On the heels of a tough afternoon loss in Philly, and playing their third game in four days, you knew the Ottawa Senators were in tough on Sunday afternoon.
While Patrick Wiercioch was able to tie the game late and help the Senators steal a single point, the Islanders came away with the W, scoring a 3-2 shootout win. Ottawa is next in action on Wednesday when they visit the Leafs at the Air Canada Centre in Toronto.
Robin Lehner was strong for the Sens through regulation and in the overtime but didn't have much of a chance against one of the league's best shootout teams in the New York Islanders.
Both Frans Nielsen and John Tavares made it look easy in the shootout and helped the Islanders come away with a rare win on home ice. While the loss is disappointing for Ottawa, it looked like they would come away completely empty handed if not for a late power play goal.
The Islanders drew first blood in the matinee affair as Brad Boyes finished off a 4 on 2 odd man rush that started when Condra, Greening and Zibanejad all got caught deep in the Islanders zone. Ottawa just wasn't sharp in the early going and if not for the play of Robin Lehner, this game could have got out of hand early on.
They looked a little better to start the second period and were rewarded for their efforts as Mika Zibanejad buried a loose puck behind Islander starter Evgeni Nabokov. The goal was Zibanejad's 4th of the season. The Senators had a great chance to take the lead late in the period but a Patrick Wiercioch shot rang off the post.
The Sens defenceman would get his revenge in the third.
Both teams exchanged chances in the final frame but with just under four minutes left to play, Michael Grabner beat Robin Lehner with a wrist shot to give the Isles a 2-1 lead. Give the Senators credit though as they refused to quit. On a late power play, a point shot from Wiercioch pinballed past Nabokov to tie the game at 2-2 with just over a minute to play.
The goal was Patrick Wiercioch's first in the National Hockey League.
Robin Lehner made a handful of phenomenal stops in the overtime period, his best being a right pad save on John Tavares to keep the game tied. In the shootout, where the Islanders are deadly, Nielsen and Tavares scored while Silfverberg and Alfredsson missed for Ottawa. A tough loss but an important point banked in a tough back to back.
The Sens have a couple days off to lick their wounds as their next game comes on Wednesday night against the Toronto Maple Leafs.
There's a chance Milan Michalek could return in time for that game.
- Flyers forward Harry Zolnierczyk was suspended for four games for his hit on Sens defenceman Mike Lundin on Saturday afternoon. Despite the Flyers claiming it was a "clean hit", it's nice to see the league step in on this one. Here is the link to Brendan Shanahan's explanation of the suspension
2010-2011 - Fail to make playoffs and receive a top 10 pick (plus 2 more in the 1st round)
2011-2012 - Make the playoffs when shouldn't have, decent run, whatever.
2013 - Don't know where we sit until April.
I don't know at all. Turris has become very disappointing to watch. At this point, if Perry & Getzlaf want to become extremely inseparable a la Parise/ Suter, I'd be more than happy to see Murray entertain the both of them. Which ultimately means the end of Turris as second centre and due to cap issues, will be gone. Michalek will also be packaged out of town just for salary issues as well. You guys figure out the line combinations from here! Just be prepared for negative comments.
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i would argue that 2010/11 doesn't really count as a year of the rebuild. It wasn't until 15 games left in the season that it became clear we were willing to move entrenched players on and get rid of most of the veteran chaff that we had lying around.
The rebuild started proper when we hired MacLean.
I'm sorry but were you asleep for the last 2 years? Melnyk himself called it a 3 year plan (rebuild). Or am I the one snorting some hard shit?
Murray clearly was cleaning house when he shocked the entire Sens Nation by ridding Fisher. The same happened a couple of days later when Kelly was dealt. Kovalev, Campoli & Ruutu were finally dealt for and thus, a rebuild was started. Murray is absolute best troll and he knows exactly what he's doing. He's done a terrific job since making up the errors or Kovalev & Gonchar signings and has been tearing it at the drafts in the last couple of seasons.
If you look at the play, Silf had Nabakov down where he wanted him, he just didn't get enough of the puck to raise it over the glove. I think with a better shot he would have scored.
That said, Silf was pretty invisible out there. It's rough playing without playmakers like Spezza and Karlsson.
Please no more "Gryba is a beast" he was -2 and grossly out of position on numerous occasions, doesn't move the puck well and at times looks lost. he struggled yesterday and today. Why Pmac is giving him 25 minutes a night is beyond me.
And yes I know he is a rookie and there is a learning curve, I would just rather he was learning at 13-15 minutes instead of 25
Robin & Bish are doing a great job of holding down the fort but Andy's the cornerstone of this team. Maturity has its benefits.
Despite their fumbles, these players are committed and giving more than they probably thought they could. I prefer to watch real live effort game in game out than to waste my time speculating about imaginary wins with Katy Perry and her girlfriends in Sens uniforms. Until they are on the Sens roster, they are adversaries...
An amazing - almost unbelievable run.
And yet so many of the people who post here seem to be miserable.
Go figure.
lehner by his own admission wasnt as sharp in the S/O as he's normally.
thought gryba had a really weak game.
liked the game from Phillips tonight.
sens need to simplify - they are making mental errors too many times.
hopefully michalek gets back soon to give the top 6 some relief.
And if the Devils could do us a favour by beating them, that'd be nice haha.
or they just are not doing it as well anymore. i recall the sens killing a huge amount of rushes just in the neutral zone alone.
you want to have a veteran goalie with a young goalie in tow to learn how to handle things.
anderson is very cheap for what he can do, we can not only have a great goalie night in and night out but also have one of the best tandems in the league.
anybody talking trade anderson is not thinking straight, shawn simpson needs to get his head checked if he's a sens fan and he needs to stop his shit about trading anderson.
Funny how the same whiners come out after a loss. Trade Turris? Really? He's not a number 1 centre. He was never brought in to the locker room to be that player. Crap on him all you want, but it is the entire team that are holding the sticks too tight and making stupid plays, or no plays at all. The team not scoring is a result of a young inexperienced group. The fact that we've managed to still be in playoff contention with an almost all AHL team on the ice each game just goes to show how deep our team is. We managed to walk away with another point. It's still in the right direction.
Maclean has a lot of work to do over the next couple days before the Leafs. Hopefully with each game, the kids get a little more confident...as well as some of the veterans.
GO SENS!!!
i think for his experience he's been doing just fine, learning how things are done in the nhl.
didnt the leafs have a high pick of luke schenn shit the bed for several years? wake up he's doing fine. i trust in big Mac to keep him learning.
Go sens Go!
we are doing amazing and nobody thought the sens could keep this up. stop whining everybody.
lets hear positive things and support the team.
minus us all you want, you cant win every game.
i dont think leafs fans are even that bad and thinking they can. if they do then they need a message board so all the know it alls can converse about how they will save the worlds problems etc.
yea some boneheaded moron just negatived like 10 comments.
isnt shawn simpson a minnesota wild consultant?? atleast thats what his twitter says
Looks like Anderson and Michalek will be back within a week.
What about Karlsson? does he still have a boot on? any chance for playoffs?
Spezza seems like hes skating and could be back in a little over month. any new news on him?
Cowen... is there any chance he plays this year?
Latandresse is still recovering from whiplash, but it is suspected he has another concussion
Anderson and Michalek both will probably play vs Leafs on wednesday
Spezza is skating and doing really good so far with his recovery. It looks like he is a bit ahead of schedule so that is a good sign, about a month away for Spezza now.
Lundin is out indefinitely he has a decent size concussion apparently
Mike Hoffman is due back at the end of the week or the beginning of the following week
Silfverberg-O'Brien-Alfredsson
Michalek-Turris-Zibanejad
Greening-Regin-Condra
Daugavins-Smith-Neil
Methot-Gryba
Benoit-Weirchoich
Gonchar-Phillips
Anderson
Bishop
Ottawa needs Gonchar for the rest of the season.
Please name a team that will give up anything "solid" for No Knees Michalik.
I believe you are wrong. Both our backups have been hyped a lot and both of them are proving why. Veteran presence is less of a deal in the goalie position. Look at Price.
Anyways to say you would rather keep Anderson vs trading him to get an Evander Kane caliber winger while riding our other two goalies arguably just as capable is absurd.
But everybody can have their own opinions.
From a Rebuild perspective I agree with you. (Un?)Fortunatel y they only have 13 more games until the trade deadline. Even if they go 4-9 in those games, they will still be a .500 club in the thick of a playoff race. They won't be able to justify trading Michalek, Gochar (Alfredson?), especially with Spezza coming back around that time.
Yep - third ROAD game in LESS than 4 nights.
I'll gladly take the point.
im pretty sure this fanbase just wants to see a trade to see a trade.
stay the course murray dont read into these posts!
Holy F#@# Gryba had no chance on the second goal all he could do is try and block the shot. There were 4 players along the boards and it kicked out to the guy coming from the penalty box.
On the first goal it was a 4 on 2 and he tried to make a play on the puck carrier. Other than lay down what could he do?
That is what movement in the defensive zone does. We should try this in their zone. Bottom line is Gryba has been in the NHL for 2 wekks and I think that he is doing very well..not mistake free by any means.
Yah, I was there for both games. I thought they played very well, especially after beating Hamilton on Friday night.
And the supposed to be proud Sens supporters wants to tank by trading Alfie, Andy & MM9. Wow!
Go Sens Go
The rebuild didn't start when we moved Fisher and Kelly. That was just prep work, the 15 games we had without them doesn't count, we still had Clouston as coach for God's sake.
It started when we hired MacLean and then the draft (June 2011). Last time I looked in the calendar that's roughly two years ago.
We are in year two of a rebuild sitting 5th in the conference with our 2 best dmen done for the year and 2 of our top line injured.
Is it pretty at the moment God no, but there is plenty to admire about this team.
All in all I don't think we are in a position where we need to be throwing ourselves off buildings, but if you're so inclined - please don't let me stop you.
Now let's hope Turris ends his drought against the Leafs. GO SENS!
Its been a long time since I've posted on here, long enough that I cannot remember my sign in name...Ah well..
Just amazed by the defiance of our team since EK was cooked..All these OT and shootout games have been giving my heart a good work out whilst being a couch potato...
I'm happy with the point and happy that we continue to be one of the least scored on teams in the league. With regards to shootouts, not sure why PM continues to insert Alfie in the lineup on the road...It makes complete sense to include him in front of the home crowd, but with Alfie's mediocre shootout stats i'd rather see some of the kids get a shot on the road.
Also, any one else think that Alfie might start putting more pucks in the net if he cuts of his mane?
I don`t see a PMD as our most pressing need, even with our prospect pool we need to get top 6 talent on the wings and the only way I think Michalek gets moved is if it helps acheieve that.
I think Silfverburg would be much more effective if he either had better quality linemates or was on our second line.
Still talk about D, you gotta be kidding me. This D consistently allows 2 or less goals per game. We are STARVING for offence up front, I would say that is a more pressing need. Considering the future is a core of Karl, methot, cowed, philps (1 more year), with wire,boro,gryba ,ceci,benoit, as depth, D is the least of our worries at present. Someone who can light the lamp a bit sure would be a nice addition.
They have been exploring options to deal Bishop from the beginning of the season. His play lately has likely increased the number of teams interested.
Sens are in no rush though with Anderson still out of the line up. Although Andy is getting close...
Basically he's the complete package, not to mention our best goal scorer. Seems like about 80% of the people on this message board severely undervalue him.
If we don't get a fifty goal scorer back, losing Michalek is at BEST a step sideways. If he weren't on our team, he's exactly the type of player we'd be looking for.
Trading him would be stupid. Sometimes I don't know what's wrong with our fanbase. I thought this was all pretty obvious.
I don't know if you're new around here Palladium Dirt but keep it comin'
Good post.
@ Chirp,
I fully agree with you that Palladium Diert is dead on with his post !!
not to mention his absence shows an obvious and glaring lack of size on the top two lines - lets face it greening can't play on every line on the sens. i believe its one of the reasons Turris is having less space around him because he is between alfie and silf most of the time. only recently PM put Greening with Turris and alfie and you can see some space opening, but its still a hole elsewhere then. I think once he is back it should help the sens front corps line up better.
that is quite a few ticks higher rate than last seasons - that rate would get the sens 53 pts this season. which is obvious as sens are currently 5th while they were 8th last year.
but if they keep this pace up i think the playoffs are coming to ottawa for the 2nd year in a row during a rebuild.
Many here want a top pick, but also many want us to be active in the trade fronts for Perry+Getzlaf
Were not close to the cap floor because f the rebuild, we are close to the cap floor because of budgets.
Getting to the playoffs would help us more than a top pick. The extra revenue from the playoffs in this shortened season will help Melnyk allow Murray to do more in the off season
Even if we crumble in the 1st round, getting 2 or 3 games, will help us so much more than drafting 10-14
12-7-4 in 5th at the half way point you would have told me I was crazy, but here we are. Knowing Anderson and MM are back any day I believe the playoffs are highly probable. Knowing Spezz is ahead of schedule and due back (my guess is he returns a bit early....end of March), I believe we should pursue a scoring winger and see if we can cause some damage in playoffs. Getting to the second round would do plenty for Eug's coffers to potentially pursue a Getzlaf or Perry. JMO
Yea that's a great idea! I can see Murray letting all the young players know that he thinks they don't have what it takes to get past the first round of the playoffs let alone even making the playoffs so I'm going to trade 2 veteran players and make all you inexperienced young players struggle even more than you already are with all the injuries and hopefully destroy any confidence you may have had...
GREAT IDEA!
If Calgary decides to do the right thing and start a rebuild they have a few players that could be of great interest to the Senators... Oh.. and they are in (or at least should be ) the market for a goalie.
Now I know a lot of people have mentioned Iginla in the past but it is very unlikely that he would come to Ottawa. The player that I would go after is Mike Cammallari. Very good shooter can play all foward positions has great experience and still fairly young.
Wow...a post on here with some sense for a change!!!
I'd love to get Iginla on the team. He's getting older but he's a veteran and a great leader for our team full of young players. Also he a very physical player and won't back down from anyone which is also something else we need.
If you look at the Eastern Conference stats for teams last 10 games played only 2 teams have been better than Ottawa. Those 2 teams are Montreal and Boston. Everyone needs to calm down because we lost 3 games (2 in OT).
The past few results, I admit, were frustrating but despite the overwhelming odds against us, look how well this team is doing. How about instead of coming on here claiming the world is going to end if we don't trade everyone currently on the roster of worth people open there eyes and see how great this team is going to be.
mm9-turris-silf
alfie-regin-???
greening-zib-cond
dziurynski-smith-neil
o'brien or daugs as wingers next to regin+alfie??? based on what o'brien has displayed in jump and energy, i dont mind seeing him up there provided he plays just like he has been.
Way too many vital goalies for their respective teams out atm...someone will be willing to overpay for either Anderson(probab ly a dream as it would be sky high value) or Bishop.
With Cam Ward out in Carolina now, the number of goalies out continues to increase, which is good for Murray if he decides to make a trade near the trade deadline. I like that Murray hasn't jumped the gun like many fans in here would have done a long time ago. The more he is patient, and the stronger our goaltenders play, the bigger return we will get.
As someone has said, once EK went down for the year joining, arguably one of the best centres in the league in Spezza, we all assumed the year was over.
Add Andie to that and it was a foregone conclusion.
The fact that we are still in the mix, is a testamount to the great depth Murray and PM have built in this team.
However, where some have shined, ie our young D-men, others forced into larger roles are obviously struggling.
We all had high hopes on Turris, he started of great, but with the larger role, he has not delivered. He is playing very small, and easily knocked off the puck. Which only goes to tell us all how good and valuable Spezza really is. Will this finally shut down his critics, probably not, but just as Karlsson is huge on D, our #1C is one of the best at his trade
Once all our top starters come back, all our current players will be better for it.
So I agree this team is very likely going to make the playoffs. Beyond that, if they do miss the playoffs it won't be by much and the odds of getting a top 5 pick are pretty much impossible. Do the math.
I mean, how can the team get worse in terms of the on ice group? Even if you wanted to tank how could you? Start Lawson the rest of the way?
This team is pretty much exactly where it should be. Goaltending is better than expected and a few down-the-depthc hart guys are showing they might have more to offer. But otherwise there really aren't any surprises.
Whatever...
Umm not sure where you got your stats bud but plenty of teams have been better than us in the last 10 games...sorry to make you look the fool.
Montreal 7-0-3 Won 1
Boston 7-2-1 Lost 1
Pittsburgh 6-4-0 Won 1
Carolina 6-4-0 Won 3
Toronto 6-4-0 Won 1
Philadelphia 6-4-0 Won 2
Washington 6-4-0 Won 1
Ottawa 5-3-2 OTL 1
Although we have the same amount of pts as the 6-4 teams, were behind cuz of the 2 OTL...
Oh really BUD, let's do some simple math here. 5-3-2=12pts. 6-4-0=12pts. As I said, only 2 teams have been better.
i didnt do it but its just pretty hilarious that people are giving you thumbs down for a factually correct fact.
some people here......
because as @Silfver mentioned about iggy, he is very unlikely wanting to come to ottawa. why in the world would a player looking for a cup near the end of his career join a somewhat struggling sens team that is no where near cup-contender shape at the moment?
would we love iggy, yes. he is also a UFA next year and currently has a NMC in his contract.
Now that Cam Ward and Jose Theodore are out for 6-8 weeks maybe those teams can be good trade partners...
I'd like Gudbransson from FLA or McBain from Carolina for Bishop and a prospect.
Jason let me make this a little clearer for you...
If they were to seed the teams we are discussing, the SENS would be last since we only have 5 wins compared to everyone elses 6+...
Comprende?
It's not the facts that make it a thumbs down post. It's likely due to the fact that Tookie calls the OP a fool. He could have just as easily posted the correct details without his usual arrogance.
I never said he would come to Ottawa, I said I would love to see him come here because he is a leader and plays a very physical style of hockey.
That would entail Tookie to have social skills. Which after seeing how he responds to everyone on here like they are idiots, will never happen. So in the end, no matter what the troll says, even positive comments from him are going to either get ignored completely or tagged with a thumbs down.
It's best to just scroll past posts from people like this as they add absolutely nothing to the conversation.
We are only in our second year of a proposed 3 year rebuild, a fact that some clearly choose to ignore.
Home 9-1-2
Away 3-6-2
Can't remember the last time we had such discrepancy in our records.
Damn dude I would love Gudbrandson but i DOUBT it only takes Bishop to get him.
McBain would be more of an equal trade. I would take that!
guys , the best is .... stop replying to him . he MUST be a frustrated leafs fan wandering around destroying other fans hope in our team
let him roth alone
We don't need defencemen!
I'll be pretty upset if we trade one of our most valuable assets for something we don't need.
We have just 1 pressing need on this team..a 1st line winger. There are very few available, as is usually the case.
If Perry isn't made available at the deadline, I'm not sure I'd like Murray to make any trades at all, unless its for someone along the lines of E. Kane but trades like that are doubtful and very rare.
My point is...why waste our best assets for something we don't need, especially during a year were not even serious contenders
Let me make it a bit clearer for you. The Sens are in 5th place. As long as they continue to get as many pts as the teams below them their record doesnt matter at all. Wins-Losses-OT loss are only used for tie breaking teams with the same amount of pts. The only way it becomes a factor is if they are tied for 8th place.
let our youngsters PROGRESS ;)
Lol you are making yourself look like a fool. If your favorite team the Leafs finish with 25 wins and 55pts and the sens finish with 23 wins and 56 pts it doesn't matter that the leafs had more wins. All that matters is who has more pts.
Actually, I think we really need D more than wingers. Spezza and Michalek will be coming back soon. Hopefully Latandress (although he has been a bust)... Gudbrandson is a solid player who would fit in nicely the rest of this season and beyond in the young Sens team. We have Benoit, Gryba, Weir and Phillips who are all not as good as him...
Chirp, do actual fans who have real conversations have to continue dealing with this constant garbage from the same people who bring nothing to the community at all? Is there no way of incorporating a block or ignore function at all in here? Having to constantly scroll through the idiocy is getting tiresome.
.. disgusted...
I've been pushing for an ignore function for a while now.
It's the main reason why I post less this season. Would make the comments section a lot more 'clean'.
Sure Goodbranson would be nice but we don't NEED him. However we absolutely need a winger for Spezza. Michalek is just not enough to be a part of a top line duo that will take us to the cup. We need a 2nd superstar on offense
There used to be great discussions here(I am thinking before the switch over to the new format)...it was an awesome site to come and discuss with fans who loved the team, and shared their views and ideas and for the most part it was respectful and although people didn't always agree or disagree with each other it was never like gr 5 recess.
Watching closely today. Just ignore it and I'll do my best to keep things on track. Thanks!
I agree Zach, and have been pushing for a winger for Spezza for what...3 years now...Michalek isnt the answer, guy is damaged goods.
This off season is going to be one of the best from a Sens fans perspective, the good chance at landing a premiere winger in Perry (thats if we dont get him at the deadline)
Point taken.
The increased popularity has unfortunately meant more bickering in the comment section. Tough to avoid.
Going to do my best to keep things on track here.
Yeah those were the good old days Tcharger, I can remember how people would not bitch and complain but thats the new Gen, they bitch and complain about everything, they want everything for free and dont wanna work to get it.
No doubt...don't really think that there is anything that you can do to "fix" it per say...just kinda comes with the territory of becoming a more popular site for Sens news.
(And I admit that I am sometimes just as much the problem...I know full well I am not angel)Just I swear the site has started to become the first webpage people see when they come to the internet....it seems people think they are only right and anyone with a different(even perceived different at times) opinion is an idiot and should have all posting rites revoked.
Point taken.
The increased popularity has unfortunately meant more bickering in the comment section. to avoid.
Going to do my best to keep things on track here.
Maybe you could make it so people have to register to post?I know it would most likely reduce the amount of people posting because people are lazy but it would probably help with some of the bad posts.
Don't think that's the issue. We don't have a big problem with random people dropping in to quickly troll a bit then leave.
I thought you had to register?!?
I agree Zach, and have been pushing for a winger for Spezza for what...3 years now...Michalek isnt the answer, guy is damaged goods.
This off season is going to be one of the best from a Sens fans perspective, the good chance at landing a premiere winger in Perry (thats if we dont get him at the deadline)
I agree with everything except that Michalek is damaged goods.
I don't think he's too injured to produce. I just don't think he's the type of player that should be a 1st liner. If the coach insists on playing him there, he shouldn't be the go-to guy, however he could be a solid extra guy on that line (the guy who creates space for the true scorers)
You people complaining about it. The comments that have zero to do with hockey. I hate it when people post suggestions to chirp on here. Why don't you email the guy. We don't all need to read what bothers you
Stop crying!
Hope this answres your question...
(d) Bona-Fide Long-TermInjury /Illness Exception to the Upper Limit. In the event that a Player on a Club becomes unfit to play (i.e., is injured, ill or disabled and unable to perform his duties as a hockey Player) such that the Club's physician believes, in his or her opinion, that the Player, owing to either an injury or an illness, will be unfit to play for at least (i) twenty-four (24) calendar days and (ii) ten (10) NHL Regular Season games, and such Club desires to replace such Player, the Club may add an additional Player or Players to its Active Roster, and the replacement Player Salary and Bonuses of such additional Player(s) may increase the Club's Averaged Club Salary to an amount up to and exceeding the Upper Limit, solely as, and to the extent and for the duration, set forth below. cont...
If, however, the League wishes to challenge the determination of a Club physician that a Player is unfit to play for purposes of the Bona-Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception, the League and the NHLPA shall promptly confer and jointly select a neutral physician, who shall review the Club physician's determination regarding the Player's fitness to play.
(i) A Club seeking to exercise the Bona-Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception must simultaneously so notify Central Registry and the NHLPA, in writing, before any Player replacing an unfit-to-play Player shall be permitted to play with the Club;
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(ii) The Player Salary and Bonuses of the Player that has been deemed unfit-to-play shall continue to be counted toward the Club's Averaged Club Salary as well as count against the Players' Share during the League Year in which the Player is deemed unfit-toplay (including during the period such unfit-to-play Player is on a Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception Conditioning Loan to another league);
(iii) The total replacement Player Salary and Bonuses for a Player or Players that have replaced an unfit-to-play Player may not in the aggregate exceed the amount of the Player Salary and Bonuses of the unfit-to-play Player who the Club is replacing;
cont...
(iv) The replacement Player Salary and Bonuses for any Player(s) that replace(s) an unfit-to-play Player may be added to the Club's Averaged Club Salary until such time as the Club's Averaged Club Salary reaches the Upper Limit. A Club may then exceed the Upper Limit due to the addition of replacement Player Salary and Bonuses of Players who have replaced an unfit-to-play Player, provided, however, that when the unfit-to-play Player is once again fit to play (including any period such Player is on a Bona Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception Conditioning Loan to another league), the Club shall be required to once again reduce its Averaged Club Salary to a level at or below the Upper Limit prior to the Player being able to rejoin the Club.
Ironic.
If people think that a largely unproven goalie is going to yield a top 6 forward or top 4 defenceman in a trade, prepare for utter disappointment. I'd suggest that teams that have injuries to their #1 goalies are taking the same approach as the Sens and letting their backups get a look. Sens do not need to trade a goalie - Bishop will most likely if not already, have played the minimum # of games to have RFA status at the end of the year. That would be an important thing for the sens to get done for their own and other teams benefit, since an RFA status improves trade value.
EDIT:
And PIT waive Zach Boychuk
Interesting to see Butler get ANOTHER chance. Preds certainly need help with goal scoring.
Things were very good last Fall as well.
Of course the two resident windbags weren't posting at all.
So do we!
Hopefully he finds his scoring touch soon or he might be looking at another waiver drop!
Just kidding I hope we dont pick him back up...
feel boychuk could be not be a bad addition to the sens. not bad as in it couldnt hurt to try out.....he is a recent first rounder. wonder what happened looked promising in Carolina.
I do see the Sens signing (a) NCAA player(s) though, when that time comes.
I think he might need a night in the press box.
Ottawa needs to get tougher.
Sens don't have the depth to be sitting top line guys to "send a message". Turris needs to work through this by playing.
based on some quick google work - i take my suggestion back.
if he cant stick with malkin-neal, then tough luck.
True Chirp,
Maybe in dropping him to Line 2, and having Zibanejad move to centre Line 1, would take some pressure off Kyle Turris.
Silfverberg - Zibanejad - Alfredsson
How swede would that be !!
i think what he really needs is a bigger power-fwd type winger. we saw an improvement - i felt - when PM at times rolled Greening out with Turris.
i feel once MM9 makes it back it should get better.
if you watch closely, turris has zero space out there due to superior opposition (thanks to being 1C now) and plus size disadvantage. even then i feel he still battles along the boards and is not that shy. this offseason, he has to bulk up.
Zib's a gamer and is capable of it, but i think the decision is to ease him in. he is already more impactful than Silf.
Stone. You have to think he sees a huge opportunity this season. If he can show up and produce ANY kind of offensive spark....
Bishop trade. This is just intriguing to no end. Pretty clear Murray hasn't heard the kind of offers he wants. I wonder if we're looking at more of a draft day scenario? Package our first and Bishop to move up and grab someone the team really likes.
Regarding Turris' play. He has not been very bad. He seems to be trying to do his best right now. If he has space and scoring wingers who could finish the play he will look a lot better. He seems to be trying but with the team overall scoring just 1.5 goals a game you can expect a lot of players who seem to be just trying.
Comments in the forums are always mixed. Everyone has their own opinions on stuff. If everyone has the same opinion as me then what is the point in discussing here. I think it is great people have opposing views as long as they don't get offensive.
Love this site.
Quoting A Train:
If Turris cant handle 1C what makes you think Zibanejad can? Turris is a better player now than Zib and much more mature.
Zib will get eaten alive at 1C. He can hardly score now playing vs weaker lines.
Its way too much to ask of a 19 year old.
Remember he's still a young guy and had his development stunted a bit in Phoenix. If Spezza gets hurt next year or further down the line, Turris will be much more capable of taking the 1C slot for a while.
(And count me in for an ignore button. I can think of 2 or 3 people I'd ignore and the thought that a few people could ignore me would save me reading people whining about how they are afraid to post. LMAO)
BTW, TOR now cheering for EDM to make playoffs this year. If so, 4th rder in 2014 for Mike Brown becomes 3rd rder in 2014.
So I guess this means I don't want the Oilers to make the playoffs? I really have nothing against them but Fail Oilers Fail!!
This I totally agree with. Turris has already shown what he can offer. This is the first time in his career in which he is getting real experience and development time. The Sens, putting him in this position, are giving Turris a level of development he wouldn't have received in most other places. This suffering he is going through right now is only going to make him a better player down the road.
I was thinking more about a move into the top five or six spots for a real impact player. That said maybe the scouts already have someone pegged who's expected to go lower.
while he's surely not worth the money he's being paid, i can assure you we'd be screwed without him in the lineup right now.
they have him playing in a shutdown role and frequently the most minutes on the team...without him we'd be rolling methot, phillips, gryba, wiercioch, benoit and Boro. so 1 decent defensman, 1 guy well past his prime and 4 guys cutting their teeth. only benefit there is vaulting ourselves into the Mackinon race.
I don't get this statement. Gonchar is never going to look like Scott Stevens but I've been impressed with him this year. I think he's stepped up with Karlsson out, Cowen out and the other injuries.
Now, I'd still shop him at the deadline to see what offers come in but that's just what I think the smart move is.
Maybe I'm not watching the same games though.
it's dump and chase hockey and hold your breath in the hopes that the sens can stop the other team from scoring more than one goal.
the possession game they had been playing dissapeared when Karlsson went down.
there isnt a whole lot to talk about when every single game is 2-1 or 3-2.
If Murray gets a decent offer for his services elsewhere at the trade deadline, then great. We have to consider that his contract is coming to an end. If he doesn't intend to stay with the Sens past this season, then you get something in return when you can.
Yeah ditto what Hax said, if you can make it happen SC, if not no worries.
Post of the day.
Chirp - you must get sick of all the bitching on this site. We get this awesome site for free but only due to your hard work and dedication. Please don't mistake the infighting of chirpheads as a negative on your site. Easily the best hockey blog there is (though I really wouldn't care about blogs on other teams so...)
Could use more insider info though ;)
Agreed!
Haha it would be tough to live on $4.73 in ad revenue a day.
Have always wanted this to be a fan site. Operated by a fan, for the fans. That approach can't happen without feedback from you guys. So keep it up!
HAHAHAHAHA
I don't even think I could eat a regular meal in the day for that much.
Time to go european style ads!
As soon as I see any post from a chirper I don't like my hands and fingers cant move so I can't continue to scroll down and my eyes lock onto the screen, can't even blink until I have read the entire comment!
Please Chirp stop this madness!!!
Yeah. Whatever happened to that Jose Cuervo guy?
WOW! I knew Cougars were cheap, but not that cheap!
Haha or Chara03 which I believe was the original handle. Crazy how far things have come from the Sportsnet message board days.
How many people on here were around then?
Maybe a "member since" feature for registered posters?
I jumped on board like many people during the Heatley fiasco.
Count me in! Well until Sportsnet banned me for arguing with Stooli
Wow, that brings me back!
Edit: I doubt many posters from that 'era' are still here.
Hey Chirp,
What happened to your buddy "Tom Says " ??
I suspect that what is more detrimental to quality are those people that are allowed to maintain multiple identities and who post and vote using these secondary personas.
Good question haha. You out there, Tom?
His performance could also bolster his trade value.SI.com’s Allan Muir believes Bishop, despite his strong play, remains the odd man out in the Senators crease. Anderson is their undisputed starter and the Senators must give more playing time to promising Robin Lehner, who has one year remaining on his entry-level contract.
Muir doubts Lehner would fetch much on the trade market, whereas Bishop could haul in a decent return in draft picks. He cited as an example the return Anders Lindback fetched for the Nashville Predators (including two second round picks and a third) when they shipped him to the Tampa Bay Lightning. For now, as Muir observed, the Senators aren’t in any hurry to move Bishop. If Anderson shows no lingering effects from his recent ankle injury, they could field offers as the deadline nears."
THN
Yup, that's when it started. Took so much heat for that prediction but in the end I had it out there almost 2 weeks before anyone else.
Wish there was a way to find that thread haha
He is today freezing in Minnesota instead of sun bathing in San Jose !!
so obviously the owner of the site has the only ignore button!... Chirp will never read this comment :)
Haha or will he?
Touche my good man! Keep up the great work... love the site... even the odd bickering is fun too!