Game Day- Gotta Win

SensChirp March 18, 2014 896
Game Day- Gotta Win

It was probably one of the worst weekends of hockey in recent memory. A shocking loss to the Montreal Canadiens followed by a fairly uninspired performance against the Colorado Avalanche the next night. And what’s worse for the Ottawa Senators- it came with their season on the line.

After two crushing losses, I am done with the term must win. The Senators now find themselves in a situation where they pretty much have to run the table if they want to make the playoffs.

With just 15 games left in their season, the Ottawa Senators certainly have their backs against the wall.  I will say this though- They come into tonight trailing the Rangers by 7 points. That’s a huge gap. But Ottawa does have two games in hand. If we foolishly assume those games are wins, the gap is 3 points. The Senators play the Rangers tonight and again before the season is over. If you’re like me and you’re looking for any shred of hope to cling to, there it is.

No changes expected for the Senators.  Here is how Head Coach Paul MacLean has them lined up at the morning skate.

MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
Michalek-Spezza-Hemsky
Greening-Smith-Neil
Hoffman-Zibanejad-Condra

Methot-Karlsson
Phillips-Ceci
Cowen-Gryba

Craig Anderson was on the ice with the team during this morning’s skate but is not expected to dress tonight. That means Robin Lehner makes a third straight start in the Ottawa goal. Puck drop is scheduled for just after 7:30 PM.

  • my2sens

    Trying to stay positive.

    6.1% chance of making playoffs. If all goes well tonight, we can move that number to 11.3%.

    That would take the following teams to win: Sens (Rangers) – Boston (New Jersey) – Toronto (Detroit) – Chicago (Philadelphia) – Carolina (Columbus) – Anaheim (Washington) – Colorado (Montreal)

    Speaking of Colorado/Montreal – I would love to see the same thing to happen in tonight’s game as did in Ottawa. Roy would murder someone!

    Last – seeing how Hemsky is bringing out the best in Michalek… are there any other Czech’s out there we can acquire!?

    • karlsson65

      Really, Michalek? He looked terrible against the Avs. I seriously think most of the guys on my men’s rec team can pick up a pass more cleanly. Time to move on.

      • CC

        Agree. Goodbye Milo.

        • The Apostle

          Isn’t there some start that the line of Spezza and the Czech lads have 17 points since Hemsky joined. It’s something like that anyway, In all of this Michalek has 2 or 3 of those points.

          I think that most of the money we are giving Michalek we will be giving to Hemsky. Whilst that does still mean we have a experience gap in our top 6, I like the 5 that will be there more than the 5 we had for most of this year. Not only do I like Hemsky as a player more than Michalek, he seems to have really gelled with Spezza.

          • MethotToMyMadness

            I agree that Milo is gone, he won’t be coming back next year. And yes, most of what the Sens were paying him will fall into Hemsky’s lap, if he does sign with us. I hope we can lure him here, but the Sens Management need to show him that they plan to make the team around them all better. Hemsky is a RW, and if he continues to play with Spezza that points us to needing a LW to play on the top line.

            The LW options of FA’s are slim, when you consider players the Sens may be able to lure here. So maybe look for a RW option that has the ability to play both sides and a history of it. So with that notion, there is a Goal scorer, who has been consistent and I’ve said his name a few times that I think would fit. It’s Radim Vrbata. This kid is all about goal scoring and with two play makers like Spezza and Hemsky, this would be an amazing line.

        • Tooks

          Whose Milo? I already forgot about him. Thx for your services (or lack thereof)

    • BFR

      Jagr.

  • MethotToMyMadness

    After my comments, and most of the Fans comments, tonight will be one of those games Sens fans have something to cheer about. I have this sneaking suspicion they will play one of the better games this year, tonight. That is my feeling, let’s see if it’s right.

    • my2sens

      Seeing as I am one of the few remaining positive folks, which in turn means I am wearing rose colored glasses…. Condra with a hat trick tonight!

      • Floridasensfan

        You mean blinders lol
        Would love to be wrong.
        (Condra hat trick)

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      One can dream

      • MethotToMyMadness

        It’s a feeling I have, but a lot of it falls on how the Sens have been performing this season. They usually put together a strong game, a few games that are iffy and then a stinker, which then follows with a strong game. But where we are now, it’s somewhat a dream too, lol

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          I tend to agree with the sequence of events… So really we are due

          • Tooks

            So every 4th or 5th game we show up. Thats great.

          • MethotToMyMadness

            Tooks, that’s how you win the NHL, didn’t you know that? ;)

  • Sens613

    Sounds like even chirp is struggling to stay positive but just like any true fan we still try to grab onto any glimmer of hope; Once that glimmer of hope blossoms, it’s just going to be that much more magical.

    Optimism trumps the pessimist in me. GSG!

  • Spoons

    Playoff hopes? Sens need to win 3 in a row, then maybe I’ll change my tune. The Sens need to win some game in a decisive way though. Feels like all Sens wins are close ones.

    • my2sens

      A win is a win, no?

  • SensChirp

    I don’t ask for much but if you could all vote in this poll it would be greatly appreciated. I hate the song but it needs to brought back on principle at this point. Could be just what this team needs to turn their season around! Well, that and another top four defenceman.

    http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=53285b12e4b07c9e253b0624

    • my2sens

      Voted YES – least I can do for you keeping us informed on this site!

      Why was it banned?

      • The Apostle

        because it’s shit

        • SensChirp

          Hey! I mean, you’re right but still….Hey!

          It was actually one of the few songs they played that always seemed to bring the crowd to life. The song stinks but it was effective, damn it.

      • Tooks

        Ya why was it banned in the first place? I dont really listen to the music at CTC but whatever helps I guess.

      • BFR

        Wasn’t it because it was dated, and they were going for more current tunes?

    • Miguel

      done… comandante, easy request to complete

    • Senators Pundit

      Agreed, Michalek is deadweight. Shoots a lot, never hits the net. Gotta go.

    • sell the team Eugene

      A fun poll – a nice way to lighten the somber mood around here – thanks

      I’d vote to bring back the old Bugs Bunny montage as well

  • Don Ciccio

    Wiercioch out of the lineup again? I just don’t get it, it’s not like they win with him out of the lineup. Of the last 5 games that Wiercioch has sat the Sens are 1-4……I guess Maclean doesn’t want to mess with a winning lineup.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      I haven’t understood his benching all year

      • Andrews theory

        Oh it’s easy… Why would you want to play a guy that can make an awesome first pass and has the potential to be a legit two way top 4

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Hahahahaha

        • CUP 2014-15

          Agree and I think he needs to play to develop but the problem is that Cowen and PW cant move to the right side. That leaves some options, remove EG resulting in Cowen moving back along side Karl and Methot moving to the right side to play with PW (Methot’s twitter account “NHL defenseman with the Ottawa Senators, preferably on the left side”). Other option could be to move CP to the right with Cowen and play PW with CC. CP not very good on the left side these days and worse on the right. So, how does PW get back in as I agree with you but how does it get done? Him and Cowen are a non-starter for this staff at this point I think.

          • Tooks

            Thats the problem, Cowen and Phillips start over anyone, even when playing like shit. PW46 plays once in awhile, scores and goes back to the press box…

            I’ll send Patty a little tweet and tell him to suck balls and he’s gonna be in like flinn.

        • Tooks

          I know right, its mind boggling…Instead we have to suffer through brain fart Phillips and Cowen the tortoise

    • Miguel

      yah no way that he sits ahead of Cowen, and Phillips at this point.
      But many decisions right now have nothing to do with winning or losing… obviously!

  • SensChirp

    @SeguinSports Ast coach Mark Reeds will undergo a medical procedure that will force him to miss time with the team. No further info available.

    Like I mentioned, nothing to do with Melnyk forcing the move. Hope Mark Reeds is healthy and back with the team soon.

    • Andrews theory

      Are we totally certain Melnyk didn’t steal one of his organs while he slept?

      • Doc

        The plot thickens…

    • CUP 2014-15

      Hope Reeds is not in too deep and is able to return to full health soon. Good luck Mr. Reeds.

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      Mysterious medical procedure, no return date and Cameron the 1A now behind MacLean. Yep, no Melnyk there at all.

  • Andrews theory

    Well logic and the Sens 2014 track record would indicate that the boys will come up with a big effort tonight. NYR are after all one of the best teams in the East and for some painful unknown reason, they tend to show for the good teams and sleep for the crappy teams.

    That said, it’s Boston or NY coming out of the east this year without a question.

  • Andrews theory

    As suspected, there are a large number of wealthy parties interested in acquiring the Senators….

    Hopefully one of them can pry the franchise out of Euges clutches

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Source?

      • Andrews theory

        Verbal

        • SensChirp

          Have heard the same. Doesn’t really matter if he doesn’t want to sell.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            I have too but yet to See Anything concrete… Honestly if he would just take even a partner I think we’d be significantly better off

          • BFR

            As long as the contact includes a gag and no meddling clause that if breached, forced EM to sell his remaining portion to said new partner.

          • Doc

            Yost’s article from yesterday, which was a very good read, got pulled again.

            Chirp, are you aware of any gag orders on certain subjects? Were you warned yourself?

            This is getting ridiculous.

    • boom

      Did i miss something? Who are these parties?

      • Cicero

        Where are the parties?

    • FBP

      I think the Euge would have to be extremely desperate to sell the Sens. What we know of his life in the last decade is pretty brutal – run ins with the law, kicked out of the company that he grew and that made him a billionaire, barred from being on a public board, nasty divorce, new company constantly tanking and suffering setbacks.

      The Sens might be one of the last things keeping him sane.

      • sell the team Eugene

        It’s time for EM to sell the team, but a dog and move to
        Barbados permanently

      • The Apostle

        barely at that given his press conferences

    • Zelle

      I wish I could buy the Senators :( I love business and I love hockey.

  • zBernatchez

    I really hope Eugene gets off his wallet in the off season and gets a first line LW, a d man who’s actually consistent and signs hemsky or next season will be another no show in the playoffs

    • sell the team Eugene

      didn’t happen this year – what makes you thing he will start
      spending money on the team ?

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      The important thing is COST PER POINT. Any idiot can spend to the cap, COST PER POINT.

  • Bob

    My 2 cents.. We could spend to the cap and still have a crappy team. Think the owners of the Panthers are making money? It would take an owner that has lot more money to lose then EM. And if the reports are correct about the added money, that should help this “cash strapped” team.
    More issues than just how much money you spend on the talent, or the lack thereof.. you could write a 100 page blog about that..
    Odd, on paper before the season started, I felt we had a Much better team than the year before, but here we are.

    • BFR

      Nobody’s saying spend for the sake of spending to the cap. It’s about making the right decisions on where the weaknesses are and spending an appropriate amount to address those weaknesses. Spending in the bottom 5 of the league is not going to do that.

      • Sandy

        Agreed.. If you need a top 6 winger/centre.. then spend to get one… Same goes for a top 4 D.
        The problem is, Melnyk has said.. he’s still going to operate on a budget.. even with the TV $$$

    • sell the team Eugene

      YESSSSSS – spending money WISELY is part of the winning formula.

      See Detroit / Chicago / Pittsburgh.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    I have a midterm tonight so I probably wont catch the first 2 periods with that being said I will take the blame for the sens losses this season. Seems like everytime I dont want a game, they actually show up. If they win tonight, I may just disconnect my cable for the season and see how it goes. On the other hand, Tonight is DO or die that is for sure If we win, I will have a bit of hope. GO SENS GO BELIEVE

    • CUP 2014-15

      OK Moudy, how about you watch only 3 more games as 12 wins should do it. Then when the new season starts in mid April, you can refocus, get someone to remove the spell or evil spirits and on we go pal.

      • Moudy Mahfouz

        We will see how tonight goes before I make any decisions.

        • CUP 2014-15

          Good luck with midterm tonight and don’t turn on the game until it’s over, just by chance you didn’t turn the game on V the habs with a few minutes left did you?

          • Moudy Mahfouz

            Funny part is I was watching the first 2 periods then went to the bar and witnessed the debacle and looked at my bank statement the next day and damn…Not the best night $$ wise. I blame the Sens and the refs for that one. Thanks man! By the time I get home I will maybe catch the 3rd.

    • my2sens

      Ok. So we disconnect Moudy’s TV and buy that guy his damn steak!! Where did he go!?!?

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Well it’s my job to coach the team and that’s all part of it. We’re going to play every game and like I’ve always said, I still believe we’re going to like where we are after 82. Interesting comment by Maclean. Notice the last part…

    • karlssens

      Simply false confidence to get the team going. He knows deep down it’s unlikely.

      • Moudy Mahfouz

        BELIEVE.

    • CUP 2014-15

      LOL, I just read that and he must know something about the future. Unless this team wins all 15 games and finish with 99 points. PM being PM. All year we have been hearing that along with best players play and were still searching for our best team. Well I would be happy with 93 points as well I guess so 6 points to spare, not much wiggle room left.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    All jokes aside. I like to be positive and I look at the next 5 games being very winnable for the Sens. They could still turn it around and hopefully it starts tonight. Tampa Bay has a back to back thursday and we catch them on the second game. JUST EFFING WIN PLEASE..

    • Tooks

      At this point, its all in the hands of our Jack Adam! He must play the shit out of the top 2 lines and play 3rd and 4th alot less. Will that happen, probably not but hey, its what needs to happen.

      • boom

        You are right on all counts, sadly.

  • Sandy

    Maybe the unfortunate medical issues that Reeds have will be a motivation for this team.
    Some nights they play good.. but then every mistake seems to end up in the back of the net.. That’s the problem.

  • Miguel

    chirpers, we have had plenty of deserved negativity about our beloved Sens this year.
    just as everyting seemed to go our way last year, everything turned up roses, this year is the complete opposite!
    We seemingly cannot do anything right, from owner, to manager to coaches to players, everyone has had a big part to play in the downturn of our inflated expectations.
    We are not as fickle as many claim to say, even in a terrible comeback from the olympics we still managed to sellout against the avalanche, even though many of us have lost hope for the year.
    Truth is in many games, we have seemingly outplayed some teams, and it seems that we throw many pucks at the net and cant buy one, wheres the other team throws one at our net and it bounces off 2 people and in the net… and bam just like that we are in catch up, and many teams are forced to play differently when behind.
    All this to say, as long as we have games to play, and a possibility to get in, we still have hope… just please, and I beg please PLEASE you dickhead refs, play fair!!!

  • boom

    Just heard on the radio that Hoffman and Greening have swapped lines.
    Poor Zibby! That’ll be his last goal of the season if they stick with that line-up.

    • Mat

      Poor Hoffman too! He’s playing with Smith and Neil remember?

    • xN1Cx

      Didn’t they play really well together last year or earlier in the year? Greening/Zibby/Condra that is?

    • sprucesens

      whyyyyy!?? Hoffman has been a steady offensive presence. Yeah he only has a couple of points to show for it, but the guy is generating more offensive chances by himself then the entire line he just got put on. Hopefully he doesn’t see it as a demotion and both the ORG and himself, want to remain on the sens

      • boom

        I think you misunderstood. I was expressing sympathy for Zibby for having to play with Greening and Condra. I have no issue with Hoffman, i think he will look good on any line…
        Someone pointed out that Greening – Zibby – Condra played together in the playoffs last year and looked pretty good, so we will see, I guess.

  • Sandy

    Steve Lloyd ‏@TSNSteveLloyd 1h

    The asst coach switch was made to lighten load for Reeds. Maclean changes the Fs anyway. All the best to Mark as he deals w/ medical issue.

    • Mat

      Medical issues?

      • SensChirp

        “Reeds will undergo a medical procedure in the coming days that will require that he be absent from the team at times.”

        • CohMa

          Maybe Jason Smith will hop on the bench and be the coach for the D. Or maybe he should put his skates on. He might be slow but I’m sure he could play better defence than we’ve been playing lately.

          • Doc

            I would see that happening. Might teach them how to play D while being a mean machine.

  • Inquiring Mind

    Back in the Bruce Firestone day there was a huge online petition to save
    the Senators.

    Would something similar asking Melnyk to sell the team (or at least run it properly)
    be worthwhile ?

    We’d need someone with language skills (Hax?) to write the preamble.

  • Millennium

    http://www.capgeek.com/ufa-finder/

    So, if Milo walks in July, who on that list do we realistically see Ottawa signing? Not exactly a bumper crop of top 6 wingers and top 4 D.
    If Lazar makes the lineup, does that push Greening or Condra down, or (god no) up? Does Hoffman stay around? Gryba? Both are RFA.
    Can they re-sign Hemsky?

    Looks to me like our top 9 could be very different next season depending how this summer plays out.

    • runningbear1974

      I don’t want any free agents unless it’s another Macarthur…
      I want to see the young guys like Hoffman, DaCosta, and Stone…
      Lazar should spend a year down in Bingo… That’s the right way to develop people…

      • Millennium

        Well, as long as you’re ok with not making the playoffs again next year. Running 5-6 rookies/newbies in your top 9 is rarely a successful strategy.

        As for Lazar, he is considered the most NHL ready prospect in the league. I can’t say for sure he deserves to play next season, but they are gonna take a serious look at him.

        • A-Train

          Give him a look, and maybe a cup of coffee to start the season, but Binghamton should be his home. Learn the game, the tougher aspects of being a pro. The Senators have had much better luck with that approach over the years.

          • MethotToMyMadness

            I agree. It’s great to see and showcase our young guys in the NHL for awhile, when we are hurt and need the help. But a very long string of unfortunate events have caused us to dip into that pool WAY to often and now we are seeing the affects of it. I am all for giving our younger guys as many games/seasons in the A as possible.

          • Millennium

            For the most part I agree. But if you believe some of the reports, this org really thinks Lazar can compete for a spot sooner rather than later. I expect him to spend most of the year in Bingo, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he made the cut either.

          • A-Train

            My fear is the team will give in to the temptation to hype him as a saviour. He does look promising, but so did David Rundblad the “best defence man outside the NHL” at one point.

          • MethotToMyMadness

            The other temptation that we are seeing all to often is the ability to bring in a young guy on an entry level contract to fill a position that use to be filled by a guy making 2-3 Mil. On a budget team, like the Sens, it’s becoming more of a trend and another reason why we are seeing a plethora of hot headed kids in the NHL that aren’t happy.

        • runningbear1974

          I’m ok with not making the playoffs if we’re practicing our young guys… But, I believe they have what it takes…
          I’m tired of our veterans, and I don’t want to see the effort we put in them to help them develop…
          They will take a look at Lazar, and it will be a mistake to play him right away… It’s always better to have a year in the AHL… Almost always better…
          I don’t want to spend next year trying to find a winger for Spezza, that has been pretty depressing this year…

        • Zelle

          I can’t wait until Lazar is NHL ready!

        • Tooks

          Of Ottawa prspects maybe, not the entire NHL prospect pool, he needs to play the pro game for a year atleast.

          • Millennium

            In the whole NHL prospect pool, he is considered one of the closest to NHL ready. Aside from guys like Drouin.

        • sens23

          Lazar cannot play in Bingo next year he is too young.
          what will most likely happen is Lazar will get the 9 game tryout in Ottawa then back to Edmonton and the World Juniors

          • Millennium

            True, he won’t be 20 until February, so he’ll have to spend the first part of the season with Edmonton if he doesn’t make the cut. I would assume they would call him up to Bingo after his birthday though.

          • sens23

            that is not how it works
            players have to be 20 before the end of the year to be eligible to play in the AHL. Lazar will not meet that criteria
            so next year lazar wont be able to play in the AHL until the oil kings season ends

          • Millennium

            Yeah someone pointed that out above. Although he’s now played in 4 seasons in the WHL if his short 2010 campaign counts, so that would make him eligible for the AHL. Not sure how many games have to played for a season to count for that though.

          • sens23

            6 games as a 15 year old will not count towards 4 seasons in the WHL.
            its not the end of the world if Lazar has another season in Edmonton and captain the WJ’s team

    • MethotToMyMadness

      I was looking at the exact same page, when i was talking about finding a player to play with Spezza and Hemsky. My choice, Radim Vrbata. He’s Czech, scores a tone and would be a great fit on the top line with proven play-makers.

      He’s no doubt looking for a salary increase, after continually making 3Mil since 08-09. Wouldn’t be outlandish to look for 4 to 4.5. Thoughts?

      • Millennium

        Yeah his name caught my eye as well. I’m not super sure he’d be the right guy, but I bet they consider him. Would all depend on his contract demands, because he’s not getting any younger.

        • MethotToMyMadness

          At 32, he’s got the experience and already has the defensive game style under his belt that they teach in Phoenix. Hard to pry a guy away from a place that doesn’t have freezing weather 6 months of the year, so I expect he’d ask for at least 4.5 on a longer term deal, like 5 years, or 5 M on a shorter term. Those seem to be the numbers these days.

        • Tooks

          Would be amazing if he was a bit younger. Aswesome stat, they both played for Hull (Used to be a big Hull fan, saw them both play there), not together but at different times. :)

          • Doc

            You from around here? As in Gatineau-Hull?

          • Tooks

            No, from Ottawa. Just got into the Olympiques rather than the 67′s, not sure why, just happened.

    • Tooks

      When Milo walks, re-sign Hemsky & Hoffman, only need a top 4 D.

      • Millennium

        ??? Spezza Hemsky
        Mac Turris Ryan
        Hoffman Zib Greening/Condra
        Greening/Condra Smith Neil

        Still missing a forward without Milo. Hoffman hasn’t proven himself enough to get 1st line minutes all season long. He fits better on the 3rd line (although they need a better 3rd line option than Greening or Condra).

  • A-Train

    It wouldn’t be such a bad thing if Anderson had to sit out and heal up for the duration of the season. Feel like we need a good look at exactly where Lehner is at right now.

  • Andrews theory

    if there is truth behind Ryan requiring offseason surgery, I’d be ok with him dealing with that right now and getting a long stretch to recover over the summer.

    • A-Train

      Doubt it will happen though as long as there’s the slight but still possible chance of playoffs.

    • MethotToMyMadness

      I heard something to that affect a few weeks back, but nobody seems to know if there is real truth to it. Or where it’s needed, if it’s needed at all. But yes, if he needs the fix it, do it now, don’t let it linger.

  • A-Train

    By the way I hope people look at what happened with this asst coaches non-story and learn from it. Specifically learn to take anything Yost writes with a healthy heaping of salt.

    • Doc

      The ‘no comment’ from MacLean just made things worse. It would have been a non-issue.

      This wasn’t the only thing that happened though. But I agree, everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

      • The Apostle

        It could be that he didn’t feel it was his place to inform the media of a medical issue with Reeds.

        • Doc

          True, but with how edgy fans are (and with good reason), there are other ways of saying the same thing.

          • Hax

            That’s tough to say. In hindsight yeah sure but at the time should MacLean be expected to be thinking “Gee I better say something now even though we don’t know how Mark would feel just to keep Yost and others from coming up with their own theories?”

            I think the better lesson is just to accept that we don’t usually know what the real reasons are for anything and we should speculate with caution.

          • Doc

            That’s asking a lot though. The media immediately picked up on the switch before it was made public. It was a matter of time before someone asked the question.

            The response raised more eyebrows than the actual act.

            This is to be expected though. Every little details will be scrutinised until the end of the season. Fans looking for answers.

          • Hax

            Yeah I’m not sure what the “solution” is really. On one hand you’re absolutely right that it was easy to see that this would become a story.

            On the other hand, part of me still thinks MacLean and the org should be 100% focused on what’s best for the club and the players/coaches and not give a second though to what the media thinks. As a fan, while I do search for any rumors I can find, I really don’t think we have any “right” to know anything really. It’s always interesting and as fans we care about the players and coaches etc, but really if Murray or MacLean thought it would help the team by 0.0001% to outright lie to my face I’d ultimately be fine with it.

          • Doc

            Indeed. In management we trust.

  • Tooks

    Regin experiment in CHI already over with?

    Blackhawks’ Ben Smith draws choice assignment as Patrick Kane’s center tonight vs. Flyers – http://www.nhl.com/ice/blogpost.htm?id=27301

    That didnt take long, lol.

  • SenaTHOR

    Was speaking to one of the players in the grocery store and he said the Sens are hated by the refs around the league because certain players whine and complain and verbally harass the refs a lot. This could certainly account for the calls and non calls. Refs have memories too.

    • Colin

      Piss poor excuse for taking stupid penalties. Almost *every* NHL game I have seen where a penalty has been called usually has the offending player or his team mates shouting at the ref for making the call.

    • sprucesens

      yeah. its a self feeding problem. they make a bad call once by mistake. we yell at them. they get mad, and make more bad calls on purpose, we get more mad and so on….

    • Sandy

      I really have an issue with that — ie.. refs hate the Sens because of their whining..
      The refs’ jobs are to call a game based on the rule book… period. Nothing else.
      Other outside issues should not come into play… or they are officiating with bias..

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        Not really…this happens at absolutely every single level of sport…it is part of knowing how to play the game.

        • Sandy

          Well.. then.. most of these games are not fairly called.. if bias against one team is taken into account when calling penalties..

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            I won’t deny that there are bias…and that they inevitable come into play, but until we have robotic refs or eyes in the sky that follow the rules/see every angle to a T it is inevitable.

      • Jacques

        The refs are a joke Sandy, the whole year has been a travesty!

  • Andrews theory

    I’d be willing to put down some cash that Lazar gets a minimum 9 game cup of tea with the Senators next fall and may in fact stick with the big club for the season.
    There’s no question that there are beneits of the AHL but the extra year in Junior may be all that he needs.

    Keep in mind, Lazar isn’t a one dimensional player. He can play in all situations and he doesnt necessarily need to make the top 6 to make this team.

    any takers?

    • runningbear1974

      Nope… Not going to take that bet… But, in my opinion, if he stays up that’s really bad news… Meaning that Murray making bad decisions… Not sure Lazar should get a chance ahead of Pageau, Hoffman, Stone, Puemple, DaCosta…

      • Andrews theory

        Hoffman looks like he’s here to stay.
        The other guys listed are much more limited in terms of their versatility so it probably depends on what they feel they need to add next fall. I still wouldnt be suprised to see Michalek retained at a signifcantly reduced price.

        • runningbear1974

          I agree about Michalek… When we signed Phillips to 2-year extension I got the impression this is the main group we intend to try to win a cup with in the next 2 years… So, that’s what we’ll see… Maybe 1 rookie stays up (Hoffman)… The others will be injury call ups…

    • Millennium

      Just a note, as pointed out below, Lazar can’t play in the AHL until he’s at least 20 because he’s from the CHL. His 20th birthday is February 2015, so for at least the first part of the season, its WHL or NHL.

      • runningbear1974

        Ok well that increases likelihood he’ll stay up…

      • BFR

        I think the agreement between the NHL and CHL only takes into
        consideration his age on Dec 31st of that season whether he can be
        assigned to the AHL or be sent to the WHL. Seeing as his birthday is
        after the New Year, he will either make the NHL team, or be sent back to
        the WHL until seasons end. I think something like that happened with
        Cowen…

        • Millennium

          Thanks for the clarification. To me, that makes the decision a little more complex. Another year in the WHL might not really help him any, but a year in the NHL might. Its hard to say, but since its sorta all or nothing, it’ll be really interesting to see what they do.

        • Sandy

          But isn’t there a rule that if they play 4 full CHL seasons they can then play in the AHL even if they are not 20?

          His stats this year are insane…

          http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=134039

          • BFR

            Yup. I forgot how long he’s been with the Oil Kings – assuming those 6 games in 2010 count.

            I wouldn’t be too surprised if he made the team next year though. The only thing that would prevent that would be BM performing several minor miracles on the forward group in the off-season.

          • Millennium

            That’s true. If his 6 games in 2010 count as a season, he’s done 4 years and can play in the AHL before being 20.

          • Jacques

            Nice stats but far from being insane, guys used to get 160 points regularly. I just like the way he works hard!

          • sens23

            6 games as a 15 year old after his midget season will not count as a seasons work so he has only played 3 years including this year

    • Cicero

      Put him on defence beside EK65 haha.

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    So had an interesting chat with someone at work(has worked there close to 20 years)…apparently literally nobody in the building is happy. Certain departments are seeing 4 times the regular turnover rate over the last roughly 1.5 years.

    • runningbear1974

      Do you work at Canadian Tire Centre?

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        I don’t…well I did very briefly at the start of the year of the lockout but it was such a disorganized clusterfuck I lasted about a week.

        Nobody has any idea what is going on anywhere

    • The Apostle

      A lot of this is hangover from the lockout. I had two friends who worked for the organisation who both left before they were pushed due to the staffing cutbacks. Both of them said that morale (other than when talking/dealing directly with the players or management) was piss poor.
      On the plus side both BM and PM were really nice and neither of them will hear a bad word said about a player who used to wear #11. Said he was one of the nicest people you could meet.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        Yeah having had a few chats with this guy over the last couple days has pretty much made me 100% lay that blame on Melnyk. He also reiterated that he is a drunk and is a rather nasty one at that.

      • TookieIs100PercentRight

        You don’t know the half of it. My friend “G” (uncommon French name tha starts with a G) used to work Grounds Crew and apparently there’s (ALLEGEDLY) been a lot of internal “wallet padding”…Sens t-shirts, Praise Alfie towels, he said he (ALLEGEDLY) even saw people lifting tv sets in the back of their vans. so if the team is losing money, that might be one of the reasons.
        Big Chrip can confirm/deny but I’m pretty sure I’m getting a “confirm” on this one.
        TOOKS100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Andrews theory

      100%, I’ve been hearing this for a while… Yesterday I talked at length about the culture and morale of the organization -this isn’t just the on ice team or the coaches it’s the guy that stocks the fridge, the marketing department etc.
      negativity breeds negativity.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        Yup, those are basically the exact people that he was talking about….All the way up to some interaction with Melnyk directly.

        Was a very worrisome discussion.

  • Sensturion
    • SensChirp

      Tonight is the night. Gotta be

      • MethotToMyMadness

        I’m not scared to admit, I still tap my foot to that tune. Brings me back to my hay days, lol

      • my2sens

        Need a mechanical bull in the lobby!

    • Guest

      Holy shit!! at 2:44 of the video, it’s Chris Phillips!!!! WTF!!

  • FistsofNeil25

    Prediction: Sens blowout the Rangers tonight and go on to finish the season 14-1.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      It would oddly enough be a perfect ending to this messed up season.

  • Hax

    Prediction: They play CEJ tonight and 50% of fans cheer loudly while the other 50% are like “wtf are they playing this for and wtf are people cheering it for?”

    • FistsofNeil25

      I thought everybody loved CEJ? No?

  • SensChirp

    Bah. Ian Mendes is swinging the vote towards no. Help me out with a few votes in the Yes column!

    http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=53285b12e4b07c9e253b0624

    • Millennium

      Why exactly is this song banned, and why does it matter that it be unbanned, and why now?

      • Sensturion

        Have you never been to the rink when that song played? It was nuts!

    • Phil.

      Damn you Chirp. Just voted to lift the ban. If I ever run for office, this will come back to haunt me.

    • FistsofNeil25

      It’s still 70-30 in favor of lifting the ban. Why is the song even banned?

    • Doc

      Sorry Chirp. Can’t.

      That song makes me want to punch a kitten.

      • sprucesens

        then the kitten takes it for the team!

    • WaitingSince92

      Sorry. I was going to help your cause, then I saw the question, but fortunately (for YOU…), the aye’s seem to have a significant majority.

  • Sensturion

    When was the song banned? Could be be blamed for the lacklustre years after 2007??

    • SensChirp

      Hasnt played since April 2010 apparently.

      • Sandy

        Some of the song choices lately leave a lot to be desired.
        Foot stomping, hand clapping songs gets the fans engaged.. Duh…

    • my2sens

      CP is in it too!!

  • Pasky

    If Curtis Lazar does look good during camp next year or after his 9 game tryout, how would people feel about packaging Zib and one of Cowen/Weircioch for a bonafide defensive partner for Karlsson. If Vancouver does trade away Kesler without getting a great center in return, maybe the Sens can get Edler for Zibanejad & Weircioch.

    Michalek-Spezza-Hemsky
    MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
    Hoffman-Lazar-Condra
    Greening-Smith-Neil

    Edler-Karlsson
    Methot-Ceci
    Phillips-Cowen
    Borowiecki

    This would obviously be a trade like the Turris trade that would happen in November or December, but if Lazar and Pageau are ready next year then that’s a big log jam down the middle.

    • boom

      I like your creativity, but I can’t believe you (and lots of others?) think that Greening AND Condra should be part of our long term plans?

      I will never understand the loyalty towards these guys.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        I don’t have an issue with either….if they are on the fourth line playing fourth line minutes.

        • boom

          Fair enough. Then, where does Neil play? Third line is not a good answer…

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Don’t know…Again demonstrating our logjam and the fact that a deal of some sort has to happen.

            I don’t want to see Neil moved either, but again…he has to play fourth line minutes.

            I guess out of the regulars the ease I would have in saying good bye would be

            Greening
            Condra
            Neil

            I have a feeling come next year we only have one of them in our lineup

          • boom

            Agreed.

          • Jacques

            It might be greening unfortunately.

          • Jacques

            Neil, time to get an asset for him too!

      • Jacques

        Condra out and Greening will depend on if you can trade him, With that contract!

    • FistsofNeil25

      Edler isn’t that good. I’d be all for trading Zibanejad for the right piece but Edler isn’t. He wouldn’t make this team any better defensively.

    • CC

      ZBJ isn’t going anywhere..

  • Sensturion

    It’s amazing how much I don’t care about Patrick Roy’s return to Montreal. TSN needs to get over it.

    • Phil.

      Don’t worry. If someone sneezes in TO, they’ll shift their focus to that.

    • Sandy

      The only thing I care about is Roy’s team literally crushing those f’in Habs..

  • Sensnation

    Chirp I get that you’re upset with the results this past weekend, hell this entire season, but calling the loss against Colorado uninspired is really unfair to the team. They came out hard after a devastating loss the night before, and outshot one of the top teams in the league 39-22. It wasn’t until the 3rd that the wind disappeared from their sails.

    This is really the problem this year, even when the Sens try hard, all people see is the loss and the score. It’s too bad uninspired is how you saw that game, because it really was a great show of maturity and leadership for them to be able to have left the night before in the past and shown up as much as they did.

    Either way, I’ll be there again tonight, and I’m sure the team will be inspired! As Spezza says, they still believe and they will not stop fighting until there’s nothing left to fight for!

    GO SENS GO!!!

    • CUP 2014-15

      I for one am with you Nation, It ain’t over til it’s over as Yogi said and as close to over as it is, I will be keeping the faith until the numbers dictate that it is done. Lets go boys, need to go 12-3 as of today, lets see that read 11-3 tomorrow.

    • SensChirp

      Fair enough. I feel like I’m the most positive of the bloggers but maybe that was a little negative. It was a must win game that they didn’t win.

    • Jacques

      Zzzzzzzzz

      • Disqus Downvote

        What kind of a rude followup is that? You disagree, but you are unable to put together any kind of coherent reply.

        Please take your anti-Sens bullshit elsewhere as it is getting very stale and completely repetitive, predictable and boring.

  • Tim

    Folks, I am not familiar with the CHL/NHL agreement. Why can’t a player play in the AHL but can in the NHL or be forced to go back to juniors? What’s the reason and or logic?

    • Millennium

      The agreement is designed to protect the CHL from a talent drain too quickly. If every 18+-year old could move into the AHL, their teams probably would have them there sooner.

      • Tim

        Meaning Canadian players only though right?

        • CUP 2014-15

          I would think it would be a league rule for anyone playing in the CHL, nothing to do with nationality. just a guess.

          • Millennium

            North American players only. Euro players in the CHL have a different exception that lets them move up before the age of 20 I believe.

          • CUP 2014-15

            interesting convo, the rules and regs are amazingly confusing and wildly complicated at time, unless your a lawyer. I know that all leagues have some crazy regs. Should you ever want to take a look at rules and regs for a league, try the NCAA, it’s wacky.

          • Tim

            Just never understood the benefit of a 18 or 19yr old playing 15yr olds. Makes some stats inflated imo and can hurt scouting..

          • CUP 2014-15

            Only a handful of 15 yr olds. Connor McDavid (the next one) was the third such player to receive exceptional player status to become draft eligible for the CHL. Not sure if there were more since then. You are correct in the age department though. You can have an over ager at 20 playing a 15 yr old.

    • CUP 2014-15

      I am not sure of the rule but Jason Spezza played in the playoffs for Grand Rapids in 01,02 and then with Bingo in 02, 03. He was born in June of 83. So he was 18 when he appeared in 02 and 19 the following year. Not sure if this rule has changed or why.

      • Millennium

        Spezza played 4 seasons in the OHL up until the end of 01-02 and joined Bingo for the playoffs that season. Once a player has played 4 seasons in the CHL, they can move up regardless of being under 20 years old.

        • CUP 2014-15

          Got ya, so do you know if there is a min. of games played to qualify as a season as Lazar played 6 in 2010-11 and then three more seasons leading up to the end of this year.

          • Millennium

            I don’t know personally, and I’m with you in wanting to know, because it will determine Lazar’s eligibility for the AHL next season.

          • CUP 2014-15

            It would be a wasted development year for him if he had to return to junior.

  • WaitingSince92

    “Just Win”
    “Please Win”
    “Gotta Win”

    Damn, do I ever share that sense of despair, Chirp.

    How about this for next game’s title:
    “FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, CAN WE JUST WIN ONE F#@%ING GAME!?!?!?”
    Or perhaps:
    “I asked nicely, don’t make me beg…”

  • Cicero

    [sung to the tune of Cotton-eyed Joe]

    If it hadn’t been for pharmacide Euge
    Our win total now would be quite huge
    Loosen your purse-strings, why be a Scrooge?
    Where did your money go pharmacide Euge?

    He came to town like a knight on a horse
    He rode through the press so hopeful of course
    His cash was his tool but his wallet was plucked
    And we can’t do much cause we’re budgetarily frugalled

    He brought the cap floor wherever he went
    The hearts of the fans was to hell broken sent
    He let Alfie run away to the other white-and-rouge
    Why not give a little get a little pharmcide Euge!

    • WaitingSince92

      Full marks for “frugalled”, but was expecting something about the divorce, or course.

      • sprucesens

        i think it was still gonna start with an F

  • senskarlsson57

    This is completely random, but I saw Bryan Murray shopping around at around noon yesterday at Carlingwood mall lol. Funny part is he was just walking out of the bank inside(increased budget?!). I didn’t bother stopping him, because he’s probably not in the mood to talk sens after that shitty weekend and all, but yeah…Just thought I’d throw this out there.

    • aegiszx

      You know what would be funny is if Bryan was paying the players salaries out of his own pocket LOL

  • sprucesens

    haha, shout out to cotten eyed joe already!

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    Glad to see our #1 line start!

  • Sandy

    I guess Hoffman has made the team? What a shot..

    • Millennium

      He’s looked so good without getting any points the first bunch of games, it seems like a matter of time before the points catch up.

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    SWEET A PP…ohh wait

  • Millennium

    Ouch….reverse Karma

    • Sandy

      Of all the freakin’ players to give a breakaway to… Nash.. Stop putting forwards on the back end on the PP.. especially a rookie..

      • Millennium

        Well to be fair, he had just scored from there like a minute earlier. It was just a bad bouncing puck that he handled poorly. The power play set up looked OK actually.

        • Jacques

          Exactly!

  • karlssens

    The line strikes again

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    Wow ZIBBY

  • Kumar

    Amazing goal by Zibanejaad. I hope our PP run with Zibanejaad, EK, Spezza, Hemsky and MacArthur

  • karlssens

    Zibby us flying out there

  • aegiszx

    A lot of teams could help us out tonight! Hopefully the right teams win tonight.
    BOS > NJR
    CAR > CBJ
    CHI > PHI
    TOR > DET (Ugh)

    We shall see…

  • Jacques

    Ceci is Going to be a player and a half!

  • Jacques

    Ryan just doesn’t seem to be in the game! If he’s hurt Stone please.

  • CUP 2014-15

    Karl needs to be better and Robin needs to have that

  • Jacques

    Nothing elegant about Lehner’s style

    • H POTTER

      Two goals he should’ve had IMO

  • Jacques

    Hoffman can really shoot the puck, damn!

  • Cicero

    Not giving a damn sure makes our Sens a lot more fun to watch! :D

    • Cicero

      I mean…what’s the worst that could happen — the worst choke in hockey history?? Oh, got the t-shirt already.

  • Millennium

    Lehner’s gotta cover the puck better. That’s half a dozen times he’s nearly shit the bed on a save

  • Jacques

    Ok Hoffman time for another goal!

  • karlssens

    That’s why we shouldn’t have signed him

  • H POTTER

    I so much hate this #4 idiot. Sit him da fuk down for the rest of the season

  • Jacques

    Awesome play from our leadership group! 2 more years of Phillips, ouch!

  • H POTTER

    Sorry MF…can’t stand him no mo

  • FistsofNeil25

    2 more years of that? Yikes!

  • Jacques

    Some guys don’t move their feet!

    • FistsofNeil25

      and you want to see Stone. A guy who can’t move his feet.

      • Jacques

        He’s gotten a lot better and he plays on both sides of the sheet, watch an AHL game once and awhile!

        • FistsofNeil25

          AHL and NHL are different games my friend. He won’t be able to survive in the NHL with his skating.

  • Mitchell

    Would anywhere care if we didn’t sign Phillips? Really 2.5? For a 3rd pairing? His not Alfie he doesn’t have the same fan base by a landslide. Could of offered 5 dollars “he” didn’t want to go anywhere “he” cost us goals he doesn’t buy them

  • H POTTER

    I’m not sure if Ceci is not the one that gives this pairing stability…smh

  • CUP 2014-15

    wtf

  • H POTTER

    My lord what is Lehner doing for fak’s sake

  • FistsofNeil25

    Wow… who thinks Lehner is ready to be the starter?

    • aegiszx

      SSHH You’re going to upset the koolaid drinking fans!!!!

    • Jacques

      Like I’ve said the wait is for Driedger, Lehner doesn’t move well.

      • SensFanInMTL

        S’il vous plait, monsieur. Driedger is years from cracking a spot on an NHL roster.

        • Jacques

          2 years maybe 3, we’re in trouble! He”s our best goalie!

          • SensFanInMTL

            Brassard ain’t that bad either from those stats. Imagine in 5 years, Driedger & Brassard as our 1-2 punch. In Phillips’ face!

      • crzyman

        Holy crap Jack, all your comments boil down to “all our players not playing are better than the ones on the ice.”

        Broken. Record.

        • Jacques

          There is a serious problem cause at least 5/6 players could really be replaced by better ones man and I’m not kidding. But bringing up guys costs money.

          • crzyman

            Until those guys get brought up, fail to perform, and then we hear the same thing….

    • Sandy

      Something is off with Lehner. He was good at the beginning of the season and last year. Has he sat on the bench too much? His confidence is just shot..

      • FistsofNeil25

        Whatever it is, he looks awful. Young goalies need to play. If the organization didn’t plan on starting him more often this season then they should have left him in the AHL and kept Bishop for another year.

        This is exactly how to ruin a young goaltender’s confidence. He looks absolutely horrible out there.

    • Mark

      Lehner has not impressed me this year. Probably not playing well because he is not used often enough.

  • SensFanInMTL

    That’s like the second time I’ve seen Phillips be an idiot this season. He’s probably coughed it up even more than I’ve seen. Why was he signed an extension? Why does Murray will compelled to resign him when when he could’ve easily been a free man at the end of the season? Why does Murray feel like he’s forced to sign him for? Just don’t fuckin do it. It’s really as simple as that. Just don’t fuckin resign him. For fuck’s sake on a fuckin stick. Why?

    • Jacques

      They don’t rebound after brutal mistakes like that! Why????

  • Millennium

    Hey look, Smith and Neil don’t know how to break out of the zone….color me surprised.

    • Jacques

      Hey lets just keep extending these guys! Woohoo

  • Senators Pundit

    There is not enough firepower in the league to compensate for our defence and goaltending.

  • CUP 2014-15

    LAWSON

  • H POTTER

    Bravo

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    Well I made it through almost two whole periods today

    • Jacques

      Haha! It’s painful to watch! Get the dynamite Bryan!

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Just got home from my midterm and we are getting smashed….It is officially over

  • Jacques

    How come I hear a fast lady singing??????

    • SensFanInMTL

      Because she’s not fat enough lmao.

  • Millennium

    Slumping player? Better play him against the Sens!

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    I am actually decently sad right now…pretty dissapointed

    • Jacques

      It has been like this all year unfortunately!

  • karlssens

    Just awful

  • Mark

    Wow, this team has no luck…..that and our D is crap.

  • Cicero

    Okay, I have crossed the river of denial. Finally.

  • sprucesens

    waste of time and money for the rest of the year. they obviously need the summer off to think long and hard about how to play hockey

  • Sandy

    The need a goaltender who can make some saves…

  • aegiszx

    Lehner never should have started all 3 games. I understand that he’s more experienced than Lawson, but ffs, he’s been shaky all year, his confidence is shot, and I sincerely hope he goes home during the summer and kicks back a few cold ones… or a kegger…

    • Jacques

      Lawson has more experience than Lehner does!

  • 4thStringGoalie

    Come on guys, its only a three goal lead. It should take them only 3.5 minutes to over come that……

  • Sandy

    They start playing well and the goaltending can’t make a save.

    Suck it up Anderson.. get in the net.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Since he isn’t at the bottom of the league in goalie stats…. Dropped the beach ball not trading him last year

  • SensFanInMTL

    This whole team needs a shake up. Management included.

  • karlssens

    For free: Phillips

  • karlssens

    Phillips giveaway unraveled the team. Guess Paul won’t like where they are at the end of the season after all..

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    If what I was told is true literally nobody can get up and excited to work… Everyone from the guy scrubbing the urinals to the girl pouring your beer to security to the 50-50 guys… To the managers to the players.

    It looks like a long downward spiral

    • crzyman

      You mean our beers will be poured with less and less enthusiasm?!?! The horror!!

  • Guest

    I like our forwards core with future prospects for next year minus Greening maybe add a vet forward but come damn shake up our defence please

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    I like our forwards core with future prospects for next year minus Greening maybe add a vet forward but damn shake up our defence please

  • Cicero

    Maybe the season is over but there is a lot of good from the past 30 games to take forward into next season. Not just problems.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Like what? That we are half way through the thirty?

  • KingKarlsson84 – RSU is pathet

    PLAYOFFS?! YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT PLAYOFFS? PLAYOFFS?! I JUST HOPE WE CAN WIN A GAME!!!!

  • CUP 2014-15

    I don’t understand everyone shitting on this team tonight. Lehner shit the bed and Phillips made a major screw up on the turn over. Outside of that they played a great game. I really love how this is somehow the fault of the defenseman. Outside of that pass by CP, the rest has been solid, if not it would be 15-2 with this Goaltending.

    • SensFanInMTL

      Because it’s not just one game that Phillips made a turnover. It’s not one game that Lehner’s shitting the bed. This is a constant struggle since the beginning. And we don’t even have a first round pick this year.

      • CUP 2014-15

        Your correct about this year but Bobby was expensive so screw the 1st.

    • Jacques

      Cup, I love ya but it’s like Groundhog Day over and over again! Oh yeah they work in the offensive zone but in their own end there are too many tourists!

  • Kumar

    Our defense is brutal. Lehner is awful. Karlsson is bad in defensive end. Phillips tons of experience to dish an awful pass. Lehner looked bad 2 of the 4 goals.

  • karlssens

    Get ready to see 14,000 fans the rest of the season. Lehner and Phillips blew this one for us. Whyyyy did we have to sign him.

    • SensFanInMTL

      Please take the time to scroll through my post 11 minutes ago.

  • SlickRick

    I figured it out Chirp…cotton eye Joe won’t help. Instead, don’t put the word ‘Win’ in your game day post. Try the opposite, like ‘can’t lose’.

  • Kielbasa

    This team is AMAZING!

    Phillips needs to sit the rest of the season. Go be a bus boy at the Big Rig instead. At least there you might have a clue on how to do your one job properly. Way to kill the little energy this team had.

    This losing culture around the team is going to cause way more damage than missing the playoffs. Why would players like Ryan or Hemsky even dream of resigning here?

    • Jacques

      He’d probably break a lot of glasses!

  • aegiszx

    Bryan: “Eugene, it’s time to call it a season.”
    Eugene: “I don’t want to hear it Bryan. Not until hell freezes over.”
    Bryan: “Hell did freeze over, and we had an epic collapse with 3 minutes left.”
    Eugene: “Bryan, every team goes through struggles right? We’ve got to stick by this team.”
    Bryan: “Eugene, I don’t think you hear me. We gave up 4 goals in a single period again.”
    Eugene: “Bryan, don’t you worry, it’ll all pass over soon. We’ve got plenty of time left.”
    Bryan: “Eugene, the season ends next week.”
    Eugene: “And? When’s next season start?”
    Bryan: “I’m leaving Eugene. I’m taking the kids Kyle, Eric, Robin, and Mika with me to Buffalo.”

    • Jacques

      Shuffling off to Buffalo!

    • Kumar

      fantastic

    • Jacques

      Eugene: well Bryan for the stupid signing of Phillips, I’ve traded you to Buffalo for your nephew! Ciao gramps!

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    I really could care less about our first round pick but this team has serious defensive issues that need to be addressed. We need defense. No

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      NOW

      • Jacques

        Watching Cowen try to skate is like Bambi on a frozen Pond!

  • FistsofNeil25

    So there’s been reports that Bobby has been playing through an injury that will require offseason surgery. If this is in fact true, after this loss tonight the Sens should just shut him down for the season and get him into surgery. There’s no point in having him play through pain without any remaining hope of making the playoffs.

  • Mark

    I’ve always liked Phillips and what he’s meant to this organization, but resigning him was a mistake. He can’t handle the minutes he’s playing and his game has fallen off so sharply.

  • SensFanInMTL

    To be fair, everyone sucks this year. MacLean constantly shuffles the lines too many times for our guys to have little or no time to develop chemistry. We cannot defend our goalies. Our goalies struggle on a somewhat constant basis. Ryan looks disinterested and will most likely be dealt for at next year’s deadline. The 2 moronic goons behind MacLean need to be relieved of their duties. And lastly, our owner refuses to spend because of his cheapskateness (yes it’s a new word now).

    Please find me a way to dig us out of here.

    • Sandy

      Ryan looks like he is hurting. On one play I saw him wince pretty bad… IF and when the season is done.. get his surgery early.

  • karlssens

    By all accounts, Cowen has been solid lately.

  • Mitchell

    Phillips utterly useless. And I was a bus boy once in my life. Let him start at reception asst. before he decides to do some dishes. I’m sorry but I’ve been shitting on this guy for the past 6 years.. He has proven nothing and is doing nothing for the team by staying. Alfie was a lose, Phillips is just a roster spot. Not to mention costly cap wise and on the ice

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Lawson

  • Shibal

    I bet Maclean had majority of the influence in resigning Phillips; Maclean just loves this former first overall pick. Sigh! The bad luck the sens ever had with drafting first overall picks with Daigle, Berard and Phillips.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Nice shot MIlo. **small victories**

  • ATFIELD

    there’s 1

  • Mark

    I hate Maclean. Not only do I question his decisions, I can’t stand him as a person. Lol. His own players seems annoyed by him too.

    • Shibal

      I find his recycled post-game answers annoying.

    • Sandy

      Were you saying that last year?

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    nice play cowen but come on lmao. props on the rush

  • ATFIELD

    CHRIS PHILLIPS

  • FistsofNeil25

    Phillips with another giveaway. 2 more years! 2 more years!

  • Jacques

    Holy crap! Phillips!

  • Millennium

    Christ Philips, just sit down already. You’re terrible.

  • SensFanInMTL

    Phillips again. Is this some sort of a joke? This is getting way out of hand.

    • Jacques

      Why did the Phillips not cross the road, cuz Sens fans were lined up to RUN him over!

      • SensFanInMTL

        esti lol

      • FistsofNeil25

        haha that was good

  • karlssens

    Time to retire Phillips..

    • FistsofNeil25

      2 more years! 2 more years!

      • SenaTHOR

        2.5 per

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Atta boy Phillips..I did agree with the signing but the last week you have pissed me off

  • karlssens

    Phillips is literally unbelievably Terrible

  • SensFanInMTL

    Gotta hand it to Phillips. He plays it smart. Let me do some charity work and for as long as I’m bad on the ice, I will never get booed out of town. Fuckin mothafuckin genius that Chris Phillips.

  • aegiszx

    Can’t tell if it was the beer that has my stomach upset or Phillips! Either way, I actually want to vomit right now.

  • ATFIELD

    LOL

  • Jason

    Chris “pylon” Phillips. fuck

  • FistsofNeil25

    7-3… it’s one thing to lose the game. It’s another to completely humiliate yourselves.

  • SensFanInMTL

    So wake me up when it’s all over. When Phillips is wiser and much older.

  • Mitchell

    Wait….? Phillips is mentoring are prospects?! NOOOOOOO!

    • Jacques

      Haha, classic!

  • SensFanInMTL

    Chirp please help this team out. Only you can do so. Make it stop.

  • Millennium

    “Cowen falls down” gee, that doesn’t sound familiar…

    • Jacques

      Like I said Bambi!

  • FistsofNeil25

    Man, I’m so happy that we have such strong leadership on this team.

  • KingKarlsson84 – RSU is pathet

    Imagine if they didn’t let in 7 goals, they scored 4! It couldn’t be any more clear how bad the defense is…

  • Jacques

    Bobby where have you been?

  • Sandy

    I’m pretty sure most of the players are pretty frustrated that they can’t get a save and the D keeps screwing up..

  • Jason

    I am sooooooo glad I didn’t go to the game tonight. I would have left at the end of the second and been pissed off for the 2hr drive home.

  • aegiszx

    Hemsky: “Mr.Melnyk I thought you said your team was a contender in the East.”
    Eugene: “Ales, make no mistake about it, we are without a doubt a contender… for the first overall pick.”
    Bryan: “Eugene, we don’t have a first round pick this year.”

  • 4thStringGoalie

    Lundquit looks rattled….if we get one more who knows

  • Jacques

    Phillips still out there working on his game, another 1000 games and he should get it figured out!

  • Millennium

    This is the kind of performance after which Forwards and Defence get in fights in practice.

    Oh wait.

  • 4thStringGoalie

    Cotton eye joe

  • KingKarlsson84 – RSU is pathet
  • Colin

    Phillips has bee especially awful, but this is a team effort. The goaltending, defence and forwards have all contributed to tonight’s performance.

  • Andrews theory

    Clearly not the only problem but when your longest serving team member and most senior defenseman consistently costs you a couple goals every game and you have a guy like Wiercoch sitting in the stands repeatedly it really makes me wonder if the management has completely forgotten that finishing last has 0 benefit when you’ve already traded your first rounder

    • FistsofNeil25

      Why couldn’t we have just traded him to Boston for Christ sake.

      • Jacques

        They we’re offering Spooner and a pick, Murray Wakey Wakey!

        • FistsofNeil25

          That was the asking price. Not what they were offering lol Chiarelli isn’t stupid man

          • Andrews theory

            I would have lent him to the same team we lent Corvo if it meant getting him off the blue line.

          • Jacques

            Murray was dreaming then!

  • FistsofNeil25

    It makes me so sad that we’re significantly worse than the Leafs and Habs this year. I actually have nothing left to say to my buddies who cheer for T.O. and MTL. Absolutely nothing. It’s going to be even more painful turning on the tv every night this spring watching those two teams play hockey and not my team.

    • Sandy

      Your buddies have very short memories. It was just a few short seasons ago, both of those teams were going through the same thing..

      • FistsofNeil25

        but it’s all about the present

        • Sandy

          Well Montreal will be a quick out in the playoffs and depending on the opponent the Leafs may not be far behind that.
          Of the two teams.. I think the Leafs are more apt to get through round 1.

          • Jacques

            Montreal is full of shit though so you never know, hate them!

          • SensFanInMTL

            Do you happen to reside there though? You know? Juste a cause de votre nom?

  • Mark

    Bobby “invisible” Ryan scores again when it doesn’t matter.

  • Jacques

    Seven minutes left down by three lets get 14-15-25 out there

  • FistsofNeil25

    Man I love DJ ZBad.

  • Mark

    Zbad and Hoffman!!!

  • SensFanInMTL

    Stuntman Stu: “From Vernon, British Columbia, number 27, numero 27….. CURTICEEE……. LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZARRRRRRRR.”

    • Jacques

      We’ll have to dream of that for now!

      • Jacques

        Will be funny seeing a guy with number 27 back checking(Kovalev)!

    • 4thStringGoalie

      Not a chance. He plays most of the year in bingo. Why rush him? We have our first pick next year…..

      • SensFanInMTL

        He will definitely get the 9 game try out. Heard and read nothing but absolutely beauty things about him. Seems to be the only positive news our team can get at the moment.

        • 4thStringGoalie

          There isnt the 9 game thing next year. He will be a pro in ottawa or bingo. He isnt going back to junior.

          • SensFanInMTL

            Wait, what? It was changed?

          • 4thStringGoalie

            No change. The 9 game thing would have been this year, draft year when they are junior eligible. He is a year older, his junior career is over unless he went back as an overager. Sort of like Ceci this year, he turned pro

          • Millennium

            No, he isn’t old enough for the AHL. He will be in the WHL or the NHL.

          • SensFanInMTL

            I see what you mean. 9 games is only the first year. Fuck. I guess he will lace up for the 2015-2016 season. Shit outta luck for me. Guess I’m headed out west for work then I’ll come back to eastern Canada and watch him play.

        • Shibal

          David Rundblad was the most positive thing to come out in the 2011 season. He was billed as being better than Karlsson by the Sens scouting staff at the time.

          Don’t put too much expectation on Lazar, he was pretty invisible during the preseason. I think he should play another year of junior before trying to be the next hero for this franchise.

          • FistsofNeil25

            He was invisible during the preseason because he got injured in rookie camp and was still recovering during training camp. I believe he only played in the Sens final pre-season game.

      • FistsofNeil25

        He’s not eligible for the AHL. It’s either NHL or WHL for him.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Well it was fun watching Hemsky in a Sens uni while it lasted.

  • Millennium

    Pull the goalie…puts on Neil, seriously WTF Maclean

    • Mark

      Seriously. I was thinking the same thing.

  • romeo&julian

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSXwzlXEipc
    replace redskins with sens and this is how I feel after tonights game

  • Andrews theory

    I said it a while back but we honestly have the worst on ice leadership group in the entire league.

    Love Spezza for his offense but when I think 200 foot game, he’s not top of my list

    Phillips costs 1-2 goals every single game

    Neil let me lead by taking a stupid penalty in the offensive zone right after we’ve gotten back within range on a regular basis

    • Jacques

      I agree they have To go!

  • ATFIELD

    U’d think us putting in 4 Would be automatic Win vs. Rangers, but no we give up a 8 spot.

  • Jacques

    ROCK bottom!

  • Jacques

    Rock Bottom!

    • FistsofNeil25

      I guess it was worth saying twice?

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    cant wait for this interestring off season

  • Sandy

    Should of kept Bishop… You can’t teach huge… He could not have been any worse.

    • SensFanInMTL

      Yeah we’re definitely going to be regretting that choice for years to come. I’d like move forward from that scenario before my hair gets more gray.

    • LeafsSux

      I said the same thing two games ago and was ripped into.. So tread lightly Sandy ;)

  • FistsofNeil25

    SELL THE TEAM MELNYK YOU JERK!

    • Sandy

      Do you think he would? He’s going to lose about 3M by not having 2 playoff games… but he saved 1.5M by not giving $$$ to Alfie..

  • romeo&julian

    WHY HAVENT THE PLAYERS TURNED IN THEIR KEYCARDS!!!!!!!!

  • FistsofNeil25

    That loss is on Phillips and Lehner. The team was playing pretty damn well until these two shit the bed. They came out flying tonight and still found a way to lose all momentum.

    • 4thStringGoalie

      It was their turn tonight. A lot of their teamates have done the same this year. What baffles me is you can excuse a mistake from a player but they have about half a dozen players that make mistake after mistakr

  • SensFanInMTL

    EVERYONE ON SENSCHIRP: Let’s all rally together, meet up in front of parliament, put all of our life savings together and buy the team! It’s gonna take at least 40 of us so let’s all meet up before tomorrow morning.

    • Mitchell

      I’m in

    • Cicero

      If the members of this board owned the team, there’d be no players left on the bench.

      • Sandy

        True… I’m really scared. I’m going to the game on Thursday and travelling to Florida for 2 games starting Monday… I guess the only good part of that is our husbands are staying home..

        • Cicero

          Have fun!

    • Sensturion

      I’d love to be one of the 40 of us that has 5 million stached away somewhere!

  • Sandy

    Question is.. If Andy is not ready for Thursday.. who goes in net?

    • Sensturion

      A cardboard cut out? Could probably make more saves than anyone else at this point.

    • 4thStringGoalie

      Hammond?

  • FistsofNeil25

    Danny Alfie with the game winner over the Leafs….oyyyyy

    • Sandy

      Gee.. thanks for that. Really finishes off a great night….

      • FistsofNeil25

        It’s only appropriate that Alfie scores the game winner for Detroit on the same night that the Sens season was put to rest. This entire mess of a season started with Melnyk slapping Alfie in the face causing him to walk away.

        • romeo&julian

          yeah cause alfredsson is a goalie or a defenseman

          • FistsofNeil25

            He was the heart and soul of a team that no longer has any. A true leader.

          • SensFanInMTL

            Who is R & J? Late minute troll? Alfie was a true leader indeed. I think he could’ve been the difference of making this team a contender. Not sure if we’d be able to have Hemsky & Ryan. Maybe.

          • Colin

            I blame both sides, Melnyk likely screwed things up with his el-cheapo offers, but Alfie had already checked out during the playoffs with Pitt.

          • Sandy

            That’s why I hope Detroit misses the playoffs…

          • FistsofNeil25

            You think because he answered a question truthfully during the heat of the moment that he checked out on the team? Please. Alfie battled hard until his very last shift.

            He would have remained a Senator if Melnyk and Murray had followed through the what they had discussed the previous summer.

          • Colin

            Yes. And picking up the puck after his last home game before going to Pitt was rather strange too.

          • FistsofNeil25

            Even so, I can’t blame him for wanting to leave this circus. Melnyk is running this team into the ground. He’s put a dark cloud over the organization with his act. It must be hard for everyone in the organization to come to work when they don’t respect their boss.

          • SensFanInMTL

            Are you sure it was a $ issue? If he thought the Sens were a contender, he would’ve resigned. Unless he’s bullshitting and would’ve resigned for the $ he was looking for.

        • John Q. Spartan

          Alfredsson is a turncoat, fuck him.

  • Sandy

    So I guess the fat lady is singing loudly about now? Not mathematically eliminated yet… but they are not coming back 9 pts out of the playoffs…

    Just play the season out.. then we will see the true character of the players.. Do they mail it in… or do they play for pride..

    • romeo&julian

      HAHAHA these clowns cant win one game..im done..technically I was done after they lost both games to those shit alberta teams last week but maintained hope but after tonight its over…so depressing, what a lame duck team this is gonna be the next 14 games. no draft pick to get excited about, no prospects gonna be called up to get a look at…all we have to look forward to is how long ryans gonna be out and ineffective with what is obvious is a hernia

      • Sandy

        To bad these last 4 games didn’t happen before the trade deadline and the Sens would have been out.. Murray might have picked up a first round pick for someone…

        • FistsofNeil25

          Who could we have realistically traded that is worth a first rounder? None of the guys we’d be interested in trading have that kind of value.

  • Sensturion
  • 4thStringGoalie

    Will turris and macarther play for canada at the worlds?

    • Sensturion

      Guys! I found a 4th string goalie! PUT HIM IN THE NET!

  • SensFanInMTL

    Everyone tune in to TSN radio fellas.

    • Colin

      Not a chance. The nutbars will be calling in with a vengeance tonight.

      • SensFanInMTL

        That is precisely why lol! Naw man it’s nothing like it, just the usual postgame stuff.

        • Colin

          Lol! Yea. I guess the fanbase is getting used to this kind of performance.

  • Sandy

    Gee… thanks for this Duthie…

    @tsnjamesduthie: The way Ottawa’s season has gone, Anaheim will win the draft lottery and pick 1st overall with the pick the Senators traded them.

    • SensFanInMTL

      He’s a big piece of shit. Disgrace that he hails from your city. I guess working and most likely living in Toronto does that to you.

      • FistsofNeil25

        What? Duthie is a Sens fan bud. The guy isn’t a piece of shit at all. What was wrong with his tweet? He’s just saying that with our luck the Ducks will win the lottery with our pick.

        • Sandy

          I love Duthie… But yeah… I had no problem with what he said.. it probably will come true.

        • SensFanInMTL

          He’s pointing out the obvious, bud. We know we suck this year. We don’t need salt into the damn wound. Anyhow, imagine if Anaheim won the Cup and we win the next 2 out of 13. Anaheim sits in 4th place and won the lottery and selected 1st overall. You have any idea what kind of heat we will for take that? For the next decade. Man that scares the fuck outta me.

          • FistsofNeil25

            That would be terrible but it’s a very real possibility.

          • SensFanInMTL

            Literally have their cake… and fuckin eat it too. It’s. I can’t handle that.

          • Sandy

            Anaheim is a good team.. but I don’t know if they win the Cup.
            St Louis is really good and they have a stud in net..

          • FistsofNeil25

            Still think Chicago is the team to beat come playoff time. They have the skill and experience to get it done again. Especially with Johnny Toews leading the way.

  • FistsofNeil25

    oh man! just watched the highlights of the game tonight. Did anyone else see the look Ceci gave Phillips after the Rangers scored off his second giveaway? Ceci was disgusted. Awesome stuff.

    • KingKarlsson84 – RSU is pathet

      Yeah but let’s keep him for his “leadership abilities”….lol

    • Zelle

      I’m worried that our good young guys won’t want to stay in a club when veteran players make plays like that.

  • Sandy

    There were games this season, that this team looked really good..2 wins against Bos & Det… win against St Louis… The Heritage Classic.. Why are they so bad most nights..

    • Zelle

      Been wondering that myself. It’s not like Bruins and StLouis was playing badly either; Sens were just playing amazing. Where is that team? Why don’t they show up every night? My Leafs fan coworker actually feels sad for me and she hates the Sens.

  • romeo&julian

    pascal lehner needs to get the fuck out of the crease….he looks shakier than an ECHL project goalie

    • Sandy

      Do you think Lalime is still in shape?

      • romeo&julian

        no….but maybe jani hurme or martin prusek are

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    People need to be fired tommorow

  • Cicero
    • Sandy

      First the Owner.

  • Millennium

    Something major needs to happen to this team before anything will change. Whether its an ownership change, a coaching change, a management change, a leadership change, or a trade of core players, something has to change, or this will be the result for the next 3-5 years.

    There has to be a desire to win, and from the top down, there isn’t any sign of that.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Starts with the owner my man.

      • Millennium

        I’d tend to agree. Unfortunately no one has any leverage to make that happen except him. Depressing.

    • romeo&julian

      who wasn’t working? they scored 4 goals..actually were dominating the play until those 4 cheapo goals went in before paul macleans putrid fart managed to diffuse in behind the players bench

      • Millennium

        Well where to begin? Ownerships’ money problems? Questionable coaching problems? Terrible on ice play from the entire D Core and both goalies this season? Anemic offense (tonight not withstanding)? No sign of a proper system on the ice? No heart? No Leadership? No will to win?

        You won’t fix them all, but you can fix a few, and they can have ripple effects that help the others. Find an owner that can spend, and a coach that can coach, and you can work with the rest of it on the fly.

        • SensFanInMTL

          Spot on. Tu l’as en direct.

  • romeo&julian

    first time since 1996 the leafs will make the playoffs while the sens wont

    • Sandy

      Toronto is only 5 pts up on 9th… which is Detroit.. and Det has 2 games in hand… The Leafs have come back to the pack… Would be delicious if they fell out..

      • romeo&julian

        how Detroit keeps winning with that ahl roster is beyond me

        • Millennium

          His name is Mike Babcock

        • Sandy

          The Sens did it last year…
          The young guys just play and play hard..

  • 4thStringGoalie

    On the radio they said the sens need to win 12 of 14….they also speculate that any of the four goalies could start next game….

    • FistsofNeil25

      If Andy isn’t ready to play they absolutely need to go back to Lehner next game. Yes he has more holes than swiss cheese these days but the organization has to show they still have confidence in him. He’s got to battle through it.

      • Sandy

        It’s their own fault for letting him stagnate on the bench…

        • FistsofNeil25

          I agree. They’ve completely mis-handled him. It’s becoming clear that he should have been playing every night in Binghamton this year instead of rotting on the bench in Ottawa.

    • Sandy

      Win 12 of 14? No way they can do that..

      The only thing left is to cheer for a Leafs collapse to 9th.,.

  • Pugnacious Serf

    That game made my eyes sad. Classic Big Rig.

  • Sandy

    So do they do another re-tool and fail for McDavid?

    • Colin

      No re-tool required! Just go status-quo and the job will be done.

    • SensFanInMTL

      Wouldn’t mind that. Let’s start the trend a la “Fail For Nail.”

      “Not winnin’ for MacKinnon” would’ve been ideal if he didn’t get drafted last year. Hmmm….

      McDavid is a tough one, m’am.

      • Millennium

        Cave in for McDavid?
        Didn’t save it for McDavid?
        Went and Hid for McDavid?

        • SensFanInMTL

          I lol’d. Good on ya for the effort.

          No honor to grab Connor?

  • karlssens

    I honestly think we are taking this pretty well.. I think we all saw it coming for a while. Phillips though.. Holy fak.

    • SensFanInMTL

      You are saying everything I am thinking, thus saving time for me to do so. Here. Have a first rounder.

  • karlssens

    I would be completely happy with rebuild 2.0.. Offload Phillips, spezza, Michalek. But we all know Murray is going to try to patch this team together to try to win a cup.

  • FistsofNeil25

    **Turns on Xbox – blows up Sens on Be-a-GM mode**

    • SensChirp

      Walk us through it. Might be some useful notes for the off season.

      • SensFanInMTL

        There you are! Save us Chirp. Do it now! Please make this end.

      • FistsofNeil25

        I don’t even know where to start :(

    • romeo&julian

      set the popcorn prices real high to keep fans away

    • zBernatchez

      I actually legitimately did this after the lehners turd wobbler from the point lol

  • romeo&julian

    “losing makes me elated, we’re gonna draft mcdavid”……cheque please

  • Phoenix

    In the past couple of years the coach was changed, vets moved, and the loss of experience. So whats next, the GM or the owner. Well a shoe string budget and a meddling owner doesn’t make for a successfully run business. I said it last year but lehner should have stayed in the Ahl for another year or so. If the team couldn’t rebound after the weekend then it lights out. Now its time to play for contracts next year. Here’s to seeing what some of the kids can do.

    • romeo&julian

      completely agree….give us a reason to tune into the rest of the games this season. and give the kids top line minutes, use this time for experimentation with line combinations. anything to no go through all this juggling next season for the first 30gms trying to find linemate for guys

      • Sandy

        If Ryan needs surgery.. have it now, so he doesn’t spend all summer rehabbing..

  • karlssens

    Stay jaded for mcdavid

    • SensFanInMTL

      this one wins! Better than “no honor to land Connor!’

      • romeo&julian

        haha I liked that one

        • SensFanInMTL

          Oh yes.

    • Pasalacqua

      Don’t save it for McDavid?

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    So seriously… How do you get rid of an owner… Pray for criminal charges of some sort??

    • romeo&julian

      nah, then he’ll just pass ownership over to a sibling or cousin or nephew kinda what eddie DeBartolo jr did

    • Jerry Sandwich

      start an online petition – I’ll sign

  • Sandy

    On Lawson:

    He came up lame so we thought we better not push him.

    So Lawson is hurt.. again.. I believe he’s been out quite a bit this season.. If Andy isn’t ready, it’s Lehner & Hammond… I would assume..

    • SensFanInMTL

      Emergency call ups scare me. Remember that technician that suited up for Tim’s Sabres lol?

      • Sandy

        Well there’s always Matthew Spezza, right?

        • SensFanInMTL

          Jason is scapegoatish as it is. I love Jason. But we don’t need both brothers getting crapped on by the fans. Just no.

      • H POTTER

        Lol
        Who knows we might get lucky with a no name and win ALL remaining games..lololol

  • SensFanInMTL

    Listen to Phillips on TSN Ottawa. He sounds depressed. Instead of the same “terrible mistakes” and “not happy with tonight’s performance” game in and game out, how about you think what you will do before doing it?

    • romeo&julian

      poor phillips…there will be no dicksucks for him tonight

    • SENSsmile

      I’m sure Phillips didn’t just say: “This is very disappointing.” That’s his usual mantra…

    • Conor_smythe

      He sounds depressed??

      fuck him… he just got gifted an extension that he didn’t deserve

      if I hear 1 negative thing out of that guy im gonna go shit on the floor of his restaurant

  • SensFanInMTL

    With the trade deadline over with, does that mean we can send someone down without being picked up off waivers?

    • romeo&julian

      send down condra and greening and hope to baby jesus some dumb gm puts in a claim for either/or

      • SensFanInMTL

        my thoughts exactly. Bring up Pageau & Stone. Set.

  • romeo&julian

    in a way this is really all craig andersons fault when you think about it. was terrible to start the season, then when team needs him the most he suffers his typical annual phantom injury (ie: 2012 with the hotdogs)

    • Conor_smythe

      Terrible to start the season???

      you mean, back when the team was allowing 45-70 shots PER GAME??

      yaaa, that was all andy’s fault

      Shit man, I blame the coach more than Anderson

      but really.. its our defence

  • WaitingSince92

    I have a new team logo.

    • SensFanInMTL

      lmao

    • s3nsfan

      call me simple but I’m tired, I am completely missing the joke here. Explain it to me please lol

      • Dirk-Diggler

        turnovers

        • s3nsfan

          BAHAHA, I thought it was a danish, i was like hmmm, danish, sens, don’t get it lmao

      • WaitingSince92

        It’s a turnover…

  • Zelle

    3PM puck drop on Saturday. I’m thinking I’ll enjoy the early afternoon starts from now on. 7PM is too late to start drinking as a Sens fan right now.

  • Dmare085

    In the offseason lets trade Spezza, Cowen and a 1st for John Tavares. Fair?

    • Sandy

      Cowen has been better. He still has a long way to go.
      He was hindered by his hip surgery for most of the season.
      I would give him another year minimum to show what he has…

      • SenaTHOR

        Cowen wasn’t the issue tonight. He has been playing better.

        • Don Ciccio

          That pass that he gave Hoffman on the 2 on 0 was not a pass that an NHL level player makes….His defensive game has been better but his hands are dreadful.

      • Dmare085

        Fair point, I can see Tavares wanting out of New York, his best buddy got dealt and the team is clearly going nowhere. We should make an offer, there GM has a reputation for making stupid trades. Let’s fleece em for Johnny T.

      • Dmare085

        but the potential to get a Tavares comes once in a lifetime. Never know Snow did trade Moulson for peanuts. Maybe Johnny is angry.

    • NOBODY can play with Spezza

      Spezza would NEVER wave his NTC to go to Brooklyn

  • sprucesens

    HAHAHA 8-4???? good god. glad i stopped watching after lehner’s shit goal against. This team has just fallen apart at the seams. What a shit show.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Didn’t watch the game tonight. Felt like the team and I needed a little bit of space after Colorado. I’m sort of glad I did, but feel for the soles who stuck through this entire game. You guys definitely deserve something for doing that.

    All I’ll say is there is no use in looking for players to blame at this point. The entire team basically needs to start from the beginning to remember that they’re not this bad. I do get the sense that our goalies are really hurting the most from this year (and a lot of players have to be feeling pretty low, so that’s saying something). Let’s face it, team defense was a huge problem from the start of the year. That’s probably effected the goalies’ confidence. At the very least we’re seeing mental fatigue catching up to them. We’re seeing it with Lehner now. And, we saw it with Anderson earlier too, where he’d just look frustrated about what was happening. Our goal-tending will be fine with these too!

    I think the team is probably counting the days until they get to summer at this point. Who wouldn’t need a step back from this? Cheer up, it can’t get any worse next year!

    • Zelle

      Agreed. Mental fitness is extremely important in competitive sports. Competitive anything, really. You need to KNOW you will win, every time. As soon as you start thinking otherwise your entire performance deflates.

  • karlssens

    For the record, greening had his best game of the season last night. Condra as well. If both of these guys play like that every game I will be thrilled!

    • Dirk-Diggler

      I didn’t like Greening last night actually… Either Condra…
      There was a point in the 2nd (just before Rangers scored their 2nd I think) where Greening had the puck along the wall and Karlsson was wide open for a pass about 10 feet away for a blast from the point and Greening didn’t pass it to him but turned it over and Karlsson put his right hand up in a ‘huh’ moment looking at Greening.

    • John Q. Spartan

      I thought Greening looked better with the puck last night, than he has all season long.

  • s3nsfan

    Thanks to chirp for sending me the link to the @tsn_wally interview on the team. I think the best thing he said was “the worst thing to happen to this team was last season”. I think he’s completely right. This team over achieved last year and when this season started with Bobby Ryan and MacArthur joining expectations were through the roof. Now before I get trampled, they haven’t had a good season.
    Cowen is going nowhere the coaching and management staff like what they have in him. They want him to learn. The only way to get better at ANYTHING in life is to get practise / reps and make mistakes in order to learn from them. He missed camp, he had hip surgery last year. If he trains hard next year and makes camp I’m sure he’ll have a better year.
    I think part of the problem is the (sorry for stating the already stated / obvious point) goalies haven’t bailed us out like they did last year so gaffs and mistakes and giveaways are way more glaring because more often than not they are ending up in our net.
    I think the shock of Alfie and a new leader is also affecting this team and let’s be honest. As great a player as Jason Spezza is, he is not a go go go, hard all the time player and it could be rubbing off.

    All that being said, i don’t care if they lose the remaining 14 games, just play your god damned hearts out and at least make an effort to finish the season with a bang.

    Definitely going to be an interesting summer. Those 37 wins Bishop has right now would like nice on the Ottawa standings page.

    • BeJamin

      Bishop has those wins because the team in front of him is playing better… I honestly don’t think he’s anything special.

    • Zelle

      “All that being said, i don’t care if they lose the remaining 14 games,
      just play your god damned hearts out and at least make an effort to
      finish the season with a bang.”

      We have been waiting for them to do that all season.

  • PraiseAlfie11

    And that is why you don’t get rid of anderson.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Why so we can watch his annual playoff push injury?

      This is another example of why he should have been moved instead of bishop

      • bluebuyyoo

        Dryden and Tretiak in their prime couldn’t save this team from themselves this year.

      • boom

        Exactly. I was just talking about that. You can’t depend on him.

      • PraiseAlfie11

        Hindsight being 20/20, you are correct.

      • CrazyFish

        It’s only one season for Bishop, next year he might come back down to earth and only have an OK season. Who knows right, mind you I would have rather seen them go with Lehner and Bishop but Anderson really isn’t a bad choice either.

  • BeJamin

    The only really good thing about such an embarrassing end to the season is that Murray and Melnyk will be forced to identify defense as a need in the off-season. It’s unavoidable. The forward group I think is fine for the most part. Hoffman looks like a real gem and he’s only going to get better. let Mika use his canon more often and he’s gonna pop 30 goals. That part of the team is good to go and will only get better as Lazar et. grow into roles on the Sens.
    Hopefully the team is willing to spend to bring in a quality veteran to help the defense. One solid top four guy would make a huge difference. The other great thing is I really want the fans to turn on Phillips. If they do, then we can get rid of him and the team will get better. Maybe Neil can finally be ousted as well. You can have Greening or Neil on the team next year but not both. How nice that sounds to me. Lots of takers will overpay a draft pick to have Neiler.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    It still hasnt kicked in that we are going to be missing the playoffs this season…I really like our forward group, we can def score goals but other then Karlsson and Methot and Ceci We need to work on your defence, Cowen needs to step up and play like the Cowen last year. I am still going to watch each game till the end, maybe we can play spoiler. Put weicioch, I really think he has a way better season then cowen, phillups and Gryba combined. Hold on sens fan it will be an interesting off season thats for sure.

    • Andrews theory

      Let’s take that a step further, you “went on record” or “marked your words” they’d be in the playoffs after their recent disastrous road trip out west.

      Said it before and I’ll say it again, this team mailed it in since half way through the oilers game, they knew the season was done.

      This offseason will likely be way less exciting than we are hoping for.

      FYI

  • Conor_smythe

    its amazing how many “we should have kept bishop” comments there are

    Last season, there was maybe 4 of us saying that, and everybody else said that it would be unfair to Lehner if we keep Bishop

    We all argued that Anderson was the wrong side of 30 and that a true rebuilding team would keep young talent (especially a team on a budget)

    I took a lottttt of shit for saying Bishop/Lehner would be a much healthier competition than Anderson/Lehner

    I guess I shouldn’t be suprised.. Ive been bashing phillips for 4 years now and you guys have finally just caught on

    for the record:

    dont trade spezza, dont trade cowen, promote richardson, fire cameron, wiercioch good, gryba bad, get rid of phillips by any means possible, dont play cotton eye joe or the fucking macarena

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      There was a few more than four…. But yes agreed on most points

    • MethotToMyMadness

      I was one of the few who would not have been upset keeping Bishop and Lehner, simply because last year Anderson would have got us a lot more on the market for a trade. And sure enough, it appears that way now.

      Bishop is having a Vezina type of season and is a a key component for Tampa. It’s a heavy blow, and I’m sure Management is looking back at the decision, considering the play of Anderson this year and wishing he made a different decision. But, you can’t blame him for sticking with Anderson either, he was very very good.

    • Doc

      What are next week’s lotto numbers?

      You can send me a private message. K, thanks.

    • SenaTHOR

      If PW was good he would be in. As said before if he could be dominant in his own zone he would be a real asset, buthe’s not. Its between him and Cowen/Phillips. Phillips is a lifer here as proved by his next contract. Cowen has played better since he got away from Karlsson(except two games).
      I believe that the VETS have the power on the team Not PMAC. Some of these guys should be sitting yet the only time they sit is when they get injured or fake an injury. I guess it is hard to sit a captain/Asst. Our top two leaders are minus”infinity” and the other guy is playing way too much. The LEADERSHIP IS A REAL ISSUE. I will speculate and say that the team probably thinks that the captains are a joke. One plays one way, one never plays his position and one is just an agitator with no particular skills who doesn’t seem too positive.

  • EK65

    Here are my offseason priorities for whatever they are worth:
    1. Re-sign Hemsky and Ryan.
    – The slump Ryan is enduring is temporary. He’s a great player and, for what we gave up to get him, we better re-sign him.
    2. Get better defensivley
    – Whether this means bringing in a consistent veteran, or staying put and hoping the young guys pull through, something needs to change.
    3. Assistant Coaches
    – I think McLean needs to pick his assistants so they can be better coordinated and be working off of the same page. It was noted earlier that McLean was told who his assistants would be and wasn’t able to pick them. Why?
    4. Trade for Crosby, Ovechkin, Shea Webber, Chara, Stamkos, and Malkin.

    Because… a man can dream, can’t he?

  • boom

    You know the worst thing about all this? How many Sens will want out of town now?

    UFA’s:

    1 – Hemsky (just left one horror show, doesn’t want to stay with another)

    UFA’s after next year:

    1- Ryan (likely wants to end up in Philly, so won’t sign extension)

    2- Spezza (you know he wants to go to the Leafs, so won’t sign extension. Also tired of being the whipping boy)

    3 -MacArthur – will likely depend on above?

    4- Methot – seems to have strange relationship with Clouston, ahh MacLean.

    Pissed off:
    1- Wiercioch (can’t blame him, has been better LD than Cowen and Phillips)

    Not to mention, guys in Binghamton who figure they are better than half the Senators (they may be right)

    DaCosta
    Pageau
    Boro

    All is not lost though, we signed Phillips for anolher 2 years…

    • Sensnation

      That’s some really useless speculation.

      • boom

        When I said “the worst thing”, i should have said “worst-case”. I wasn’t trying to speculate as much as i was stating what I was afraid may happen.

        • Sensnation

          Ah ok, ya that makes more sense. I’m not too worried about a worst case. I think 1 of Hemsky or Michalek is definitely staying. And as for the rest that aren’t FAs this coming summer, too hard to know how they’ll feel in a year. Especially when next year should return to the winning ways.

  • MethotToMyMadness

    I guess my prediction and gut feeling from yesterday was COMPLETELY wrong, lol. We just witnessed a fatal collapse, and it all happened thanks to a few deflating goals. You can’t put the entire blame on Lehner for the turn overs, but if he would have made the save on the Rangers 3rd goal, this game may have ended up completely different. But, it went in and the Sens basically just packed it in and so did Lehner.

    Lehner appears to be very unfocused and he’s not looked comfortable in the crease, not compared to last year. Maybe it’s a lack of playing time, or just the entire crappy season that’s got him down, it’s hard to say. I just hope he comes back next season focused and ready. I think it’s fair to saw the Sens can’t win with mediocre goal-tending, they allow too many opportunities. We win when our goalies play like Vezina winners.

    It’s been a tough, tough season to be a Sens fan. But, as bad as it’s been, we have seen some bright spots along the way, it’s just hard to remember them. I guess we have to take the few good things along with all the bad.

  • Laurence Babchyuk

    Good team, bad leadership = inconsistency. From the get go I never liked phillips and Spezza. It doesn’t matter if they play a good or a bad match, if the team can’t be better then a .500 club with them in the lineup and be on a 5 game winning streak with them out of the line up with peskyness and everything… then go back to a .500 ( or worst ) with them back in the lineup.. what does that tell everyone ? What we did ? we sign back Phillips !. Next summer I’ll hear that we extend Spezza… blehhhh. I love the sens, it’s just sad that we have those two leading the ship.

  • iKarly65

    My major concerns:

    Hemsky: he looks really good, and to bring in a guy for only 20~ games that has shown the best chemistry with the team captain, whom the team has been looking for years to find a good fit with, is depressing. Would like the Sens to extend him, but of course the ball is in Hemsky’s court. He’s auditioned well for the open market, and has spent his career on disappointing, struggling teams. Would probably like to go to a top team.

    Ryan: Sens traded a prospect arguably one of their top prospects in Noesen, a young top 6 in Silfverberg and a 1st. Sens had a lot of depth, didn’t really hurt to move some, but trading all that for a 1-2 year “rental” sucks. Ryan’s struggled – whether it’s him or the way he’s been (mis)used, but that’s irrelevant. The fact he has struggled sucks – period. His problems wit the team – coaching changes, ice time, etc., are all concerns that would likely push him out the door. If he plays well next season, that is both good and bad for the Sens. Good in that it likely will mean they are doing well also, but bad because it will up Ryan’s value and he’ll go to FA. If they cannot reach an extension this summer, they really have to consider trading him. The worry is he’s not going to get a return similar to what they gave up. This trade could possibly set the team back years, especially if the 1st round pick they gave up is a top 3.

  • thepez

    Apologize if tis has been asked, but is there a reason that DaCosta was not called up after the Olympics? He played very well during his last call up and deserved to get re-called.
    The dissapointing thing with this team is that they are mentally weak. How many times this season did we see them give up a bunch of goals in a short period of time. As soon as they screw up once they seem to get spooked. The worst part it’s the vets that are the biggest culprits.

  • Doc

    2.4 %.

    I’ll leave this here.

    • Colin

      I knew it. It’s all Putin’s fault…
      http://tinyurl.com/nwczomp

      • Doc

        I first read your message as “It’s all poutine’s fault”, and I was about to lay the smack down on you.

        But now I’m just hungry. Shame on you.

        • Colin

          LOL! Honestly Doc, I really don’t know whether to laugh or cry at this point. So many things to look forward to at the start of the season and such a consistently bad team all year long.

          • Doc

            I hear ya buddy.

            It’s going to be a looooon off-season. Better make peace now then suffer through it.

            Maybe this is what was needed. Maybe this shows where the team truly is as a whole. We overachieved last season, but it doesn’t mean we don’t have good pieces to build around.

            I still have faith in management. Murray knows what’s going on, and hopefully he has a plan to fix it this summer.

          • Colin

            There’s always next year. That’s what keeps me coming back.

          • Doc

            That’s what makes us fans.

  • Hax

    Well if you’re going out may as well go out big. Horrible game but if not for the over-achieving last season I don’t think this season would be such a disappointment. This team seems close but there is still a lot needed – both in terms of current players improving and likely still one or two pieces needed.

    I expect a top 6 forward signing/trade (in addition to Hemsky) and an upgrade on D (i.e. move a couple of guys out and bring in a legit top 2 or top 4 guy).

    • Doc

      One can only hope.

      Not much available through free agency, so they are probably going the trade route.

  • Hax

    On the bright side (#SensGood?) they played CEJ last night and it DID NOT spur a miracle comeback. Had the Sens managed to come back to win I fear CEJ would have been played every game after for years to come.

  • SenaTHOR

    Karlson, Michalyk, Spezza, Greening Phillps…minus a zillion. Don’t tell me +- isn’t important because coaches do!

  • Dirk-Diggler

    Chris Phillips was hard on himself in the postgame presser and he deserves every ounce of critisizm and tongue lashing that he get’s today. He was jut horrible last night (and most of this season). The writing is on the wall for the Big Rig, he just can’t play more than 10 mins a night in the NHL.

    It won’t happen but he should retire gracefully in the offseason. There is nothing worse than seeing a washed up athlete trying to hold on for a few more paycheques. This city has given Phillips a lot. Yes, he’s a good community guy but that doesn’t mean he’s a capable player in the NHL. Also, he has given to the community and the community has given him as much back. His brewery is great and it’s full every night. His legacy with Ottawa will be further tarnished with every game he plays.

    I just don’t know how he looks in the mirror and things he’s an NHL player for the next two seasons. What’s worse is Bryan Murray looking at him and also seeing an everyday NHL player to be paid $2.5M. Yikes!

    • Andrews theory

      Let’s be honest here…

      Chris Phillips was resigned solely on the basis that Alfie walked. Team didn’t feel the fans could handle losing another long term face of the franchise and community leader.

      That’s it, no more no less…

      It’s unfortunate and no he won’t retire, he seems to think he’ll play beyond the two years. He should really listen to some Neil Young “It’s better to burn out than fade away”

      • boom

        That’s exactly right, and Phillips negotiated his contract knowing that, and taling advantage of it. If he showed half that skill and expertise on the ice, we wouldn’t have an issue…

    • runningbear1974

      For an extra 5 million dollars, I wouldn’t bother looking in the mirror… Just keep practicing the “Ah shucks” face… Just shake your head a little so you look sincere, better that than actually practice…

  • Gordon Ramsli

    If Phillips was to get into better shape and have a strong off season training and take it seriously would he improve to his old self or is this just the fact that he’s getting older and he’s declining earlier than most?

    • runningbear1974

      I 100% agree… Maybe Phillips will be so ashamed of himself that this summer he’ll actually do some training… There is no way he’s been practicing…

  • EHMatt

    I think it’s time to say to Bryan Murray, “Thank you for your services, enjoy retirement.” He’s good for the beginning of a rebuild, but obviously not for finishing it off. There have just been some really bad evaluations of this team. Melnyk needs to hire a younger fresh GM and just leave him alone and let him do his job. No more meddling! We need someone that is willing to make the hard decisions and get maximum value for the players that need to go.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      I’ve not been a massive Murray supporter but kinda ridiculous to say it’s his fault and then in the same breath say it’s because of the owner meddling. How would bringing someone new in change the primary problem

      • John Q. Spartan

        People blaming the owner is a cop out.

        • Doc

          But blaming the GM isn’t. Got it.

          • John Q. Spartan

            Um, no.

          • Doc

            Makes perfect sense.

          • runningbear1974

            the GM decided to re-sign Phillips to 2 year extension… 2 more years…

          • s3nsfan

            And if The owner wanted to save face and told the gm to sign him???

          • runningbear1974

            I don’t know about that stuff… I’m under the impression it’s the GMs job, but if the owner made the decision, then in my opinion, that’s the wrong decision… But, again, some fans wanted that, so they got what they wanted…. Lucky them…

          • s3nsfan

            I am not a big fan of player loyalty. I am a big fan of players wanting to be here, and signing the BEST players. Not the mediocre players getting signed out of loyalty when they are definitely past their prime

          • Sensnation

            So you only want to sign players during their prime? Ya that’s a winning environment, because you know they’ll all want to come here knowing the minute you think they are over the hill you’ll get rid of them. There’s reality and then there’s your dreamland, some things you can do in your dreams just don’t’ work in reality.

          • s3nsfan

            I never said anything about signing age, i said the BEST players and CLEARLY phillips is not the best dman, hell i think corvo would be better. I have no problems signing older players, but the Phillips signing was in my opinion not a good one.

            So it’s ok for players to jump ship at the higher dollar, but the teams can’t sign a better player than one that is over the hill and a better player could be had?

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          So don’t blame the guy imposing the budget but the guy forced to adhere to it…. Got it logical

          • John Q. Spartan

            We spend $5 million less than Anahiem and $4 million more than Colorado… who’s being illogical?

            All you people ever do is go on about is how everything is Eugene Melnyk’s fault. It’s ridiculous.

            Who exactly were we going to be throwing all this extra money towards, that we chose not to?

          • BFR

            We spend almost 6.5 million less than Anaheim, and that’s after you consider they dropped another million in salary at the deadline by trading Fasth and Penner. Either way you look at it, 6.5-7.5 million would get you two solid players.

          • runningbear1974

            There is no team that is giving away good players… All the other teams, also want good players…

          • BFR

            The Leafs did.

          • John Q. Spartan

            Which two solid players were they bringing in for $3.25 to $3.75 million?

          • runningbear1974

            blame the players on the ice for the decisions they are making that are contributing towards losing…
            My worry is, have these guys learned this year, or will they do the same thing next year…

        • Rebel Held Suburb

          Blaming the drunk who drove Alfredsson out of town is NOT
          a cop out

          • John Q. Spartan

            What does Rob Ford have to do with this?

        • runningbear1974

          I agree… This year’s team should be better than last year… It SHOULD… Add Spezza and Karlsson, and Bobby Fucking Ryan, SHOULD have improved the team…

      • EHMatt

        By meddling I mean pushing Bryan to give up youth for proven players. Basically rushing him into making decisions. Maybe someone new would have the ability to calm Eugene down or at least get him to understand why certain moves are made and others are not. I heard this morning that it was Eugene that forced Murray to up the pick in the Bobby Ryan trade in order to get it done that day. Had Eugene not meddled, the negotiation could’ve continued and maybe we’d still have our 1st round pick this year and Anaheim would have our 2nd.

    • CC

      Still don’t like the CP signing. Another brutal pass tape to tape center ice last night. A vet like him should know to put it up the boards..

      • runningbear1974

        He has always made really bad decisions with the puck… Always… And he really doesn’t look like he practices… He’s not getting any better…

  • Jason

    2-6-2 in the last 10, against what I would called weaker end teams. That’s horrible.
    If Anderson can’t start the next game I’d like to see Hammond get his first NHL start, he can’t be any worse than Lehner has been. Maybe he will actually get hot and we can ride him out for a few games.
    I’d also like to see Phillips get sat out next game, he played absolutely fucking atrocious and he deserves to be benched.
    At this point in the season it’s probably better to let Weircoch play and develop and just give Phillips some time to rest anyways.

    • Hax

      6-2-2 and we’d be in a playoff spot.

  • Doc

    I thought things were bad around here and on twitter…. I went and took a peak at the HF forums and wow has that place turned to pure crap.

    What a bunch of idiots.

    • Zelle

      HF forums? I apologize for my ignorance!

      • Doc

        hfboards.com

        Do yourself a favour and don’t go look. I just saved you some time and a few IQ points.

        • Zelle

          Thanks xD

          I used to post on nhl.com but with the change to facebook links I’m really not interested. I generally like it here, although it’s been a bit depressing, but I feel it too so I’m probably in good company.

  • Corey Trevor

    Well… this season sucked. 2-5-2 since the Olympics, ouch.

    However, I’m pretty proud of the org over its 20 year lifespan (this year not included – seeing as there’s still a hefty amount of fresh poop in the bed). Compared to Toronto, we’ve had similar success since expansion:

    #1 – The Sens have only iced a team since the 92-93 season
    #2 – Since then, Ottawa has made the playoffs 14 of 20 times, soon to be 14 for 21. The Leafs have made it 11 of 20 years, soon to be 12 of 21 years.
    #3 – Reg. season team records have been pretty close during that time… OTT has 1644 GP with 732-695-115 (Ties)-102(OT/SO losses) while TOR has 1646GP with 776-649-112-109. While Ottawa has won 45% of their GP, Toronto has managed a 47% win percentage over the same period.

    Obviously, OTT were an expansion team and had a lot to overcome in the early years… so I’d say the W/L record in the reg. season is a wash. Ottawa won the NE 4 times, with one President’s Trophy, while Toronto has won the NE once.

    #4 – The playoffs are where both teams have done poorly. OTT has a 9-14 record in playoff series, included an 0-4 record against TOR (losses in 99/00, 00/01, 01/02 and 03/04). Toronto on the other hand has a 12-11 record in playoff series dating back to 92/93, winning all 4 series against the Sens. However, TOR has never made it to finals during that period, losing all 4 conference finals series (Kings in 92/93, Canucks in 93/94, Sabres in 98/99 and Hurricanes in 01/02).

    So, Ottawa has a Cup final appearance and a 70% success-rate of making the playoff since their most recent inception, while Toronto has bushwhacked Ottawa in the playoffs but haven’t reached the finals since Ottawa’s been in the league. Ottawa pooped the bed this year, while Toronto hasn’t won a playoff series since beating Ottawa 4-3 in the 2002-2003 playoffs.

    I’d say both teams are open to plenty of criticism, since neither has seen sustained playoff success in recent years. So, we’re not worse than Toronto… #Sensgood

  • MethotToMyMadness

    While the Sens didn’t perform up to standard this year, we can’t say yank Murray or PMac or anyone else at this point. We just had 2 seasons before this, where we saw continued growth from our players. Everyone team deserves a mulligan.

  • xiorcal

    Player only meeting before today practice.

    • Doc

      Tag championship.

    • Dirk-Diggler

      is this a weekly thing now?

  • karlssens

    I find it weird how Bobby Ryan still says that Philly is his favourite team..

  • WaitingSince92

    The biggest thing wrong with this year isn’t offence, defence, coaching, goaltending or ownership, although I personally would put some blame on the Euge.

    This biggest problem was actually doing better than expected last year (mostly due to INSANE save %, especially on the PK). People assumed the rebuild was done and that we would improve on last year’s performance.

    Had we finished near the bottom of the league last year, expectations would be lower this year and people we be happy (happier, anyway) with the progress we’ve made.

    Easy to forget we’re in a rebuild.

    • runningbear1974

      I believe if Spezza, Karlsson, and Cowen would have stayed injured we would be better this year than last year…

      • bluebuyyoo

        Fucking brilliant!! Just have someone Tonya Harding them all and all of the problems will be solved. Ugh!

    • Sensnation

      Agreed! Great attitude about it all. This team is still growing and learning and needs some time before the rebuild can be considered over.

      Rebuilds are often sold as 3year plan, but normally can take up to 5 for a good one, longer if you’re Edmonton.

  • SenaTHOR

    Realistically if we are 5th from the bottom as far as spending why would everybody set their hopes so high? Takeaway 3 of our top scorers and our team’s defense is way better. Would it have ben enough to win games we lost, I don’t know BUT the differential of goals for and against DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Here IMO is the root of the problem along with less than stellar goaltending.

  • Gordon Ramsli

    Rest of the season roll with

    MacArthur – Turris – Ryan (Can play 2 way hockey)
    Michalek – Spezza – Hemsky (Offensive line defensive liability)
    Hoffman – Zibanejad – Stone (youth trio)
    Condra – Smith – Neil (energy line)

    Greening/Kassian

    Methot – Karlsson
    Ceci – Gryba
    Cowen – Phillips

    Hoffman & Zibanejad seem to click, adding Stone would give a nice youthful trio to player 10-13 minutes a night learning to play full 2 way hockey

    Nows the time to let our AHLer’s make the transition now

    • SenaTHOR

      You can’t put two righties and two lefties together on defense.

      • runningbear1974

        It kind of doesn’t matter what you do with the defense. They are playing so weirdly, that you never know… Maybe have them all playing with the wrong stick, maybe that will help them…

      • Gordon Ramsli

        I know it’s not what Pmac likes but anything is worth trying at this point, or we are going to have very disgruntled goaltenders at the end of the year

        • SenaTHOR

          They should be disgruntled, they are not doing their job very well either.

        • Pugnacious Serf

          Has nothing to do with what Paul Mac likes, its what as a player you like. You think things are sloppy now, wait til inexperienced and complacent dmen start having to turn to their back hands to collect the puck off the boards and pass. Other than Karlsson, maybe Weircoch, none of our guys have the hands or mental processing power.

      • Sensnation

        That’s a very new school of thought. This obsessions with dmen sticking to their sides is interesting, but I think ultimately it is a mistake. The best shooting angle from the point would be playing on your off side. Players use their bodies to stop the pucks anyways, and the backhand argument below is pretty weak. There’s nothing wrong with playing someone on their off side, so many players have done it over the history of the NHL and had success.

    • Zelle

      I’d prefer:
      Cowen – Karlsson
      Methot – Gryba
      Ceci – Wiercioch

      Give Phillips a time out.

  • Sandy

    When the re-tool started, fans anticipated a 3-5 years without playoff hockey and they accepted that..
    Then the team wins in the first two years of the re-tool, unexpectedly. So much was expected of this team this season, then they struggle badly and inconsistency.. and they miss out on the playoffs… Let’s face it.. this team is not going 10-2-2 over the last 14 games to go on a run… it’s not happening..
    Oppositions know that all they have to do to win against Ottawa is a hard forecheck on the defense as they are weak getting the puck out and the forwards don’t help much. That’s the issue and even though the coach goes over it again and again and again and again, these guys just don’t get it… or can’t get it. If they can’t get it.. then get new players. I really wish it was that simple..

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Personally the unexpected success over the last few seasons(especially last year as that was obviously not a standard year and Noone in their right mind would want to go into a season with the lineup we did at times) isn’t what is causing my frustration and now at this point complete lack of caring and interest in the games… It is the complete and utter lack of logical choices coming from the top down… Literally anyone I speak to that works there says something has changed… It used to be fun… It used to be like getting together with family… Now it’s tedious and a chore.

      It’s been said in the media now… But I am certain there are bigger problems than we as fans know. I still maintain that there is a major disconnect somewhere, possibly in multiple places

      • Sandy

        IMO… it all comes down to the Owner and his cost cutting…
        A bad working environment helps no one.. This organization used to be one of the best in way of treating players and their employees…

        • Sensnation

          Is that the reason Karlsson just floats on D? I think it’s easy to lay the blame at the owner’s feet, but it always surprises me how anti Melnyk you are given that you were definitely around for him saving this franchise from it’s former mess. I guess grass always seems greener … but it really isn’t.

          This org is still one of the best in the way of treating players. Alfie left for a “better” Detroit team. I think we can all see that Detroit isn’t even better.

          • BFR

            Alfie left because he was disrespected by a drunk blowhard.

          • Sensnation

            Yes, of course he did. You say disrespected, I say he got greedy and misunderstood what playing that last year of a front loaded contract meant. If Alfie had been re-signed at 6-7 mil this year, we’d all be bitching about him and paying for an over the hill player.

          • BFR

            Alfie’s made plenty of sacrifices for the organization over the years, he’s earned the right to expect a fair deal.

          • Sensnation

            He had a fair deal. It was front loaded, he got that money earlier than he deserved it. Then forgot it was already in the bank and wanted more. Hope he’s enjoying the Detroit injury ward.

          • BFR

            And perhaps he considers the front-loaded contract a thank you for the fact that he deferred payment when the team was bankrupt. An action he took a lot of heat for from the NHLPA.

          • Sensnation

            Yup, there’s plenty of back and forth to go around each side. At the end of the day though, you can’t take the high road and play out your 1 mil contract when you should have already retired, and then turn around the next year and say overpay me for the fact I played it. You lose the high road if you want reparations anyways.

          • BFR

            Whatever… He would have signed for less than he was asking for if EM could actually keep his yap shut.

          • Sensnation

            No way, he was asking for more from the sens than he got from Detroit and was insulted that BM didn’t feel he was worth it. Please review the events that led up to his departure.

          • BFR

            Care to defer to Chirps’ opinion? The events are as follows:

            -Alfie chose not to resign with Ottawa.
            -Alfie signed a deal with the team he was most comfortable with.

          • Sensnation

            What? No one is disagreeing with those 2 vague descriptions of events. The point still is he asked for more from BM then he got from Detroit.

          • BFR

            Those are not vague descriptions. They are two events that happened separately. His first offer was high; all negotiations start that way. He got insulted, but not by BM.

          • Colin

            Alfie had already checked out during the playoffs with Pitt.

  • Sensnation

    Enjoyed the game last night. Though the final score sucked, game was very entertaining and for the most part close. That 4th goal from the point that fooled Lehner really let it start getting out of hand. Boys never gave up, but just couldn’t muster enough to catch back up.

    As for Karlsson, he just needs to give a fuck. I met a journalist from NJ at the game last night and he couldn’t get over how little Karlsson tries on D. And there lies the problem our number 1 dman, couldn’t give a shit about playing d. At this point, generational talent or not, can’t go anywhere with him playing like this. I hope he comes back next fall with a renewed sense of purpose.

    Again though, year 3 of a rebuild, small step back after 2 amazing years. Not worried, it’ll all be ok with the pieces we have, there just may be a scapegoat this offseason.

    • Sandy

      I agree with Karlsson thoughts.. It’s like he does what he wants out there.
      Offensive he is awesome, very creative.. but if he’s going to play defense, then get with the program.
      He needs a strong voice to get him in line.
      Is it that he doesn’t care since Alfie left? What exactly did Alfie tell him about the situation as to why he left?
      He has a lot of maturing to do.

  • aegiszx

    If Melnyk puts the team up for sale, I hope someone like Jim Basille puts in a bid. I know Bettman would never let it happen though after the Phoenix fiasco but having met the guy a couple of times at various conferences, he’s a real smart and sharp leader… I’m guessing if he did put it up for sale, he would ideally want a local business group, which unfortunately limits the candidate pool.

    • Sensturion

      Blackberry what?

    • Sensnation

      He’s not putting it up for sale. Not sure how much clearer he can be about this.

      • aegiszx

        Fanbase is half/half… They want him to put it up for sale or they want him to spend to the cap… Last I checked the top cap teams havent even made the SC final the past few years (Philly, Leafs, Penguins, Caps). Guess you cant please everyone…

        • Sensnation

          It’s not up to the fan base though, so really doesn’t matter. More than half of Canada wants Harper to go jump off a cliff, but that doesn’t mean it’s happening.

          • Zelle

            Nooo don’t bring politics into a perfectly good hockey discussion!

        • Sandy

          But a team has to be competitive… If other teams, especially in their division/conference.. continue to spend and get better, while the Sens stay at the cap floor with the young players… how can they compete and win?

          • aegiszx

            Pretty sure the Avs have a lower cap than we do… and they are in one of the most competitive divisions… I think the problems start first and foremost with the culture around the organization… New York has consistently been where you go for the bright lights and big money (thanks Sather)… yet they havent even been to the SC finals in god knows how long…

          • Sensnation

            ’94 when they won the cup.

            Sather’s been there since 2000. 14 years, no cup, no Stanley Cup finals.

            In Ottawa he’d have lost his job a long time ago. Crazy eh!

    • Pugnacious Serf

      Why do people believe that failed businessmen that have run companies into the ground can run a hockey team? 9/10 times they run the company with their balls and not their brain, Ottawa is a prime example.

      • Sensnation

        Failed businessmen? Did Melnyk all of a sudden lose all his millions and his companies all fold?

        • not YOUR wingman

          YEP – that’s pretty much what happened

          • Sensnation

            That’s not even close to what happened lol

      • aegiszx

        Because no one has ever bounced back from a failed project right?

    • Sandy

      Does Basille actually have any $$$ after his company has down south in a hurry? No thanks.. We have enough problems with a whacked out Owner now.. don’t need another one.
      I’m beginning to think Melnyk is the reincarnation of Harold Ballard…

  • NO65*

    Was I dreaming or I heard fans booing CP4 last night? Wouldn’t that be great that everytime he makes dumbass decisions with the puck again to boo the hell out of him. He might get the message after a little while. And believe me, I have a feeling fans would start booing early in the game.

    • Sensnation

      How about fans learn to cheer first before going to the boos. Last night there was a kid who couldn’t be more than 8 or so, who put all Sens fans to shame. Start of the game to end of the game he was chanting, nonstop. Our section tried to join him as much as we could.

      Do people not realize that fans can actually impact a game? It’s sad that this fanbase is so obsessed with voicing their displeasure they can’t even muster up the energy to cheer and support their team before it all goes to shit.

      • Jason

        Are you sure it wasn’t a little girl? She’s at almost every game and does the go sens go chant non stop.

        • Sensnation

          Thought it was a boy, but maybe. I was a fair distance away. Still impressive.

          • NO65*

            Easy for a young kid who don’t get the game to cheer no matter what happens. When you pay $$$ out of your pocket and see this player costing game after game, I am not cheering. The scary part is that he might have some influence on Ceci on the long run.

          • Sensnation

            The whole reason I can hear that kid is because so few of you cheer. As for his influence on Ceci it’s been very positive as is already evident. Your hate on is way too hard. This is game, relax a little. Phillips is not the reason we miss the playoffs.

      • NO65*

        I get your point but I am kinda scared that if we start cheering for CP4, he might think we like his game. That could only get worse. LOL

        • Sensnation

          Is Phillips who you blame for last night, this season? I actually have no problem with Phillips as our 5/6 dman, the problem is he’s playing 3/4 this year because we can’t find good enough partners for Karlsson and Cowen.

          • SenaTHOR

            Do you work for the CNIB?

          • Sensnation

            No clue what that even stands for.

          • SenaTHOR

            Canadian National INSTITUTE FOR THE BLIND!

          • Sensnation

            Because I think Phillips works as a 5/6 dman? lol ok

          • SenaTHOR

            Look at the numbers without bias.

          • Sensnation

            What numbers? What are you talking about? Spit it out. Numbers are not entire stories. If you’re talking about Cowen, his game has improved, not worried about his numbers at this stage in his career. If your’e talking about Phillips, he’s here as a veteran leader and Ceci plays his best with him, so again I ask what’s the issue. They both have contributed and have value going forward. Bias has nothing to do with it.

          • Jacques

            What a big mouth!

          • Zelle

            You don’t think Phillips is being overplayed? His mistakes usually happen in the latter half of games. He’s old. I don’t mind Phillips, I just think he should play a lot less. You know I’m no Cowen fan but he can at least play top minutes without looking like he needs a rest, same with Karlsson. Unsure about the others. I love Methot and Ceci though.

          • Sensnation

            Yes, Phillips is overplayed, but still valuable in a 3rd pairing role.

      • Andrews theory

        Have you ever been to a game in hockey mad market outside of Ottawa or any other passionate fan base in pro sports?

        I can assure you booing and displeasure are not exclusive to Ottawa and they sure as shit have every right to voice their displeasure.

        The only time I’ve adamantly objected was the opening night ceremony a few years ago when several fans began booing Gonchar during the intros, that was a pure lack of class.

        Blind positivity is equally as annoying

      • Zelle

        Too cute, I would have joined him. I’m always yelling and cursing and cheering even the smallest plays when I go. Hardly anyone ever joins though.

        • Sensnation

          Section 302 was pretty lively yesterday, had a lot of fun.

          It is sad how dead it is in there though. Too many people busy on their phones and thinking they are too good to yell for their team.

  • Sensnation

    The best move this team could do would be trade Gryba and Wiercioch for 1 bonafide top 4 dman.

    • NO65*

      Which team has the luxury to get rid of a Top 4 dman and for Gryba and Wiercioch? You have to be kidding.

      • Sensnation

        You can add to that package, but the point is that those are the extra bodies that don’t have a regular role and we need someone to pair with Cowen on the 2nd pairing or improve on Methot in the 1st.

        As for available top 4 dmen, yes most teams need one, but there are always a few available. Just ask Winnipeg.

        Not sure why you assume that the whole deal would be just those two for a top4. That’s pretty retarded that you think that’s what’s being said.

        • SenaTHOR

          How about trading overpaid underskilled Cowen

          • Sensnation

            Might as well restart the rebuild. Not getting in another Cowen discussion. And if after how much better he’s played this 2nd half you’re still upset with the fact he was going to be overpaid for at least 2-3 years while he learns and grows, not quite sure what to say.

          • SenaTHOR

            Maybe last 10 games has been bettter.

          • Sensnation

            Since he’s been removed from having to cover 2 dmen while Karlsson floats and grabs a coffee, he’s been playing with much more force and offensive push to his game. It’s been great to watch.

            Still a long way to go, but it’s so much better in the 2nd half.

        • NO65*

          Borocop and Claeson are already better than those 2. At least Borocop will make the team next season and Wiercioch will be trade bate.

          • Sensnation

            HAHAHAHAHA

            Boro is a fringe NHLer. What a joke! And make the team? Like as a pitty 7th dman who barely plays.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Yes let’s move weircioch… The unexplained benching that has been arguably one of our most consistent defenders the once in a blue moon that he gets to play

      • Sensnation

        Consistent? Do you watch how he plays defense. This is the reason he barely plays.

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          So let’s break this down… He has been better than Gryba (most games I’ve watched), Cowen(again most games), Philips(but a donkey with four broken legs would be so not saying much)… That’s already half… He was at least on par with Corvo…. Again when he occasionally played.

          He basically plays the way that McLean wants. Has a great first pass.

          What are you expecting from him

          • Sensnation

            Disagree with that 100%. And I want him to play D and use his size to take the body. He is not even close to what PM wants, or else HE’D BE PLAYING!!!

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            He wants a possession game… How can you say that he isn’t that

            I can’t understand how you think he has played worse than any let alone all the guys I listed.

            I do agree that we need some more muscle/fear inducing from our back end.. Bit again none of the guys I’ve listed have consistently done it anymore than weircioch

          • Sensnation

            The proof is in the pudding bud. He doesn’t get much icetime because he’s even less reliable than the guys who do. Even if you think my “opinion” on this is wrong, the coaches actions support it. So not sure how he’s more of a PM guy if PM is not playing him. That’s pretty strange, no?

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Yes because all the decisions this season have been logical

          • Sensnation

            The problem with your assessment is you do not even come close to having all the information. So you are making a judgement on logistics based on MAYBE half the information that applies to the situation.

            I think most decisions this year were indeed logical. Just because I don’t agree with all of them, doesn’t mean they are not logical. There’s a reason PM does certain things, some of them I get, some I don’t, but I’m sure there’s decent to good reasoning to just about all of them.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Fair enough… Although I don’t necessarily lay the choices solely on his shoulders.

            But you are right, maybe weircioch is a total dick and Noone wants to play with him.. Maybe he is late for practice /meetings.. Who knows

          • Sensnation

            Maybe he just isn’t good enough defensively. I get that you don’t see it, but it’s very obvious that’s why he’s not playing.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Again I don’t think he is any worse than the guys I listed and at least is able to make a decent first pass

          • Sensnation

            But at the end of the day all that matters is how the coach sees it. I think Wiercioch deserved more icetime this year too. Most of those minutes Corvo played I’d have given to him, but he’s unfortunately not good enough defensively, and given our deficiencies there we had to go with the better defensive players, though I understand you don’t see it that way.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Like who though… Philips and Cowen?!? Come on they are equal at best

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Will Cowen be better defensively… Maybe, probably, I hope so… Was Philips at one point in his career absolutely, is he now… I can barely skate and think I could be almost as effective

          • Sensnation

            Cowen will be better, and already has improved on the first half.

            Phillips wont’ get any better and has lost a step, but he’s still a very NHL worthy dman.

            Hockey is a game of mistakes, not perfection. Phillips is the type of player who’s positives are almost unnoticeable and weaknesses are glaring and obvious. It looks bad, but it’s never as bad as it looks.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Which is why I didn’t knock him for that reason in the last game we lost to mtl….. But this is another example if no logic…. Why he was even put into that situation baffles me

      • SenaTHOR

        OH BOY! Consistent defender?

      • MoeDozer

        Bring back brian lee

  • NO65*

    Let’s hope that Hemsky want to sign to stay in Ottawa and for Luke Richardson to be responsible for the D squad right from training camp. That would be a good start. Then, who will push the vets for a spot (Lazar, Pageau, Stone, Claeson, Borocop etc).
    Our future is looking promising.

    • Zelle

      Hemsky, Ryan, MacArthur: let’s hope they will all want to stay.

      • Sandy

        What are the odds of any of them staying?

        • Sensnation

          80%, 50%, 90% in order lol ;)

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Jesus that’s optimistic.

          • Sensnation

            I guess. Obviously this topic is total opinion, but in general NHL players don’t want to move more than they have to. MacArthur is celebrated more here than he has been in his career. Hemsky maybe belongs closer to 50-50, wouldn’t disagree with someone who thought that.

            I don’t’ think you can go below 50% chance on a current player unless they’ve requested a trade or to be moved.

          • Zelle

            haha I love it

            aaah statistics!

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          I’d go about 50/25/75

  • Andrews theory

    I’d keep Wiercioch and Ceci over any of our young D, moving either of these guys is a major mistake unless it lands you an elite defender…

    And yes Wiercioch style is far more in tune with Macs possession game plan. His benching is completely mind boggling…

    Cowen will get better but he’s been way over his head 95% of the season and I don’t see Gryba having much more development left in his game

    • Sensnation

      If we didn’t have Karlsson’s 1 way offensive style already playing half the games, I’m sure Wiercioch would play more. But as he’s the poor man’s version, can’t afford to play 45+mins out of every 60 with 1 of those 2 on the ice at a time.

      See fans call this mind boggling, but the reasoning is very simple. He sucks defensively, our team problems are defensive, why decrease the skill in our weakest area, just to suit up more offense?

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Wow someone who actually watches the games

      • Sensnation

        Yup, we’re a forum of fans here who don’t watch games. You know cause why watch the games you cheer for. Hopefully one day someone explains to you perspective and how 2 people can watch the same thing and see it differently.

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          It was meant more tongue in cheek… Mainly due to me having a lot of people disagree with me.

          Was starting to question myself.

          • Sensnation

            We need tones for typing lol, I’m sure mine gets misread pretty often too.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Agreed… It would maybe even avoid a tonne of the stupid arguments in here

          • Andrews theory

            If the brass didn’t think highly of Wire they never would have penciled him in for Gonchar this season.

            He wasn’t afforded the opportunity to play through mistakes and was even taken out of the lineup following good outings.

            Must be the same logic that sees Neil added as the 6 th attacker last night

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            I’d turned it off by then… Was he seriously? Why not just tell the keeper to skate directly to the offensive zone.

          • Sensnation

            Not sure I saw the lineup where Wiercioch was penciled into the 2nd d pairing, but Neil was added as the 6th attacker to get in the way/face/crease of Lundqvist, one of the top 3 goalies in the NHL, who had been robbing the sens all night!

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    I really feel like Macarthur will re sign with Ottawa, He is from toronto and he has probably been our best player all season long, works very hard every shift. Hemsky with the right offer, will probably stay if him and Spezza continue their play as for Bobby, I am a little worried, He has been my fav hockey player since his anaheim days and the day we traded for him I was smiling for 24 hours I really hope next year we have a goood season so these guys could see how great it is too win in Senators uniform. I also hope we end the next 14 games with a winning percentage and the boys dont quit and play hard.

    • Zelle

      I think players would really enjoy it if we cheered more as their names get called out, or when they do good plays, not just scoring, but scoring chances, or even a good clear out. I also think they appreciate the love on twitter as most of the players on the team seem to be active users. I know Methot loves it. As fans we should make sure the players know we love having them wear the Senators uniform at every opportunity!

  • MethotToMyMadness

    Right now, there are all kinds of posts about letting our younger AHL players get into some games and play out the season. That’s great, I agree they should get all the ice time they can. But DON’T bring guys up from the A and put them into this mess. Leave them in Bingo, where they are actually playing well, in a system that is working, where they will get into the playoffs and gain some valuable experience.

    I think Stone is a guy who can come up and be a 3rd liner, but right now, he’s playing 1st and 2nd line minutes in Bingo and winning. While NHL experience is good, a losing experience is not. If we have the option of letting any of our younger guys go back down to Bingo to finish out the season on a high note, I’d be much happier with that scenario.

    • Sensnation

      Great suggestion and idea!

    • SENSsmile

      Your idea makes too much sense.

      The 3M braintrust (Melnyk /Murray MacLean) will certainly want to do otherwise…

    • Andrews theory

      How bout we let CP finish the season in Elmira ;-)

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        Let him empty the trash at big rig

  • Pasky

    2014-2015 Lineup (as a wishlist)

    XXXX-Spezza-Hemsky
    MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
    Hoffman-Zibanejad-Condra
    Greening-Smith-Neil

    XXXX-Karlsson
    Methot-Ceci
    Phillips-Cowen/Weircioch
    Borowiecki

    Anderson
    Lehner

    Trade one of Cowen or Weircioch with Prince to upgrade the defense. That core looks alot better pushing Methot down and keeping Phillips at 12-15 minutes a game. Look for an in-house solution for the forwards group first. See if Puempel or Stone(again…) are ready or see if Pageau or Lazar are ready to play 3LC and have Zibanejad play the wing. If it doesn’t work after a month or so then go the trade route in mid-November or early December.

    • Sensnation

      Methot-Ceci would be very surprising to see. No one but Methot can come close to living on the same line as Karlsson, and Ceci has looked his best with Phillips imo. Cowen-Ceci in a 2nd paring might be interesting, but may also be a few years away.

  • Andrews theory

    I fully appreciate that +- isn’t everything but it is worth noting there is only one defenseman on the team with a better +- than Wiercioch…

    Arguing that he’s bad defensively when we have CP on the ice turning the puck over like a baker and standing like a Pilon seems a bit odd.

    Furthermore last I checked, you don’t get better unless you are allowed to play.

    I’ll be pissed if we trade him but if he isn’t going to get playing time move him at the draft, I can assure you there are a ton of teams interested in a 40 point defenseman with upside.

    • Sensnation

      Very easy to look at +/- and ignore circumstances. Wiercioch has played very protected minutes when he does get icetime. Would you sit Karlsson in favor of Wiercioch, because similar arguments apply to him defensively.

    • CUP 2014-15

      I wish they would run the rest of the year with
      MM EK
      JC CC
      PW EG

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    I know this wont happen but I had a dream that the game agaisnt toronto at the end of the season was for our playoff hopes and we shit the bed. Maybe the boys have a little run in them to make this DREAM come true and key word is dream

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Bold prediction Weircioch comes in to the lineup and sens win their next 4 games agaisnt TB DAL TB and FLO. HAHA

    • Sensnation

      Go big or go home, I like the boldness of the prediction!

  • Hax

    Silver lining (of sorts) – at least with no first round pick we don’t really care if we finish 9th. So there’s no extra frustration of winning games at the end of the year ruining our pick. And if we keep losing, who really cares if Anaheim drafts high? I’m sure whoever they draft will get brought up for years to come either way but at the end of the day what happens to Anaheim doesn’t mean anything to us.

    • Sensnation

      Agreed Hax. Also, given the low expectations for this coming draft, I’d say as long as Ryan re-signs with us it worked out and if he doesn’t it will really depend on how all those prospects progress long term. Still like the deal though, have to take chances in this business.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        If he doesn’t resign we lose me if he does who knows, I still think we lose but it had to be done.

        I pretty much loved all three key pieces

        • Sensnation

          The pieces are all prospects though and so far Noesen and Silfverberg have under impressed and been injured most of the year.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Agreed, my three pieces were Noesan, silfverberg and Ryan.

            The day the trade was announced I was going to go get a silfverberg Jersey, it was quickly switched to Ryan…. Although I honestly have a jinx every player I get is traded or for some reason is never the same

            Had

            Yashin
            Hossa
            Hamlet
            Redden
            Emery
            Hasek
            Alfredson
            Almost silfverberg
            Now ryan

          • Jacques

            Well if he doesn’t resign it’s because he wants to go to Philly! So do we broker a trade to Philly this summer and get shafted or do we trade him at the deadline for a loss! It’s resign or settle for less, that’s how I see it! Hope he signs!

          • Sensnation

            Nice! I’m very jealous of your collection. I was almost going to get a Silfverberg jersey too. Still a fan, but he has a long road if he wants to be a legit top 6. Seemed closer when he was here because of our desperation for one. Hopefully after Selanne retires those chances go to him and he flourishes.

          • Zelle

            Don’t you get a Turris jersey then!

          • puckoff

            Loul! Turris, Mac, Karlsson, Ryan and Methot are definitely keepers. Right now I’m not sure how many of the other Sens are.

            My personal opinion is that the 5 Sens that were for most of last season, had trouble regaining their form. Spezza, Cowen, Karlsson, Cowen and Andersson.

            Spezza even said that it took him 20 games to get back to his normal game pace.

          • Zelle

            So true. All those guys are keepers. I’d be ridiculously upset if they traded Turris because he is my favorite by a mile. Hoping for a strong camp from the entire team this off season, minus perhaps Ryan for potential surgery. Not sure how intense his injury is.

      • Jacques

        If Ryan doesn’t want to resign , Murray just has to get the best return possible so we aren’t totally fooooked!

  • Sensturion

    Most people have probably seen this already, but this was a class act by the Sharks. This is why the NHL is the best sports league in the world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OSJHQFHbGA

    • Sensnation

      Wow! Just awesome!

    • Zelle

      Amazing. Also loved everything Spezza did for that poor bullied boy. Definitely some class acts in the NHL.

  • BeJamin

    Noesen has had a terrible season, Silf looks like at best a 40 point player, and the 1st is in a weaker draft year. It’s not ideal but I would still rather have the star player. The other pieces are far easier to obtain.

    • puckoff

      Isn’t Noeson out for the season with another blown knee?

    • WaitingSince92

      You’re right, except for Silfverberg. He’ll eclipse 40 pts no problem. Just needs a year healthy. With a release like that, you can bet he’ll eventually be a 30 goal scorer. Remember, this is his second year and he was injured for a large portion of it.

      If we resign Ryan, the trade was worth it. If we don’t, we’re gonna regret getting rid of Silfverberg – BIGTIME.

  • CUP 2014-15

    Have to like CMac on CBC Ottawa sports. This league will humble you, went on about the teams lack of work ethic and the thought that points would come easier with everyone healthy. Good interview.

  • puckoff

    So what does everyone think?

    Do the Sens keep the status quo knowing that there is a very good draft coming up next season with McDavid and see what happens with all the young assets in Bingo?

    Personally, I don’t like the idea of trading off young players until the Sens know what they are. Hoffman, DaCosta, and Stone all looked good

    • Zelle

      I think the team needs to ask themselves some serious questions, but selling in panic mode or even trading in panic mode definitely isn’t the answer.

      • puckoff

        Tru dat. Knee jerk reactions rarely work. My reasoning would be, if the prospects work, then great.

        If not, you can always trade the vets and some prospects at the trade deadline and hope for a high draft pick. The current top 5 all look good, including McDavid.

    • Yukon Cornelius

      This team is not going to be bad enough next season to be ‘challenging’ for McDavid. Let’s not talk about the Sens shitting the bed next season when this one isn’t even over (not to say I think they will make the playoffs let alone deserve to).

      • Sensnation

        Don’t all the teams that miss the playoffs get a chance at him?

        • puckoff

          Actually, I think you are right. The lottery is weighted for all of the non playoff teams, 14

      • puckoff

        That’s probably true, but even a top 5 pick would help. It has been discouraging how the Sens have fallen apart since the Olympic break.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        We are bottom 7 in the league right now. My why are you so sure that we won’t? Even if we don’t get #1 there are easily 7-8 other absolute studs, one that is almost on par with him.

        We may be losing any or all of

        Michalek
        Hemsky
        Gryba

        Two top six(at least on our team, and a D….Our weakest position.

        Hemsky is also the first person since the name that shall not be spoken that seems to have chemistry with Spezza… So put Spezza down another peg.

        Throw in a injury or two… And Andersons annual injury and honestly I don’t think being in the lottery is out of the question.

    • Sensnation

      DaCosta’s a really nice player, but with Spezza, Turris, Zibanejad, Lazar and Pageau is there ever going to be room for him to get proper minutes? At some point 1 of these guys will need to get traded or moved.

      I like the idea of just continuing with the plan though. Puempel, Claesson, Pageau and hopefully Lazar, all appear to be able to contribute in the coming year or two. If they re-sign both Michalek and Hemsky there’s again so much depth in the forward ranks. This team can almost subtract without needing to add if we’re just talking about filling a roster with NHL players. Top end talent is still a bit short though, which is where I think Puempel and Lazar could fit in down the line.

      • puckoff

        Hoffman has been good too. Zbad and Turris just keep improving which bodes well for the Sens.

        Actually, I think Borocop has a 1way contract next year. That means he plays with the Sens or they trade him.

        But great points. The Sens will be forced to do some trades but there is a dearth of top end talent. But that’s because the Sens have not sucked like the Pens, Hawks, laffs, Caps etc for years.

        I believe they all had multiple top 5 picks. The Sens haven’t had any since Spezza, and that was through a trade.

        • Sensnation

          Boro’s 1 way is really cheap and at one point it was believed he can still be sent to minors without being waived. 1 way only means he gets paid NHL salary no matter where he plays. There’s no guarantee he’ll be in the NHL for Ottawa.

          Hoffman is a lock for this team imo. He’s been above and beyond what I expected and way better than Conacher ever was. I’d get rid of Condra to keep him next year if needed.

          You are completely on point about our rebuild vs those tank to top pick ones. The great part is that BM has been able to find top 5-10 value later in the draft! Like Ceci was in his top 5 or so and slipped, Karlsson generational, Puempel could be the best sniper in his class.

          • Sandy

            Have long before Puempel is in the NHL?

          • puckoff

            He has 36 points in 59 games, but 23 are goals

          • puckoff

            Yep, Stone is another great example. He was a 6th round pick and Hoffman was a 5th round pick.

            Stone has been on fire in Bingo. I’m not sure about now, but he did have 7 points in his last 4 games. I’m not sure if Bingo played last night or Sunday

  • WaitingSince92

    Love the guy, but I really hope we don’t keep Phillips. I know he’s in over his head as a top 4 D, but he’s pretty consistently giving away the puck for no reason or because of a small amount of pressure.

    Get something for him while he’s still has SOME value, especially with Karlsson, Methot, Cowen, Wiercioch, Gryba and Borowiecki on the books for next year.

    • Sensnation

      Phillips has a limited no trade clause again. I think if they were going to move him this year they would not have given him a new contract.

      • WaitingSince92

        FUCK, don’t remind me!

        • Sensnation

          My bad, they re-signed him to get more value for him this summer in trade ;) Better return than just trying to trade his rights :)

  • WaitingSince92

    Already talking about next season…damn.

    So this is what it must have felt like all those years to be a Leafs fan.

  • WaitingSince92

    Also, MacArthur needs a letter.

    Alfie’s locker must have endowed him with leadership skills. Seriously though, he’s gotta be the hardest worker on our team. Always hustling and setting a good example.

    • Simple Jack

      turris deserves it too, but it doesnt make sense having two guys with letters on the same line.

      • WaitingSince92

        Love Turris, but Macarthur is more consistent (maybe just because he’s older, but still…)

        If everybody fore/backchecked like Clarke, we’d have ourselves a crazy team.

        • puckoff

          How about Methot for a letter?

          • WaitingSince92

            Methot was a lot more consistent last year than this year, but I think he’s letter material.

            Always thought the hate on Condra was just from ignorance (sorry that sounds/is condescending). This may be unpopular too, but Greening has been great the last couple of games. I think he really DOES turn it up for bigger games. He’s been doing it all the last few games, except scoring (you try racking up points playing with Neil and Smith).

          • Sandy

            One thing I noticed with Greening last night.. on a giveaway in the O zone, he holds the puck too long.
            He isn’t skilled enough to dangle around like the elite players.. he should just get rid of it sooner.. off the boards, in the corner, or on net..

          • puckoff

            Every team needs players like Condra and Greening. The Oilers of the 80′s. the Wings of the 90′s and the Sens of the early 2000′s all found out that you need grit and heart. You can’t have all skilled players.

          • puckoff

            This is awesome here! I was posting on the Ottawa Sun, but it was controlled by trolls. Any Sens fan was harassed and personally attacked. I just sent an email to a few fellow posters from there telling them to join

            I’m guessing trolls aren’t tolerated here?

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            They Oddly enough seem to have very rarely found here

          • puckoff

            Nice! If they do find their way here and harass people, are they banned?

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Welcome to the site… At times we bicker but for the most part it’s a fairly decent sized group of above average knowledge-based fans that discuss things daily (sometimes the same thing for days)

          • puckoff

            Thanks :) It seems like a fun place. i love talking hockey

          • Sandy

            I’m waiting to go on the Toronto Sun come the end of the season.. IF the Leafs keep falling in the standings… and out of the playoffs..

            And the Habs are put out early in round 1..

            Don’t worry, we will have our say..

          • puckoff

            Actually, if you want to get them at the Toronto Sun, show them the difference between Seguin and Kessel. Seguin is better than Kessel at the same age.

            Seguin is 22 and he is playing first line minutes. With the Bruins he was getting 2nd and 3rd line minutes

            At 22 he has 30 goals and 39 assists in 65 games. That’s 69 points and he is a +14.

            source: http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/player/tyler-seguin/careerstats/816184?q=tyler-seguin

            Kessel at 22 had 30 goals and 24 assists in 70 games. He was a -8 and he had 54 points.

            source: http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/k/kesseph01.html

            That means that Seguin has the same # of goals in 5 less games than Kessel did at the same age.

            Seguin also has 15 more points than Kessel did at the same age, even though he has played 5 less games, so far. Clearly Seguin is a far better player at 22 than Kessel was.

            laff fans never mention how good Seguin is. If they looked at the facts, they would see that just straight up, Seguin is the better player at the same age.

            Add in Hamilton and the 2nd round pick and it becomes even clearer.

            There is a perfect example of a short term fix that will probably prove wrong. Would the laffs have been better off with Seguin and Hamilton and the 2nd round pick? We will know that for sure in a few years.

          • Zelle

            A Habs can from work came strolling by from work today, without me talking to him or saying anything to him at all about the Habs at all this season, and started asking about how everyone’s mood was (I sit next to a Leafs fan). He said “As a Habs fan I’m doing great, and as a Leafs fan you must be doing pretty good. As a Sens fan…” He seriously makes me hate Habs and Habs fans. He was also at my desk after every game last playoffs complaining about the officials and saying how the Sens were just lucky. I can’t wait to see the Habs crash and burn in the playoffs this season.

          • bluebuyyoo

            Next time, pull his sweater over his head and let him have it :-)

          • Zelle

            If only! I told him that I never come around his desk to gloat about the Sens and rag on the Habs, and he said it was because there was nothing to gloat about as a Sens fan. I corrected him in saying it was because I wasn’t a douchebag. He talked to my coworker a bit and then left. Didn’t come back either.

          • puckoff

            It’s funny how habs fans forget that the Sens won 4 out of 5 games and that 2 of the games were by 6-1 scores!

          • Zelle

            I know right. He was full of excuses during that series. And blamed Price. And also said that Sens started the line brawl and refused to admit that Habs got pounded.

          • bluebuyyoo

            I have the same issue with Flyers fan at work. We talk hockey, but he always rubs it in when the Sens lose. I usually ignore the barbs and talk about something else.

        • Sensnation

          Mac is pretty much what we all wish Condra and Greening could be! Hell even Michalek sometimes.

          • Jacques

            I know what I wish for Condra and Greening!

    • Sensnation

      Give him Karlsson’s!

      • Don Ciccio

        I would give him Neil’s or Spezza’s

      • Jacques

        You have no clue what hockey is all about, this team should be built around Karlsson. Not Cowen and Spezza the two guys you’ve been babying all year!

      • FistsofNeil25

        Last I checked Karlsson didn’t have a letter. Listen, the guy has had a brutal season defensively, but look at the three fella’s currently wearing the letter’s an you’ll see a captain that was a no-show for the first half of the season and who has never shown an interest in playing on the defensive side of the puck. You’ll see a guy who’s a fringe NHL defenseman at this point in his career, and a fourth line grinder who spends more time in the penalty box for stupid penalties than he does making an impact on the ice.

  • Sandy

    Haven’t read all of the comments to know if this has already been posted..

    http://www.senatorsextra.com/main/clarke-macarthur-to-senators-fans-we-have-a-lot-of-respect-to-earn-back

    • Sensnation

      Great article! I think everything Macarthur is mentioning are elements you’d expect to be inconsistent in a young team. It really speaks to the maturity of this young team and how much further they have to grow to compete game in and game out for a full 60 minutes.

      Hopefully this season will be the harsh lesson that drives home the point to this young team.

      • Sandy

        I think McArthur has earned a lot of respect from Sens fans for speaking up.. frankly.
        I think a lot of fans will be upset if he is not re-signed..

        • Sensnation

          Agreed, he does still have another year though. And I think the fact he bothered to speak up like this shows he’s committed to the at least immediate future of this team.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Yeah, at this point he is honestly my highest priority I think.

            Hell who am i kidding, I am going to be upset to lose any of those three.

      • puckoff

        Most people forget how young the Sens are. Turris, Zbad, Hoffman are all under 24.

        Wein, Cowen,Karlsson and Ceci are all under 24 also

      • Sandy

        He did say one thing that really stood out to me.. They thought it would be an easier season as to how they played last year with the ‘stars’ out with injury.

        • Sensnation

          It’s funny, but media, fans, coaches, gms and now we learn the players all thought this going into the season. Can’t just show up, have to work for success!

          • Jacques

            Yeah, and their Captain only skates going forward and not coming back!

          • puckoff

            I think a major factor might have been the 5 key Sens injured for most of last season. Spezza said it took him 20 games to adjust back to game pace.

            That would have made it around Dec, and that’s when the Sens started playing well. Jan they really picked it up. then the Olympics happened and the Sens regressed

    • runningbear1974

      Great article… I wonder who Maclean was accusing of using too much of their “skill” and not enough of their “effort”… Who could he be talking about? Is it Turris? Is it Zibanejad? Is it Macarthur? Is it Ryan? Have these guys been using too much skill and not enough effort? Nope… Not those guys…

      • Sandy

        Karlsson? Spezza? I support both of them.. but at times…

        • runningbear1974

          Yeah… I don’t know what to say… I sympathize with the coach… He’s trying to build a solid team… A cup contending team…

        • Jacques

          Listen, Karlsson has the go to produce offence and most of it comes from his puck movement, the problem, I’ve seen is a coaching one! When Karlsson goes a forward has to stay back, but what the hell there never is a forward laying back to defend, all year this has been happening with odd man rushes going the other way. If he takes the puck and goes where’s his support. The coaching has been brutal! Not Karlsson’s fault at all. Not to mention for half the year his partner was a guy who can’t skate. what was the thinking on that one!

          • runningbear1974

            1) We lost almost all our games with Karlsson and Methot together… That’s what we did after Olympics… Put them back together… Putting Karlsson with Cowen worked… That happens to be exactly when we started playing good (also Ceci came up same time)

            2) We can totally develop strategy around Karlsson… That is an option… But, that is not what any of the good teams do… You need a team strategy that everyone believes in… A kind of team identity… Our identity is whiny skilled whiners…

  • H POTTER

    Off subject here…watching the tor tamp game and a leaf player for hit just like kadri did on ceci…I don’t think I have to tell you how concern all of tsn is, the fans etc…when their own player nailed Ceci, I’m sure they were all cheering good hit…bunch of low life loosers

    • puckoff

      I just watched the hit. You are right. it is the exact same hit as the Kadri hit.

      • H POTTER

        What I dislike about the league, they penalize and sentence with respect to how the player gets injured which is absolute crap. The tougher guys won’t get the call going their way.. makes no sense. So if I’m bigger and can take a hit and get up, then I don’t get the boarding or charging call…

        • puckoff

          Yep. Plus a player shouldn’t have to be injured to get the call. That type of hit will result in a broken neck or a death someday. It’s very dangerous

          • Zelle

            This. x1000

          • puckoff

            to tell you the truth, I think the NHL has it backwards. A player should be penalized , and then if the other player is injured,the offender should have the injury time, added onto his penalty time or suspension.

          • H POTTER

            So true

    • Zelle

      Your post brings up angry feelings about Kadri.. lol

  • runningbear1974

    This team needs to get away from a “skilled” leadership, to a work ethic, grit type leadership… I’d take wise leadership too if that were an option…

    • Zelle

      You can be skilled and have a work ethic. Toews is my favorite captain. Skilled, level headed, work ethic, positive attitude, he has it all. Young too. I also like Backes though.

      • runningbear1974

        Yeah, lets get one of those guys… Or train someone on our team to play like that…

        • puckoff

          Zbad. Hard worker, hits forechecks. Lazar. Did you watch him at the WJC? He was the best Canadian

          • Jacques

            I like Zibby’s game, was sad to see him lose ice time to guys who don’t play a complete game! Lazar can’t wait!

          • runningbear1974

            That’s the sad part of this year… Not enough effort on our youth development…

          • puckoff

            Good points, Jacques and running. It was ticking me off all season that the Sens were sitting 2 young dmen a night and playing Phillips.

            The young dmen need to play to develop.Same with Zbad

          • runningbear1974

            I agree 100% about Zibanejad… Can’t wait for Lazar too… Here’s my controversial statement… I hope they don’t learn bad habits from our veterans…

    • senskarlsson57

      That’s why we really need to put Neil as captain ( heart, soul, and grit!). Obviously trade Spezza for an up and comer like Wojtek Wolski, and have Zibanejad as our number one center with gritty wingers like Neil and Greening. We’ll be at the level of LA in no time.

      Oh yeah, also get rid of that softie Karlsson. Anyone with eyes will see that Cowen is the future of our defensive corps as he seems to be developing into a more mobile Chara!

      • runningbear1974

        I’m talking about leadership… Our identity… Sure have skill… Just don’t make that our identity…

      • Jacques

        Neil, he has to go too, enough with the dumb penalties and he can hardly keep up anymore!

        • senskarlsson57

          That was sarcasm dude. I completely agree…as hard as it is to believe, if you watch closely it’s Neil that kills the beloved Greening-Smith-Neil line.

      • bluebuyyoo

        I would get rid of Zib right now. He is likely to develop into a skilled leader too.

        • runningbear1974

          He also has grit… The problem is not the skill… It’s when it’s just skill, that’s not good enough… Need skill with effort and intelligence…

        • puckoff

          Loul!

      • puckoff

        Karlsson is a franchise player. On TSN, they talked to several players who had the same injury. They all said it took them at least a year to 2 years to recover.

        The only way I would trade Karlsson is for a proven #1 pick and even then something would have to be added. Picks or prospects

      • SuperSENS

        Oy.

      • puckoff

        I really like Cowen I think he is having a bad year because he missed most of last season and all of training camp. I think he will be a force in a few years, But Karlsson is a generational talent

        • senskarlsson57

          You realize that was complete sarcasm based on the naive comments made by some Sens fans over the past few seasons. (Although a bit exaggerated)

          • puckoff

            O, sorry my bad :) Actually, Cowen is pretty good offensively. Karlsson and Cowen should be a good 1 line pair in the next few seasons

          • senskarlsson57

            I actually think can be a really solid d-man for years to come, he just needs a bit of an attitude change. Seems to have a sense of self-entitlement, but has seemingly started to come back down to Earth after the recent scratches. Our real problem on D is basically everyone outside of Karlsson, Methot, Cowen, and Gryba. Fill in the rest for next season…

            Karlsson-Methot
            Cowen- ?
            Gryba- ?

          • puckoff

            Claussen has to be given a shot. Borocop also. Wein has lots of potential.

            Claussen was + 37 last time I looked

            I think Phiillips should be a 7th dman just used for injuries or occasional games

  • Shibal

    Puempel with another powerplay marker for his 24th of the season; This kid is probably the real deal once he figures the NHL out.

    • puckoff

      Nice! Stone and Prince have been on a tear lately. Do you know if they have points?

      • Shibal

        Stone has always been on a tear which is why he has 36 points in 33 games. However Prince has been having a down year this year–which is why he is playing wing on a third line.

        • puckoff

          According to the AHL streak list, Prince had 6 goals in his last 4 games. Stone had 7 points in his last 4 games

          source: http://theahl.com/stats/statdisplay.php?type=streaks&season_id=43&tournament_id=0&division_id=-1

          • Shibal

            I guess his recent streak has helped him. However majority of his season has been dissapointing relative to the other second or third year players on this team.

          • puckoff

            I correspond with AL Willing. He writes for a Pens blog. He mentioned on the Ottawa Sun that prince has asked for a trade. Do you know if that is true?

          • Shibal

            Not sure. Everyone heard about his trade rumours during the trade deadline. Who knows; They might try to trade him during the draft along with some other players to a get a first round pick maybe.

          • puckoff

            The Sens do have too many dman. They have to trade some. I wish they hadn’t resigned Phillips

        • Jacques

          Yeah but recently Prince had something like 19 points in 17 games and Pageau has been close to a point a game. The Baby Sens have out scored most of the teams by 30-50 goals this year. Only a couple of teams are near them in scoring!

    • Jacques

      I remember when he was drafted Bob McKenzie said that we was the best pure goal scorer In the draft.

      • Shibal

        I think it was Craig Button actually. McKenzie was not that high on Puempel during the draft. Anyways; Puempel has been scoring consistently ever since getting on a line with Stone and Da Costa.

        • Jacques

          No! McKenzie was high on him, it was know it all McGuire who questioned his skating ,

          • Shibal

            Mckenzie had like 6 other players who were actually second round draft choices ahead of Puempel during the draft(Saad, Rattie, Grimaldi, Jenner).

          • Jacques

            Listen to the clip friend.

            http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JTFDGeZgxoA

        • puckoff

          I would love to see that line next season. Stone, Hoffman and DaCosta. I know Hoffman is a centre, but he has played wing

          • Jacques

            Hoffman has been DaCosta’s left winger all year!

          • puckoff

            Yep. Plus since all 3 have played together in Bingo. They all ready have chemistry.

            That line would have everything. Hoffmans speed, Stones grit in front of the net and all 3 are great passers

          • Jacques

            Agreed, except we seem to like useless pluggers! I hope that philosophy changes!

          • puckoff

            I like Hemsky, Spezza and Zbad, Turris, Mac and Ryan. That Hoffman line would be a great 3rd line

            Smith, Neil and Greening or Condra or Milan could be a 4th line

    • Jacques

      He was the CHL rookie of the year his first year in junior and then got hurt in his second year! Glad to see the Sens slowly work him up the ladder, he could be a real diamond in the rough!

    • puckoff

      According to the AHL.com Bingo lost 2-1. Stone and DaCosta assisted on the PP goal.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    So I decided to watch the Leafs Tampa game and that Ranger hit was just like the Kadri hit on Ceci and they got a 5 minute major and just now Van riemsdyk clipped Bishop in the head (exact same hit that Spezza had on Price which was called a penalty) and no call. I really think the refs hate the Sens

    • Jacques

      Been happening all year, it’s disgusting!

    • puckoff

      I guess the refs know that only Kadri is allowed to make hits like that

  • Zelle

    Is CMac not on twitter?

  • SuperSENS

    Unrelated to the Senators, but I thought this was a cool gesture for the Sharks to do.
    http://www.tsn.ca/bardown/Story.aspx?A%2bnight%2bof%2bemotions%2bfor%2bSam%2bTageson%2bin%2bSan%2bJose&id=446715

  • Zelle

    lol nothing Sens related but since there are others here watching the Leafs game, gotta laugh at that dive by Gleason.

    • Zelle

      JVR complains to refs about the non call. 1min of play later, gets called for holding in the last 4mins. Hrm…

  • Dirtysweetness

    MacArthur is becoming my favorite player after what he said today in the media.
    Self respect is key.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Lost in this horrible final quarter of the season that the Sens are having is that the Leafs seem to be beginning their annual free-fall. They’re 4 points up Washington and the Caps have a game in hand and 5 points up on Detroit and the wings have three games in hand.

    Nothing would make me feel better about the Sens season than to see the Leafs miss the playoffs. Please hockey gods, make it happen!

    • puckoff

      Tru dat! Even if they do make the playoffs and don’t win at least 1 series, that would mean that next season, the laffs would be starting their 2nd decade without a playoff series win!

      Do you know what every laff fans says when they think that? Only 37 more years to go!

    • Aaron 2.0

      I’m probably alone on this, but I’d still rather see Detroit miss this year. Now, if they could both miss, I’d be cool with that too!

    • MethotToMyMadness

      At this point, I’m over the Alfie to Detroit thing. My hatred for Toronto is much heavier, so I’m all for Detroit making it, giving Alfie a chance at the cup, if that means Toronto misses the playoffs. You really think Detroit, if they make it, will get through more than a round? I don’t, so I don’t see the harm in letting them play.

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    Nice to see the Leafs losing
    They could be out of a playoff spot by mid week
    Hope Ranger is ok, but that wasvey similar to the Ceci hit, except ofcourse they get a penalty called

    It will be interesting to watch the leaf vs hab game saturday, the reffs wont know who to cheat for.

  • thirstytraveller

    Agree Ranger hit = to hit on Ceci.
    A thought here. I know Spezza is a good to pretty good faceoff guy, but with his back issues causing skating paralysis, should they not move him to LW? Spezza-ZBad-Hemsky. Spezza over the last two seasons has worked hard on his shot and I’d say he’s changed his game to more of a sniper than playmaker, which he was earlier in his career.
    With the remaining games the Senators have nothing to lose by sticking to some out of the box experiments.