Game Day- Panthers and Senators at the CTC

SensChirp November 9, 2013 140
Game Day- Panthers and Senators at the CTC

After consecutive wins over the Columbus Blue Jackets and the Montreal Canadiens, the Ottawa Senators continue a five game home stand against the struggling Florida Panthers.

Despite all their early struggles and the handwringing  in the Nation’s Capital, the Senators have clawed their way back to .500 with their last couple wins and are right in the thick of things in the Eastern Conference.  And some more good news- the Sens have actually posted a 5-0-2 record against the East so far this year and will play 15 of their next 17 against the Eastern Conference.

Good chance for the Sens to get on a bit of a run starting with this afternoon’s opponent, the Florida Panthers.

Things are not so great in Florida right now. General Manager Dale Tallon is furious with the way his team has performed and yesterday, fired Head Coach Kevin Dineen and the rest of his staff.  Tallon suggested that it will now fall on the players and if they can’t get this thing turned around in the near future, there will be some players heading out the door next.  If they want to send Erik Gudbranson out, the Senators would definitely be interested.

Certainly tense times in Florida right now so it will be interesting to see what sort of effort they respond with in Ottawa this afternoon.

This should have marked the return of Jesse Winchester to Ottawa but he’ll miss the game after being handed a three game suspension yesterday afternoon.  He caught another former-Senator with an ugly elbow on Thursday night and will sit out the next three games.  It’s too bad Winchester will miss his Ottawa return but it’s a bit of a bonus for the Sens as Winchester has actually been one of Florida’s better players of late.

After yesterday’s practice, MacLean suggested he’ll likely have a similar line up to the one that was successful in Columbus and Montreal.  That means Wiercioch and Corvo are the scratches and Erik Condra misses another game with an injury.  No morning skate today so we’ll either have to wait for Paul MacLean to speak to the media or see how they line up at puck drop.

(UPDATE 11:37 AM)- One change to the Ottawa line up.  Patrick Wiercioch is in. Eric Gryba is out.

We do know that Robin Lehner gets his third straight start in the Ottawa goal with Craig Anderson dressed as his back up.  Nathan Lawson was returned to Binghamton yesterday afternoon.  Puck drop is set for just after 2:00 PM and there are an absurd number of tickets remaining if you are interested in catching this afternoon’s tilt.

The Daily Chirp- At the 2013 Entry Draft, the Senators apparently did a lot of asking around to determine the level of interest in Milan Michalek. One team they spoke with- the New York Islanders. Michalek is currently the highest paid player on the Sens’ roster and is still a piece they would consider moving. He’s a free agent at the end of the season and it’s not really clear if he’s in the long term plans of the organization.

  • Robert Cyr

    With Sens’ last 2 games, yielding 2 convincing victories, the lineup should
    be the exact same lineup vs the Panthers.

    If Colin Greening can somehow score a goal, it might light a fire and get him
    playing with more confidence !

    GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Snoopy Senior

    • Aaron 2.0

      I love your optimism. I don’t think I would call either victory convincing other than the actual scores, but the team is definitely progressing.

  • Conor_smythe

    Daily smythe:

    Apparently ottawa has been really high on this guy since his college days and were really disappointed about not signing him. They have asked and possibly even come close to an agreement. Sounds like a hockey trade

    • Righteous Smoke

      whaaaat are you talking about…

      Winchester?

      • Conor_smythe

        Maybe I didn’t word things correctly. But I guess that adds to the fun. Not Winchester. Thats Wayyy off

        • SensChirp

          Hmmmmm

          • sprucesens

            what’s this guy talking about chirp?

      • Peluso

        Buddy Robinson as trade bait? BUDDDAAAAYYYYYYYYY-boy

        • matsoukas45

          why would you trade Buddy Robinson 6`5 230 pounds,who you just signed who is big and fast like him and could be a 20 goal power forward if your going to write on this site use your brain.

    • xiorcal

      Justin Schultz?

      • SensChirp

        That was who I was thinking of but the Oilers can’t possibly move another defenceman haha

        • xiorcal

          What would be the price for him?

          • sprucesens

            don’t think we need to trade for schultz anyway. we have ceci coming up probably next year. and karlsson and wiercioch. keep boro/gryba and methot and cowen and our D is set. I don’t see schultz as a huge upgrade over wiercioch, at least not enough to give up extra assets to aquire.

            It would make the oil look like douche’s though, after both ottawa and oilers tried the hardest to sign, and from all rumours, he had it narrowed down to these 2 clubs. Then for the one he chose to use him as trade bait to the other. I’d never want to sign in edmonton if that was the case…

        • sprucesens

          yeah, dare i say one of the worst trades in years?

    • SensChirp

      Got everyone guessing. Daily Smythe is a hit! Forward or defence?

      • Conor_smythe

        Playing In the West

        • SensChirp

          DeKeyser?

    • Righteous Smoke

      DeKeyser???

    • sprucesens

      do you have any connection to anyone within the organization, or any organization for that matter? i’ve never seen any other “prophetic” comments or insight into possible trades/signings from you?

      • Conor_smythe

        Ive mentioned quite a few things. In fact todays daily chirp was something I talked about during the offseason.

        But youre right, today was the most prophetic (unless you consider how highly I praised huberdeau before he was evn in the top 30 draft rankings)

        • sprucesens

          lots of people speculated about michalek as trade bait. But we have all surmised that his trade value is low, thanks to injuries, and inconsistency. Knowing a player is going to be good just means watching hockey at lower levels, or even stat watching.

          Not taking anything away from you or anything, but again, do you actually have a source within organizations, or some connection? I love having someone like GDS who is connected, and more people like that would be awesome. Thats why i’m asking, not to try to knock you down or anything

          • sprucesens

            not sure if he was a college player, but clendening in chicago?

    • Sandy

      Was going to say Matt Read in Philly. But checked and found he is a centre. So that’s not happening. He’s only 5’10″.. I think the Sens want bigger.
      Justin Schultz? Maybe.. but that would mean Weircioch is gone… How would that affect Turris?

    • FBP

      This is fun.

      Playing in the west?

      Wingels or Tanev maybe?

      Edit – I was assuming a College F.A. at one point but I guess you didn’t say that.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Go Sens Gooo!!

  • JBL11

    If Milo wants to stay around for a cheap price, I’d be fine with that. Just hard to commit 4 million+ to a guy with so many injury and consistency issues. Mike Hoffman is less proven and will never be a 30-goal scorer, but he is also quick and can shoot. Good replacement should Milo be packaged in a trade for a D-man.

    • sprucesens

      agreed. but milo is barely a 30 goal scorer too. Once with us i believe, he hit 35. since then has been injured most of the time. He might not score as often, but he puts out the work ethic, and seems to be producing in the AHL. Might be exactly what we need skating beside spezza. Someone who is going to fly into the zone, and hopefully be ready to shoot at will

      • JBL11

        Yeah. I think other teams would look at Milo as more of a 20 goal scorer at this point. Still a valuable asset. If he gets traded, Eugene will likely have to cover some of his salary.

  • spezzerman

    would like to see Weir in for Gryba to get a game against a weaker team to get some confidence.

  • SensChirp

    There will be a change to the line up. Patrick Wiercioch is in. Eric Gryba is out.

    • spezzerman

      sweet

    • karlssens

      Thank god

    • Peluso

      I predict Weird-Cock gets and Apple (second best line of the day)

  • 010101011111010111101011111011

    Tim Thomas starts for Florida – YIKES

    • spezzerman

      At least he hasn’t been great this year and hasn’t played in awhile.

    • Sandy

      Yeah… he is a Sens killer that’s for sure… but that was in Boston. Can he do the same for Florida against the Sens.

      Would be extremely disappointed in the Sens if they don’t win this one today. They need to keep climbing in the standings…

  • Guess Who

    Senators attendance stats…
    Average crowd: 17,887 (15th in NHL)
    Percentage full: 93.4% (20th in NHL)

    • Peluso

      how many free tickets? What is the average ticket price? There are more elements to team revenue than bums in seats, especially when those bums got in the doors for free.

      • SensChirp

        The ticket bar has been set deceitfully high if you ask me…

        • spezzerman

          what do you mean?

      • Guess Who

        Average ticket price is $137.82, 15th most expensive in NHL.

        • Peluso

          is that average ticket paid, or average ticket price? I ask because there are consistently different prices offered by the Sens.

          • Guess Who

            Average ticket price

          • Peluso

            fair enough. That must be inflated with their dynamic pricing model (gold games/silver games/bronze games), as well as prices going up closer to games that are nearly sold out. Otherwise, the $137 number seems pretty high to me as an “average”.

    • Guess Who

      Teams that have better crowds but lower ticket prices than OTT:
      DET, PHI, WAS, TB and LA

  • Peluso

    As Canadians we are very accommodating. The fact that we are allowing the Panthers to feel as though they are playing at home with so many empty seats is very gracious of us.

    Well done Ottawa!

    Go fucking Sens.

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      The whining about empty seats is getting old. Melnyk said the team ain’t moving, so that’s basically telling the fans: “Do whatevs, go or don’t go you aren’t contributing by attending.”
      Also, step back from your fandom. How many people would you REALLY expect to see:
      1)A 2 p.m. Saturday NHL game
      2)A game against th FLORIDA PANTHERS, one of the worst teams in the league.
      That game is at 7 p.m. or 7:30 p.m. and there are 19,000 people there.

  • Jacques

    5 left shot D-men in the line-up. Far from optimal. Gudbranson right hand shot, interesting.

  • MoeDozer

    the thing about milo is yes we all want him to score tons of goals.and we know he can when he is 100% healthy. and i am not argueing that at his price he should have any excuse to not be producing at at the very least 25g. I just dont appreciate fans that are trying to run him out of town because they feel he is completely useless. I have been to almost all the home games this year. and always keep a close eye on milo.. he is incredibly smart out there without the puck. i will even argue hes our best defensive forward with only condra and zib very close.

    we probably will not miss his offense next year, or the lack there of.. but we definitely will miss his defensive game. an aspect that is so underrated and is always over looked at for many forwards.

    so unless we have another speedy, hard working winger that is nearly as good without the puck and can chip in offensively.. we do not have a true replacement imo.

    • sprucesens

      i don’t think anyone is trying to run him out of town. Just that he isn’t producing like the highest paid player should. But more importantly, he has been mostly injured, and is in the last year of his contract. Injuries and lack of production leaves us wanting more, while the last year of his contract means people want to try and get something for him, if we can get good value. …which isn’t likely, and that’s why he will probably stay a sen till year end.

  • 65kwhissell19

    hey guys. cant wait for the puck drop. anyone guess what the score will be?

    • sprucesens

      4-1. thats how we seem to win lately. i’ll stick with that

      • 65kwhissell19

        that’s true. love the sound of that to 4-1 lol

    • yannrock

      Ottawa: 3
      Florida: 2

      • Jacques

        Good call.

        • yannrock

          Hahaha! Lucky guess

  • IcySurfas

    I need to keep my expectations in check for this game. We have owned the Panthers for years, and now more than ever that team seems down and out. Sens riding a 2 game winning streak with hot goaltending and high scoring …. what more could we ask for right?

    There is nothing about this Florida team that scares me at all …. but I have given that label to team before that have walked in and stole a win from us. Damn these afternoon games.

    I was at the Oilers afternoon game a few weeks ago … that went less than anticipated.

    GSG … Key to the game …. “SHOW UP”.

    • MoeDozer

      other than possibly being affraid of a goaltender that hasnt lost in this building since 2008. although i know.. he isnt the same

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Tim Thomas in net for the Cats…. ALWAYS been a problem for the Sens. He loves playing us.

  • T K

    Kinda feel bad for Thomas to be stuck with this team. Maybe he’ll invite me to visit his underground bunker….

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Bobby Ryan is good.

  • T K

    Geez, I stepped away for 2 seconds and they scored again! This is going to be good…

  • Mexican Baby Jesus

    I love Karlsson, but that is why people argue players like Pietrangelo and OEL are better.
    Still rather King Karl…

    • 65kwhissell19

      no I think he thought he was getting a pen so slowed down

    • Aaron 2.0

      The initial turn-over is just really bad luck, but yeah, he has to be harder on the panther that was able to walk right out from behind the net. I think Karlsson’s been fine on defense though over the last handful of games.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Mac should never put Mika back on the wing. He was born to play centre.

  • Zorav

    Karlsson needs to keep it simple right now. He’s scattering around quite a bit. Ease into it and then start playing your game.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Sens look really good so far. Everybody is playing for each other. Thomas looks like he’ll be busy tonight.

  • Zorav

    Karlsson lol… stop giving away odd man rushes. everyone else looking pretty solid!

  • T K

    Maybe Tallon will trade Gudbranson for Sens rights to Filatov!

  • 65kwhissell19

    starting to get sloppy now. need a big shift here to gain control again

  • Aaron 2.0

    Ice can’t be great. Puck looks like a beach-ball tonight.

  • Conor_smythe

    I hate complaining when we’re winning but This game is terrible

    If Ottawa were actually good it would be 6-0 by now

    • 65kwhissell19

      lol don’t kid urself 6-0.

  • matsoukas45

    where is Karlson not playing is he bench

    • 65kwhissell19

      ya noticed that. he wasn’t on the ice. hope pm just benching him

      • matsoukas45

        i think he did

        • Conor_smythe

          Its about time !!!!

          • H POTTER

            Imagine the positive effect that’s going to make!! I can’t wait to see him respond! Another Norris-winning in the making..lol

  • Aaron 2.0

    Interesting early opinions here. I thought that was actually one of the best periods this year. All four forward lines were contributing. There was a bit of a defensive lul mid-period. But, a few of the sens turn-overs were actually some bad luck; both Karlsson and Phillips just sort of whiffed on the puck that led to a few chances. Defensive positioning was pretty good, I thought. And forwards were helping out too.

  • H POTTER

    Wassup guys. Am I the only one that noticed that Karlsson missed almost 10min at the end of the first? He wasn’t on the ice after his pinch when he checked a forward and caused a 3-1…

    • matsoukas45

      I think he was bench to many turn overs.

  • 65kwhissell19

    yup karlsson only played 4:16. think pm gonna have a nice chat with him

    • Conor_smythe

      Maybe to remind him that hes actually a defenseman, not a 4th forward

      • 65kwhissell19

        ya. it ok to pinch but man when u no its going 3 on 1 back are way come on karlsson ur good at this play ur game

        • senskarlsson57

          iz dis inglish?

      • H POTTER

        Lol

    • H POTTER

      If that’s the case, about time! He is too good and too smart of a player to be continuously making these poor decisions…he’s the main reason FLA is down 1 instead of down 2…I was beginning to think pmac wasn’t going to get real with him.

      • 65kwhissell19

        they havnt said anything. so that’s what my guess is. ya he needs this. h better than what he is doing right now

  • 65kwhissell19

    first minute and 1:12 sec not looking good

  • Aaron 2.0

    Michalek looking good again tonight.

  • 65kwhissell19

    boro. with a fight. nice hit.says no thanks this is my red line

  • mr.slapshot

    Boro owns the rink.

  • 65kwhissell19

    scores oh boy that looked nice.16

    • do due dew doodoo

      CM16 – 12 points in 16 games – nice pickup by BM

      • 65kwhissell19

        yup gonna say best fa bm has signed in ottawa

    • One Gun Mitty

      Leading the team in plus/minus
      works HARD on every shift

      please explain why the Leafaroos gave up on him

  • Aaron 2.0

    Nice to have Weircioch back on 2nd PP.

  • Aaron 2.0

    It’s hard to imagine how it’s even possible, but I think Turris’ line is still getting better together.

  • 65kwhissell19

    gotta say they said long term runblad would beat out turris in the trade 3 season now and turris has done nothing but get better every year. think they were wrong turris was the winner

  • 65kwhissell19

    mm spezza ziby line starting to look good to

  • T K

    man, Sens’ organist is boring. learn a 3rd song!

  • mr.slapshot

    thanks ref

  • Mexican Baby Jesus

    Our announcers are so ridiculous. Guys helmet flies off and hes holding his jaw from a phillips hit and they cant figure out why there is a penalty…

    • 65kwhissell19

      lol refs are no better they called it high sticking

    • Zorav

      Yea lot of sens fans are reluctant to admit our commentators are kind of huge homers as well.

  • Zorav

    All phillips had to do was play it along the boards… instead he does what he’s done all season long . Delay …delay..delay.. and florida takes possession and boom.

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      He had so many times to use his stick instead hes scared of the hit and delays it in his skates

      • Zorav

        Can’t even blame him. He just doesn’t posses the athletic ability anymore.

    • Jacques

      Look again at that second Florida goal, what the hell was Spezza doing??? He played a much better game for parts today but his line in the defensive zone had its difficulties again.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Nice shot…

  • Zorav

    Lol the desperation is so obvious melnyk….every second TV time out …” Get Your sens tickets today”.

    • T K

      they have always done that. you’re just noticing it more.
      if i see that loverboy oil change commercial today, i’ll never use them again

  • Colin

    Senators really need to find out who to blow to get the calls to go both ways. Not arguing Sens taking penalties, but the Panthers are getting away with interference & slashing.

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      I dunno, we have gotten away with some stuff this game too…don’t think the missed calls are uneven.

      • Colin

        What’s uneven are the 4 straight calls in the 3rd wit h none to FLA

  • Zorav

    Excellent Kill

  • Mexican Baby Jesus

    3 points behind Detroit now

  • Thor

    RAGNAR LOTHBROK – FOR THE WIN !!!!!!

  • NickofTime

    Again too many give aways & as if it’s not bad enough Karlsson continues to give the puck away while Ryan is starting to get too cute with the puck too. Just shoot the damn puck already & stop trying to make a highlight reel setup. I pick on Spezza a lot for this but he has actually been playing much better defensively & is starting to use his big body more & actually hitting guys. very nice to see.

    Still waiting for Stone to be called up & Condra, Conacher & JOB to be traded for something. Florida, Philly & Edmonton are all desperate to do something but I’m not sure that those three players are the answer to any team’s troubles. I wonder if they would be enough for Mathias in Florida? Would love to see a line of Mathias – Grant – Robinson.

  • T K

    I’m not a member of the “Lehner will save us” club but i have been very impressed with his progress this season, with the way he has played in the past 3 games and with the way the team has been helping him clear the garbage from around the net.

    Go Sens Go

    • Sensnation

      He will save us though ;) He’s a BEAST!!!

      • T K

        I do agree that all signs are positive. His time is coming…

  • Jacques

    Gudbranson is big , tough, and can cover a lot of ice. He’s a much better skater than I remember. On the right side second pairing would be a monster for the Sens. If I’m Murray I would be doing my utmost to get him.

    • spezzerman

      He was the worst player on the ice today

  • Mitchell

    all Philips does is point. his on the ice to micro manage. he sometimes lays a nice hit or helps us reach the cap floor. BUT it’s time to move on.

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      All he does is give props to the players after wins. I bet he is a great guy though. He also has a smokeshow of a wife so he is winning at life…

      • Mitchell

        like a team spirit community? you can get that out of anyone in our team. i doubt anyone gets anger after a victory. as for his smoke show of a wife i already told you chris phillips helps us reach the cap floor.

  • 65kwhissell19

    anyone no how many people went to the game tonight

    • Sensturion

      16000 and change

  • thepez

    Absolutely loved that coach Mac benched EK65 in the first. That is the way to get everyone’s attention. Granted it was done against the lowly Panthers but it still get the player’s attention in the room. Big win after an intense game against the Habs.

  • Jacques

    Hoffman with 3 assists so far tonight!

    • Mexican Baby Jesus

      4 points now (scored a goal). He moves up into 3rd in league scoring after tonight.
      Da Costa now with 16 points in 10 games….It is really too bad he can’t produce up here. Sounds like Corey Locke all over again.

      Can anybody clarify if players need to clear waivers anymore when they are called up?

  • 65kwhissell19

    so our bsens won 7-3…. Hoffman 2g 2a.. and dacosta 2g 3a.. good to see. im itching to see hoffman

  • 65kwhissell19

    HOFFMAN 12 games 8g 7a 15pt plus 4
    CECI 12 games 2g 9a 11pt plus 4
    looks like there both gonna be ready for a jump to the big club soon.. ceci im very happy with 11 pts in 12 games. looks like we got a good one in out future. any thoughts?

    • Robert Cyr

      Should Michalek not produce with Spezza, I can see Hoffman getting called up.
      Also, we are short on RH defencemen, and Ceci is the solution.

      GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Snoopy Senior

  • Sensnation

    3 straight wins, 8 out of last 10 pts! Sens are rounding into form!

    GO SENS GO!!!

  • Robert Cyr

    Hey Chirp,

    Saw your tweet about finally having 2 good lines by switching Greening and Michalek.
    right from puck drop in Panthers game.

    MacLean needs to ice these 2 lines for 5 games, and if Michalek is not able to get
    himself rolling, we need to insert either Conacher, or bring one of Hoffman or Stone.

    Let’s see how this goes in the next 5 games !!

    GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Snoopy Senior

  • Kielbasa

    Nice way to start the weekend off…another Sens win. Good to see the team starting to get into a winning groove. The boards here and the chatter elsewhere are starting to feel a little better.

    The Sens though, continue to be their own worst enemy. I really think PM needs to sit Phillips out for a couple of games. He’s been the worst of the D this season, and he’s not improving. He has been way too soft around the boards and continues to stand there thinking thinking thinking about what to do until it’s too late. His constant delays before making a play out of our own end is only giving the other team scoring chances. He’s not the only one guilty of it, but daaaaamn it is constant with him right now.

    Anyway, great to see this team going in the right direction. Sens win. Laughs lose. A good weekend.

  • Gordon Ramsli

    I wonder since Bingo went 3 for 3 on this weekend if we’ll see the Sens bring up Hoffman, DaCosta – Pageau both had there shots in the beginning of the season.
    Difference is that Hoffman is Left Wing and Spezza is looking for one..

    MacArthur – Turris – Ryan
    Hoffman – Spezza – Zibanejad
    Michalek – Smith – Conacher
    Greening – Grant/Condra – Neil

    From what I’ve seen previously, I like Michalek with Smith, He gives Smith more purpose then 3rd-4th line grinder/tough guy and from what I see Smith benefits give it time & add a speeding right winger in Conacher or Greening, If he can play Right Wing.

    For Spezza & Zibanejad. Hoffman adds a young Left Winger with good hands who deserves a fair shot. I do sadly have to make a remark about Spezza showing lack of Intensity at times. I hate it I love Spezza but He’s either playing Injured or from time to time he forgets he’s in the NHL and not in a pickup game.

    My opinion on Michalek I’ve always generally liked him never really had a issue with him He kinda has always flown below my radar. But to me Michalek was our 1st line Left Wing because he was the best we could afford. Now we have MacArthur who is on the top line and Spezza produces separately from our top line not what we were expecting but it could be better then we ever asked for.
    I see the Senators putting Michalek on display for the deadline unless the Sens go back to poor play in which a potential chance for a top 4 D Rental/Prospect with a draft pick or a prospect of our own going the other way also. If things go good though He’s traded at the Deadline for a Prospect/Pick or simply someone who fits our teams future more. No offense to Milan Michalek I have always liked him but it Seems like he got a larger role shoved on him when Cheechoo lost his Mojo He did his best I believe.

    Our future we have Hoffman & Peumpel and in my opinion Buddy Robinson & Shane Prince to a lesser degree. Stone could be ready for 3rd line Right Wing Duties. Which is why i like Michalek with Smith It trains him for a future line combo of

    Hoffman – Smith – Stone

    I want Hoffman up now for the reason of getting him some NHL Experience so we don’t have 2 rookies floating around Smith in the future.

    Lets make it 4 tomorrow in Philly ! GSG!