Assistant Coaches Change Roles?

SensChirp March 17, 2014 303
Assistant Coaches Change Roles?

During the third period of last night’s loss, after what was a horrendous weekend of hockey for the Ottawa Senators, an interesting tweet by Ian Mendes set off a bit of a fire storm on Twitter.

Apparently the media picked up on it in the third period against Montreal too. Dave Cameron has been responsible for the forwards this season while the defence is the responsibility of Mark Reeds. And as far as I know, it has been that way since they got here.

Now I’m not sure how often something like this happens during an NHL season but it seems strange that the two Assistant Coaches would switch responsibilities this late in the season. When asked about it after the game, Paul MacLean would not comment. On the surface it seems like an odd yet fairly harmless move but the fact that MacLean would not comment makes it seem like there may be more to it than we realize and that maybe, the decision was out of his hands.

Marc Methot did offer a short comment on the switch

“I guess, it’s about getting a little help from Dave.  There’s not much else I can say. If the coaches haven’t said anything, there’s not much I can say. They are all qualified NHL coaches. To us, it’s not a big deal. We know Dave really well. He does a good job.”

May be something to keep an eye on this week.

  • Doc

    This screams of something that comes from higher up. Wonder what the ultimate goal is, or what the expected results are.

    • aegiszx

      I’ve always said that I feel like Eugene plays just as much a role as any other GM… One would think Eugene has more control over who plays than Paulrus…

  • Hax

    Oh good. Something relatively meaningless that we will probably never know any more about that we can debate, dissect and argue over to distract us from the fact that we’re likely missing the playoffs.

    • Doc

      Likely? ;)

  • MethotToMyMadness

    This is something that other teams have probably done at some point and we just don’t see it. But Ottawa does it and it’s a bigger story than it should be. Seriously, who really cares. If I had to guess, the Sens D haven’t been that stellar at actually playing D this season, so why not just swap it up and see what happens. Does it really need to be a big story?

    • FistsofNeil25

      It’s not just the D though. The team itself just has no clue how to play defense.

      • MethotToMyMadness

        That is true. It’s been dreadful.

        • FistsofNeil25

          Ever since the departure of Fisher, Kelly, and Vermette, we’ve lacked a forward group capable of playing a 200 foot game. Turris and MacArthur are probably our best two-way forwards but after that things don’t look very good. Zibanejad shows a lot of potential but he’s clearly not trusted enough to play in key situations of the game.

          Our current “shutdown” line of Greening, Smith and Neil line has no idea how to play defensive hockey. They’re especially lost in our own zone. They’re a great line down low in the offensive zone when they’re cycling the puck but when they’re forced to play in their own zone I just close my eyes and hope for the best.

          • Aaron 2.0

            I’ve been saying the same exact thing about that line (Greening-Smith-Neil). And, we’re definitely not a lone. A lot of others are seeing and saying it too. I wonder why coaches are so intent on making them a shut-down line. Although, in fairness to the coaches, last night that line had reduced minutes, and the outcome wasn’t any better. I didn’t watch the game, so can’t really comment on more than the outcome.

      • runningbear1974

        they did last year…

        • bluebuyyoo

          Different D this year. Gonchar and Benoit made a difference.

          • runningbear1974

            I was more commenting on the forward guys… I agree the D last year better, but this year the forwards are worse as well…

    • boom

      It’s a big story if it wasn’t MacLeans idea, as Chirp alluded to.

    • Tooks

      I’ve never seen any other team swap assistants roles. Never. Its very weird and alludes to Management not knowing what they have a coaches. Or maybe a desperate attempt to get the players fired up.

      I would just fire them both and let Maclean get his own guys.

      • s3nsfan

        so since you’ve never seen it, it’s never happened. It alludes to nothing, you know management made the decision, maybe…just maybe and well I’m not as all knowing (like you and your crystal ball)that Maclean is fed up with the defense and defensive coverage and wanted a change….

        • Tooks

          Maclean didnt make the change, wether he’s fed up or not, this didnt come from him.

          • s3nsfan

            Really? I’d like to read the article you read that told you that so i could be as informed as you are on team matters. Tell me something you ever think that maybe he didn’t make the decision to have them the way they were BEFORE the season started and he finally had it and put them in the positions he felt would best help the team? Just sayin’ cause you know I’m not as informed as you are with your wealth of insider knowledge.

          • bjessima

            I’ve coached, albeit at much lower levels, and this is a very strange thing to do. It smacks of desperation and the fact that Mac wouldn’t comment is worrisome, either because it was forced on him or he is desperate. Either way, I don’t like the look of it, and I think if fair speculation to think it could have come from higher up.The D is bad, and the defensive coverage overall is bad. Habs friend of mine who has season tickets said he couldn’t understand what the Sens were doing in defending: he used the term “gong show” to characterize it.

  • Sensei

    The “Karlsson-to-wing” people must be as hopeful as ever.

    • aegiszx

      Please please please make it happen…

      • WaitingSince92

        As comic book man might say, worst idea ever.

        • Tooks

          Wouldnt hurt to try now, I mean, if we have any shot at all we need to score more than we give up. Karlsson on the back end just gives up WAY too many goals against.

          Need to think outside the box now as our regular team isnt gonna make it, that is clear.

          • Pugnacious Serf

            Shot at what, the playoffs, so make this team even more dysfunctional? The easy solution is to sign or trade for a top four defenseman to play with Karlsson and Methot. and stop playing him 30 minutes a game. Desperate and STUPID move to put him on the wing, unless your trying to run him out of town.

          • Tooks

            Our Owner wont pony up the $$$ it takes to land a top 4 D. And nobody will give us one via a trade as we dont have the assets to land one.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      I’m not nearly as against the idea as I have been in the past

  • FistsofNeil25

    Does anyone actually know what Cameron and Reeds’ individual responsibility are? I know Cameron was in charge of running the powerplay, but who the hell is responsible for running the penalty kill?

  • MethotToMyMadness

    Looking at the scoring race, something I always focus on more when the season is winding down, what a strange race it is this year. Crosby leads with 88 points, anyone think he won’t pass the 100 point mark? Kessel and Getzlaf are tied in 2nd with 73, then you have Okposo, Giroux and Seguin in a 3-way tie for 3rd with 69 points. Now that just sounds dirty.

    Do you think anyone of those guys has the ability to jump ahead of Crosby?

    • aegiszx

      Not a chance in hell any of those guys pass Sid. I think he will eclipse 100, easily. Maybe 110. Dude is like 2-3 ppg player… that’s fucking ridiculous…

      • MethotToMyMadness

        Yeah, it’s true, hard to beat him. But he’s now 2 games without a point, I think that’s the longest drought he’s every had, lol

        • aegiszx

          LOL “longest drought” is right. People make a big deal of Kessel or Karlsson going 7 or 8 games without a point, meanwhile Sid goes 1 game and the hockeyworld is turned upside down!

    • Tooks

      Only other guy I can see hitting 100 is Kessel. IF the Leafs got on a hot streak, if not, no chance.

  • WaitingSince92

    Can’t hurt…

  • The Apostle

    One consistent thing we have seen since we’ve had MacLean, Cameron and Reeds is that we have given up a ton of shots. that’s happened regardless of which 6 blueliners are on the roster, and whatever trio of forwards (generally speaking) is playing.

    The previous two seasons are goalies have been able, more often than not, to bail us out. this year they haven’t. Our goalies haven’t been great, but they haven’t completely stunk either. the fact is that if you keep giving up 40+ shots in a game you are going to let in goals and that has a knock-on effect to games where you don’t give up 40+ shots.

    This.more than anything, is what we need to fix. We can’t rely on our goalies being super-human because, well, they aren’t.

    • Tooks

      Well maybe it has to do with the Jersey? I mean it is a big 0…Maybe the stripes? They are pretty ugly too. Stick to the red and white.

  • BFR

    The thing I don’t get is why wasn’t it this way from the start? Didn’t Cameron play as a defenceman, and Reeds play as a forward? Who’s decision was it to have a former defenceman coach the forwards, and a former forward coach defencemen? Cause that doesn’t seem very intuitive.

  • Andrews theory

    I can tell you one thing, the disaster that has been this season goes beyond the players that we have on the ice at any given time.

    Something is significantly wrong behind the scenes and potentially with the system itself.

    I think more than a few influential players are less than happy with the organization these days stemming back to the Alfie fiasco this summer. Karlsson as a starting point i believe has begun to develop a distinct distaste for the club in it’s current form.

    Senators are officially disfunctional and as much as I’d like to blame the whole thing on Chris Phillips or Jared Cowen it just really isn’t that simple.

    • The Apostle

      I don’t think the picture is as black as you paint it but I also don’t think you are completely off base either. There does seem to be an element of discontent surrounding the organisation. At various times this year players have spoken out about issues, some to do with playing, others with the media etc. At some point there is a tipping point.

      I don’t understand why we seem to be making the same mistakes over and over again regardless of who is playing. that sounds like a system or coach issue to me.

  • Spoons

    I don’t know if this Spezza-Hemsky gel is real, but if Murray can’t sign Hemsky this Summer, then I say trade Spezza and Cowen to NAS for Weber. Nashville’s 1st center is Mike Fisher, kind of a joke if you ask me. They NEED someone like Spezza. This would be a fair trade for both sides IMO. This of course, is only if Murray can’t find a suitable winger for Spezza.

    • Matthew Rutldge-Taylor

      Oh Man. I would love that trade! Th Sens could really use a stud defenceman.

  • Roar…

    Yeah, let’s move our NORRIS TROPHY winning defender to the wing. You guys really have lost it. It’s okay not to make the playoffs you know. The team is bottom 5 in spending in the NHL. Hindsight is a bonus but this really is a more predictable result than we want to admit. You get what you pay for. Ottawa didn’t want to pay for a proper defense. Benoit + Gonchar as options = Ottawa in the playoffs. It’s really that simple. Rookie mistakes on the blueline cost us the playoffs. That’s it, that’s all.

    • Tooks

      You do know he won the Norris because of his offensive skills right? He was soooo good offensively that it overshadowed his iffy defensive play. You put him as a FW and no more defensive mistakes and probably the same output in points or more.

      Not saying do it, but it would be awesome to see what he can do upfront!

      • Pugnacious Serf

        You know the Norris trophy is a defenseman award right?

        • Tooks

          Yes won by his offensive skills.

      • Aaron 2.0

        His dominance comes from his skating though. He’s better suited to start the play as a defender. I really don’t get why people want to move him. We’re already short on D!

        • PraiseAlfie11

          Because to many on this board, its all about offense and prospects.

        • Tooks

          He can easily circle like Spezza and get a pass in our defensive zone or even the neutral zone and boom were in the offensive zone.

        • Tooks

          Agreed, maybe his defensive lapses have come as a result of bad partners? Methot seems to be the best partner for him but it seems Karlsson is disinterested in playing Def..

      • EK65

        He was not “iffy” defensively in his Norris season. He was stellar

    • SenaTHOR

      Did you watch Benoit on his goal. In his own end he left his defensive position BEFORE they gained posession. Could have been a disaster. Pure offensive player defensively irresponsible.

  • Tooks

    How to fix the Sens (SC Twitter question) Impossible to say in 140 or less…lol

    Play Phillips as 5-6-7th D or else buyout or trade.
    Try and trade Cowen to EDM or WPG.
    Try and trade Condra, Greening…
    Promote Claesson, Schneider, Robinson.
    Re-sign Hemsky to 3 years 15 Mil.
    Fire Cameron and Reeds, let Maclean bring in his peeps.

    Line them up like this for training camp.

    MacArthur Spezza Hemsky
    Ryan Turris Karlsson
    Schneider Zibanejad Hoffman
    Robinson Smith Neil

    Methot Ceci/Karlsson
    Boro Claesson/Ceci
    Wiercioch Gryba/Claesson

    Anderson
    Lehner

    • Aaron 2.0

      You bring up an interesting point. MacLean didn’t get to choose his staff. Instead he was forced to keep his competitors for the main coaching job as assistants. Come to think of it, that’s kind of weird.

      • Ghost of Moose Vasko

        Cameron is Melnyk’s boyfriend – his spy in the room.

    • Ghost of Moose Vasko

      YEESH – instead of trying to turn EK65 into a winger why not just trade him
      for the 2 or 3 very good players that Ottawa needs ?

      • Tooks

        Or this…but people will hunt you down even tho you might be on to something.

        • FistsofNeil25

          Let’s trade Karlsson because he’s shown a disinterest in playing defense this year, even though he is still far from out worst defender, and is our best offensive player. Seems like a great idea.

          • Tooks

            What if Karlsson brought back MacKinnon, O’Reilly and Benoit or Simmonds, Schenn & Schenn. or Eberle, Yakupov and Larsen…

            I mean at one point the rewards overpower what the 1 player can do.

            Never said trade em but IF they continue to falter defensively and Karlsson keep getting disinterested, he will ask to be traded and once a players asks to be traded you pretty much lose all value for him.

          • FistsofNeil25

            This season is clearly taking its toll on you buddy. You think Karlsson can land packages of:

            MacKinnon+O’Reilly+Benoit

            Simmonds+Schenn+Schenn

            or Eberle +Yakupov+Larsen

            is this what you’re saying?

    • FistsofNeil25

      How anyone gave this roster a +1 is beyond me. Schneider, Robinson, Karlsson on forward, Ceci on the top pairing, Claesson and Wideman as top 4 without ever playing a minute in the NHL, and a bottom pairing of Boro and Alex Grant.

      Tookie, if your goal is to tank for McDavid then this is the roster to do it. I’m on board!

      • Tooks

        Well its much better to have players that can skate and play a high tempo game than have Phillips or Cowen in there. Experience aint everything, would I prefer they had a few years played in the NHL, suire, but we dont have that, what they have is AHL years under their belt. They have to start in the NHL one day.

        Wideman is 25 and pretty much rdy for the NHL.
        Grant is the same, 24 and put up good numbers in the AHL.
        Claesson is a stud and should be in the NHL next year.

        I’ll make it a bit easier for you. Put Karlsson back on D and it would look like this:

        Methot Karlsson
        PW46/Claesson Ceci
        Boro Wideman
        Grant

        Whats makes a huge diff is most played together as partners in the AHL, chemistry is there, fast and mobile, skill and grit. Hungry.

      • Sandy

        I was thinking the same thing. Schneider is totally unproven in the NHL. Robinson, from what I have read earlier this season, is not playing the best in the AHL.. Claesson is unproven as well.
        Connor McDavid would be the prize at the end of next season..

  • Andrews theory

    Karlsson’s summary of the Senators Olympic tribute after the Olympics sums up his impression of the club currently INMHO.
    This season, he’s tried to over compensate for the teams weaknesses and in doing so hangs himself out to dry on a regular basis.
    One significant difference in this years Karlsson is that when he gets beat or out of position, he doesnt seem to have the same desperation to get back and fix it…to me that’s a morale issue.

    • 4thStringGoalie

      What was Karlsson’s impression of Olympic tribute? I missed that. It must have actually been an awkward thing for the Sens to do with Karlsson and Alfie on the losing swedish team and the coach of Canada your opponent that night.

      • Andrews theory

        They completely dropped the ball and looked like a Mickey Mouse organization in the process by doing the tribute “after” the home game asking fans to stick around. If they were going to do it, it should have been done before the game… really a complete brain fart on the part of the club.

  • EK65

    I will not play winger.

    • Tooks

      You sure look like you want to.

      • Andrews theory

        hahahahah
        touche

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      Then stop playing for the other team half the time.
      TOOKS 100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Andrews theory

    How to Fix the Sens this offseason;

    To me it all starts at the top, the very top. Eugene must go… He’s underminded the morale of the entire organization from GM to equipment manager and cut corners well beyond the on ice roster.

    Money might not fix everything but it’ll fix the Senators.

    Icing on the cake would be Paul Maclean getting a vote of conifdence. The constant statement from him that he’s scared to death for his job isn’t healthy for anybody in my opinion.

    Insecurity breeds insecurity.

    • Aaron 2.0

      Obviously $ is a concern. But, even w/ a budget, I think you’re right – Ownership needs to take a hands-off approach and let everybody do their job. There’s not really any hard evidence to say this is what’s happening (not known to me anyways). But, I feel there’s a good chance our owner hasn’t helped anything (even taking into account that a market like Ottawa might not realistically support a cap team).

  • MethotToMyMadness

    Reading the Mendes, 10 games that likely cost the Senators a playoff spot, has really put a bad taste in my mouth. As much as I watch the games and keep in tune, I just didn’t recall how many final minute loses we suffered. I mean, to hold a lead that many times and just blow it, it has to be a Organization record or something. Just scary.

    • Andrews theory

      it’s a clear sign of something that is culturally wrong with the team. Look at the last minutes losses but also look at the amount of games they started down 0-2….
      as MacLean said earlier in the year, “at some point you have to realize you are what your are:”

    • Senators Pundit

      Can you link that pls?

      • Senators Pundit

        Stupid question, I just Googled it.

      • Sandy

        It’s on TSN website..

    • Senators Pundit

      Jesus. Just read this article. It’s amazing any of us are still sane after this season. Multiple epic collapses against our most hated rivals, and the weakest teams in the NHL. This season really has been torture.

  • Ghost of Moose Vasko

    Soooo – “upper management” is now telling the Ottawa coaches how to coach ?

    Eugene Melnyk = George Steinbrenner 2.0 ?

    If only he had Steinbrenner’s money to spend on the team.

    • Simple Jack

      dont be like that, BM coached us to the finals, he knows a thing or two about coaching.

      • TookieIs100PercentRight

        Easiest team t ocaoch in his life. He just had to open the door for the Pizza Line and open the taps. He couldn’t solve the Ducks and the team tanked afterward, showing it to be a one-hit wonder, basically. Also, that’s the ONLY time he’d coached a team past the second round of the playoffs.
        TOOKS100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Simple Jack

    I dont want a new owner, nor am i going to shit on a guy who’s willing to make less dollars by keeping it in ottawa. I cant trust a new owner, who might relocate the team into a more lucrative market.

    • Andrews theory

      That doesn’t get decided by an owner, that gets decided by the league and there is currently no appetite to move the team out of Ottawa. Furthermore, there are a ton of people interested in a acquiring a franchise with deep pockets.

      Buying a sports franchise and specifcally an NHL team is extremely profitable.

      Where this get lost in translation is that the money to be made stems from reselling the team in 5-10 years. Looking historically Franchises double in value in less than 10 years….

    • HarvardYaleAndPrincetonMan

      You mean like the several people that tried to buy and move the Phoenix team ?

      The NHL does NOT like to move its teams.

      • Simple Jack

        if a new owner bought the sens and wanted to move it to quebec or the GTA it would be ideal for the nhl to relocate the small market sens for a fee to the nhl.

        it could happen, its only a few hundred km’s away.

        • Andrews theory

          Quebec may get a franchise but it wont be the Senators and it wont be anytime soon.

        • HarvardYaleAndPrincetonMan

          Quebec is about to go through another round of REFERENDUM INSANITY – not the market that the NHL will be looking at for a long time.

      • Sensnation

        Which NHL have you been following? The only teams they don’t like to move are the ones in US markets they need for their US tv deal. You used Phoenix as an example, but Atlanta moved almost overnight.

        The history of the NHL shows they move teams pretty often.

  • HarvardYaleAndPrincetonMan

    Budget team = Budger results

    • Simple Jack

      i’d have to say leadership was the break down, from the management, to the coaches to the leader on the ice. the whole team is lost.

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    Wowzers I don’t even know that I could make it any more sunshine and rainbows in here if I tried!

    U honestly don’t even know what I want to do with this team in the off season

  • boom

    blow it up real good?

  • Roar…

    Trade some of the accumulated prospects/picks for 1-2 Top Four D-Men. Most likely one, then re-evaluate whether you need a second. Obviously, attempt to do this through the early days of free agency before making a trade. Look for moneyball type players with good underlying numbers relative to their team-mates / level of competition they played vs. last year. There should be a few guys available that suit the teams needs.

  • Tim

    I remember when Cameron was the B-Sens coach and a huge FIRE CAMERON banner ran the length of the end seats. Was not a favorite here.

    • SensChirp

      He’s Eugene’s favourite though.

      • Roar…

        There have been quite a lot of rumours about Eugene meddling with the team from above. It all goes through him. Sooner he leaves the better. I really wish Sens fans would just revolt against him.

        • HarvardYaleAndPrincetonMan

          Every revolution starts with ONE man

          • Roar…

            Well… the primary issue I forsee is that Melynk could potentially sell the team but keep Sens Sports & Entertainment (aka the Arena). In which case, he’s got us by the balls because the team isn’t the most profitable part of the business.

          • Sensnation

            He’s not selling.

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Then stop going to games…. I get flacked for saying I got rid of my tickets…. No other way to show your displeasure

    • boom

      Have you noticed that whenever MacLean talks to him (during a game), all he does is not his head? A yes-man, perhaps?

  • Sandy

    I’m not angry they are missing the playoffs. Just disappointed. A lot of games frustrated me as well.

    Could we have predicted this season to turn out the way it did? Maybe..

    Last season’s goaltending could not be sustained this year.. Andy has been better lately than he was at the beginning of the season. Lehner.. I don’t know. Could it be rust.. could it be the equipment he had to downsize.. or just his confidence.

    To me the issue is.. the defense has not improved over the season… when it should have.

    Melnyk has to spend on the structure behind the players. What is needed is an experienced former NHL defenseman to work with the D.. someone like Richardson or Galley — what about Randy Cunneyworth. Also need an asst coach with NHL experience.

    The Sens have young players in the lineup that need to develop — and they will.
    Michalek.. (if he is back), Spezza & Cowen can train this offseason rather than spending it rehabbing…

    Melnyk has to pony up the $$$ to re-sign Ryan… and Methot..

    If Melnyk is going to continue to operate at the cap floor then this team will just constantly be in a re-build mode. When the good young players get to the point in their careers that they are asking for 5M+ — then they will leave as UFA or traded..

    He’s getting a great deal of money from TV rights.. he could spend some of that.. If he can’t.. then he has to go.

    • runningbear1974

      This sucks really bad for me especially… Everyone seems to believe that Spezza has been kicking ass lately… Therefore, he’s our saviour next year… I believe Spezza is a coaching nightmare… He does what he does whether good idea or not, he’s not great on defense… I can’t imagine coaching this team with the amount of ice time Spezza as our #1 centre deserves..

    • PraiseAlfie11

      Sandy…check out the citizen story. They address the “was it the goalies” question you had a couple of days ago.

  • Sandy

    Do we know how many of the NCAA or CHL players will be coming into Binghamton for next season?
    There may be too many to fill the spots in Binghamton. Decisions will have to be made with guys like Prince, DaCosta, etc..

    • Roar…

      If we miss on what should be an NHL player in Da Costa I will lose my shit. He was nothing short of excellent in his call-up. Driving possession and scoring. Two things this team needs from the bottom 6. Ridiculous that he’s not playing right now.

      • Jacques

        I agree DaCOSTA will be a star elsewhere cuz we’re too damn stupid!

  • Roar…

    You know what really gets me mad? I think we’d probably be in a playoff spot right now if Da Costa was still up with the big club. Instead, we elected to save a hundred grand or so.

    Imagine if we had:
    Hoffman-Da Costa-Zibanejad

    A Binghamton trio on the 3rd line. Instead, we play Condra in that slot. We watch Greening play and endless amount of minutes when either he or Neil shouldn’t even be in the lineup. That’s everything that’s wrong with this team right there. It’s brutal. It’s frustrating. We could be so much better except for this penny pinching bastard ruining everything. It’s beyond aggravating.

    • Sensnation

      Neil shouldn’t even be in the lineup eh? lol

      • Roar…

        Neil or Greening. Pick one, remove the other. Neither does anything in terms of hockey. They just skate around hitting people uselessly, take bad penalties, and cost the team possession time by taking away ice from more significant team assets.

        I’m all for having a guy who can bang around AND play well. Like David Backes for example. This useless one-dimensional shit. Not so much. Neil probably plays for “leadership” but at least one of Greening or Neil should be out of the lineup to make room for better players.

        • Jacques

          I agree Neil is on serious decline plus all the stupid penalties, and Greening well just forget about this guy!

    • runningbear1974

      It sucks this year more time spent on our veterans than on our rookies…

    • FistsofNeil25

      Da Costa doesn’t provide anything to this team to help it overcome it’s defensive incompetence. We would not be in a playoff spot with him in the line-up.

    • Tooks

      This is funny…

    • Jacques

      I’ve been saying it, he was our best player between beginning of January and the Olympic break and we don’t recall him after the Olympics! The third line should’ve been

      Hoffman-DaCosta-Zibby

  • Sensnation

    It’s going to be a long summer in here!

    Truth is this team mainly just needs time. There will be a few changes over the summer but most of the core will remain intact. Meanwhile just about every player, coach and management personnel will be blamed. There’s plenty of blame to go around, but overall our rebuild has literally been 2 steps forward 1 step back, not the end of the world in my books.

    • HarvardYaleAndPrincetonMan

      Truth is this team mainly just needs MONEY

      • Sensnation

        How many Kovalevs and Gonchars are we from making the playoffs?

        • HarvardYaleAndPrincetonMan

          16 teams with higher payrolls will be in the playoffs this year
          2 spending to near the salary cap will play for the Cup

          • Sensnation

            According to Capgeek Colorado has a lower payroll!

            Dallas is also only a Gonchar ahead. I’m fine not having an extra Gonchar and/or Kovalev type to have given some extra time to younger players this year.

          • BFR

            Landeskog and MacKinnon are on ELC. That will change next year when Landeskog makes 4.5 Mil in salary.

          • Sensnation

            Ceci, Zibanejad, Lehner and I guarantee if we get Hemsky to come back it’s for more than 2mil.

          • Roar…

            Facepalm* – Please tell me how any of those Ottawa players are anywhere close to being paid 6M per year. As all 3 of those Colorado players will be paid that much as soon as they are able to sign a new contract. I.E. they are BETTER, MORE ESTABLISHED players. I.E. Colorado is BETTER for CHEAPER because they have GREAT players playing for LESS MONEY. Saying Ottawa is the same is retarded. I’m done talking with someone this fucking stupid…

          • Sensnation

            Excuse me? WTF is your problem. You are mad that what I didn’t say, is retarded? You’re skilled man, enjoy the stupidity. Maybe you can learn to read a bit.

            Roar rhymes with Whore, so you must be a total slut. How can I talk to a slut, so stupid.

          • BFR

            Tack on O’Reilly who is an RFA getting paid 6.5 Mil.

          • SensChirp

            And Stastny needs a new deal. And O’Reilly. And Varlamov’s cap hit going way up. And Barrie on an ELC. Pretty unique circumstances in Colorado this season.

          • Sensnation

            As a small market team though we are currently lining up our own “unique” scenario as well. Hopefully keeping Lehner’s renewal down, signing Cowen long term so that it hopefully is a discount in a couple years, Lazar and Ceci will still be on ELCs then. Turris and MacArthur are both signed well under market value. And there may even be a chance to re-sign Hemsky at below value as well.

          • Jacques

            That’s why Colorado should’ve moved Stastny, let’s hope the Sens don’t make the same mistake!

          • Simple Jack

            how many times have the rangers and leafs won the cup in the last 20 years while spending to the heavens?

          • HarvardYaleAndPrincetonMan

            Yessssss – spending the money wisely is also part of the success formula

          • Sensnation

            And skill, and coaching and luck, and 1st year in unbalanced conferences … and many more factors are involved.

          • Simple Jack

            i agree no need to panic, but we need to clear some space and bring some of the bingo boys up.

            we need to figure out the futures of gryba, cowen, weircroitch, condra, greening, michalek, hemsky

            most need to go to make room for younger and hopefully better prospects.

          • Sensnation

            Most? 1 of Wiercioch, Gryba or Boro could be moved, same with Michalek, but I would expect 1 of Hemsky or Michalek to still be here, and same with 1 of Condra or Greening. Cowen isn’t going anywhere unless it’s an overpay.

          • Roar…

            Nobody is taking Greening’s contract. Condra will be here.

          • FistsofNeil25

            When was the last time a team won the cup without spending near the cap? Obviously there are examples year after year of teams spending foolishly and not getting the results.

            The teams that win the cup every year are teams that spend to the cap and spend wisely. This season there are 22 teams that are spending to within 2.5 million of the cap. Only one of those teams will win the Stanley Cup. Does that mean the rest of those teams spent carelessly like the Rangers and Leafs have in the past? No, but you have to spend if you want to be the last team standing.

          • Sensnation

            In a small market you have spend at the right time, and this was not the year to go all in on. In a year and half when Melnyk has the tv revenue and the team is another year older there will be a very strong case to spend more and I believe we willl see it happen.

          • Roar…

            Then why say stupid shit to the fans like “We’re going for it!” when the team is giving up draft picks to not pay half of Hemsky’s salary. It’s nonsense. Either say “We’re conserving money to make a run later, and focusing on the development of our young team” and present the message that way. Or say you’re going for it. Don’t lie to the fans.

          • TookieIs100PercentRight

            Carolina did but I think it was the year the cap happened or just after, so they just had the right positioning. You for sure need to spend more than 56 mil to win a Cup these days, too bad Melnyk is an idjit and doesn’t realize it.
            TOOKS100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • do due dew doodoo

            How many bottom level payroll teams make the Playoffs every year ?

      • runningbear1974

        Paying Spezza and Phillips more money will not fix the team… It’s not the money that’s the problem, its the quality of player that comes sometimes with higher pay…

        • Roar…

          What are you even talking about? He’s obviously not suggesting the team spend more money on Phillips. T_T

          • runningbear1974

            more money is NOT the solution… better players is the solution…

          • BFR

            Those better players like being paid what they are worth, which is more than Melnyk is willing to spend.

          • runningbear1974

            Alfie is the only player that we did not sign because of money… And i think that had more to do with some kind of fight rather than money… There isn’t one player that is not on our team because of the money…
            Everyone wants top players… No one will just give them to you… Top players can usually choose where they play… Probably not choosing Ottawa…

          • BFR

            You both confirmed and denied in the same comment. Nice work!

          • runningbear1974

            1) I don’t believe more money is the solution… I’m not sure which words made it sound like I do believe it…
            2) Melnyk has yet to demonstrate that he’s not willing to pay the money (Alfie doesn’t count, because Alfie wasn’t willing to negotiate, he wanted more from us than he was willing to take from another team)

          • BFR

            Then you do not understand statistics or probability. The team spends bottom 5 in the league, and that significantly decreases their chances of making the playoffs.

            You stated “Alfie is the only player that we did not sign because of money…” then you proceeded to state that “There isn’t one player that is not on our team because of the money…”

            And you can’t discount Alfie because he is the posterboy for the problem everyone is talking about the cheapness of the owner.

            Alfie decided NOT Ottawa, then negotiated with the team he felt most comfortable with.

      • Roar…

        Just ignore Sens Nation. The statistics are quite clear. Spending correlates with winning. It is not a guarantee of winning, but not spending is a sure guarantee of losing.

        Spend effectively, is what we want. SensNation your “Colorado” example is tragically flawed. How many good to great players do they have on ELC right now? There you go. That’s the reason. The only reason they have that cap room is because guy’s like Lando, O’Reilly and MacKinnon haven’t been paid their due yet. How much cap room do you think they will have left after those players get their contracts genius?

        • Sensnation

          How much cap room will we have when Lehner, Zibanejad, Ceci, Hoffman are off their ELCs?

          You don’t spend stupidly during a rebuild in a small market. That’s the most important statistic.

          • Roar…

            That’s retarded. Lehner, Zibanejad, Ceci & Hoffman. What do they have in common? None of them have accomplished as much as O’Reilly, MacKinnon or Lando. IN fact. All of them combined haven’t accomplished as much as any single one of the 3 lol. Our guys might eventually get paid, but all 3 of those Colorado guys have already proven they are worth 5-6M per year and they’ll all get it.

          • Sensnation

            The argument is about salary cap and team salary. No matter if our guys are as good or not, they will still command more money and it will come as soon as this offseason for some. So either way unless we don’t re-sign current players, the salary will go up.

            But ya what I said was retarded lol

          • FistsofNeil25

            I don’t know what kind of cash you expect those guys to be making off of their ELC’s. Definitely not Landeskog or Duchene type money but that’s besides the point.

            It’s been almost three full seasons now since the organization began it’s rebuild. It shouldn’t be a surprise to people that Melnyk hasn’t been willing to spend. The problem is that Melnyk, being the loud mouth that he is, has to come out mid-way through this season as we’re struggling to take hold of a playoff spot and say that “we’re going all in to win the cup in the next couple seasons”. In the very next breath he says “hold on now, that doesn’t mean we’re going to be spending more money”.

            When an owner tells his team’s fans that he’s going all in to win a cup, that changes the fans expectations. Fans are going to expect this guy to spend money and spend it soon.

      • Tooks

        A well educated guess?

      • Sandy

        No., it needs an Owner who has money. Not one who sucks the team dry to fund his failing outside enterprises..

    • runningbear1974

      Nope, not the end of the world… But, the Ottawa senators have established an identity… We were trying to go with a winning tradition, but that fizzled out without any winning… Now, we’re going with veterans… We’ve always been more “skilled” but less effort… We were just skilled… Then skilled with defensive effort… Now, we’re somewhere in between… No doubts we have skill… But, we lack heart, and we lack wisdom… We are establishing a tradition, but it’s not a good winning tradition… We don’t deserve respect from the refs, from the league, from other team fans… Last year we were earning that respect, this year we lost all of that we the types of effort we put in…

      • Sensnation

        Fizzled out? Miss the playofs ONE TIME in a 3 year rebuild and it’s falling apart haha. DOOM AND GLOOM!!!

        • runningbear1974

          Last year is being considered a fluke because of goalie playing exceptionally well… 2 years ago just made the playoffs… Yes, doom and gloom for next 2 years for sure… Depending who we choose to be our go-to guys…
          It wasn’t a mistake we played this way this year… My bet to you is that next year we play closer to how we played this year, rather than, how we played last year…
          We won the AHL thingy a few years back… We won 1 round of playoffs last year… That’s our winning tradition…

          • Sensnation

            Patience young grasshopper.

          • runningbear1974

            We’ve had Spezza and Phillips for last 10 years… Another 1 or 2 years should make the difference… Just a little more patience…

          • Sensnation

            Spezza and Phillips aren’t who we are waiting another year or two for. The cup run during Spezza’s prime was what we waited for him for, don’t think anyone’s saying keep waiting for his next prime. I know this English language stuff is complex though.

          • runningbear1974

            I partially agree with you… Don’t understand your comments about the english language…
            If his prime already happened, and it wasn’t good enough to win big, then why would it be good enough now… I personally believe because of how weird Spezza plays that it’s impossible to win with him as our #1 centre (it’s never been done, #1 centres are always dependable defensively)… However, if he had a lesser role, like a 3rd line centre, then maybe, because he wouldn’t get so much focus… My belief… As a secondary piece, yes, as the saviour, no…

        • Sandy

          I wonder .. if the Sens missed the playoffs the last 2 seasons… would the fans be as upset this year. Are they expecting too much?

          • runningbear1974

            You’re partially right… I’m upset because of how fun the team was last year… I didn’t really like the team 2 years ago… I was starting to a little (i love Carkner, he’s a potential solution for our team)… But last year, when it started feeling there’s a new generation, i started getting excited again…

      • Sandy

        Respect from the refs? They should not respect one team or another..
        Their job is to call the game by the rules… not who they respect..

        • runningbear1974

          Sure… There’s what should be, and there’s what is… I actually remember before Detroit started winning cups… They were laughed at because they hadn’t won in a really long time… They lost against worse teams in the first round…They got bad reffing calls… Then Yzerman turned the team around… or something like that… They played a tough smart system… They started winning and they played tough while doing it (not intimidating, but refusing to be intimidated)… Then the calls started coming their way, and now i think they’re one of the more privileged reffing cities…
          Ottawa has not done that… We’ve done the opposite… We whine when we shouldn’t… We call “wolf” when we shouldn’t… Last year more than this year we’d take stupid retaliatory penalties, like slashing (which is considered a non-manly type penalty)… I don’t know how to say it but some teams and/or players earn the respect… I don’t know how to explain it, but we haven’t…

  • FistsofNeil25

    This should be a really interesting summer for Sens fans. Murray can’t afford for this team to start next season with Spezza, Ryan, and Methot all as UFA’s at the end of the year. That would be a major distractions for the team and the fans.

    I think the first thing Murray has to do is decide what direction he wants to take with Spezza. I’ve heard rumblings that Spezza isn’t exactly a Murray type of player, but if those rumors were true then why is he still on the team and why is he the captain? It all depends on what kind of money and term Spezza wants to remain as a Senator. If they can re-sign him to a short term extension like 2, 3 or even 4 years then I can see him remaining here for at least a few more years. If he wants a long-term deal of 5 or 6+ years then I can see Murray pulling the trigger on a trade. Either way, I believe management will explore the trade market for him this summer. If the price is right, I can see the Sens cashing out on their captain. If he is traded, it will be very difficult to replace the offense he brings to the team and Murray knows that.

    Then they will have to address the Ryan situation. This summer is the time to gauge his interest in re-signing with the club. If he’s interested remaining a Senator, then I’m sure a deal can be hammered out. If he doesn’t show much of a desire to be here, then Murray has to explore a trade as soon as possible. His value will one decrease as next season moves closer to the deadline. We all know that we can’t afford to see Bobby walk away from this team for nothing considering what we traded for him.

    • Sensnation

      Spezza finally has a good linemate, has always been close with BM, and really showed that when the team was against the odds he was bringing his best. Not sure how any of that equates to Spezza being gone, but as I said earlier gonna be a long summer in here.

      • runningbear1974

        Sad for me that people believe Spezza will be our saviour… Playing Spezza as our #1 centre, is showing the league how we want our identity… We want SPEZZA… He’s our man… Now if we can just get the rest of the players on the team to play like him… By the way, I feel Karlsson has been playing like Spezza this year, and I don’t know if he’ll ever recover…

        • Sensnation

          Play like Spezza? Man, you are taking a slice and running for a mile.

          • Roar…

            Spezza has been excellent the past month or so. He’s creeping up on point-per-game. Pretty easy argument that he’s been our best player along with Karlsson down the stretch. He is a captain. Just watch his post-game interviews. His demeanor has completely changed in the past year. You can see the leadership role growing in the way he speaks and the expectations he has for himself and his teammates. I wouldn’t be at all keen to let him go unless the return was O’Reilly+ in other words, a fair return.

          • runningbear1974

            Yes… Play like Spezza… Whatever decision you may has risk… Something good or bad might happen… There’s a saying… Hope for the best, but plan for the worst… Both Spezza and Karlsson plan for the best, and aren’t prepared for the worse…
            Both players do whatever they want, regardless if it’s a good idea or not, and what they want is outside of any system i’m aware of…
            Both players require the rest of the team to adjust to them,because they won’t adjust to you…
            Watching Karlsson play, i’m becoming more and more scared of how he’s developing…

          • A-Train

            Wow…it certainly is going to be a very, very long summer and beyond.

            I haven’t lived in Ottawa for about 15 years, though I’m not all that far away and make it back for a few home games a season.

            Commenters like this one…I just don’t know what to say. I don’t mean to make it personal — because there seems to be a big segment of the online fanbase that thinks this way — but I will never understand you or what you’re looking for when you watch a game.

          • runningbear1974

            I like good skaters… I like good decisions… Good hitting… Good team support…
            Early in the season the Turris line were making tons of little errors, but because each of them were there to support each other, they minimized the outcome of those mistakes… It was great to watch…
            I do not like Spezza’s overall play, but i do agree he has some very special moments (unfortunately i don’t think you can depend on that against elite competition, especially if refs against you)…
            Karlsson rushes hard every single play… If only he would do it sometimes… But every single play… Come on… The forwards have to stay back to defend him just in case… You can’t trust him to make good decisions right now… I just hope this isn’t permanent… I hope he’s learning that this doesn’t work… You know, realistically he could come up with the opposite conclusion, maybe i need to rush in more often…
            My all time favourite is probably Yzerman, maybe Sakic… I’m loving Bergeron now.. Turris is becoming one of my favourites as well…

        • SensChirp

          This comment infuriates me. I know you’re a leader in the Spezza-hating crowd but to blame issues you feel exist in Karlsson’s game on Spezza is just ridiculous.

          • Sensnation

            Gonna be 6 months of this in here Chirp. Buckle up!

          • runningbear1974

            I feel the same about comments about Spezza being our Saviour…
            We made fun of the leafs for signing Phaneuf… Do you think there are guys on our team that other teams make fun of?

          • Sandy

            Then why are you a fan of this team? Why not cheer for one that only wins?
            If you can’t support a team through the rough patches… then maybe you should just change the team you support.

          • runningbear1974

            I like Van Allen, Bruce Gardiner… I like Cunneyworth… I like Turris, and Zibanejad… I like Ceci… I like a lot of the players… I love Bobby Ryan… I like a lot of the players…
            Look… My perspective… The fans voted for afternoon games… We got afternoon games… The fans voted for Spezza, we got Spezza…
            The fans don’t necessarily know what is good for them… You still seem to love Alfie, even though he signed with another team for 1.5 mill more… I think it was convenient for him to play here, and he stayed as long as it was… It seemed like he was loyal, but in the end he PROVED he’s not… Blame whoever you want… He decided where he wanted to be…
            Yeah, I will not pay to see Spezza… That is not the type of hockey I want to encourage.. It has never been winning strategy… It won’t suddenly become it…

          • runningbear1974

            I’m not a hater of Spezza… I try and be respectful towards him… I think he’s a family guy, and I value that… But, I hate how he plays, I don’t want my kids to play like that… I also don’t think it’s a winning strategy… That weird stuff he does, doesn’t work against the best teams, especially when the refs are not calling in your favour…
            I sympathize with the coach also… How can you coach someone like Spezza?
            I’m not blaming Spezza for Karlsson… But, both are the same to me… Both do whatever they want whether it’s a good strategy or not… Both of them make it really hard to coach… Don’t know what they’ll do, do you set up a system to cover their butts…
            Just so it’s clear… I don’t hate Spezza… I don’t like the way he plays… And, I don’t think it’s a winning strategy…

          • TookieIs100PercentRight

            TSN Wally implied as much on the radio today. He said management wants Spezza to hold himself accountable and so on.
            So maybe it’s time to start asking some hard questions about him?
            INB4 He’s a point per game player and great in the community….

            TOOKS100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • FistsofNeil25

        I never said he will be gone. I’m just saying that given his injury history and contract situation, the team will likely explore the option of trading him.

        There’s also the very real possibility that at this point in his career he won’t want to re-sign with a budget team when he will have a better chance of winning a cup elsewhere.

        • Sensnation

          If they decide to split mutually I’m all for it, I just don’t think that’s what Spezza’s been showing. He’s worked his ass off his whole career to finally be seen as a captain, and despite what a lot of fans may think in his first season with the C he really grew into the roll from start to now. When Spezza is interviewed, or leading the charge, I do feel like he is the man for the job and I strongly believe it’s a job he wants.

          • FistsofNeil25

            Alfie never showed his desire to leave either until one day he was just gone. These things happen.

          • Sensnation

            Yup and I’m ok with it. I see 2 possible futures for this team, 1 is Spezza continues leading the rebuild and is still around for the climax cup run(s) in 2+years or second he leaves over the next year and the next generation takes over. Either way though it will progress to that point, and there’s no need to rush it this summer.

      • Jacques

        Spezza is going to get traded at the draft! Don’t fool yourselves, it’s just nice he’s putting up points to look better right now! Let’s get a good return and move on, wouldn’t be shocked if Ryan was moved as well to Philly. It’s going to be a crazy summer.

        • runningbear1974

          I think signing Phillips means we’re probably leaning towards re-signing Spezza too…

  • boom

    So, we completely choke on Saturday night in the last 4 minutes, and then lose to a team that everyone admits is considerably better than us, so we should blame:
    1 – Melnyk
    2- Spezza (our best forward for ther last 10 games)

    Interesting analysis.

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Tough season for us all and im sure its been tough within the sens organization. I know something is going on between PM and the assistants. When we do miss the playoffs(wow i just when). it wont be a big deal because I think this core group needs some time to gel.I know we will be a playoff team next year if changes are made with assistants and some defense. I really think we need to sign Methot and Bobby Ryan. Frustrated season but then again a win tomorrow and I may have a bit of hope

  • Tooks

    Some interesting comments from @tsn_wally today. “Things are not well in the #Sens organization right now.”

    No surprise here, for those who cant hear it, here are some comments:

    At a few levels. Starts at the top. Don’t think mgmt is an issue. Coaching staff not all on the same page. And some players.

    Seemed to suggest that maybe the Coaching staff wasn’t all on the same page. Didn’t really elaborate though

    What did he say about Spez?

    “Needs to play harder”

    The whole interview is worth listening to. Wallace didn’t sugarcoat and was pretty blunt. I trust him and his sources

    you can also sense in his tone that there is a much more he, as a journalist who needs access, can’t say

    • FistsofNeil25

      Have a link to the interview bud?

      • BFR
      • laffin681021

        look at “tweets” on the right hand side of the page next the the article. It’s a shame that this is happening though.

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      I really think its the coaches man..We have seen at times players being frustrated with them. This team needs a mini shake up. I have kind of excited for the off season

      • Moudy Mahfouz

        am*

      • Sandy

        Maybe it’s time the Toronto media, of which Wallace is a part of, just concentrate on the centre of the universe…

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    We all know something within the organization has been diminishing the Sens attitude all season and I really think its the coaches. Fire the assistants, I have hope in Maclean

    • Sandy

      I hope that is what happens…

    • runningbear1974

      We have to decide what our identity is going to be… So far, I really like what Maclean represents… He has an identity I can stand behind… (even if I don’t necessarily agree with all his decisions)

  • Sensnation

    We all just need a little of what these guys are drinking

    OH YEAH!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYS7aQY1iZI

  • FistsofNeil25

    That Brent Wallace interview wasn’t worth the listen to be honest. What did he say that any person who has followed this team this season doesn’t already know?

    • A-Train

      It isn’t WHAT he said, it’s the fact that a beat reporter felt he COULD say something like that. Shows you there’s something to it…but like I said above, take this all with a grain of salt. It’s the inevitable biproduct of a bad season.

  • FBP

    There was an angry drunken e-mail?

    • SensChirp

      There are certainly rumours about an email, yes. Have never been able to
      confirm. Believe we’ve talked about it here before though.

      • Sandy

        To me, if true, that is why this guy has to sell the team….

      • Sensturion

        What exactly was the drunken e-mail?

        • TookieIs100PercentRight

          Allegedly told Alfie that he’d not be getting the money he wanted here or anywhere.

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    Hmmmm… Not breaking any news here, but sorta had an epiphany… If McLean can’t stand his assistant coaches, maybe that is why he is making so many absolutely horrible decisions… He wants his own guys and is trying to get rid of them

    • Sandy

      Maybe some of the on ice decisions during a game are given to the assistants…

  • FistsofNeil25

    So when Maclean got his 3 year contract extension last summer, were Reeds and Cameron re-signed along with him or are their contracts expiring after this season?

  • Doc

    Some “rumours” are bound to surface in the coming months, and even though some might not help with the current image of the Sens, they will at least shed some light as to what is going on in behind the scenes.

    I hope they do, and I hope the fans act accordingly.

    • Hax

      Painful as it would be, I’d be happy to see some sort of “tell all” come out if it meant that ultimately we cleaned house and fixed the problem.

      • FistsofNeil25

        But when the problems start with the guy who owns the team, how do we fixed them problems?

        • Doc

          “I hope the fans act accordingly.”

          • bluebuyyoo

            What is your definition of “act accordingly”? Stop buying tickets?

          • SenaTHOR

            We are fans and hopefuly not fairweather, Support the team and if you are so distraught and this is SO important to you, then don’t go to the games, happens all the time.

          • Doc

            You’re missing the point. If you rather turn a blind eye to what is happening to YOUR favourite NHL team and support it without asking questions, then by all means go ahead. Blind faith is absurd and helps no one.

            But stop complaining that the on-ice product is sub-par or that it’s player X’s fault, or the coach, or the moon cycle, etc. You have no clue what’s going on behind the scene. By all accounts, it’s NOT GOOD.

            Every time someone sheds some light on the situation they are labelled shit disturbers or fair-weather and such. It’s pathetic.

          • SenaTHOR

            Most faith is blind faith. I don’t like the Sens losing but I sure in the hell have a lot more important issues than the sad state of affairs on a fn hockey team. I have my views but all they are is views. If this is encompassing you…well?

          • Doc

            Good lord… To begin with, you’re assuming a lot of things. Nobody’s missing any sleep or anything of the sort.

            The sad reality is that our team is being run poorly and people are blaming the wrong persons.

            Second, I’m not a casual fan. If you don’t mind having a sub-par product on the ice, then that’s part of the problem. Nobody said anything about putting hockey above more important things. This is a blog about our team, and fans have a right to ask questions.

          • SenaTHOR

            I not sure what is next to casual, I guess that is where I am . I played the game, coached the game, and love the game for the entertainment it provides. I have views of the team but realize that the hired NHL people surely know more about the game than me. I trust that they will do the best they can with the resources they have. The team will have to make changes to improve that is a forgiven. I am sure there are many behind the scene issues, on the ice issues, that have made this team not play cohesively.

          • Doc

            That, I agree on.

            Fans tend to rationalize losing and in turn want to lay the blame on someone. Fact is, nobody really knows unless you’re really close to the team.

            But in this case, lots of factors seem to have the same common point which has a lot of people worried. Myself included.

      • Doc

        That’s my hope.

  • esk

    from what i can remember about the email from the rumours ..it was Melnyk being like wtf alfie? you want 6 mill!?!?! your not worth that much?! calm down!! Then Melnyk told murray to sign him.. he will pay whatever he wants…but it was too late, damage was done.

  • SensGod

    We couldn’t have tried this, you know, when we still had a prayer of making the playoffs?

  • Miguel

    sorry to bring up old wounds, but this brutal ref wound is way too deep for me.
    I have been a long standing Sens fan since they came back to the league, and previous to that Habs fan when we did not have a team, so I have seen both sides
    Never was it so obvious that it does not matter if/when the refs make calls that hurts the Sens. Us diehards have been suffering this for many agonizing years… and Saturdays fiasco can only prove that outside of Ottawa, the rest of the NHL is fine with brutal reffing as long as it is not any of the big market teams.
    If this were a one off… fine, a few times ok, but to the degree that we get completely screwed in many games, is no longer a coincedence!
    Is there a conspiracy against the sens… of course not, but there is certainly something to this horseshit we are continually being served to us as fans.
    Here is my attempt at an explanation:
    Hockey is a big business, that first and foremost makes plenty of revenue.
    Hockey is way to fast to officiate by humans ( or idiots if your a sens fan ) to make 100% accurate calls all the time… mistakes will always happen in every single game.
    When the officials make a mistake against any team, no one is allowed to make any comments degrading the refs or there is fines – revenues
    However when the refs make bad calls against large market teams, their employer the NHL comes down hard on them for screwing up…” Look at that obvious interference call agains Lunqviist or Bernier” shit hits the fan, refs are reprimanded
    When there are bad calls agains small market teams… oh well the game is too fast
    This is a very easy way for Bettmen and the NHL to control games… all in the interest of increasing revenues.
    The only ones who get hurt are the poor saps who pay games for small market teams. However they will all be oblivous to it b/c the game is too fast, and mistakes will happen.
    Only they always seem to happen more ofthen to teams like the Sens

  • Sandy

    I think this team would have been better IF Alfie would have stayed..
    I however hope Detroit doesn’t make the playoffs — so his decision to leave for a better team doesn’t work out..
    I still admire him and want him back at some point with the Sens.. but that won’t happen as long as Melnyk owns the team.
    6 sleeps until my Tampa & Sunrise trip… Can hardly wait to get away from this brutal winter… I have had enough.

    • H POTTER

      Funny you mention this, I’m going to the FLA game in sunrise. I was really expecting this trip but the latest developments have me a bit doubtful on whether they’ll show up or not for the game..

      • Sandy

        Not sure where we are sitting.. but we should have a large Cdn flag with us. I think we are sitting in one of the ends…

        • H POTTER

          I’ll have a EK black jersey on. On the side where the sens shoot twice

          • Floridasensfan

            I will be at the Panther Sens game if either of you want to meet for a quick chat

    • LeafsSux

      Ill be in Tampa/St Pete area on the 27th visiting my daughter and taking in the Indy Car race how long will you be there?

  • FAB

    It’s honestly kind of scary. I’ve always praised Eugene for saving the
    team and keeping them in Ottawa, and prior to the downward spiral that
    started with the Heatley fiasco I felt like he was an eccentric, but
    harmless, individual. Most of all, it seemed that his commitment to
    making the team into a winner was unquestionable.

    Nowadays, it seems like he not only won’t spend the money necessary to
    win (money which, by the way I believe he actually does have, you don’t
    become a billionaire and lose it this easily, I still think this is him
    pouting over the casino deal with the city), but he now thinks he knows
    better than the management AND coaching staff?

    If there’s some truth to this, then buckle up Sens fans. I grew up as a
    fan of the Cincinnati Reds, and I still remember what kind of a
    sideshow Marge Schott managed to reduce that franchise to. It was
    embarrassing to be a fan of the team, and I suspect that this is what
    Senators fans are starting to feel. You were already marginalized by
    the rest of the NHL fanbase, and unless this sideshow with the owner
    comes to an end soon, no one will want to work for the team, no one will
    want to play for the team, and no one will want to support the team.

    The past 12-18 months have been an embarrassment. It’s a sad, sad
    outcome for a likeable group of players and management staff, and a
    fanbase that deserves better.

    • Sandy

      Melnyk may have been a billionaire… but his divorce cost him big time. The fine with the OSC. He got out of Biovail and now has a few failing businesses.. (if you read Travis Yost over the summer).
      You don’t own NHL franchises to make money.. unless you are an original 6 team or an elite team..
      I don’t believe the Sens lose about 10M a season.. and I don’t think he will still be losing money when he’ll be getting up to 40M in TV revenue next season.

      • JAY79

        Ottawa was an “elite” team (mind you one that couldn’t win it all) during much of Melnyk’s rein over the team. Since about three or four years ago, Ottawa was always near the top of the league with attendance figures near the top of the league as well. I don’t believe for a second that Melnyk is losing any money, he just wants to make it seem that way so he can blackmail the city into letting him open up a casino to create more traffic around his so-called “arena in the middle of nowhere”. An arena and team he got for peanuts by the way (just the appreciation of the team and arena since he’s been owner would at least triple or quadruple his initial investment). I don’t trust he was losing money before and now with the new TV deal, he sure as hell isn’t even close to losing money now (with the team that is, his other business ventures I have no idea). Sorry for the rant but I hate that guy so much :(

    • i am just saying

      good people are already leaving – Alfreddson – Tim Murray – Pierre Doiron (this summer I predict)

  • Sandy

    I saw this comment on Hockeybuzz under Yost’s article:

    Do you think guys like Murray and MacLean all of a sudden became bad at their jobs? Entering last offseason, the needs of the team were clear: a top 4 dman and a top 6 forward. So what do they do? They let Alfie walk and sign Corvo. I do not believe for one second that Murray wanted either of these things – he settled on Corvo because of the “internal budget”.

    If this was the final year of the rebuild, then they needed to add a few pieces – but they didn’t do that because they “couldn’t afford” it.

    Melnyk has been very involved, and I cannot see how he doesn’t deserve the bulk of the blame. He created a circus in the offseason with his casino, worked to create the perception that the team wasn’t supported (while Leeder was alternately talking about record high season ticket sales), talked about “cost per point” as being the most important stat, and on and on. When Alfie left, he made vague remarks about the team not being serious contenders … well, we can pretty much understand what he meant now.

    In terms of fixing the d this summer, you’re right and wrong … I mean, where’s the money going to come from? Even with the new TV deals, Melnyk is still crying poor. There has been no indication he’ll spend.

    Bottom line: you get what you pay for. Melnyk paid for a budget team at the bottom of league spending – so, we got a budget team at the bottom of the league. Murray and MacLean are not idiots – they’re making the best of the situation they find themselves in.

    • Zelle

      I love this comment. I find it difficult to read all the criticism against MacLean when we have NO idea what’s going on behind the scenes. I think we have all worked with micro managing bosses. Imagine what it’s like in an NHL club.

  • KingKarlsson84 – RSU is pathet

    What a difference a year makes, I feel sick haha….This whole team from the Owner to the Players have had some responsibility. If Melnyk can’t afford to improve this team after landing that huge deal with Bell Media the fans are gonna call him out and stop going to the games, I hope it happens because he would basically be using this team to prop up his estate at that point. /rant

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      I know of five guys who have already canceled….Three others at work are considering it too.

      I don’t know that many people so I imagine it is pretty wide spread view

      • A-Train

        I really worry. Fans in Ottawa are by now used to a guaranteed playoff appearance.

        You could even argue that the team’s insistence on “retooling” etc is a reflection of the fact they know fans in Ottawa will abandon them if they’re not in it every single season.

        Depressing.

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Personally I stopped paying for the opposite reason…They didn’t do a proper rebuild(I suspect we will be sort of like the leafs have been for the last few years now)…there are more head scratching decisions than logical ones this season. I have said which specific things I mean a million times so won’t redo it.

          • Jacques

            It wasn’t a rebuild we got rid of junk basically. When we get rid of Spezza for a couple of pieces it’ll be a rebuild. And Neil for a draft pick. Phillips should’ve gone for a pick too.

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          I would continue to support a product that was done properly and with direction, unfortunately SO much demonstrates that this isn’t the case here.

          Trade for Bishop(one of the top prospects without a starting job)….bit of time passes trade him for Conacher…..who you waive a year later. If people can’t see the lack of really anything logical here I can’t help you.

          Taking Lehner out after he won player of the week….who does this?!?! Why not ride a hot goalie.

          Alfiegate…

          Weircioch riding the pine almost all season.

          I would say the Hemsky trade is illogical(and really it kinda still is but hard to complain about what we paid for essentially a long term tryout)

          Trading 3 HUGE pieces for Ryan(Who I love and I bought a jersey the day the trade was announced) who it is looking more and more likely won’t be resigning next year…..ohh and play him less than our fourth line plugs….yes more logic

          I couldn’t not post it again hahaha….there are more, I don’t even really know why I posted this again…I know I am frustrated as hell, and really what other option do I have to demonstrate my complete dissatisfaction with just about everything to do with this team than to stop buying tickets?

        • TookieIs100PercentRight

          I had tickets from the first season to 2011 or so. The rebuild just didn’t go deep enough, it was just a few bandaids and led to us being a bubble team forever. I am not paying thousands of dollars to see an average product, a team that cannot defend or a general manager too in love with his vets to say goodbye.
          TOOKS100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • A-Train

    While this has all the hallmarks of a classic end-of-bad-season story, I wouldn’t put much stock in it as an explanation for anything.

    The role of coaches — even head coaches — is hugely over-emphasized in most sports, especially hockey.

    As for the Meddling Melnyck angle…maybe this is the case, but don’t forget how blown out of proportion this stuff gets in a losing season. Was he any better last year? What about when we were contenders post-lockout?

    It’s not that there’s nothing there, just realize it’s extra-amplified by a disappointing season.

  • Colin

    Bandwagon is pretty empty. I don’t like what is happening, but this is my team and I will continue to support them. Look at what the Leaf fans had to put up with for 7 losing seasons. Sens miss the playoffs and the fans cancel their tickets and the team, coaches, management and owner should be traded, fired and resign.

    Disappointing season? Definitely.
    End of the world? Not at all.
    There’s always next season. I love this game and I don’t think I would ever consider not being a fan. Call me whatever you want, but I will continue to buy tickets.

    • karlssens

      I got a name for you: a true fan.

      • Jacques

        Ok now Bud, how do we really fix things?

        • karlssens

          Sure, let’s boycott the team, have an average attendance of 14,000, and be the laughing stock of the league. No one wins from that.

          • Jacques

            This team has to be given to the young guys and a couple of big trades to bring our young talent to par with the Colorado’s and Chicago’s of the world!

        • Colin

          Trade Spezza!
          Trade Phillips!
          Fire Reeds & Cameron!
          Impeach Melnyk!
          Bring up the AHL team and expect them to get to the NHL playoffs!
          Demand answers to every little move that you don’t agree with!
          Question all of the players’ heart and commitment!

          There. Feel better?

          • Jacques

            A little better. But big changes need to be made or we become the Leafs! And that my friend is where being a fan sucks!

    • Sandy

      Thank you for that..

  • karlssens

    Just one thing: canceling your season tickets isn’t the solution..nor will it have any outcome on what Melnyk decides to do. Buy your tickets, not for Melynk, nut for the players who enjoys playing in a Canadian city where their building will be filled with diehard fans. Do you want to be known as the team whose fanbase leaves them after one non playoff appearance? Didn’t think so.

    • PraiseAlfie11

      Melnyk is pulling this budget team crap because he expects fans to show up regardless of payroll. If you could make say 80 MM in revenue off of a 40MM payroll, you would be an idiot to make 85MM in revenue off a 60MM payroll, no?

      I know the numbers are way off…its the point that counts :)

    • TookieIs100PercentRight

      It isn’t just one missed playoff man, it’s been continued mediocrity forever. We’ve won one (1!) playoff round in close to 10 years. Our GM is old, unimaginative and afraid to break this team’s comfort bubble. Our owner is a crazy cheap person. Our players try their hardest with our coach and his line blender and weirdo press conferences (P.S. Lose the confused Maritimer act Paul, it’s worn thin.)
      The team is a shambles and the national capital deserves much, much better.
      TOOKS100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • BeJamin

        Yeah… we went to the Stanley Cup Final in 2007. That was 7 years ago. In which we won 3 playoff rounds. Might want to have some facts? We’ve won 1 round in 6 years. It’s not great, but we’ve been a lower seeded playoff team 4 times in those 6 years. Which is better playoff making % than lots of teams. They’ve also managed to “creatively” rebuild the team without going to the bottom of the league. We know have a roster we expect to be able to make the playoffs again. That’s pretty good. Building a contender takes time. All Ottawa needed to be a top 4 team in the East this year was money… honestly. And the future for this team is brighter than it’s recent past. That’s all you can ask for in this league really… to keep getting better and eventually get another window to contend.

  • Mitchell

    I agree with melnyk lying. His got money. How could he consider even hoping to open a casino with a hit of 10+ million a year. No one lends a bum money. I really hope I can win enough money to take over this team.

  • Sandy

    Unless you are an elite team, there is no guarantee you consistently make the playoffs.
    Those elite teams like Chicago, Pitts, St Louis sucked for years. They got to be elite because they consistently picked in the top 3 of the draft and let their young prospects properly develop until they were ready to play.. then they fill in around them when the time is right..
    Those elite franchises also have owners who spend…

    The Sens will never be elite as long as Melnyk owns the team.. Sorry that’s the facts.. as he won’t spend.. Live with it. Support the team or not… it’s your decision..

    • Zelle

      It’s tougher than just supporting the team or not though. I mean we barely see Melnyk, but we see the players and the coach all the time, and really we support the Senators, as Senators fans, but we also support and love the individual people that are part of the team. At least that’s the case with me. I mean if the team were to lose a bunch of players I like in the off season that might be another thing… ( i.e. Turris, Mac, Ryan, Methot, Karlsson, Ceci, Neil, Smith, etc… )

  • Mitchell

    Couldn’t agree more. The sad thing is we’ve done a rebuild. But the pieces to make the picture complete are missing, thanks to melnyk. Like Chicago or Pitts years of draft and top free agents. I.e Marian Hossa. We have pieces but no good time to develop with the rush of Murray possibly retiring. I predict next year go all in with our roster and not touching our prospects we hit a fire sale for another rebuild including trades of Phillips and Spezza and sadly Neil too

    • Sandy

      My fear is McLean quits.. Ryan leaves.. no good FA wants to come to Ottawa… then possibly the Sens will get Connor McDavid.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        That would hardly be something to fear….well the last part. But unfortunately in that regards we would have to be at the bottom next season, not sure I see it happening.

        Unless they actually full on go into a rebuild.

        • Sandy

          Teams can go from the top to the bottom and vice versa really quick… See Tampa, Colorado.. Mtl a couple of years ago..

        • Jacques

          I agree! I honestly see something like this happening this summer.

          Neil traded at the draft for a pick.Condra moved for whatever.
          Then the three big moves.
          Spezza traded for something like this- to LA for Voynov and Toffoli plus a second.
          Ryan moved to Philly for Couturier and Coburn
          Cowen moved to Tampa for Brett Connolly
          We sign Hemsky

          MacArthur-TUrris-Hemsky
          Zibby-Couturier-Connolly
          Hoffman-DaCosta-Toffoli
          Greening-Smith-Lazar
          Pageau-Stone

          Methot-Karlsson
          Cob urn-Voynov

          • Jacques

            Maybe we move a few prospects for Buffalo’s first overall pick, who knows they say it’s available.

      • Mitchell

        If next season is anything like next. I don’t think id stay if I were Ryan. Low minutes, misused. Kids a star and should be allowed more time (toi) to prove it

        • Jacques

          Well, Wallace hints that management not happy with Spezza and Ryan toiling on the third line mean both will be traded this summer! My guess Ryan to Philly and Spezza to L.A.

          • Sandy

            Why would either team trade for them. They are UFA’ s after next season, those teams could just wait until next offseason and get them for nothing. And the Sens would get the same return they got for Chara & Alfie…. nothing.

      • Jacques

        OMG that would be a home run!

        • Sandy

          McLean is a good coach. He can’t help it if his assistants aren’t capable of coaching in the NHL… It’s a huge jump from the CHL to the NHL.. one CHL coach is okay.. but two.. no.

        • SenaTHOR

          Except thats what Edmonton thought with all the first overall draft picks and oh well?

    • Jacques

      We retooled, wasn’t a rebuild. Ruutu,Kelly

  • SensChirp

    Really don’t think this Assistant Coach swap has anything to do with a decision coming from above, as has been suggested elsewhere. The timing is a little strange though, for sure.

    • Sandy

      Maybe it’s just one more thing McLean has tried to get this team going. Nothing else seems to be working..

    • Phoenix

      Mclean needed to be given the freedom to hire his guys. Its a great mistake if he leaves for any reason. Let him hire his own guys.

    • Doc

      I don’t know, but it is strange to say the least, especially with Melnyk’s relationship with Cameron.

      The fact that MacLean didn’t want to comment just adds fuel to it. He has to know that the fans and media are going to pick on this. Fans will easily be rattle with the way the season has gone.

      • SensChirp

        I suspect we’ll hear more about it today. There are lots of issues with Melnyk but this assistant coach thing has nothing to do with him. Trust me.

  • Phoenix

    I hope this decision isn’t to part ways with Mclean. He has done the best he can under the gun of an owner who picked the assistant. What this team needs is an owner to step back, give the employees the freedom to do their jobs the tools to do their job. If Murray leaves its because of the owner hand cuffing the GM.

    There is too much smoke, Melynk, thank you for saving the Sens and your passion for the team but you got a great team in place let them do their job. If you can’t then your doing more harm to the franchise and hurting the fans, sell the team.

  • Aaron 2.0

    I just have to say I’m sort of getting a good chuckle about how quickly MacLean is not the problem, and how we have to fire the assistants now. I’m on record as saying there was probably no one problem this year, but just the coming together of many factors. Letting go of an assistant or both might not be a bad idea. It’s basically bringing in some fresh air to try to re-work or re-think some things. But, we can’t just say all the coaching problems were because of the assistants. The head coach still has the most control! Just so it’s clear, i’m not saying fire MacLean. I think he has some reflection to do over the summer to prepare for next year. But, i’m chuckling to how we all went from “what is MacLean doing” to “MacLean is great, and fire the assistants because they are the problem”. That walrus sure must have some charm to deflect all that critism that was coming his way just days ago!

    • Doc

      Not sure where this comes from, but I haven’t heard anyone mention that they should fire the assistant coaches.

      • Aaron 2.0

        I thought the popular opinion around here today was to let MacLean select his own assistants for next year? I could be misunderstanding the purpose of the comments, but I thought I’ve read that more than once today.

        I was just mainly get some amusement of how volatile we can all be, me included. That’s the nature of fanatics!

        • Doc

          Ah, thought you meant in the media.

          To be perfectly honest, I didn’t read all of the comments today. I’d rather stay sane and calm. ;)

          • Aaron 2.0

            Yeah, I was just getting a good laugh at how quickly we fans (we includes me too) go from dissecting one problem to another with the team. We all just want to see them win so badly, that we can’t help but get emotional and look for answers. That’s all. The sort of methodical way we do it around here just really made me laugh all of a sudden. It’s probably best not to read all the comments – I’m in and out myself, otherwise it’s all just too much!

  • Andrews theory

    Spoke to a reputable source this evening that mentioned Melnyk has been hard on the bottle for some time.

    Further to that, there were in person negotiations taking place between Murray and Alfie when Melnyk popped into the room and had “an episode”. Murray tried to dismiss it with Alfie as Euge being stressed about other things but shortly there after Alfie got a nasty gram from Euge and altered the Senators history books.

    As mentioned earlier today, when Chirp asked what needs to change in the organization?

    I maintain – The Owner. The organization is not well and the cause comes from the top.

    • SensChirp

      It’s only a matter of time before all this stuff comes to light. We have talked about the “email” here before. It’s why I have been so set in my support of Alfie. Wasn’t about money. Wasn’t about a Cup. In the end it was a decision about pride and respect. Period.

      • Andrews theory

        Yep I always found it hard to fathom how quickly fans were willing to turn on Ottawa’s favorite citizen.

        People don’t suddenly change their character.

        If Euge is still here in a year we’ll be heading into a dark era where we cannot retain our core pieces.

  • senate19

    I can’t help but wonder how you could remove Melnyk from the team. I’m not sure it’s the right decision, because I don’t know the truth, but in theory, how do you evict an owner, when a team is financially stable., assuming the NHL knows it is.

    I mean, why would Gary Bettman get rid of Eugene?

    Seems to me the only way would be a fan petition of some sorts to get him to resign, but then, if the Senators organization is the only thing making EM money, why would he quit?

    • SensChirp

      You’ll recall an article I wrote this off season called Let’s Talk Budget. I believe they were pretty close to looking for another Owner after the mess that was last season. Things have leveled off this year though. First the Canadian Tire deal and then TV deals. He’s on far more stable ground this year.

      • senate19

        Fair enough – but still, if Wallace is right, then it’s clear all the problems with this team start and end with EM. So how do you break free from his ownership?

        • SensChirp

          Absolutely problems start with EM. I just don’t think there is a mechanism to oust an Owner that wants to be here, unfortunately.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            So basically we should expect a long tumultuous ride….

          • SensChirp

            Well I mean, things should get better now that he has more money to work with.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            What drives me absolutely nuts is the fact that realistically the only way I have to show my displeasure is to not buy tickets and not go to games….but I know full well that the only person suffering at all because of this is myself. Does Euge care or even feel any financial burden due to me not going….absolutely not. A far more widespread boycott would have to occur, and even then i suspect that it wouldn’t drastically change his tune.

          • senate19

            You know, you say that, and trust me, I’d like to believe it, but it’s not going to happen. Even up to this trade deadline at the Heritage Classic, Eugene was saying “We’re definitely not sellers”. What did they do? They sent a 3rd and a 5th for Hemsky and got rid of Conacher to save a few pennies. It’s all lip service, and I have ZERO reason to believe it’s going to change. Alfie saw it up close and personal, and the rest of the team is feeling it.

            Like you said, there’s no way to oust an owner, unless fans can run him out of town. You have to believe there’s another owner willing to take his place.

          • senate19

            I think someone educated should draft a well documented petition for Senators fans to sign. This petition should express gratitude for EM’s many contributions to the team, community and area; and his aspirations for a bright future. It should be respectful and insightful, yet honest and to the point.

            I don’t like the idea of hurting people or damaging reputations, but I’m a fan and my team comes first. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you, and years ago, EM was that hand. Now the team is feeding him and he’s the one holding the team hostage.

            A petition would damage his pride the most, which is probably the one thing he cares about as much as his finances.

          • SensChirp

            It’s pretty clear cash flow remains an issue right now but that situation has to improve once the new deals kick in

          • Dirk-Diggler

            Ok, but what if the Sens don’t spend next season? Also, who are they going to spend it on for free agents (or bringing in trades) that will help put an entertaining product on the ice?

          • BeJamin

            That really depends on how much interest the Sens are paying on of the teams debt load. At some point they have to address that or it well weigh the franchise down.

          • John Q. Spartan

            Who exactly is he spending this money on? All because you have new money to spend, doesn’t mean you will have a better hockey team, especially on a team with so many young players, and veterans under contract.

          • Mat

            I have to disagree Chirp. I get that people are unsatisfied with Eugene, and being a budget team, but that has nothing to do with the fact that our team can’t score or play defense. That’s a player problem first, then coaching, than management.
            This team was able to play sound defense with AHL fillers last year. So what changed between then and now? Are they not understanding their role&responsibilities? Is there chemistry issues? Are they poorly conditioned? Is the system wrong? Those are player/coach related questions.
            Is there a lack of talent? Can it be addressed within the budget? Are players no longer responding to the coaches or are they ineffective? Those are management concerns.
            All this to say, I think the talent is there, the conditioning is there, but players are not responding to the coaching. I’m not ready to give up on PMac, but my 2 year old theory (and you can check my past comments) still holds: Fire Cameron and Reeds.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    I am going to the game tonight with aHabs fan friend. I am not sure whether to paper bag it…

  • BeJamin

    I think it’s very “interesting” that Travis Yost’s “Interference” post referencing Melnyk potentially being responsible for the coaching switcheroo & even some other things like player TOI says a lot. Gotta make you wonder who threatened him enough to make him take it down.

    • SensChirp

      Pretty sure he’s wrong on the Assistant Coach switch. There are issues internally but the switch had nothing to do with those issues.

    • John Q. Spartan

      I think Melnyk is responsible for that missing airplane in Asia, and the stuff going in The Ukraine also…

  • s3nsfan

    Does anyone have a link for the @tsn_wally article. Have been unable to read it and people keep referencing it.

    thanks in advance