Another Disappointing Saturday in Toronto- Highlights

SensChirp February 2, 2014 121
Another Disappointing Saturday in Toronto- Highlights

-Pretty simple formula for a loss in Toronto- The Leafs best players massively outplayed Ottawa’s best.  The Sens could not contain Phil Kessel. Meanwhile Turris, Ryan, MacArthur, Spezza and Karlsson all seemed to sort of mail it in last night.  Disappointing when you consider the magnitude of the game.

-I didn’t think Craig Anderson was really at fault on any of the goals last night but my biggest issue was with his comments following the game.  The old expression “Win as a team, lose as a team” seemed to be lost on Craig as he took a pretty healthy run at his team’s shoddy defensive zone coverage.  And while Anderson was right, there’s just no need to say that sort of thing in the media. Especially when Anderson has struggled most of the season.

-Disappointing to see a career night from Chris Neil go to waste.  His line with Colin Greening and Zack Smith was a lone bright spot for the Senators with Chris Neil leading the offence with two goals and an assist.

-The officiating-  I’m really not even sure where to start on this one but I’ll just keep it simple.  If either one of the officials on the ice makes that call on Kadri (clearly a hit from behind, nothing to even debate here), this is a different hockey game.  Not only should it have wiped out the game tying goal, but the Senators probably should have been awarded a five minute penalty.  Ottawa made a ton of mistakes after the tying goal but if either of the veteran officials on the ice do their f’ing job, last night’s outcome would be different.

-Denver 24 Seattle 20

  • Conor_smythe

    “And while Anderson was right, there’s just no need to say that sort of thing in the media. Especially when Anderson has struggled most of the season”

    Gotta disagree Chirp, Anderson has simply been playing like a human.. The Defense has struggled all season and left Andy and Lehner hanging out to dry 99% of the time. There’s been “Saveable” goals all season for sure, But when the other team buzzes in your zone for 3 consecutive minutes and you can’t clear the puck, it doesn’t matter if the shot is “saveable”, it just shouldn’t happen in the first place

    Its high-time somebody comes out and says “this defence fucking sucks, what am I supposed to do?” I would prefer if Maclean would acknowledge it.. Hopefully Andy got the ball rolling

    • SensChirp

      All good points. I think my issue is with the timing. Defence has been better lately. Trending in the right direction anyway. Wasn’t fair to throw them under the bus. Nobody has done that to Anderson, this season.

      • Conor_smythe

        haha, except the fans!

        • Roar…

          Agreed. I mean realistically it was a 3-3 hockey game where Ottawa had played reasonably well last night until the last few minutes. The 4-3 goal was a really unfortunate mental error by Gryba & Andy failed to bail him out on what was a save he could have made. Andy had quite a few opportunities where he could have bailed the team out last night – not his best game.

          The FenClose Corsi was 52.4% in favour of Ottawa so they played just fine overall. Realistically the top two lines just didn’t manage to get in and finish on their chances/didn’t generate much at all after the Kadri hit. I think the team was just stunned/frustrated on the whole and lost their focus. I don’t really blame them either. The officials really fucked up.

          Team just has to keep playing as they are. They’re a 7-8 seed if they do. Problem is all they’ll really gain from that is first round experience. Until this team adds the right pieces and the younger guys grow into their games a little bit we are what we are.

      • WaitingSince92

        I’ve got no problem with it as long as he calls HIMSELF out when he plays poorly, which he has done in the past. I don’t really think he was that harsh either. It was just a missed assignment – that’s all he said.

      • Brad Bernatchez

        That’s what the ahl is for to get our defense to develope not the nhl level. IMO Cowen pw gryba are all in the nhl way to early!

    • Aaron 2.0

      The defense has struggled all season. But, let’s face it, our D is the weakest point on this team by far. Behind Karlsson and Methot we have a collection of 5 / 6 / 7 guys. Nothing Anderson says to the media is going to change that, and there is going to be nights where they struggle. Last night was particularly infuriating because the Sens were incapable of handling the momentum swings, and let the Leafs back in it. Andeson should shut his yap IMO. Let the coaches do their thing. There’s plenty for him to focus on with his own game.

  • Michenator

    You put it perfectly! Frustrating loss but we can’t let a missed call deflate us so much. We need to be more tenacious. Onto the next one and let’s keep the winning spirit alive and rock Pittyburg.

    GO SENS GO!

  • PraiseAlfie11

    So is the sun making things up, or did Ceci take blame for that hit?

    Healy is such a toronto homer. He was going on and on how great kadri’s hit was before the intermission. After the intermission, he called the hit questionable and never brought it up again.

    • RUSH RLZ

      Here are his comments via TSN:

      Added Ceci: “I just kind of showed my back a bit hoping he’d slow up and ended up face first in the boards and then they scored right on the play. It was a tough play, tough play for me. It was unfortunate I didn’t get a call on the play and they ended up tying the game with that.”

      As for the non-call, Ceci said he was surprised.

      “I guess I could’ve stayed down a little longer,” he said. “But I just tried to get up as fast as I could to continue to play, and they end up scoring right after that. I just had to skate off and just kind of shocked that nothing came of it.”

      • Robert Lepage

        It’s one of those instances where the officiating is based on result, not action. Very disappointing.

      • WaitingSince92

        I think if he got up more slowly, and with a bit of a faked wobble, we would have got the call (sad but true). If Ceci were hurt on the play, you could bet Shanny would be dishing out games.

  • RUSH RLZ

    God dammit I hate waking up still mad! Bummer game yesterday. *growl hiss*

    • SensChirp

      Completely ruined my Groundhog Day!

      • SENSsmile

        It certainly feels like freaking Groundhog Day. Another game against Toronto, another screw-up.

  • Tcharger

    That is Andersons last straw in my eyes…..considering how many games at the start of the year he came out and shat the bed, and noone outright laid blame on him in the media, or anything…..to hell with this I first guy.

    I am sure a lot of people won’t agree….but oh well

    • Doc

      Give your head a shake. Good lord.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        Absolutely not… Had I or anyone said something along those lines when I played football you can bet your last dollar we wouldn’t have seen the field for at least 2-3 games

    • Sensnation

      Agreed Tcharger, time to move on to Lehner. Anderson isn’t playing terrible anymore, but he still isn’t and will never be the goalie we saw briefly last year. Can’t throw your team under the bus like that!

  • FistsofNeil25

    Gotta start with the positives here. I’ve been one of the toughest critics of the Greening-Smith-Neil line…I have just never liked those three together. Last night they were amazing. That was one of the best games I’ve ever seen Neil play and Greening stepped up big time.

    It’s too bad the rest of the team couldn’t follow the lead of 14-15-25. As Chirp mentioned, Toronto’s stars were far superior to ours last night and it wasn’t even close. Bobby maybe played his worst game as a Senator and Spezza decided to take the night off along with his wingers #9 and #93 who were by far the worst line on the ice all night. Karlsson didn’t take charge of the game like he usually does. It was just a really disappointing effort from all our go to guys.

    • karlsson65

      Weir looked bad. If Phillips isn’t ready to go, I actually wouldn’t mind seeing Corvo next game. He has to play sometime, and after his last long layoff he played well for a while.

  • WaitingSince92

    I hate sounding like sore losers by blaming it on the refs. I always defend them because they have a way harder job than people give them credit for – bad calls are part of hockey.

    All that being said, Kadri’s hit on Ceci, however, was absolutely indefensible – that’s why minor hockey jerseys have stop signs on them (it was the epitome of a dirty hit from behind). I have NO PROBLEM with saying the refs really fucked us on that one. Certainly changed the game.

    As if I wasn’t angry enough at the non-call, Healey made it worse. PLEASE FIRE HIM ALREADY. Saying shit like “That’s a close call” or “Did he turn?” (NO, he didn’t – not even a little) or “It’s a tough call to make because it not only stops the play, but assigns a penalty and takes away a goal”

    ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?! None of that is true/relevant.

    I haven’t been that angry watching hockey in years.

    • SENSsmile

      The thing that pisses me off the most is that Sens FANS seem to be more emotional and furious about this than the PLAYERS themselves.

  • Floridasensfan

    I don;’t like the carbon copy media response, say it as you see it, so I am ok with Anderson’s comments.
    Really disappointing game and not just the points,
    Hockey Night in Canada sucks, should be called Leaf TV in Canada.
    The refs should skate on with the Leaf players and be introduced with them.

  • Aaron 2.0

    Anderson’s remarks are particularly off-putting for me given that the GWG involved his poor decision to give the puck to a flat-footed defensemen a few feet away, and then wasn’t set when the whole thing went sour…

  • sben

    I find that the sens had 6 minutes of penalties in about 8 minutes. Spezza, michalek, karlsson and pretty much all our top players never got the flow to the game. Jim hughson and craig simpson were talking about it. The refs decided the game really. It wasn’t the players fault. THat hit also took away practically all the momentum the sens had prior to that. stupid game. May cost the sens the playoffs.

  • FistsofNeil25

    The reffing was an absolute joke but I’ve learned not to expect any better when we’re playing Toronto. The Sens had all the momentum in the first period until the refs called back to back to back weak penalties against us.

    Then there was that Kadri hit on Ceci. What a joke. I can’t even talk about it haha I don’t care if one referee missed the call because he didn’t see the hit, but there are two refs on the ice. I’m still so mad. That should have resulted in an Ottawa powerplay and not a Lupul goal. After that hit I didn’t care much about the game anymore… I just wanted to see someone knock Kadri’s head off.

    • Sensnation

      With you on that, can’t believe Kadri finished the game unscathed, was sure someone would lay him out at all costs. Not that I condone violence …

  • WaitingSince92

    Gotta like what Ceci said about the hit though. Very sly, subtle jab at the reffing without sounding like a whiner. He said something like “I guess I could have stayed down a little longer…”

  • FistsofNeil25

    I don’t know who Andy thinks he is calling out his team like that. The Sens have had average at best goaltending all season long and I haven’t heard a single player say “well maybe if our goalie made a couple more saves then we could have won the game”.

    Andy has been pretty bad for the majority of the season. His .906 save percentage is pretty damn embarrassing. He shouldn’t be calling out his team when he has single-handedly lost games for his team this year. I haven’t once heard him take responsibility for a loss or suggest that he should play better. I’m really disappointed in him as a leader on the team.

    That one comment he made about the Kadri hit not being a non-issue if the Sens hadn’t missed their assignment in front of the net (Lupul) was so stupid. They missed their assignment because they all reacted to that piece of shit Kadri ramming our 20 year old rookie defenseman head first into the boards. They were sticking up for their teammate. Maybe you should try doing the same Andy!!

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Could not have said it better myself!

      Been trying to write something like this out… But couldn’t come up with anything pg enough.

      • FistsofNeil25

        He should just shut his f’ing mouth sometimes. It’s not the first time he has called out his team for shotty defense this year. I mean yeah, they have played pretty poorly in their own end for most of the season, but he himself has been pretty bad.

        It’s Maclean’s job to comment on what his team did wrong, not the Andy’s, at least not when he has been as inconsistent as he has.

        Next time he has a bad game I hope someone calls him out for letting in a softie.

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Won’t likely even have to wait for a bad game… They have been happening with some regularity even during decent games.

        • sprucesens

          i hope it doesn’t happen. that’s how teams fall apart

    • Sensnation

      You know Lehner would’ve been the first one in after that hit! Just saying.

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    Will the league still review kadris hit?
    I didnt care about the game after that anyways I thought someone would go after kadri but no one did. This is not a team

    • mkjr

      I agree, thought someone would have laid Kadri out.

    • SENSsmile

      Extremely frustrating and embarrassing. Against the freaking Leafs, no less!

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    I can’t even believe that some people are OK with what Anderson said… The guy Is supposed to be one of our veteran fucking leaders… Showing the young guys how to be a professional… Helping ensure Lehner doesn’t have a hothead (which although he had yet again been the better goalie regularly he has calmly been a team player on the bench waiting his turn)

    Unreal that this is the type of leadership people are OK with and apparently want.

    This honestly (and it isn’t only hear that I am making this comment about) is the biggest head shaker I have ever seen from Sens fans

  • Jacques

    When you’re a QB you Don’t throw your lineman under the bus. A goalie shouldn’t throw their D_men under the bus either.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Unless your name is Jay Cutler.

      • Jacques

        Cutler is just plain terrible, as far as the Sens give the team to Lehner, if he fails, he’ll learn on the job.

    • SENSsmile

      True. This is not the first time Anderson has done this.

  • Terry

    Soooo angry. When Leafs fans at the same pub admit it was a dirty hit and the goal should NOT have counted you think an “expert” could as well. I honestly can’t think of a player on Toronto that I like. I despise the team. The only positive I will have in Toronto will be next Christmas season watching the World Juniors in person.

    The team fell apart after the Kadri hit. Just couldn’t seem to get anything going. Good to see Smith and Cowen got after the POS after the hit. I wish Neil could’ve lined him up.

    Oh well, now that I have vented…….I didn’t see Anderson’s comments so I can’t comment on them.

    • SENSsmile

      The entire Sens team was completely deflated after that bullshit goal.

  • Tcharger

    http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=467933

    For anyone that hasn’t seen it….He says it happened behind the net, so not easy for anyone to see what happened….ummm no you couldn’t see it everyone else did clearly.

  • Sensnation

    Really feel like the “non call” was the turning point of the game. Tough loss to take, but I sure hope the league at least reviews that hit if not suspends Kadri.

  • jasonontheoldsenschirp

    Completely agree with the missed call, Chirp. And I’m not one to criticize officiating for losses, but I really do think the game would have gone much differently if the correct call was made.

    Up 2-1 at the time, who knows what could have happened if the Sens were awarded with a deserved 5 minute penalty.

    Also, and I hate doing this, but I thought the CBC was once again incredibly biased in their commentary. Next time, I’m watching the game in Punjabi.

    • Sensturion

      In CBC’s defense, the entire panel thought it should’ve been a penalty.

      • jasonontheoldsenschirp

        The panel, yes. But the in game broadcasters were much more in denial.

        Also, other commentary throughout the game, such as Glenn Healy criticizing Erik Karlsson for not being able to kill penalties [which we all know he does and is pretty decent at] was pretty ridiculous and generated much frustration to hear from the other sens fans I watched the game with last night.

        • hey_zeus

          We won’t have to listen to him much longer. Thank god for that TSN contract!

    • sprucesens

      not gonna help, “they” love kadri.

  • aegiszx

    Have you guys not watched any of Andy’s post-game pressers this year…? There have been a couple of times where he has blamed himself for letting in a softie. This is no different really. Oh well, cue the pitch forks and signs, time to run our goalie, and captain. The fact of the matter is, our best players were more interested in visiting the big city than actually playing in the big city.

    They better turn it around quick because the Pens will eat them for dinner if they arent prepared.

    • jasonontheoldsenschirp

      Ya I have no problem with what Andy said.

  • Sensturion

    I have no problem with what Anderson said. Yes, he’s let in many softies this year but he was right about last night. No one was convering their man last night and it resulted in a blowout. Kessel shouldn’t have been able to walk in like that and someone should have been on Lupul. Three players went after Kadri when he hit Ceci instead of continuing to play.

    • Sensnation

      If you re-watch the replay, you’ll see Anderson was not tracking the puck at all last night. On over 3 goals, he had no clue where the guy who scored was coming in from. Yes there were defensive lapses, but when a goalie is on he knows where the other players are. He had tunnel vision on the passers last night and thus often was not properly set for the actual shot.

      • Tcharger

        .857 sv%….that is really all that needs to be said

      • SENSsmile

        Lehner, after Sens’ loss vs. Carolina: “I blew it. I’m responsible for this loss.”

        When Carey Price stole the game against the Sens a few weeks ago, Anderson refused to give credit to his teammates for playing such an awesome game. To the contrary, he diminished their work by stating that Price just did his job that night. Never mind that Anderson let in a softie on Subban in the OT. That couldn’t have possibly been his fault, right? Anderson is flawless, according to himself. What a team player!

  • Tcharger

    .857 SV%

    I would hardly be pointing blame at anyone

  • Roar…

    The Defense:
    I think we need to put something into perspective here. Ottawa has a very inexperienced defense group. They will get better and grow, but they need time. The team lacks a couple more top 4 guys who can play 200 feet and produce 25+ points. The below guys will all be solid top 4 players eventually – save Gryba who I think is better suited to being a 6th/7th guy & penalty kill specialist.

    Wiercioch 85 games
    Cowen 142 games
    Gryba 63 games
    Ceci 23 games.

    The real issue is that Phillips has struggled mightily and after a brief spell of good play Corvo has regressed back to the reason he was available so cheaply. We simply don’t have veterans we can put in the game.

    The Forwards:
    Again a bit of perspective is necessary. The Sens have a ton of young guys developing but few of them have truly matured to this point in time. Spezza, like it or not, is declining and may or may not rebound. Below is sort of the future of the team at the forward position, with much still to play out.

    MacArthur-Turris-Ryan
    Unknown-Zibanejad-Stone
    Condra-Spezza-Unknown
    Greening-Smith-Neil

    Question Marks:
    Puempel, Da Costa, Grant, Schneider, Prince, Hoffman, Pageau, Petersson, Lazar.

    I think we have some guys down in the AHL who could… and maybe even should be playing right now. We will know more about where all those question marks fit two years from now.

    ————————-

    So where do we go from here? I think it’s quite clear at this point the Senators aren’t a Stanley Cup contender this year. It would be nice to get into the playoffs just to get the young guys experience (and who knows, anything can happen?) vs. a strong Bruins or Penguins team. There are lessons that can be learned from playing teams that good when it counts.

    Expectations were built much too high for this team at the beginning of the season. Most of which was pegged upon Wiercioch & Cowen stepping in and being excellent top four defenders immediately – which just hasn’t happened. Cowen’s game is coming around. Wier is playing well but still lacks the strength on the puck that will come with time and experience. He still has ups and downs which you would expect from a guy with so little experience.

    My hope is that the team will look at players similar to the impact of a MacArthur in free agency. Smart buys that improve the teams overall depth. The 2nd tier guys rather than over-blown exaggerated players like Clarkson. I think we should take a long hard look at Andrew Benoit and see if we can get him out of Colorado. Get him back that is. He’d be a great guy on our 3rd pairing… maybe even more. Probably not too expensive either.

    We need to preach patience and realize this teams story is just beginning. They have a long window to get better. Realistically – if we can’t get Bobby Ryan to sign, we’ll trade him for a huge return. Maybe even more than what we gave up for him. So we’re not going to lose out because of him at any rate. Hoping we keep him of course.

    I think a Spezza deal is likely if he doesn’t rebound strongly next year, and by that I mean possession numbers and ability to compete with the better opponents on the ice moreso than raw points. He’s not going to sign cheap so I see him being a potential deadline deal next year especially if Zibanejad takes the next step at center.

    • sben

      should’ve made this a chirped article

  • Geoff

    I hate waking up still fuming, raging angry but I am. I know Kadri will get nothing and quite frankly I’m very saddened that no one took the instigator and beat the f**k out of Kadri; the game was lost and the Sens were getting called for anything, real or imaginary anyway. It’s just infuriating. Leafs get 2 points, and everything continues as normal and Sens get shafted…again.

    Anderson is frustrated I get it, but if he opens that cans of worms, he better be prepared to face the media and his mates next time he screws them by letting in one or more softies…

    Don’t know about you guys but I love my sens, which is probably why last nights loss REALLY hurts but I have to believe that revenge IS coming and soon. I really don’t know if the playoffs will happen this year but I truly hope I’m wrong.

  • Hannibal

    Goaltending has been mediocre this year to say the least, specifically from a technical perspective. It has been quite frustrating this year to witness the number of goals scored with the goalie’s inability to show agility side to side. It is emerging as a chronic issue. The defensive play as well has been suspect, very few teams allow forwards attacking the net to actually get to the net, especially from behind the net or the half wall, making the goalies vulnerable and not giving them a chance at the charging forward, and being out of position and poor rebound follow-up. While not hearing CA41′s comments you get the feeling his days are numbered here.

  • MoeDozer

    Chirp any word on who BM was looking to deal for? Or atleast what type of player I assume a winger for spezz?

    • Mike Bauer

      I’m just going to take a guess and say it was Hemsky. I think Murray wants to do something now to light a fire under his team. Next three games are make or break.

      Hemsky is the only player worth acquiring that won’t cost an arm and a leg… I still think the deal gets done though. Something happened but it doesn’t mean it won’t get done, just means not right away.

      • mkjr

        God I hope we don’t deal for Hemksy, he’s forever getting hurt and is streaky at best.

        • Roar…

          His possession numbers are excellent. He would help Spezza tremendously. He’s the ideal inexpensive acquisition. Just an issue of making the right deal to get him. I think he’s for sure the rental we want. We might even keep him around if he fits.

          • mkjr

            I’m just not a Hemsky fan. Lived in Edmonton for 3 years and made a lot of friends there. They don’t speak very highly of him and I find him soft. But that’s just my opinion. Would love to see a guy like Perron here.

          • Roar…

            I doubt Ottawa would give up Gryba for a rental. Unless they feel Claesson or Borocop is ready to step in and be even better – which arguably they are.

            Perron is 25 and has played very well. I really doubt they’d give him up for anything more than a top dollar trade similar to the Bobby Ryan deal.

            In terms of fan evaluation of Hemsky. They’re probably just frustrated that he gets hurt. His skill level is there, but on a disorganized and bad team it’s hard for that to show. Remember when Ottawa had rough years all of their offensive players had worse numbers. That’s just what happens.

        • MoeDozer

          in his defense, the last 3 years hes been pretty healthy compared to other seasons. i wouldnt have a problem with shaking things up.

          im hoping we are pushing for PA patrenteau. plays a lot like hemsky although would be more expensive. however several teams out west like the oilers and avs are looking for a 3rd line physical player that can skate and finish sometimes. (colin greening)..would be a good swap even money wise

          • mkjr

            I reluctantly agree, I really like Greening. He’s just not a finisher! Big body, likes to hit, has good possession numbers but just can’t bury the puck when he has the chance.

  • Geoff

    and apparently Murray had a deal fall apart. Will he keep trying or just let it go?

  • NickofTime

    Interesting once again to see that the only guys who came to play last night were the Greening, Smith & Neil line including Kassian who dropped McLaren. Unfortunately, the figure skaters who are paid to score on this team looked scared, played scared & showed Canadians on National television what a bunch of pussies they are, AGAIN. Forget the score, there should have been a brawl after that hit, every guy on the ice should have dropped the gloves & gone after someone. But of course our team doesn’t do that, they are way too nice, they avoid any trouble, they don’t want to get a penalty or suspended. What would Toronto have done if it was reversed? Funny how Calgary has played so well after that line brawl with Vancouver, funny how well Colorado played since Roy went nuts & funny how well Philly has played since their brawl. Ottawa did it against Montreal in last yr’s playoffs, why can’t they do it against Toronto? It was another embarrassment, it made them look weak, soft & scared. The refs were paid off on National television before the game but that should not have stopped Ottawa from going after kadri.

    When I see a game like that I want to get rid of 7 or 8 of these figure skaters on this team & get some real hockey players, players with some back bone with some guts, guys who will stick up for each other. Funny how in the very next game on CBC when Cook hit a Calgary defencemen, his partner (who is not much of a fighter) dropped the gloves immediately & started pounding on Cook, he didn’t hesitate, he didn’t look to the bench to make sure it was okay, he just defended his teammate, that’s what is missing with this team, GUTS. After his penalty everyone on the bench was congratulating him including the coaching staff, Nobody went after kadri after the initial incident, Smith tried but the ref stopped him, someone should have got him on the very next shift he was on the ice. Karlsson was brutal again giving the puck away 3 or 4 times on one shift on the PP. This could kill their playoff chances & they deserve what they get after a performance like that. Maybe it is time to get rid of Spezza, Michalek, Conacher, Condra, Phillips & I would switch Karlsson for Weber in a heart beat.

    • aegiszx

      Had it been Alfie or Neil that boarded their rookie Riley or Gardiner, the ACC and the entire Leafs bench would have gone NUTS. I understand Spezza and Karlsson aren’t fighters, but this is your fucking team.

      When my Leafs and Habs friends used to tell me the Sens were soft, I would tell them to shut it. I can’t fucking say that anymore, because there’s NO doubt in my mind, this team THIS YEAR is soft as heck. And that’s why we arent seeing the success level of last year.

    • sben

      The line that was on the ice was not suited to start a line brawl. The only tough guys on the ice were cowen (if you want to call him a tough guy) and smith. There wasn’t going to be a line brawl. Karlsson was playing badly cause he never started the game properly. There were 3 or 4 penalties consecutively where karlsson wasn’t able to play thus he never got flow to the game. Simpson and hughson were talking about it. I’m also very glad you aren’t in charge of the team becuase you’d screw us over.

    • Jacques

      I ‘m all for trading a bunch of guys but trading Karlsson is insane! Weber is the most over talked over rated player for the money he makes. Karlsson would be so much better if he could play with a guy who could skate. Cowen can’t cover for him cuz he has no wheels.

      I would be looking to move Cowen, Spezza,Michalek,Phillips,and Anderson. Regardless if we plan on making the playoffs or not this year.Go get stuff with these pieces and give the the team to the young guys. Finish the rebuild right now, and you know what we’d still make the playoffs.

      • mkjr

        Not sure I’d be willing to give up on Cowen so soon, He’s only played 82 games I think in 3 years. He’ll be a beast in 2-3 years along with Gryba. I’d be more willing to move Wiecioch(sp?).

        • laffin681021

          he’s played approximately 140 games…but regardless keep him for at least another season before considering to trade him IMO.

  • things that make me go hmmmm

    4 points for Jim O’Brien in his AHL game last night

    • Roar…

      What’s really interesting about him is he had like 1 point in his first 10 AHL games. He’s been absolutely tearing it up ever since. And he has NHL experience. To the point where he’d probably make a solid 4th liner. Either for us or someone else. Decent scoring touch too for a 4th line player when he was here. It’s still really a mystery why he fell out of favour with the organization.

      • mkjr

        I always liked O’Brien, I’m with you, not sure what happened .

  • sben

    The score tweet: “There will be no supplemental discipline for Nazem Kadri’s hit on Cody Ceci last night. http://thesco.re/1luTNJK

    • PraiseAlfie11

      Probably becuas Ceci blamed himself for the play.

    • sprucesens

      that gif on that link is very good. shows him coming in 15ft away, with ceci already having his back turned to shield the puck. How on earth that isn’t at least a 5 minute major for boarding/checking from behind/roughing and a suspension is beyond me. Gryba’s clean hit last year got him a game because of an injury caused by the ice. Ceci could have easily been paralyzed if he hit just a bit differently. How is there no discipline for that crap. I have never been this angry at the commitee. I don’t even know what to say, other than glad ceci is ok

      • sben

        grybas hit cost him 2 games

  • Aaron 2.0

    The loss was infuriating for so many reasons last night. But, in the grand scheme, it’s only one loss. We’re not going to go perfect for the rest of the season. And, with such a young team (2nd youngest in the NHL, if I remember right), there are going to be some disappointing nights still. If the goal is to snag a play-off spot to gain that experience, we’re still in the thick of it. It looks like Washington might do us a favour today, and take down Detroit (still a period left to go – knock on wood).

    So, lets forget about last night, because, after all it’s only 1 game. What should be the goal for this week, in terms of points? 4 games, including back to back with PIT & STL as well as BUF and BOS later in the week. Only the game against Buffalo is at home.

    • Aaron 2.0

      I’d be very happy with 4 of 8 points. And, I’d be thrilled if the team managed 5 points.

    • Aaron 2.0

      I spoke to soon about Was doing us favours. Blown a 2-goal lead, All tied up with Det…

  • Sensnation

    The thing that pisses me off about this Kadri thing is that everyone’s arguing whether it was a hit from behind or from the side, but the real penalty is boarding in my opinion.

    41.1 Boarding – A boarding penalty shall be imposed on any player or goalkeeper who checks or pushes a defenseless opponent in such a manner that causes the opponent to hit or impact the boards violently in the boards.

    • sprucesens

      that is this play to a T. Complete bullshit call. I can deal with a missed call, even if it results in a goal. I’ll be mad and stomp around for a while. But this is just insane that that was allowed to happen, with no call, and no discipline. Its not even mentioned on tsn anywhere. I think someone needs to write to the c’mon ref section. I would but would put in to many expletives.

  • PraiseAlfie11

    So anyone got any ideas of how to watch the US super bowl feed (at home)

    • sben

      p2p4u.net

  • Roar…

    FYI There is a second massive mistake that nobody is talking about. Ottawa took an penalty very early in their PP. Wiercioch clearly touched the puck to push it up to the blueline and the play wasn’t blown down. Because the call was delayed Toronto ended up with a longer PP instead of a longer 4-on-4 by about 30-50 seconds. They scored in that extra time of PP. I remember watching and thinking wtf we touched the puck wheres the whistle? So if we’re nit-picking as fans the officials actually cost us 2 goals last night not one.

    • sben

      there are a thousand mistakes that the refs made last night. OVerall stupid game.

  • sben

    something will happen to the sens before the olympics

  • Jacques

    Any clues into the deal that didn’t go down? Anyhow hope Peyton can add another chapter to his great career.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      He sure is writing a chapter so far.

      Hope this is his last game and it is a jets level choking!

      • Jacques

        It’s all good , I’m a colts fan! just like Peyton but he’s in over his head it looks like in this one.

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          I can’t stand Peyton… Luck on the other hand is looking pretty darn good so far for you guys

          • Jacques

            Luck has destroyed all records in first two yearsof any other QB. He has a rocket launcher as an arm. He beatSeattle this year!

  • Mitchell

    If anyone didn’t catch the Bsens game box score last night Shane a Prince 4A’s & Jim O’Brien 2G’s 2A’s

    • Jacques

      Let’s keep playing Kassian and Condra instead of these two or other options(sarcasm of course).

      • Mitchell

        I was just saying it’s an impressive stat. Not a call-up request

        • Jacques

          I know but just saying we have talent in bingo that seems to go unnoticed!

          • Mitchell

            Oh! Yeah I agree. We have plenty if talent down there but it’s hard to force a call up and demand them to be themselves playing with (no disrespect too) smith and Condra

      • Aaron 2.0

        I think when Condra is used appropriately he’s actually a very good bottom-6 player. Not a lot of guys in your bottom 6 that drive possession like he does. And, he’s one of our best penalty killers.

  • Sandy

    So angry last night, took me forever to fall asleep.. Those refs were two of the most experienced in the NHL and they put up a performance like that? No excuse for one of them to not see that hit..
    IF a Sens player hit a player on another team.. let alone the Leafs like that.. it would be a 5 min major and game misconduct plus a suspension.
    So I guess hits from behind are allowed to be done by 1 team while the other 29 teams have to abide by the rules..
    Pitts then St. Louis back to back.. home to Buff.. on the road for an afternoon game in Boston. So could be 3 losses to 1 win. Sens could be out of playoff contention before the Olympics..

    • Jacques

      Experienced in f-ing the Sens(refs)!

  • Mitchell

    I would like to see a line combination change. Just to see if it would spark. It may not be a home run but just a thought.

    Milan Michalek – Kyle Turris – Mika Zibanejad
    Clarke MacArthur – Jason Spezza – Bobby Ryan
    Cory Conacher – Zack Smith – Chris Neil
    Colin Greening – Jean-Gaberial Pageau/Stephanie Da Costa – Erik Condra

    Jared Cowen – Erik Karlsson
    Marc Methot – Cody Ceci
    Patrick Weircoich – Eric Gryba

    Craig Anderson

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Swap Lehner for Anderson and I wouldn’t mind a look.

      • Mitchell

        I think it’s time for a little change in Net. Lehner has waited his time

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Lehner hasn’t waited? He has been arguably our best goalie literally every training camp since he was drafted

          • Mitchell

            I’m not sure how “hasn’t” came up. It’s not the first time spell check has did that for me. I completely on Lehner

      • Aaron 2.0

        With back-to-back games we should be seeing Lehner for 1 of them!

    • Senators Pundit

      We need to take drastic action on 9MM. The guy is wasting space in our top 6. I’m at the point now where I’m assuming he’s going to miss the net whenever he has a clear line on a shot. We just won’t succeed with him and Conacher sitting in our top 6 and posing no threat to the other team’s goalie.

      • WaitingSince92

        Conacher and Michalek are deadweight in our top 6. I don’t mind keeping Conacher around in the hopes he’ll get better, but if we could get anything at all for Milan, it can’t really hurt us to let him go before the deadline. He’s clearly putting in the effort, just doesn’t have it anymore… must be the knees because he could have been a real force (a big, strong power forward who forechecks, backchecks and can drive the net). A real shame.

  • Andrews theory

    Anderson wasn’t terrible but he also wasn’t good enough to win. He owes us a couple so far.

    • Tcharger

      .857 sv%,,,,he was terrible

  • Andrews theory

    http://twitter.com/DavidAlter590/status/429801088272044032/photo/1

    Principle point of contact was Ceci’s side?

    That right hand which Kadri used to drive him is on his #… wtf

  • SuckitPhaneuf

    The thing that should bother eveyone is kadri came out for numerous shifts afterwards and no one did a thing. Way to tell the league we will turn the other chhek even if its scumbags like kadri. Someone should have leveled him for shooting at the empty net

    • Bob

      Probably one of the most frustrating thing I’ve noticed all season, this ISN’T Detroit, why do we let the other team(s) know that we can be pushed around Without any type of retribution?? Hell, after the hit, screw the 2 points, Old time hockey, I bet TO would play us a bit different the next time.. just sayin’