Game Day- Last Game Before the Olympic Break

SensChirp February 8, 2014 384
Game Day- Last Game Before the Olympic Break

With a welcomed 18 day vacation of sorts on the horizon, the Ottawa Senators play their last game prior to the Olympic break this afternoon in Boston.

For Paul MacLean, the challenge will be to get one last quality effort from his team before they go their separate ways for the Olympic break. The Sens are coming off big wins over the Blues and Sabres but need to keep banking points in order to keep pace with the rest of the East.  Ottawa and Columbus both have 63 points coming into Saturday’s action, just a single point behind the Red Wings for the final playoff spot.

Today marks the fourth and final meeting between the Sens and Bruins this season.  Ottawa took two of the first three, including a 4-3 win back at the Canadian Tire Centre in late December.  The Senators have struggled against the Bruins the past few seasons but have a chance to win the season series with a win this afternoon. And they’ll catch a bit of a break as the Bruins will be without their best player and Captain Zdeno Chara.  The Bruins gave Chara a couple games off so that he could carry the flag for Slovakia during the opening ceremonies at the Sochi Olympics.

Yesterday, the Senators decided to send forward Stephane Da Costa back to Binghamton for the Olympic break.  A tough decision considering how well Da Costa has played of late but probably in his best interests.  Da Costa will benefit from the additional games during the break and will certainly be a welcomed addition to the BSens line up.  With Da Costa out, Matt Kassian will draw in for the Senators this.  No morning skate for the Sens but here’s how Ottawa is expected to line up.

MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
Greening-Spezza-Michalek
Conacher-Zibanejad-Condra
Kassian-Smith-Neil

Cowen-Karlsson
Methot-Gryba
Wiercioch-Ceci

Craig Anderson gets the start in the Ottawa goal. Chad Johnson is expected to get the nod for the Bruins.  Puck drop is scheduled for just after 3:00 PM with the game available on CBC.

  • SenaTHOR

    Hopefully have woken up properly before this game. Be nice to keep the point streak going.

  • TylerB

    can he please leave spezza michaelek and zbad together…

    • SensChirp

      I suspect they’ll see a bunch of shifts together, actually. This is just a potential line up to start with just four centres available.

    • Simple Jack

      we are short a center for that this game.

  • The Apostle

    Classy move on the Bruins part to let Z carry his nation’s flag

  • Simple Jack

    hopefully with the new tsn deal we have minimal afternoon games from next season on.
    we have so much trouble with these games and it seems like we have the most afternoon games in the nhl.

    • Roar…

      You do realize we have all these afternoon games because the team requested them right? It was a Eugene & Marketing idea to get more national broadcasts meaning exposure for the team as well as try and be family friendly. Obviously it’s largely backfired because hockey players are all about routine and afternoon games fuck them up but yeah lol. It’s our own fault. Should be back to normal next year.

      • TylerB

        being early*is a poor excuse. Both teams have to do it, in fact because the Sens do it more frequently one could argue they should be used to it.

        edit ‘early’ not outdoor

        • not YOUR wingman

          both teams have to do it today
          only Ottawa has to do it TWENTY times this season

          hockey players are creatures of habit
          playing in the afternoon is like jet lag for them

          check out the team’s record for non-afternoon game

          so many afternoon games is going to cost the team a playoff spot

          • Terry

            The team not playing well is going to cost them a playoff spot. Questionable coaching decisions are going to cost the Sens a playoff spot. Subpar goaltending is going to cost them a playoff spot.

      • CUP 2014-15

        You do know this game is in Boston, correct ?

      • PraiseAlfie11

        I thought it was to get away from national broadcasts? CBC owns rights to games that start after 2:00pm.

      • Sandy

        They have 16 games that start before 6:00 pm this season…. That could cost them a playoff spot.
        Hey Eugene… stay out of making decisions for the team.. You fail.

  • CUP 2014-15

    Ladies Moguls Gold and Silver…..Congrats Ladies.

    • PraiseAlfie11

      Have siblings ever gone 1-2 in any event before?

  • NickofTime

    In the Sun it was reported that Ryan was practicsing with that 3rd line & Condra was playing with Turris & MacArthur. Hopefully, after the Olympic break BM will recall Stone to replace Condra, Da Costa to replace Conacher & make a deal for a top 6 winger (Moulson) to play with Spezza. That would lead to a much more offensive team & maybe we wouldn’t have to start from behind in so many games. Phillips & Puempel for Moulson should be enough, if not throw in Conacher or Condra.

  • esk

    time to put bobby with spezza

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    If we can out of with 2 points and finish a week getting 7 out of 8 points is huge for this team. Is just shows when our fan base is sometimes so negatives (bashing players ie:Spezza) this team proves doubterswrong. As a sens fan I am happy so far with 5 out of 6 . Huge game GO SENS GO and I know when the 82 games are up. Sens will be in the playoffs. Wont be easy but I know they will prove doubters wrong.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Big big big game!! GO sens GO!

  • T K

    Nice foot work from Turris

  • SensChirp

    Greening-Spezza-Michalek
    MacArthur-Turris-Condra
    Conacher-Zibanejad-Ryan
    Kassian-Smith-Neil

    • T K

      I look at these lines and this Dr. Phil voice in my head says “how’s that workin’ out for you?”

      All I can answer is: we’ll see…

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    I wish Mac would just leave the damn lines the way they should be and let the guys play.

    • karlssens

      Needed zibby center because da costa was sent down.

      • jasonontheoldsenschirp

        Ya but Bob should be with Turris.

  • karlssens

    Colin greening is the line destroyer

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      Condra as well

  • SenaTHOR

    200 ft Michalyk

  • Terry

    Don’t forget Greening was out there as well.

  • Terry

    This is going to be a long game.

  • T K

    There were times when I wish that 46 was more aggressive in the offensive zone..

  • karlssens

    Good job boys! Go out with a bang!

  • Dr.Hockey

    These lines suck

    • Terry

      Agreed.

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      Yep. Dunno what Mac is doing.

  • Frank

    PM is guilty of over coaching in this one. Why mess with a winning line-up? They could have easily sent DaCosta down after this game. All this did is scramble every single line. The Spezza line was on a hot streak. The Turris line had been good all season. The Smith line is always effective on the forecheck and the midget (DaCosta) line had chemistry

    Why, Paul, why???

    • Sensnation

      If Da Costa played today, he could not be sent down during the Olympic Break!

  • T K

    Miller had better get extra time for fighting with a visor… That’s what fair officiating would do

  • Dr.Hockey

    Condra with 16 and 7 just looks so wrong

    • karlssens

      Condra in the NHL looks wrong lol.

      • SensChirp

        ??

      • Sensnation

        I’m tempted to defend him, but after 2 stupid penalties in 2 games it’s hard to. Can’t do your sole role from the box!

  • H POTTER

    Good ol sens always find a way to screw my Saturdays when they play early in the afternoon….i’ve already had enough…I just hate this feeling I’m getting each time they play so poorly…pmac stinks now

    • SensChirp

      Do you only watch Saturday afternoon games er? Deep breaths.

  • QSenFan

    This game is the perfect example of why Sens need to add impact players at F and D if they are to have any chance at making playoffs.

    • Frank

      That would be said of 75% of NHL teams. Easier said than done

  • Terry

    Neil and Greening on the PP??? WTF

    • Dr.Hockey

      Some sort of message that wont work?

      • Terry

        I am tired of messages that don’t work. I am pretty sure Greening has NOT been one of the best players.

    • Zelle

      It doesn’t matter anyway the Sens PP has sucked for a few seasons now.

  • SensChirp

    Sens struggle with afternoon games and so do fans apparently. Y’all need to relax

    • Frank

      It’s a double whammy Chirp! Sens struggle in the afternoon AND versus backup goaltenders. Both at the same time? Impossible to win!!! LOL

    • Sensnation

      They should have acclimated to Sochi time ahead of this game, it’d feel like a night game right now!

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    I am actually not that pissed in being down 2-0 I actually feel a comeback. If Macurthur didnt hit the post it could be a different ball game

    • Sensturion

      I don’t know if he actually hit the post. I didn’t hear the telltale ping and the net moved like it went in and through it. Probably my imagination mixed with wishful thinking, though.

  • karlssens

    If there’s one thing sens can do it’s comeback.. But afternoons are hard..

  • T K

    I’ll never buy an apple product and weird ads help confirm my choice

  • Terry

    So between Neil and Kassian, they accounted for 50% of Ottawa’s SOG?

  • Frank

    Hey Healy, didn’t you call Karlsson a “One trick pony” last season? Now, he’s the best player on the ice? Make up your mind loser

    • Frank

      He must be related to Don Brennan

  • FistsofNeil25

    Pretty weak first period from the boys. Gotta bring more effort than that with Rask and Chara out of the line-up. I know it’s Boston but these are another two big points that we desperately need. Let’s go Sens!

  • karlssens

    But man oh man has Ryan been invisible for the last 15 games. If he’s asking for 8 mill, package him to philly lol. We need our best players to step up during the stretch run here!

    • FistsofNeil25

      If he’s asking for 8 million then he’s absolutely crazy. More like 6.5 per year seems fair for him.

  • Terry

    Thats it!!! Thanks to Healy I love the Laffs!! (Slams head against the wall)

  • Tcharger

    Holy shit noone took their Valiums today apparently

    • SensChirp

      Really unpleasant in here today. Who runs this site anyway?

    • Dr.Hockey

      The Sens took theirs ;)

      • Tcharger

        Hahaha k that was funny

      • Dr.Hockey

        But seriously I’ll try to be more positive. Just confused about the lineup changes and sick of the afternoon nap sessions.

    • Terry

      I am taking mine with Ice and a splash of mix. BEWARE THE KRAKEN!!!!

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    • Dr.Hockey

      I clicked multiple times hoping it would work.

      • Cicero

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    • H POTTER

      Funny….

  • karlssens

    Senschirp you gotta let us vent here, it’s what keeps me sane when they don’t show up to play.

    These guys are paid millions to do one job: play hockey. It’s unacceptable in my eyes to not show up for work. It’s 60 min, work your damn asses off!

    • SensChirp

      Ha. I always let people vent. But I also try to make sure I criticize them when they do :) It’s 20 minutes. Team has been playing as well as anyone in the NHL since mid-December.

      • Frank

        Isn’t that the biggest reason to question PM’s decision to shake up the line-up? For what purpose? Team was rolling 4 good lines so you remove DaCosta and throw a wrench into everything?

        • SensChirp

          Think it had to do with having DaCosta in the AHL during the Olympic break. With Bingo in Ottawa they figured it made most sense for him to join the team there. But ya, I would have preferred to see the same line up for this one too.

        • Sensnation

          Da Costa is a GM decision, not coach.

          • Frank

            GM sends him down AFTER coach tells him he’s sitting versus the Bruins. No other reason to send him down a day early

          • FistsofNeil25

            GM sends him down because he wants him playing for the B-Sens during the Olympic break instead of sitting on his ass for two weeks. I don’t understand why people don’t get this.

  • luckan20

    Guys didn’t show up in the 1st period. Way too many gaps for Bruins to skate down the middle. Paul enough with your crap and now put Ryan with Turris line. Similarly, Zibanejaad with Spezza.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Stupid Philly had to win again today.

    • H POTTER

      They understand that they’re in a tight playoffs run

      • SENSible

        Yes and our priority is to make sure that DaCosta doesn’t get the Olympic break off.

    • Aaron 2.0

      Against CGY. Hard to count on that loss for them.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Missed the first period. How bad was it boys and girls?

    • Dr.Hockey
      • Aaron 2.0

        Lol. Still 40 minutes left. 3 D out for BOS. Backup goaltender. Are we going to turn it around, or does the team look that badly asleep at the wheel?

        • Dr.Hockey

          IF they reset the lines and jam a bunch of smelling salts into them they can pull it off.

          • SensChirp

            Also Dr. Hockey, the Bruins are a pretty good hockey team.

          • Aaron 2.0

            With that much regular D out, they should be able to have some spurts of sustained offensive time though.

    • Frank

      Think of Hiroshima, only worse

  • karlssens

    About as good at batmans spine in the dark knight rises.

  • Frank

    What a horrible call that was on Michalek. Krug dove at the puck when he lost control!!!

  • T K

    Listen to that! An organist that plays more than 3 songs!

  • Terry

    Nice Penalty Kill. Turris looks solid and Spezza had a nice pass break up. Now they need to turn it into offense.

  • Hannibal

    A passionless display of hockey being played by our team in supposed desperation mode. Hopefully they can build off of MM9s effort. They have looked slightly better in the initial phase of the second. I will say this though Kelly Hrudey sounds so refreshingly unbiased in his analysis.

  • Terry

    And then that……MORE KRAKEN!!!!!

  • T K

    Yikes, everyone caught watching on that one.

  • Sensnation

    What was Karlsson doing there!?!

  • H POTTER

    So I guess we still have to remain positive here right ? Freakin ridiculous

  • QSenFan

    65 standing around like a statue

    • SENSible

      Waiting for his boarding pass

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Oh my goodness. What Karlsson just did I have never seen anything like it before in all my life.

    • Sensnation

      There’s probably some way to blame Cowen for that lol

  • Richard Gough

    Playing like crap once again lol

  • Frank

    Maybe they can just fold afternoon games before they start? This way they’d at least avoid any potential injuries

  • QSenFan

    Calling the pesky Sens……we need another pesky comeback

  • FistsofNeil25

    Pretty terrible defense. Same old story.

    • SensChirp

      aijdbfjbasdj’ogbjo’adsg

      • FistsofNeil25

        What? Am I wrong?

        • SensChirp

          I guess it’s the “same old story” part I take issue with. It seems like whenever things are going poorly in a particular game, people instantly forget all the good they had done before this one.
          But yes, defence not good enough in this game.

          • FistsofNeil25

            But Chirp, we have seen defensive breakdowns all season long that have bit us in the ass. Even on nights where the Sens have played well as a team, they still have a couple defensive break downs that the opposition always seems to capitalize on this season.

            It is the same old story. I praise this team when they deserve praise and I don’t hesitate to criticize when it’s warranted.

            As well as they have been playing lately, they dug themselves a big hole early in the season and everyone around us in the standings is playing pretty much as well as we have lately. Every game matters right now.

          • SENSsmile

            Absolutely. I will give credit when it’s due but I will give them hell when they deserve it. Why the f*** do they always screw up games that they “should” win? With Rask and Chara out of the line-up, what the excuse today? Was their excuse against Toronto last week the non-call that led to the Leafs second goal? Pretty lame if you ask me. If this reflects the team’s character this year, then I can honestly say that they don’t deserve to make the playoffs.

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      But I have never seen anything like that before.

  • MikeS

    Plus side today, spezza+Michalek. Negative- everything else

  • Sensnation

    Karlsson take a seat! wtf!

  • Frank

    It’s obvious EK65 has already checked out

  • MikeS

    Anyone know what sens record is in saturday afternoon games? Have they won one yet?

    • roon42 .

      looks like 1-8-2 in games before 7pm est. The lone win against Florida in November. One of the losses includes a 3-1 loss against the high flying oilers.

      • MikeS

        So minus afternoon games sens have second best win% in div

        • H POTTER

          Unfortunately that statistics means shiit

      • H POTTER

        Lol…high flying..lolol

  • Cicero

    Dean Brown: “A comfortable 3-0 lead…”.

    Guess he didn’t see the St. Louis game.

  • luckan20

    Please don’t give the afternoon carp reasoning. Our defensive zone coverage sucks. No offense and only Spezza and Turris have shown up but their partners are still not in the game. One of the easiest wins for the Bruins.

    • MikeS

      Michalek has been doing well. But 3 players wont win you a game

  • Aaron 2.0

    Alright. 3 goals isn’t insurmountable, but it’s Saturday. My family deserves more attention than these goofs playing this game do. Hope they come back! Later days.

  • esk

    anderson has been great

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      He really has been.

      • esk

        these penalties though…like wtf

        • H POTTER

          Story of the year…bad penalties since pre-season games…no full 60min efforts. no kick in afternoon games. Freakin Habs came into Boston the other day and won 4-0.

  • Terry

    way to go Conacher.

  • Terry

    Nice play by Gryba

  • karlssens

    Quite honestly, if karlsson is going to be immature and not show up, rip that A off the jersey. Unacceptable effort. It’s not just him to be clear..

  • Terry

    They need a Chris Neil devastating hit on Boychuk.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Conacher.

  • T K

    i just had a mini stroke…

  • luckan20

    How the heck did Conacher missed a sitter.

    • Sensnation

      He’s trying to match Condra in offensive inability

  • yannrock

    Come on!

    • yannrock

      How could he miss that one?

  • TylerB

    ON A PLUS SIDE, spezza has looked good in 5 consecutive games

    • Sensnation

      Michalek rounding into form too!

      • MikeS

        I feel like they are the only 2 players who want to win today

  • T K

    Ryan is better in the defensive end than Heatley ever was.

    • TylerB

      but he hasnt generated anything in the offensive end

      • yannrock

        He needs to start scoring again for sure

        • Dr.Hockey

          There ya go!

        • xiorcal

          Any other player in need of a goal you want to speak about ;-)

      • Terry

        Almost the entire team hasn’t generated anything.

      • T K

        you were saying?

      • TylerB

        thanks ryan… ill call out more players in the future

        • FistsofNeil25

          Every time I call out a player, they have a big game. I just dropped Michalek in my fantasy pool before the St Louis game and he had 3 goals in the next two games lol

      • MikeS

        SAY IT AGAIN!!!

      • MikeS

        Start calling out everyone!

  • Terry

    Yes RYAN!!!!!

  • FistsofNeil25

    Snipe.

  • MikeS

    lol

  • Sensnation

    RYAN!!!

  • yannrock

    Amazing!

  • Cicero

    Oh yeaaaaaaahhhhh!!

  • SENSsmile

    One needs only watch the first five minutes of a Sens game to know whether they have what it takes to win. Obviously, today is another one of those WTF days.

  • MikeS

    So they were down 3-1 after 2 vs st louis. This is very winnable

    • Dr.Hockey

      Nah it’s more fun to watch them score

  • MikeS

    god dammit….karlsson has been so bad tonight

    • TylerB

      gryba and cowen on the ice… but i agree

    • crzyman

      so bad this AFTERNOON

  • yannrock

    Damn it!

  • Terry

    argh!!!

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Jared Cowen is very bad.

    • Sensnation

      Haha, here it comes. 3-1 game, now Cowen’s going to get reamed by fans.

      • Dr.Hockey

        But…. he sucks

      • jasonontheoldsenschirp

        Gryba played the pass across the way it should have been played. Cowen was slow to Iginla was just staring and watching. That was his man.

        • Sensnation

          Did I say anything about the play? Going from Cowen making a bad play to saying he sucks and is bad is what I’m referring to, but sure.

          • Dr.Hockey

            If you have to defend the guy multiple times every single game, there’s a good chance he’s not very good.

          • Sensnation

            First time this game, but again, your opinion is obviously much more accurate then anyone in the business.

          • Dr.Hockey

            No one here is calling themselves an expert lol. Just going with what I see game after game. By the look of the other comments I’m not the only one who sees it.

    • MikeS

      I havnt come to expect much of him anymore. Karlsson has been awful this afternoon though

      • FistsofNeil25

        The whole team has. It’s not just Karlsson and Cowen, it’s the majority of the team.

  • karlssens

    WTF Cowen!!! Why did we draft this oaf lol. He brings nothing!

    • SenaTHOR

      Cowen had 5 seconds to take the man.

      • jasonontheoldsenschirp

        this

  • FistsofNeil25

    Did anyone see what happened to MacArthur? Hasn’t been out there in a while.

  • Terry

    Ok. Karlsson has played worse the Cowen today.

  • karlssens

    At least Ryan scored.. Break the slump. Small
    Victories lol

  • karlssens

    Cowen is like that family member that thinks they can sing and tries out for American idol because the family tells them they are good.. Then they embarrass themselves on television.

    • Jonny

      POST OF THE DAY!

  • MikeS

    maybe they should put neil on d, he atleast knocks the other team forwards out of the way…..Joking btw

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Jared Cowen reminds me so much of Filip Kuba.

    • karlssens

      Kuba was a capable nhler with us though..

      • jasonontheoldsenschirp

        LOL ya maybe ahhaha

        • bluebuyyoo

          Kuba was solid the year EK won the Norris. He gave EK the support to free-wheel and be creative without having to worry about playing defense.

    • yannrock

      I think Kuba was a little better

  • Sensnation

    This is a tough game to watch, but honestly fans make it worse. We’re playing a top team, before a big Olympic break, after having 3 straight huge games. Let downs happen, it’s a sport. 82 win seasons do not exist, deal with it!

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      Na that ain’t good enough.

    • yannrock

      I agree, but some of the players are not showing up today

  • SenaTHOR

    Karlsson is letting people know he’s pissed.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Easy with the Cowen bashing folks. He’s pretty much in his sophomore season right now after missing most of last season after that hip surgery. He’s sure got a lot to learn but he also has a ton of potential. I think he’s been awful for the majority of the season, but I’m happy he’s going through these growing pains now than when we are ready to contend.

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      Meh.

    • SenaTHOR

      He seems like he has brain delay.

      • Cicero

        Took you 6 minutes to reply there.

        • SenaTHOR

          You are an unemployed comedian right?

          • Cicero

            Pretty much. Except for the comedian part.

      • FistsofNeil25

        He’s just not sure of himself at all. You can tell he’s lacking confidence this season.

      • Jonny

        He just got beat again with a lazy poke check…Boston 6-1

  • T K

    Finally the audio technician from Ottawa shuts the microphones off at the boring panel

    • yannrock

      Actually they were telling it like it is this time. The top guys are just not showing up

      • T K

        LOL I didn’t say they were wrong, just boring…

        • yannrock

          Well I can’t argue about that LOL

  • luckan20

    I doubt anyone in this forum is bashing any players, but just trying to bring out the facts.
    It will be a tough task to come back with a team like Bruins. Their forwards are way better than our. We have so many passengers in our team.
    Gryba and Cody Ceci are out playing many of our Ds.

    Paul screwed up the game by starting stupid line combinations. All blame should be directed at the coaching staffs.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    anyone watch episode 3 nhl revealed yet. if so, how is it

  • bluebuyyoo

    Bullshit. Zib gets hooked, but the whistles go up the refs ass for the 3rd.

  • TylerB

    turris line hasnt been great tonight :(

  • Terry

    No line has played well.

  • FistsofNeil25

    More defensive struggles. Men vs boys. Poor Andy has been hung out to dry.

  • bluebuyyoo

    Cowen has to clear that. Passing to the Bruins is not acceptable.

  • esk

    feels like boston has been on a powerplay the entire game

  • karlssens

    Make it stopppp

  • T K

    Win or lose, it would have been better to go into the break off of a more balanced outcome

  • karlssens

    Next afternoon game just reject it and take the rest.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Has Wiercioch been benched? Or did he get hurt?

    • bluebuyyoo

      He’s out there now

  • Terry

    Did I just see Turris with Condra and Kassian?

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Boston has played an outstanding game. No mistakes or anything. Sucks for the outcome. I am not one to bash players so 5 out of 8 points for a tough week is pretty darn good. Detroit then a 4 game road trip post Olympic break.

  • T K

    Hope that the Bingo game tonight is a good one. Last time that they were here, it was a bit of a snoozer

  • FistsofNeil25

    The only forwards that have played less than Ryan are Neil, Kassian, and MacArthur. MacArthur left the game earlier in the 2nd period.

    • TylerB

      ryan has been lackluster the last few weeks…. no surprise

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Bruce Garrioch ‏@SunGarrioch 53s
    Bruins are 8-1-1 in afternoon games. Just throwing that out there. #Sens

  • Terry

    A positive…..According to my GM Mode on NHL 2014 next season Spezza is going to win the Hart and Art Ross, Ryan wins the Richard and Karlsson wins the Norris. But they get bounced in the second round and Murray manages to resign both Spezza and Ryan.
    LOL.

  • SENSible

    Cowen, the pylon again.

  • Terry

    Boston is using a Senator team that didn’t show to send a message to the East and it’s a loud one.

  • FistsofNeil25

    This is just embarrassing.

  • T K

    At the end of November, would you have been happy to split the season versus Boston? I would have.

    Unless something miraculous happens, that’s what we’ll see, a season split.

  • MikeS

    Im actually glad conacher did that lol

  • SENSible

    Conacher has to go, totally useless.

    • FistsofNeil25

      He definitely is one of the players that has to go if we’re going to upgrade this roster.

  • esk

    sick and tired of the refs!

  • Terry

    Ottawa needs to not lay over and die. Fight till the end Senators!!!!!!!

  • esk

    i would start a fight

  • MikeS

    Sens have had 10 pp in last 6 games i think….And Boston has not played a 1 penalty game. whatever though sens deserve the loss anyways

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    All we can hope for is that Detroit, Toronto annd everyone else loses

  • Terry

    Score Mobile suffered a Right Foot injury and will not return.

  • T K

    I was in the kitchen making a grilled cheese… What did Dean just say about MacArthur?

    • yannrock

      Not returning to the game. He hurt is foot

      • T K

        Thanks. That sucks. Hope it’s just a bruise.

        • yannrock

          Hopefully!

  • yannrock

    little too late

    • yannrock

      But nice shot by 46

  • T K

    Nice shot, 46.

  • Terry

    A snipe.

  • T K

    Where’s Cony’s penalty shot?

    • yannrock

      Should have been a penalty at least

  • Terry

    and another snipe…..for Boston.

  • bluebuyyoo

    Mental checkout is pretty much complete. These guys are already on the beach.

    • yannrock

      There are not playing with enthusiasm today

  • Dr.Hockey

    I don’t think Karlsson wants to play with Cowen anymore.

    • aegiszx

      I’m pretty sure no one wants to play with Cowen anymore…

    • yannrock

      Karlsson has not been great either today

      • Dr.Hockey

        True, a bad combo today for sure.

    • bluebuyyoo

      The feeling may be mutual.

    • SENSible

      Cowen is -4

    • Conor_smythe

      Karlsson doesn’t want to play with anybody except Karlsson.. thats the problem..

  • FistsofNeil25

    It’s one thing to lose to the Bruins, but it’s another to lose like this. Where’s their pride?

  • yannrock

    Well! That was awful. I hope they play better next game. Maybe the long break will get them motivated to make the playoffs

  • FistsofNeil25

    The only players that weren’t in the minus column this afternoon: Ryan, Turris, Greening, MacArthur, Methot.

  • karlssens

    That was the worst single performance by an NHL defensemen this year. Without a doubt.

  • karlssens

    It’s a shame. Apparently he’s such a hard worker in practice and he’s got the right mindset, but man Cowen was bad tonight.

    • SENSible

      His feet are in cement.

    • Sandy

      So everyone else was decent and Cowen was bad?
      These afternoon games must be mental for them now. They know they don’t do well… and perform that way…
      Terrible, terrible, disgusting…
      Not the way to go into a break…. a blowout..
      Hope you had a good look at some of these players… They may not be here on Feb 27th… the next game…
      Toronto is not going to lose to Vancouver. Detroit will win as well if Bishop doesn’t play… 2 AHL goaltenders in if Bishop is out…

      • Simple Jack

        naah… but having condra on the top line was trouble, constant offsides, taking penalties… conacher taking penalties… cowen not taking his man… on each goal… andy looked like he was going to shoot him.

  • Frank

    These guys are lucky the Olympic break starts tomorrow cause there would definitely be a BAG SKATE otherwise

  • aegiszx

    I know we’ve said it all season, but man, Cowen is having a roughhhhh year…

    • karlssens

      But it’s okay, because he will be miraculously better next year.. *roles eyes

      • FistsofNeil25

        So let’s trade him for a bag of pucks, right?

        • Jonny

          Well the pucks would be more useful.

          • sprucesens

            i think we have them all. Check the back of our net.

      • aegiszx

        I have no doubt he’s going to be a good shutdown d-man one day in the NHL… but I seriously doubt its with this team.

        Remember, the Phoenix Coyotes gave up on Kyle Turris, 3rd overall pick because he didnt fit into their system… I really am at a loss for words when it comes to Jared Cowen.

        • Simple Jack

          maybe we can get cowen eye surgery, i mean cut his eyes lids so he can see. didn’t his parents tell him not to sit so close to the tv?

      • PraiseAlfie11

        Islanders said the same about Chara.

        • Jonny

          Cowen aint Chara.

          • PraiseAlfie11

            No, he’s not. He’s 13 years younger than Chara.

      • Aaron 2.0

        It happens sometimes – Look at Kuba! If Cowen was playing less minutes against lesser players, he’d probably okay. It seems like a case of expecting too much from him after a small sample. The injury didn’t help either. But, it speaks more about the general health of our defense. He’s playing top pairing minutes!

      • Sensnation

        You mean a thing called growth and development?

  • Sandy

    Ryan played just over 12 min. What a way to treat a player you need to keep happy..

    • SensChirp

      He actually didn’t look like he could handle much more than that. Looked like he was having a tough time getting around the ice.

      • FistsofNeil25

        Is he nursing an injury?

      • Aaron 2.0

        I’ll get chewed out for this one i’m sure, but, I thought he’s had a hard time getting around the ice all season long. Earlier in the season (when he was scoring goals), I commented how surprised I was by his lack of speed. He gets away with it now, because he’s so damn talented. But, my concern with him is that when he starts slowing down with age, I have a hard time seeing him being effective. I said it earlier in the season when all the Ryan love was going around (so this is not just a disillusioned fan barking during a slump), but I feel the trade was a mistake, one that was more about public relations (after losing alfie) than in the long-term interest of the team.

        • SENSsmile

          The Ducks sure don’t seem to miss Bobby Ryan.

          • Aaron 2.0

            Yeah, they obviously weren’t convinced with him. It’s going to be interesting to see how his career progresses. Do you think he stays here? And, what will his contract demands look like?

          • SENSsmile

            I don’t think he’s going to want to hang on here in Ottawa. It seems like the writing is on the wall: he’s only getting 12 minutes a game from the coach. He started the year with guns blazing, but now he seems to be just a good player. Is it his fault or MacLean’s fault? I don’t know, but something is not right at this point.

            It will be interesting indeed to see how his career goes, but my gut feeling is that it’s going to be somewhere else. From the get go, I didn’t think it was a good gamble by Murray, not because of the quality of Bobby Ryan, but primarily because I thought the timing was off.

            The Sens are supposed to be in a rebuild mode. I think that they got Ryan prematurely, and it cost them three players. I don’t know about his contract demands, but with his reputation having been tarnished by that blowhard Brian Burke and the fact that he was shunned by Team USA, I don’t see him in a position of strength right now.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Yeah I really don’t think he will be a part of the picture here for very long. Too bad.

  • Sandy

    I certainly hope McArthur is not too badly injured. This team needs him in 2 weeks…

  • Sandy

    Chirp…. I think the Sens have A LOT of work to do down the stretch. They certainly hurt themselves today by not showing up for the game…

    Karlsson hasn’t looked happy in Ottawa all season long. Missing Alfie… marriage breakup.. He’s gone off a couple of times in the media. So not like Karlsson..

    • SensChirp

      Disappointing effort for sure but even their best game on a Saturday afternoon in Boston they would have been in tough. 5 of 8 points this week isn’t spectacular but it keeps them in the mix.

  • Floridasensfan

    Brutal Brutal Brutal game for the Sens.
    They were a no show, already on vacation.
    Hope they get lots of rest.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    I am not sure that even if this team makes the playoffs that they have a chance to make it past the 1st round. I mean if they squeak into a wildcard they face either Pit or Bos. That’s not a good thing.

    I’d rather they sell off some of their assets to bring in the pieces that will help us in a couple seasons when they are contenders.

    The worst thing the organization can do is make a hasty trade for Vanek, Moulson or any other costly winger that won’t really change our fate.

    • SENSsmile

      Big thumbs up!

  • luckan20

    It is time to sit Cowen for few games. Since Gryba and Wiercioch has been truly stepped up and upon Phillips return, it is in the best interest for Ottawa and Cowen to keep off cie for couple of games. I don’t think Karlsson’s game will improve with Cowen,s slump.

    • SENSible

      After the break we are going to get Cowen some blades for his skates.

      • Jonny

        You need new legs for his body and throw in a new hip while your at it!

  • Mexican Baby Jesus

    How much worse off would we have been with Silfverberg on Macarthur & Turris line? And Noesen in Bingo with our 1st rounder intact. Hindsight is 20/20….but hey, I think Silfverberg would have been close to 15 goals.

    • Sandy

      Silfverberg has 6 goals, 9 assist and 15 pts in 31 games and is +2.. on a top team..
      Noesen we don’t know how he will turn out.
      The first round pick this season… may never be as good as Ryan.. suppose to not be a deep draft.
      Bobby Ryan has 21 goals, 22 assts for 43 pts in 59 games and is +9 on a struggling team that probably won’t make the playoffs.
      I think I like the trade providing that Ryan can be re-signed..

      • Mexican Baby Jesus

        Ryan is also benefitting off of a strong line. At the moment Macarthur and Turris have a lot more value on that line than Bobby

        • Simple Jack

          ryan has setup most of those plays on the top line.

        • sprucesens

          its also a strong line, because he’s on it, scoring 20+ of the goals on it.

    • Simple Jack

      ryan has 43 points, the most goals on our team and your gonna rip on his trade?

  • ProudSens

    Yuuuck!!
    We are what we are. A middle of the pack team. Need to lower our expectations folks. Great run while it lasted. Forever Go Sens Go!

  • PraiseAlfie11

    It was a stinker. Ya gotta put the past behind ya.

    PS: nothing’s “over”.

  • Sandy

    Two good games against Pitts & St Louis and not show up today.
    Points are so important.. they needed to play hard today.. they didn’t even show up.

    Cowen had a bad game.. but the rest of the team didn’t help much either..

    • Aaron 2.0

      5 out of 8 points in that stretch was actually the amount I said that I’d be thrilled with. I also didn’t think we looked very good against Pit. We played one good period against STL when they thought they had the game wrapped up. It’s frustrating though. Given they had 5 of 6 points going into this game, and knowing there were huge holes in BOS lineup, today really was a missed opportunity. Eventually they just won’t have the opportunities if they keep letting them pass by.

      • bluebuyyoo

        What makes it feel worse is that most teams we need to lose keep on fucking winning. 5/8 against the teams they played would usually be not too bad.

        • Aaron 2.0

          So true. It’s painful. But there should still be a few more chances for the guys. A lot of teams in our division still have games against each other. Everybody can’t keep winning. That DET game right after the Olympics certainly feels important now!

  • MoeDozer

    boy is cowen making it tough to defend him. i still believe he has the tools (size, mobility, strength, offensive skill) to become a good top 4D in this league in next couple of years..
    but tonight he was making komisarek or even hall gill like norris level Dmen.

    • Jonny

      Mobility & Cowen dont go together…

    • Sensnation

      Cowen watched his partner Karlsson ignore his duties for the first few goals of the game, then on the 4th goal has already quit like most of the team. It’s too predictable how often he becomes the whipping boy in a team loss.

      • MoeDozer

        he, unlike most whippings boys is deserving every ounce of all this negativity directed his way. yeah the team was looking flat all game but you cant tell me the mistakes he made are acceptable at any level of professional hockey

        and although i do feel for cowen, since he doesnt have a veteran Dman to learn from since the big rig, mr. traffic director is well past his prime and making similar costly mistakes due to his slow decision making.

        IMO the team shouldnt worry about adding offence. we are the 10th highest scoring team in the league but 3rd worst in goals against.

        maybe its about time we cash in and make a quantity for quality trade

        • Sensnation

          Where’s the negativity for Karlsson? I’m sorry but I’m much more upset at the “superstar” floater who gets more than twice as much money and is supposed to be a leader on this team. Cowen’s young, dmen take time to develop. He’s not Chara, he’s not Karlsson, but he’s still an NHL dman that can only improve.

          • SENSsmile

            To be honest with you, I think Karlsson would deserve a few rotten tomatoes thrown at him today too. However, some of us have decided that today’s whipping boy had to be Jared Cowen. Some days, it’s Spezza… other times, it’s Phillips (couldn’t blame HIM today, so…), or other times it’s someone else. Today, well #2 happens to be the chosen one, lucky him! Perhaps the next time it will be Bobby Ryan’s turn. (Just having a little bit of fun right now, and I haven’t even had a drink yet. I plan to, though… :-)

          • Jacques

            Karlsson needs to play with a guy who can actually stay At home andCAN skate? you look to shit on the highest scoring d-man in the league. Most of our offence starts on his stick. U know diddly dude! You argue with everyone defending our worst players!

      • Jacques

        Jaw must hurt from gobbling Spezza and Cowen all the time! Cowen sucks if you can’t see that you’re blind, he can’t f-ing skate!

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    K… We have blamed pretty much everyone on the team… Is it time to look at Maclean?? So manu(i would say the majority that we as fans get to know about) have seemed completely and utterly out to lunch.

    It seems totally nuts to even consider but could he be the problem?

    Ryan I suspect will become a Heatley 2.0(but dealt with far more professionally as that’s his character)…. I will be absolutely livid if Ryan is gone because he regularly plays 12 fucking minutes.

    • MoeDozer

      i wouldnt cross out that theory but i dont think its the main issue at the moment. coach is still new to running his own NHL team, im not ready to quit on him, this franchise has bounced through too many coaches in the past few years to start looking again.

      I think the bigger problem is the system he is trying to implement. The Detroit style of playing quick passes up the middle works..if you have skilled players. guys like greening condra half our dmen on most nights dont have the touch to make those passes.

      condra and greening always get tons of love from sens fans, ive never been a fan of either. they were both 7th round picks for a reason. both are in their “prime” age at 27. my mind is always blown at how much difficulty these guys have clearing a puck. way too soft always.

      • Jacques

        I agree 14 and 22 suck, there are better players in Bingo. It was never more evident than today just how bad Condra is. He generates zippo and he sucks at killing penalties also. He can’t even lift the puck to clear the zone.

    • Aaron 2.0

      Full disclosure. I only watched 10 minutes in the 2nd today. I really don’t like afternoon weekend games (that’s family time!). So, my opinions are based on the season (not today).

      It’s time to look at MacLean! I love the style of play he asks the team to play. It’s all about supporting each other, and moving the puck. When it goes right, it makes for beautiful hockey. But, the issue is that the player support is often lacking. People are open all the time in front of our goaltenders. We’re basically asking them to make crazy post-to-post saves every game. And, support leaving the zone can be pretty bad at times too, leading to turn-overs. I don’t think there’s necessarily a problem with the game plan. I just don’t think we have the pieces to play this way. We have so, so many young players. Playing this style takes great attention to detail. And, our young guys are prone to lapses. I look at other young teams, and in the defensive end they are playing with so much more structure. I think it’s time for MacLean to re-evaluate his structure, or lack thereof. I’m not advocating becoming a trap team, or anything like that. But, simply a more structured game in the defensive end.

      I think the above rant points to another serious concern. MacLean has great ideas about what he wants the team to be. But, in almost all aspects of the game, I find him very slow to make necessary adaptations when things aren’t working, whether it be modifications to systems, line combinations, ice time allocation, etc.

      I’m not saying fire MacLean, but my issue is the guy is so damn likeable, and truly has done some great things already for the team, that he often gets a pass, or makes a joke, and the subject is changed. He’s not made to be accountable for his decisions.

      • SenaTHOR

        Does he really need to be accountable to fans. Yes we buy tickets but we don’t sign his cheques.

        • Aaron 2.0

          Well, I guess this goes back to the conversations about the hockey interview in general. I thought they were part of the job to explain what you are doing to your fans. Most people thought they were useless! But, if not the fans, he’s accountable to management. I wonder what Murray thinks. There has been a few times this year the two have seemed out of sync.

        • sprucesens

          we do. if we don’t go to the games, he doesn’t have a job, because the owner can’t afford to pay him anymore, with no customers.

  • Sandy

    Bruce Garrioch ‏@SunGarrioch 12m

    “This was us just shooting ourselves in the foot right from the start,” said D Marc Methot. Said he couldn’t explain why they were so bad.

    Bruce Garrioch ‏@SunGarrioch 29m

    MacArthur took a shot off the foot. Club officials and coach Paul MacLean say he’ll be fine. #Sens

    • SENSsmile

      Did MacArthur shoot himself in the foot? That wouldn’t surprise me, the way the team non-performed today.

  • Sandy

    Pacioretty got injured in the Habs game today. Looks like a wrist… Left the ice with assistance to the dressing room… Would suck for him to miss the Olympics being injured the last game before the break.. Hit his wrist on the goalpost after being shoved into it..

    • Sensnation

      Crazy thought, but so far the biggest regret for team USA is not taking Jack Johnson. Do you think they’d ever take him as the replacement instead, despite his position? If injuries get bad in the tourney they can just put an extra dman on the 4th line.

      • FBP

        For Canada’s sake, I hope so.

  • FBP

    That wasn’t fun. It’ll be interesting to see if GMBM decides we’re buyers or sellers. To me, something in between makes sense. Like San Jose last year. Trade away some expiring contracts that would be valuable to cup contenders (Phillips-Michalek) for younger players that have some term left but have questionable upside.

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    Cowen is not an nhl defenceman
    He needs to be traded before the whole league realizes this
    He is slow and out of place plus he does not use his size
    TRADE him NOW

    • SENSsmile

      Oh, but nooooo… SIP! You don’t understand. Cowen is SPECIAL.

      That’s why he gets and deserves SPECIAL treatment. Coach MacLean is either following specific orders from the top or he has a big man-crush on SPECIAL Cowen (+plus a few others on the team who don’t need to be named.)

      You see, Cowen is so special that he can hold out on training camp, get rewarded with a big contract and then play horrible hockey for an entire year and yet still be playing big minutes each game, no matter how many times he screws up.

      But that doesn’t matter: a bunch of people on this forum (family or personal friends?) will defend this SPECIAL guy to death, because according to them, he’s destined to become another Z. Chara. Why? Because he’s big, tall and clumsy just like Chara was in her earlier years,. So it only stands to reason that he’s bound to become a superstar too… eventually… some day.

      We just need to be really, really, really patient with him. /sarc.

      • Sensnation

        If that’s all you get out of what his supporters say, you miss the boat completely!

        • SENSsmile

          No, I think I understand what his supporters keep saying about Cowen’s youth and potential, etc., but that’s not my point here.

          Maybe I shouldn’t be so hard on Cowen, because he’s not the one who decides how many minutes he plays and who he plays with. If he’s still seen as a potential future star, then he certainly shouldn’t be put in a position to fail. Clearly, he’s not even close to being ready to take on his current responsibilities with the team. I really don’t get what MacLean is doing with him.

          I especially don’t like the special treatment that he keeps getting. Most other players who don’t play well after a few games normally get demoted (i.e. play less minutes), get benched for at least a few games, or get sent to Bingo. Somehow, this doesn’t apply to Cowen. He’s been getting way too many free passes this year and I’m completely mystified.

          • aegiszx

            I’m just going to speculate that Cowen’s treatment has to do with…
            - 9th overall pick
            - Rare breed of being a shutdown D-man
            - Big $$$ / Contract
            - Murray or Eugene imposing their will/wishes that Cowen play

            From the above, you can see why he’s given preferential treatment…

          • SENSsmile

            Good points, aegis, but Brian Lee, Jim O’Brien and Nick Foligno were 1st picks with high expectations, and yet they certainly didn’t get so many free passes. Two out of three have in fact been shipped to other teams and it’s only a matter of time before O’Brien (currently in Bingo) gets moved elsewhere.The big-ass contract to Cowen doesn’t guarantee in itself that he’s destined to become a “rare breed shutdown D-man.” To me, giving him preferential treatment only equates to two wrongs making a right. I don’t see the logic in this approach.

    • sben

      been yelling this for the past year. Perhaps this game will make maclean realize this. I hope the sens lose one game to make them realize how bad he is now rather than keep him as a liability for many years to come. Trade him to division rival buffalo.

    • Sandy

      Spezza was a -3.. so I guess he is second on the list to trade?

      • SENSsmile

        Careful with your question, you might not like the answer. (just kidding.)

      • Jacques

        Yes, standing still all f-ing game again!

  • SenaTHOR

    On the goal that Gryba was on for he took away the passing lane for what seemed like an eternity. Cowen went to Timmy’s and had a large coffee and a dozen donuts. He didn’t even show up after he scored.

    • sben

      the problem is that karlsson is an offensive defenseman and they think cowen is a good defensive defenseman. Naturally they put them together so that you have one offensive defenseman and one defensive defenseman on the same pairing. THe issue is that cowen is the most overrated player on the sens and sucks in all facets of gameplay. They thinkk cowen could make up for karlssons offensive mind but he can’t because he sucks in general

      • Sandy

        Cowen needs a veteran defenseman to be paired with to help develop him and cover his mistakes. Karlsson is not that defenseman as Karlsson makes his own mistakes as well on the defensive side.. Put Karlsson with Methot again.. and try to find a vet to play with Cowen that is not named Corvo or Phillips..

        • sben

          agree

  • karlssens

    Screw trading for a rental.. Get Hoffman on spezzas wing NOW! 25 G (2 tonight)

    • aegiszx

      When are people going to realize Spezza plays with Spezza… ZIbby, Milo, Ryan, Greening… No. One. Understands. What. He. Will. Do.

      Spezza adjusts to no one. It is the other way around… players must adjust to Spezza.

    • Sandy

      Did Lawson get hurt again? Seems like the B-Sens changed goaltenders?

    • Jacques

      No no let’s keep playing f-ing Condra.

  • Andrews theory

    I still think they make the playoffs.

    Inconsistency is a trade mark of a young team. They mailed this game in and it sucks but as I’ve said all season, they need a reliable defender in the top 4 to bump down Cowens ice time. The best of defensmen take years to develop at this level, why in the hell are we pushing the envelope for him to play top pairing minutes.

    Top 4 defender is a must on this team as we have too many guys cutting their teeth along with two guys whose teeth are falling out from age.

    Realistically we have two legit top 4 defensman

    The rest are 5-6 guys at this stage

    Fix that and the consistency will improve.

    • Sandy

      Inconsistency in a young team.. yes. But today was no excuse not to show up…

    • Laurence Babchyuk

      Good time for the break.
      Sadly no trades were made and were still stuck with phillips and spezza.

      Oh well… Karlsson had a tuff game,it’s rare that you see that

      • bluebuyyoo

        Seriously? Do you even watch the games?

    • Aaron 2.0

      Absolutely agree. One more top-4 D would be huge for this team. A lot of hate for some of our young players (e.g. Cowen), but it’s definitely a case of unrealistic expectations for these guys, combined with them playing in roles before they are ready. We’re asking a sophomore returning from surgery to play top minutes, and fans are crucifying him because he doesn’t look ready for it!

      • SenaTHOR

        See I think Methot/Gryba can be shutdown 3 / 4 guys doing 22 min against the other teams top lines..Their main forward combo is Smith Neil Greening.

  • Sensnation

    What year of the rebuild is this? How many cup runs were fans expecting DURING the rebuild that the results so far this year are such an “end of the world” scenario?

    Patience is key, and very much lacking right now. It was obvious for years before this that the void created by Alfie’s eventual departure this year, coupled with the decline of some vets, would be a difficult learning season. But it’s a season this group of young players needs to go through to get to where they are going.

    Hard to run before you can walk!

    • FBP

      I demand the Sens win the Stanley, Grey and Kyp cup annually.

    • Aaron 2.0

      Lol. Tell that to my 9 & 1/2 month old son (walking before running)! We definitely still have a ways to go in re-building. I’m hoping that management sees the upcoming trade deadline through that lens. If players with expiring contract don’t have a future, then you have to look for dancing partners. The problem is that i’m not sure how much value our expiring contracts have this year.

  • Sandy

    @TSNBobMcKenzie: Not official, but I’m told initial prognosis on Pacioretty is that while he won’t return tonight, he’s expected to be good to go for Sochi.

  • Gordon Ramsli

    Perhaps this blow out of a loss is the perfect thing we need going into a Olympic Break, Might give a sense of urgency to some players in our organization that they need to step up or they will find themselves on the next bus out of town come deadline.

    The weak points on our team to me are, Cowen, Greening, Phillips and Corvo have just both seen better days unfortunately

    Id rather see Borowiecki, Stone, Dacosta, Hoffman & Grant move up to fill the voids in our lineups

    Gryba has impressed me since he has become our shut down defenseman still makes mistakes but definitely shows improvement Andy Sutton 2.0

    Our teams “Peskyness” comes from within not trading and signing overpriced players.

    • PraiseAlfie11

      Don’t give up on Cowen yet. He’s young. There’s a “sophmore jinx” term for a reason.

      • Gordon Ramsli

        Sadly Cowen soured my milk during the post season for holding out for more money and missing camp then underperforming all season long.

        I’d rather have a local Ottawa guy with a heart and soul worth ethic in Borowiecki in our lineup

        • PraiseAlfie11

          Agreed. That hold out knocked him down more than a few notches in my book too.

        • K_hog

          Hey,all players hold out, so you can’t hold that against him, I believe he will be a stud once he gains more experience. Defencemen take longer to reach the maturity to play in the NHL, for whatever reason. I don’t want to see him gone to another team, only to see him become a star on that team….give him time. Go Canada!!

  • luckan20

    Leafs and Habs are winning. Canucks are on a free fall. We have a trading partner.

    • Sandy

      Who would you want from the Canucks? Underperforming player for underperforming player?

      • luckan20

        Bieska would be an ideal guy, but he has NTC. In forward ranks, I dont mind Booth

        • Sandy

          Somehow I don’t see Bieska waiving his NTC to come to Ottawa..

  • Matty5634

    Disappointing game – especially since I live in Vancouver and rarely see games that aren’t on a choppy feed. Forgettable game. But I’m going to be in the stands tonight to watch some of the future – Vancouver Giants vs Curtis Lazar’s Edmonton Oil Kings. I’m guessing it will be a more entertaining game.

  • sben

    Chet sellers (satirist)tweet : somewhere over the atlantic ocean, karlsson finishes his scotch and closes his eyes, seeking a few hours sleep. all he sees is jared cowen

  • Aaron 2.0

    Well, with Detroit losing above us, and Carolina losing below us, we didn’t really lose any ground tonight. A whole 2 weeks off from the NHL. What should we talk about? Personally, i’m most interested to know how people are feeling about the trade deadline. We’re still stuck in no-mans land in the standings. And we’re probably going to be with this pack to the bitter end. What should the team be trying to accomplish on deadline day?

    • SENSsmile

      Good question, Aaron. I think they should stay the course and forget about any notion of improving the team through rental players. That would be a disastrous error IMHO. I would hope that Murray will stick with what he has and see how things go. This is a good opportunity to evaluate their roster and prospects and manage fan expectations. Big deal if they don’t make the playoffs. I don’t mind that the team loses, but certainly not the way they did today in Boston. This is where evaluation is key. The near future looks pretty good. Let’s hope Sens management doesn’t mess it up with crazy last-minute transactions. Only one team wins the Stanley Cup and this is certainly not the Sens’ year, so they need to keep the eye on the ball and not lose focus of the big picture.

      • Aaron 2.0

        I agree with you. Rentals don’t make any sense; it would be a desperate move, IMO. If they could move expiring contracts that would be great. But, really i’m not sure there’s value in Michalek, Corvo, Phillips, & Kassian. If they were looking to resign any of those, I wouldn’t mind Michalek. He could probably be had for a bargain now. He might be the only player with some value though as a rental…

        • PraiseAlfie11

          I don’t think teams looking to go for it will get a rental player who is having a bad year.

          I think Michalek will be back because of the cap floor.

    • PraiseAlfie11

      IMO, successful people create a plan based on educated opinions and stick to the plan. Sens should stick to the plan, replacing the ones who aren’t realistically seen as meeting their potential.

      Take Greening for example. This guy has everything it takes to be a power forward. Has speed, size and strength, but just doesn’t use it. His numbers have been dropping every year. Some could say it’s because he’s no longer on the top line, to which I ask: why is he no longer on the top line? See above.

      • K_hog

        A lot of it seems to be motivation, and I don’t know why NHL players need motivating. Some games he shows up, and others he’s invisible. You could say that about a lot of players. He could also be trade bait…. I guess we’ll find out soon enough.
        On another note, it’s quite a change on here as opposed to the Sun site. Intelligent comments and discussion…no name calling. Fantastic!!!!
        Go Canada!!!

        • PraiseAlfie11

          Agreed on the level of participants here versus the sun readers :)

          As for Greening, the only thing I can imagine is that he’s playing the way he is so that his body isn’t ruined by the age of 35. He reminds me of Dryden in that way. It wouldn’t surprise me if he retired at a very young age.

  • SenaTHOR

    Heard there is a new discussion for one of our dmen with a number higher than 46 and lower than 65. Don’t know any details. I guess this is nothing new as it was in the rumor mill for 2 months.

  • Phoenix

    Just seen some high lights and what embarresment. As for cowen I am torn on him. You wanted the money but play like a pee wee tonigh so step up. Now I wont put all the blame on him. He missed alot last year but he needs a vet to bring him along. Karlsson had kuba and gonachar. Hopefully Murray gets him help to turn this sad start to a career. Now Karlsson grow up, that was very sad game. What kind of example did you set tonight to your team, fans, and most importantly the young kids who follow you. You have done some great things but a sad performance like that puts a big blemish or career.

  • sprucesens

    I picked a great day to do reno’s! Anyways, a few points to think on. All the people that defend cowen, all have decent points, about injuries and time playing in the NHL, and that’s fair. But the knocks against him are much bigger. Horrible play, contract hold out, worse play, injuries and more bad play. Those that defend potential need to open their eyes. yes we are all afraid of losing chara 2.0 again. But just because a player is big, and is picked in the first round, doesn’t mean he is going to be good enough to be a top NHL’r, let alone a chara-lite. If he wasn’t picked in the first round, EVERYONE would be agreed that he shouldn’t even be on the team, let alone the top line. Especially when we have players like boro and claesson pushing hard for a spot. I’m not saying we can’t be patient and see if he realizes his potential, but we also need to completely neglect his draft position now. He’s ours. If he isn’t good enough, its that simple. We have to either let him play through it, and become what we hope he is, or learn soon that he is just a terrible hockey player, who was built to be a perfect defenceman.

    I’m glad the team got beat bad. Hopefully this is enough to tell get murray to sell on the players that don’t have a future on the team. We aren’t good enough now to win a cup. Lose the extra players now, for any kind of picks/prospects. Promote from within. Give guys like hoffman, prince, puempel, pageau, robinson, grant and so on a decent look in the nhl, playing in their appropriate roles. Don’t put hoffman on a 4th line with smith and neil. He needs to play with turris, zbad or spezza. Don’t put pageau in a checking role either. A guy like robinson could be the eventual replacement for neil. See if this is a possibility. It’s time to finish off the rebuild properly. Start giving lehner a few more games too, so we can be more sure of what the plans are for anderson, next year.

    As far as rentals go, its not ideal. The idea here, would be to get someone like hemsky or cammalleri or some other “rental” at a very cheap price, before someone else does. If it takes anything more than a 3rd round pick for hemsky, or 3rd and prospect for cammy, there is no need for it. While the “rental” portion may or may not get us into the playoffs, it certainly isn’t going to win us a cup. What we really would be buying, is a chance to sign the player before anyone else, on july 1st. If they get us into the playoffs too, and we make some extra cash and earn some good XP for the young guys, great!

    If this was a game that players needed to send a message to management that they are indeed a part of the team, it doesn’t sound like anyone should be safe. But as fans, we need to remember, 10-1 or 1-0, its 2 pts. We can win the next one. I’d rather get all my lousy plays out in one game, then have a single lousy play each game, ruin many.

    GO sens GOOOO.

  • sprucesens

    “… Was a finalist with Jordan Eberle (WHL) and Tyler Seguin (OHL) for CHL player of the year award.” guess who this player is……….Mike Hoffman!! sitting 2nd in points in the AHL. Has been at the top of our team every year he has played for us. Yes he’s small. Why aren’t we actually giving this guy a shot? That’s pretty good company to keep. And hes proven to be very useful at the AHL level. This guy needs a legit chance to succeed, and i hope it is with our team!