I the only one who thought they called that goal off ridiculously fast after seeing the replay? It was a lot closer than it first appeared. Anywho… RELEASE THE LEHNER! FOR GOOD! LEHNER FOR NUMBER 1!

  • Aaron 2.0

    Well, that was an embarrassing game tonight. I was a little worried going in, as so many people (media included) were talking like we already won it. Philadelphia is clearly a much better team than their record reflects. When you actually look at their roster, they should be decent. So, no real surprise.

    Nobody was good tonight; forwards, defense or goal-tending.

    Who do you bench next game? So many candidates. Start with Kassian. I don’t really ever understand why we dress him. Corvo and Weircioch are candidates too.

    And, now who do you start in net? Two-Wrap around goals in today’s NHL is bad. But, starting Lehner against Boston is exactly what Cherry was talking about a while back (with Bernier/Reimer). You give Anderson the easier start tonight. And, if Lehner gets the start against Boston and loses, they’ll likely go back to Anderson. Obviously, I really didn’t like the goalie selection tonight. It just needlessly complicates things IMO.

  • Mat

    Your move Murray!!

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      Is it bad that I want Paul fired :S I don’t want to… but I want to.

      • SensFanInMTL

        For what he did in his first 2 seasons? No man. Just no. But think to yourself. Guy Boucher, Carboneau, Carlyle. They all had success and eventually slipped off the hill and eventually were relieved of their duties. So only time will tell.

        • jasonontheoldsenschirp

          I know you’re right. I’m just frustrated with him.

          • SensFanInMTL

            No one’s right man. We’re out in the cold. And guess what? There’s a shitstorm out here. We’re all in this together.

  • SensFanInMTL

    Remember how quickly Kelly & Fisher were dealt? What was it like, immediately after the game was over? Well expect…. nothing to be done tonight! Prove me wrong Murray, PROVE ME WRONG!

    some time after midnight EST…..

    Sens have acquired ________ in exchange for __________.

    • Mat

      Everyone’s looking for this but the most you’ll see is probably Grant down, Hoffman up.

  • Righteous Smoke

    Poor The Apostle, he commented earlier his excitement for having glass seats for that shitshow of a hockey game, what a waste of money…

    • Tooks

      He probably didnt pay for them, lol.

  • T K

    Time to bring back Jarko Ruutu! Someone needs to bite someone…

  • Tooks

    Its ok everyone, its a fake hockey night, all the games played were a cruel joke, the NHL will release a statement tomorrow..
    Buffalo won vs LA
    Florida won vs ANA
    Philly won vs OTT
    Carolina won vs Colorado…
    Nuff said…

    • Mat

      Haha.. Even your posts are fake. They are somewhat positive and optomistic!! lol..

      • Tooks

        Its the apocalypse!!!

    • aegiszx

      What the flying… Next youll tell me the Leafs are atop the standings…

    • aegiszx

      The hockey gods are playing a sick joke tonight. Avs lose to the Canes, Wings lose to the Jets, Kings lose to the Sabres, Ducks lose to the Panthers…

      I’m goin to throw up. A VERY bizarre night… Rise of the bottom feeders.

  • Sensturion

    In short:
    - Cowen needs the Weircioch/Corvo treatment. Sit his ass down and tell him this isn’t junior! He’s not supposed to try and score. He’s a defenseman!
    - I don’t mind Grant, but for a dude that’s his size, he needs to make some room out there for himself. Same goes for Greening. Speaking of Greening…
    - Is there a reason he hasn’t been benched yet? Sure he’s hitting, but he can’t hit the net and can’t get a puck out of the zone if his life depended on it.
    - Why is Zibanejad getting benched so often? He’s not playing any worse than the rest of the team and he always seems to be the odd man out.
    - The defense core seems to play a different game depending on who’s in net. The scramble when Anderson is out there as if he’ll single-handedly win them the game. When Lehner is in net, they manage to stay somewhat composed and keep the puck away from the net. The hell is that about?
    - Finally… I simply don’t understand what Maclean is trying to accomplish out there. Says “Best players play” and decides to put Anderson in net instead of Lehner. Last I checked, Anderson wasn’t a top 5 goalie in the league… I don’t give a damn if he’s “number 1″.

    • Miguel

      now that is not just a rant s it is based on facts, thanks for that rant, saved me some time

  • T K

    We’ve just witnessed the Phillips Effect. See what happens when he doesn’t play?

    • SensFanInMTL

      For real dude. We’ve been crapping on Phillips for the longest time. His presence is really missed. It really is.

      • Aaron 2.0

        Yeah, it’s been mentioned a few times. But, right now he’s 3rd on our D chart. It’s obviously not a good situation at his age, but that’s the reality right now.

  • Mat

    Anyone else listening to AJ lose his mind at the fans venting about player trades? Awesome..

  • John

    In one line… this game was flat out embarrassing, rant time.

    Paulrus put away his blender tonight and watched the team sink. Spezza’s line is dying on the scoreboard & possession numbers – it can’t continue. Zibanejad needs to play top 6 or AHL. Kassian belongs in the press box. Pageau & Hoffman both worthy of a call-up, maybe Ceci or Claesson as well. Cowen has got to be told to SKATE when he has 50 feet of open ice in front of him instead of his moronic 50 foot wrist passes EVERY SINGLE TIME….

    I’m no expert but I bet this works:

    MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
    Zibanejad-Spezza-Pageau

    Michalek-Smith-Greening

    Conacher-Grant-Neil

    When Condra returns it’s Conacher who sits. If you don’t Pageau, Hoffman is just as deserving.

    • Mat

      I like Michalek on the 3rd line. I don’t think Pageau or Hoffman comes up without Grant going down.

    • Sensturion

      All things considered, I thought Kassian had a decent game tonight. He didn’t cost us in his 5 minutes or so of ice time and that’s all you can ask of a player like that.

      • John

        Actually he did cost us. He cost us by only being able to skate around extremely slowly for 5 minutes. He cost us a 4th line that could win a possession battle and play 9-10 minutes to keep everyone else fresher. Fuck not having that for the outdated concept of having a “nuclear deterrent” fighter. It’s complete utter bullshit and it needs to end. I love Murray but he’s fucking dead wrong on this one thing and he has been since he got him.

        • Aaron 2.0

          Lol. You described exactly how i’ve felt about Kassion from day 1. If the only thing people say positive about him is “he didn’t cost us” then what’s the point? Stop worrying about fights. I’d much rather have an effective 4th line that can play hockey.

          • Righteous Smoke

            Because it’s better to have players that don’t fight, who turn the puck over 20 times in a game? Can’t blame Kassian, the Defense is absolutely atrocious, even most of the games the Sens have won this season have been pretty ugly. In my opinion if they were against better teams the record would be 2-12-4. The absolutely glaring mindnumbing stupid fucking defensive zone turnovers neeeed to stop or this team will on the outside looking in come playoff time.

          • John

            Your point makes no sense? We have 20 better players than Kassian. Ones with actual hockey sense who will make the 4th line playable and effective. Kassian is an anchor and his mere existence makes the line ineffective. Period. Please tell me you don’t believe he has above Jr. B hockey skills?

          • Righteous Smoke

            My point is how does blaming Kassian for the teams play this season make any fucking sense whatsoever????
            I haven’t seen him turn the puck over almost every fucking shift like Cowen is doing…

          • Roar…

            So.. your point is that you’re not very good at reading. Nobody is blaming Kassian for the teams failures. We’re stating that without him the team could ice a 4th line for 8-9 minutes a night of effective hockey. With him they can’t do that. He’s an anchor who can’t really play hockey – that’s not what he does. He makes us a 3 line team and it’s stupid to be a 3 line team in today’s NHL, is our point.

          • Aaron 2.0

            I’m not blaming him for the loss. He’s not really ever responsible for a loss. It’s just that he not really responsible for doing anything, other than hitting other people with that are payed to do the same thing.

          • John

            Ditto. I think most of the intelligent hockey universe echos the feeling too. Most infuriating is that Ottawa already has Neil, Smith, Boro and Cowen. Not to mention Methot & Greening. We have no shortage of physical players who can fight if need be. Kassian only fights one player… another Kassian… who gives a fuck and who does that help? Does he even have a fight this season? Whoopy fuckin doo.

    • Jacques

      That greening signing looks brutal right now,

  • Tooks

    Ya if were blaming Kassian for our downfall we have serious issues!!

  • SensFanInMTL

    I’d like to blame Condra for his lack of effort but he’s a 3rd or 4th liner. And he wasn’t even playing. So Erik, congrats on avoiding the fan bullet.

    • SensFanInMTL

      We also still have a shot at Josh Ho-Sang in the 2nd round, as long as his stock doesn’t rise to the 1st round.

  • Sensturion

    How bad did the team play tonight? Excluding Zibby, Grant and Kassian, everyone was -1 on the night. In short, everyone shat the bed defensively at some point tonight. Ha!

  • Aaron 2.0

    Bishop just had a real solid shootout performance. All of the teams need to chase down gained on us tonight. TB = 2 pts; Mtl = 1 pt; Det = 1 pt. Bummer.

  • SensFanInMTL

    TSN Ottawa’s reporters are reporting of an Alfie chant and the constant booing. As much as we are all bitching and moaning, I do not think that’s the best thing to do considering it’s a direct slap to the face of Spezza.

    • Tony Gallo

      Was at the game… sorry but the team’s play was a direct slap in the face of the 16,300 fans who paid for their ticket, concessions, parking… the Alfie cheer was really the “entertaining” part of the game (even if it wasnt appropriate).

  • Jacques

    I’ll never get back those 90 minutes I wasted before tuning out! Watching this team is no where as exciting as watching last years team! Go Figure! This team needs something…. a big trade maybe.

    • Mat

      I believe this team needs a budget. Maybe.

  • Mat

    For those listening to TSN1200, another move I would like to see is White down, Dono up. Wow Todd, tone down the intensity…

  • SensFanInMTL

    We’ve officially blown up on this site. I take full responsibility for everyone here getting angry and I accept all that is to be thrown to me. We need to stoop to levels low though. That’s right fellas:

    To Minnesota:
    Milan Michalek

    To Ottawa:
    Dany Heatley

    That’s right boys. Someone mentioned it here about Spezza needing to stop playing by himself. Who but the man scored 50 goals twice? Blind pass after another but Heatley was always there to net it in. This is not a desperation move, but as they say in Chinese, it’s better to deal with the devil you know, than Michalek with ailing knee caps.

    • Millennium

      right, and lets get Cheechoo on the other side, since he’s a 50-goal guy too…..

      /facepalm

      • SensFanInMTL

        No? Why would we want Cheechoo back when we bought him out? He wasn’t as effective as Dany was. Durr.

        • Millennium

          Obviously you don’t understand sarcasm.

          Not only would I not want Heatley back if he paid us, but his decline has been epic. he is currently playing 4th line minutes and on pace for a whopping 18 points.

          • SensFanInMTL

            That’s just it my man. He’s as bad as we are. We’d have nothing to lose.

  • http://bftc-ehm.forumotion.com/ argun31

    Craig Anderson for Erik Gudbranson & Scott Clemmensen

    &

    Cory Conacher ++ for a top 6 forward who can play with Spezza.

    • Robert Lepage

      How about Stone for Malkin and Letang?

  • T K

    Chirp, i think that skipping the post-game highlights post would be well tolerated. Time for a new topic. Go any rubber duckies to find?

    • H POTTER

      Lol

  • T K

    When I hear the music for the Sens’ commercial “I’m on fiiiiiire”, all I can visualize after tonight’s game is a buddhist monk in a Sens jersey with a can of gasoline and a match….

    (intended solely for humour, don’t try this at home, kids)

  • 57gord

    PMAC is scared to DEATH.(his own words)………….I thought we were Fearless this year !!? Is he loosing this group?

  • hq8

    so can we already call the conacher trade a bust. thanks to that trade, tampa now gets to win a whole lot more games than they did last season AND be in our division AND be ahead of us. Bishop already with 12 wins. not saying we should have kept him instead of andy and lehner, but man, couldnt murray have got anything else? LIKE A DEFENSEMAN?????

    conman just doesnt have the same finish he showed with Tampa. he has fizzled out. ever since his initial burst of performance with tampa, he has not produced. from playing on tampa’s top lines, he has gone to a complete mixed bag with Maclean. guy has heart and speed, but where is the finish??? lets admit it, yzerman caught murray big time with this one. not only is bishop in the same conference now, he is in the same damn division.

    also, on the topic of goalies, way to go maclean by starting andy. if anything has been clear this season, its that andy is not at his best and lehner is actually bailing the team out.

  • senate19

    So my thoughts:

    Call-up time. The reason we had success last year is because of the call-ups playing with nothing to lose and everything to gain. Bring up Hoffman and/or Prince maybe, or whoever else is playing well.

    I thought Michalek on the 3rd line with Smith looked decent when it happened. Zibanejad up in the top 6 with Spezza and Hoffman might be more effective. Spezza wasn’t the ‘worst’ player last night in my opinion.

    That said, whether they should or shouldn’t happen, changes will happen.

    Also, whether or not Mac wanted it, we’re going to have a goalie controversy. Lehner will have to start on Thursday and he’s going to play excellent again. The team will play better in front of him and Anderson will have to sit.

    I haven’t seen the team play such uninspired hockey in a long time.

    • RUSH RLZ

      I would bench half the team, if possible, after that abysmal effort. So I am all for a roster shake-up. Bring up anyone we can from Bingo and send a message.

      Also whateverTF we are trying to prove by juggling lines around non-stop.. having Spezza on the second line trying to ‘reinvent his game’ and all that happy shit needs to stop.

      • senate19

        I’d be more than surprised if that’s what is really going on. In my opinion, the Turris line moves their legs quickly and that makes Spezza look slow. That is the first thing.
        Secondly, they’re obviously not clicking as a line, likely due to the juggling.

        Spezza’s talent is still there, and it was on display last night. I noticed he made some incredible passes, even if they weren’t received well.

        His style is much different than the style of the Turris line and it’s making him look a lot worse than he is. That said, he’s not playing perfect either. Not sure if it’s injury still or a lack of confidence. You can be sure he’s not happy. Remember the F bomb he dropped after losing a face off in the OZ the other week?

  • RUSH RLZ

    *growl hiss roar*

    Last night effing sucked and I slept angry all night. This season so far has been anything but rosy but still that may have been the worst EFFORT I’ve seen from the Sens in a long time. WTF?

    Something has got to give here… many of our assets have been plummeting in value and not even sure how much we can improve via a trade unless we give up too much…

    It is asinine to suggest we make a coaching change so early especially given the prominence last year of the Stache but WTF do we need to do to get the team jumpin’ a little bit?

    Frig.

  • SensChirp
  • Andersonfan41

    I don’t if anybody agree with me but does Rick Wamsley need to go through
    video and work with Anderson during or after practice to get his game back on
    track or at the same level as last season?