Game Day- Alfie Returns

SensChirp December 1, 2013 192
Game Day- Alfie Returns

As much as I want to focus this game day post on an important match up between Division rivals, it’s pretty clear what everyone will be talking about tonight when the Detroit Red Wings visit the Ottawa Senators this evening at the Canadian Tire Centre.

After 17 seasons in an Ottawa uniform and for the first time in his 18 year playing career, 40 year old Daniel Alfredsson will line up with the other guys.

It’s an important night for Sens fans as we get our first real opportunity to say Thanks.  After a sudden off-season departure that left both player and organization bickering back and forth in the media, it will be nice to put the off season behind us and instead focus on all the good things Alfie did for this team, organization and community over his 17 year career in the Nation’s Capital.  While the Sunday start is a little strange, it means that the game will have a National audience, all tuning in to see what kind of reception the former face of the franchise receives.

I trust that Sens fans will do the right thing.

To his credit, Alfredsson certainly isn’t downplaying the significance of tonight’s game.  Far too often a professional athlete will suggests “It’s just another game” but Alfie isn’t even pretending.  Tonight’s game is going to be weird for him and he knows it.  With many friends and family in attendance, Alfredsson knows that it’s going to be one of the more emotional games of his career although most of that emotion is likely to come out during the pregame tribute.

Because really, once the puck drops, it is just another game.

The Senators are coming off an ugly home ice loss to the Vancouver Canucks and are hoping that a match up with the Red Wings will help get them back on track.  The Sens have a 2-0 record against the Wings this season outscoring them by a 10-3 margin.  So while the Return of Alfie is likely to steal all the talk leading up to the game, there is another important two points on the line for the Senators.  They’ll need to put together a much better effort than we saw on Thursday against the Canucks.

No morning skate for the Senators but here is how they are expected to line up.

MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
Michalek-Spezza-Zibanejad
Conacher-Smith-Neil
Greening-Grant-Condra

Methot-Karlsson
Phillips-Corvo
Borowiecki-Wiercioch

Robin Lehner gets the start for the Senators. Puck drop is scheduled for just after 5:30 PM but if you’re headed to the game, remember to get to your seats early as the tribute video will be played before puck drop.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Happy to see Weircioch back in. Lehner deserves the start. I think he’ll be facing Gustavsson on the other side of the ice this afternoon.

  • Mark

    Loved Alfie as a player and hopefully he gets a good reception. After this hopefully everyone moves on. Getting tired of hearing how fans “owe him”. He made a great career here, made a lot of money and the organization and fans benefited too. Everyone should be happy with that, but no one is owed anything. I miss him as a player and I wish him the best. Still, I would like to see him take one hard hit from Neil.

  • luckan20

    Go Alfie Go……..until the puck drops.
    Go Sens Go……once the puck hits the ice.

    Truly looking forward for the much awaited return of our former captain and especially the video tribute right after the video tribute.

  • Mehadi Kalam

    so, the day has come.

  • Calvin Richards

    Is a video tribute played before the game, while people are buying beer and hotdogs, and going to the washroom really much of a tribute? Not that I care, but a ceremony at puck drop (presenting a piece of art to him and his family, for example) would seem a little more sincere…I think there are still some hard feelings from the Sens, not that I blame them…

    • laffin681021

      I think they’ll save that ceremony for when they retire his number. Now isn’t the time for that IMO

  • luckan20

    Sens chirp, apart from the Alfie return any news on player movements. We are in a precarious situation. Most NHL teams have games stacked up in December and this month will decide whether the Sens are in play -off or not. We don’t have a top pick and looks like a team is sitting in 12th spot in the Conference. Only Jackets, Isles, Panthers and Sabers are below us. It is going to be a do or die December.

    Sens have 16 games in December. We go 0.500 we are done with our play off chances. Therefore, we need to win at least 11 games.

  • Mr Hockey

    If anyone has a stream of the opening ceremony please post it! thanks

  • LeafsSux

    Very classy ceremony! Sens fans ROCK!!! Noe Go Sens Go!!

  • luckan20

    Lehner is the only difference so far

  • Floridasensfan

    ugly power play

  • Floridasensfan

    We need to start playing better than this

  • luckan20

    Not a bad period. Our defensive play so far has been good with few blemishes from Cowen. Cowen needs to get physical game elevated, which will give him the confidence.

  • Aaron 2.0

    After the video celebration it sort of felt like a funeral at the CTC. At least that was my impression from TV. Who died? Pretty even period. Lehner kept them in it, especially on those short-hand chances. The team needs to give him something back in the 2nd. The defense is pretty scary without Methot. Weircioch had a good period though.

  • luckan20

    very poor in face offs. we need to win those zone time.

  • LeafsSux

    Stick a fork in this team….. :/

  • Eugenius

    This team looks like it’s in year 1 of a rebuild…not year 3.

  • Luc Wolfe

    Not a bad game. No bad goals against. .. we just need 2 veterans in this lineup

  • Eugenius

    Thank God for Clarke MacArthur

    • Floridasensfan

      Got to give some serious credit to 9MM as well

      • Luc Wolfe

        Yeah for sure

      • Eugenius

        Yeah he needs to continue crashing the net

  • luckan20

    Guys are getting some energy off MacArthur goal

  • luckan20

    MacArthur in Spezza line.

  • Floridasensfan

    We got a game now, we come out like we finished the period we can take this.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    This is depressing. Because the Sens really are a good team.

    • Floridasensfan

      yea then they give a gift like that

  • MikeS

    Anyone know why methot is sitting tonight? injury or HS?

    • Floridasensfan

      flu

    • luckan20

      ill

  • Colin

    and now we get put to sleep with Detroit now playing not to lose. Dump it out. Dump it out. Dump it out. Dump it out…

  • MikeS

    The most frustrating thing about watching the sens is they seem to have no desperation to win….

    • Eugenius

      It’s embarrassing. Tough team to get behind these days…

  • aegiszx

    Can someone tell me why our PP sucks so effing bad? Im tired of making excuses for our shiitty PP and need some new answers…

    • MikeS

      I think it has something to do with phillips playing on PP1

  • Calvin Richards

    Did the fans in attendance boo or cheer Alfredsson?

    • luckan20

      during the video tribute standing ovation.

      • Calvin Richards

        I’m assuming everyone? Wow. That’s a bit surprising…

  • Floridasensfan

    come on boys, Turris on the point with Karlsson please and knock it in

  • luckan20

    Now 4th PP opportunity. Waste for us because we have no plans of what to do

    • H POTTER

      Feel sorry for the fans at CTC. Pathetic 4 wins at home so far . . unacceptable

      • Senators Pundit

        The atmosphere in the CTC is terrible and you can’t blame the fans one bit. The Sens just refuse to play hard at home, you spend $100 and 2 hours in traffic to see your team phone-it-in and lose time and time again. Just unbearable. Not sure how many more times I can do it this season.

    • Floridasensfan

      sad power play, WTF is Chris Phillips doing on the power play again.

      • Miguel

        that to me is a sign that we have given up on this team!
        Chris Phillips is a 7th d-man anywhere else in the NHL, yet he starts our PP… terribly concerning for me!

  • H POTTER

    This one is about done. Now even the ref are helping put a nail on that game

  • LeafsSux

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • MikeS

    Just wondering everyone’s opinion. Are the sens as bad as their record or will they finally break this slump. I have thought all year they were just slumping but when does a slump become the teams true caliber?

    • H POTTER

      Now! They are who they are..going to bed now that’s how fed up I am

    • SENSible

      Too many useless players, Cowen, Weircoch, Conacher, Condra contribute nothing pretty much every game.

    • LeafsSux

      This team needs a new identity.. Along with 4 new defensemen 3 new forwards 2 new asst coaches and 1 goalie….. I bought a 3 game pack before the season and now wishing I hadnt. Oh well ill be there next Saturday hoping we at least show up against the Leafs..

    • Aaron 2.0

      Well, they have played as bad as their record is. I know that’s not really what you’re asking. I think their defense is close to the bottom in this league, even on paper. After Karlsson and Methot, this team is very thin at the position.

      • MikeS

        They really went all in on JC/PW which failed really hard….

        • Aaron 2.0

          Agree 100%. And, really, that has to be put on management. Trusting 2 inexperienced, young D to play consistent top four minutes really is a recipe for disaster, IMO.

          • MikeS

            Hindsight is 20/20 but imagine if they didnt sign Greening and gave ferrence 3.5(i know .5 increase in payroll). This team would be alot better I think if that had of been done.

            I dont blame murry cause you have to take risks to make a contender on a budget….unfortunately his risks dont seem to be paying off

          • WaitingSince92

            Don’t think you can put it all on Murray. Even if he gambled on
            Wiercioch/Cowen being top-four-able, he can’t fix that gamble beacause all we can afford is so-called “depth” (happens to be Corvo) instead of a $3.5-4M veteran D who can log real minutes.

            So whether you chalk that up to Eugene or our small market, it’s tough solely put the blame on Murray.

          • Aaron 2.0

            I’m not necessarily putting it all on Murray. There’s a lot wrong, and it’s not just one missing piece. But, i’d be surprised if somebody in management didn’t speak up to say ‘what happens if Weircioch (only 51 GP) and Cowen (Missed almost 1 full season w/ hip surgery; only 107 GP) struggle; they don’t have very much experience’. It just seems like management really miscalculated their needs.

    • Jacques

      Can’t be pesky when the Captain floats around. People in the crowd last night are finally waking up to how bad he is. It was comical, in a tragic way.

  • Luc Wolfe

    Change the goal song 5 hockey teams use it

  • MikeS

    Common, you can be pesky sens! plz, plz

  • Kielbasa

    This team has just forgotten how to win and compete. This season is all but over if they can’t win at a consistent level. And Spezza…if he can’t learn to lead…pass the C to someone who can.

  • luckan20

    Alfie scored and picked the puck too. According to TSN, Alfie has scored against all 30 teams.

  • Luc Wolfe

    I just dislike melnyk even more. After that interview their’s no hope for the team in the future

    • Luc Wolfe

      Having a 8-10 million lower cap you lose 1 great player and one okay or 2 good player s.

      • Jacques

        So if we can only have one good player, lets not have it be SPEZZA Cuz he sucks!

  • 65kwhissell19

    sry hate to say it but I don’t really feel that it was the players who lost this game. 4 goals on 22 shots seems that’s a game that should of bin a 2-1 win

    • Sensturion

      I hope you’re not blaming Lehner for this. He had no chance on any of those.

      • Eugenius

        Another poor defensive effort

        • http://www.Merchaholic.ca Merchaholic

          Cowen was letting people walk around him. Does this guy ever hit?

          • Jacques

            A real pylon, in the crowd it was laughable.

      • 65kwhissell19

        lehner is good. just saying 22 shots against that’s a game we want

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Yeah maybe if your team can play ANY Defence

      • 65kwhissell19

        are d was fine buddy 22 shots against looks goo. this team just needs a spark

        • CrazyFish

          22 shots but there were Red Wings wide open at the side of the net, what is Lehner or any goalie supposed to do about that? He can’t play goal and clear the net at the same time.

  • Eugenius

    Interesting to look back on the recent moves by Murray…
    - Trade Bishop for next to nothing, keep Anderson (better trade bait)
    - Trade Silf (25G?), Noesen (high end prospect), 1st round pick (one of the best teams at drafting in the league) for a 35G sniper who lacks speed
    - Fail to re-sign Alfredsson
    - Lose Gonch, overpay Cowen
    - Corvo? Uh…
    - Inability to trade Milan

    The only move that I fully love is signing MacArthur. I know hindsight is 20/20…but still

    X (for Milan+Anderson), Spezza, Silf
    Mac, Turris, Alf
    Greening, Smith, Zibby
    Condra, Grant, Neil
    Meth, Karl
    Cow, Phillips
    Weir, Boro/Gryba
    Lehner
    Bish

    • 65kwhissell19

      gonch was garbage he is horrible this year as well. silf has only played 11 games and only 4 goals and he is soft traded for ryan draft this year weak.noesen is not a highend prospect and he out as well as silf. we won that trade!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Eugenius

        4 goals in 11 games is pretty solid lol…and he’s only 23. Too early to judge Noesen. If our scouts picked him at 21st overall, have to believe he’s a good player. If we finish near the bottom this year, I think you’ll be sad that we don’t have a decent draft pick as a consolation prize. I love Bobby Ryan, just playing devils advocate. No questioning the fact that we gave up a lot to get him. We shit on Eugene constantly…ultimately though, Murray has brought us here and so far (this season) it isn’t great. At all.

  • Conor_smythe

    This team has so many issues

    when we fix one thing, we forget how to do 5 others

  • http://www.Merchaholic.ca Merchaholic

    Can we win 2 in a row sometime this season boys?

    • Eugenius

      Would be nice…they’ll have to do that more than a few times moving forward if they plan on making the playoffs

      • LeafsSux

        Playoffs?! Did you say Playoffs?!!

  • luckan20

    We need major shake up. This team can’t get it done.

  • Floridasensfan

    That is a loss that hurt, seems like the team is in disarray from the owner on down, coaching has been horrible this year, I have no idea how you can change lines shift to shift, put players like Phillips Neil Smith Condra on the power play and expect to see something, if those are our best options we are destined to bottom feed this year.

  • WaitingSince92

    When Phillips/Corvo are a PP D unit, you know your team is hurting for capable Dmen.

    • Sensturion

      Well considering Corvo is/was a PP specialist… it’s not too bad, considering.

    • SenaTHOR

      As a budget team you need to accept that they are NOT likely going to be overly competitive.

    • Mike

      Again, the problems facing this team have nothing to do with the powerplay at this point, and everything to do with poor defense and undisciplined play.

  • SensFanInMTL

    It may be time for a rebuild. Nobody wants this but there’s no alternative anymore and this is getting to annoying to witness anymore – the losing that is.

    • Sensturion

      Why does no one understand this concept…. WE ARE IN A REBUILD!

      • Aaron 2.0

        Well, we were suppose to sort of be coming out of the other side of a rebuild. At least, that was the expectations of fans and commentators alike. It’s starting to look like we are all wrong. It looks like it may be time to consider an extended re-build plan. But, this will become clearer as we get closer to the trade dead-line and get a better sense of where will finish this season.

      • Luc Wolfe

        Easy the team told us it wss a 3 year process the team success of last year went into the playoffs this year we aren’t going anywhere and likely missing the post season. On the ladt year of a rebuild you either make or barely miss the playoff. Getting eliminated early December isnt an improvement.

        • Sensturion

          Last I checked, Ottawa wasn’t eliminated. Though disappointed night in and night out, I won’t give up on the team until it’s mathematically eliminated.

          • Luc Wolfe

            I know but I think a trade would of help. Now don’t tell me you need a dancer to make a trade at the amount of money these gms are making they have no excuses. We aren’t eliminated but hopefully the owner ship does something cause the team has no desire or has the skill to match the rest of the league

          • Sensturion

            A trade would be fantastic but unfortunately, Murray’s hands are tied. All Murray can trade for (unless a GM is incredibly stupid) are underperforming players. We have more than enough of those. Then, if a GM is willing to trade, he doesn’t want Ottawa’s underperformers, he wants the big guns. Asked NYR about Del Zotto? They wanted Methot (Not gonna happen). Ask Winnipeg about Kane? They want Karlsson (Not gonna happen again)…

      • SensFanInMTL

        Are you sure bud?

      • 65kwhissell19

        really were did we see a rebuild we made the playoffs that year and that was it. zib is pretty well the only piece off that rebuild 6th overall pic.

      • Mike

        You’re right, Sensturion. Last year was a fluke, due to the shortened season and the lack of play outside of our conference. I think if the team had been forced to play a full season and against opponents in the West, they probably wouldn’t have made the playoffs.

    • 65kwhissell19

      if it is its the best time for one since next years draft is sapose to be a big one.

  • Floridasensfan

    Bryan Murry must just be beside himself that his hand are tied, He must be counting the days till he gets out of office.
    I think there is a rift in the organization starting with the owner.
    I listened to Melnyk interview and it felt like smile and lie every time he opened his mouth.

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      It’s ok. Timmy Murray will be the GM if he doesn’t ge the heck out and head to Buffalo. Then he can deal with unca bry bry’s mess.
      Yeah I can’t stand Melnyk either, what a waste of time that guy is. Please sell the team already so we can compete.

    • 65kwhissell19

      ya you can tell he was full off it its bs really don’t no what he thinks

    • Bob

      You think spending more money for who is the answer? We can/could have spent to the cap and we’d still be in the same place in the standings, then what? Waive players!! Spend More!! Get more Crappy players and over pay them!!
      ya.. that’s the answer

  • Millennium

    I was at the game today, rinkside. The Alfie tribute was great, and I’m happy I was there for that. But what came after that was weak.

    It is quite obvious that the problems facing this team are systemic. They aren’t playing as a team, their positioning is all off, none of them are playing in the same system. There’s no rhyme or reason to their breakouts, guys are getting in each others lanes, there’s no communication, and there’s a serious lack of urgency in their play. This is all coachable and fixable stuff, which begs the question, why hasn’t it been fixed?

  • sprucesens

    i’m thinking its time for waivers. Nobody is making a trade, and there isn’t much left to do. Either time to give up on the season or make something happen. I say we finish the rebuild. I won’t name names, but there are a few players that need to be shown the door. And a few that still have trade value that are just not doing anything for us. Bigger names. If playoffs aren’t a vision this year, thats fine, but we better be aquiring some more talent to finish off the rebuild. Which means making room for our up and coming talent. Make something happen murray!

  • aegiszx

    Lets hope the guys can turn it around on the upcoming road trip to Florida… The Panthers are some-what decent with Thomas, and the Bolts are trying to move on without Stamkos. Could be an easy 4 points, but you never know with this team…

  • luckan20

    Easy 4 points. I doubt it. We can’t play with confidence. There is a good chance we can win either or both or lose against Panthers and/or Tampa. Although we are a young team, our guys can’t skate, no grit, lack of confidence and top most inconsistent team.

    It is highly likely 4 teams (Isles, Panther, Sabers and us) fighting for the rock bottom status in the Eastern Conference. Only ironic is that we don’t have a top pick. Therefore, we better pick up our game and earn a play-off spot or move some overrated players for solid picks/prospects.

    In my opinion, some thing has gone wrong in our 3-year rebuild. Yes, we lost a leader and Silfverberg, Noesson & top pick for Ryan.
    Not bad, but will Ryan stay with us after next season ?????? If not, we are screwed and BM would have retired by then.

    • Eugenius

      Bobby better stay. No one in our system can replace him. Truthfully, Lazar, Ceci, and JGP are the only exciting prospects at this point. Bobby will be looking for something similar to what Kessel got, I would imagine. I’m sure Eugene is excited about that…..

      • sprucesens

        puempel, hoffman, claesson and prince would all beg to differ. But yes, hopefully ryan stays. He is exactly the goal scorer we’ve been missing for years

        • Eugenius

          They can beg all they want…can’t see any of those guys being impact players (especially not anytime soon). Hoffman, MAYBE…

    • iKarly65

      I think Bryan Murray will retire next season. Tim Murray’s drawing interest for an NHL GM position right now, and while I doubt he does leave the Sens for that job, the Sens have been grooming him for that position here, which I think is the only reason he’d stay. That said, I think Bryan takes a supervisory role and Tim takes over as GM next season. Otherwise, if he doesn’t get that promise from the Sens he might leave.

  • Phoenix

    I really hope Murray can find a way to get our 1st back by deadline day. Maybe a couple of 2nd rounders if we are a fringe playoff team. Never been a big fan of moving 1st round picks. Today is not the first time Melynk has gone on public record as saying he would spend money in the right situation. So what does that say about the lack of movement.

    • sprucesens

      yeah, the longer he handcuffs murray, the farther away we fall from contention. I’m starting to think there is just no trade to be made, unless its one of spezza, cowen, anderson leaving. And even then we are probably getting low ball offers. My guess is waivers time for someone, if for no other reason than to clear $. Makes room for a callup too

      • SenaTHOR

        Trading these guys when their value is low is like trading in your car with four flat tires.

        • Luc Wolfe

          Trading spezza when hes almost a point a game is still high value. That being said im not ready to part ways with this guy.

          • SenaTHOR

            There are a lot of factors to consider

            When your 12 mill under the cap, IT DOESN’T MATTER. YOU WONT BE AT THE TOP.

            When MANY guys are on high contracts yet underachieving IT DOESN’T MATTER.YOU WONT BE AT THE TOP.

            When your not willing to waive players and eat some cash, or lose a player for no compensation, IT DOESN’T MATTER.YOU WONT BE AT THE TOP.

            When defence is up to the defencemen.IT DOESN’T MATTER.YOU WONT BE AT THE TOP.

        • sprucesens

          waivers doesn’t cost money if the player gets picked up, which is what I was implying. Since no trade was available, old news now anyways

    • iKarly65

      The lack of movement is because the owner says he’ll pay if the deal makes sense (i.e. a young, star player) and the reality that to acquire one will take a lot of resources that won’t make sense for the Sens to trade. Some of the players that would make sense, like Evander Kane, Eberle, etc. would require trading some of our star players, like Karlsson, Turris, Zibanejad, Lehner… so do you really want to do that?

  • Jacques

    Was at the game, very happy about the tribute to Alfie. It was well deserved. Karlsson couple of amazing rushes. For the rest unfortunately the beat goes on. Cowen, Greening, Condra and SPEZZA! Brutal! Murray fiddles while Ottawa burns. Make a move.

    • Bob

      I’d like to start a petition, more like a muntiny on our captian. REAL tired of watching that man skate like he’s teaching a 2 yr old.. He’s constantly skating back to the bench with his head down like he’s about to get yelled at…. and he knows it! Slow to bench, slow into the zone, slow to the puck… blah.. blah..blah.. same old, same old. If anything… (and in the voice of the guys from Mythbusters) Well.. there’s your problem!!

      • Jason

        Don’t forget the no look passes and drop passes to the other team.

        • Bob

          Oddly enough, the stats show he’s not the worst.. but that’s not it either.. Lack of heart is. how can you get motivated, when your very own captain ISN’T??

          • Jacques

            He’s been on the ice for the most goals against of any player in the NHL. That makes him bottom of the pile of some 450 players. WOW – 7 Million well spent. Show some pRIDE dude!

  • hq8

    the coach complains about hard work and work ethic and the fans complain about melnyk’s budget……….

    the questions on my mind are that when alfie said he thought he had a better chance with the wings:
    1)how much did he believe his own statement

    2)and more importantly, what was it that he saw that NO-ONE else saw that made him come to that conclusion.

    also, outside the two wins in detroit against detroit and the win against Boston sens have not shown that alfie’s dumping (re-his SC statement above) did anything to spark them.

    yesterday was a chance for spezza to put the final stamp on the team, that its his team. it would have been a message for everyone that regardless of the teams struggles, this is his team now. yes, alfie had great years of service and he is missed, but he is not needed in the locker room as a player, as a leader. with one more frustrating loss at home, the questions about leadership only grow louder. i think his captaincy is starting to become a failure already.

    it sucks to say, but the sens are done. they are 7 pts out in an overcrowded eastern conference with no signs of righting the ship. i dont think you can blame melnyk for that. you can blame him for not spending so we could go past the 1st or 2nd round, but you cannot blame him for a roster that is ridiculously underachieving against the expectation they themselves have set.

    • aegiszx

      I think people are looking too deeply into what Alfie saw… Honestly, it’s right in front of you. There’s no secrets…

      He wanted to play with his peers, instead of kids. It’s pretty obvious that he wanted to play with a veteran team that was coming over from a stacked Western conference. A team that has tons of experience, one that made a big mistake in the playoffs last year (but whoo! Hawks won!)

      He wanted to win, and no one doubts that the Red Wings will go deep into the playoffs this year. I’d be shocked if they werent the Eastern Conference Finalists along with either Boston or Pens.

      As for last night, i felt they showed too much respect to the Wings & Alfie to play their physical game…

  • SenaTHOR

    If they get can production from anybody outside the first two lines on a regular basis they will have a chance at winning. Team defence is usually alright outside a few breakdowns that seem to ALWAYS cost us.

  • Miguel

    ok so once again our Sens have surprised all the pundits and their fans, but this year it is the opposite of the last two years where no one expected us to be in the playoffs.
    As much as I hate to admit this, our fearless Coach is cracking under the pressures of a under acheiving team.
    How many times have we heard “we weren’t ready”… holy crap if you are getting paid millions and cannot get ready for an NHL game we are in very serious trouble, and that comes squarely on the coaches shoulders!
    Our D is plainly terrible! Aside from Methot, and 74, not one d-man has a clue or has any foot speed, or lack the strength to be an NHL d-man.
    Phillips- way to fukin slow to play beyond you 6th d
    Gryba- great size and strength, too slow
    Cowen- is even slower
    46- grow a fukin pair of nuts and use that 6’5″ 230lb body or get the fuk out!
    EK- great offensively, not strong enough in our end
    And for the love of God, if the coaches cannot tell the Phillips alone on our PP, is the best PK for the other team, they are damn blind,
    And to top that, with just under a minute our Genius PM puts out Greening, Neil, and Smith to finish killing our PP! What fukin message is this, “you are all so shit, that I am putting out a line that has less than 5 goals between them!”
    Sorry this is absolutely unacceptable, and the entire organization has let down all us fans.
    Start by firing whoever is in charge of the most vanilla PP I have seen since PeeWee and by putting out your best offensive players on the PP, this does not include Phillips or Neil, any 12 year old kid can easily tell you this!
    Finally, PM “we are not as good as we thought we were”
    well you made the playoffs, with an overall weaker team, so time to grow up and learn how to coach the stars of the league as well!
    This team may not make the playoffs, but WTF are we wasting PP time on Phillips who should be gone after this year, and not giving the experience to younger guys who will be with us for some time!!!
    End of Rant for now :)

  • Michenator

    My biggest concern is definitely lack of speed. Detroit did a great job last night of removing any time and space we had. I feel really sad about this team. I care so much, maybe too much! But when you watch a game like last night, the Sens look like they don’t give a heck and it hurts. This team should be young and exciting, yes making mistakes but also showing vitality and youth. To me we look like a team of unskilled, disheartened, softies. Gryba, Cowen, Methot, Boro, these three guys should be DESTROYING other teams, yet they’ve done nothing of the sort(accept a few occasions).

    We need to bring back the grit and start hurting other teams. Get in their faces and be tough to play against again. I think Gonchar being gone is probably our biggest loss(which I am surprised by) but we can make up for that if only our owner would let us make some moves. I would love to see Ceci called up for a couple games.

    I’m ranting, GO SENS GO, just please show up for a whole game sometime soon and look like you care.

  • Spartycat

    Can someone help me out and buy these tickets before I have to sell them to a Leafs fan!!!

    2 tickets for $160 total (I’m selling at under face value).
    December 7, Section 312, Row D, Seat 1 & 2

    Contact jinwint@hotmail.com if interested.

  • Hax

    Hoffman up, Grant and Borowiecki down.

    So as much as I hate to see Zibanejad dropped out of the top 6:

    Michalek-Turris-Ryan
    Hoffman-Spezza-MacArthur
    Conacher-Zibanejad-Neil
    Greening-Smith-Condra

    • Alcatraz

      Stupid, why move Zib when he is producing in top 6

      Zibanejad-Turris-Ryan
      Macarthur-Spezza-Hoffman
      Michalek-Conacher-Condra
      Greening-Smith-Neil

      or if you want Zib as 3LC

      Conacher-Turris-Ryan
      Macarthur-Spezza-Hoffman
      Michalek-Zibanejad-Greening (Basically swapping Zib into Spezza spot in our 1st line 2 years ago)
      Condra-Smith-Neil

      • Hax

        I agree and if Conacher or Hoffman or someone else can step in at 3C (or 4C and leave Smith at 3C) then that’s better. Just not sure if anyone can do that. Zibanejad was probably our best player yesterday.

      • Senatollah

        Zibanejad-Turris-Ryan
        Macarthur-Spezza-Hoffman
        Michalek-Conacher-Condra
        Greening-Smith-Neil

        that is a much better lineup. Could even swap mac and zbad.
        Michalek has to go. Way too slow. Cant step around anyone anymore, must be very hard for him to suit up knowing he cant go anymore.

  • Senators Pundit

    Boro down? Srsly?

    • Alcatraz

      Dollar in, Dollar out – We call up Hoffman we have to send people down. Also we don’t want to cripple Bingo by having their best players in Boro, Gryba, Hoffman, Grant all up here at same time

      • Hax

        I don’t think they care about crippling Bingo. It’s the fact that the only guys they can send down without waivers are Boro and Grant (or Zibanejad but that ain’t happening). I agree that Grant and Boro are not part of the problem and actually are playing quite well – but short of a trade this is the only thing they can do to shake things up.

        And there clearly are no smart trades to be made or they would have happened. Remember folks, we’re still in a rebuild here. Last year was a case of overachieving and making the playoffs was more due to good luck and insane goal-tending than an indication of where the team was actually at.

        I know some people feel we should just dumb guys like Greening, Cowen, Anderson etc and let younger guys take their spots now – but we’re not going to get any decent return on those guys (compared to their true value) and it would be stupid to give up on guys just out of some desperation move to finish 8th this year.

        Fix the real problems, develop our young guys and build for next year.

    • Miguel

      WTF???
      these two have almost nothing to do with the current terrible play, and can be argued are two of the hardest workers on a team with many underachievers who should be sent down before these two!
      I am sick of paying to watch,
      Greening, Cowen take regular shifts,
      Neil, Phillips on our PP, sorry but I am at a point that it will be hard to spend $200 to watch that crap!
      and sending down Grant and Boro does nothing to help that!

  • hq8

    i like hoffman. but could they not sit greening and play hoffman instead of sending grant and borocop down.
    borocop being sent down means more of Jared Cowen, which means sureshot losses as Cowen in 12 minute doses can commit enough mistakes to turn a game.
    Melnyk keeps saying the right deal bla bla. well the right damn deal right now is to sit some of the morons on this roster and bring up the Bingo players.

    • Alcatraz

      they can’t just sit Greening because that means we would be carrying Grant+Hoffman+Boro as extras from our opening day roster

    • Miguel

      Hell yah!
      lets teach these under acheivers by sending down the two hardest workers?
      go freakin figure
      Easy calls to sit out or even send down
      Greening – will not get touched by any NHL Team, hell even the AHL Teams will pass on this guy
      Cowen – can go down without clearing waivers
      And he needs plenty of help that only Luke Richardson can teach him.
      he is no where near the player he was at 19, he has lost strength speed and conditioning that cannot be taught in NHL games!

      • Alcatraz

        Cowen cannot go down without clearing waivers

        • hq8

          at this point, i think it hardly matters. he is firmly in first round bust zone right now and doesnt seem like he wants to leave it.
          thankfully, sens didnt sign him to a tyler myers type contract……..

          • Alcatraz

            you put Cowen on waivers and I can guarantee you 100% someone claims him
            I think he sucks right now, but he still has only 1 full season under his belt. Teams would totally by low on him

          • Miguel

            he does not have to go through waivers, and he needs help getting back to where he was, we will ruin him by continuing to play him when he has no chance to succeed, he needs Luke fo a few weeks!

        • Miguel

          I was under the impression that because he is young and with low enough games he is waiver exempt. Only issue is paying him in the minors… but that is nothing compared to buying him out if he contiues to play like absolute crap!

        • spezzerman

          yes he can. He is exempt until he plays 147 games. Im not scapegoating a young prospect like everyone else around here but he can and should spend some time in bingo – certainly over Boro right now.

      • spezzerman

        Miquel – where you sitting in section 306 row H (ish) for yesterday’s game???

    • Hax

      Google “NHL roster maximum”.

      And yes, they could only send one guy down instead of both but this is a stronger message this way. Everyone in that locker room knows that Grant and Borowiecki both deserve to stay in the NHL right now. They got send down simply because the team is playing poorly and there aren’t any other options.

  • LeafsSux

    Hoffman!!!!!!

  • Senatollah

    Was at the game last night. Anyone find it weird that the Patty Lalime tribute was almost as long as player 11 red. Why couldn’t Babcock keep player 11 red on the bench with the goalie pulled out of respect for the home team.

    • The Apostle

      Because his job is to ensure that his team wins not protect our feelings.

    • Jason

      Alfie is still my favorite Sens player even if he isn’t on the team anymore. I was happy to see him get a goal.

  • Hax

    On the game yesterday: I agree with an earlier comment that we showed too much respect to the Wings and didn’t play physical enough. I think it might have been due to all the diving last time the Sens might have worried that if they tried to get physical they’d get in penalty trouble. They should have done it anyway and not expected the refs to blow calls but I think that might have been in the back of their minds.

    I loved when they put Zibanejad up with Ryan and Turris. Two bruising forwards with hands and our best center.

  • Pasky

    Well this means that Zibby is out of Top 6 since we need him to play 3LC…. Wonder if they go with 3 lines evened out or if he gets stuck playing with Conacher/Condra/Greening/Neil combinations

  • FistsofNeil25

    Pretty happy about the Hoffman call up. He’s possibly the fastest forward in the organization and speed is something we’re lacking right now. He’s tearing up the AHL and has definitely earned this call up. It’s too bad his call-up came at the expense of Grant and Borowiecki. Both of those guys have worked their asses off while with the big club. I think Borowiecki has a pretty bright future with the organization. As soon as we get rid of some dead-weight on this team I’m sure Boro will be back up.

    • Jacques

      You’re right the first thing you notice about the SENS are the two slow bottom lines.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Now Zibanejad will be moved down the line-up to center the third or fourth line. Zibby has been the best and hardest working member of his line with Michalek and Spezza, and is arguably the best forward on the team right now not named Turris, Ryan or MacArthur.

    Hopefully Maclean rewards Zibby by playing him with two decent wingers, I really hope I don’t have to watch Zibby play shifts with either Neil or Kassian.

    What about this line-up for something different:

    Greening-Turris-Ryan
    MacArthur-Spezza-Michalek
    Hoffman-Zibanejad-Condra
    Conacher-Smith-Neil

    • Jacques

      How bout we send Condra to Switzerland for some fine chocolates, and put Stone in his spot?

      • Jacques

        And then send Greening back to finish his MBA in the Ivy League school of his choosing and bring up Andre Petersson – a little speed never hurt anyone!

  • Alcatraz

    lines from practice are awesome. Enjoy the pine Michalek:

    Zibanejad-Spezza-Macarthur
    Hoffman-Turris-Ryan
    Condra-Greening-Conacher
    Michalek-Smith-Neil

    • Senatollah

      Finally some balance in the line up. Smith works so hard, sucks he has to carry those two.

      • Hax

        Smith’s line will be the third line and both he and Neil play well in that scenario. Michalek should fit nicely and maybe simplify his game a bit.

        The wingers are inverted above but I do like those lines.

    • Jason

      Condra-Greening-Conacher line looks horrible. 3 guys that can’t score and don’t play physical at all.

  • MethotToMyMadness

    Zibanejad has been one of the most consistent players on the team since coming back from Bingo. He’s earned every minute and more, happy to see he’s been practicing on the top line.

    Happy Alfie got himself a Standing O. As much as we’ve had debates about what the fans would do, I never expected a rain of Boo’s. I would have been upset as a Fan if that happened. Class Act!!!

    Michalek, Michalek, Michalek. It’s unfortunate you’ve been having a hard year offensively, it’s even more unfortunate that you are being paid the highest of all players on the team this year. That sets you up as the Sens new whipping boy.

    Man, if one some of Ottawa expected buys were playing as expected this year, things would be looking much better!

    • yawn

      No Knees Michalek’s NHL career is done.
      He’s just hanging on for those last few pay cheques.

      • Jacques

        So is bad back Spezza – we should donate their bodies for medical research!

    • MethotToMyMadness

      I should reply to my own comment. Michalek, when I say hard time offensively, I mean scoring goals. 10 A’s isn’t too bad, but you only have 4 goals, tied with the likes of Neil and Smith. It’s time to settle in and get yourself back on the goal scoring side

    • Jacques

      Michalek was actually one of the better players yesterday. Trying to do all of Spezza’s back checking too.

  • s3nsfan

    i think that calling up Hoffman was a good idea. This team needs more speed. Unfortunately there are rules that only let you keep a certain amount of players. Yes it sucks that Boro and Grant had to be sent down, unfortunately, what are you gonna do, waive Michalek and pay him $6M in the minors, maybe YOU would but with the budget this team is under, Melnyk will not. So Murray is doing what he can.

    I like the way MacArthur looked with Spezza last night and hope they keep them togeter for a chunk of time.

    Zibanejad-Turris-Ryan
    MacArthur-Spezza Hoffman
    Condra-Greening-Conacher
    Michalek-Smith-Neil

  • sprucesens

    most importantly, this likely means Hoffman is here to stay. He would have to clear waivers, and many teams would likely take the chance after seeing him tear it up in bingo. I still think a trade is coming, likely a month before the deadline, like murray always does. Hopefully the 2 for 1, 3 for 2 kinda scenario. Need to make room for more guys like Hoffman that actually want to play hard! like the lines except for greening at center. He should be the wing, with condra gone and grant at center. But we needed room, so I guess grant is gone. O well. I’m sure we’ll see him soon enough

  • MethotToMyMadness

    Hoffman will have to stay, any sending down does mean waivers and he could be signed elsewhere. Now, it could also mean a good display for a possible trade too. If anyone of Ottawa’s Bingo guys would be getting a review, it’s Hoffman. But I would imagine some teams want validation he can do in the NHL, what he’s been doing in the A, to a degree. We know BM has already rumored to have offered a few others, which got turned down. On the flip side, if that’s not true and he does come up and do well, we get his production for the remainder of the year.

  • WaitingSince92

    I like the look of the new lines. Been waiting for MacLean to try MacA with Spezza for a long time now. I think it can really work.

  • PalladiumDrive

    There really is no reason to support this team if it won’t support itself! Hard to say that, but really, Melnyk is disloyal and the players don’t seem to care. It’s bad from top to bottom. It won’t get better with Melnyk’s current position. We don’t spend $ for entertainment, we spend $ to have a vested interest of our own in the hockey team’s success. Even the accidental billionaire Melnyk can understand this.

    Fans need to stay home until the owner supports the team properly and stops using it to fund his other losses. It’s not fair to the paying customers that the owner is not putting the best possible product on the ice.

  • Tim

    Very happy for Hoffman! He has worked his tail off down here! Hope he is given a good chance in Ottawa because it seems some on this board would want him traded instantly if he didn’t have 3 hat tricks in his first 2 games!

  • Tom P

    Hey guys, do any of you know a good reliable website to order jerseys off of, need to know asap haha thanks !

    • Tom P

      Oh and like cheap if possible, like don’t want to spend full price but still want it to look kinda authentic qha

      • bluebuyyoo

        Just google “nhl replica jerseys cheap” and the hits keep coming. Beware. If it’s cheap,I doubt the website is reliable.

        Maybe give kijiji a go? There are always plenty for sale locally.

      • Alcatraz

        dhgate.com

      • Jason

        Just wait for the Sens store to have a sale, they do it a couple times a year. And they sell off old jerseys at discounts usually.

  • The Apostle

    Lazar is the world junior selection camp, Ceci isn’t.

    • spezzerman

      Ceci is too old? he will be 20 in a few weeks

  • Shibal

    Interesting Zibanejad fact: Before being demoted to the fourth line, he had 4 goals in 9 games( 33 goals in 74 games pace). That pace slowed down obsviously, while he was playing fourth line minutes, but now since being promoted back into the top 6 he has 8 goals in 19 games( 31 goals in 74 games pace). If Zibanejad continues playing like this on the wing, I really hope he never goes back to playing center. I mean he had only 7 goals in 40 games as a center last year; really don’t understand why you guys see him better as a center than a winger. He absolutely dominates when playing wing, which he showcased in both the world under 18s and world juniors.

    I remember a couple years ago, Tookie was ranting about how Zibanejad had never shown any kind of dominance in any level of hockey he played in statistically, including the j20 league. However a guy in in the hockeyfuture board made a very compelling comment about Zibanejads play in the j20 before he was ever drafted by the sens:

    “His(Zibanejad’s) stats are fine in juniors. His coaches have commented on them saying
    that the only reason the may seem bit on the low-side is that he takes
    the responsibility of the center position deadly serious. Not taking any
    risks defensively. They let him play on the wing for a while and he
    immediately scored plenty. Very good shot as Kennholt mentioned, I’ve
    heard from another player as well that he has the best/hardest shot in
    the mens team.

    His stats for the SEL are exceptional btw. Only two players at
    Djurgården have ever scored more at his age, both playing considerably
    more games (Josefson and Bremberg). I’d say that the hardest thing to
    predict with Zibanejad is his ceiling. That because he really is a work
    in progress, every game we see him growing.”

    If anything I hope Zibanejad becomes a winger like Evander Kane in the sen’s future, and Curtis Lazar becomes the future second line center. Good compromisation for both players i think.

  • Millennium

    Excited to see a top 6 that is + Hoffman and – Michalek. Hopefully Spezza steps up his game playing with Mac and Zib.

    our D being down Methot and Boro does not bode well though.

    • Alcatraz

      Well Methot is just a flu, so I’d imagine he is back for next game

      • Millennium

        Yeah, listed as uncertain, though he made the trip. Just saying, if he does miss another game, it’ll be a trainwreck on the back end

  • gds

    have heard the sens are kicking the tires with a few teams, carolina, new york rangers washington…heard the name of marcus johansson and del zotto and those are 2 playerss ottawa is kicking around options with…of course all comes down to the money, that my boss said he would pay if they had to

    • Millennium

      Your stuff is always accurate, which makes it exciting to hear that they might really make a move for Johansson, although the timing with the Hoffman callup is odd.

    • sprucesens

      marcus Johansson from Washington, or ryan Johansson from rangers? would love ryan, marcus so so.

      edit, nm i’m dumb. it was brassard that moved, not Johansson. lol

      • Millennium

        …it says Marcus right in the post. And for what its worth, he’s having a stellar season

        • sprucesens

          yeah I know, just was confused because for some reason I thought ryan was in that trade to the rangers. But it was brassard. Just got to thinking since he mentioned Johansson and del zotto in same sentence, so my mind made up some extra stuff, and thought marcus was just a misprint

      • CohMa

        Ryan Johansson plays for Columbus

        • sprucesens

          yeah, I edited above. I got confused with brassard as the big piece that came to NY in that trade.

    • sprucesens

      Johansson looks like he might be a decent pick up. Young swede with decent offensive numbers every year. Not sure who we’d have to send that way, as he looks to be a promising player. Don’t want to let go of any of our prospects. I think Washington would be dumb to let him go for the penuts we’ve made available. Go Murray GO

      • sprucesens

        Johansson only makes 2 mill for this year and next. I wonder if we would be sending michalek and a D for him. Would free up a TON of money on our end. Would be the only player I could see them wanting from us that isn’t a prospect. Maybe gryba or wiercioch as the extra for taking on so much money. And some extra money coming back. How about….
        Michalek + Wierioch for Erat + Johansson…? 6.5 hit coming in, 6.3 out. Shedding of actual salary I would suspect with michalek making so much this year.