Tuesday, 12 February 2013 11:10

Game Day- Anderson Starts vs. Buffalo

With the Ottawa Senators coming off a shutout loss to the Winnipeg Jets, a visit from the Buffalo Sabres may be just what the doctor ordered for a struggling offence.

Last time the two teams met, exactly one week ago, Ottawa was able to put four pucks behind Sabres starter Jhonas Enroth on their way to a 4-3 victory.  Things won’t be quite as easy this time around as the Sabres are expected to go with their starting goalie, Ryan Miller.

Even with Miller in the net, the Sabres have allowed more goals than any team in the National Hockey League.  Through 13 games they’ve allowed the opposition to score 46 times for an average of 3.54 per game.  That number should be encouraging for an Ottawa team that has scored just 7 times in their last 5 games.

Paul MacLean put his team through a fairly tough practice yesterday, emphasizing the importance of getting to the net.  That will be a priority for Ottawa in this one.  MacLean has also done a little more line juggling with Mika Zibanejad finding his way on to what appears to be the number one line.

Andre Benoit will be the healthy scratch.  Here is how the Sens are expected to line up.

Greening-Turris-Silfverberg
Michalek-Zibanejad-Alfredsson
Condra-Smith-Neil
O'Brien-Da Costa-Daugavins

Methot-Karlsson
Lundin-Gonchar
Phillips-Wiercioch

Craig Anderson makes the start in the Ottawa goal.  Puck drop is scheduled for just after 7:30 PM with all the action available on Sportsnet and on the radio at Team 1200.

  • Guillaume Latendresse continues to be sidelined with what the team is calling whiplash.  He has not been on the ice at practice for a little over a week and the team doesn't really have a timetable for his return.  Certainly not the way Latendresse wanted to start his career in a Senators uniform.  Peter Regin is also injured and will be out for at least a week.
  • Last night we heard that a Senators scout was in Columbus to watch the Sharks take on the Blue Jackets.  No word on what brought the scout to town but there are a couple names that jump out on the Jackets roster.  Veteran centre Vinny Prospal is on a one year deal and would fit the bill as a cheap, short-term fix at the centre ice position.  Derrick Brassard’s name has also come up in the rumour mill and we know he’s a player Ottawa has looked at in the past.  Something to keep an eye on.
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-1 #1 Dirk Diggler 2013-02-12 11:39
Brassard would be an interesting choice. Still young and can be a guy that thrives witha second chance like turris did last season.
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+7 #2 Sensnation 2013-02-12 11:47
Quoting riceroni:
Brassard would be an interesting choice. Still young and can be a guy that thrives witha second chance like turris did last season.


If Brassard can be had for a reasonable price I'd be intrigued to see what he could do. He does however make 3.2mil, which is steep for what he's shown in Columbus and he only has 1 more year left on his contract after this year, though he'll be RFA.

Not big on bringing back Prospal, would rather let the kids play out the year if that's the alternative.
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+5 #3 The Apostle 2013-02-12 11:51
I'm not a huge fan of the Brassard idea either - if we weren't keen on paying Foligno 3.5 why would we be Ok with doing virtually the same for Brassard when their numbers are relatively close and Foligno filled more of a need (winger) than Brassard (3C) does.

Of course, in reality Foligno's true value to the Senators was that CBJ was prepared to give up Methot to get him.
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-17 #4 two to Tootoo too 2013-02-12 11:54
So - Derrik Brassard would cost what ?

Zack Smith and Matt Puempel ?
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+1 #5 Alcatraz 2013-02-12 11:57
Quoting two to Tootoo too:
So - Derrik Brassard would cost what ?

Zack Smith and Matt Puempel ?


HA
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+3 #6 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-12 11:59
Quoting riceroni:
Brassard would be an interesting choice. Still young and can be a guy that thrives witha second chance like turris did last season.


I thought Brassard was a great option before Turris arrived, but bringing him in now is just overkill in the C Dept. If you just want offensive help, I'd say go the direction of Prospal on a short term. He could add some scoring help and teach the young kids a thing or two, while playing just about any line you ask him too. I'm all for letting the young kids play, but there is also something to be said about adding a little veteran presence.
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0 #7 Alcatraz 2013-02-12 12:00
Quoting MethotToMyMadness:
Quoting riceroni:
Brassard would be an interesting choice. Still young and can be a guy that thrives witha second chance like turris did last season.


I thought Brassard was a great option before Turris arrived, but bringing him in now is just overkill in the C Dept. If you just want offensive help, I'd say go the direction of Prospal on a short term. He could add some scoring help and teach the young kids a thing or two, while playing just about any line you ask him too. I'm all for letting the young kids play, but there is also something to be said about adding a little veteran presence.


Completely agree. Giving young kids experience while losing is not the same as Young kids playing on winning team

We need help to score and compete mind you I dont think Prospal is what we need
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+8 #8 Alcatraz 2013-02-12 12:03
I have no problem rolling Turris 1C and Zib 2C until Spezza gets back

What we do need is a bonafide winger, especially since Alfie days are numbered

This is where I dont think we can afford to be patient

Use a Greening, Bishop + 1st to try and lure a Bobby Ryan type player if possible. We need a true 1st line winger, something our lineup is missing

Give Turris a real 1st line winger and our scoring will improve, and then when Spezza comes back its all gravy
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+1 #9 CohMa 2013-02-12 12:06
Could they have been looking at San Jose? I'm not sure beyond Couture (which San Jose would never trade and we couldn't afford anyway), who would really fit.... Maybe Pavelski?
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+2 #10 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-02-12 12:07
Quoting Alcatraz:
I have no problem rolling Turris 1C and Zib 2C until Spezza gets back

What we do need is a bonafide winger, especially since Alfie days are numbered

This is where I dont think we can afford to be patient

Use a Greening, Bishop + 1st to try and lure a Bobby Ryan type player if possible. We need a true 1st line winger, something our lineup is missing

Give Turris a real 1st line winger and our scoring will improve, and then when Spezza comes back its all gravy


Totally agree, on once again trying to lure Bobby Ryan to our team.

Ryan - Spezza - Michalek

We would be a serious contender and be
able to go deeper in the playoffs .
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0 #11 The Apostle 2013-02-12 12:13
Quoting CohMa:
Could they have been looking at San Jose? I'm not sure beyond Couture (which San Jose would never trade and we couldn't afford anyway), who would really fit.... Maybe Pavelski?


I remember Couture's name coming up during the Heatley discussions, but I agree he isn't leaving SJ anytime soon. Vlasic was another but we aren't spending 4.25 million on a dman at the moment.

Maybe James Sheppard?
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+5 #12 SensChirp 2013-02-12 12:17
Have to think the Flames take a look at Ben Bishop with Kiprusoff out for at least a couple weeks.

Or is Feaster finally ready to admit it's time to blow that thing up?
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0 #13 hq8 2013-02-12 12:20
Quoting The Apostle:
Quoting CohMa:
Could they have been looking at San Jose? I'm not sure beyond Couture (which San Jose would never trade and we couldn't afford anyway), who would really fit.... Maybe Pavelski?


I remember Couture's name coming up during the Heatley discussions, but I agree he isn't leaving SJ anytime soon. Vlasic was another but we aren't spending 4.25 million on a dman at the moment.

Maybe James Sheppard?


Sheppard was linked to the sens some time ago - i think after the heatley trade - when he was still with Minnesota. He was slated to be a 1st line centreman then, but obviously hasnt panned out.

Pavelski wont get traded either. Just signed last season. there to stay. Now, Martin Havlat...dunno if the sharks really have long designs on him. Ryan Clowe has been subject to some trade rumors too last season -quiet murmurs though.
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0 #14 Sensfan90 2013-02-12 12:21
Quoting SensChirp:
Have to think the Flames take a look at Ben Bishop with Kiprusoff out for at least a couple weeks.

Or is Feaster finally ready to admit it's time to blow that thing up?


A major issue for Calgary is their drafting over the past decade has been awful. Blowing it up does not work if you cannot draft effectively deep. Look at the oilers, 4-5 years of dead last and they still may not make the playoffs.
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+4 #15 SensFanInMTL 2013-02-12 12:21
Quoting two to Tootoo too:
So - Derrik Brassard would cost what ?

Zack Smith and Matt Puempel ?

A little too much, no?


On Brassard - Don't want him, don't need him. Murray is a genius at trolling. Regin and Latendresse injured was going to happen sooner or later. Murray simply signed them both to 1 year contracts to let our prospects develop obviously. A couple years down the road with the stack of 1st rounders in Spezza, Zibanejad, Turris, Karlsson, Phillips, Noesen, Puempel, Cowen & Ceci, there's no telling how fuckin far we will end up.

In Murray we fuckin trust.

And if you don't think he is the shit at trolling...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnNyInvg_TM
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-7 #16 Alcatraz 2013-02-12 12:21
Quoting SensChirp:
Have to think the Flames take a look at Ben Bishop with Kiprusoff out for at least a couple weeks.

Or is Feaster finally ready to admit it's time to blow that thing up?


Bishop + Weircoch + petersson for Jaybo sign me up lol

Jaybo contract is done after next year

But a d core of:
Karlsson-Methot
Jaybo-Cowen
Phillips-Boro

Would be awesome with ceci waiting in the wings

Jaybo would only be 1.1 more than Gonchar

And this trade would give calgary a good young dman a solid goalie to compete with irving and a throwaway prospect haha
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0 #17 DenisVial 2013-02-12 12:26
Quoting SensChirp:
Have to think the Flames take a look at Ben Bishop with Kiprusoff out for at least a couple weeks.

Or is Feaster finally ready to admit it's time to blow that thing up?


Ownership refuses to acknowledge that their time has passed. The best thing to happen would be to tank with Kipper out and blow it up now. Iggy looks terrible, and needs a fresh start. I wish we had signed Hudler though, he's been their best player.
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+1 #18 The Apostle 2013-02-12 12:26
Quoting hq8:


Sheppard was linked to the sens some time ago - i think after the heatley trade - when he was still with Minnesota. He was slated to be a 1st line centreman then, but obviously hasnt panned out.

Pavelski wont get traded either. Just signed last season. there to stay. Now, Martin Havlat...dunno if the sharks really have long designs on him. Ryan Clowe has been subject to some trade rumors too last season -quiet murmurs though.


Bringing Havalt back would make a lot of people happy and he would be a good replacemnt for Regin as our injury prone forward.

With Sheppard, I was thinking, we give up something Murray isn't keen on to get him, trial him for the rest of this season whilst Spezza is out and if we like it we negotiate a deal (he''s RFA). If we don't, we let him walk. No harm, no foul.

Similar to the audition we gave Gilroy at the back end of last year.
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+1 #19 RUSHRLZ 2013-02-12 12:27
Quoting SensChirp:
Have to think the Flames take a look at Ben Bishop with Kiprusoff out for at least a couple weeks.

Or is Feaster finally ready to admit it's time to blow that thing up?


If I'm a Flames fan I am *praying* they finally decide to blow that shit up.

It's been slowly becoming more decrepit for years now, IMO they are the laughing stock of the league, at least for CDN franchises. Yes that is right, even the Leafs at least have acknowledged and tried to address that change is required over the past several seasons. Flames management it's like they all have their heads stuck in the sand...
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+1 #20 The Apostle 2013-02-12 12:29
Quoting SensChirp:
Have to think the Flames take a look at Ben Bishop with Kiprusoff out for at least a couple weeks.

Or is Feaster finally ready to admit it's time to blow that thing up?


Chirp, a natural reaction on this site is to take your word at more than face value because well it's your site and shit like that.

What would be useful (although I don't want you going the Eklund route) would be to let us know whether this is just your opinion as a hockey fan or whether you had heard something in your shady, back alley, nefarious discussions.

Kind of like you did when you dropped the fact that we had been discussing "things" with the ducks.
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0 #21 CohMa 2013-02-12 12:30
Quoting hq8:
[quote name="The Apostle"][quote name="CohMa"]Could they have been looking at San Jose? I'm not sure beyond Couture (which San Jose would never trade and we couldn't afford anyway), who would really fit.... Maybe Pavelski?


Pavelski wont get traded either. Just signed last season. there to stay. quote]

On Capgeek Pavelski shows as a UFA after next year.
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0 #22 CohMa 2013-02-12 12:33
Quoting SensChirp:
Have to think the Flames take a look at Ben Bishop with Kiprusoff out for at least a couple weeks.

Or is Feaster finally ready to admit it's time to blow that thing up?


Come on Chirp... They just picked up Joey MacDonald!!! Vezina!
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0 #23 hq8 2013-02-12 12:39
[quote name="The Apostle"]With Sheppard, I was thinking, we give up something Murray isn't keen on to get him, trial him for the rest of this season whilst Spezza is out and if we like it we negotiate a deal (he''s RFA). If we don't, we let him walk. No harm, no foul.

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Sheppard btw doesnt have a bad recurring injury history - just an ATV accident that made him miss 2010-2011. According to the hockey news he can play both center and wing....for whatever its worth. he would be a real reclamation project. low risk - probably no reward lol.
It sucks with Regin, he was starting to get some jump in the Buffalo game and bam injured again.
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0 #24 Alcatraz 2013-02-12 12:40
In San Jose I would think the sens are looking at:

Clowe
Sheppard
Havlat
Murray (boo ya!) (UFA year end)

I would offer up Greening + 1st for Clowe and murray. Honestly would, only if an extensions are agreed upon with Murray and Clowe

Murray would be the most ideal fit for Cowen on the 2nd pairing (and is swede haha) But Murray would lock us down defensively for a long time

Clowe would be a top line winger we are looking for who is big and can get dirty

Both of those players are UFA and San jose could potentially look to move them, although it would hurt their playoff chances, which is why i'm including NHL ready greening into the mix
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0 #25 hq8 2013-02-12 12:43
Quoting CohMa:
Quoting hq8:
[quote name="The Apostle"][quote name="CohMa"]Could they have been looking at San Jose? I'm not sure beyond Couture (which San Jose would never trade and we couldn't afford anyway), who would really fit.... Maybe Pavelski?


Pavelski wont get traded either. Just signed last season. there to stay. quote]

On Capgeek Pavelski shows as a UFA after next year.


my bad signed in 2010 - still unlikely he goes - part of their future core with couture. if it happens - that would be a sharks' blow-up move.
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0 #26 CohMa 2013-02-12 12:43
I don't think it's been mentioned yet, but unfortunately for the Sens AJ Jakubec tweeted Erhoff, Sekera and Regehr are back tonight. And Myers draws back in after being a healthy scratch for a couple games.
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+3 #27 hq8 2013-02-12 12:44
Quoting Alcatraz:
In San Jose I would think the sens are looking at:

Clowe
Sheppard
Havlat
Murray (boo ya!) (UFA year end)

I would offer up Greening + 1st for Clowe and murray. Honestly would, only if an extensions are agreed upon with Murray and Clowe

Murray would be the most ideal fit for Cowen on the 2nd pairing (and is swede haha) But Murray would lock us down defensively for a long time

Clowe would be a top line winger we are looking for who is big and can get dirty

Both of those players are UFA and San jose could potentially look to move them, although it would hurt their playoff chances, which is why i'm including NHL ready greening into the mix


except if Greening plays like he can, he could be Ottawa's Ryan Clowe. Same size, better skater i think - just need the finish.
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0 #28 Alcatraz 2013-02-12 12:46
Quoting hq8:


except if Greening plays like he can, he could be Ottawa's Ryan Clowe. Same size, better skater i think - just need the finish.


Too much ifs with greening, and he really has only proven he can score with Spezza

Greening is 26 and Clowe is 30, its not like Greening is this really young prospect

Also it won't be long before Noesen is ahead of Greening as our "power forward of the future" anyways
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+5 #29 The Apostle 2013-02-12 12:47
[quote name="Alcatraz"]

I would offer up Greening + 1st for Clowe and murray. Honestly would, only if an extensions are agreed upon with Murray and Clowe

most of the trades we come up with on here are an absolute crock of shit - but I like this one and that pisses me off.
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+4 #30 Kielbasa 2013-02-12 12:48
Here's hoping that the real Sens show up tonight and not the ones who showed up last game wearing concrete skates and rubber sticks.
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+1 #31 hq8 2013-02-12 12:50
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting hq8:


except if Greening plays like he can, he could be Ottawa's Ryan Clowe. Same size, better skater i think - just need the finish.


Too much ifs with greening, and he really has only proven he can score with Spezza

Greening is 26 and Clowe is 30, its not like Greening is this really young prospect

Also it won't be long before Noesen is ahead of Greening as our "power forward of the future" anyways


tru dat. i like your suggestion actually - it sounds palatable to an extent. but this year's draft is deep so that first rounder may hurt.
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0 #32 Alcatraz 2013-02-12 12:53
Quoting hq8:
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting hq8:


except if Greening plays like he can, he could be Ottawa's Ryan Clowe. Same size, better skater i think - just need the finish.


Too much ifs with greening, and he really has only proven he can score with Spezza

Greening is 26 and Clowe is 30, its not like Greening is this really young prospect

Also it won't be long before Noesen is ahead of Greening as our "power forward of the future" anyways


tru dat. i like your suggestion actually - it sounds palatable to an extent. but this year's draft is deep so that first rounder may hurt.


True, and its tough giving up a 1st but I think we can afford to, also if we do get Murray, I would then try and flip Gonchar and a 3rd for a 1st haha
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+3 #33 SensChirp 2013-02-12 12:54
Quoting The Apostle:
Quoting SensChirp:
Have to think the Flames take a look at Ben Bishop with Kiprusoff out for at least a couple weeks.

Or is Feaster finally ready to admit it's time to blow that thing up?


Chirp, a natural reaction on this site is to take your word at more than face value because well it's your site and shit like that.

What would be useful (although I don't want you going the Eklund route) would be to let us know whether this is just your opinion as a hockey fan or whether you had heard something in your shady, back alley, nefarious discussions.

Kind of like you did when you dropped the fact that we had been discussing "things" with the ducks.

Fair enough.

This is very much my own speculation. I mean, I know for a fact they are exploring options to deal Bishop but including Calgary as a trade partner is speculation.

I try to emphasize the difference with "According to people I've spoken with" or "Contacts tell me.." but perhaps I need to be a little more clear.

Suggestion noted!
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+1 #34 The Apostle 2013-02-12 12:57
Quoting SensChirp:


I try to emphasize the difference with "According to people I've spoken with" or "Contacts tell me.." but perhaps I need to be a little more clear.

Suggestion noted!


agreed, i just think our default is if it's chirp saying it, it must be true.

You know like the pope, but the complete opposite.
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+1 #35 The Apostle 2013-02-12 13:00
Quoting hq8:

tru dat. i like your suggestion actually - it sounds palatable to an extent. but this year's draft is deep so that first rounder may hurt.


In this scenario I would wait until we have a better idea of whether we are making the playoffs or not. If we are then this deal becomes a lot better I think..

I would hate to do this deal and finish outside the playoffs, With our luck, the pick we gave up would win the lottery.
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+2 #36 The Milkybar Kid 2013-02-12 13:00
Quoting SensChirp:



This is very much my own speculation. I mean, I know for a fact they are exploring options to deal Bishop but including Calgary as a trade partner is speculation.

I try to emphasize the difference with "According to people I've spoken with" or "Contacts tell me.." but perhaps I need to be a little more clear.

Suggestion noted!


It's ALL good - you are allowed to e a fan too
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+1 #37 Alcatraz 2013-02-12 13:01
Quoting The Apostle:
Quoting hq8:

tru dat. i like your suggestion actually - it sounds palatable to an extent. but this year's draft is deep so that first rounder may hurt.


In this scenario I would wait until we have a better idea of whether we are making the playoffs or not. If we are then this deal becomes a lot better I think..

I would hate to do this deal and finish outside the playoffs, With our luck, the pick we gave up would win the lottery.


Again fair point, especially with the new lottery system

I wonder with the new lottery system if you will see NHL teams take the NBA approach of trading first round picks that are top 5 or top 10 lotteyr protected meaning if the pick falls in top 5 or top 10 then the pick goes to the following year (no longer protected)
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+2 #38 Sandy 2013-02-12 13:04
I would prefer Murray not trade away the first round pick this year. The draft is suppose to be a good one, and remember the Sens don't have a 2nd rounder this draft.

Hoping the team gets back to playing their game tonight. Simple hockey... no fancy stuff. You have a chance to shoot on net.. then do it.. stop passing when you can shoot. Get to the net for deflections.. other teams do it..

Won't be an easy game tonight with Buffalo almost at a full lineup..

I wonder if Scott will try to run Karlsson.. he would have to catch him first.

Kaleta is back as well.. he causes trouble.

Next up Pitts & Tor. How can the Leafs be playing as well as they are? They have no #1 centre and I don't believe their forwards are better than the Sens.

They have quite a few hard hitters... calling for BoroCop or Gryba up by Saturday.
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-1 #39 hq8 2013-02-12 13:12
Quoting Sandy:
Next up Pitts & Tor. How can the Leafs be playing as well as they are? They have no #1 centre and I don't believe their forwards are better than the Sens.

They have quite a few hard hitters... calling for BoroCop or Gryba up by Saturday.


Speed, speed and more speed. Their top six is pretty fast and young. Count it: Bozak, Kessel, JVR, Grabo, MacArthur, Frattin, Kulemin. McClement was a nice pickup for them too. Credit due where its deserved - outside of the Kessel trade, Burke did make the Leafs front end pretty strong. If he only never traded Kessel i think he would have kept his job still and probably better. consider this - when he joined they had Stajan, Blake, Stempniak, Ponikarovsky, Antropov and so on.
but to be realistic, when the leafs face a real defense in this league they shit the bed. philly, mtl and the game against the penguis were not good defensive efforts by those teams.
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-4 #40 hq8 2013-02-12 13:26
btw whoever suggested acquiring JayBo from CGY for Bishop and PW46: that kind of move will turn the ottawa defense into an offensive juggernaut.

i think the sens need a few more starting goalies to filibuster around the league and then Bishop's value would be unrealistic.

btw do you guys think Dave Nonis calls Bryan Murray for Bishop????
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0 #41 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-12 13:36
Quoting SensChirp:
Have to think the Flames take a look at Ben Bishop with Kiprusoff out for at least a couple weeks.

Or is Feaster finally ready to admit it's time to blow that thing up?


They picked up Joey MacDonald on waivers from the Detroit Red Wings, so they are all set ;)
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0 #42 NadislavLagy 2013-02-12 13:37
Edmonton's scratched Smyth for tomorrow and Whitney has been a scratch for most of the season I think. Now, this isn't me saying that they would be a good fir for the Sens, since they are both UFAs, and clearly struggling for some reason. I think Smyth would end up back in Edmonton unless he's not pleased with the coaching staff for scratching him, and I think Whitney goes back to the US, but for a cheap price, a team might get a nice veteran presence for the playoffs.
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+3 #43 Alcatraz 2013-02-12 13:42
Quoting NadislavLagy:
Edmonton's scratched Smyth for tomorrow and Whitney has been a scratch for most of the season I think. Now, this isn't me saying that they would be a good fir for the Sens, since they are both UFAs, and clearly struggling for some reason. I think Smyth would end up back in Edmonton unless he's not pleased with the coaching staff for scratching him, and I think Whitney goes back to the US, but for a cheap price, a team might get a nice veteran presence for the playoffs.


All I know is Edmonton is young and have sucked the past few years. They have beek OK this yea rbut not great, so if they can't crack that lineup that is injury riddled and need veteran presence, then I dont want them on my team
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0 #44 NadislavLagy 2013-02-12 14:01
Whitney's struggled with injuries, but when healthy has put up numbers. Perhaps he's off to a slow start. Again, not saying OTT should get him, but look at his #s:

09-10: 11pts in 19gms
10-11: 27pts in 35gms
11-12: 20 pts in 51gms

Again, he'd be a pure rental, cause I think he'll go back to the US.
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-12 #45 IcySurfas 2013-02-12 14:02
Zack Smith...after 12 games hes been noticibly the worst player (in his role) on this team so far(IMO). sloppy skating, constant falling, can't set-up or complete any plays, shooting everywhere BUT the net, and not to mention seems to be drawing a fair amount of un-timely stupid penalties. Im not picking on his lack of points per say, but more so hes supposed to be an energy guy. So where is that? What...2 fights and hes forgiven for been shit the rest of the time?

Sorry if this comes out harsh sounding, but I honestly expected more out of this guy based on his game last year.

I really love the effort from all our players so far this year...but Im sorry, Smith for me has really stood out for all his faults.
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0 #46 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-12 14:02
If Ottawa is truly calling this a 3 year rebuild, then the expectation is we draft this year, regardless of where we end up. However, it's hard to draft well if all your picks are beyond the 1st and 2nd round.

I believe in the Sens drafting, they can draft better than most. But you can't be trading away your 1st round pick this year, not in a true rebuild. And it's been mentioned, we don't have a 2nd rounder.

So BM either trades his 1st for someone that he expects to be better than anyone in the 1st round, who jumps in now and will stay long term, thus not requiring the 1st. Or he does what he did two years ago, stay the course the rest of the way and move a few players at the deadline for picks. Obviously these will be players who have made somewhat of a name for themselves, or the picks won't be worth much.

2nd option makes sense. We have many players coming through the system looking to play eventually who we just won't have space for.
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0 #47 EH_Matt 2013-02-12 14:12
Quoting SensChirp:
Have to think the Flames take a look at Ben Bishop with Kiprusoff out for at least a couple weeks.

Or is Feaster finally ready to admit it's time to blow that thing up?

Some people may not agree because of the contract and what he's done in Calgary, but I would be willing to try and pry Jay Bouwmeester from them. His contract may be big, but it's only for the rest of this season and next. Plus, I think he might thrive in a puck possession system playing with Karlsson or Cowen (when he returns next year). The points and steller play in Florida weren't a fluke for him. It's Calgary's defense first system that is limiting him.
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0 #48 Prusek 2013-02-12 14:25
Quoting IcySurfas:
Zack Smith...after 12 games hes been noticibly the worst player (in his role) on this team so far(IMO). sloppy skating, constant falling, can't set-up or complete any plays, shooting everywhere BUT the net,


I think Smith is the most overrated player on this team. He had a decent month of December last year but had only 5 points in his last 40 games. Saturday was the type of game that needed someone like a Smith to get some emotion in the game but he was invisible like usual. Jim O'Brien makes more happen then Smith. I'm surprised Smith gets such a free pass with the media and fans.
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0 #49 SensFanInMTL 2013-02-12 14:25
Quoting MethotToMyMadness:
If Ottawa is truly calling this a 3 year rebuild, then the expectation is we draft this year, regardless of where we end up. However, it's hard to draft well if all your picks are beyond the 1st and 2nd round.

I believe in the Sens drafting, they can draft better than most. But you can't be trading away your 1st round pick this year, not in a true rebuild. And it's been mentioned, we don't have a 2nd rounder.


Read post 15!

As for any of the coveted Ducks players, it would be best to wait until the Summer. The Ducks are doing well this year, why in the hell would they get rid of Perry or Ryan? If still no talks by after trade deadline and speculations are that Perry and Getzlaf testing the market, that's when we hunt down Perry. This year's draft is also going to be a good one with the 2011 similar feeling.
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0 #50 hq8 2013-02-12 14:25
Quoting EH_Matt:
Quoting SensChirp:
Have to think the Flames take a look at Ben Bishop with Kiprusoff out for at least a couple weeks.

Or is Feaster finally ready to admit it's time to blow that thing up?

Some people may not agree because of the contract and what he's done in Calgary, but I would be willing to try and pry Jay Bouwmeester from them. His contract may be big, but it's only for the rest of this season and next. Plus, I think he might thrive in a puck possession system playing with Karlsson or Cowen (when he returns next year). The points and steller play in Florida weren't a fluke for him. It's Calgary's defense first system that is limiting him.


and he has looked good this season - the game against Chicago he was everywhere on the ice. 5 pts in 10 games. I think edmonton would make a big play for him considering he is from edm.
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-8 #51 Top6Help 2013-02-12 14:30
Murray should take a look at Mike Cammalleri. He can play center and each wing and is a playoff performer. If Spezza makes it back could have pretty solid top 6 ..


Michalek Spezza Silfverberg
Cammalleri Turris Alfredsson
Greening Smith Neil
Condra JOB Zibanejad
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+2 #52 Sensnation 2013-02-12 14:35
Quoting Prusek:
Quoting IcySurfas:
Zack Smith...after 12 games hes been noticibly the worst player (in his role) on this team so far(IMO). sloppy skating, constant falling, can't set-up or complete any plays, shooting everywhere BUT the net,


I think Smith is the most overrated player on this team. He had a decent month of December last year but had only 5 points in his last 40 games. Saturday was the type of game that needed someone like a Smith to get some emotion in the game but he was invisible like usual. Jim O'Brien makes more happen then Smith. I'm surprised Smith gets such a free pass with the media and fans.


He's a career 3rd line C, hard to hate him for not producing like a 2nd line C. Yes he could use a bit more emotion in his game, but the team asked him to curb some of those fights a couple years ago. I still like what he brings as a bottom 6 pairing, but not opposed to trading him either.
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+1 #53 IcySurfas 2013-02-12 14:44
Had a nice reminder of how pathetic Toronto Sports Media can be. Last Thursday I happened to catch some sports highlights on Toronto's "City News" Channel (didnt realize what channel I had stopped on at first). They get too Leafs game against Jets that night, and the sports guy was salivating while reporting that Phil Kessel had finally scored his first goal of season in that game. They were talking it up like he just hit 50 on the season, but no, it was his 1st friggin goal and they were all giddy and smiles like they were reporting an actual major feat.

Next...they actually put Phil Kessel vs Tyler Seguin's stats on the screen, to show that Kessel had now passed Sequin in points by 1 (at the time).

I was fairly speechless at the time as to what these idiots were trying to spoon feed and actually suggest to its viewers.

Pathetic...and sad, if you ask me.
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-8 #54 Dirtysweet 2013-02-12 14:50
What about Dustin Penner from LA? Big, physical winger and a former Murray draftee. Not a lot to give up in terms of a trade. Only downside would be his commitment and conditioning.
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+2 #55 Alcatraz 2013-02-12 14:52
further to that Alfie=God Iphone thing

This just proves that Apple uses Wikipedia in their algarathims lol

Wikipedia listing of hockey nicknames: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ice_hockey_nicknames

Use the same question function as the God, as any other nickname here

Example: Ask siri to show a picture of ned flanders
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-1 #56 hq8 2013-02-12 14:55
Quoting Dirtysweet:
What about Dustin Penner from LA? Big, physical winger and a former Murray draftee. Not a lot to give up in terms of a trade. Only downside would be his commitment and conditioning.

was never drafted. BM signed him out of college.
i think the trade to edmonton kick started his downward sprial. he was pretty useful for LA in the playoffs - dont understand his bad rap. i guess pancakes can get you that.
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+1 #57 Alcatraz 2013-02-12 14:55
Quoting hq8:
Quoting Dirtysweet:
What about Dustin Penner from LA? Big, physical winger and a former Murray draftee. Not a lot to give up in terms of a trade. Only downside would be his commitment and conditioning.

was never drafted. BM signed him out of college.
i think the trade to edmonton kick started his downward sprial. he was pretty useful for LA in the playoffs - dont understand his bad rap. i guess pancakes can get you that.


Never traded to Edmonton, he signed through offer sheet
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+4 #58 RUSHRLZ 2013-02-12 14:56
Quoting Dirtysweet:
What about Dustin Penner from LA? Big, physical winger and a former Murray draftee. Not a lot to give up in terms of a trade. Only downside would be his commitment and conditioning.


Good god please stop, I was sick of the Pancakes Penner idea two or three years ago!
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+4 #59 CohMa 2013-02-12 15:00
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting Dirtysweet:
What about Dustin Penner from LA? Big, physical winger and a former Murray draftee. Not a lot to give up in terms of a trade. Only downside would be his commitment and conditioning.


Good god please stop, I was sick of the Pancakes Penner idea two or three years ago!


And don't forget the Sens are a 200 ft skating, puck moving team. It would be like having 2 Latrendresses out there. One prone to head injuries and the other breakfast injuries.
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-2 #60 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-12 15:06
Quoting Top6Help:
Murray should take a look at Mike Cammalleri. He can play center and each wing and is a playoff performer. If Spezza makes it back could have pretty solid top 6 ..


Michalek Spezza Silfverberg
Cammalleri Turris Alfredsson
Greening Smith Neil
Condra JOB Zibanejad


I was SO hoping Ottawa would snag Cammalleri as an FA the year Montreal signed him. He has diminished somewhat since his bigger scoring days, a lot since being in Montreal, but he is still a very capable player. He's the true type of guy who would benefit from a change of scenery.

If BM managed to get Cam, I don't think we'd be able to keep Michalek. And even if we did keep both, I think I'd rather see Cammalleri on Spezza's wing over 9MM.

Cammalleri has a good nose for the net and has faired well in the playoffs, when he's made it.
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0 #61 Sentaur 2013-02-12 15:07
For anyone who has an iphone:

http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2013/02/12/if-you-ask-siri-for-a-picture-of-god-you-get-daniel-alfredsson/
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0 #62 Tcharger 2013-02-12 15:11
Totally off topic, but does anyone know why Real Sports is shut?

Went by today and their was a sign saying closed due to unforeseen circumstances on the door.
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0 #63 Alcatraz 2013-02-12 15:13
Quoting Sentaur:
For anyone who has an iphone:

http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2013/02/12/if-you-ask-siri-for-a-picture-of-god-you-get-daniel-alfredsson/


Scroll up a few posts, or scroll to yesterdays thread lol
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+3 #64 Sandy 2013-02-12 15:16
A big no to Penner.

As for Kessel's 1st goal this season.. that was more or less front page news by the Toronto centric media (TSN & Sportsnet). If he wasn't playing for the Leafs it would be a non-story.

Cammalleri is hurt and on IR..

We all expect Bishop to be dealt sometime this season. What the return would be.. who knows.

If the Sens are not in a playoff spot and look to be completely out by the trade deadline.. then Gonchar will be gone.

Don't see them trading anyone else at this point. Most of the team is young or a fixture in Ottawa...

As for Lundin.. he has played a grand total of 2 games for the Sens. I say we give him a little more time to adjust to a new partner and a team system before we throw him under the bus.
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0 #65 Top6Help 2013-02-12 15:17
I was SO hoping Ottawa would snag Cammalleri as an FA the year Montreal signed him. He has diminished somewhat since his bigger scoring days, a lot since being in Montreal, but he is still a very capable player. He's the true type of guy who would benefit from a change of scenery.

If BM managed to get Cam, I don't think we'd be able to keep Michalek. And even if we did keep both, I think I'd rather see Cammalleri on Spezza's wing over 9MM.

Cammalleri has a good nose for the net and has faired well in the playoffs, when he's made it.

Cam on Spezza's wing would work too having him on the 2nd just too show depth by adding a legit top 6 player thats versatile and a sniper
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0 #66 Alcatraz 2013-02-12 15:17
Quoting Sandy:
A big no to Penner.

As for Kessel's 1st goal this season.. that was more or less front page news by the Toronto centric media (TSN & Sportsnet). If he wasn't playing for the Leafs it would be a non-story.


As much as I agree, but had Spezza gone the first 10 games without scoring also, Most Sens fans would already be looking for ways to trade him and its all we would talk about also

Better yet, could you imagine if Karlsson didn't score in his first 10 games?
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+2 #67 ProudSens 2013-02-12 15:38
The Sens has been without at least two ligit top 6 forwards for many years now. Hope that Ziby or Silf will fill those holes, but if something will help now and for many years to come, Brian should bite the bullet and getter done. In Murray we trust! Go Sens Go!!
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+4 #68 hq8 2013-02-12 15:52
frankly sens best move is to stick with it. Once Spezza and Cowen are fully healthy the pieces will fall in place along with healthy continuous progression of the sens prospects.

can't wait for game tonight. hopefully these guys put in a good performance to quiet the doubters.
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0 #69 FBP 2013-02-12 15:57
Quoting hq8:
Quoting EH_Matt:
Quoting SensChirp:
Have to think the Flames take a look at Ben Bishop with Kiprusoff out for at least a couple weeks.

Or is Feaster finally ready to admit it's time to blow that thing up?

Some people may not agree because of the contract and what he's done in Calgary, but I would be willing to try and pry Jay Bouwmeester from them. His contract may be big, but it's only for the rest of this season and next. Plus, I think he might thrive in a puck possession system playing with Karlsson or Cowen (when he returns next year). The points and steller play in Florida weren't a fluke for him. It's Calgary's defense first system that is limiting him.


and he has looked good this season - the game against Chicago he was everywhere on the ice. 5 pts in 10 games. I think edmonton would make a big play for him considering he is from edm.


What equal salary would Calgary take back?
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0 #70 hq8 2013-02-12 16:00
Quoting FBP:
Quoting hq8:
[quote name="EH_Matt"][and he has looked good this season - the game against Chicago he was everywhere on the ice. 5 pts in 10 games. I think edmonton would make a big play for him considering he is from edm.


What equal salary would Calgary take back?



no idea....i dont suggest a trade for him btw - i think its overkill and his salary demands may be high once he becomes UFA. i think he is a better fit in edmonton.
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+4 #71 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2013-02-12 16:06
Regin and Latendresse, two players who will not be on this team next season.

Sometimes, there are must-win regular season games. This is one of those games.

Sens need a win tonight.

GSG
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+2 #72 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-12 16:22
I got tickets for tonight, looking forward to my first Sens game of the season. I hope it's not my only one.
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0 #73 Andrews Theory 2013-02-12 16:30
ya the only guy on san jose that fits our needs currently and is likely available is havlat but i dont imagine he'd come cheap.

I would love to see him back in Ottawa though as one of my all time favourite Senators to watch.

I'd also be ok with bringing back prospal to finish out the year as an inexpensive stop gap.

I'm a big fan of putting young players in a position to be succesful while developing and that's going to be tough to do scoring 1-2 goals a game.
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0 #74 miguel 2013-02-12 16:34
Tonights game is a pivotal game for our Sens.
We have been struggling without one of the top Centre's in the NHL, and most teams would feel this pain as well.
However we are in a bit of a dilemna... are we the team that made the playoffs last year and almost knocked off a cup favorite in the NYR? or are we really the team that is in the second year of a rebuild?
The past few games some of the horses that got us that far last year; Greening, Smith, MM9, have proven that maybe they are not capable of producing without the help of a Spezza.
Add to that a couple of hopefuls, we were counting on to help produce this year, are turning out to worst case scenario, in Lats, and Regin.
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-1 #75 Andrews Theory 2013-02-12 16:34
Quoting hq8:
frankly sens best move is to stick with it. Once Spezza and Cowen are fully healthy the pieces will fall in place along with healthy continuous progression of the sens prospects.

can't wait for game tonight. hopefully these guys put in a good performance to quiet the doubters.



you do realize that last year was an anomoly where everybody stayed healthy right? injuries are a fact of life which is why depth wins the cup...I'm not advocating blowing up the rebuild but having zibby, turris and silf play exagerated roles is highly debatable for their development.
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0 #76 miguel 2013-02-12 16:35
Contd
If this slide should continue, our discussions on this forum should go back to playing our youth to see what potoenial they have, and what value they will be in our rebuild.

Lets keep playing Benoit, put DaCosta on a first/Second line, lets get Gyrba up here.
But if we win, then its back to playoffs and the finals :)
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0 #77 Merchaholic 2013-02-12 16:43
Contrary to popular
belief, the 2013 draft isn ’ t nearly as
deep as scouts initially projected the
past couple of seasons.
So for teams really struggling through
the first two weeks of play – are you
listening fans of Calgary , Columbus ,
Phoenix, Florida and Washington (for
now) – it means you have the highest
odds of selecting a really high - end talent
that can become a franchise cornerstone
for 15- plus years . But for the 7 / 11
teams out there ( those just missing the
playoffs and destined to draft in the No .
10-14 slots) , a mid - first round pick this
year isn ’ t any more special than any
other year .
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+2 #78 Alcatraz 2013-02-12 16:48
To be honest what I would like more than anything is for our players to not have to force Murray's hand

Would we all like a top end winger? Yes

Would we all like a top 4 dman? Yes

What we need the most is for Michalek, Greening, Smith to return to last year's form

What we desire is for Silf, Zib and Turris to continue developing into what we hope are stars

Those should be our 2 biggest wishes, the above 2 would be gravy
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0 #79 Sensnation 2013-02-12 16:49
Quoting Merchaholic:
Contrary to popular
belief, the 2013 draft isn ’ t nearly as
deep as scouts initially projected the
past couple of seasons.
So for teams really struggling through
the first two weeks of play – are you
listening fans of Calgary , Columbus ,
Phoenix, Florida and Washington (for
now) – it means you have the highest
odds of selecting a really high - end talent
that can become a franchise cornerstone
for 15- plus years . But for the 7 / 11
teams out there ( those just missing the
playoffs and destined to draft in the No .
10-14 slots) , a mid - first round pick this
year isn ’ t any more special than any
other year .


The biggest change however, is that all teams who miss the playoffs get in on the lottery. So really none of the teams that miss the playoffs will know where they stand until well past the trade deadline.
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-2 #80 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2013-02-12 16:52
Quoting miguel:

The past few games some of the horses that got us that far last year; Greening, Smith, MM9, have proven that maybe they are not capable of producing without the help of a Spezza.
Add to that a couple of hopefuls, we were counting on to help produce this year, are turning out to worst case scenario, in Lats, and Regin.


Like many fans, I fully expected to see the Peter Regin of 3 years ago that we saw against the Pens in the playoffs.

I don't think we will ever see that Regin again, at least with this team.

It's still "early" in the season, but has been nothing short of utter disappointment. He has had one good memorable play all season.

He was expected to help the secondary scoring this year, and hasn't. Glad to see JOB back in the lineup. He had no business sitting last game, don't know what Paul was thinking there.

GSG
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0 #81 hq8 2013-02-12 16:59
Quoting Andrews Theory:

you do realize that last year was an anomoly where everybody stayed healthy right? injuries are a fact of life which is why depth wins the cup...I'm not advocating blowing up the rebuild but having zibby, turris and silf play exagerated roles is highly debatable for their development.


last year was not an anomaly because none of us expect spezza to be out for two months every season. this year is the anomaly. last year set the lower bar for the sens normal performance range, it set the minimum expectation - which has always been there anyways: make the playoffs.

exagerrated roles: it would look like that but not true. Maclean rolls four lines and expects all his lines to pitch in offensively. obviously with guys like spezza around, the ones who dont score consistently get sheltered, but the expectation is still there. therefore its not exagerrated, its just more accountable.
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0 #82 Hoeee 2013-02-12 17:36
What sucks about these injuries is that our best prospects offensivly are injured as well.

Mark Stone
Mike Hoffman ( he almost beat out Greening for the roster spot at training camp)
Andre Petersson ( Had a great rookie season but got injured this season)
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0 #83 Andrews Theory 2013-02-12 19:03
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last year was not an anomaly because none of us expect spezza to be out for two months every season. this year is the anomaly. last year set the lower bar for the sens normal performance range, it set the
minimum expectation - which has always been there anyways: make the playoffs.

exagerrated roles: it would look like that but not true. Maclean rolls four lines and expects all his lines to pitch in offensively. obviously with guys like spezza around, the ones who dont score consistently get sheltered, but the expectation is still there. therefore its not exagerrated, its just more accountable
.

Obviously you don't expect Spezza to be out for two months every year but he frequently misses 10-20 games a year. Further to that, 24 teams lost more man games to injury than the sens last year and 124 out of 192 man games were Regin and Winchester..tha t my friend is anomoly.
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-1 #84 A Train 2013-02-12 19:13
Anyone know where the org sees a mature Zibanejad playing:

Wing or Center?

I ask because it has been a LONG time since our depth at wing has been so suspect. Silfverberg is a good player, but if he doesn't end up being a significant scoring threat and IF Stone doesn't pan out that way either and IF Zibanejad is in fact more of a defensively responsible centre....well, there's not a lot of high-ceiling talent in the system.
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+3 #85 Zira1 2013-02-12 19:17
Anaheim has scouts at tonight's game and Ottawa has scouts at Anaheim's game in Chi. Good time to start rumors or good guesses.
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0 #86 Mitchell 2013-02-12 19:32
hey does anyone of a link for a stream i live in london ontario and sadly sportsnet east must consider me west.
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+1 #87 karlssens 2013-02-12 19:34
At the game tonight, tons of emotion when the boys came on the ice!
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+1 #88 SensFanInMTL 2013-02-12 19:38
I live for all this morning, day and night. Always, so..... good to go again.
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+3 #89 CohMa 2013-02-12 19:39
Quoting Zira1:
Anaheim has scouts at tonight's game and Ottawa has scouts at Anaheim's game in Chi. Good time to start rumors or good guesses.


Please not Cogliano, that's all I have to say
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0 #90 Jester 2013-02-12 19:46
stream would be great as I'm in buffalo's blackout zone gamecenter sucks
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0 #91 SensFanInMTL 2013-02-12 19:48
Stream to game

http://88.80.11.29/60080/watch-buffalo-sabres-vs-ottawa-senators
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0 #92 Mitchell 2013-02-12 19:49
http://www8.livetv.ru/webplayer2.php?t=castalba&c=7224&lang=en&eid=153481&lid=45269&ci=2&si=2
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+1 #93 Jester 2013-02-12 19:57
thank you gentlemen i just have to deal with rick"every goal is the cup" jeneorette
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+2 #94 karlssens 2013-02-12 20:02
Good lord karlsson has to do it all himself
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+2 #95 IrishCanadian 2013-02-12 20:02
I'd like someone other than Craig Anderson and Erik Karlsson to show up now please.
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0 #96 A Train 2013-02-12 20:07
Quoting Zira1:
Anaheim has scouts at tonight's game and Ottawa has scouts at Anaheim's game in Chi. Good time to start rumors or good guesses.


I fear Zibanejad is being showcased. He was never really their guy in that draft and his name popped up in trade rumours last year.
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0 #97 Sandy 2013-02-12 20:07
Nice crosscheck to Karlsson's ribs there that goes unnoticed by Joanette and his crew. Right under the pad protection.

Yeah interesting that scouts from Anaheim/Ottawa checking out each other games...

Also didn't someone mention awhile ago that Methot & Corey Perry are former teammates with the London Knights and are also friends?

Wouldn't sell the farm for Perry unless he agrees to a contract extension with Ottawa.
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0 #98 SensFanInMTL 2013-02-12 20:09
This is frustrating to watch, and we're not even losing. Hope Penguins are still interested in Gonchar at the deadline. Would love to unload him and bring up someone else.
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+1 #99 Bellsey 2013-02-12 20:09
Gonchar makes the most brutal suicide passes to our players on the PP through the neutral zone
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0 #100 hq8 2013-02-12 20:10
early game shitshows: Gonchar and Lundin
each shift on ice they have pooped every where - literally.
Phillips and PW46 have looked out of sorts too.
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0 #101 hq8 2013-02-12 20:11
Quoting Bellsey:
Gonchar makes the most brutal suicide passes to our players on the PP through the neutral zone


literally the worst passes. his pass is what caused that lousy slash on alfie...sabres D is not in this game either, but they are more in than the sens bottom two pairings.
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0 #102 Sandy 2013-02-12 20:15
Not Sens related.. but GM Scott Howson fired by the Blue Jackets...

Who would be next? Old Burkie?
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0 #103 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2013-02-12 20:16
Sometimes I wonder why this team is so bad on the powerplay with all the talent they have.
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0 #104 Sandy 2013-02-12 20:16
Quoting SensFanInMTL:
This is frustrating to watch, and we're not even losing. Hope Penguins are still interested in Gonchar at the deadline. Would love to unload him and bring up someone else.



Why has this team stopped playing 'their game'? They are just wait too tight...

Need a goal to loosen up.
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0 #105 hq8 2013-02-12 20:30
Quoting Sandy:
Not Sens related.. but GM Scott Howson fired by the Blue Jackets...

Who would be next? Old Burkie?


lol thats not good for the sens. he was one of the few GMs bryan murray stole from easily. didnt he trade lehner's 2nd rounder and leclaire for vermette? and also methot for foligno?
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0 #106 Sandy 2013-02-12 20:33
ustream.tv/chan nel/bsenshockey live -- is also showing Ottawa Sens.

I went there to see B-Sens but the game is not on.

BSens lead WBS 3-0 on goals by Grant, Prince & Dziursnyski. Seems like Nathan Lawson started but replaced by Lehner. A WBS player was given a 5 Min penalty + a game for charging the goalie. Lawson must be hurt.. His time in net coincides with the penalty..
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0 #107 SensFanInMTL 2013-02-12 20:34
Quoting Sandy:
Not Sens related.. but GM Scott Howson fired by the Blue Jackets...

Who would be next? Old Burkie?

Shit that happened like minutes ago...

As well he should've been. Your chances of survival becomes limited when you send Couturier and Voracek to another team to acquire Jeff Carter, only to ship off Carter and get close to nothing from that trade and then ship off your captain and get left over crap the Rangers didn't need anymore. Not to mention, years of being a shitty franchise with their captain being their only claim to fame. Phuck. Now Murray can't fleece him anymore!
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-1 #108 DenisVial 2013-02-12 20:38
Quoting A Train:
Quoting Zira1:
Anaheim has scouts at tonight's game and Ottawa has scouts at Anaheim's game in Chi. Good time to start rumors or good guesses.


I fear Zibanejad is being showcased. He was never really their guy in that draft and his name popped up in trade rumours last year.


I was thinking the same thing, as otherwise wouldn't DaCosta who is more experienced be on one of the top two lines?
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+2 #109 Sandy 2013-02-12 20:40
BSens now up 4-0 -- seems they have no trouble scoring considering the forwards they have lost to injury or to Ottawa.

They also scored another SH goal tonight... they lead the AHL with 13 of those. That's incredible.

Luke Richardson is doing a tremendous job with the BSens this year...
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0 #110 Sandy 2013-02-12 20:41
Quoting Sandy:
BSens now up 4-0 -- seems they have no trouble scoring considering the forwards they have lost to injury or to Ottawa.

They also scored another SH goal tonight... they lead the AHL with 13 of those. That's incredible.

Luke Richardson is doing a tremendous job with the BSens this year...



Make the 5-0 now... they are rolling...
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+1 #111 SensFanInMTL 2013-02-12 20:45
The chances are coming. But man Spezza's presence or lack thereof is obvious.
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0 #112 hq8 2013-02-12 20:48
gonchar and lundin pain to watch
da costa has looked good they need to give him the time
sens needed to score on the PP.....soon the refs will give buffalo the PPs....
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+1 #113 jaydog 2013-02-12 20:51
Quoting DenisVial:
Quoting A Train:
Quoting Zira1:
Anaheim has scouts at tonight's game and Ottawa has scouts at Anaheim's game in Chi. Good time to start rumors or good guesses.


I fear Zibanejad is being showcased. He was never really their guy in that draft and his name popped up in trade rumours last year.


I was thinking the same thing, as otherwise wouldn't DaCosta who is more experienced be on one of the top two lines?


i think trading zibby will come back to haunt us. Him, Noesen and Ceci are our true blue chip prospects. The rest are all hopefuls or third liners (Silf may be a fringe blue-chipper)
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+1 #114 hq8 2013-02-12 20:53
Quoting jaydog:
Quoting DenisVial:
Quoting A Train:
Quoting Zira1:
Anaheim has scouts at tonight's game and Ottawa has scouts at Anaheim's game in Chi. Good time to start rumors or good guesses.


I fear Zibanejad is being showcased. He was never really their guy in that draft and his name popped up in trade rumours last year.


I was thinking the same thing, as otherwise wouldn't DaCosta who is more experienced be on one of the top two lines?


i think trading zibby will come back to haunt us. Him, Noesen and Ceci are our true blue chip prospects. The rest are all hopefuls or third liners (Silf may be a fringe blue-chipper)


i think Anaheim is after Gonchar - they don't have any big name offensive d-man. Fowler is still too young. other than that there is Sbisa, Mara and Lydman. Lydman is more of a steady d-man but good at it.
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0 #115 Zaktama 2013-02-12 20:53
The powerplay is pathetic. Greening and Michalek are useless without Spezza. Dacosta and Daugavins the only ones working out there. Of course Andy is awesome as usual.
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-2 #116 DrSens 2013-02-12 20:54
SOMETHING HAPPENED TO LEHNER!!! LAWSON IS IN!!!
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0 #117 Zaktama 2013-02-12 20:55
Alfie cant buy one.
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0 #118 Zaktama 2013-02-12 20:56
0 for 5 on the PP. Not good.
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0 #119 DrSens 2013-02-12 20:57
if this continues for Alfie for the season I could seem retiring. If he keeps scoring hes going to play forever. It's all about having fun for him
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0 #120 DrSens 2013-02-12 20:58
omgggg an open net!!!!! nothing. just zilch
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-1 #121 TheBoss 2013-02-12 20:59
The refs were very generous tonight in handing us a couple PP... and we couldnt take advantage of ANY of them.

It doesn't matter if the Sabres are the team with most goals against if we can't even get ONE goal.

I have a feeling that Murray will be making a trade very very soon.
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0 #122 KT7 2013-02-12 21:00
Woot, apprently as per Potvin, gerber's back in town .
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0 #123 hq8 2013-02-12 21:00
Quoting DrSens:
SOMETHING HAPPENED TO LEHNER!!! LAWSON IS IN!!!


nothing happened to him
lawson started game, some pens forward adam payerl collided with him. lawson went off and is now back in.
payerl got game misconduct for charging lawson. kostopoulos for pens also got game misconduct for spearing someone.
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0 #124 DenisVial 2013-02-12 21:00
Quoting DrSens:
SOMETHING HAPPENED TO LEHNER!!! LAWSON IS IN!!!



Errrr....no. Lawson started and was run hard. Dude got a game misconduct for running Lawson over. Lehner came on in relief.
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+1 #125 Zaktama 2013-02-12 21:00
King Karl!!!!!
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+1 #126 IrishCanadian 2013-02-12 21:00
Erik fucking Karlsson
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-1 #127 DrSens 2013-02-12 21:00
Quoting TheBoss:
The refs were very generous tonight in handing us a couple PP... and we couldnt take advantage of ANY of them.

It doesn't matter if the Sabres are the team with most goals against if we can't even get ONE goal.

I have a feeling that Murray will be making a trade very very soon.


Hopefully Murray calls Murray and they get a deal going for a kid named Bobby or another named Corry
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+6 #128 Guillaume 2013-02-12 21:01
Nice pass by Michalek. Suck on that ZipFapCrap
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0 #129 DrSens 2013-02-12 21:01
Quoting DenisVial:
Quoting DrSens:
SOMETHING HAPPENED TO LEHNER!!! LAWSON IS IN!!!



Errrr....no. Lawson started and was run hard. Dude got a game misconduct for running Lawson over. Lehner came on in relief.


Thank the little baby jesus I read the scoresheet and I shat myself a little bit
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+2 #130 Zaktama 2013-02-12 21:02
Wow Milo actually made a play. Needs to make more of those before we call the dogs off.
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+5 #131 hq8 2013-02-12 21:03
sens firsty shorty of the year....AWESOME E
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+2 #132 SensFanInMTL 2013-02-12 21:04
I know it's early by at least half a decade but if Karlsson gets a couple of Cups in his career, I think he can draw comparisons to Lidstrom. Unreal this kid. You can throw Bogosian's name out there and Seabrook and Keith and Doughty, but Karlsson is special, in almost every way.
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+2 #133 Guillaume 2013-02-12 21:06
Attaboy Condra
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+3 #134 DenisVial 2013-02-12 21:06
Anacondra!
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0 #135 Zaktama 2013-02-12 21:06
Wow old iron hands gets one.
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0 #136 SensFanInMTL 2013-02-12 21:06
Give us Cup!! You hear me!? Give us CUUUUUP!
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0 #137 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2013-02-12 21:07
Condra's been knocking on the door for weeks. Finally.
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+15 #138 Clone Ranger 2013-02-12 21:07
Working on my cloning machine

Karlsson -Karlsson - Karlsson
Karlsson -Karlsson - Karlsson
Karlsson -Karlsson - Karlsson
Karlsson -Karlsson - Karlsson

Karlsson - Orr
Karlsson - Karlsson
Karlsson - Karlsson

Anderson
Karlsson
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-1 #139 jaydog 2013-02-12 21:08
any big name from ANA, either Ryan or the two big guns is going to cost big. the only way Murray trades for Perry is if he signs and I doubt he will sign here. I doubt Getzlaf leaves Cali

As for Ryan, I doubt he wants a career outside of the U.S.

For Perry- its going to cost Silf or Zibby or Noesen, Ceci or Wier and one of our grinders (Smith, Obrien, Greening or Condra) and maybe more. Better make sure Perry is the piece we think we need (and I think he is, if he is happy and wants to be here)

It doesn't matter if the Sabres are the team with most goals against if we can't even get ONE goal.

I have a feeling that Murray will be making a trade very very soon.

Hopefully Murray calls Murray and they get a deal going for a kid named Bobby or another named Corry
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0 #140 hq8 2013-02-12 21:09
btw on the topic of bingo, the b-sens have owned the AHL-pens this year.
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0 #141 Sandy 2013-02-12 21:09
Quoting DrSens:
SOMETHING HAPPENED TO LEHNER!!! LAWSON IS IN!!!


You have that backwards... Something happened to Lawson -- Lehner in...
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+1 #142 TheBoss 2013-02-12 21:11
Quoting SensFanInMTL:
I know it's early by at least half a decade but if Karlsson gets a couple of Cups in his career, I think he can draw comparisons to Lidstrom. Unreal this kid. You can throw Bogosian's name out there and Seabrook and Keith and Doughty, but Karlsson is special, in almost every way.


I agree... kind of.

Karl will be viewed as a phenomenal generational talent, so long as he wins a few Cups or Norris trophies. Heck, even a gold medal at the Olympics would be great. I do think he's hungry enough to carry this team to a Cup... I just have a feeling that his time is now, and he knows it. Winning the Norris is nothing for this kid. He wants to win the Cup, the Olympic Gold, the World Championships, everything. And the scary thing is, he could probably finish his career with all that...

However, as a Canadian kid, I think Doughty is a pretty special player. Stanley Cup and Olympic Gold Medal. and he just turned 23.
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+1 #143 hq8 2013-02-12 21:12
btw.....good change up by maclean switching condra for greening - INSTANT RESULTS.

Greening honestly needs to start playing like a top 6 player when he is placed there. i think he plays like a 3rd or 4th liner even when put in top 6
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+2 #144 SensFanInMTL 2013-02-12 21:14
Quoting jaydog:
any big name from ANA, either Ryan or the two big guns is going to cost big. the only way Murray trades for Perry is if he signs and I doubt he will sign here. I doubt Getzlaf leaves Cali
for Perry- its going to cost Silf or Zibby or Noesen, Ceci or Wier and one of our grinders (Smith, Obrien, Greening or Condra) and maybe more. Better make sure Perry is the piece we think we need (and I think he is, if he is happy and wants to be here)

It doesn't matter if the Sabres are the team with most goals against if we can't even get ONE goal.


Again, why are we gonna use Noesen, Ceci and Smith or any other prospects to get Perry in which he will be unrestricted at the end of the year? Phuck, we can have all those guys plus Perry, assuming he would agree to terms to want to play here.
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+3 #145 hq8 2013-02-12 21:17
andddd only on a sens fan forum will you find fans still pining for crazy whacky trades when the team is getting back in its groove leading 2-0 at the end of 2nd period.
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0 #146 karlssens 2013-02-12 21:23
Greening has been a whole lot of useless all year unfortunately.. But Michalek looks good so far this game!

IMO Doughty is amazing, but we're talking about Karlsson here..
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+4 #147 Clone Ranger 2013-02-12 21:24
Erik Condra is starting to remind me more and more of Chris Kelly
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-1 #148 jaydog 2013-02-12 21:24
Quoting hq8:
andddd only on a sens fan forum will you find fans still pining for crazy whacky trades when the team is getting back in its groove leading 2-0 at the end of 2nd period.


alot has to happen for this team to become a contender, the cupboard is full but something has to be done to take the team to the next level. We dont have a "perry and getzlaf" or a "crosby and malkin" or a "kopitar, doughty, richards and carter" you either draft two mega stars or trade for them!

as it stands now, we will be respectable bordering on good for 5 years but that's it
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+1 #149 karlssens 2013-02-12 21:25
Quoting hq8:
andddd only on a sens fan forum will you find fans still pining for crazy whacky trades when the team is getting back in its groove leading 2-0 at the end of 2nd period.

They haven't exactly been playing great so far man.. If it wasn't for Andy we could have been in a hole. For a team in a rebuild though, very happy with them.
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0 #150 karlssens 2013-02-12 21:26
Quoting jaydog:
Quoting hq8:
andddd only on a sens fan forum will you find fans still pining for crazy whacky trades when the team is getting back in its groove leading 2-0 at the end of 2nd period.


alot has to happen for this team to become a contender, the cupboard is full but something has to be done to take the team to the next level. We dont have a "perry and getzlaf" or a "crosby and malkin" or a "kopitar, doughty, richards and carter" you either draft two mega stars or trade for them!

as it stands now, we will be respectable bordering on good for 5 years but that's it

Spezza and Michalek? :P
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0 #151 nicholas19 2013-02-12 21:27
How about no trades everybody? i like that idea!
Staying the course with this roster will pan out (although Zack Smith is pretty frusterating to watch)
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0 #152 hq8 2013-02-12 21:34
i cant quote all the guys who countered my trade comment due to the 1k limit - but if thats the view you guys take that we won't be anything with what we have on regulars and prospects then you guys will never be satisfied because when you sign those mega stars you end up reducing the room in terms of salary of the other pieces that make a full team. look at the last two cup winners and you will see that yea they have really really good players but noone like a crosby or malkin.
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+2 #153 hq8 2013-02-12 21:35
Gryba 10 minute misconduct and Kramer 5 minutes for fighting in bingo.
Kramer already making his presence felt in bingo. this kid is going to make the sens a whole lotta nasty when he finally comes up.
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0 #154 Sandy 2013-02-12 21:38
The B-Sens & WBS must be pretty rough.

3 game misconducts have been handed out to WBS players. One for running Lawson, one for spearing and the last one for abuse of officials...

44 penalty minutes for Bingo... 96 penalty minutes for WBS.

Have a question...

44 min/11 inf
96 min/18 inf

What does the 'inf' stand for?
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0 #155 Mr Hockey 2013-02-12 21:43
Quoting Sandy:
The B-Sens & WBS must be pretty rough.

3 game misconducts have been handed out to WBS players. One for running Lawson, one for spearing and the last one for abuse of officials...

44 penalty minutes for Bingo... 96 penalty minutes for WBS.

Have a question...

44 min/11 inf
96 min/18 inf

What does the 'inf' stand for?


I believe it's infractions. ex 11 penalties totalling 44 min.
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+2 #156 SensFanInMTL 2013-02-12 21:44
Anderson still a fuckin wall! Shitty calls by those asshole refs. What's the problem? Didn't like the crowd getting on your case because you fell?
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0 #157 SensFanInMTL 2013-02-12 21:51
Man, how many powerplays are we at tonight?
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0 #158 Sandy 2013-02-12 22:02
Quoting Mr Hockey:
Quoting Sandy:
The B-Sens & WBS must be pretty rough.

3 game misconducts have been handed out to WBS players. One for running Lawson, one for spearing and the last one for abuse of officials...

44 penalty minutes for Bingo... 96 penalty minutes for WBS.

Have a question...

44 min/11 inf
96 min/18 inf

What does the 'inf' stand for?


I believe it's infractions. ex 11 penalties totalling 44 min.



Makes sense.. thanks..
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+3 #159 hq8 2013-02-12 22:05
man did the officials give ottawa the PP lottery today or what
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-2 #160 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2013-02-12 22:06
Our powerplay honestly sucks so much.

Anyways a win is a win.

Bring on dem pens!
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+2 #161 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-12 22:06
Karlsson makes me smile haha what a player
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+4 #162 SensFanInMTL 2013-02-12 22:07
Man how much does Vanek not like playing against us?
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0 #163 Sicilian 2013-02-12 22:07
What??? Me worry? Nah. Never :)
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+1 #164 hq8 2013-02-12 22:08
sens win
and man......the bruins are something
trailed all game long and boom in 10 minutes 3 goals to even up.
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+16 #165 Floridasensfan 2013-02-12 22:13
Time for Karlsson or Anderson chants if you ask me.
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+2 #166 sben 2013-02-12 22:23
boston loses
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+1 #167 SensFanInMTL 2013-02-12 22:55
Team 1200 as well are reporting Sens' scouts in Anaheim as well as Ducks scouts in Ottawa and the old Perry on Spezza's wing conversation is becoming more apparent. Man I don't know what I'd do if this comes into play.


For the record, about 95% of the rumors and chatter all take place here on SensChirp before anyone else gets the scoop. Respect.

The only thing I dislike about all this chatter about Perry is that eventually the media and everyone else will make a big thing about how he is set to become a UFA and that Murray drafted him, etc. and will turn off any rumors of Perry wanting to sign here. The less coverage about this will prosper the chances of even trying to sign Perry.

Lundin won't mind changing his number, will he!!?
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+1 #168 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2013-02-12 22:56
If we get Perry somehow I will faint.

I just hope it's not at the expense of Silfverberg/Zib anjead.
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0 #169 Senzdefenz 2013-02-12 22:58
Quoting hq8:
Gryba 10 minute misconduct and Kramer 5 minutes for fighting in bingo.
Kramer already making his presence felt in bingo. this kid is going to make the sens a whole lotta nasty when he finally comes up.


I like his grit, HOWEVER, he does have a long ways to go in becoming a player that would benefit an NHL team. He is rough around the edges and will need to improve his overall game.
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-7 #170 CJM 2013-02-12 22:58
I say make the move for ROR. It still fits in with the young team, and he's a hell of a player that probably doesn't fit in Colorado anymore.

Zibanejad + Benoit for ROR should get it done...give him the contract and money he's asking for. This team would see a HUGE boost.

Michalek - Spezza - Turris
Silfverberg - O'Reilly - Alfredsson

I like that top 6 for the playoffs.
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-2 #171 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2013-02-12 22:59
Quoting CJM:
I say make the move for ROR. It still fits in with the young team, and he's a hell of a player that probably doesn't fit in Colorado anymore.

Zibanejad + Benoit for ROR should get it done...give him the contract and money he's asking for. This team would see a HUGE boost.

Michalek - Spezza - Turris
Silfverberg - O'Reilly - Alfredsson

I like that top 6 for the playoffs.


I really wish people would stop doing this.
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0 #172 AllStarAlfie 2013-02-12 23:00
It's so hard to gauge Perry's trade value because it is obviously high, but since he is a UFA this year, could he be had for less?
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+2 #173 SensChirp 2013-02-12 23:07
Quoting SensFanInMTL:
Team 1200 as well are reporting Sens' scouts in Anaheim as well as Ducks scouts in Ottawa and the old Perry on Spezza's wing conversation is becoming more apparent. Man I don't know what I'd do if this comes into play.


For the record, about 95% of the rumors and chatter all take place here on SensChirp before anyone else gets the scoop. Respect.


http://www.senschirp.ca/blog/item/895-latest-from-the-rumour-mill

;)
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+3 #174 SensFanInMTL 2013-02-12 23:09
Jesus, Team 1200 is STILL discussing about Perry.

On a sidenote, congratulations to Lundin and his wife who now have Canadian relatives.
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0 #175 SensChirp 2013-02-12 23:18
For what it is worth...

@SunGarrioch

Ducks scouts weren't here because there r discussions between Sens and ANA. Bob Murray intends to try to keep Corey Perry and Ryan Getzlaf.
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-1 #176 SensFanInMTL 2013-02-12 23:22
Quoting SensChirp:
For what it is worth...

@SunGarrioch

Ducks scouts weren't here because there r discussions between Sens and ANA. Bob Murray intends to try to keep Corey Perry and Ryan Getzlaf.

LMAO, "try to keep." He can all he wants. At the end of the day, we can bet Murray will change religions to try and obtain the services of the Ducks duo.

BTW, wtf is Garrioch talking about? They weren't there because there are discussions between the 2 teams. Well then why the phuck are they there then?
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+1 #177 SensChirp 2013-02-12 23:50
Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but there were also Senators scouts in Chicago tonight to watch Ducks/Hawks.
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0 #178 hq8 2013-02-13 00:09
i think anaheim is looking for D-help and i dunno if as a fan i would like the sens to ship any of their tradeable D (PW46, Borocop, Gryba etc.) outside of Gonchar and Lundin. Fowler is out so their current D is:
Souray, Sbisa, Lovejoy, Beauchemin, Lydman and Bryan Allen with Paul Mara as 7th. they got lovejoy recently from the pens for a 5th rounder. I think they are looking at Gonchar.
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0 #179 hq8 2013-02-13 00:14
also howson's firing kills any notion of a deal with CBJ
therefore sens scouts are looking at players from SJS, ANA and Chicago.
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+3 #180 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-13 00:35
Anyone know why Lehner played 54:18 and Lawson played the last few mins in his absence? I hope he didn't get hurt, cause if that's the case, lay the Bishop rumours to rest.

And Gryba is a friggen +28? Come on, someone take notice.

BigRig had a great game tonight, watching him skate I would have swore he was in his 20's.

And what can I say about Anderson, guy is on a mission. Please don't come back to earth anytime soon. You are so ON!!
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+1 #181 hq8 2013-02-13 00:40
Quoting MethotToMyMadness:
Anyone know why Lehner played 54:18 and Lawson played the last few mins in his absence? I hope he didn't get hurt, cause if that's the case, lay the Bishop rumours to rest.

And Gryba is a friggen +28? Come on, someone take notice.

BigRig had a great game tonight, watching him skate I would have swore he was in his 20's.

And what can I say about Anderson, guy is on a mission. Please don't come back to earth anytime soon. You are so ON!!

lawson got crashed into early in the first. The Lehner filled in for him the rest of the game.
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+5 #182 T K 2013-02-13 00:49
Aaaah, a nice Sens win tonight. One bright shining light in an otherwise shitty day.
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0 #183 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-13 07:56
Quoting hq8:
Quoting MethotToMyMadness:
Anyone know why Lehner played 54:18 and Lawson played the last few mins in his absence? I hope he didn't get hurt, cause if that's the case, lay the Bishop rumours to rest.

And Gryba is a friggen +28? Come on, someone take notice.

BigRig had a great game tonight, watching him skate I would have swore he was in his 20's.

And what can I say about Anderson, guy is on a mission. Please don't come back to earth anytime soon. You are so ON!!

lawson got crashed into early in the first. The Lehner filled in for him the rest of the game.


Oh really, not happy Lawson went down, but I am happy Lehner is ok.
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+4 #184 No65* 2013-02-13 08:44
Karlsson = Norris
Anderson = Vezina

All we need to get on a long winning streak is to get some rebound luck as Anderson and Karlsson are for real.

What a bomb from Zibby when he hit the post last night on a one timer. This kid will be good for us, hope Murray don't trade him. You can't trow away our future for a UFA to be player. Murray is smarter than that.
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+4 #185 x N!C x 2013-02-13 08:45
I agree! Phillips looked rejuvinated last night for sure. Was on the edge of my seat when he was leading the rush during that powerplay. No goal but a hell of a lot of hustle!

Also, I understand moving Gonchar to Anaheim to bring insome scoring, but so far this year i would actually be pretty sad to see the Gonch leave. Againt popular belief, I have really been liking his game.

Would really love to see him and Karlsson start clicking on the PP. That would be deadly!

Oh ... and eff you Pens, let's do THIS!

GO SENS GO
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-1 #186 Senzdefenzfrenz 2013-02-13 10:20
[quote name="hq8"]i think anaheim is looking for D-help and i dunno if as a fan i would like the sens to ship any of their tradeable D (PW46, Borocop, Gryba etc.) outside of Gonchar and Lundin.

I would love to see Gryba get traded. He has put in his time and hasn't got a shot. I may be of the minority but I watch Gryba a lot and he is not slow. Open ice hit last night left the players horizontal. Friggn everybody on the other team wanted to kill him. He just chirped at them and they speared him(5 and a game)(check from behind 2 min etc). My main criticism is that he plays the safe game and doesn't take risks which sometimes leaves his gaps too open. Boro played a tighter game but his partner has to often cover for him. Boro +4 Gryba +3.
I will bet money that Gryba ,next year, gets plucked of waivers when he is sent down from the training camp(which he obviously will).
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