Game Day- Please Win

SensChirp March 16, 2014 358
Game Day- Please Win

Last night happened. If you’re like me, you woke up thinking it all must have been a horrible nightmare. But it was real.  A combination of half assed defence/goaltending and disgustingly awful officiating led to the biggest collapse in franchise history.

The first version of this Game Day post included a lengthy rant about how disgusted I was with the referees last night but at some point, you just need to accept that sub-par officiating is a reality in the National Hockey League.  Thankfully all the brightest minds in the game got together at GM’s Meetings last week and decided the only problem with hockey right now was faceoffs.  It has reached a point where if the Senators are playing on a Saturday night in Montreal or Toronto, you can be absolutely 100% certain they are going to get the short end of the calls. Every single time.

Anyway, last night happened. But it’s time to move on.  Less than 24 hours after the collapse, an angry Ottawa Senators team return home to face the high flying Colorado Avalanche.

If I was realistically talking about playoffs before last night’s game, I probably should before this one as well.  Ottawa comes into this evening’s game in a six point hole although it feels more like 60 after last night’s loss.  Sports Club Stats gives the Senators a 10% chance of making the playoffs which after last night seems a little high.  A win over Colorado and some favourable results from the out of town scoreboard would bring that up to just over 15%. They’ll need to go 10-3-3 to give themselves a shot. So, ya.

No morning skate so we’ll have to wait to hear from MacLean if he has any line up changes planned.

Michalek-Spezza-Hemsky
MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
Greening-Smith-Neil
Hoffman-Zibanejad-Condra

Methot-Karlsson
Phillips-Ceci
Cowen-Gryba

MacLean would not rule Anderson out for this one when he spoke to the media yesterday so we’ll have to wait until a little closer to game time for word on a starter.  Puck drop is scheduled for just after 5:00 PM.

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    Honestly at this point who cares

    • SensChirp

      I’m gonna guess you do since you posted this comment about four minutes after the post went up :)

      Hang in there. It’s been a tough season for all of us.

      • Jacques

        Haha, we’re poor suckers who love punishment! Between the Sens and the Expos it’s been a tough existence so far! Thank God I cheer for the Colts in Football!

        • 0000000011110101010101

          PACKERS !

          • Richard Gough

            Go Packers !!!!!

        • Courageous23

          My NHL teams are the Canucks and the Sens… CFL is the Lions, and NFL is the Seahawks, who have finally come through for us! Never give up! LOL

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Tough loss but lets move on and hopefully we show some fight today. GO SENS GO

  • Conor_smythe

    woooooo!

    at least we can still make the playoffs!!! oh wait

    at least we can still tank for the 1st overall!! oh wait

    at least we can play spoiler for other teams (looks at the remaining opponents) oh wait

    even though we have absolutely nothing going for us, I would have considered this season a overwhelming victory if we had just let Phillips walk

    I’ve never hated myself for being a sens fan until this year

    gooo sens

    • Chicago Cubs Fan

      BAHHH !

      You haven’t suffered enough.

  • Colin

    From the last blog post:

    Morton and Pochmara are reffing tonight’s game. Morton reffed the Habs game with Furlatt last night. Nice of the NHL to let him have another crack at the Sens so soon.

    NHL ref assignments can be found here:

    http://broadcast.nhl.com/nhlgmntsv3.nsf/viewPortalByDate?OpenView&RestrictToCategory=-+View+All+-&Count=100

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      I will repost what I said… Who gives a shit about the two points, operation fire pucks at furlatt all night

      • Moudy Mahfouz

        you are a beauty lmao

    • Sensturion

      While I don’t condone stuff being thrown on the ice, I wouldn’t be surprised if something is thrown towards Morton tonight…

  • Pasky

    As much as last night sucked, that game wasn’t the one that caused this team the season. This team had been plagued with sup-par defense and the goaltending has been unable to bail them out like last year.

    And this has probably been one of the most Jekyll and Hyde teams I’ve seen in years. This is the list of winning streaks to team has this year, longer than 2 games:

    Nov 5th – Nov 9th: 3 Games
    Dec 28th – Jan 4th: 4 Games

    THATS IT!!!!!!!!!!!

    The fact that this team hasn’t been to string more than 2 3-game winning streaks all season shows that they don’t have any business being in the playoffs this year. Not to mention, between these 2 streaks the team went through a 23 game streak without winning 2 games in a row. That is unacceptable for a team that considered themselves a playoff team.

    • PraiseAlfie11

      Yup…

    • Pasky

      Another thing, everyone here bitching about how much ice time Greening-Smith-Condra got last night compared to the stars… They each had between 4-7 minutes of shorthanded time-on-ice… Yes the refs suck and should probably die in a fire once in a while but this team has been highly undisciplined all year long. If the stars want more ice time, STAY OUT OF THE FUCKING BOX!!!!!

      Rant (hopefully) over

  • PraiseAlfie11

    The sad thing is that we may have a coach go from jack adams to the streets in one season.

    Hopefully BM lets the team remain as-is up front and let the pink slips fly on the 1st day of training camp. Anyone who shows up in poor conditioning is gone.

    • Jacques

      Even up front there needs to be changes, we have young guys in a Bingo chomping at the bit!

      • PraiseAlfie11

        Honestly, I don’t care about the guys in bingo. They might work out in the nhl, they might not. People here are so pumped about prospects. Look at Rundblad…this guy was made out to be the 2nd coming of christ. How’s his AHL career coming along?

        I would suggest that if you score 4 and find a way to lose, you don’t blame the goal scorers for the loss. Our defense is a gong show and if you try to draft those guys, the guys we have now will be long gone by the time the new guys hit their stride.

        • Jacques

          Ok so Greening, Condra,Neil, and Smith can’t be upgraded, then let’s Just keep the same shit for the next five years and keep sucking!!!!

          • PraiseAlfie11

            You’re not going to replace them with bingo players is what I’m saying.

            PS: pretty sure 3/4 of that list are recent calder cup champs? Get my point now?

        • TookieIs100PercentRight

          Agree on Bingo. Everytime I hear Richardson come on the radio I swtich channels, who cares. Think New Jersey is the only team to have a Calder Cup and Stanley Cup in close proximity.

          GIVE ME SOME BEEF, SOME PREEEMO PRIMO RIB-O. Of course, Melnyk would rather go to the Olympics in London than give the TEAM some MONEY. We need a new owner AND FAST!

          TOOKS100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Young team, stupid defensive breakdowns, I get the season is slipping away but this is considered year 3 of the “rebuilding process”. I really have faith in this group of guys, a few minor changes and another D and I really like our chances. This is basically a new team, with a lot of young talent on it, we need time to gel, GO SENS GO

  • Cicero

    I BELIEVE! Okay, tbh there’s a bit more wishful thinking this morning than yesterday at this time. Chirp, your blog headlines crack me up. Next one: “Game Day-My Firstborn For A Win…”

  • laffin681021

    At least we didn’t collapse in playoffs right? Ha. Anyone? Anyone?

  • Jacques

    Not taking calls from family members today cuz they are all F-ing Habs fans! Laying low! My wife making excuses for me haha! I guess I’m out shopping all day, Not! Come on boys just win!

    • Sens613

      What are you, shopping for a new team? Lol.
      Don’t do it.

      • Jacques

        Hanging tough on that one, have to much Sens gear round the house to switch!

  • CrazyFish

    Last night summed up the whole year for me, the Sens have found a way to lose games all year and last night was no different. They really seem to like to shoot themselves in the foot all the time. I really hope they overhaul the defense in the off season which sadly will be starting all too soon.

  • sprucesens

    A few things i hope we accomplish this season. Sign hemsky and hoffman to 1 way contracts. Either sign michalek for cheap, or let him walk. I prefer walk, but we have to make it to the floor somehow…. We realized cowen is not top 4, and we treat him as a 5/6 until he earns more ice time. Next year, we realize we won’t win when our stars aren’t getting ice time. One of condra or greening have to be gone. There are better options in Bingo who are ready to prove they are NHL ready, and need a shot on the 3rd line. And we need to go into the season knowing we will only win 2pts against each of montreal and toronto, because thats all the ref’s will allow.

    • Jacques

      No don’t mention Bingo, I did earlier, people would rather plod along with Neil,Condra,Greening, and Smith. Even though Bingo is the highest scoring team in the AHL?

      • sprucesens

        i don’t mind smith and neil in 4th line engery minutes. But that only leaves 1 of the other 2 for that final spot.

        • Jacques

          Neil is starting to decline big time and he takes stupid penalties, Kramer might be the guy soon.

      • Chicago Cubs Fan

        It’s all about the money there Polkaroo.
        Look at the hoops that BM had to jump through to get Hemsky.

        A Callup mean paying another NHL salary
        EM isn ‘t willing to do it.

        • Jacques

          Let’s not go crazy on this subject, hell he’ll be getting close to 50 million in tv money every year starting next year! Don’t think the budget will be a problem going forward!

        • Simple Jack

          I Down vote your answer, you dont know. So dont talk about things your not sure of. Its like high school all over again, rumors dont mean shit.

          *besides, your a baseball fan, your at best a fairweather sens fan. you cant go from being a fan of baseball (the most boring sport) to a high intensity sport like hockey.

  • Sens613

    Total train wreck last night! Started with BR giveaway which reminded me of CP’s, bad goaltending from RL(one amazing save and a lot of misfires from Mtl players), total team defense was no where to be found, and of course those phantom calls from the refs.

    Bright spot is that Spezza and Hemsky continue rolling hot! Going to the game today so let the hockey gods help the team with a little puck luck. Ah screw it I’m just gonna start getting drunk.

    GSG we win 3-2(wishful thinking)

  • Roar…

    I’d like to point out that last nights game isn’t that much of an abnormality for Ottawa. Letting points slip away has been a problem all year for the inconsistent Sens. They have a .731 winning % when leading after 2 periods. This is good for 4th last in the entire NHL.

    Not being able to play well defensively/in general in 3rd periods has been a big issue for this hockey team. We’ve given a way a lot of points/games in that final frame.

  • Simple Jack

    what disturbs me is when we start over time, the guys on the ice are not the guys who should be on the ice. also with maclean riding anderson hard and not giving every 3rd or 4th game to lehner, our once top prospect is looking shellshocked from lack of play.

    i agree with the tsn1200 caller last night that we need luc richardson as an assistant coach. not sure why murray has continued to hire coaches/coaching staff with little to no nhl experience.

    i believe in mclean, i think he could be better, he needs an experienced guy to get info from. Our players we play in the last mins of a hockey game and in overtime need to be your best. also hoffman doesn’t yet have any reason to be on the #1 power play over more experienced and higher profile players or your goto guy in overtime.

  • Kumar

    We need to get rid of those two clowns standing besides McLean. Secondly, we can’t do anything with the zebra clowns. Lehner has given 22 goals in 4 games. He needs his focus back and needs lots of work in handling the puck.
    We have a young D crop and hopefully will get better with years. Now we have two solid lines and need an upgrade of Stone or Puempel for Zibanejaad line.

  • thepez

    I hate to use the officials as an excuse for last night, however the inconsistencies are too many to mention. What do you expect from a league that allowed a goal to be scored after it hit the back of the mesh above the glass. Or from a league that encourages hits to the head or hits from behind but calls hooking penalties when a stick touches a guys pant. Of course you only get calls against you when you lead so that the other team has a chance to come back.

    Can’t wait for the playoffs to start so that we can go back to the time where big body hockey will beat high skilled teams and the refs will put the whistle away so that the players can decide the outcome of the game. And that is why the NHL will always be looked at as a second rate pro league….

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    One of the reffs is the same as last night

    Have the whole crowd chant BULLSHIT for the first 5 minutes of the game

    Do something to show the league this crap cant continue

  • Sandy

    I’m not going to rant about the stripes again.. did enough of that last night. The point is, these refs have been bad for most of the season — making mistakes costing teams points.
    There is no retribution against the refs at all. No fines… no suspensions, and until that happens we can expect to have the crap like we saw last night. It’s not only happening to the Sens but to a lot of teams not named Habs & Leafs & Detroit.
    The Sens have to go into the rest of the season expecting no breaks from the officials. Expect to be screwed by them.. then they won’t get upset.
    Go Sens Go.. Just play MAD. Spezza was pissed last night.. so was McArthur & Ryan.. Turn that anger into good hard play and beat the Avs..

  • FistsofNeil25

    Last night’s game summed up the Sens season perfectly. Poor start to the game, undisciplined throughout the night, bad officiating, bad goaltending, awful defense, questionable allocation of of ice-time. It truly had it all. What a night..

    • PraiseAlfie11

      They played well for 37 minutes.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    philly wins

  • FistsofNeil25

    How the coaching staff and management failed to correct this teams defensive issues this season is honestly incredible. The same problems we had at the beginning of the season are the same ones we’re still witnessing night after night.

    This team doesn’t have a clue how to defend. I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen anything this bad. It’s not just the 6 defensemen we dress on a nightly basis… it’s the entire team.

    Is it the system that’s flawed? Are the players not capable? Are the not committed enough? I think it’s all of the above.

  • T K

    I watched the game on the PVR last night. Was in a great mood until roughly 2 AM when I was left stunned speechless.

    - I got my 26th Hattrick and couldn’t bring myself to care.
    - I’d love to be able to use the Access To Information Act on the NHL. I’d love to be allowed to read the emails that go between officials and to the league about officiating. I’m sure that many embarrassing things would be exposed.
    - I’d love to survey fans across all teams to be able to rate which ones feel like the refs are influencing the outcomes of their team’s games the most.
    - While Robin played fairly well especially in the first 40 after the initial goal, I found that his positioning was somewhat “floppy” if that word can be used in this context. Andy may not have been able to play any better but his mental fortitude in the final 5 minutes would have been more focused. I hope that he’s back soon.

    I abhor nothing more than seeing the Sens lose to Mtl and T.O.. I hate seeing smiles on their fans’ faces. The only comfort I take is that the Sens are probably the best team to make Montrealers cry.

  • Mitchell

    I hate the French they are complete a-holes every time I’m on vacations there first to cut in-line. Demand and not asked. Pigged faced and thong wearing p-ricks. I hate that are jersey has anything French on it. The fact that we do both languages before puck drop and Montreal only does French (at arena) why should we bother. Quebec has been dying to be apart of the states for as long as I can remember. It’s time to cut that French connection bullshit on our jerseys and keep that s-hit in the toilet seat with the rest of habs.

    • Sensturion

      Wow. Just wow. Hey Chirp, anyway of banning this guy because that was just… wow.

      • Mitchell

        A ban? From expressing my personal experiences with the French? That would be French.

        • Jacques

          Must have been a lot of inbreeding in your family!

          • Mitchell

            Inbreeding? Really.

          • sprucesens

            not to go to name calling or all that, but my experience with french people have been mostly negative as well. not all, obviously, and certainly not the people on here. My most recent was on a trip in mexico. The hotel organiser was asking where everyone was from. They said quebec. Then the guy was like, oh canada, thats great! Then the dick said “No, quebec, not canada.” obviously very small part, and like someone said, its the separtists that are probably like that. But thats not a very respectful view to be sending out 1000′s of km from your home. Anyways, i don’t dislike anybody until they give me reason to, and i think we could all get along like that. I’m sure mitchell’s comment was more towards habs and their fans…

      • SENSsmile

        I fully support the motion to have this guy banned from SensChirp. Anyone else?

        • Courageous23

          Count me in.

    • PraiseAlfie11

      Umm…the montreal canadiens always do english and french announcements?

      • Mitchell

        From the game I was there. I heard nothing English. Only the players names.

        • PraiseAlfie11

          I would be shocked if that was the case. All intros, anthem, goals and 3 stars have always been done in both english and french.

          You need to separate the french into 2 groups: Federalist and separatists. There’s nothing wrong with the first group.

          • Mitchell

            That’s why I mentioned this. I was curious and asked my friend who is a Montreal fan. And only went because it was against my second favorite team St. Louis. He said they always do it this way. But on tv it’s done but ways. And yes I didn’t he’s any English during the 3 stars

          • Jacques

            Where are you from, the Arkansas part of Ontario?

          • Mitchell

            Your names Jacques… Do I need to go any further.

          • SENSsmile

            Il ne faut pas perdre notre temps avec ces ignorants, Jacques.

            English translation: there’s no point wasting any time with useless, ignorant trolls.

    • Sensturion

      Also, for a guy that is anti-everything French, you made quite a few English mistakes.

      • Mitchell

        No, everything is spelt correctly. Grammar wise… I’m not a major. Taking it that you are?

        • sprucesens

          just to be a dink, its “spelled”

    • SENSsmile

      Moderator, this ignorant, anti-French rant is completely unacceptable. Let’s keep these boards civil and focused on hockey, please!

    • Charles William

      Feel better now Mr. Poo?
      You are one sick puppy – get help – Oh! wait! You are beyond help

  • Sandy

    Lehner starts today. Andy not ready..
    Question is .. where is Lehner’s ‘head’ at? What has Walmsley done to him..
    I hope those fans going to the game remember the name Morton from last night..

  • FistsofNeil25

    As a guy who was hard on Spezza for most of the season when he was struggling, I gotta say, this guy has been pure magic lately. You can tell he’s starting to get his strength back and with his new wing-man Hemsky, he’s trying to put this team on his back.

    It’s so unfortunate that early in the season when the team needed Spezza to be his best he was struggling to regain his form and stay healthy. Now that he’s on fire and looking like the old Jason Spetzky we used to know, the rest of the team can’t get their act together.

    I just thought I would acknowledge Spezza’s awesome play of late. He deserves some props after the rough first half he had. His efforts aren’t going unnoticed here. It’s too bad that it’s pretty much too late for the team now.

    • Sensnation

      The sad part is, the difference between early this season and now is that pass on the Hemsky goal becomes a turnover earlier this year because no one else realizes that’s where they need to be. Chemistry is a huge for skill players!

    • Sandy

      Instead of training last offseason.. Spezza was rehabbing his back surgery. Big difference.. Same can be said of Cowen.
      Offseason training for both of them should get them off to better starts next season.
      It’s up to Melnyk to spend some of that TV revenue on the team. What you see this season — some of it – can be attributed to his unwillingness to spend… see Alfie..

  • Sensnation

    Yesterday so many of you had hope and faith. We get a point and somehow everyone sounds lost today! It was a shit show by the refs but WE GOT A POINT!!!

    GO SENS GO!!!

    • PraiseAlfie11

      I appreciate the bright side view, but playoff teams don’t blow a 4-1 lead with 3 minutes left in the game…especially when the chances of being in the playoffs is on the line.

      A win was critical last night, and its not just me saying it. BM was reported as still going at the refs well after the game. Zach Smith was literally crying on the bench. They had a chance to catch mtl for a wildcard spot…now there’s no way.

      • Sensnation

        Either way before last night we needed some wins and some overtime losses. We got an overtime loss. Didn’t really change much, it’s still an uphill battle but as I said we got a point.

        The teams in 7th and 8th place in playoffs are teams that blow leads as well! Perfection is not needed to be a playoff team.

        • WaitingSince92

          Correction – we do NOT need overtime losses. We NEED wins. We’re going
          to be 7 points out starting tonight’s game. An OT loss when other
          teams win still means we lose ground.

          And no, perfection is not needed to make the playoffs, but we’re going to have to win about 80% of our game just to have a chance.

          Fuck loser points. They are no consolation.

          • Sensnation

            Don’t correct me if your math makes zero sense. That was just stupid. If we only get OT losses for our losses going forward we will be just fine.

          • Courageous23

            Much of the time, an OT loss is something, but not when the team you lose to is the one you are chasing. At that point, instead of gaining 2 points on them, you lose 1. If the team you are chasing loses their game in regulation, and you lose in OT, then you gain on them.

      • Sandy

        The point of the matter is, no way in the last 15 sec of the game Mtl should have had a 6 to 4 advantage on the ice.. It should have been 5 to 4 IF the refs called the tripping penalty.. and the 4th goal probably would not have happened.. and we wouldn’t be complaining… as much.. today.
        Don’t worry.. two weeks after the Sens season ends at the end of the regular season.. Mtl will be joining the Sens on the golf course. They are not built for the playoffs… the Sens are.. but they can’t get there. They would have to run the table to the end of the season.. and that’s not happening.

        A loss today totally seals their fate

  • romeo&julian

    yes spezza has been amazing to watch since the hemsky trade. just goes to show you the guy still has plenty of game left. too bad he was saddled with smith and condra as his linemates the entire season. And I like both players, I think they can be effective when used within their parameters, but asking a guy like zack smith to be a first line winger was just beyond stupid. and good on spezza, I am so tired hearing all the negative criticism the last 10 yrs from fans/media/coaches etc. It all started when he was drafted and marshall Johnston said he needed to work on his skating. Then Jacques martin cuts him, later benches him in the playoffs and says hes still a boy in a mans league. The fact spezza has NEVER said anything negative about this organization is a testament to his character.

  • MB

    Only player that has really stepped up and to my amazement and shock is Spezza. I’m far from convinced he’s the go to guy but there are far greater problems in Ottawa than him if you can even consider him a problem at this point (still debatable). He keeps doing what he’s doing right now then you will find more people supporting hm as the captain and a big piece in Ottawa.

    Team defense… well that’s the biggest issue by a mile on top of team discipline. Everyone is to blame for that.

    • Sandy

      Has the defense been as bad the past 2 seasons.. but the goaltending was great covering that up?

      • PraiseAlfie11

        I think so.

      • MB

        Defense and team are younger, mistakes are made. This season could just be a case, mixed in with the last 2 seasons… 2 steps forward, 1 step back. Sucks as a fan but sometimes a team needs a season like this to see where they are at, where they want to build, and what needs to be improved. Also lets the coach and GM see who has packed it in and who hasn’t… again to my amazement Spezza has stepped it up when I personally thought he was going to crash and burn.

        Goaltending… well it hasn’t been great. Lehner is still 22 and obviously needs to mature more before he’s given the net. Anderson is bouncing back as well but he got off to a rocky start.

        At the end of the day the team defense is the most concerning area. That’s not the defensemen either, that’s defense from the centers, wingers, and D men within the system. You can bring in who ever you want on the blueline but unless they have 23 guys committed to playing 200 feet this team will spin their wheels. Also need a little more character, mix of scoring and grit with some size up front.

        • Sandy

          Maybe once the pressure to make the playoffs is gone.. this team can just have fun and play hockey.. the way they can.

  • romeo&julian

    And speaking of the collapse last night, I think the disappointment I felt was on par with three other games (all of which occurred in the 2004 season vs the leafs).

    1) Feb 5th, 2004 – the infamous “flu” game, sens blow 4-0 lead, enough said.

    2) April 16th, 2004 – Game 5, with the series tied at 2-2, the sens go into Toronto to play a depleted Leafs team and lay the stinkiest egg ive ever seen in my life. This is still the most atrocious game I have ever witnessed in person in my entire life. both teams looked completely flat and lifeless. Toronto gets a late 3rd period goal to win the game.

    3) April 20th, 2004 – Game 7, Patrick Lalime decides this is the game he wants to do his best Darrin Madeley impression and lets in 2 identical goals from the blueline to joe nieuwendyk. Leafs go up 3-0 and game is over before it even started.

    I still believe the 2004 Senators was the best sens team ever assembled in franchise history and the fact they could not get by an injury riddled leafs team still distraughts me to this day. I mean look at this lineup.

    bondra-white-alfredsson
    varada-bonk-hossa
    havlat-spezza-smolinski
    schaefer-fisher-neil

    redden-pothier
    chara-phillips
    volchenkov-devries

    Belfour played amazing and was the difference.

  • LeafsSux

    Not sure why but im gonna watch this game today..

    • Sensnation

      Because you’re a Sens fan. Shouldn’t need more reason than that!

  • Floridasensfan

    Another shit show from the refs, been a while.
    To call the refs professionals is a total joke.
    Positives from the game Hoffman can friggin fly, I thought it was Karlsson bringing the puck down the ice last night.

    • Sandy

      Mr. Morton has to prove he can ref a game.. and that he does have integrity.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        I hope someone dumps a drink on him multiple times while entering/leaving the ice.

  • romeo&julian

    haha youre watching the same reason im watching…sens 7 pts behind rangers. if rangers lose today to san jose and sens win today then they are 5 pts back with 2 games in hand. they play the rangers the next game and win that one and theyre 3 pts back with 2 games still in hand. That’s the glass half full.

    The glass half empty is sens need to beat the avs today, something they haven’t done since zdeno chara still played for this team…0-6 since then, so maybe theyre due!!!!

    • Mat

      Another game, another equation… Lets all call a spade a spade. It might help us enjoy what’s left of this shit season.

  • sprucesens

    from tsn website….”After the game, referees apparently told Ottawa captain Jason Spezza that there was no whistle on the play because the building was too loud.”

    • sprucesens

      this was on the game winning goal. que-est que fuck?

    • Sandy

      I guess the ref — his ears have to work before the eyes can see.

    • Sensnation

      http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/

      His post game interview actually explains that he was saying the refs couldn’t hear what the players were yelling at him because the building was too loud. I think in all the immediate emotion it got portrayed as the reason it wasn’t blown, but it was just the reason they couldn’t get the explanation.

      • Aaron 2.0

        That’s what I figured would eventually come out. It didn’t make any sense otherwise.

      • CUP 2014-15

        Well that’s a great freakin excuse. BR can hear him saying it’s too loud but he cant answer as to why they were awful at their job to epic proportions last night.

  • luckan20

    Must win game. Can Lehner hold his fort ????

  • Sandy

    Okay fans at the game. at opening puck drop, Morton you suck..

  • Sensnation

    I truly hope last night is the TSN turning point on our season! Boys need to come out today and prove they want to make the post season. I don’t care who the opponent is the rest of the way, just play our game and leave it all out on the ice!

    Go Sens Go!

  • CUP 2014-15

    Good day all, look, I know things look glim after last night but yesterday we had 9 points to spare and this morning we have 8. Pretty straight forward that you will need 93 points to get in. Team has 69, meaning we need 24 of a possible 32. Lets just wake up with those 8 points still in the pocket tomorrow.
    Last night was as frustrating as you can get but that was a win. Not going to get into the trip on Greening, the greening contact so no goal even though he was tripped, bla,bla,bla.. This team went into a tough building and weathered the storm, took control and as we all know, even with the crap officiating, they were still ahead. We need to win today and wake up tomorrow with those 8 beautiful big points.
    Need a big day from our forward group again and Hoffman is looking like something special so let’s pick him and his limited TOI to be the difference today. GO SENS GO

    • Aaron 2.0

      I realize that in the past it’s been pretty consistent at 93 pts, but, we had conference re-alignment (including an influx of 2 superior teams, with the jets leaving), and huge over-haul of game scheduling. I think that cut-off is harder to predict than previous years, until we know the effects of these changes (in a few years time).

  • CUP 2014-15

    That’s what we need

    • Sensnation

      Great first few shifts!

  • romeo&julian

    bobby ryannnn!!!!…misses the net…theres a guy whos getting the benefit of the doubt more than he should. first 35 games, 16 goals, 16 assists, 32 points…since then 31 games, 6 goals, 8 assists, 14 points. is he still sulking from the team usa snub? get over it dude.
    this team needs to sign mike brodeur and give him a start to go on an eleven game winning streak like they did in 2010.

    • Brock

      46 points in 66 games is still pretty decent if you ask me. He’s also a +9 on a team that allows a shitload of goals.

  • CUP 2014-15

    Av’s there for the taking today. Good forcheck from Sens let’s go boy

  • Sensnation

    Good first period. D pairings all looking pretty strong on both ends right now. Hemsky just makes things happen, really impressed with him!

  • Sandy

    When was the last time the Sens went an entire period.. especially the first period.. without a penalty called against them? Make up game, Mr. Morton?

  • Shibal

    Matt Puempel scored another goal today on the pp for his 23rd of the season. All this guy does is score goals. He is also the youngest player on the bingo team.

    • karlssens

      3rd is rookie scoring. But youngest of the rookies. Pure sniper.

    • luckan20

      How is Bingo doing in the play-off Hunt ??? I know they had 5-6 losses

    • CUP 2014-15

      NATURAL!!! goal scorer, pure and simple.

  • luckan20

    It was a shitty call and Roy facial expression was a good answer

  • karlssens

    Have to think Stone gets a look at a full time spot before Puempel though. Wouldn’t mind seeing Puempel get another year in the minors.

    • CUP 2014-15

      So Detroit Red Wings of you

  • karlssens

    Our fan base sucks. This building is empty. So quiet

  • CUP 2014-15

    that’s sick hands by hoff

  • Brock

    Hoffman making things happen again.

    • FistsofNeil25

      He’s looked pretty good on this most recent call-up. Hopefully he works his ass off this summer knowing that he’s capable of being a good player in this league. It would be great to see him grab a full time spot on this team going forward. His speed is a great asset that this team desperately needs.

  • CUP 2014-15

    HIT THE F#@$ING NET

  • FistsofNeil25

    I wonder what the stats look like for missed nets. We must lead the league in that category.

  • Sandy

    Sens need practice on how to hit the net

    • FistsofNeil25

      That’s 9 or 10 so far this afternoon.

  • CUP 2014-15

    SOG 14-1 OTT IN 2ND

  • karlssens

    We just need a win here!! We would be 5 pts back with 2 games in hand

  • CUP 2014-15

    Milo has one coming soon and its going to be a beauty

  • FistsofNeil25

    Ohhhh man Clarkie almost lit up Duchene.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Benoit with a snipe… Just another former Senator to come back and burn the team.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    sucks we have played pretty decent…We really need this W

    • CUP 2014-15

      no kidding, we need our high paid top six to do something here, if you don’t score it’s hard to win.

  • Sandy

    Sens had their chances… just couldn’t score..

    • CUP 2014-15

      What do you mean had, thought this was the 2nd period, come on, lets not give up here, They have been the better team thus far today

  • karlssens

    Look Lehner, that’s how it’s done!

    • Sensnation

      What are you blaming Lehner for?

      • karlssens

        Just angry in general

        • Sensnation

          Venting is more than understandable, I get it.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Stupid Varlamov! How is this guy even allowed to play in the NHL this season after assaulting his girlfriend?!

  • 4thStringGoalie

    Whats up with potvin throwing philips under the bus. The sens had players back, someone just decided to challenge the guy at the side boards to cause a 3-1

    • FistsofNeil25

      Hemsky

  • Sensnation

    Score got worse, but felt that period was even better. Still a close game and the sens know how to come back when needed. Let’s keep up the pressure boys!

    • FistsofNeil25

      I appreciate their effort in that period. They played pretty well. They just need to find a way to capitalize on their chances right now. I can imagine they’re all gripping their sticks pretty tight.

      The only thing they can do better is try to get some more traffic in front of Varly. He’s seeing everything right now but he’s also giving up a few juicy rebounds but we don’t have anyone around the net to take advantage.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    At least NYR lost…That game on tuesday is going to be huge

  • Sandy

    Laffs lost, Carolina lost, Rangers lost.. all in regulation.
    BTW.. Colorado is the only team in the NHL to not be shutout this season. That’s pretty incredible especially for a team that finished dead last in the NHL last season.

    Why, again, did we not keep Benoit?

    • FistsofNeil25

      We needed those stupid Leafs to win.

      • Sandy

        Wash has the dreaded 3 games in Cali coming up next. I really don’t expect them to have a winning record in those 3 games..

        • sprucesens

          other teams have done well against them in short spurts. just not us

          • CUP 2014-15

            The only team to come out of that 3 game Cal trip with more then 3 points are the Hawks

          • FistsofNeil25

            Actually the Leafs just beat both Anaheim and LA in their 3 game trip to Cali last week.

          • CUP 2014-15

            You are correct sir, my mistake, last week stat

          • FistsofNeil25

            It makes me very sad that the Leafs can go into Cali and earn 4 points. Yet we go into Alberta and come out with none.

  • Roar…

    The day it happened I said we would rue the day we let go of Andre Benoit. A lot of people laughed at me. Well… eat some crow.

    Gonchar + Benoit in the lineup = Ottawa Senators make the playoffs.

    Phillips was obviously signed to please the Season Ticket Holders. Guy is a fucking useless scrub at this point in his career it’s so fucking painful to watch him play while Wier sits.

    • Sandy

      I think the incredible goaltending last year had a lot to do with the Sens making the playoffs.. Goaltending this season, has taken a step back..

      • Aaron 2.0

        My feeling is it happened in tandem. For whatever reason(s), the defensive play started rather badly this year. It put the goal-tenders in difficult positions to win on a nightly basis. It literally would talk a goal-tender clinic to win. Our guys can steal games. But, we’re seeing the cumulative effect of the defensive play, IMO. The tenders just look beat down in interviews.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Well resigning Philips has done the opposite for myself and at least four friends I know of… Everyone has canceled their season tickets and when asked why said due to completely illogical decisions being made both on the ice, in front office and from the bench.

      Buddy who has four seats in the gold section was told to please wait for the off season. Before making his choice(for whatever that is worth)… He said if he was amazed by the moves he would call back… But Judging by history bringing in another overages veteran wouldn’t cut it.

      • CUP 2014-15

        LOL That’s hilarious, let me get this right. You and your buds are huge hockey fans who have seasons to an nhl team and your all going to cancel your seats because the team resigned Phillips. that’s fresh….have a good summer, no loss there to the loyal fan base.

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Yes… Because that is exactly what I said.. Idiot

          How else would you propose people demonstrate their displeasure oh amazing one?!?!

          • CUP 2014-15

            Classless

    • mikep

      Agreed, team let’s Alfie go, so they feel the need to bring back Phillips so he can be a “Sen for life|. At this point he should be a 6/7 D man. Give Patrick Wiercioch a chance, time to see what team has in him Stone and others. Stephane Da Costa was lighting in up before the Olympic break, his reward back to Bingo, managment decisions have been questionable this season.

  • CUP 2014-15

    Great to see all these east teams loosing but you will drive yourself nuts scoreboard watching. LOL, so hard to know who to root for sometimes. Just get 93 freakin points and don’t worry about the rest of the s#!t

    • Sandy

      The Sens can’t rely on other teams — they have to control their own fate…

      • CUP 2014-15

        IT Does not matter, ever since we have gone to 3 pt games the cut mark for the playoffs has always been 93 or less. Unless you believe that number will change for some reason then all they need to do is get to 93 flat out simple, regardless of what others do.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Love the call by Dean – “…aaaaaand it’s 2-0 Denver!”

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    :( Speechless.still 7 points back

  • karlssens

    Seasons over boys. Nail in the coffin.

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      it aint over till its over but its most likely over. Unless we win 8 straight

      • karlssens

        It’s done man.

  • T K

    At least the baby Sens are doing well

  • karlssens

    It will be a fun offseason.. No pick. No Michalek, no Hemsky, probably no bobby Ryan. We might do worse next year.. And that scares me..

    • Sensturion

      What do you mean no Bobby Ryan? He still has a year left after this.

      • karlssens

        True.. My apologies. Thought his contract expired this year too.. Thanks god for that at least.

        • Sensnation

          Truth be told I’d be fine keeping Hemsky over Michalek right now, as long as he stays healthy rest of this season.

    • CUP 2014-15

      Do you have any meds handy LOL

    • Sensnation

      Woah there, why are we losing all 3?

  • karlssens

    Phillips was just such a terrible signing. Him and Gryba need to go for next year.

    • CUP 2014-15

      Yes that’s it, they are the reason..LOL

      • karlssens

        Did I say they were?

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Ignore him…he is captain put words in your mouth.

          • CUP 2014-15

            It’s not like you can’t read it. Words in mouth. LOL let me guess, you never said you cancelled your seasons for next year along with your buddies. The interesting part for me is your buddy giving up his 4 in the golds. LOL, he has leaf tickets or is there a new section a at the CCT

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Ok idiot lets play this game…GOLD….synonymous with best…the you know center ice 100 level…tickets you probably never see because you are so busy being a nitpicking goof

          • CUP 2014-15

            IDIOT, That’s about what I would expect from you, no problem enjoy your leafs in the playoffs

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            good one

          • CUP 2014-15

            hay man, “Gold section” is lower level ACC, Gold seats I might buy it

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            http://www.nhlhockeyarenas.com/images/Ottawa-Senators-Seating-Chart.jpg

            Asshat….the seating chart has them gold…..hence GOLD SEATS.

          • sprucesens

            calm down boys. keep it on the ice

          • CUP 2014-15

            Cool man, sorry but I am as fucking pissed as anyone so didn’t take much to spin me. So again, sorry for the blow up, just over the words in mouth comment,

        • CUP 2014-15

          well then what the hell does CP and EG need to go mean, is there another meaning here I am missing?

  • Sensnation

    Buffalo supposedly shopping their top pick for two top line prospects. Do the Sens have what it would take and is it worth giving up those pieces if that pick becomes Eckblad? Just curious what people think.

    • sprucesens

      we have the pieces, we aren’t making that trade

      • Sandy

        Right.. especially since it’s within the division..

      • Sensnation

        Puempel and Lazar would definitely fit the bill and I’d agree not trading them.

        However, if any of Prince, Hoffman, Stone or even Da Costa fit their criteria though, you have to consider it.

      • FistsofNeil25

        What top line prospects do we have? If we actually have any, we better hold on to them!

        • Aaron 2.0

          Lol. Agree. We have some nice prospects. I’m in love w/ Lazar, and really hope he works out. But, if it’s Eckblad coming back, we don’t have those pieces to get him. At least, not just considering our prospects.

          • sprucesens

            don’t get me wrong, i’d love to have ekblad, but i bet he falls to 3rd spot at best. its not worth drafting 1st overall to get a D. The last one that went that high doesn’t look like anything special. Jones looks better than johnson, who i was referring to. If you trade for the 1st overall, its for a top scoring forward. The best D go mid 1st to end of 2nd round. Very few go in the top 5 and live up to expectations

          • Sandy

            As long as Anaheim doesn’t get him..

          • sprucesens

            lol, yeah that too.

        • Sensnation

          Top line prospects is about potential not about prospects currently playing on the first line. We have bare minimum 2 and I’d say 3.

          • FistsofNeil25

            Who do you have in mind? Puempel and Lazar? If these guys have top line potential then we better hold on to them.

          • Sensnation

            Read literally right below this post.

          • FistsofNeil25

            Gotchya.. see it now.

          • sprucesens

            can’t tell if its sarcasm, but yes, hang on to them. But that also means there has to be room for them. which means we have to pick certain players to not be on the team. And those players won’t land us a top pick, or even a 1st rounder

          • Jacques

            When Puempel scores it looks pretty elite, kid can really shoot the puck!

        • sprucesens

          us, along with every other team in the nhl,(pretty much) has likely 2 top line players drafted in the first round the last couple years that could turn out to be those players, unless they are already playing on the team…

    • karlssens

      I’d rather trade one roster player for a lower first, knowing the talent Dorion and co have.

      • sprucesens

        problem is, we don’t have anyone worth a 1st now.

        • Sensnation

          You cannot be serious! How can you look at our org and say we don’t have anyone worth a 1st?

          • sprucesens

            i should clarify, that we are willing to trade for a 1st. zib, turris, macA, ryan, spezza, ceci, karlsson, lehner are the guys that will get you a 1st. You want to trade one of those players?

        • Jacques

          Spezz

  • H POTTER

    It is so painful to watch Phillips. U just hate this signing

  • Sandy

    Colorado is such a great young team. Roy has done a very good job with them this season.
    But I guess getting several top 3 overall picks in your lineup count for something..

    • FistsofNeil25

      Duchene, Landeskog and MacKinnon are unbelievable building blocks. Landeskog could have been ours if we hadn’t traded for Andy when we did. Not that I don’t like Andy and ZBad, but I’d swap them both for Landeskog in a heart beat.

      • Sandy

        Please don’t remind me…

    • Sensnation

      They also took the gamble of the decade with the price they paid for Varlamov and it’s finally paying off. A lot of gms do (and he did at the time) get ridiculed for these types of gambles, looks brilliant when it works.

      • Sandy

        Yeah for this season.. but last year with Varlamov they finished dead last.

        • Sensnation

          Definitely. Read a good article earlier this season about the positive influence Roy has been for him.

  • Sandy

    After this game.. and very good one coming up.. Detroit & Chicago.. Lets go Hawks.

    • karlssens

      Personally cheering for the ducks.. My
      Childhood movie!

      • Sandy

        Chicago is my fav team after the Sens. Love Toews & Hossa…

      • sprucesens

        quack quack quack mr. ducksworth!

  • T K

    Why does the signal keep cutting out just as a player releases the puck?

    • sprucesens

      getting back at us for bitching about the refs

  • H POTTER

    Really? Shut out at home ? What a surprise

    • Sandy

      Just about double the shots and they still lose…

      • karlssens

        Very few good chances.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Michalek and Karlsson just stand there watching as Colorado scores.

    • Sensnation

      Very frustrating that the predictable outcome became the result. Karlsson needs to take pride in his d again.

      • FistsofNeil25

        Yup

      • Sandy

        Karlsson seems to do whatever he wants without any structure. Don’t get me wrong, I love the guy.. but they have to get him to care about his defense..

  • karlssens

    Thanks Eugene

  • H POTTER

    I’m happy the signal kept breaking ng…shows you how inconsistent this team is…this us so demoralizing

    • Sandy

      Colorado is 2nd in the Western Conference with 91 pts. How is it demoralizing to lose to a really good team..
      Interested to see what they do in Mtl…

      • Jacques

        Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

      • H POTTER

        Enough already with the statistics all year long! When you MUST win, you forget about statistics ! Toronto went on the same dreadful west coast trip we did and did just fine ! They come out and played the hell out! Not the Sens ! I’m all for loosing but not this way ! Not with a total lack of 60min of tight play and good defensive game! They couldn’t do that this entire year. It’s a joke MacLean had them train without sticks at game 60 +…like seriously he really thought ” on now is the time to teach them the basics of hockey…” pathetic coaching if you ask me..all year long heaven answering ” I don’t know why we don’t play 60, play hard..” if you freaking don’t know who will!!???? You’re the freaking coach..you’re with them all year long and you don’t know…maybe he still belongs as an assistant dammit

  • karlssens

    Such a low after last year.

    • Sensnation

      Agreed. We will be better for it next year!

      • LeafsSux

        Not with this team

        • Sensnation

          There will be some turnover for the better. Increased competition for a lot of the current spots. And another summer of growth physical and maturity wise for a very young team.

          • sprucesens

            not to be negative nancy, but phillips a year older, spezza a year older, andy a year older… Hoping to see some trading of dead weight roster players at the draft, even if it really amounts to nothing much coming back. and no, not calling spezz or andy dead weight

          • Jacques

            So do we trade Spezz at the draft? I think if you get 3 pieces with a first rounder in there you do it!

          • FistsofNeil25

            That’s an extremely tough call. When he’s playing injured he’s a liability. When he’s healthy he’s still one of the most dominant offensive players in the world.

            The problem is we never know which Spezza we’re going to get these days. For the first half of the season we saw the bad, now we’re seeing a lot of the good. He’s been great the last few weeks.

            If we trade Spezza we’ll have a very hard time finding anyone that can replace the kind of offense that he can generate. I wouldn’t even consider trading him unless we get excellent value in return.

          • Jacques

            He’s going to be 31, he’s having a good run now his value will be pretty good! Let’s not wait till he’s having back problems again!

          • sprucesens

            i’m torn on it now, i used to be in the camp of trade spezza. not because i don’t think he is a great player, but because i was seeing a bad trend for him. His play was very poor for 70% of the year so far. He was still getting some points, but wasn’t keeping the puck out of the net. Then his scoring dried up, and it was put under a microscope. Now he seems more fired up after the olympics, and is showing signs of leadership. Also showing signs with hemsky.

            I also saw the fact that he was down to 3C. With both zib and turris outplaying him. I fully believe we need 3 solid scoring lines, and believe those 3 can be the centers we need to do so. But that means we need to take a firm hold on the fact that we are making 3 scoring lines, which means condra or greening have to go. And michalek either has to produce, which i doubt he’ll ever return to, or we have to upgrade from within, or FA. Maybe one of stone, puempel, lazar, prince, SDC, can somehow fill that role.

            The other big thing, is his increased injuries, age, and until now, lack of chemistry with other players, since the aflie heatley days. If we can resign hemsky, and they can make something great, i’m all for keeping spezza, but i think if 3 top prospects end up coming back, its not a terrible idea either. But at the same time, we don’t have room for our top prospects, let alone 3 others

          • Jacques

            Yeah but would you sign him to 6-7 years? He won’t be a fit with the young guys! There will be plenty of offence. If you get 2 good pieces, add Stone, Puempel, Lazar, DaCosta(he’ll have a spot), Prince. You know what I also see a Ryan to Philly trade this summer, as crazy as that sounds. This team will be young next year but super talented just likeColorado(after the trades).

  • Sensnation

    6 seconds we can do it lol

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      HAHAHAHA

      Most optimistic post ever!

      • Sensnation

        You know me :)

        • Jacques

          No 2 point converts in Hockey!

  • T K

    Little too late but… thanks Mika!

  • karlssens

    Needs to make playoffs.. Loses three straight. Love being a sens fan.

  • SlickRick

    How did we get worse? Are they tuning out the coach or were we just playing over heads the last 2 years i.e goaltending regressing to their mean…at least the playoffs will be stress free this year.
    Fack

    • Michenator

      I feel like we are witnessing a leadership struggle. Next year we need a new C.

      • sprucesens

        it finally seems like spezz has decided to step and try to lead by example. i don’t think we should take it away from him now that its looking like he is trying to earn it every night

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Tuesday cant come sooner. I wont be watching the game but i still cant find myself quitting on these guys just yet. hahah if we win agaisnt NYR 5 pts back and 2 games in hand.

  • Lorenzo72

    I don’t understand this fucking year. What is happening?

    • H POTTER

      MacLean happened. Lost the locker room wayyy back at the start of the year

      • Colin

        I keep hearing this. Can you explain how you know MacLean lost the room and just what it means to the team. Thanks.

  • Jacques

    Had a feeling they come out with no Ammo! Never had a feeling they were going to score! Pretty sad! Going to be a long summer!

  • FistsofNeil25

    Ohhhh well that’s just the way she goes! Too many things went wrong for this team right from the start of the season up until now. Coaching staff and management didn’t address the team’s inability to play defense, the goaltending was inconsistent all season long, and we were a one line team for the majority of the year. Don’t forget all the stupid penalties they have taken.

    It’s going to be a busy summer for Murray and Maclean that’s for sure. They can only go up from here, right?

    • PraiseAlfie11

      Don’t be so sure about having to go up from here. Who knows, both michalek and hemsky might say enough of this cheap owner.

      • FistsofNeil25

        Michalek isn’t a big loss. Hemsky hasn’t been around long enough to realize how big of a clown the Euge is lol

        • PraiseAlfie11

          And who would replace Michalek? Greening? Condra? Some other middle of the pack prospects who is seen as the next Gretzky because he’s a B-sen?

          I’m tired of this moneypuck crap.

          • FistsofNeil25

            I tired of it too. I just think Michalek would be gone even if we were a cap spending team. He’s not a top line player any more and for the money it would take to re-sign him, he just isn’t worth the risk with his injury history.

          • sprucesens

            EVERY player is a prospect at some point. SOMETIMES we will have a good player in our system. Would you not agree that: hoffman, SDC, stone, zibby, grant, ceci, are all good players that have been called up this year? Add in prince, puempel, lazar and so on that haven’t even got a shot? pageau, schneider and on and on. Obviously we might not have a surefire superstar, but chances are good we have 2-3 top 6 players in there.

          • PraiseAlfie11

            Hoffman: how many points in how many games?
            SDC: if he’s so great, why is he in bingo
            Stone: same
            Zibby: 3rd line
            Ceci: the only one who stuck because our defense falls off a cliff after the 1st line.

            Ive been hearing for years how so and so is going to be amazing…most are playing in europe now.

            Moneypuck sucks.

  • CUP 2014-15

    Well, now we have 6 points to play with before she’s all done but the crying…officially

  • Roar…

    I’d like to take a moment to thank Eugene Melnyk for coming in and backing this team, genuinely. And then I’ll take a second moment to request he please sell the team if he’s not willing to support them financially. This season is on his shoulders and his shoulders alone.

    • sprucesens

      not to fight about it, cuz i’m not a fan of him either, but who would you have signed/traded for, that other teams would have actually made the trade? And what FA signing would have made everything different? I doubt even alfie would have saved this debacle of year…besides, with maclean, he’d probably be on the bench! lol.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        Would have traded Anderson when his value was at a career high and gone with two of the top goalie prospects…we are rebuilding after all.

        Would have never played games with Alfie….then subsequently resigning philips to make up for it.

        • sprucesens

          I think i agree on all those points. But imagine trying to trade anderson at that point. The hardcore fans like us might see the idea, but its a tough sell on the other x thousand people that fill the seats.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Off the top of my furious head can’t come up with anything else atm.

          • Jacques

            Haha

          • sprucesens

            headlines would read “sens trade record breaking SV% anderson to ___…..?” Pressure on lehner and bishop from then on.

        • PraiseAlfie11

          After Lehner has not crapped the bed, but hasn’t been a winner either, you still say ditch anderson? You really think Lehner is a bona fide #1?

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Crapped the bed…his stats are still better than last in the league Anderson while playing every few weeks….so yes, I still think he is good.

          • PraiseAlfie11

            As I purposefully said…it’s not that he has crapped the bed…

            He’s meh. He isn’t a number 1 yet.

          • Jacques

            Sadly I’m not as sure in Lehner as I once was. His mechanics just see off to me, he doesn’t move well. Driedger will be the guy, but it will take 2-3 years!

          • Jacques

            Hopefully it’s just from infrequent use!

          • Sandy

            What has Walmsley changed in him.

          • Jacques

            Could be that, he just seems out of position, bad rebound control, weak lateral movement.

        • Sandy

          Anderson was having a career year last season… just like Bishop is this season. Who says he can’t get back to that.. and Bishop have an off season next year.

          Tampa was crap last season.. now with great goaltending they are good again..
          A lot of teams can have completely different seasons one year to the next,, except the elite teams of course..

      • Roar…

        It absolutely would have made the difference. Here is my team. Still would have gone after Hemsky at the deadline… or much, much sooner. Probably would play him with Michalek & Z if we had still got him.

        Hoffman-Spezza-Alfie
        MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
        Michalek-Zibanejad-Stone
        Conacher-Smith-Condra

        Methot-Karlsson
        Benoit-Gonchar
        Cowen-Weircioch

        Gryba

        No Corvo, maybe Ceci comes up later on in the year if needed. That’s what I would have done. I said as much a year ago.

        • sprucesens

          just my opinion, but i would say thats a weak 4th line for energy creation, and intimidation. top 3 lines have good scoring though. I personally REALLY disliked gonchar. so i won’t even touch on that. Liked benoit though. Wish we resigned him over corvo, for sure.

          • Roar…

            Gonchar was available, knew our system, wanted to be here and was well liked in the room. He was also an excellent teacher for Karlsson & the other young guys on the team. His experience alone was worth his Salary. You might not think it, but I guarantee you he has a big hand in Dallas’s young defense playing so well.

          • Roar…

            (Neil, Greening, Kassian) all extra’s if they are needed. Still on the roster and under the 23 player limit. Easy to switch them in and out. I think you’ll find scoring goals and not giving them up < energy creation than uselessly hitting players ineffectively and poor hockey sense for 8-10 mins per night TOI.

  • luckan20

    Lehner can’t make stops when required. The guy needs to develop a better attitude. At 21, I could see him becoming a big bust for us. We are only assuming that he will become a star. AHL success doesn’t equate NHL star.

    • sprucesens

      he didn’t have THAT much ahl success. yes he came in and played lights out for a month on the brink of elimination, to win the calder. And him, along with plenty of other AHL goalies, have had great SV% in the A. But not all will compete in the NHL, and we really haven’t given him any chance. Andy had a terrible stretch of games this year, and the coach left him in, because he’s the number 1. Had lehner have stayed in when he was on a 3 game streak earlier in the year, who knows, maybe he ran with it the rest of the way? Can’t give up on him yet

  • FBP

    Ah well. At least I didn’t just eat 5 granola bars.

    Oh.

  • SenaTHOR

    Score 1 goal and you will lose 98% of the games. This was the issue last year. This year we have all the big guns back who can score but don’t play defence well and we are worse. Karlsson Spezza Michalyk. Like them but don’t like their defensive game.

  • FistsofNeil25

    People like to say Spezza isn’t capable of leading this team or that we lack leadership. Removing the ‘C’ from Spezza isn’t the answer. I honestly don’t think there’s anyone else on the roster worthy of being the captain of this team. I’m not saying Spezza’s a great captain, I just don’t think anyone else could do a better job.

    One thing Murray needs to do is bring in a couple veteran players to help Spezza lead this club (assuming that they keep Spezz). The team would really benefit from another veteran defenseman and a veteran forward. We need to add a couple players who know what it takes to make the playoffs, and how to be successful once we get there.

    There just isn’t much experience on this team beyond Spezza, Phillips and Neil, and Phillips and Neil are nothing but depth pieces at this point. MacArthur was a great addition, but he only has 5 playoff games under his belt. Methot has played 14 career playoff games. Bobby has played in 26. These three players were great additions to the team, but this offseason is the time to bring in some real experienced players.

    We’ll see if the money is there this summer to make the necessary changes. It probably won’t be, but only time will tell.

    • Roar…

      Spezza’s been nothing short of excellent for the past 10+ games. He’s showing why he’s the Captain of this team. Hemsky was the piece he really needed. Someone he fits with. Re-sign immediately and see both their values improve. Can always trade producing players if need be.

      In terms of Phillips & Neil. It’s addition by subtraction with them. I’m pretty sure the team was saying Smith would follow in Neil’s footsteps like 4 years ago. How many players on the team do we need filling this role anyway? We already had a good veteran D… who could actually play… his name was Gonchar. Should have kept Alfie so we could afford the PR move of dumping Phillips on some sucker. It’s the organizations loss. He’s nothing more than replacement level at this point in the league. He isn’t on any Stanley Cup contender I draw up.

      • zippy

        It’s been blatantly obvious Spezza needed a real winger.

        Time to lose Michalek in the off season and replace him with a real winger too.

        I would probably sign Steve Ott to add grit and leadership to Spezz’s line. He had chemistry with Spezz in the past.

        I would also add one Veteran D. Losing Gonchar hurt alot.

  • Sandy

    The only people I see leaving at the end of the season are Reeds & Cameron. Moving their responsibilities this late in the season.. is that Reeds couldn’t effectively run the defense and we all know how well Cameron has done on the special teams..
    Sens need experienced assistant coaches.. or at least Richardson to deal with the D and someone to work on special teams..

    • FistsofNeil25

      I don’t think Maclean is going anywhere that’s for sure. The man just got his contract extension and unless he quits, he’s not going anywhere. Some of his decisions have really been head scratching this year but I still think he can be a great coach if he’s given more to work with.

      I hope you’re right about Reeds and Cameron. I’m not sure how much responsibility they are actually given but it would be a wonderful thing if Maclean and Murray can make room for Richardson in our coaching staff.

      • Sandy

        New assistants and have Melnyk spend part of that $45 M approx. $$$ he is getting in TV revenue… For him not to spend, I think the fans will have had enough of him…
        So he wouldn’t give Alfie the 1.5M more he wanted above their offer is going to cost him over 2M in lost playoff revenue…
        He’s trying to spend quarters in a billion dollar industry…

    • Aaron 2.0

      I think it’s fair to guess that MacLean is safe for now. I commented a while back that if there were any changes I could see an assistant leaving for Richardson (otherwise they lose him eventually). I think there’s a good chance that happens now, based on the tweet by Mendes. It remains to be seen if that will change anything. It really depends on how much autonomy the assistants really have. I would think they were only just executing MacLean’s vision for the Sens. But, maybe new assistants would be the impetus to re-think a few things for the coaching staff as a whole. I’m not putting this season on them. I’ve been pretty consistent in saying it’s probably a lot of compounding factors all happening at once that resulted in the outcome. But, the coaches have struggled this year too (along with just about everybody else, including us, emotionally)!

    • aegiszx

      I’ve said it all along, I’m sure Dave Cameron is a great guy, but my god, he’s had soooooo many fucking chances to improve the special teams. It really does help to be the bosses friend. That’s the shit that pisses me off. Could anyone else NOT see that after the WJC loss (and his inability to get players goin) that he was not the right person for this job.

  • FistsofNeil25

    The great news is that Bingo won all three of their games this weekend. They had been struggling the last few weeks and were at risk of missing the playoffs. At least Ceci and Hoffman can get some playoff experience down there after the Sens season is done. What about Zibanejad? Does anyone think he would be sent down to help in a playoff run? Probably not.

    • runningbear1974

      Sweet… Something to cheer about… If we can send him down we should… We’re still trying to establish a winning tradition…

  • romeo&julian

    im hoping next year this happens; michalek let go, hemsky resigned, condra waived, kassian gone (don’t let the door hit you on the way out). the team ices a “prospect” heavy line up and sticks with it all season no matter what. sens prospects all have between 2-4 yrs of ahl experience and its time to make the jump. hold onto 1st rd pick no matter what and ice a lineup that looks like this;

    prince/Hoffman/puempel-spezza-hemsky
    macarthur-turris-ryan
    prince/Hoffman/puempel-zibanejad-stone/lazar
    greening-smith/pageau/dacosta-neil

    karlsson-methot
    cowen-wiercioch
    phillips(sigh)-ceci/gryba/claesson/borowiecki/wideman

    Anderson
    lehner

    • PraiseAlfie11

      Ridonkulous

    • zippy

      I agree with almost all that except maybe Condra.
      He’s very good defensively. Should never play with Spezza. Just doesn’t have the offensive skills

      • romeo&julian

        yes I also like condra defensively but he doesn’t fit anywhere on this team anymore especially with neil signed for another couple of years. hes not a 1st or 2nd liner, and doesn’t have the hands or speed to play with an offensively gifted player like zibanejad on the 3rd line. so why hold onto him and impede a younger player from getting nhl experience. why not try and create 3 fast-scoring lines instead of trying to create a quasi-checking line. macleans system is not based on defense but rather scoring. I rather this team win every game 5-4 instead of trying to sit back on 1, 2 or even 3 goal leads with its current crappy defense

    • Jacques

      I agree Condra out, better options are out there. I don’t get a budget team that signs Condra to two years and Greening to three. It goes against wise management, and the Phillips signing well that’s ludicrous!

  • Mitchell

    i’m hoping were still in it, if we lose one more, i don’t think there’s anything we can take out of this season other then who is coming out. budget team budget results. are backend in time will probably be one of the best. the whole idea this season wasn’t about waiting, it was about taking. thanks melnyk.

    • Sandy

      So does he lose 10M this season now that the Sens don’t make the playoffs? How much will his revenue sharing be for the team?

      • romeo&julian

        doesn’t matter…right after sens signed that huge new tv deal, melnyk mentioned hes still losing money. I really don’t understand how that is possible. its mentioned hes lost around 100M since buying the team, the team has had several deep playoff runs since then and the cap was at 39M in 2006, 44M in 2007, 50M in 2008. yes 2 lockouts did happen but overall math doesn’t work out. lets say sens have spent between 50-60M on player salaries every season for arguments sake. I don’t know what the current nhl revenue split is between home and away games but with an average ticket price of $130, and 17-18k in attendance every home game, the sens should collect over 50M (net of taxes) every season in pure ticket revenues assuming sens keep 100% of ticket sales for home games and 0% on away games. add in revenues from overpriced merchandise, concessions and concerts/arena naming licensing dues/home playoff games (which players aren’t paid for)/tv deals and you should easily clear over 60M. this is all a rudimentary simple analysis because im not factoring in coaches/arena staff salaries as well as whatever other overhead costs exist. all in all seems to me he should at least be breaking even. what melnyk doesn’t understand is nobody (other than 5-10) teams make any type of profit. owning an nhl team isn’t to generate revenue but rather a “cachet” millionaire thing to include on your portfolio.

        • Sandy

          So Melnyk is saying he was losing 10M average a season on the team.. Bullshit I say to that.
          Now, with the extra TV revenue starting next season, which should net him close to 35-40M, he’s still losing money?
          So what he is now saying is this team is now losing 35M a season? Because that is what it would be losing if he’s not making money after revenue from the new TV deals.
          He’s full of crap. He needs to go..

          • romeo&julian

            I remember how excited I was in 2003 after melnyk bought this team. no more listening to rod bryden cry poor on tv every year and putting the team up for sale if the nhl didn’t step in and give him money. melnyk seemed he was committed to winning and spending money on players. now hes even worse than bryden cause at least bryden kept his mouth shut and didn’t embarrass the team with goofy forensic analysis.

  • KingKarlsson84 – RSU is pathet

    PLAYOFFS?! I JUST HOPE WE CAN WIN A GAME! That last home game of the season against the Leafs and I have tickets 2 rows from the glass. It’s going to be insanely depressing…..

    • Sandy

      I’m surrounded by Leaf fans this season in section 205, They have a half season package.. all 6 of them.. stand and cheer for the other team.
      It’s going to suck to sit through that game and lose.. as we haven’t beat the Leafs all season.. and that’s not going to change.

    • romeo&julian

      may I barter those off you? im willing to trade you 4 blue jays home opener tickets in the 500′s and a $10 gift certificate where you can enjoy a yummy breakfast at kora’s.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Well, at least Detroit won’t make the play-offs either. There’s usually that point in the playoffs when my team (Sens in hockey) go out, and I just start cheering against certain teams rather than for other teams (b/c I just don’t have the heart to really cheer for anyone else). This year it’s coming early, but i’m happy to see Chicago up on Detroit tonight. Alfie will have to live with the fact that he tarnished his career (every fan can decide by how much), up-routed his whole family, & left behind friends, to not make the play-offs! That still will make me happy. Yeah, I can be a little bit vindictive!

    • Sandy

      The point is.. if Alfie was still in Ottawa.. they would be in the playoff picture or at least a lot closer..

      • Aaron 2.0

        Yeah, maybe. I’m not sure this year, but would have helped for sure!

        • Colin

          To use Alfie’s own words, “Probably not.”

    • Aaron 2.0

      They better not make it now. They probably still have a good chance on that 8-spot due to games-in-hand. That will destroy me (lol).

  • Sandy

    How bad can this offseason be?
    Will Hemsky stay? What about Ryan, Methot.. could they be gone if Melnyk won’t spend?
    If both are traded because of the budget the crowds will be even lower next season and the Sens franchise in Ottawa could be in jeopardy..

    • romeo&julian

      yep.. I will honestly stop following this team if they become the Quebec city sénateurs

    • runningbear1974

      I doubt we do much… Maybe try and upgrade on Michalek… Actually… Since everyone is loving Spezza and Hemsky… We’ll probably just sign both michalek and hemsky to 2 year extensions…

      • Jonny

        IF we dont spend, watch the players leave for better teams. Mark my words.

    • sprucesens

      don’t think there is anything to worry about. we might let michalek walk, but money will be there for hemsky and ryan. Probably methot too, just so long as he doesn’t want 5 plus. Without them, we’d just have to sign others to similar deals, just to reach the floor. The only reason i’d be worried, is if they don’t WANT to sign here, because of how shitty coaching or something like that is.

  • runningbear1974

    Darn… When Murray signed Phillips to 2-year extension… I got strong feeling that this is the way forward… Spezza, Phillips, and Neil will LEAD the team going forward…
    We’re in trouble…
    People calling Maclean crazy for putting Spezza on the penalty kill… Because he’s bad at it…
    People calling Maclean crazy for putting Phillips on powerplay… There’s less bad guys on the ice… Pretty easy… Pass to one of your guys, or shoot… Maclean, you’re crazy to put our #1 pick veteran on the powerplay…
    Think about next year… Spezza will be our most veteran experienced guy… Phillips will be most experienced defense… So… Spezza, explain to the young guys how to play offense… And, you Phillips… You explain to them how to do defense…

    Or, maybe next year this stuff will just work out… We’ll get a couple more points and make the playoffs maybe… Woo hoo… We are not at the same level as the elite teams… Partially because we don’t have the depth of elite players, and partially because of the limitations of the elite players we do have…

    • romeo&julian

      this team isn’t as terrible as it appears. this season is a direct result of terrible goaltending, horrendous penalty-killing correlated by absolute lack of discipline, and several games vs league bottom feeders which resulted in 0 wins. its true the sens have gained a few pts from games they shouldn’t have (ie: first week of the season vs LA, comeback win vs stl, last weeks game vs Nashville) but they have also blown several multiple goal leads vs the leafs, habs, blackhawks etc.) 5-6 extra pts right now which would’ve been huge considering how relatively healthy this teams been all season.

      • runningbear1974

        You’re right, we’re not that terrible… I was just pointing out that it’s unfortunate that our most veteran players are 1-dimensional, and not particularly well set up for wisdom… And, i didn’t mention this part, but, when they’re on the ice, i’m scared… And, they get a lot of important minutes because of how important they are to this team…

  • aegiszx

    LOL before the Olympic break, fans with rose-coloured glasses / anti-nhlers to the Olympics were all singing the same tune: “Thank goodness the Sens are only sending 2 players to Sochi, the rest of the guys can use the break, wouldnt want our team to come back injured to hurt our playoff chances! Every other team is going to be tired, we’ll use this to our advantage!!”

    Uh… yeah…. hows that advantage workin’ out for us?

    • romeo&julian

      sens would’ve won the cup in 2006 if hasek stayed home from the Olympics. that’s the reason im anti-Olympic hockey

      heatley-spezza-alfredsson
      havlat-smolinski-vermette
      Schaefer-fisher-neil
      varada-Kelly-eaves

      redden-meszaros
      chara-phillips
      volchenkov-pothier

      hasek
      emery

      wow just wow….sens got screwed with a salary cap coming in when all their star players were hitting their prime resulting in guys like havlat and chara leaving for ufa or virtually nothing in return. michal barinka and josh Hennessey anyone?

  • Kielbasa

    I feel bad for the players. There is still snow on the ground at the golf course.

    The past handful of games proves this team doesn’t have what it takes. The goaltending has been brutal for the majority of the season and the defense has been even worse. Next season we better see a change in the coaching staff responsible for the powerplay and overall defensive approach this team takes. These two things killed this club. Now that there is no pressure, watch…this team will play amazing now.

    Really sad to see this team with very little heart this year.

    • Sandy

      Their heart and soul went to Detroit due to Melnyk’s budget.

      • romeo&julian

        if the reason this team is garbage this yr is the fact a 41 yr old isn’t in their lineup then they have huge problems. this team has been a mediocre bunch of sucks since jan 12th 2008. that’s the last time I felt this was an elite team. they were 1st in the east and just won a huge emotional game vs the red wings who were 1st in the west. then for whatever reason this team became pure shit. they started that season 15-2-0 and played like complete junk the 2nd half barely making the playoffs before getting destroyed by Crosby and malkin in 4 games. then came the Brendan bell, Jason smith, ryan Shannon, years and since then this team has been a fringe playoff team

        • runningbear1974

          Yeah i agree… I don’t remember that moment… But, i’ve been waiting for the new senators to cheer for… I’m tired of the old… I want Turris, Zibanejad, and Ceci to lead the way… I want the next generation…

      • runningbear1974

        It’s sad that the the whole heart and soul was only in one guy… Too bad it wasn’t in the whole organization… That’s what we need… A whole team… Not a gimmicky team…

        • aegiszx

          Completely agree… While he was an important part of the team, what does that say about the Ottawa Senators CULTURE? You think the Bruins would collapse if Chara was gone? No, you have other guys who live and breath Boston hockey. Same with Detroit (says a lot about their consistency, 22 years playoffs straight), and Philly (gritty hard working not afraid of any team).

          Revamp the organization from top to bottom. Have players that embody what it means to be an ottawa senator, no more garbage pick ups, end of the line players, etc.

      • Colin

        Heart and soul my ass! Alfie was gone before they were eliminated last year.

  • romeo&julian

    having said all that, I hope I have a great rem dream sleep tonight wherein the sens go on a 31 game winning streak, winning the cup and we can all look back and laugh proclaiming the 2014 senators as the greatest team ever. good night everyone and sweet dreams

  • Richard Gough

    “ What’s that? Ah — Playoffs? Don’t talk about — playoffs? You kidding me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a game! Another game. ”

  • SenaTHOR

    We are the 5th lowest paid team. A quick reality check and few calculations determined that we shouldn’t likely be in the top 16.

  • Jonny

    Theres just so much wrong with this team this year, I dont even know where to start. But this latest gem, coaches changing roles with 15 games left. So much wrong at the Owner/Management levels.

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    I want silfverburg, nosen, and our 1st back

    • Michenator

      Easy to say now…. as long as Ryan re-signs it’s a good trade? Bah I don’t know anymore, I’ve become so jaded!

    • Jonny

      Silfver and our 1st I dont care so much about, Silf is a perimeter player and the draft this year sucks outside the top 3.

      Noesen I really liked, he’s Captain material, Landeskog style type of player but we do have Lazar coming up whose supposed to be like that too.

      So even IF Ryan doesnt re-sign, which I think he will, Silf nor that 1st round 2014 will even score 30+ goals.

  • Mat

    Glad to see people talking about the off season. Lets not kid ourselves with all those playoff probability equations.

    Nonsense.

  • PraiseAlfie11
  • Conor_smythe

    I said it from day 1: Maclean should have been responsible for hiring his own assistant coaches

    really not sure where this “GM picks the assistants” came from, but it really does not make any sense at all

    There’s not a single defenceman in our coaching staff… enough said

    • Conor_smythe

      so the guys coaching our DEFENCE spent their entire careers playing FORWARD?

      that explains a lot

    • SenaTHOR

      Wow! Didn’t realize it. Get Luke up!

    • SenaTHOR

      Hard to fire McLean if the assistant coaches are the GM’s.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Obviously Cameron was a Melnyk forced hire but didn’t Maclean pick Reeds?

  • SensFanInMTL

    Courtesy of Senshot.com:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pKiHPr-Z9k&list=PL359AADB6512D1A98

    NOTES & OBSERVATIONS
    Puempel has such a lethal one timer and accurate as he now has 12 power play
    goals to lead all rookies. This kid is the real deal and is a bonafide
    sniper.

  • boom

    MacLean on switching roles for his assistant coaches: “I have no comment on that.”

    — Ian Mendes (@ian_mendes) March 16, 2014
    Hey Chirp, you and i have debated all season whether there appears to be a disconnect between MacLean and Murray…does this not seem to indicate that there is?

    • Tooks

      Looks to me like the Management doesnt even know what they have on the bench? Switching them around shows that they dont know what to do with the coaching staff. It has a trickle effect…
      Management dont know what they have in the coaches, coaches dont know what they have in players and players dont know what direction the team is going.

  • NO65*

    Why was Turris so great before Xmas and since then, he’s average. Is he injurred or just drained out? Conditioning a factor? I remember last season Simmer mentionned something about Turris that he was not strong enough and would be gas out past mid season. Seems to be a reality again this season.

    • MethotToMyMadness

      A lot of stories out there saying many of our key guys are indeed injured, Ryan being one of them. But we won’t get any official word on it, till the season is over. That is when teams usually air the dirty laundry.

  • MethotToMyMadness

    I think it’s safe to say now, as a Sens Fan, that this season is basically over. I’m all for agreeing that anything can happen, but in reality the odds are SO against the Sens, you have to just think they are looking at next year.

    Maybe we’ll see them come out and play a much different game with that understanding, at least as a Fan watching, I won’t be swearing because of the lose. Hockey is so much better to watch, without all that pressure. So is this what being a Leaf fan has been like for all these years?

    • Tooks

      Season was over when they lost to EDM/CGY…

      With the worst collapse in Sens history vs the Habs and the less inspiring loss to the Avs, I think this team can still make that predicted record, 3-10-3, sounds about right…

  • MethotToMyMadness

    Sending out a Big Old Happy St. Patrick’s Day to all the Irish and wanna be Irish, who’ve taken today and tomorrow off work, weathering the cold temperatures while standing in line ups today.

    And Here’s to our Wives and Sweethearts. Let’s pray they never meet. Cheers!!!!

  • NickofTime

    This franchise has had many collapses in is history specifically against the stinking Leafs & not to mention the infamous Pommeville goal. I’m surpised we’re not more used to it by now. The refs having been screwing Ottawa for so long it’s expected but the players need to take more responsibility for the way they play.
    Just too many problems with this team to be a playoff performer, the defence is young & inexperienced, the goalies have been below average & the fowards don’t come back defensively to help. They are way too easy to play against, they don’t compete hard enough & the skilled players on this team don’t work hard enough & don’t want to play a defensive style when it’s required. Too many turnovers, too many penalties, too many give aways & too much complaining & NOT ENOUGH HARD WORK. The coaches deserve some criticism as well for the performance of this team all yr.