Busy Days Ahead for Senators

SensChirp June 30, 2014 606
Busy Days Ahead for Senators

After a surprisingly quiet draft weekend, the Senators now shift their focus to July 1st and the start of free agency.  With a lengthy To-Do list sitting on his desk, these should be a busy couple days for Sens General Manager Bryan Murray.  Here’s a look at some of the things Murray has on his plate this Canada Day.

1) The Jason Spezza Trade

After all the rumours and speculation this weekend, Jason Spezza is still a member of the Ottawa Senators.  Murray had conversations with a couple teams and even had a deal in place with the Predators.  The deal was believed to include forward Patric Hornqvist, the Predators first round pick and possibly defenceman Mattias Ekholm.  Of course that deal was nixed by Spezza as Nashville is one of the 10 teams on his no-go list.  Dealing Spezza remains a priority for Murray this week.  The thinking is that teams that miss out on Stastny in free agency will shift their focus to Spezza.  St. Louis, Chicago, Dallas and even Colorado are all involved.  An interesting thing to keep an eye on- CapGeek seems to suggest that Spezza can submit a new list of 10 teams on July 1.  Does he leave the same teams on there or adjust the teams based on who he knows is interested?

2) Adding a Free Agent Forward

The Senators have talked to a couple forward options already and seem reasonably confident they’ll land at least one free agent when the market opens tomorrow.  With Hemsky gone and Spezza on the way out, there are openings in Ottawa’s top six.  It also looks like Michalek could head elsewhere although he’ll give the Senators a chance before signing elsewhere.  Plenty of interest in Michalek though so the 2-3 year deal at $3. to 3,5 mil a season likely doesn’t get it done.  But if Michalek leaves, it means that money is available to spend on another forward.  I’m expecting Ottawa to come away with a couple players through free agency.  The market isn’t overly loaded this year but there are some decent options out there. Some of the name I’ve heard speculated include Mikhail Grabovski, Nikolai Kulemin (although he’s likely headed to Pittsburgh) and David Booth.  Bruce Garrioch mentioned Matt Moulson and Martin Havlat in his most recent article.

3) An Extension for Bobby Ryan

This one has people on edge and rightfully so.  Ottawa fans have watched star players walk in previous years but Ryan leaving would really sting.  Especially when you consider the handful of assets Ottawa gave away to land him last summer.  People I’ve spoken to seem to be a little bit divided on this issue but I do expect the Senators to get this done.  This will be a priority for Murray and his staff on July 1.  The big thing from Ryan’s perspective is seeing that the team is making a commitment to building a competitive hockey team.  The Senators have had far too much negative PR recently could use some good news.  A long term extension for Bobby Ryan would certainly qualify.

4) Conversations with MacArthur, Methot and Anderson

Like Bobby Ryan, these three are all eligible for extension beginning July 1st. Ottawa would certainly like to keep MacArthur and Methot around but have to make a decision on Anderson.  With Lehner waiting in the wings, another lengthy deal for Anderson probably doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.  The conversations with MacArthur and Methot will be anything but straightforward.  MacArthur will be looking for a raise from the $3.25 on his current deal and same goes for Methot, who is earning $3 million a season on his current contract.  Both players have shown an interest in coming back and you would expect Murray to at least start those conversations once the window opens tomorrow.

5) RFA Robin Lehner

This one has been a work in progress for the last month or so.  The two sides have talked about a few different options on an extension for Lehner but in the end, it really seems like a bridge deal makes most sense.  Lehner may be the back up right now but over the next couple seasons, he’ll be expected to take over the starting role in Ottawa and will be looking for a contract that acknowledges that elevated role.  Pierre Dorion has mentioned on a couple of occasions that this contract is going to get done but that it may take a little more back and forth.

  • Max2166

    Thanks for the update Chirp. It will be an interesting few days. Seems to be good news about a Bobby Ryan extension. Hopefully BM will get it done. MacArthur and Methot should be resigned. Grabvoski or Moulson would be great additions to the team. Go Sens Go!!!

  • Chaps

    I think the encouraging thing in all of this is that Murray is at least admitting that they need to add 3-4 forwards. So he’s at least conceding that the team has some serious holes to fill.

    I’m not overly excited about Grabovski, Booth or Kulemin. Matt Moulson would obviously be a nice pick-up, or perhaps Jussi Jokinen? So I’m thinking that if Michalek comes back, we can probably expect 1-2 free agent signings, plus whatever we eventually get for Spezza. If Michalek doesn’t come back, then we’re probably looking at a guaranteed 2 free agents at a minimum.

  • senate19

    I can’t help but think after Stastny is taken, the market will open up for Spezza, and Murray will will get a better deal.

    • Tooks

      They wont, thats the issue here. Would you give up a premium to get scraps, after Kesler, Stastny, Iggy and such, whats left… Spezza. Nobody will pay a heavy price to land whats left…

      I think Murray should have taken the first deals he received but he is too stubborn, says he loses no matter what in trading a guy like Spezza, well ok then, get it done regardless. Move on…

      • senate19

        I have to disagree with you – sounds like you’re referring to Spezza as scraps, and that’s definitely not the case. The easier, cheaper route is to sign a UFA, than trade for someone like Spezza.

      • Don Ciccio

        What a horrible GM you would make……So lets accept any offer just so that we can move on? No thanks, I’d rather keep him. Ana and LA are the two teams to beat right now in the West so teams like CHI, STl and Col are going to have to step up sooner rather than later.

        • Tooks

          They havent yet and they wont later. Its not like Spezza takes them over the hump, lol. Especially vs hard hitting checking teams like L.A., ANA, SJ.

          • Don Ciccio

            I guess we should just take Berglund straight up for Spezza right?

        • Lemondish

          Better to get some assets for him rather than letting him walk for nothing.

      • KJ

        You calling Spezza scraps? C’mon. Stastny is the chip here as he only costs money and not players.

  • Tooks

    I find it hard to believe that Murray couldnt get a deal done, refusing all those offers, his price for Spezza is obviously too high. Take a similar deal to the Kesler trade and be happy with it.

    Offers wont get much better from here on out. Stastny is the main ticket and probably what team are waiting for, then scraps for Spezza if anything.

    What do you all think of Murray’s indecisiveness on trading Spezza? Sink or swim.

    • SensChirp

      I think Murray is trying to accommodate Spezza here and work out a deal with a preferred destination. He sort of used that Nashville deal as leverage to set the bar for those other teams but in the end, was still leaving it up to Spezza to decide if that was somewhere he wanted to go.

      • Tooks

        I get that but it shouldnt be too hard to get a deal done to STL or wherever. Murray is holding out in hopes to get a homerun, the longer he waits the worse the offers will become. Teams will fill holes from elsewhere.

        • Sens613

          It’s a poker game the gm’s who are interested in Spezza think BM is bluffing his hand.

      • KJ

        I agree. He has said it publicly about trying to accommodate Spezza and at the time do what is best for Ottawa. And if not trading him is best, then that’s what will happen.

    • FistsofNeil25

      It’s unfortunately that they couldn’t get a deal done with Nashville. It probably won’t get any better than Hornqvist+Ekholm+11th overall. I have no problem with Spezza refusing to go there.

      I don’t know if Murray was really being indecisive. I think GM’s like Nill, Armstrong and Bowman are saving their best offers for if they miss out on Stastny. Whoever misses out on Stastny will up their offers but Murray better act fast to get something done before teams start looking for other alternatives.

      If Spezza isn’t traded by the end of the week I think Murray will have missed his chance to get the best return possible and GM’s will start to go in to vacation mode.

      • Tooks

        Yeah no kidding, fans thinking the offers will get better are on some very good “stuff”

    • EHMatt

      The Canucks had to take the Kesler deal because they only had 2 teams to work with. In this case 19 teams can all make a pitch. I’m glad the Nashville deal didn’t go through because it wasn’t as good as we can get for Spezza. St. Louis is under immense pressure to get offense. If they don’t land Stastny, then I’m sure they will ante up. Murray is playing this very well. He’s not just giving up a high-end offensive centre for nothing. Stastny is not a better player than Spezza, he was getting even more flack from fans in Colorado than Spezza was here. The only reason he’s more attractive is because teams only have to pay him, they don’t have to trade for him. Once they miss out on him, the bidding war will begin. I’d rather see Murray take a pick and a high-end prospect than the 3 assets he’s asking for. Quality over quantity.

  • FistsofNeil25

    It’s too bad they couldn’t move Spezza before July 1st. It would have been nice for Murray to have added a couple players to know what he really needs in free agency. Oh well… interesting times ahead.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    Chrip,

    It’s OK for you to say that we had a terrible weekend and the whole 13-14 season was a disaster.

    Hopefully things turn around starting tomorrow because I am not sure the organization has a lot more that can happen against it.

    We are in limbo right now and that’s the worst place to be.

  • WaitingSince92

    I think I feel a lot like Ryan, except as a fan – I want this team to prove to me that they’re committed to winning, because I don’t see that at all right now.

    Don’t think there’s anything that could stop me from being a sens fan, but Ryan walking would not help…

    The way I see it, Karlsson is synonymous to our ‘window’. We probably have about 8 years of him being at or near the top of his game. Now that he’s no longer a kid, I don’t want to see us wasting his prime in the name of “cost-per-point”. Bullshit.

    • WaitingSince92

      I worry more about the tolerance of our fans to put up with a “value” (aka losing) team. Ottawa, with its short history and small population just doesn’t have the mass devotion like TO or MTL, who could be perennial losers and still sell out every home game.

      • CUP 2014-15

        Unfortunately I could not agree more. There are the 13-14,000 that will be there night in and night out, I am one of them because I have been lucky enough in life to have earned more then my share. No franchise can last long with numbers like that and this team needs those other 6-7,000 seats sold. I still have faith in the core we have and in our GM. This will be a big summer for our team. Go get what we need BM and build us a winning team. Go Sens GO

      • Sandy

        Corporate seat holders. That’s the difference between Ottawa and Mtl & Tor.

  • Senswest

    I still think that if Statsny doesn’t sign with Col, they will try hard to get Spezza!!! It s probably their B plan and we might get a deal done of one for one!!! Spezza for ROR

  • my2sens

    Spezza.

    I am afraid this is going to be a losing scenario for the Senators and most importantly us as fans. This is going to snowball into a shitty scenario.

    29 GMs are being smart about this (IMO). They know Spezza wants out and therefore are going to continue to low-ball Mr. Murray. This way, 1 of 2 things will happen.

    A) We will trade Spezza at the deadline for scraps to ensure we at least get something back for him… or
    B) They will wait until the end of the campaign and pick up for free.

    This will result in several issues. Less money to spend throughout this year and scaring away talent and possibly even ruining the Ryan negotiations.

    I have been a fan of Spezza, but I must wonder where his head is at as well. He probably thought by wanting out people will line up for him and he can go where is wishes… but alas, he is still a Senator. Must hurt his pride.

    I do hope I am wrong and we trade him soon and for quality assets…. but it is hard to remain positive for some reason.

    Happy Canada Day to everyone!!

    Stay safe, party safe (and always remember his/her name at least until the following morning — so you can call a cab for them).

    • Wyzerd

      Chicago will try to convince Stastny to sign for less money in return for a really good shot at a championship. If that fails they will go aggressively after Spezza, putting Brian back in the driver seat..

    • Jakester

      Spezza won’t start the season in Ottawa give your head a shake – not a possibility! MaClean spent all year throwing him over the boards to prove that they can’t win with him playing big minutes. Murray will take a lesser offer if he has too. Don’t fool yourselves.

  • whammer44

    I think Grabovski would be a good pick up. I’ve always liked his game.

    His Corsi numbers are good. Both in TO and Wash when he’s on the ice his team scores more and has more puck possession.

    • Senswest

      I like Grab also and it could be fun when playing Toronto, not much Love there!!!!

    • Wyzerd

      I like him, though not sure how he’d fit on this team. 3rd line centre?

    • Sandy

      Just after the season it was rumoured that he and Kulemin want to play on the same team. Could that be Pittsburgh? Ottawa?

      Re-unite MacArthur-Grabovski-Kulemin

      Then put Stone with Turris & Ryan. Or Michalek slides in there in place of Stone.

      That gives the team 6 top 6 forwards (with Michalek) and they should be able to better compete for a playoff spot. Some of them not elite top 6 but they will fill the spots needed.

      Then you could try for a top 4 D in a Spezza trade.

      Fixes some of the problems anyway and would stay close to the 56M budget.

      Listening to Pierre MacGuire this morning he mentioned he was talking to Sakic and Roy at the draft. Their mode of play is all offensive.

      Now if they lose Stastny, Spezza would be the best fit there as he is all about offense.

      • Don Ciccio

        I’ve said it before but the best thing for Ottawa would be if Stastny signs with someone other than Colorado. I think Colorado would then go hard after Spezza and somewhat of a bidding war would follow.

        • FistsofNeil25

          The best thing that could happen is for Stastny to sign with someone on Spezza’s NTC.

          • Don Ciccio

            Yup, but if I was Murray and Melnyk gave the go ahead, I would go hard after Stastny just to screw over the other teams who think that they can get Spezza for nothing. I know that Ottawa won’t land Stastny but I would at least drive up his price.

          • KJ

            Absolutely. Pay out for Stastny and then drive Spezza’s price up through the roof. That would be awesome.

      • spezzerman

        They may want to play together but they dont have enough pull to demand that. They arent Suter-Parise.

      • Senswest

        I think Col will be the destination for Spezza if Statsny sign somewhere else!!!

        • Don Ciccio

          I agree with you

          • KJ

            I believe this also, but not certain he will leave.

          • Don Ciccio

            Not sure why he wouldn’t be signed already if he didn’t plan on leaving. Maybe Colorado wants to delay the signing holding things up for the other teams. Maybe Colorado was hoping that Spezza would be traded to the East and then Colorado would have announced the Stastny signing……Teams could be playing each other.

      • Tooks

        None of em will, they can just try and sign him next year for free.

    • Max2166

      And apparently Grabovski wife loves Canada. He would be great with MacArthur and we could stick to Leafland.

  • Sandy

    This entire issue with Spezza probably would not have happened if they would have given Alfie the 6M for 2 seasons he wanted. 1.5M more than what the Sens originally offered. A man that meant so much to the organization, to the community and what he meant to the fans. Isn’t your organization’s PR worth 1.5M. He is not worth 6M on the ice, but it cost you in way of your reputation and your #1 centre now wanting out of town.

    Spezza most likely would have stayed with Alfie still in the fold.

    Spezza wants to play with top 6 players, not Condra & Neil. We saw how good he can be with Hemsky. Most teams will want to do everything to keep the #1 centre happy.

    Some say we would not have had Ryan if Alfie stayed. Well if, as an Owner of an NHL team, you couldn’t spend 5M more on your payroll to up your budget to about 60M, then what business do you have owning a team.

    I don’t blame Spezza for wanting out. There is no way, after all that has happened in the past week or so, that he can start the season in Ottawa with all of the bad feelings floating around.

    I’m hoping Ryan gets signed tomorrow. I would assume that talks have already taken place. Sign him for 6-7 years for about 7M cap hit. MacArthur should be the next priority 5×5. Methot should get a raise but not a crazy one.
    As for Anderson I don’t know if he would want a short term contract. He’s probably looking at 4-5 yrs. The question is, do the Sens want to go that far out with him knowing Lehner will probably be a #1 in about 2 yrs?

    Lots on Murray’s plate for sure. Going to be a very short off-season for him.

    Looking forward to development camp sometime this week. I wish I knew when it started. Nothing has been mentioned.

  • Brock

    Greg Smith @Moved_To_Apathy
    Jim Nill just confirmed the #Stars strong interest in Spezza. Said as long as a hockey deal can be made, he’s interested.

    • my2sens

      Who would we target in Dallas?

      • aegiszx

        Thomas? Goligoski? Whitney?

        • Max2166

          Nishukin, Chiasson, Goligoski would be a great addition. I thought Whitney was a UFA.

          • Mitchell

            No to goligoski, well if we can then trade him to Nashville for Neal and Webber then that be okay.

          • aegiszx

            I would think Nichuskin is an untouchable piece now, as well as Chiasson…

      • Wyzerd

        Brenden Dillon, one of their centres, and 1st round pick.

      • Richard Gough

        This would be a good start

        JAMIE OLEKSIAK
        BRENDEN DILLON
        Dallas 1st

    • FistsofNeil25

      What does ‘”hockey deal” even mean though? In the past I’ve heard people refer to a hockey deal as a trade involving roster players, not prospects or picks.

      • spezzerman

        that definitely my interpretation but its a dumb term, I agree.

      • Chaps

        That’s what I’ve understood it as meaning too. As in, the purpose of the deal is to move roster players that address each of the involved team’s needs – as opposed to, for example, moving a player for picks for no other reason than to clear cap space (like TB’s moves last night).

    • Sandy

      Go big or go home. Trevor Daly (although he has a limited NTC), Brett Ritchie (prospect) a conditional pick in 2015 if Spezza re-signs.

      • FistsofNeil25

        Bryan made it pretty clear that he wants a forward as the roster player. Doubt he wants Daley. We shouldn’t go after him anyway. Daley will be 31 by the time the season starts. We need to target players that will be in their prime by the time our young core players are ready to hit theirs.

  • Mitchell

    How is Dallas or St. Louis anymore of a contender then Nashville? Dallas is building in a good direction but is missing defense and 2/3/4 line forwards. They have some good goaltending in Lethnon (sp?) and Prospect Goalie Campbell. St. Louis makes just a bit more sense with good Defense and the right mixtures of veterans and rookies. Yet Goaltending, is Elliot number 1 or is Allen number one? Good competition but that’s not LA, Chicago, NYR situation. And the deal for James Neal would of had us in the right direction, but I suppose if Heatley can do it, why can’t Spezza.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Yeah that’s a good point. I have no idea how St Louis thinks they can be a contender with Elliott/Allen.

      • BigTrev42

        don’t they have Ryan Miller?

  • spezzerman

    I was away for most of the weekend and wanted to add my two cents to the weekend happenings, or not happenings, as it were.

    Based on the twitter reaction I thought Murray really threw Spezza under the bus which after watching the 7.5minute post draft media availability a couple times really wasnt the case at all. He just reiterated that Spezza wasnt interested in Nashville “won’t go there.” He seemed surprised or frustrated he couldnt get a deal done but I didnt see anger towards spezza.

    I dont blame Spezza either cause its in his contract but there was also alot of twitter talk to blame management for giving him one in the first place. This is pretty naive of the peanut gallery to think GM’s willingly give these away. Players demand them and they get them or they dont sign. I suppose the fan base would have accepted Spezza not signing six years ago and going elsewhere because the team was not willing to give him a NTC. Give me a break.

    • Sandy

      I think the media made more of this than it needed to be. I guess it was more or less a slower news day with not the trades they expected at the draft.
      They needed to print something.

    • RUSH RLZ

      I’m in the same boat, just getting back from being stuck on an island in the bush all weekend.

      I’m with you 100% on the Spezza situation, don’t think Murray is pissed, just disappointed (of course) and harbor no ill will towards Spezz for turning down that offer.

    • Captain Karl

      Except for some dumb Sens fans immediately start comparing the situation to Heatley when there are no similarities at all and it doesn’t help that the dolts at the Sun are piling on.

  • Brock

    If we do trade Spezza to Dallas, do you think we could get Julius Honka in return? Seems like he could be a good partner for Karlsson in the future. Quick, agile defenseman. How likely is it that they deal him?

  • senate19

    Okay, I know this has been done before, but I wanted to do it right and see if I could make some headway.

    I’ve created a petition, I know, I know. .. just read it, and sign it if you agree.

    http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/eugene-melnyk-respond-to-the-fans

    • Captain Karl

      Oh Lord. Give up. He is not going to spend til the time is right. Do you see how many buyouts there are lately because teams spend aimlessly on stupid contracts.

      • senate19

        He is not going to spend until he has to. It’s not okay to just sit back and complain without doing something.

        • Sandy

          You more or less said what a lot of fans are thinking.
          We have no commitment from him that he will spend when the time is right. He has said in the past he will, but lately it’s all about development. Wanting to win the Cup has not come out of his mouth in the last little while.

          • senate19

            We don’t at all. The trade for Hemsky w/ the salary retention and Conacher going out spoke VOLUMES to this.

          • Deadly

            Says more about Edmonton than the Sens. Think they retained some of Gagne’s salary also.

          • whammer44

            Believe it is Tampa who retained salary. Their plan was to buy him out so they retained the cost of what it would have been to do that.

          • KJ

            No. TB is eating 1/3 of Gagne’s salary, not Edmonton.

      • SensChirp

        In today’s NHL, you do not get to build a contending team with the approach “spending when the time is right”. Just doesn’t work. You can’t retain talent if your approach is saving money. And certainly not in a less than desirable market like Ottawa. It just won’t work.

        • spezzerman

          so would you say the odds of signing Ryan this summer are…?

    • EK65

      Is there a way I can “dislike” this petition and remove a signing of it?

      1. He’s not going to listen to a petition from the fans. It’s his money, it’s his team. He will do as he pleases.
      2. 100 signatures wouldn’t hold nearly enough weight even if you hit that number.

      • senate19

        I never set the 100 limit, I’ll have to change that – and regarding point number 1, I believe public opinion could play a role – usually nobody wants to be a villain.

        • EK65

          I think Melnyk knows that Sens fans are upset. He can see that from season ticket sales. They are WAY down from the norm at this point in the year. He knows he has to give the fanbase something to be excited about, hopefully that comes with some more financial freedom to Murray tomorrow on July 1st to go out and get some players that will put us back into contention.

          Although, I’m okay with sucking again next year and getting McDavid :)

  • Mitchell

    Just reviewing with cap geek on roster players, prospects but I think the trade will go to Dallas because IMO statsny is going to st, Louis. When you have a chance to do what your father did and on the same team you do it. And St. Louis has all better pieces for the trade except a number one pick next season. Dallas Is sorta of a meh. Which I’m more inclined to say Dallas will have Spezza tonight. Just what we need more D options.

    • KJ

      Don’t discount Stastny going to Dallas. His girlfriend is from Texas.

  • Sandy

    Sad to see Cowick gone.
    Do the Sens have an ECHL team yet? They lost Elmira to Buffalo.

  • Anthony Pugliese

    What about Cammalleri as a free agent option? Any chance were interested?

    • Captain Karl

      Too small

    • Mitchell

      I think he also wants to finish on a contender. Though he has no problem playing in Canada

    • Brock

      Too expensive.

    • CUP 2014-15

      I don’t mind Cammy but BM has said all along that he wants big and aggressive so I don’t think he is anywhere near the top of the list

  • Senswest

    So if it come to trade with Chi and Sharpe agree to come to Ott, would you do a one for one trade of Sharpe for Spezza???

    • Wyzerd

      Nope, we need Seabrook…., or Sharp along with one of the younger D and we can through in Cowan.

    • spezzerman

      Personally I’d prefer a young prospect to an aging forward on the decline

      • Senswest

        I would prefer a younger prospect too but Sharp is still a very player that could help for a few more!!!

        • Andrews theory

          Also a guy you could flip at the deadline if you are so inclined

  • MethotToMyMadness

    As a Sens Fan, I’m a little frustrated with how things went at the Draft. Part of me is upset that Spezza wouldn’t consider that deal with Nashville, but he doesn’t have too so It’s really my own selfishness. Yes that’s just me being pissy. And we didn’t get a 1st round pick, but maybe that’s ok, because I would have hated seeing a trade made just to be made and get a pick, without getting a decent player in return. If we couldn’t have landed one of the top 5 in the draft, then it’s best we stay the course for now and see where things go. Who knows, a pick in next years draft could be on the table in any upcoming trades.

    I believe we’ll make a splash in the FA frenzy tomorrow, there is a need to replace an entire 2nd line. We can’t fill those holes internally, or we are in deep trouble. Top on my wish list for RW would be Vrbata, on C it would be Grabovski. On LW Moulson would obviously be a great addition, but I can’t see him accepting a contract here for some reason. So I’m thinking a guy like Jussi Jokinen or Cammalleri would be best options. All of these guys, would be great for the next 2 years, 3 if you can work something out. But considering our situation, I’m looking at 2 years.

    With Ehrhoff being bought out, there is a chance Ottawa could take a stab at him. I’d hate to see another overpayment though.

    • whammer44

      Don’t you think the Sens could have dealt for him if they wanted him since Buff has now bought him out? At $4M per season its not unreasonable.

      • KJ

        Bad contract.

      • Sandy

        It’s the recapture on the cap that the Sabres were worried about. Even if they traded him, if he retired before the contract ended, the Sabres would be on the hook for the cap penalty.
        Ehrhoff had one of those cap circumventing contracts that the league penalized.
        The only way around that was a buyout.

  • BMurray

    Should Ottawa look at Adding one of
    Niskanen
    Erhoff
    Jovo
    Boyle

    • Don Ciccio

      No to Jovo

    • Captain Karl

      The only one of the 4 I would consider is Erhoff but then we have to move 2 Dmen out. Niskanen will be too expensive, Jovo is done and Boyle is too old.

      • BMurray

        I am done with the Wiercoch experiment, and would look hard at moving boro….

        • PraiseAlfie11

          How are you done with the pw46 “experiment”? He played, what, 10 games?

      • Guest

        You Sir, blatantly copied my Avatar/name.. For shaaame

    • Senswest

      If you had anyone of them, you will have to trade a couple of our own def!!!

      Niskanen will be too expensive
      Jovo No
      erhoff Could be good
      Boyle would be interesting in Ott

      • BMurray

        OUR D is horrible, we need to make improve…. Luckily 2 years ago Andy stood on his head, last year he was regular and we got creamed…..

    • RUSH RLZ

      Jovo sucked 8 years ago! Niskanen or Boyle would be awesome. Erhoff could turn out to be decent.

    • Wyzerd

      Don’t need another over thill d-man, Niskanen is looking for a big paycheck, and Erhoff went with Buffalo to get a big paycheck last time around…. Yes to Erhoff, but someone will pay him good money, or he will prefer a contender this time around…

  • MethotToMyMadness

    If Nathan Lawson isn’t returning to Bingo, that’s a big sign that Hammond is the unofficial starter and a guy like Chris Driedger is ready for Pro. Should be interesting.

    • Sandy

      I guess they liked what they saw in Hammond. Lawson was hurt more than he played.

  • Senswest

    Driedger will be a good goalie for the B Sens, watched him played quite a few time the last couple of year and he looked very good!!!

  • Jakester

    Murray take the Dallas deal wakey wakey

    • Max2166

      I agree. Bryan Murray accept the Dallas deal.

    • Deadly

      Missed it,what was the offer?
      Oh any deal .

    • EK65

      The Dallas deal was supposedly: Chiasson, Ritchie and a 2nd.

      You want him to pull the trigger on that? Yeesh.

      • Doc

        Source?

        • EK65

          Just a rumor, not substantiated. But Chirp said that it was supposedly a Top 6 player, Forward prospect and a 2nd. That’s a favorable package within those parameters I think. They could have tried to deal us Peverly, or Cole too.

          • Doc

            Yeah, both Chiasson and Ritchie are RW, so I doubt they are packaged together.

            I agree that the basis for a favourable deal is there. Wonder who else could be available.

          • Sandy

            Unless it was not Chiasson and an older top 6 forward that Murray didn’t want.

      • Andrews theory

        That was the deal I proposed a few weeks ago (swap 2nd with 1st)

        Based on the return for Neal and Kessler, ya I’d take that deal. Lots of upside in Chiasson and Ritchie

        • Tooks

          I have a feeling Murray will fuck this up…Well he already has to some extent, refusing all offers…

          • Doc

            Wait, what? How do you know what Murray accepted or not? As far as we know, no teams made any serious offers except Nashville.

            I actually commend Murray for not settling yet. Tomorrow should be a big day.

          • Tooks

            Well he hasnt accepted anything so far, he said all offers were not good. IF any offer was similar to Kesler’s he should have taken it.

            The offers wont get any better the longer this drags on. Teams simply dont want to give up major assets for a 1 year rental. (exlcuding STL)

          • Wyzerd

            Spezza is a hell of a lot more than a 1 year rental. If he hooks up with a contending team and achieves chemistry, he will likely sign an extension rather than move again to another team.

          • KJ

            Agree with you here

          • Wyzerd

            Can you stick to somewhat factual responses rather than emotional diatribe…

      • spezzerman

        id prefer that to the Kesler return or the St Louis rumours. Two big young power forwards with tonnes of potential and a top 50ish pick in a deep draft.

        • Tooks

          2014 50th or 2015 50th?
          If its 2014 50th, thats terrible, might just want to forget the pick and add a prospect or roster player.

          • spezzerman

            yeah true, I suppose that offer was made for likely the 2014 pick. Still, I prefer it to the Kesler return or st louis rumours

          • EK65

            I believe the rumored proposal was before the draft and would have been a 2014 2nd. So yeah, brutal.

          • Sandy

            That was 10 picks past the 40th that the Sens picked and they were really happy with who they got at 40.
            A 2nd round pick in 2015 = a 2014 first rounder.

      • Sandy

        Make that Chiasson, Ritchie and a 2nd in the 2015 draft. Then take it.

        What’s he waiting for?
        St Louis to up the anti now they know that Dallas is after Spezza.
        Do it quick or Dallas may get another centre in FA.

  • Mitchell

    we want what st. louis will offer us. statsny is going there so we won’t receive. dallas will land spezza.

    • Doc

      I’ve been saying since the beginning that an Oshie for Spezza straight up would work, but I’m not sure STL would be willing to part ways with him.

  • Senswest

    I just hope that Murray can make a deal tomorrow not long after Statsny sign somewhere so he can focus and go after some of those UFA!!! Tomorrow will be interesting

  • Mark

    The fact that the organization is slandering Spezza throughout this entire ordeal is a joke. The organization is making an terribly veiled effort to pull the wool over their fanbase’s eyes. Losing three franchise level players in three seasons is the sign of a poorly executed business plan.

    • Doc

      Slandering Spezza?

      • Phil.

        Before this week, no one had ever said out loud he had a tendency to give the puck away.

        • Phil.

          or change only on the backcheck after a 75 ft slow glide ensuring the guy that comes on for him is out of the play.

          • Doc

            That’s not slander.

          • Phil.

            I was going for ultimate sarcasm in a Homer Simpson voice.

          • Doc

            Dang it, missed it!

          • Phil.

            My fault, it’s Monday.

    • EK65

      When did the organization slander Spezza? They haven’t. At all.

      • Mark

        This is what I believe is likely to have happened. Spezza asks about extension. Bryan Murray infers that the organization wants nothing to do with a Spezza extension. Spezza says, well in this case you should likely consider trading me. Murray thinks – perfect, this provides myself and Eugene with ammunition to launch the “Spezza has requested a trade” campaign – turning Spezza into the bad guy.
        How else could the organization mask the fact that arguably the teams three most prolific superstars have left the Sens in a span of four calender years?

        • Doc

          But that’s not what happened though.

          And that’s not remotely close to being slander.

          • Mark

            So what happened exactly then? I must have missed the announcement where the Senators and Jason Spezza held a press conference and agreed upon the exact proceedings throughout the summer. We haven’t heard anything from a primary source on the Spezza side, and likely never will.

          • spezzerman

            you need a scapegoat, eh? Spezza is looking at a new contract worth something in the area of 50M dollars. His camp is surely very protective of his brand right now and surely would speak up if they felt that brand was being de-valued.

            From what I have seen, Murray said Nashville has been the onyl team to come close but Spezza wont go there. This is known and it was spezza who put them there.

          • Mark

            Perhaps “shaping the narrative” is a better choice of words. My point is, the team is approaching the situation as if they have been wronged and Spezza has demanded a trade. In reality I think the team had no interest in extending him past next season. I’m arguing in favor of Spezza’s character.

          • spezzerman

            No one looking at this objectively would be questioning Spezza’s character.

            And two wrongs don’t make a right. “Slandering” management to make yourself feel better is no different from the scenario you created in your head.

          • Mark

            You are correct. Spezza has never been treated like a star or gotten the benefit of the doubt at any time during his tenure in Ottawa, why would I expect it to be any different now. I was hoping Spezza would be quietly and suddenly traded for a solid package, followed by a press conference explaining that the player and the team wanted to go in different directions. That would have been awesome.

          • spezzerman

            eyeroll

          • Mark

            Sheep.

          • PraiseAlfie11

            Nashville GM freaked out in the press, not BM.

            As for spezza wanting to leave over a lack of desire to spend, I’m waiting till july 5th (arbitrary date) to see actions, not speculation.

          • spezzerman

            Yep. Ryan isnt signing here if he isnt convinced this team is in it for a Cup and will do what is necessary to get there.

        • not YOUR wingman
        • Sandy

          It was Spezza who wasn’t going to re-sign that’s what Murray said. So he has no chance but to trade him now.

        • spgottawa

          3?

      • KJ

        Agreed. No such thing has happened.

  • Doc

    Remember how some of you thought we were getting packages like Josi + Forsberg + 1st, or Berglund + Shwartz + 1st? Yeah, good times!

    I guess reality kicked in, huh?

    • Captain Karl

      Are you saying it’s not going to happen. How the hell am I ever going to sleep tonight…..lol

      • EK65

        Seeing you in the comments section is confusing.

        • Captain Karl

          It shouldn’t be. I have a C on my jersey…lol

    • Captain Karl

      BTW…I’ve been saying Spezza+ for Schwartz and I think thats what we should be doing. Not quantity but quality

      • Doc

        It would definitely need to be Spezza +, but even then I think we’d have a better chance of getting Oshie than Schwartz. Doubt either happens though.

        • Captain Karl

          I could live with just getting Oshie at this point but definately would prefer Schwartz

    • Tooks

      Would def have to be Spezza + + for those to happen!

    • ProfessorPower

      I think a package like that is far fetched now based on what we have seen over the past couple days. Maybe we should be going for a one-for-one type of trade now, just get a good player who’s young and can fit into our top 6.

      • Doc

        That should have been everyone’s expectation from the start.

        None of the other nonsense.

        • ProfessorPower

          The asking price was a Top 6 forward, good prospect, and 1st..having people make proposals based around that fact is not nonsense. With new information peoples proposals/expectations have changed, seems logical. As well, the fact that BM has not made a trade and has been upset with the offers would suggest HE expected returns similar to the ones you have posted.

          • Doc

            The asking price wasn’t, but the actual trade proposals were.

            Very little of them were realistic expectations.

      • Sandy

        Kesler is a 2nd line centre. Spezza is a 1st line centre. Should be a different return.
        If St Louis & Colorado miss out on Stastny, as well as Dallas, I feel a bidding war.

        • ProfessorPower

          Ya I am really hoping Statsny signs elsewhere, could make things very interesting.

    • sprucesens

      Big difference now is ntc. Also it could still be a very good player. I disagree with the hornqvist return as they made that deal and still want the 1c. I assume Nashville is a no go now regardless, but I still feel we’ll get close to that type of return with less than a 1st though. Gotta give to get. If teams don’t give, they don’t get

  • Dirtysweetness

    Morning all!

    • Doc

      YOU’RE LATE

      • Dirtysweetness

        Lol..no school!

  • peetypuck

    If STL were to sign Stastny that would be the end of Spezza’s hope of going there. He would have to accept a trade elsewhere or be stuck playing in Ottawa next season.

    • Doc

      Which is why nothing will happen until tomorrow. Kesler is already off the market, and Stastny should be next. Then things should fall into place.

      • RUSH RLZ

        Problem is, by the time those chips fall and we move Spezza…. all of the other worthwhile UFAs will be *gone*.

        • Tooks

          Yep and with the minimal return on Spezza IF any at all, our team tanks (out of lack of talent) and we get Eichel or McDavid!

        • Sandy

          I think Murray pretty much knows that Spezza is gone. He has picked who he would want to sign as an FA, provided that FA wants to come to play in Ottawa.

      • peetypuck

        Hopefully Stastny signs right away. The suspense is hard to take.

  • thepez

    I saw on the tsn twitter feed that the Leafs may offer Bolland 5 years for 25 million and that might not be enough. If that is the going rate for a third liner then I’m glad that the Euge is watching the budget.

    • Tooks

      Thats not your regular 3rd liner tho, yes its still a bit high but your basically paying for the Rings…

      • Sandy

        The playoffs is when this guy shines. But Toronto has to get to the playoffs first.
        Apparently, the Leafs made an offer for Gorges. Be curious if it’s enough, if he waives his NTC.

  • Dirtysweetness

    The rumored offer from Dallas seems enticing. Chaission (former 1st rounder), Ritchie (1st rounder) and a 2nd round pick in a strong draft year.

    • SensChirp

      Was a second in this past draft, so 45th overall I guess? And no guarantee those are the two players being discussed.

      • spezzerman

        if it could get to that, and get a 2nd next year, that wouldnt be too bad.

      • Brock

        Jamie Benn, Nichuskin, 2nd.

        • Sandy

          No – make the Seguin straight up for Spezza.

          • Doc

            Any of the three mentioned names, Benn/Seguin/Nichuskin, would not be dealt for Spezza. We would need to add a LOT to get any of them.

          • peetypuck

            Agreed, the only way the Sens will get players of that calibre is through drafting.

          • Sandy

            It was a joke from me. He’s basically untouchable.

            Will Boston regret that trade?

        • zippy

          If we get that for Spezza, I eat my shorts AND my socks

      • Dirtysweetness

        Noted and my post adjusted.

    • Keregan

      To me Chiassion Ritchie/Faksa and 2nd in 2015( 1st if possible) is a way better package than Patrick freaking Berglund and all

    • Tooks

      Its a 2nd in 2014, which just passed.

    • Terry

      I will get my BM signature stamp and ink pad.

      • sprucesens

        I good you got it, was it on sale at staples?

        • Terry

          Regular price, but they threw in a EM stamp for free!!!

    • Max2166

      Jim Nill most likely made the offer knowing that Stasny will not sign with the Stars tomorrow.

  • SensChirp

    So if Spezza really does submit a new list on July 1st, does he now ADD the Dallas Stars, in an attempt to further force Ottawa’s hand and get a deal with STL or CHI?

    • spezzerman

      Why wouldnt you want to go to dallas?

      that would be disappointing considering his remarks following the Heatley fall out where he felt the player had an obligation to help the team…

    • peetypuck

      Dallas better step up to the plate today and make the trade.

    • Doc

      Maybe, but wouldn’t that be counter-productive for him to get traded? He wants a say in where he goes, but he can’t tie the hands of Murray too much or it will backfire on him.

    • Phil.

      Unless he absolutely hates Dallas, he has to be careful to not kill all his options. He won’t know where Statsny goes, I assume, before submitting the list. CHI may not have the cap space and if St-Louis sign statsny, Spezza could get burned.
      Edit: I am sure his agent will give a call to Statsny’s to get the scoop.

      • peetypuck

        Apparently he loves the Dallas Cowboys.

        Edit: He could be known as JS.

        • Jakester

          No surprise that he likes that Loser team! lol

          • Tooks

            Cant deny that they were pretty good when he was growing up probably…

      • Tooks

        He doesnt and would accept a trade there.

    • RUSH RLZ

      Maybe but…. what team comes off the list? ;)

      • Aaron 2.0

        Based on who has shown interest and who hasn’t and the fact that Murray probably wouldn’t want to trade in the division, it probably wouldn’t be too hard to find a team where there is little-to-no chance of him being moved to (and take that off the no-trade list). I guess there’s always a gamble though.

    • Aaron 2.0

      Would be fascinating to find out (maybe it’ll leak). It would seem risky, though I wouldnt’ be surprised if his agent pushed him to make decision like this. He has to be mildly concerned about the potential for this to drag out, even if it is remote. Murray has at least shown that he won’t just take anything, and Spezza must know that it’s not a seller’s marker, at least at the moment.

      • Tooks

        He is interested in Dallas. Murray refused the deal.

        • Aaron 2.0

          Care to elaborate? There was a no-trade list that showed Dallas on there a few days ago. We were all confused by that, as we thought that we basically had the list already (Dallas was not on it). I see the remarks clarifying that Spezza would accept a trade to Dallas. But, that’s not really clear to me if that just means Dallas wasn’t on the original list (and thus would have to accept the trade), or if Dallas will continue to not be on the list when he submits a new one. I hope it’s the ladder, but I’m not sure we really know that yet, unless I’m either missing or misreading some comments.

          • Aaron 2.0

            Oops, I see a few things coming out now, suggesting that Spezza won’t change his list! That would be very good news. The more possibilities the better!!

          • Tooks

            They might or might not be, who knows but he just said he would accept to go to Dallas.

    • Don Ciccio

      He would then have to take out one of the other teams that was on his list like say Florida or NYI…….Don’t think he would take that chance.

    • Doc

      Posted higher up, but it fits here too:

      @CraigCustance: Spezza camp hasn’t changed trade list, nor does it expect to: “I’d like to think there’s a deal to be made.”

      • Sandy

        So I assume by now, that Murray is not allowed to deal with any of those teams.

        • Doc

          But at least Dallas is not on it.

          So it comes down to St-Louis, Dallas and Chicago then?

  • Sensturion

    If he puts Dallas on the list, he has to take another team off of it. He’s screwed no matter what.

  • Dirtysweetness

    I’d laugh if Statsny went to a team off the grid like Tampa.

    • Spoons

      We`d get some serious return for Spezza with STL back in.

      • Sandy

        Especially if Stastny goes to a team other than Colorado, Dallas and St Louis. All divisional opponents who need a centre.

      • I’m just sayin’

        “That’s not a knife, this a KNIFE!”
        “That’s not a knife, that’s a spoon!”
        “All right, you win. I can see that you have played knifey spoony, before.”

        http://powerupapparel.com/images/knifey-spoony-m-d.png

    • Phil.

      he may go off the grid, but Tampa is unlikely (Stamkos, Fillipula, Connoly at C). Dallas may be a darkhorse in that race too…

  • Sens613

    I’m hoping a deal with spezza gets done tomorrow with a rebuilding team that has a 2015 first rounder and then we make a pitch to statsny ourselves.

  • esk

    dallas and nashville..which team is better? i’m leaning towards nashville…solid goalie and d-corp. Why would spezza prefer dallas?

    • Tooks

      OFFENSE!!

    • Sandy

      Kari Lehtonen is a pretty good goaltender. And Dallas has a decent defense.

    • Mark

      Dallas already has a number 1 centre. Spezza is aiming to go somewhere that allows him to fill a second line role, wind down his career.

  • Tooks

    So Murray refused the Dallas offer…

    • Phil.

      Which was?

      • Tooks

        Was told #Sens and Stars talked about a Spezza deal on draft day. Apparently Dallas offered a top six forward, forward prospect and a 2nd.

        • KJ

          Talking is just talking, likely kicking tires

    • CohMa

      All I’ve seen is that it was a Top 6 forward, forward prospect and a 2nd round pick. I guess it would all depend who they were, but in theory looks like a pretty good trade.

    • Sandy

      It’s been rumoured. Do we know for sure? No.

  • Max2166

    Gleason and Volchenkov on buyout waivers.

  • esk
    • Tooks

      Should just sum it up to EVERYTHING, lol.

  • Dirtysweetness

    I wonder if Colorado is still looking to deal PA Parenteau?

    • spezzerman

      ummm….yep. ;) and they’d have taken anything apparently.

  • Doc

    @CraigCustance: Spezza camp hasn’t changed trade list, nor does it expect to: “I’d like to think there’s a deal to be made.”

  • RUSH RLZ

    It’s going to be a long week…

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/2Nqu5lX-izQ

  • KJ

    I feel a little better Ottawa is not the only team this is happening to:

    https://twitter.com/tsnbobmckenzie/status/483646802726383616

    • peetypuck

      WHAT !!! He didn’t want to play in Toronto? Nonsense!

      • ProfessorPower

        hahah I would too, fuck Toronto.

        • peetypuck

          How humiliating for the centre of the universe.

      • Sandy

        But that’s the centre of the universe.

      • laffin681021

        I thought everyone wanted to play in Toronto?

    • esk

      i dont think gorges asked for a trade? if thats the case then i have no problem in that move

      • KJ

        Yes. This what a NTC is for. George’s did not ask for a trade and vetoed his GM

    • Sandy

      He has a list of 15 teams he will go to. All teams in the US. That’s as per Bob MacKenzie.
      Why does Canada even have NHL teams. Players don’t want to come here to play.

      • peetypuck

        Better yet, why doesn’t Bettman do something to level the playing field for Canadian teams?
        Oh wait, then it’s possible a Cdn team might win the cup.

        • Sensnation

          They don’t avoid Canada due to the playing field, Toronto and Montreal are on the same playing field as any US team revenue wise. It’s the fans and media, but I guess fans aren’t ready to admit that to themselves.

          • peetypuck

            I keep hearing that the taxes are much lower in the US than in Canada.

          • Sensnation

            They are, Nashville especially, but if that’s what fans are going to blame they have trouble with the reflection in the mirror.

          • peetypuck

            Really, do you think the fans in Philly, NY or Boston are any better than Montreal or Toronto? Think again. Philly fans would boo their own grandmothers.

          • Sensnation

            Taxes play a part for some players, but there are few who will outright not play in Canada because of them, especially Canadian players. To act like this is the reason they’re all leaving is a mistake imo.

          • peetypuck

            The players agents advise them where to play and for how much. Is there some reason why they are telling them all to go to the US? I can see this as being a problem.
            Fans and media are pretty much the same in any Cdn city or US city that has a strong hockey fan base.

          • Sensnation

            Players are telling their agents where they WANT to play though. Agents can inform them on the decision, but don’t make it for them. No trade lists I’m sure are discussed with agents, but at the end of the day eliminating Canadian teams from their destinations has to do with the number of vocal fans and media. You cannot deny there is way more in Canada than most US markets and this is a problem a lot of players have indicated.

          • peetypuck

            So why aren’t players asking to get traded from the Flyers? They are the nastiest fans in the NHL.

          • Sensnation

            Nastiest to their opponents! I’ve seen little that shows they are more unreasonable to their own players.

          • peetypuck

            Go read the the fan comments in the Philly papers.

          • peetypuck

            Why bother having an agent if you don’t listen to their advice. Agents play a big role in what players do.

          • Sensnation

            Is that close to what I said? Good day man, this is getting stupid.

          • peetypuck

            No answer to why the star players in Toronto or Montreal never ask to be traded? They are the major media and fan markets in the hockey world. Kessel…Phaneuf… Subban…Gorges.
            Even Spezza would stay in Ottawa if the owner would put more effort into winning. The Sedins have never asked to be traded from Vancouver. Alfie only left because of Melnyk, not because of the fans or media.

          • Sensnation

            We’re talking about players who refuse to play in Canadian markets, not ones who chose to sign there and love it. There are plenty of players over the years who have REFUSED to play for Toronto and Montreal. You might as well start bringing up every players that’s never complained. The problem isnt’ that there are people that still want to play here, the problem is too many are starting to say no that’s it’s noticeable and becoming a problem. If you can’t understand this common sense straight forward point, there’s nothing that will enlighten you.

          • peetypuck

            But…but…but, I thought you said the media was too hard on players here? The only players that left Toronto were because the Laffs would not resign them or they were traded.

          • peetypuck

            I was reading the fan comments in the St Louis Dispatch yesterday. They aren’t any better there than here in Ottawa. Just not as many comments.

          • Sensnation

            “Just not as many comments.” is the main point. They can live in relative anonymity in the US, not in Canada.

          • peetypuck

            So now you’re saying it’s not the fans comments? I thought your whole argument was based on that.
            Only a few players want to live in anonymity. It was found that many hockey players suffer from depression when they retire and are no longer in the spotlight. So, forget that one.

          • Sensnation

            Wow, if you’re going to take everything and try to twist it, there’s not much more I can add here. Fans comments in a website message board are way different than fans comments at games, in interviews and in the media. But hey, compare how you’d like. As long as you don’t want to admit fan/media responsibility you can keep being confused by the exodus.

          • peetypuck

            Haha, you’re the one that’s trying to change your argument.
            Since Toronto is the worst media market why haven’t Phaneuf and Kessel asked to be traded???
            I just read that Gorges is in shock that the Habs want to trade him. It seems he loves playing in Montreal.

      • I’m just sayin’

        taxes – taxes – taxes

        AND every Canarian NHL city has a dozen Dildo Don Brennans

  • esk

    We would get a fair return if we signed and traded spezza or if he got traded and agreed to an extension…

  • aegiszx

    Hmm…

    Restricted free agent Johansen on Blue Jackets offer: ‘It seems a little disrespectful’ http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/529840 via @theScore

    • Sandy

      Spezza for Johansen. Oh, wait a minute, Columbus is on his no-trade list.
      I don’t know why. They are a team on the rise and a playoff contender.

      • Doc

        Johansen is going to be a stud. I can’t see any scenario where he doesn’t remain in Columbus.

        • aegiszx

          GMs want bridge deals… Players dont seem to like it.

          You dont have to tell me twice… guys like Subban, Johansen, and Lehner are going to be studs.

    • esk

      lol the blue jackets are dumb to play around with him like this

      • aegiszx

        Johansen, should return the favour and bolt after the bridge deal is done… cash in on a team that will pay premium like the Pens or Flyers.

        • Sensnation

          Or just get the Flyers to offer sheet him now lol

          • aegiszx

            Will Hextall be as shady and ruthless as Holmgren lol? I dont know how you can make so many bad moves and then get promoted…

  • Tom P

    What time does the window open to start being able to sign players ?

    • Doc

      Noon tomorrow.

      • Tom P

        Thanks !

  • Deadly

    Gleason ,with 4 million per season for the next two years will be a non compliance buyout..nice to have the money to support poor management .

    • zippy

      Like Gleason.

      • Sandy

        Sens drafted Gleason.

        • zippy

          Yeah, and I didn’t want him to go when he did.

          • peetypuck

            But we got Smolinski for Gleason. lol

          • zippy

            I liked Smolinski too, but If we could get Gleason back. He’s a good 3/4.

  • I’m just sayin’

    In other news – Ottawa and Jim O’Brien finally part company.
    They’ll write an opera about this some day

    • Brock

      Forgot he existed.

    • KJ

      5 other players not renewed as well, including Cowick

    • esk

      we could have had P.K. Subban, Jamie Benn, Wayne Simmonds

  • Sandy

    Ottawa Senators ‏@Senators 3h

    Full details of on-ice schedule will be announced today, as well as the entire 34-player roster. #Sens fans, who are you excited to see?

    Finally info about the development camp.

  • Sandy

    Andy Strickland @andystrickland · 41m

    Not 100% Paul Stastny will leave the #Avs has family and roots established there. Be interesting to see if a dozen teams are chasing a ghost

  • thepez

    I keep reading how players don’t want to go to cities due to the fan base and media. Personally if players are that mentally soft then I don’t want them. I really believe that Spezza suggested to BM that he would be ok if he was moved to a team that made him the 2C and not the focal point of the team and BM is trying to accomodate. If it really was the media and/or fans he would have left years ago and in reality the media has not been that bad. If you want bad check out the media in Spain, England, Italy, Portugal, etc…especially since those teams were eliminated from the WC. The media in Europe make the media here look like a kindergarten class.

    • Sensnation

      Soft? It’s becoming a significant percentage of the elite players, I doubt they’re all soft. Canadian media and fans are beyond unreasonable, fans can’t keep passing the buck on this one.

      • thepez

        Sorry that is a very convenient excuse. Ask the players in the NFL who play in NY or Chicago etc… The media there is way harder than in the NHL and that includes Canadian cities.

        • Sensnation

          I disagree, and we’re talking NHL markets here, what happens in other sports means little. NFL players know they are on a short leash as their contracts are not guaranteed.

      • peetypuck

        Sorry but you’re way off on this. Fans and media (Edit: in the US) are every bit as harsh as the Canadian media. Remember Brooksie always taunting Tortorella in New York?

        • Sensnation

          Finding isolated incidents that are similar, does not equate to an ongoing 24-7 equal situation.

          • peetypuck

            I can recall the fans in Philly (years ago) literally booing their goalie, Sean Burke off the ice.
            Rick Nash asked to be traded from Columbus.
            Bobby Ryan wanted out of Anaheim.
            Shea Weber signed an offer sheet to leave Nashville to go to Philly.
            And so on and so.

          • Sensnation

            Do you realize how many of those had nothing to do with the market? Having issues with the coach or management team is very different. At this point you’re either a troll or too stubborn to hear anything you don’t agree with.

          • peetypuck

            Give it up. Players want out of US teams also but they don’t want to be moved to Canadian teams. It has nothing to do with the fan base or media being too hard on them.

          • Sensnation

            Lol, ok peety, far be it for me to listen to the words coming out of players’ and agents’ mouths. Enjoy.

    • I’m just sayin’

      Who wants the likes of Don Brennam haranguing you day after day after day ?
      Even the New York City “Don Brennans” have lots of other targets to
      shoot their vile at.

      • thepez

        I agree with you on that but I’m sure the players think he is an a-hole and just don’t bother

        • I’m just sayin’

          Brennan’s half truths and outright lies keep showing up in
          the local McTabloid.
          They always generate a lot of direct and indirect crap
          for the targeted player.

  • Sandy

    Travis Yost @TravisHeHateMe · 18m

    Leafs clearing cap space to sign Dave Bolland. And Brooks Orpik.

    • Sensnation

      I hope that is correct, would be awesome to see them stuck with those 2 and Clarkson overpaid for a long time.

  • zippy

    So realistically we have CHI/STL and Dallas in the mix.

    And COL on the outside.

    We have a chance to land ROR, Sharp or Nichuskin. (And if we’re lucky Tarasenko)

    Geez….that’s a tough choice. I’m thinking Sharp has most of what we need. Skill, leadership and experience.

    What do the others have that Sharp doesn’t? Just a lower price tag?

    • Sensnation

      Age, potential and skill in some of those cases.

  • SensChirp

    Briere for Parenteau. Odd trade for the Avalanche.

    • EK65

      What is happening with MTL and Toronto??

    • spezzerman

      so if Briere is worth a top 6, surely spezza is too? ;)

    • esk

      great pick up by the habs..fuck

      • Tooks

        You telling me we couldnt give better than Briere…..For fuck sakes Murray…

        • RUSH RLZ

          Normally I would say they don’t want to trade to a division rival,
          but they tried to send Gorges to the Leafs, the dirtiest rival of them
          all…

          FFS! I’ve wanted Parenteau on our team for quite some time.

          • spezzerman

            sounds like it happened quickly. I wonder how many knew PA was available for…not very much.

          • RUSH RLZ

            See? You hear that once in a while… other GMs had no frigging idea a player was available. In most cases I would say the trading GM is an idiot for not putting out word to drive up the return but in this case? Marc “Hypnotoad” Bergevin. What a shitty, shitty trade for the Avs.

    • ProfessorPower

      why Colorado, why

    • spezzerman

      I hope the Avalanche lose Stastny and get in on Spezza sweepstakes…

    • Sensnation

      Probably adding some vets to their young core. I know a lot of sens fans have been big on Parenteau the last year or two, but I’m happy we dodged that bullet.

      • Phil.

        Agree. He has not played well since leaving the Island. Put up some points but very inconsistent.

    • esk

      mtl sentt a 5th round pick in 2015 as well

      • Sens-fan-in-mtl

        no, Habs received a 5th round pick!!! unbelievable!

        • Sensnation

          Salary dump then. Briere makes half of what Parenteau did. These salary dump trades are pretty confusing to assess value.

          • Phil.

            Also, Briere has 1 year left, PAP has 2.

          • SensChirp

            Don’t they both make 4 mil per?

          • Sensnation

            Sorry if I wasn’t clear. Less years on that contract. Getting rid of the 2nd year.

          • Sandy

            Maybe it’s cheaper for the Avs to possibly buy out 1 yr of Briere rather than 2 yrs of Parenteau.
            Not saying it’s happening though.

          • Sens-fan-in-mtl

            or maybe Patrick is just setting up his team for when he eventually becomes coach of the Habs down the road?

    • Aaron 2.0

      Wow. I know economic/budget considerations are partly at play here, but anyone else lost on market value at this point?

    • RUSH RLZ

      The scariest thing about this trade? Looks like that doofus Eklund broke it!

  • esk

    GORGES ‘IN SHOCK’ THAT CANADIENS WANT TO TRADE HIM: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=456076

    • esk

      think its fair that he denied the leafs trade! he didnt ask for a trade..

      • RUSH RLZ

        Not just that but to the dirty fucking Leafs, the Habs most hated rival? I bet any Habs player would refuse a trade there if they could.

  • clarkeinthedark

    No to sharp 1 for 1 with Spezza. We’re trying to get younger right? Would much rather see a 1 for 1 deal with the avs ROR

    • ProfessorPower

      I think we all would.

    • OverMind

      my dream is the AVS overpay to keep Statsney and are forced to move ROR for potencially cheaper spezza.

      • FistsofNeil25

        Avs would choose O’Reilly 10 times out of 10 over Stastny. They aren’t going to re-sign Stastny at the expense of not being able to afford O’Reilly.

  • esk

    “Senators would be targeting players such as Trevor Daley, Brenden Dillon or Alex Chiasson, along with a prospect and a draft pick. If the Senators need to take on more salary to avoid dropping below the cap floor, a deal involving Sergei Gonchar and the $5million remaining on his contract could be in play.” http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dallas-stars/headlines/20140629-report-stars-never-seriously-involved-in-possible-jason-spezza-trade-at-draft-but-could-be-serious-option-now.ece

    • Sandy

      Chiasson, Ritchie, 1st rounder 2015. You can keep Gonchar.

      • EK65

        I’d take Gonchar if it got the deal done

        • Sensnation

          To keep and use, trade or buyout?

          • Doc

            To be honest, I don’t really care if it brings in a good package in return.

          • esk

            lol

        • OverMind

          take gonchar send back borocop, save some salary

        • WaitingSince92

          No

      • Pasky

        I would do Faksa over Ritchie since we don’t need to take 2 RW players, as we have a bit of a logjam on the right side anyways.

        • Spoons

          You should re-read your post… not sure you’re talking about hockey there… just sayin’…

          • Pasky

            Pretty sure I know what I mean, but thanks for your concerns :)

      • Deadly

        Probably would get a better package if Gonchar’s salary is included on the deal.

  • Sensnation

    There were issues between PA Parenteau and Roy. Explains the trade a bit better.

    • Sandy

      Source??

      • Sensnation

        Tim and Sid, sportsnet.

        Puck Daddy is saying the Avs were high when they made the trade lol.

        • jimmyjohnson

          They had to be lol. What kind of trade is this?

  • Pasky

    I think right now what’s hurting about the budget is that we are missing an opportunity to get some quality pieces from teams that want to dump salary. Gagner might have fallen a bit these days, but you can’t tell me that with 33% of his salary retained you wouldn’t want him for a 6th round pick. He could have easily slipped in the lineup as a 2A/2B Center with Zib, and he and Hoffman could have formed a speedy energy line with offensive capabilities.

    I know I don’t want to see more Kovalev signings at 5M, but it’s frustrating to be a fan of a team that has no interest of wanting to compete with the leagues best.

    • Tooks

      You couldnt have said it any better. Its a terrible place to be…

      • FistsofNeil25

        Pretty discouraging to see other teams act so aggressively to try and improve their roster. We’ll see how the rest of this week goes I guess. There’s a good chance that by this time Friday we still have the exact same roster lol

        • Pasky

          That’s what worries me the most lol. I think we have a better team then we showed last year, but I am concerned about the morale in the locker room with everything that’s been going on. That’s why I think the most important thing is to get the Spezza deal done, which I think will happen after Stastny signs to either St-Louis or elsewhere. The other thing is locking up Ryan & MacArthur to long term extensions on July 1st. Ryan is the 2nd biggest asset to this team next to Karlsson and needs to become one of the faces of this franchise. And MacArthur seems to be well liked in the locker room and by management so I don’t see an issue with his extension.

          If these things don’t happen before the start of training camp then I think next year is going to be worse than last season was.

  • Sandy

    Chirp, are there any concerns that Lehner could get an offer sheet, like from Buffalo?

    • Tcharger – #TheFansFault

      Wouldn’t that just be great… Someone offers him a contract that he would deserve as a starter and we don’t match it

      • Sensnation

        They’d have to offer sheet him to a shitload for BM not to match, and then we’d be getting multiple first round picks. I’m not too worried.

        • Tcharger – #TheFansFault

          Imagine Tampa does it and ends up with a bishop lehner to tandem.

      • Sandy

        No way that Bryan Murray doesn’t match that contract. They can’t let Lehner leave.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Realistically how much money would someone give Lehner an offer sheet for?

      • Tcharger – #TheFansFault

        Pay him as if he’d been the starter like he shouldn’t have been.. Instead of getting here’s around here. I think it could be a pretty easy sell to him

        • FistsofNeil25

          Who would be stupid enough to give Lehner the salary of a starting goaltender? He hasn’t proven anything yet.

    • FistsofNeil25

      If Buffalo offer sheeted Lehner for $3,364,392 per season or more, they would give us their 1st and 3rd round picks as compensation. Ya I’d let Lehner go and take Buffalo’s top pick next year lol

      • Sandy

        And who takes over from Anderson when he is gone? They won’t let Lehner go.

        • FistsofNeil25

          They would have to find someone else but if they got Buffalo’s top pick next year who cares? It doesn’t matter anyway. Timmy’s most prized asset is his first round pick next year. That’s his big ticket and with every move he’s made so far it’s clear he’s planning an epic tank job.

          • Sensnation

            His interview says he’s getting calls from good free agents about wanting to come play there. They can offer tons of icetime and a leadership role to vets. Not saying it’s going to happen, but must be so much fun for him to be GM right now.

          • FistsofNeil25

            He’s honestly gutting that roster and making it his own in such a short period of time. Traded Miller, Ott, Moulson, McCormick, McNabb. Bought out Leino and Erhoff. He’s trying to trade Stewart and Myers lol

            I think Tim is having a lot of fun right about now.

          • Sandy

            He told Bryan Murray just before the draft he is under a lot of stress.

          • peetypuck

            Hopefully it’s good stress. At least he’s got an owner that will allow him to do his job and spend if he needs to.

          • Sandy

            True.

          • FistsofNeil25

            Must be awfully stressful to work for a man that has given a seemingly unlimited amount of money to work with.

  • Sandy

    Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger · 27m

    Brendan Shanahan continues to try and encourage Josh Gorges to accept trade to the Maple Leafs. So far, no luck, but still a chance.

    I guess Toronto still has a sense of entitlement. Would the coach have something to do with him not wanting to go to Toronto?

    • FistsofNeil25

      I’ve always really liked Gorges. He’s a playoff warrior. I hope he doesn’t waive for Toronto and Montreal trades him elsewhere.

      • Sandy

        Not sure where he got the info, but some guy on the RSU facebook page said Gorges had changed his list to include 2 Cdn teams.
        Since he’s from BC I would assume Vancouver would be one. And that leaves Edm, Cal, Winn, Ott. As we all know he won’t go to Toronto.

        • Tcharger – #TheFansFault

          Rsu are a bunch of idiots they know less than eklund

  • Sandy

    http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724582

    It’s about the development camp.

    • Pasky

      Thanks for that, I’m looking forward to seeing Lazar and Puemple the most. I think Lazar should get a 9 game tryout next season, as he is too good for juniors again I find. Puemple is probably starting in the minors, butI think he ends up getting a look if injuries persist next season. He’s a bonafide sniper in every league he’s played in, and I’d like to see him on a line with Ryan and Zibby.

      Also hope Stone dominates as he should with the amount of experience he has. This is gonna be his last chance with this club so he better impress.

  • Mat

    The pressure is mounting in Ottawa. Terrible draft performance, unresolved Spezza situation, losing our entire top line, fragile contract situation with important players on the team, no news no action… This whole fucking thing is falling apart if you ask me. 2 years ago we had a plan and we were trending upwards. I’m not sure where this is going now. Everything looks bleak. Does Melnyk look at this team and think we’re competitive??

    • Doc

      Care to elaborate on the ‘terrible draft performance’?

      • EK65

        Haha you and I are always knocking down stupidity as soon as it’s posted here. Love it.

        • Doc

          Yeah, by all accounts Englund seems legit.

          Dorion was raving about the kid, saying that he was the one they would have picked if they got a late first rounder in a Spezza trade.

          Read up a lot on the kid and I’m very satisfied with that pick.

        • Mat

          Ha! none of you clowns even had a clue who this guy was. You’re going on Pierre’s assessment alone. Time will tell on “Chris Pronger *light” (lol) but sorry, the draft was a bust. Particularly after the last 2-3 years. Go ahead and get excited about a couple of 5th/6th round picks if you want.

          And good on you guys for being optimistic right now. This team is on very unstable ground.. We’ll see how it all plays out in the next couple of weeks but I predict most of you will be bitching and complaining too.

          • Doc

            Yes, that’s exactly what we’re doing. We’re listening to the guy that does this for a living, and has been for over 20 years, over a poster on a fan site.

            The only clown here is you. I think you need a pint more than I do.

          • Sandy

            Pierre Dorion, along with his scouts, actually go and watch these guys play, a lot.
            They have not let the organization down yet, and I will put my faith in their observations on these young players, over someone who has never seen him play or even heard of him.

          • Pasky

            This team is on unstable ground but to say the draft was a complete bust is just you trying to find something to be negative about. They drafted a 2nd rounder they projected to be in the first round, so that’s not bad at all. As for the others, who the hell knows how they end up for another 3 years.

            And although the Spezza trade didn’t happen at the draft, if they would have traded Spezza to St-Louis for the rumoured package of Berglund+21st overall pick, would that be any better, or would everyone be bitching about how terrible the trade was for us? That deal would have made the draft a failure in my books.

          • Sensnation

            This draft was average to weak. The fact the scouting team got who they wanted if we had made a trade is a win. Whether he turns out as anyone hopes is still a complete gamble, as always, but doesn’t mean it was a terrible draft performance unless you think our scouting staff, with a pretty impressive history of success, is suddenly completely wrong on this entire draft class.

          • Mat

            That’s certainly part of why this draft was a bust. And the fact that no one wanted to dance with us on Spezza or any other deal for that matter is a sign of bigger problems.

            Nothing against Dorion and his team, they done magic to restock the cupboards in this organization. But my rant goes beyond the draft btw..

          • Sandy

            Your rant should be directed to the Owner who is mostly responsible for what has gone on in the organization.

          • Doc

            That’s fair, but they actually got the guy they were hoping to get with a first. That’s a win any way you slice it.

            I actually agree with the rest of your rant, I only called you out on the draft part.

          • Mat

            I think you were calling me out on my negativity. And I’m not going to sugar coat it, these days, I’m struggling to see where we’re going. I’m concerned about how players in the league are viewing this team. I’m not sure what’s keeping Murray going these days. I’d resign or would be shopping myself as a free agent GM. He’s no doubt trying to pull miracles.

          • Doc

            Pretty much. Whatever faults some might see in Murray, he’s done a hell of a job with little he has to work with.

            Miracles is almost an understatement.

            We’re all in this together anyways. Might as well buckle up and enjoy the ride.

          • Mat

            The ride is only tolerable with a mickey of Jack for me right now. I’m hoping for 2-3 miracles in the next 7 days. Am I being delusional?

          • Doc

            Way ahead of you.

            Air conditioner craped out on me last night. Beer is my only saviour right now…for so many reasons.

          • peetypuck

            Whoa, the team is rebuilding. Give the kids another year and we’ll see a big diff in the team when they start winning. Every team has to go through this.

          • Sensnation

            For sure, and not everything you’re ranting about is wrong. Was just surprised by the draft comment. I can understand why the buildup to a Spezza trade was such a letdown in that department.

      • Deadly

        Thanks Doc.He must really know hockey to make that comment.

      • peetypuck

        What terrible draft performance…Karlsson, (Rundblad) Turris, Cowen, Zibanejad, Ceci and Lazar.

        • Mat

          Clearly I’m talking about this year?!?

          • RUSH RLZ

            Your post is spot on about the terrible spiral we are in, except for this “draft performance” thing. I would just let that one go. ;)

          • Doc

            Pretty much.

          • Mat

            Fair comment. And said so respectfully. Appreciated.

          • peetypuck

            This year’s 1st round pick would be Bobby Ryan since we traded it to get him.

          • jimmyjohnson

            Please give one example from the past where you were successfully able to analyze this teams draft results less than a week after the draft occured.

            Then, please explain you expert insight into the players taken by our scouting staff and those players taken around them (lets say 4 spots on each side).

            Go.

    • EK65

      “Terrible draft performance”

      … HOW? We tried making deals, no one was moving their 1st round picks.

      Our second round pick is someone our scouts had ranked especially high. We picked our best player available. He’s been projected anywhere from Douglas Murray to Chris Pronger(lite).

      Take your unfounded negativity and shove it.

      • Deadly

        Yes,time to move on Mat.

    • The Logic Police
    • Sandy

      I wouldn’t say terrible draft performance. They had 4 picks and got players they believe in.

    • thepez

      So do you work at central scouting? Since normally it takes 5 to 10 years before any draft can be evaluated, so we have a ways to go. As for fragile contracts, everyone on the Sens are signed for 14-15 season, so once again you fail in your analysis. Are you sure you haven’t started you Canada day celebrations a tad early?

      • Mat

        So you think that Bobby Ryan is a lock to re-sign then? I’m worried. I won’t lie.

        • thepez

          After hearing his comments at the end of the season I have no worries. As much as Spezza wants to leave for a change the feeling is mutual by the Sens

          • Mat

            I hope you are all right. And to be honest, I’m more concerned about the image of losing Ryan, than actually losing Ryan…

        • Sandy

          I am worried to. I guess we find out tomorrow.

        • Sensnation

          He has said all the right things thus far to believe he wants to be here. Especially if he sees first line minutes for the near future!

  • FistsofNeil25

    Bruce Garrioch@SunGarrioch

    5 free agents I think OTT will look at: Moulson (MIN), Havlat (SJS), Pouliot (NYR), Jokinen (PIT) and keeping Milan Michalek.

    How about no, no, no, no and no.

    • Mat

      Agree. *sigh

    • RUSH RLZ

      Who do we even need to acknowledge that fat asshole exists?

    • Sandy

      Nothing wrong with keeping Michalek.

      • The Logic Police

        yeah – at least he wants to stay

      • FistsofNeil25

        I’m fine with Michalek but it’s been rumored there are a dozen teams interested. That’s going to drive up his salary demands. Are we okay with keeping Michalek at 4.5M?

        • Sandy

          Depends on what the first offer was.
          It was probably around 3.5 to 4M. If it was closer to 4M then, yes they should go 4.5.
          There is no guarantee, and probably less than likely, that any FAs come to Ottawa.

          • RUSH RLZ

            Of course we’ll bring in some UFAs, it’s just that they might be the C grade pick-ups we are learning to expect.

          • Sensnation

            MacArhtur?

          • Sandy

            That was last year and the discussions probably took place before the Alfie departure.

          • Sensnation

            We’d need to replace Spezza, Michalek and Hemsky from our end of year roster. That can’t be done with 3rd line players.

            Truly though our roster is pretty full if there’s any nhl players coming back in a Spezza trade. 1 top 6 and 1 3rd line player should be enough in free agency.

          • FistsofNeil25

            MacArthur was a C grade pick up at the time though but he turned in to pure gold.

        • Sensnation

          I’d go 4.5 for him, just to keep some veteran skill, but it’s rumored the offer was closer to 3.5 and he may be able to get 5 on the market or big term. Hard decision for BM for sure!

    • EK65

      Moulson, yes. Love that guy. and Michalek, yes. Jokinen could be good also, Murray has liked him for a while.

      • FistsofNeil25

        Moulson is overrated. He’s a good player below the hashmarks in the offensive zone but if he’s not scoring goals he’s not doing a whole lot else. He’s also slow as molasses.

        • jimmyjohnson

          We need a player just like that! And he’s slow but he’s not Heatley slow.

        • Sandy

          Put him with two speedy players and he can trail them and get a drop pass for a goal. LOL

          • jimmyjohnson

            They tried that with cheechoo

      • Mat

        Lol

    • Jakester

      Especially big no for Havlat and Pouliot. Pouliot is another Kovalev. He decides when he plays.

    • jimmyjohnson

      What’s wrong with Moulson? And Pouliot isn’t terrible.

      Don’t forget, we need to get to the cap floor. At least 1 overpaid FA is coming north to Ottawa.

      • Mat

        Please let that UFA be Vrbata…

      • FistsofNeil25

        Remember what you said about Ehrhoff yesterday? About how you wonder why he’s been let go from three different teams no for next to nothing.. well Pouliot has played for 5 different teams in the past 5 years. The guy has issues.

        • jimmyjohnson

          I guess you might be right. I don’t have high expectations for him though. If we need a body and everyone else is taken, and they get him short term (i don’t care how cheap) then I wouldn’t be against it.

    • Sandy

      I absolutely loved Mach 9 when he played in Ottawa. His speed along with his scoring touch he was exciting to watch.
      But the injuries have caught up to him, and I don’t think he is the player he was.
      I doubt he would come back to Ottawa anyway. Imagine, all that’s left from his days here are Neil and Phillips.

  • peetypuck

    It would be nice to find out how much of Canadian revenues are going to US teams vs how much of US revenues go to Cdn teams. I think a rough estimate of total revenues for the seven Canadian teams would be $1 billion ( TO and Montreal have over $350 million alone) plus the Roger’s TV contract of $432 million starting next season. That’s roughly $200 million (average) per Cdn team compared to $2 billion-$2.3 billion in revenues generated by 23 US teams including the $200million NBC TV contract(less than $100 million per US team).
    From the $432 million Rogers contract, US teams will receive about $324 million while the Cdn teams receive $108 million. From the NBC contract US teams receive $153 million and Canadian teams get $47 million. In total, US teams share $477 million while Cdn teams share $155 million. The NBC contract lasts about 8 more years.In that time they will take in $2.592 billion from the Rogers contract alone.
    Then there is the revenue-sharing fund of $250 million(?) a year which comes from the profitable teams which includes at least six of the seven Cdn teams. All that revenue goes to subsidize US teams with little or none coming to Canada.
    Bettman makes sure that the players draft (of mainly Cdn players) and the financial playing field for US teams is level at the expense of our Canadian teams but does not seem interested in fixing the problem of players leaving Cdn teams for US cities in droves. He should at least find out the real reason they are leaving and then straighten things out.

  • Sandy

    I know it’s only HB, but the Avs blogger thinks Briere will be the replacement for Stastny if he leaves.

    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Rick-Sadowski/Avs-acquire-Briere-for-Parenteau/188/61036

    • Jakester

      Haha, OMG no way any decent GM would be thinking that!

  • Sensturion

    I wonder if Ottawa would look at A-Train for a year…

    • Doc

      Lol, no chance.

    • Deadly

      Why?

    • FistsofNeil25

      For depth in Binghamton you mean?

    • Jakester

      I hope not , he’s done!

    • runningbear1974

      I always thought he makes bad decisions with the puck… Ottawa needs to focus on character (whatever that means), and decision making (whatever that means)..

    • Sandy

      Loved Volchy when he was in Ottawa, but with the speed of the game today, it’s passed him by.

      • thepez

        He is 28 why not try him out as a 5 or 6 for a couple of years.

        • Sensnation

          You mean 32?

        • Sandy

          He’s better suited to the ‘old’ NHL. Not the speed of the new NHL.

        • FistsofNeil25

          Because he’s a really bad hockey player at this stage of his career. What would be the point? We have guys like Gryba and Boro on our team. Why go after Volchenkov?

  • esk

    As Per Phil Esposito on NHL Radio: “I believe the Rangers are really going after Spezza.”@NYR_FullTilt

    • Sensnation

      Nash-Spezza-St. Louis would be a sick line!

      • Jakester

        Two floaters and the poor little guy skating his heart out for them. No problem ship him to NY he fits in great!

      • Deadly

        Great for name recognition but not effort

    • Jakester

      Good , Brassard ,prospect, and pick would be ok. Zibby another year as dominating 3C would give the Sens a dangerous lineup!

    • Brock

      Rather him go to Dallas or St. Louis. Better returns and we don’t have to play him 20 times a year.

      • Deadly

        But great to have more interest.

        • Doc

          Agreed.

        • Jakester

          That’s a positive for sure another team!

      • FistsofNeil25

        Why does it matter how many times we play against him next year? We’re no where close to contending so what does it matter? Spezza has one yet left on his contract and then he’s free to sign anywhere he wants. We need to get the best deal possible for our hockey team. Period. It doesn’t matter who we trade with as long as it’s the best deal for our team.

        • Jakester

          Exactly, don’t care where he ends up.

        • peetypuck

          Exactly, go for the best deal.

      • Mat

        I would love us to play against Spezza 5 times a year! Turris and Mac would pick those no-look drop passes 3-4 times per game!

        • Jakester

          I know, hem him deep in his zone while he watches at his blue line.

          • peetypuck

            Let’s trade him to the Laffs then.

          • Jakester

            He would fit in well with them!

        • Deadly

          Talking about that,how do you think they felt last year when one of their hard working shifts were followed by ” inside the blue line curls” and no look drop passes.
          His teammates might be pleased to see the upcoming changes.

    • peetypuck

      They need somebody new to buy out in two years time.

    • Sandy

      How can they afford him. They need to sign key players or dump a couple of them in the trade.

  • SensChirp

    Benoit Pouliot a name to keep an eye on in free agency, apparently.

    • Doc

      :|

    • FistsofNeil25

      Awful. He’s had one good year in his career. What’s the point in a signing like that?

      • SensChirp

        I thought he looked quite good with the Rangers during their playoff run. Depends on the cost, I guess.

        • Doc

          He did, real good actually, but he didn’t look good during the regular season. It’s the Greening syndrome.

          I would definitely give one of the young guys the chance to prove themselves, instead of doing so with a sub-par free agent.

        • Jakester

          He’s an enigma like Kovalev.

          • Mat

            haha. Did you see his uber popular training video?

        • Phil.

          I agree. The problem is if the other Benoit Pouliot shows up, the one who is a floater and doesn’t play every game.

        • Mat

          Remember when Ville Leino had a great playoff?

        • FistsofNeil25

          I just don’t believe in a signing like that. The guy has played for 5 different teams in the last 5 years and now the Rangers are about to let him go as well? Why is that?

          What is the point of a signing like that though? Like where is it going to get us? I just have no idea what direction this team is going in and what their plan is.

          • peetypuck

            If Murray signs him then you know for sure were going after McDavid next summer.

          • Sandy

            Basically the same as Dominic Moore and I heard today he may be available.
            That’s the type of character guy I would want the Sens to go after. Works hard every shift.

          • jimmyjohnson

            If it’s short term and it gets us to the cap floor, there’s nothing wrong with it

          • FistsofNeil25

            Is our goal now to just get to the cap floor? We’re being told that this team has a set internal budget of 56-57M and that ownership expects to make the playoffs every year.

            So what’s the deal here? If we want to be a competitive hockey team then wasting money on trash like Pouliot is stupid. If we’re trying to simply reach the cap floor and hope for a top pick next year then fine, sign Pouliot.

          • jimmyjohnson

            I think $56M was the budget before the trade demand (??)

            Frankly, I would really prefer if they just spend to the floor this year and add $5M to the 2015-16 budget…

          • FistsofNeil25

            Now there’s a good idea.

          • peetypuck

            That’s what it looks like Murray is doing. We don’t even need to get McDavid. The top 3 picks are supposed to be great.

          • peetypuck

            With any luck we could be signing McDavid next summer to a $3 million contract including bonuses.

        • jimmyjohnson

          How much he commands is key More key is how long…

    • Jakester

      Barf, let him return home to run a hotdog stand in Alfred!

      • jimmyjohnson

        I’m pretty sure he can afford not to do that if he wants to

        • Jakester

          Pretty sure ALSO, he could buy them all up!

          • jimmyjohnson

            Is that a profitable business model?

            If you own every hot dog stand in the city, are you considered a monopoly?

            Do you have hired goons to keep competition down?

    • esk

      hmm when healthy..around 30 pts average past 5 years. picked 1st round (4th overall) in 2005…

      • jimmyjohnson

        2005 was a tough year for a lot of teams. Lots of flip-em picks.

    • The Logic Police

      will he play more NHL games for Ottawa than Guillaume Latendresse
      or Joe Corvo 2.0 ?

    • Pasky

      Meh, give him a 2 year contract max. The guy has never signed a contract over 2M a year, so he would get a cheap enough contract for him to be on the 3rd/4th line without being overpaid like Greening is.

    • Keregan

      Please no…

      • jimmyjohnson

        next year won’t be good man. just accept it

        • Keregan

          i much prefer to see a spot open for one of our kid like Hoff or Puempel than waisting it on Benoit freaking Pouliot

          • jimmyjohnson

            Well Hoff has made the team (or he fails in camp and is gone) and Puempel hasn’t played a game.

            I’m all for Puempel, Lazar, and Prince getting games this year (the two p’s have to Imo and Lazar obviously will at the start) but there’s nothing wrong with bringing in some insurance.

            A lot of guys are fighting for spots now, including almost everyone on the roster. Bringing in a vet like Pouliot isn’t horrible (even if it isnt ideal)

          • KJ

            He’s big and had an impressive playoff no?

          • Sandy

            Playing close to home may motivate him as well.

          • KJ

            Agreed. BM has wanted to get bigger and harder to play against. He is not getting Stewart from Tim, sooooo… Why not Pouliot? Gotta give it to BM and going after guys who grew up in the region. May be a tipping point when it comes to money, etc.

    • Mitchell

      Great 3rd liner

  • EK65

    Del Zoto not being qualified from Nashville. He’ll be a UFA. Too bad we already have 8 dmen. Would be a good young guy to add

    • Phil.

      Have to disagree. His play really dropped as the year went on. There is a reason Nash are letting him walk.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Can’t be that good if Nashville isn’t at the very least giving him a qualifying offer.

  • jimmyjohnson

    “What happens? (Spezza) signed a contract. I expect that there will be further conversations. This is not a deadline by any means. We don’t start hockey until mid-September. We have a number of things that could happen. It’s just a matter of having conversations with the right people and if it happens, it happens and if it doesn’t, we have a really good player on our team next year.”

    That’s straight from Murray. The “this is not a deadline” thing seems to have escaped a lot of people.

    • FistsofNeil25

      There’s no deadline but you can bet your ass that Murray wants to get the deal done so he can focus on other business.

    • runningbear1974

      I think Spezza would be good as a winger… For some reason, it has always been hard to get him to do things differently… Anyway… If we could play him on the wing with Zibanejad, thinking that we’re still grooming Zibby… He could be extremely successful… His defensive liability would be reduced by half or more if you just get him out of center…

      • Sensnation

        Spezza is one of the best on faceoffs, Zibanejad is not.

        • runningbear1974

          yeah exactly… Zibanejad needs to practice, Spezza doesn’t…

          • Sensnation

            That’s logical to you?

          • runningbear1974

            yes… A team trying to win the cup will fail, and we’ll be disappointed… A team trying to develop only needs to get better, to be something to cheer about… That was a problem with last year, not enough development…

  • FistsofNeil25

    So the Sens and Pouliot have mutual interest eh? Where does he fit in? We have MacArthur, Greening and Hoffman on the left wing. I don’t know about you guys but I don’t consider Hoffman, Pouliot or Greening top six wingers.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Another good move by Bergevin not qualifying that little rat Ryan White.

    • Doc

      When they got Weise, it pretty much was the end of White in MTL.

    • jtf927

      getting parenteau was a smart move by bergevin. that guy really knows how to build and supplement his team.

      • Sandy

        He learned from the Bowmans. Probably the best in the league.

        • jtf927

          yeah. those guys are awesome teachers.

  • jtf927

    benoit pouliot would be good for the 2nd or 3rd line. he may surprise a few people and score 20 goals this season. i think murray should qualify an offer to mdz an see if he would be willing to sign at a discounted price.

  • NickofTime

    This whole deal with Spezza sounds very much like the Heatley situation where BM had a deal with Edmonton, a team that Heatley didn’t want to go to. Sounds like bullshit to me & a convenient excuse for not getting a deal since no team wanted to give up a 1st round pick for a one dimensional player when there could be better options out there in Thronton & Stashny. Spezza isn’t as good a player as so many on here think he is & certainly not worth the three assets BM says he is worth, there are better options for an aging injury prone #2 centre.
    BM & Melnyk are not kidding anyone any more they have no money for free agency, if they did they would have re-signed Hemsky & Michalek. They will mostly go with prospects & possibly bring in a cheap UFA 3rd line winger who doesn’t cost them very much & try & sell him as a top 6 forward. This team is slowly going into the toilet & it’s all because of Melnyk’s money problems. Isn’t that why he is also selling his horses? IMO Anderson is moved at the trade deadline. Extending Ryan & MacArthur doesn’t excite me at all because even with a new contract either could ask to be traded afterwards, it’s the growing trend in Ottawa now.

    • BeJamin

      That you Kypreos?

      • peetypuck

        No, that’s Bill Watters.

    • esk

      we need to start panicking if guys like ryan, turris, methot start requesting trades…guys like spezza have been here for a long time…its not a big deal

      • Tcharger – #TheFansFault

        Yes it is.. Back to back seasons with your captains wanting out is a very big deal

  • Millennium

    Conacher a UFA

    • Tcharger – #TheFansFault

      Makes me slightly happier about that idiotic trade

      • FistsofNeil25

        Does it? We traded a Vezina candidate for a guy that not even the bottom feeding Sabres want.

        • esk

          when you put it that way..

        • Millennium

          Well I think better in the sense that we didn’t turn around and give CC away only to find out he really was a decent player. Only one lost transaction, instead of two.

          Not much consolation though :p

          • Tcharger – #TheFansFault

            Yeah pretty much my thoughts.. At least our secondary move was the right move.

        • Keregan

          in the end we only lost a 2nd rounder and let’s wait to see if bish can repeat that kind of performance next year

          • Tcharger – #TheFansFault

            That was his repeat.. Remember he did it here

          • jimmyjohnson

            He did it in 20 games here, while pushing the #1 and being pushed by the future franchise…

            keregan is right

          • Tcharger – #TheFansFault

            …. Point, if anyone watched those twenty games they knew he was ready.

            Murray was an idiot for moving him. Murray was a bigger idiot for trading him for someone we wave… And then arguably the worst team in the league waves.

            Did he have legitimate starter numbers prior to this year… Absolutely not, but to say this season came out of nowhere is just as false as saying he was a starter.

          • jimmyjohnson

            He was moved to clear the runway for Lehner. Everyone knows that.

        • Tcharger – #TheFansFault

          Does nothing to increase my comfort level in Murray still being at the helm though

        • Sandy

          I think his size is against him.

    • Deadly

      Sign him for Binghamton. Was great in the AHL and we want that team to be successful.

      • Millennium

        I’d be ok with that actually.

  • Sandy

    @Real_ESPNLeBrun: Winnipeg Jets didn’t make the cut as Stastny camp shortens list of suitors today

    Odd that Winnipeg thought they would have a chance. They do have an Owner with lots of money to throw around, but I don’t feel that Stastny would want to play in Canada.

    • Millennium

      What’s the hockey world coming to when “playing in Canada” is widely considered a negative or compromise for the players….

      Bah.

      • peetypuck

        We gave the NHL to the Americans by allowing them to expand to 24 teams (23 now) and letting them take away Win and QC instead of giving them some financial support like we are doing for them now. Next thing they will be moving the Hockey Hall of Fame to Detroit or Buffalo if we don’t watch out.

        • jimmyjohnson

          It’s clearly going to New York

  • esk

    choose already!! “Winnipeg Jets didn’t make the cut as Stastny camp shortens list of suitors today”@Real_ESPNLeBrun

    • ProfessorPower

      This is good, confirms Winnipeg is going after a top center.

      • Tcharger – #TheFansFault

        It’s irrelevant.. Spezza won’t go to Winnipeg

        • ProfessorPower

          There is a slim chance you can convince him based his one year remaining. Since that is far fetched however, I am hoping Winnipeg may want a guy like Berglund with the loss of Jokinen and would be open to a 3 way trade with STL or another team interested in Spezza.

        • Sensnation

          They could swoop in and sign another C though, leaving one of the contenders for Spezza more interested in our trade.

  • esk

    st.louis is on stastny short list..and that Parenteau trade might have been a cap move paving the way for stastny to remain an avalanche..http://www.stltoday.com/sports/hockey/professional/blues-are-on-stastny-s-short-list/article_a990bf6c-1165-59c4-b39e-ee1a023c4474.html

    • ProfessorPower

      Doesn’t Briere make the same as Parenteau next season lol

      • esk

        briere’s contract expires next year while parenteau is signed for another two years

        • ProfessorPower

          So they are not clearing cap space for next season, trading for Briere may mean they are not resigning Stastny and want a veteran 3rd line center to help their young center depth?

          • esk

            true thats a possibility!..i was thinking they were clearing cap space for 2015 season to add flexibility just in case they signed stastny

  • Harry

    Don’t know if it has been asked, so apologies if it has.

    If Spezza were to be moved to Dallas, as part of the whole package, how do people feel about Gonchar coming back to Ottawa if Phillips is going to Dallas. Gonch only has 1 year left at 5 million, while Phillips has 2 years at 2.5 million per remaining. So money is a wash, Gonch’s NMC kicks in 2015 and Phillips has a limited NMC. This would allow for somebody to step up during the 2015-2016, instead of having to wait till Philips leaves after the 2015-2016 season. This is contingent on Phillips not having Dallas listed as part of his limited NMC.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Murray isn’t going to turn around and trade Phillips after signing him to a two year deal that would see him finish his career here. Wishful thinking there Harry.

      • Deadly

        But still,a feel good fantasy.

  • esk

    DALLAS GM JIM NILL SPEAKS: TALKS SPEZZA TRADE: http://downloads.stars.nhl.com/podcasts/63014jimnillticket.mp3

    • Sensnation

      Doesn’t sound like we’d get the key pieces back from them fans have been wanting.

      • FistsofNeil25

        That’s probably the case with any trade now. We want pieces with high upside but it doesn’t appear like anyone will be willing to give those up.

        • Sensnation

          Agreed, tough market out there right now.

      • zippy

        “We are willing to trade…yes, but not sell the future of the club. It has to make sense for us”.

        No idea what that means. You gotta give to get.

        I guess the big question is…Jim Nill…whats your goal?

        • Sensnation

          Sounds like he’s pretty high on Campbell, Faksa and Nichushkin, but I may be misreading between the lines.

          I know Wiercioch isn’t a #1D, but he could sure help their 1st line PP I would think.

          • Sandy

            Chiasson, Ritchie and their 2nd in 2015 – becomes a first in 2015 if Spezza re-signs.

    • Dirtysweetness

      Thanks for posting that! So based on that interview:
      Ritchie (as they already have a couple of quality power forwards)
      Oleksiak (they have three kids on defense that will be pushing for spots on the big club)
      And some sort of conditional pick
      For Spezza

  • KJ

    So, looks like Pouliot might be one of our LW’s

  • FistsofNeil25

    So this is going to be a multi-year deal for Pouliot isn’t it?

    • jimmyjohnson

      I hope not

      • FistsofNeil25

        Not sure who this guy is but check out the link…

        http://fulltiltnyr.com/breaking-senators-looking-sign-benoit-pouliot/

        • Sandy

          Pittsburgh wants him to?
          Sign him Murray.
          As he will be playing basically in his hometown may make him more of a driven regular season player.
          His +/- the last several seasons have been pretty good.

          • ProfessorPower

            Do you know if he plays PK?

          • Sandy

            No idea.

  • Millennium

    Pouliot at LW would make him immediate 2nd line player. Macarthur, Pouliot, Hoffman, Greening right?

    • Sandy

      Better than nothing.
      Anything on Milan Chirp?

    • ProfessorPower

      Hoffman is not a lock to make the team.

      • Millennium

        Barring more than one LW acquisition this off season, 3LW is pretty much his to lose. Not a ‘lock’ per se, but certainly expected to play for the team this season.

        • ProfessorPower

          Ya basically, when Murray said he was looking for 2 left wingers and a center I assumed he didn’t see Hoffman as a lock (Macarthur, Greening signed). Even Randy Lee’s interview after Bingo’s playoff run he said he expects Hoffman to push for a spot and has a good chance. He got a two-way contract for a reason, I think I remember BM saying if he doesnt make the team they are confident some team will pick him up off waivers. I still think we are targeting a LW in the Spezza trade.

          • Sandy

            Hoffman will have to clear waivers, which he won’t make it past Buffalo. So you play him or you lose him.

          • ProfessorPower

            Yes exactly, They want him to play in the NHL so if for some reason he doesnt make the team they will be happy for another to pick him up.

  • Sandy

    Does anyone know if Pouliot skates with some of the Sens in the off-season training?

  • Sensnation

    This article is saying Pouliot bidding could be driven up into the 3-4mil range

    http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/521058

    • ProfessorPower

      and I was thinking he would be getting 2 mil, 2.5 max lol we could probably entice him with term and the local connection.

    • esk

      positive article..why doesnt anybody here want him? might be better then mm9 ?

  • Sandy

    3.5 wouldn’t be so bad. This team, after all, has to get to the cap floor.
    Put him with Zibby.

  • esk

    someone on twitter suggested that we would be near the cap after spezza trade, bobby/mac/lehner extensions and free agent signings….anyone see this as a possibility?

    • Sandy

      Bobby/Mac’s contracts won’t go on the cap until next season.

      • esk

        so depending on how much the cap goes up next year we’ll be close?

        • Sandy

          Not bloody likely.
          Other than Methot & Andy, most of the contracts up next season will be RFAs.

    • Sandy

      In salary alone, between Spezza & Michalek salaries , they can spend 11M to be where they were at last season + the extra they pay for Gryba & Lehner.

      • esk

        ahh gotcha

    • Sensnation

      Maybe near the budget, but not the cap ceiling. We aren’t that far off when Lehner signs and if Spezza trade is dollar in dollar out.

  • Sandy

    Lots of negativity around the Sens, but just watching Curtis Lazar on CTV Sports, I’m so excited to see what he can do.

  • Adam

    Move Turris up to the first line with Macarthur and Bobby Ryan. With Michalek seemingly going elsewhere, a Spezza trade for a 2nd line center, prospect, and maybe a depth player could be possible.