The Caps and Panthers, the two teams battling for the Southeast lead, played last night in Florida with Washington picking up a huge win and a crucial two points. The Caps now sit five points back of the Sens for 7th place but with three games in hand. Important to note that they are only three back of the Panthers for the division lead.
Safe to say Sens will be watching the Capitals and Panthers closely down the stretch.
The other team to keep an eye on is the Toronto Maple Leafs. They have the toughest remaining schedule of any of the teams battling for the final few spots and have been slumping a bit of late. The Leafs had dropped four straight before picking up a huge OT win in Edmonton the other night.
Leafs are in Vancouver tonight before returning home for a four game home stand against the Devils, Sharks, Capital and Panthers.
Reality is the best thing Ottawa can do is take care of what they can control. While the Sens have still played the most games of an Eastern Conference team at 60 (tied with the Jets) they have to find a way to keep picking up points.
After Monday afternoon's tilt on the Island, the Sens return home for games against Washington, Boston and the New York Islanders.
- Still plenty of talk with the NHL trade deadline just nine days away. Not expecting the Sens to be active but they have apparently made calls looking for a top six forward addition. Right now the price is too high but I've been told the Sens have shown mild interest in LA Kings forward Dustin Penner. If yesterday's comment section is any indication, I expect that little tid bit to be met with mixed reviews.
- With defenceman Niklas Grossman and Hal Gill already on the move, and Pavel Kubina soon to follow, the Sens will have a tough decision to make on Filip Kuba. With the team holding down a playoff spot I would think they have to hold on to a guy who has been the team's best all around defenceman but Murray will certainly see what the potential return could be.
- The Sens have a full day off today with the Annual Sens Soiree scheduled for this evening. Paul MacLean's group will return to the practice ice tomorrow at noon at the Bell SensPlex.
Senators are in an enviable situation, and really are controlling their destiny, by working to win each game
and solidifying their playoff hopes !
Let's see where they end up, in the final standings at start of April.
anyone else think the flyers are going to fall off the radar? something about that team just doesn't give me any confidence. I expect a 5-6 game losing streak to drop them down to 7th or 8th
Rumours are they are gearing up for Nash... so if they could get rid of Penner that would be a bonus for them...
Don't know how others feel about this... but for a few months of Penner without subtracting a great deal from the current Sens lineup... if you were Murray would you do that?
so much for experts, they seem like the weather man right now.
pretty sure those same experts predicted us to be the worst team this year
I was thinking about JVR but it will take a lot more than Kuba or Gonchar. A first rounder plus a prospect along with Kuba or Gonchar and that could do it. Hard to believe that the Flyers would give up on him
The next 20 games are huge.. We have no easy games left. We have matchups with the Bruins, Pens, Flyers, Hawks, Habs.. The next few weeks will be intense. With the way the standings are, every team in the top 8 for the East is vulnerable aside from the Rangers. If, a big IF, we heat up now, we could go as high as 4th or even 2nd, assuming the Bruins struggle down the stretch (doubt it lol).
The 3rd-7th spots are anyones guesses right now with how close the points are for NJ/Pens/Flyers. Even the 8th spot is unpredictable.
This is what makes for an exciting close to the season though!
I like this idea, ALOT. If we can get Penner and a solid prospect (especially on D) for practically nothing (say a guy like Daugavins and a 2nd round pick), I say do it. If LA wants Nash, they MUST dump Penner. We could actually use his big body in front of the net on the PP anyway. It's no risk to the Sens at all.
I TOTALLY agree!
I was venting about it yesterday. Its pretty brutal really. The gm's are clearly keeping their mouths shut now a days. Therefore these "experts" need to stop trying to sound like they know something.
That list of 5 teams Nash apparently gave the gm is all B.S. That's a pure GUESS based on who they believe has the assets to get him. Nobody really knows what teams are on that list. It may not even be 5. Nash doesn't have a 'restricted no trade clause' where he's forced to give that type of list. He has a '100% no move clause' which could mean many things. He might have as few as 1 team he wants to go to.
Remember when the quebec reporter broke the news that Nash is actually available it was HUGE news. Not because people didn't think he could be on the move before but because for the first time someone had legit news from a legit sorce. Everything since that has been these "experts" trying to piece the puzzle together and look like they know what's going on behind the scenes in order to generate interest for the deadline
It has gotten to be pretty brutal
Either now or before July 1st
I assume you mean after July 1st - as in when he becomes a UFA.
If Murray wants to trade for Penner he'd have to talk Melnyk into it. We're an a tight budget this season so taking on Penner's remaining paychecks will require Uncle Eugene's blessing.
Of course if LA throws in some picks/prospects and isn't asking for too much in return then it might happen I guess.
Just don't let him be Cheechoo 2.0. I don't particularly want to resign the guy unless maybe for a one-year deal where we can dump him at next year's deadline if we want to.
I was thinking this way too, if we take in penner and tiffoli it gives us a future with the trade, penner short term, tiffoli long term, even if we have to give a young prospect and pick/player. getting toffoli together with prince would be great.
We've got Lehner for backup during the playoffs and can have just about anyone at the end of the bench the rest of the year (Spezza's brother even - LOL).
Second, if things remain they way they are it's possible that Ottawa could face the Bruins in the playoffs & having another big body who can also handle himself physically could be very helpful.
Third, Penner is not that far removed from putting up over 50 pts in his career & is in his prime. With Michalek & Spezza on his line not would it be possible to produce they would make a pretty formidable huge 1st line for opposing defencemen to deal with.
Fourth, if what is being said is true he would come relatively cheap for Lee or some other non-blue-chip-p rospect. Acquiring a potential 50 pt winger who can play on your 1st line for a 7th defenceman or 4th line player is priceless.
Haha fair point!
Okay:
1st - it's still over $1M - you wanna cut Eugene a check?
2nd - no question he adds depth
3rd - the jury is out on whether or not he's going up or down career-wise.
4th - NO WAY do I want to give up Lee for a gamble/short-te rm help. If LA is so desperate to clear salary and wants us to pay the rest of it, they need to throw in a 1st or 2nd and take back spare parts from up front.
Of course, given my feelings on #4 it's unlikely LA would be willing to trade with me - which is fine.
Murray's going to have to be able to go to Eugene and say: "I need about another $1M in salary. I've got LA ready to give up Penner and their first round pick for (insert name of spare part(s) here). So we're essentially looking to spend another million bucks to get an extra pick and a guy who adds some depth up front for the playoffs."
If he can build a case similar to that then Eugene might be willing to pay for it. But it's been made very, very clear a bunch of times that Melnyk is not willing to throw money away without some hope of a return - so he'll need to buy into it.
Now, replace Penner with someone much cheaper (and likely remove the high pick) and Murray can do it without getting Uncle Eugene to bless it in advance.
Woah there tiger! No trading Alfie - ever. And Foligno is young enough to want to keep unless someone really wants him. Nobody's likely to want Gonchar this season and I'd want a great return before I moved Neil. And moving Phillips would be a locker room nightmare after all the fuss over him wanting to stay in Ottawa to play his 1000th game (and beyond).
I'm with you in spirit (keep rebuilding) but the house-cleaning part of the rebuild is over.
Youzz Nutzzz!!!
After moving Fisher, Kelly et al last season, Murray made it very clear that he's keeping Alfie, Phillips and Neil around as pillars to build around - i.e. veterans who "play the game the right way" to be mentors/example s to the younger guys.
Those guys are not going anywhere while the rebuild is still in the early-to-middle stages.
Spezza, Karlsson, Cowen, Michalek, (add Turris now) are the major parts that he's building around that are expected to be around a long time. The rest of the current depth chart (the guys under 30 anyway) are only getting moved out if Murray feels he's getting an upgrade.
Kuba and Gonchar we're just "riding out" for the most part. They'll be gone when their contracts end or before if we can move them in a trade that makes sense (see Kuba debate from yesterday).
Would be nice but I do not see Edmonton giving up on Paajarvi at this point
I'm sure it's just pre-deadline diligence (or Yost BS).
Otherwise, as has been pointed out, Murray can't go into the dressing room and say "Kuba's gone". Assuming he's well liked and respected - if he's not then maybe the boys won't be too concerned with losing him.
While I'm still in the camp of "try to move Kuba" I do agree with the "keep Kuba" camp in that moving him could potentially send a bad message to the team. If we move him and the team misses the playoffs - even if it's not entirely due to moving him - it sort of robs the team of their reward for playing so well and being ahead of schedule on the rebuild.
Scouts from St. Louis, Carolina, Ottawa, Washington, Detroit, NY Rangers, Dallas, Philadelphia, Monteral watching #CBJ - #Blackhawks today.
Kuba's value is at a an all time high. Time to sell high and call up Borocop. Rebuild is still on so let the kids play.
sorry kid but complaining is the last way you'll get a promotion.
and this goes to prove again that "russian factor" can occur with anyone, yes even a swede apparently.
from twitter i found
Joy Lindsay @PSBJoyOnTheSen s
Appears André Petersson's Twitter account has been deleted as a Swedish article with his negative remarks about Binghamton makes the rounds.
that at 35, he will not remain as part of the rebuild, so it's time to trade him.
If we cannot trade him before the Feb 27th deadline, then we try to trade him on or before July 1st.
Am convinced that Borowiecki can replace Kuba, and play just as well once he becomes a regular on defense core !
Relax Karlsson even said he couldn't stand it there ..bingo is ranked 6th worst american city and ontop he isn't complaining that he isn't in NHL it's the fact Bingo sucks and from what other players say it really does .. Non issue
Do he says the city sucks and he is a spoiled brat and has "Russian factor" haha wow head shake
easy call ups, just like the woman... lol
Sens play the Hawks on Mar 2.. could they be scouting for that? or are they after Methot (according to Yost) or Brassard?
Is the Sens contract up with Binghamton at the end of this season? I thought I heard that... if so, would they consider trying to move the AHL team closer to Ottawa?
bingo also isn't that far...maybe 5-6hours
english?
petersson is a 4th rounder, that already puts him at a disadvantage to those that have been drafted more recently at higher picks, all im saying is peterrson will have to earn everything more and he will get less chances than others due to that fact. its just how this works.
im not sure if it seems like im sending too much a negative message about this kid because if thats what you think then thats too bad. I watched him play a bit in the SEL and in the development camp and i am fully aware at his high skill and i really do beleive he still has a chance in the NHL one day.
/rant
Forget about us trading for Penner, we would be doing them a favour by taking Penner whois an UFA at year end.
If we take Penner I want a second round pick to come with him.
We could do this for other teams as well-any teams trying to clear cap space to make a trade could trade us their unwanted players as long as they are an UFA at year end and they include a pick/prospect.
Haven't thought about that angle on penner and the sens but that is a very good point!
I wouldn’t forget about Penner or Steve Ott. What happens if Bryan Burke finds a way to steal Nash from CBJ before the deadline? With a Washington team that won last night and is pushing hard for a playoff spot, Ottawa could be in 9th place by the end of the season.
Murray and ownership can say rebuild as much as they want, but if Burke gets Nash or a different big name player, then they will definitely feel the heat to make a move.
Am I missing something?
Kuba is an UFA after this season.
Trade him now to Philly or New Jersey who are desperate for a veteran d-man. A first round pick in return would give us a second pick in the 24-30th range.
This is year one of our re-build. I don't think Murray feels pressure to keep up, or even make the playoffs (I am sure where we are sitting right now is a surprise for both Murray and Melnyk)Toronto has to make the playoffs or its a failure. We need to concentrate on getting as many quality picks as we can (try to move up in the draft) and make our run in 2-3 years. Toronto has burnt up their grace period to rebuild and they still suck, we just started.
can we remove the "in" in kubina ?
1. Im watching the Leafs game
2. Go Canucks Go
I don't see that anywhere.... I thought their problem was goaltending... payed a fortune for Bryz... for what 7 yrs or more? They screwed up big time on that one...
We will make a run next year, we will be a better team this is the time to make these kind of moves.
Okay -- it's now on TSN.. but they did not state what Philly gave up? He is not the player he was...
Its now or never to trade Kuba, and like you said for far more than we ever thought we would get....
Gonchar I would keep-he is a great mentor for Karlsson and Cowen.
Where the f do these guys get capspace from?
Must Be dollars going the other way
dreger and lebrun on tsn are saying its for 2 picks pending on league approval.
whatever his value is, imo kuba is better but they are very simlar players, both 40point Dmen when very good. 6'4. kubina plays more physical but kuba seems to be playing better right now so if we do trade him, we should be seeing us get a similar package as what philly is giving up
Kuba would have been better for them. I am going to puke if they gave up a 1st.
trade him to New Jersey TODAY!!!!
i think their main reason they took kubina is because he is a right handed shot. making him the only right handed shot Dman in philly now.
what do you want from nj?
kuba for volchankov and a 2nd?
that wouldn't be good for us anyways, its a salary dump for nj and they would be able to afford Parise then.
you are probably right
Ask any person if they would rather have millions of dollars by exchanging their spare parts around their house, or keep their spare parts and make nothing? They will most likely laugh at you for asking the question.
2nd and a 5th will do
considering this time last year a bag of pucks would have been agreeable
then package our two 2nds into a 1st.
Second-round pick and fourth-round pick for Kubina
See, if I was Melnyk I would rather win the cup in 2-3 years than get blown out in the first round this year. But then again, I don't think like Leafs management.
We don't have a 2nd right now. Didn't we give it up to get Turris?
The one issue with this trade right now is that Philly has 51 contracts in their system... they only can have 50 contracts.. so they have to trade someone... That is probably the league approval they need to get..
Can't see the Sens making a move on Brassard or Methot. Advanced scouting on the Hawks perhpas.
did we?
I guess having picks stockpiled isin't the same as having "spare parts laying around your house"
I guess they are valuable when you want to make great trades to make a run at the cup and not the playoffs....
if the league rejects it, offer kuba for hartnell!
then celebrate
Yes, but it doesn’t mean we can’t win the cup in 2-3 years. It just means we are exchanging our spare parts that we don’t see a future with, for a playoff spot and more success this year.
Caps losing that one would be pretty big for this week too
I'll book the hotel for Nash right now, who wants to pay for it? :)
face palm
2-0 Van FTW
Cowen Karlsson
Olsen Ceci
If they don't acquire someone in the next week or so, my guess is they will offer Parise whatever he asks, which would be fine with me tbh.
Don't really see it as a problem.. It's not like what he said isn't true. Bingo is ranked as one of the worst cities to live in in the US with almost no growth. At the end of the day, he's still an individual. He's not at the rink 24/7- very few NHLers are. Your surroundings and happiness being where you are make an incredibly important factor in how successful you are in your work/job environment.
Being a world class athlete in say Toronto or NY brings tons of attention, but if you ask any of the players/former players from there and they'll tell you how great of a city NYC & Toronto are aside from the constant media attention.
Gonchar has moved to Ottawa and is settled, I don't see him signing off on his no trade clause unless he does not like it in Ottawa.
Next year different story.
Kuba if he stays till year end fine, if he gets traded fine, resigning him next year no thanks.
#BSens Booster Club Player of the Month Award for January presented to André Petersson. Crowd is definitely booing him now. #Sens
I hope we move the team out of there!!! that's awful that place is too delevop the kids not make them wanna go home
Anyways, good night so far. Leafs were never going to win this one though
I like the way you think Jakester. Now that's a second line. Send Lee to Edmonton. Helps both organisations.
2-0 Tampa
2-0 Vancouver
Great night for the standings
remember them picking on lehner last year and the whole we trust in brust crap.
Yep....love those pix of Wilson and Burke too.
http://the6thsens.com/2012-articles/february/andrepeterssonbinghamton93931919.html
Hope the team does not remain there, and instead moves to Ottawa or Kanata.
And for anyone who wants to talk about his potential, let's not forget about another player we used to have who had amazing skill but a bad attitude. Anyone want Kovalev back? How about Yashin or Heatley?
The team is also a shit team this year being we cleaned them out bringing up most of the good guys.
Fuck Binhamton if they want to boo our prospects, pull the pin Melnyk.
Grooming our guys for NHL there is not working, it is not like Petersson is the first.
Move it to a location that appreciates our prospects, this booing crap went on with Lehner also.
Yes, and if we move it to Kingston then maybe some of the Leaf fans will join our side.
I'll take all 3 of them back, in their prime. That would be a pretty sweet line imo.
Agreed. If Bingo was my home I would be booing him also.
Yeah, it's really classless when a fan-base boos its own team's players. Just ask Spezza, Kuba, and Gonshar...
That's what you get when you have passionate fans. It's a part of the game. Pretty common knowledge that Spezza is the whipping boy around here. Mad respect though for him not blowing up and asking to leave yet. Can't even imagine how he does it.
He's been through absolute hell with the fans in this city.
That's exactly my point. Booing is going to happen. It sucks, and players probably don't like it, but the classy ones deal with it and try to change the fans' minds by playing their best. They don't whine and complain when they haven't even proven anything yet.
hope he is man enough to publicly apologize and make us forget all this.
tonight bingo played the pirates, that is rundblad's team. bingo won 6-2 and rundblad went -2 with 15Pim. he got a game misconduct for boarding.
(i bet he threw one of the hits we got to see him do on those youtube videos lol )
GO SENS GO!
On the fence with Kuba. Surprised that these type of defencemen are yielding some pretty good return. Would be nice if the Sens could stockpile a couple more draft picks, but we've got prospects in spades. Kuba's been good this season and is essential for the playoff push.
I don't know about anyone else, but anywhere in New York State other than the City, sucks NUTZZZZZZZZ!!!! I lived in Watertown, worst place ever, boring as shiiiit
Go Sens go,
Spendzza
Joy Lindsay @PSBJoyOnTheSen s
Hats off to André Petersson, who chose to speak to the media tonight after all, wanting to apologize to any #BSens fans he offended.Peters son said he did a very long interview, speaking mostly of positive things about his rookie season in North American. #BSens
Petersson was "mostly confused" by how comments were used. "I said some really stupid stuff, but I really regret it," he added. #BSens #Sens
"I'm really, really sorry," Petersson said. "I really like the fans here. I like the team we have. It's fun playing here." #Sens #BSens
Buffalo is pretty brutal too.. I pass by there a lot and man, is that city ever DEAD... Does like no one live there? It's like a ghost town. The only place I've ever seen it busy, is at the airport and bus terminals.
He has a HOT ASS wife...
The organisation does not make significant money unless they get to the second round of the playoffs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAn5XDATxJU
read the top comment too
As far as Binghamton itself read KK's comments. The little barn that could packs it in just as much if not more that a lot of the "more fun cities" despite the way the season is going. And no, I was not one of the boo birds there. I understand especially nowadays things like this go just as much with development as the play on the ice. He is going to be a good player. Thanks guys. :)
More like Carkner 2.0. He's 29 years old and all his stats are worse then Carkners.
Your right he’s no Chara. J Scott is better in front of the net then Carkner is imo. I’m just curious because he had much more ice time last night with our scouts in the building, compared to the other 2 nights and he didn’t have any penalty minutes in one of the those games.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I wouldn't take Penner on this team for FREE.
Saw Codi Ceci yesterday... I'd like the Sens to get him.. question is -- how far will he fall in the draft?
Point is, anyone came make up a trade rumor. It's also well known that "leaks" are announcements to all the other GM's via the media. A "real" trade in the works is kept quiet as there is no need to advertise a want.
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/ott120219.html
We're all aware that nobody really has any idea what's going on. These are multimillion dollar organizations they have no interest in showing us anything they don't want us to see. In the rare times we get information early it's either obvious stuff or its literally hours before it's announced publicly aka already a done deal.
It wasn't exactly shocking to hear Ottawa had interest in Turris. However for any of us who choose to follow along through a site like SensChirp we get to feel like we knew what was going on a bit before everyone else did. That's why people come to these unofficial sources of information, to get that feeling that we're ahead of the curb compared to other fans waiting to see the official trade news on sites like TSN. Although with TSN's "rumour blog" this year they're getting into the same action now that they clearly recognize the market for this sort of material.
Interesting read about silfverberg...
Is it possible for him to come over when his season/playoffs are over similar to cowen going to the bsens last year?
Might be good to have over here in case of injury, as a depth guy
He truly has had a phenomenal year over in the SEL.
It almost seems like every game is a must win, but this is an absolute must. Heading back to SBP playing some good teams and we need to win this one tomorrow!
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