Wednesday, 06 February 2013 08:43

Alfie, Karlsson Lead the Charge vs. Buffalo

Coming into last night’s contest, the Ottawa Senators were struggling to find goals without their number one centre.

That wasn’t a problem on Tuesday night though as the Sens got goals from Erik Karlsson, Chris Phillips, Daniel Alfredsson and the eventual game winner from Chris Neil as Ottawa held on for a huge 4-3 win over the visiting Buffalo Sabres.

While Head Coach Paul MacLean can’t be happy about the way his team attempted to sit on a 4-1 lead, he’ll be thrilled to come away with the two points.  The Senators stormed out to a three goal lead primarily thanks to an aggressive fore check that gave the Sabres fits and a committed effort to getting to the net.

Having Jhonas Enroth in the Sabres net certainly helped too.

Plenty to like in this game if you’re a Sens fan.  First off- the awakening of Peter Regin.  Regin has been quiet early in this shortened season but seemed rejuvenated playing on a line with Chris Neil and Colin Greening.  It was a won draw by Regin that led to the Phillips marker and a great bit of hustle by the Dane that led to Neil’s second period goal.  Safe to say we’ll see MacLean go back to that trio tomorrow night.

Really liked the game of the Captain as well.  Daniel Alfredsson seemed to be all over the ice last night, and had some chemistry going with Zibanejad and Turris in what amounted to the team’s first line.  Alfie logged 19:01 in ice time and was a force every time he was on the ice.  His first period goal was his second of the season.

And lastly, Erik freaking Karlsson. 

Praise for Karlsson is pretty standard around the league right now but last night in particular, I found myself really appreciating how lucky we are to have him on this team.  Karlsson opened the scoring with his 4th of the season, effortlessly walking the line on the power play, head up, and finding an opening through traffic.  All night long, Karlsson was a one man break out, picking apart the Sabres forecheck either with his foot speed or a perfectly placed outlet pass.  This guy is in complete control of the pace of the game every time he is on the ice.  It really is something to watch.

Now obviously there are concerns about overusing him early in the season (he played 31:26 last night) but you can see why MacLean has trouble not sending him over the boards.  He never seems tired and always has that extra boost when he needs it.

Long term that ice time will need to be addressed but last night, as a paying fan, I couldn’t get enough.

The Senators are back on the ice for practice at noon today.  Should have updates on the injured Sens- Gonchar, Latendresse and Lundin- at that time.

Back with more in a bit.

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+5 #1 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 09:04
Karlsson! Karlsson!
Varldens Basta Karlsson!

Does anyone believe Karlsson could potentially win the Norris and the Hart trophy this year?

Who was the last defenseman to do such a thing? Orr?
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-7 #2 Dirk Diggler 2013-02-06 09:06
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Karlsson! Karlsson!
Varldens Basta Karlsson!

Does anyone believe Karlsson could potentially win the Norris and the Hart trophy this year?

Who was the last defenseman to do such a thing? Orr?



The way Marty StLouis is playing I think he may get the Hart... But, ya never know.
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+1 #3 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 09:11
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Karlsson! Karlsson!
Varldens Basta Karlsson!

Does anyone believe Karlsson could potentially win the Norris and the Hart trophy this year?

Who was the last defenseman to do such a thing? Orr?


Checked wikidpedia Chris Pronger got both awards in 99-2000 with St.Louis.
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+8 #4 hq8 2013-02-06 09:11
norris probably - he is in dominating control on the game and right now, noone has an answer to counter him. he can pretty much make whatever play he likes on the ice.

Hart - maybe.

i know its a little early to say this, but Karlsson will make the league forget Lidstrom - no offense to Lidstrom because he was the greatest defenseman in the league in the past two decades.
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+25 #5 Hax 2013-02-06 09:19
Dear God, Budda, Tom Cruise - whatever:

Thank you for putting me on Earth at a time when I can watch Erik Karlsson play hockey.
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+7 #6 Andrews Theory 2013-02-06 09:22
It definitely helped that Regin wasn't facing top level talent on the third line.

I for one don't mind Smith playing up on the second line as a stop gap. His offensive ceiling is limited but he's certainly capable of generating some offense (he needs to shoot the puck a bit sooner than he has been this year) he's physically hard to play against and he's defensively capable of shutting down the opposition.

Michalek seems to be suffering from a confidence thing, he just needs to be more decisive, drive the net and find a way to generate shots. There is no way Neil should have more shots at this point than him.

Really liked the two swede rookies last night, Silfverberg's shot totals are increasing every game and it seems like every time he does shoot, he expects to score! Love that...

I thought it would be Silf that rejuvenated Alfie this year but looks like it may in fact be Zibby.

thanks for the two points Bufalo...
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+3 #7 Merchaholic 2013-02-06 09:22
How's Silfverberg's hand?
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+10 #8 SensChirp 2013-02-06 09:23
Quoting BMKing:
You guys seem to forget about Alex Pietriangelo, having a great year, so far Karlsson in prop 3-4 in D at the moment. But when everything will be said and done he def will be top 2 D in the league.

I see Pietriangelo winning the Norris vs Karlsson just cause of his size

This will be the guy they use as his competition but I really don't think it's close right now.

He is a great defenceman but doesn't control the game the way EK can right now. Last year's knock on Karlsson was a lack of PK time, he's doing that now too this year.
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+4 #9 SensChirp 2013-02-06 09:23
Quoting Merchaholic:
How's Silfverberg's hand?

MacLean said he's fine. We'll see if he practices today.
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+2 #10 spezzerman 2013-02-06 09:24
Regin has been dynamite on the faceoffs the past few games. Nice to see him get a couple points on hard earned plays. Hopefully that gets his confidence back up and he can do that more often.
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+2 #11 Hax 2013-02-06 09:37
Last night was a good example of all the positives that come from a key player being injured. Extra effort from everyone and key guys contributing more. Smith and Regin looked like different players last night - always looking to distribute the puck and be leaders out there.

Having said that, Buffalo played pretty bad but hopefully we build on last night so we can keep racking up points.

I was frustrated with Alfie a couple of times where he passed instead of shot - but that could just be him making an effort to get other guys going (and is a nit-pick anyway). He did look more like his old self though - more jump and looked a little pissed off most of the game.

I'm sure when Gonchar is back and then when Lundin slots in Karlsson's minutes will drop down a bit - though he can handle the 30 minutes games easily.
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+6 #12 thepez 2013-02-06 09:40
Quoting Andrews Theory:
It definitely helped that Regin wasn't facing top level talent on the third line.


Maybe we have all over estimated Regin's potential. Seems that every time he has had an opportunity to play as a top 6 forward, he has had a hard time. When he is inserted as a 3rd line centre he plays his best hockey. When Spezza returns to the lineup, would not be surprised to see Regin stay as the 3rd line centre and Smith be moved to the wing.

Have been impressed and surprised with Benoit. Played 19 minutes last night and was on in the final minutes, making a key block. Keep hearing from the experts about his size and how you can't have a guy like him to be successful, but for now he is playing like a top 4, killing penalties and playing on the pp.
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+1 #13 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-06 09:41
Everyone and I mean EVERYONE seems to believe Karlsson is the runaway favourite for the Norris so far. From fans all over the league, media, analysts, everyone knows Karlsson is King.

I've been even more impressed this year with his play. Last year he was great, but he's somehow reached an even higher level this year.

I said this last week or the week before, by the end of the year people won't be talking about whether or not he is the best defenceman in the world, they'll be talking about whether or not he's the best player in the world. I know it sounds like a homer statement but right now I definitely believe he's a top 5 player in the game today.

The question should really be who is the 2nd best defenceman in the NHL, Karlsson is the best by a mile. I've had the chance to watch 4 or 5 Blues games this year and Pietrangelo is great, but he's no Karlsson.
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+17 #14 chadillac 2013-02-06 09:48
Best stat I heard last night was that Karlsson was still leading Finnish D scoring by 11 points.
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+4 #15 Boivo 2013-02-06 09:48
I think King Karl is the best player in the league right now. Tell me who else dictates the play, controls everyone on the ice and sees the game like he does. Crosby...nope, Malkin...nope. King Karl is starting to make a huge name for himself and bringing back the D play of old. (potvin, orr) I think regin's confidence is slowly building and he will perform like we have always wanted him to. The future of this team is so freakin bright it is ridiculous. GO SENS GO
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+8 #16 Back checker 2013-02-06 09:54
It is about time Benoit got his due, the guy has been incredible and this opportunity is long over due. I think he is 14th in the league in blocked shots, has made numerous key defensive plays, makes a great first pass and can join the rush to create offence (anyone see him walk around myers last night?). He can play in all situations. People talk about his size (same as Lundin by the way but benoit's game is more complete), and he probably has 20 pounds on Karlson and he seems to be doing ok LOL. He needs to stay up,he brings too much to the table, not to mention he wins where ever he goes (memorial cup, 2 calder cups, spengler cup.....and coincidentally he was the leading D scorer in all of those). Try to send him down and he will be picked up off waivers for sure.
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+4 #17 thepez 2013-02-06 09:54
Could not help but laugh out loud last night thinking of what coach Mac said about what Charlie Huddy said to him when Mac played aginst Paul Coffey. That basically don't even bother going after a puck that Coffey is trying to get. Same thing goes for Karlsson. Last night I must have counted at least ten times where he took the puck and had Sabres basically saying to hell with this and they went to their bench for a change instead of chasing him.

Even when he gets out of position becuase of his speed he gets back so fast. Funniest sight of the night was coach Mac talking to EK65 and EK65 laughing like a 12 year old boy after the conversation that went something like, coach don't worry everything is under control.
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-7 #18 The Apostle 2013-02-06 09:56
I have to admit that Michalek's performances this year make it difficult to defend him to some of the more annoying posters who criticise him.
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+7 #19 Boivo 2013-02-06 10:00
Why would you bring that up and stir his ass up again. Players go through slumps its just the nature of the game. Michalek played a great game last night IMO. Saved a possible goal to at one point. He just needs to simplify his game a little more and get pucks to the net and drive the net, where he can pot his dirty goals and get rolling.
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+4 #20 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-06 10:00
I agree on Benoit. I'll be the first to admit I wasn't all that impressed with him at first, but man he looks like he's been playing in this league for years. I think when Lundin is healthy, Benoit stays for sure (if they send him down he will get picked up off waivers), and I think Wiercioch will stick around as well.

Boro just seems like the odd man out right now.
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+4 #21 NadislavLagy 2013-02-06 10:03
Was at the game last night, now makes it 3 home games I have been too (I think 3 in a row - Washington, Montreal, and Buffalo) that the Sens have all won.

Benoit's rush where he went almost end to end was very impressive. Too bad he didn't finish but he got it on net and was able to just skate right through and in.
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+3 #22 A Train 2013-02-06 10:07
Quoting thepez:
Funniest sight of the night was coach Mac talking to EK65 and EK65 laughing like a 12 year old boy after the conversation that went something like, coach don't worry everything is under control.


This. Karlsson's attitude is part of what makes him such a joy to watch. He knows how good he is and is perfectly comfortable with his own talent.

That is such a key part of being an elite performer -- in anything.
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+11 #23 SensChirp 2013-02-06 10:08
Check that- Mike Lundin will skate with the team at noon today. A great sign.
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+4 #24 Back checker 2013-02-06 10:08
Benoit kind of reminds me of Rafalski a bit, had to bounce around in Europe for awhile because he was labelled "under sized" but when they finally gave him the opportunity he thrived and had a good career. If you haven't noticed, Benoit does not play undersized, he is first on puck at every opportunity (wire certainly isn't and he has size) blocks shots etc. I think 15 games down the road you will see he brings a lot more to the table than Lundin. My bet is that someone gives Benoit a one way deal next year and he goes on to have a good career.
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+2 #25 No65* 2013-02-06 10:11
Buffalo is the perfect team for Regin to rise. They are a soft team to play against. Let's see how he does in the next 5 games to conclude he is playing like a top 6 forward. I must admit that pass to Neiler was a beauty.

We have to remember we have many players still adjusting to NHL tempo and this team can only get better. Regin played less than 30 games in the last 2 seasons and we have Silfverberg, Zbad, Benoit, Weircoch, Borocop.

And with King Karlsson, anything is possible.
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0 #26 The Apostle 2013-02-06 10:12
Once Lundin is ready, Boro gets sent down and we run with 7 for the rest of the year.
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+1 #27 Hax 2013-02-06 10:19
I'm fine with Boro going back to Bingo. Love the guy and expect him to be in the mix next year but more time in Bingo won't hurt him at all.

Benoit deserves to stay up and I think Wiercioch's development is better served by time with the big club at this point.

Assuming Lundin and Gonchar aren't back next year this group will be solid going into the season (and of course there's always the chance Murray adds someone):

Methot Karlsson
Cowen Wiercioch
Benoit Phillips
Borowiecki

Maybe Ceci even cracks that group though I suspect he might need a year in Bingo.
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+1 #28 A Train 2013-02-06 10:20
Quoting Back checker:
Benoit kind of reminds me of Rafalski a bit, had to bounce around in Europe for awhile because he was labelled "under sized" but when they finally gave him the opportunity he thrived and had a good career. If you haven't noticed, Benoit does not play undersized, he is first on puck at every opportunity (wire certainly isn't and he has size) blocks shots etc. I think 15 games down the road you will see he brings a lot more to the table than Lundin. My bet is that someone gives Benoit a one way deal next year and he goes on to have a good career.


I remember when we were hoping Karlsson would rise to the level of Rafalski. So far so good on that one I'd say! Now...if he can just hoist the Cup a few times.
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+4 #29 St Nick 2013-02-06 10:25
Should it surprise us that whatever line Colin Greening seems to play on does very well in a game. Spezza has given him credit for making space for him on his line, he was part of the energy line earlier that Maclean put together that everyone loved & now he is on a line that got Regin out of his funk.

The same can be said for Neil & Z. Smith, these are the heart & soul players that get this team going. It was after a fight that Neil got his team going & came back to win a game earlier this yr. Everyone likes the star players & are quick to jump on the other guys when things aren't going well but coaches love these kinds of players & deservedly so.
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+8 #30 SensChirp 2013-02-06 10:28
This is pretty cool. Nice to be included in this list.

http://senators.nhl.com/club/blogpost.htm?id=13737
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+9 #31 Boivo 2013-02-06 10:30
Anyone else love the play of Neiler this year. I mean he is pretty solid and consistent each year. But he seems to be doing everything he can to chip in here with our sens down 1C. Just one of those under the radar guys that provides such confidence and guidance to the younger players.
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+3 #32 SensChirp 2013-02-06 10:37
Looking for your input...

Now that we have the general layout figured out, we're looking into some new features and additions for the site.

What would you like to see added? Looking for things that would make for a more enjoyable reader experience and build on the excellent community we have here. Obviously not everything is possible but just hoping for some suggestions we can explore.

Annnnd GO!
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+6 #33 The Apostle 2013-02-06 10:37
Good article by Scanlan. Karlsson is dripping with confidence but there doesn't appear to be an ounce of arrogance visible with the guy, he seems likeable and well liked, joking with other players and MacLean on the bench.

The guys is a bone fide superstar who will remain slightly under the radar because all of his talking is done on the ice.
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+4 #34 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 10:39
Glad to see there haven't been anymore hating on Chris Phillips lately... I think he has also been one of our best dmen all season so far and the most consistent. Also people always say he's too slow, I just don't see that how often do you see a skater burn by Phillips like Benoit did to Myers last night... I think he is one of the best shutdown guys in the league. I doubt he is the slowest player on the team.
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+4 #35 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 10:44
Quoting SensChirp:
Looking for your input...

Now that we have the general layout figured out, we're looking into some new features and additions for the site.

What would you like to see added? Looking for things that would make for a more enjoyable reader experience and build on the excellent community we have here. Obviously not everything is possible but just hoping for some suggestions we can explore.

Annnnd GO!



The jump to last comment link that we had for a little while, is it coming back? Found it a very convenient little addition.
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+7 #36 DenisVial 2013-02-06 10:46
Quoting SensChirp:
Looking for your input...

Now that we have the general layout figured out, we're looking into some new features and additions for the site.

What would you like to see added? Looking for things that would make for a more enjoyable reader experience and build on the excellent community we have here. Obviously not everything is possible but just hoping for some suggestions we can explore.

Annnnd GO!


Please bring back the jump to last option for the comment section.
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+4 #37 The Apostle 2013-02-06 10:49
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Glad to see there haven't been anymore hating on Chris Phillips lately...



I'm still not a fan of the 3rd year on his new contract and I was absolutely one of those ragging on his play the past three years or so when I believe he wasn't consistent enough and was making far too many errors in his own zone.

But so far this year (once the rust was shaken off) he's been exactly what we need from him. I think the reduced minutes have helped him and I guarantee that WireCock, Boro and any other young blueliner will sing his praises about how he helps them.

Not sure being a mentor is worth 3 million a year but having somebody other than Methot who you know is going to be reliable and you can count on in all situations certainly is.
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+6 #38 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 10:50
@Senschirp, Also really like the twitter box. Would it be possible to have the box move with the screen, so when you scroll down the comments the box stays with you on the right side of the site. That way people wont have to go all the way back to the top to check the twitter box.
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+1 #39 Alcatraz 2013-02-06 10:53
Jump to last like people said (helps when viewing on mobile sites)

also, would love a post it board, where fans can post lines or predictions, and you just house those comments there. Only a few per poster etc. that way when it materializes I can just go to the post it board to find when I said it to prove someone wrong

For example, earlier in the year I said Neil+Regin have always played well together which is why I thought Regin should be our 3rd line Centre over Smith (I had said smith 4th line, but will admit he looks ok on 2nd for now)

Anyways just an idea
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+5 #40 Hax 2013-02-06 10:56
Quoting SensChirp:
Annnnd GO!


I pretty much never come here during games but I think a good addition would be to have a real-time chat during games instead of people just posting away. Keeps it segregated to a degree. Though moderating the chat might prove to be a impossible (i.e. keeping the usual losers from taking it over with comments meant to piss real fans off).
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+3 #41 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 10:57
On a lighter note, anyone see TSN SportCentre Top Ten this morning? :P
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+3 #42 Sensnation 2013-02-06 10:58
Wow what a game! Every time the Sens have excuses they can use, they just show up with a complete team effort.

I agree with all of you about how special Karlsson is and how awesome it is to watch him take apart the other team as he comes through the neutral zone.

I'd also like to give big praise to the play of Wiercioch and Benoit. These two have really elevated their game at the NHL level and I hope both can stay around for the rest of the season. I do enjoy them more when they are split up as oppose to playing together, but either way both of these guys give their all to make plays both offensively and defensively. Very pleased to say the least!

GO SENS GO!!!
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0 #43 Cy Denneny 2013-02-06 11:02
I really liked how Smith contributed to his line last night. A big body, digging out the puck, and creating time and space for his more skilled linemates to get good looks and try to finish.
Not to disimilar to L3 where Neil and Greening create the space for Regin to look good.
Carolina will be a better test for these line combo's.
I could see Greening and ZBad eventually switch lines,( 2 skilled players to 1 big body), giving more balance to the top 3 lines, but I am ok either way.
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-10 #44 Alcatraz 2013-02-06 11:07
I still think we will eventually settle on:

Greening-Turris-MM
Silf-MZ-Alfie (go sweden)
Smith-Regin-Neil
Condra-JOB-Latendresse

With Lats playing on the 2nd PP, and he will see shifts on the top line replacing greening throughout the game as well
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-3 #45 Andrews Theory 2013-02-06 11:19
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Glad to see there haven't been anymore hating on Chris Phillips lately... I think he has also been one of our best dmen all season so far and the most consistent. Also people always say he's too slow, I just don't see that how often do you see a skater burn by Phillips like Benoit did to Myers last night... I think he is one of the best shutdown guys in the league. I doubt he is the slowest player on the team.


Really?

Who is it that you think is slower?

In a limited role he's fine but a top 4 he is not...apparentl y someone hypnotized him into believing he's a goal scorer though so that's awesome!
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0 #46 The Apostle 2013-02-06 11:22
Quoting Hax:
Quoting SensChirp:
Annnnd GO!


I pretty much never come here during games but I think a good addition would be to have a real-time chat during games instead of people just posting away. Keeps it segregated to a degree. Though moderating the chat might prove to be a impossible (i.e. keeping the usual losers from taking it over with comments meant to piss real fans off).



A game time only thread would be a great idea. I find they detract from other more long term discussions. I rarely hit the site at game time because (a) i'm watching the game and (b) it's a car crash in here during games.
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+1 #47 Hax 2013-02-06 11:23
Quoting Andrews Theory:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Glad to see there haven't been anymore hating on Chris Phillips lately... I think he has also been one of our best dmen all season so far and the most consistent. Also people always say he's too slow, I just don't see that how often do you see a skater burn by Phillips like Benoit did to Myers last night... I think he is one of the best shutdown guys in the league. I doubt he is the slowest player on the team.


Really?

Who is it that you think is slower?

In a limited role he's fine but a top 4 he is not...apparently someone hypnotized him into believing he's a goal scorer though so that's awesome!


Since when does a stay-at-home D need to be super fast? He's fine for what he is folks, stop expecting him to be Karlsson.
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0 #48 Guillaume 2013-02-06 11:25
So Gonchar is injured?

He was on the ice during the warm-up yesterday.
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+1 #49 Misaow 2013-02-06 11:26
Quoting SensChirp:
Looking for your input...

Now that we have the general layout figured out, we're looking into some new features and additions for the site.

What would you like to see added? Looking for things that would make for a more enjoyable reader experience and build on the excellent community we have here. Obviously not everything is possible but just hoping for some suggestions we can explore.

Annnnd GO!

Make your posts more prominent. The bolding only does help but it is still sometimes hard to see when you post.
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0 #50 SensChirp 2013-02-06 11:32
Some great suggestions so far. Keep em comin!
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+3 #51 Alcatraz 2013-02-06 11:33
Quoting Hax:


Since when does a stay-at-home D need to be super fast? He's fine for what he is folks, stop expecting him to be Karlsson.


Phillips is now a 5/6dman and thats not his fault nor is it bad

Stay at home dmen, the good ones at that, career arch have them as 3/4 dmen. Its just a fact. Langway, Adam Foote list goes on, they can't be #1 pairing because of their lack of skating and offenisve abilities.

Phillips has been one of the best 2nd pairing dmen for years. Now he is getting older and naturally regression settles in

Now he is one of the best 3rd pairing dmen in the league. He will give you 12-14 hard minutes and if we run into penalty problems can easily jump into the 14-19 minute range

Don't expect perfect games from him, but do expect effort, poise and leadership
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0 #52 Alcatraz 2013-02-06 11:34
The only issue with phillips is that with injuries and lack of solid depth on defense we are asking him to continue to be a 2nd pairing dman night in night out, and with that fatigue and mental lapses will set in

If this were a perfect year we would be looking at:
karlsson-methot
gonchar-cowen
phillips-lundin/boro/weir/benoit

Leadership role, solid anchor on a young d core
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0 #53 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 11:36
Quoting Andrews Theory:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Glad to see there haven't been anymore hating on Chris Phillips lately... I think he has also been one of our best dmen all season so far and the most consistent. Also people always say he's too slow, I just don't see that how often do you see a skater burn by Phillips like Benoit did to Myers last night... I think he is one of the best shutdown guys in the league. I doubt he is the slowest player on the team.


Really?

Who is it that you think is slower?

In a limited role he's fine but a top 4 he is not...apparently someone hypnotized him into believing he's a goal scorer though so that's awesome!


I don't know he's looked a hell of a lot better skater than Guillaume so far this season. I just don't see this "too slow" thing most seem to label him with...

He's probably faster than Paul Maclean too. Ha Ha and Craig Anderson.
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0 #54 Hax 2013-02-06 11:51
Quoting Guillaume:
So Gonchar is injured?

He was on the ice during the warm-up yesterday.


Flu
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+1 #55 Tookie 2013-02-06 11:55
Quoting Boivo:
I think King Karl is the best player in the league right now.


I would say best player in the League right now is Stamkos, guy scores at will.

But Karlsson is def in my top 5 players overall.

Stamkos
Karlsson
Crosby (he wont stay down for long)
St Louis
Malkin

Im not biting on Vanek or Marleau as they are not usually in these positions, they are too streaky.

And also as of RIGHT NOW, Karlsson is 5th in DEF scoring behind Enstrom, Letang, Pietrangelo and Shattenkirk.

All great D's except for Enstrom, I think he will fall soon enough.
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+1 #56 CarloswSPECR1 2013-02-06 11:58
Tyler Myers 12th overall 2008 NHL Entry Draft
Erik Karlsson 15th overall 2008 NHL Entry Draft

Calder trophy winner = Tyler Myers
Norris trophy Winnker = Erik Karlsson

Karlsson >> Myers

Many scouts have said that Karlsson could be the second coming of Lidstrom.

I think we got a potential Lidstrom 2.0

In Murray I trust.
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+2 #57 Boivo 2013-02-06 11:59
Quoting CarloswSPECR1:
Tyler Myers 12th overall 2008 NHL Entry Draft
Erik Karlsson 15th overall 2008 NHL Entry Draft

Calder trophy winner = Tyler Myers
Norris trophy Winnker = Erik Karlsson

Karlsson >> Myers

Many scouts have said that Karlsson could be the second coming of Lidstrom.

I think we got a potential Lidstrom 2.0

In Murray I trust.


Nope just a KING KARL his own league
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+1 #58 DrSens 2013-02-06 12:05
Baby K speaks to the team.
Loving this interview. Kid has some serious flow

http://proxy.autopod.ca/podcasts/chum/179/11238/erik%20karlsson%20in%20the%20box.mp3
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-1 #59 Tookie 2013-02-06 12:07
Quoting Boivo:
Quoting CarloswSPECR1:
Tyler Myers 12th overall 2008 NHL Entry Draft
Erik Karlsson 15th overall 2008 NHL Entry Draft

Calder trophy winner = Tyler Myers
Norris trophy Winnker = Erik Karlsson

Karlsson >> Myers

Many scouts have said that Karlsson could be the second coming of Lidstrom.

I think we got a potential Lidstrom 2.0

In Murray I trust.


Nope just a KING KARL his own league


Until King Karl wins us a couple of Cups, Lidstrom is still the undisputed King of Swedish D's.
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0 #60 Boivo 2013-02-06 12:14
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Boivo:
Quoting CarloswSPECR1:
Tyler Myers 12th overall 2008 NHL Entry Draft
Erik Karlsson 15th overall 2008 NHL Entry Draft

Calder trophy winner = Tyler Myers
Norris trophy Winnker = Erik Karlsson

Karlsson >> Myers

Many scouts have said that Karlsson could be the second coming of Lidstrom.

I think we got a potential Lidstrom 2.0

In Murray I trust.


Nope just a KING KARL his own league


Until King Karl wins us a couple of Cups, Lidstrom is still the undisputed King of Swedish D's.


FALSE
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+5 #61 Tookie 2013-02-06 12:40
Quoting Boivo:
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Boivo:
Quoting CarloswSPECR1:
Tyler Myers 12th overall 2008 NHL Entry Draft
Erik Karlsson 15th overall 2008 NHL Entry Draft

Calder trophy winner = Tyler Myers
Norris trophy Winnker = Erik Karlsson

Karlsson >> Myers

Many scouts have said that Karlsson could be the second coming of Lidstrom.

I think we got a potential Lidstrom 2.0

In Murray I trust.


Nope just a KING KARL his own league


Until King Karl wins us a couple of Cups, Lidstrom is still the undisputed King of Swedish D's.


FALSE


Thats your view and its fine but until Karlsson wins Cups (Lidstrom has 4) and puts up the body of work Lidstrom has (9 seasons of 60+ points).

They compare very well and if you were to ask Karlsson who he would want to be like, I would bet alot of money he says Lidstrom.
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+8 #62 spezzerman 2013-02-06 12:44
Lidstrom won seven Norris trophies and 4 cups and dominated the position in a defensive era.. there is no point in comparing the two right now.

Karlsson is definitely the most elecrtifying dman in the league and all signs point to a generational talent.

Generational talents win cups and as Sens fans its pretty damn exciting to think there is a good chance he brings us one in the near future.
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-2 #63 Merchaholic 2013-02-06 12:55
Should be tabs in the twitter box. Main one being SensChirp than the other being Sens (Shows the latest posts by Sens players). Maybe one of reliable sources in the league on trade rumors, ect.. You can click between all them.
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+6 #64 IcySurfas 2013-02-06 13:09
Maybe a Photo Section for Chirpers to add personal photos of various things Sens. Like Game photos, autograph sessions / random meet and greets, group shots of people watching games at home / at the bar, Bingo photos, trips....etc. Maybe even some folks on here living outside Ottawa (Canada even) can upload some photos of how they enjoy games wherever they are.

Might seem slightly tacky, but I'm sure enough people on here have some fun stuff to share.

Could even kick start the Photo section by having a little contest for "best fan photo" or something like that, with a prize (hint hint Chirp) awarded to best entry.

Visuals are always great on any forum. Should add a little colour and community to the site....me thinks.
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+5 #65 Alcatraz 2013-02-06 13:13
Quoting IcySurfas:
Maybe a Photo Section for Chirpers to add personal photos of various things Sens. Like Game photos, autograph sessions / random meet and greets, group shots of people watching games at home / at the bar, Bingo photos, trips....etc. Maybe even some folks on here living outside Ottawa (Canada even) can upload some photos of how they enjoy games wherever they are.

Might seem slightly tacky, but I'm sure enough people on here have some fun stuff to share.


Personally what makes this site good is it is very bare (no offense chirp) Its minimal in nature and easy to navigate

If you want to incorporate photo sharing etc, I would say just start a senschirp FB page, and link that here. That site works well for timelines of group photos and sharing
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+5 #66 thepez 2013-02-06 13:17
I won't get into a debate as to whether EK65 will be as good as Lidstrom. Lidstrom played 20 years, averaged 60 points a season (based on a 82 game season) and he missed about 45 games due to injury/illness. EK65 is averaging 56 points a season so far (knock on wood) he has been relatively healthy. It took 6 years for Lidstrom to win a cup and had some great talent around him.

Let's hope that EK65 plays for 16 more years with the Sens and with the team building around him hopefully a cup is not too far away.
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+6 #67 TheBoss 2013-02-06 13:28
It comes down to the system you play in. You really think Karl would have had 70+ pts under Clouston or Jacques or Harts? Highly doubt it. 50 maybe. Could he be as good if not better than Lidstrom? If he keeps improving, of course. What separates a good player from an elite player is whether or not they can adapt.

Coach Maclean's system has done WONDERS for Karl's development. My only hope is that the organization remains with him through the next few years. But it does come down to the power of fans. Sometimes it absolutely makes me sick how entitled some fans are and how much power they can have. Too many times do fans run players, GMs, and coaches out of town.

I hope that he stays long-term like Vigneault, Babcock, McLean, Bylsma, etc. While they have not all won, they've created a winning culture that expects nothing less than failure. Which has shown through their consistency.
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+2 #68 Tcharger 2013-02-06 13:35
Popup comments returning
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0 #69 Senator Stanley 2013-02-06 13:50
Eric Francis talking about Flames need for a goalie with Kipper being injured.

"Still, it's hard to believe the Flames have the appetite or depth to send a second-rounder to Ottawa, which is what the Sens are reportedly asking to replenish the pick they gave the St. Louis Blues to acquire Bishop last year"
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+4 #70 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-06 13:52
I was reading an article on my Score app about Kostka's ice time in Toronto. It's based around how he's playing top line minutes with Phaneuf, but in all accounts he shouldn't be doing it. Is it Carlyle not seeing how bad he is? It's worth a read.

Then I look at Benoit. He's also had a career in the AHL, much like Kostka. However, his overall production on the Ice is similar but it's his decisions on the Defensive end, and in key situations which I think are much, much better. Not that Benoit deserves 1st pairing, but I'd take Benoit over Kostka any day of the week.

Personally, Ottawa should sign him after this year to a 1 or 2 year and feel him out on the roster, because so far he's deserved that much.
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+1 #71 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-06 13:54
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
@Senschirp, Also really like the twitter box. Would it be possible to have the box move with the screen, so when you scroll down the comments the box stays with you on the right side of the site. That way people wont have to go all the way back to the top to check the twitter box.


I like the idea, but I'd make the twitter box a form that sticks to the bottom of the web browser. Regardless of where you are in the comments, or on the page, or what size you have the browser, it would be attached at the bottom frame and update like an RSS feed. Maybe you could make it append the same way you have the Scroll To Top at the bottom right corner.
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+4 #72 TheBoss 2013-02-06 13:54
Quoting chadillac:
Best stat I heard last night was that Karlsson was still leading Finnish D scoring by 11 points.


Would it be possible for Karl to win the NHL Norris and the Finnish Norris/D Trophy all in one season? Would he be the first to do that... Can you even do that under IIHF rules...
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-3 #73 thepez 2013-02-06 13:58
Quoting Senator Stanley:
Eric Francis talking about Flames need for a goalie with Kipper being injured.

"Still, it's hard to believe the Flames have the appetite or depth to send a second-rounder to Ottawa, which is what the Sens are reportedly asking to replenish the pick they gave the St. Louis Blues to acquire Bishop last year"


Would it not make more sense to try and package Bishop with something else, to try and acquire a player rather than a second rounder? I know he has had a tough start to his career but a guy like Magnus Paajarvi may be the type of player that Bryan Murray goes after, using Bishop as one of the pieces.
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0 #74 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-06 14:01
Quoting Senator Stanley:
Eric Francis talking about Flames need for a goalie with Kipper being injured.

"Still, it's hard to believe the Flames have the appetite or depth to send a second-rounder to Ottawa, which is what the Sens are reportedly asking to replenish the pick they gave the St. Louis Blues to acquire Bishop last year"


I saw the update last night about Kipper and my first thought, Ottawa will soon be in trade rumor with Bishop at the top of that list. If there is a team in the NHL I would steer clear of trading with, it would be Calgary. While they are a Western team, they just don't have much in depth that I would see Ottawa interested in. And is Ottawa going to trade for just a pick? If that's the case, then I guess it's the year to do it, as Calgary looks to be finishing somewhere near the bottom, with a better chance at a higher pick. But still not guaranteed.
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0 #75 GreeningTheMonster 2013-02-06 14:05
Hey chirp, last year u put the contact info of that guy who gives group tickets and good deals , can u post that info in the comment section please
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0 #76 hq8 2013-02-06 14:15
Quoting TheBoss:
.....Coach Maclean's system has done WONDERS for Karl's development. .....
I hope that he stays long-term like Vigneault, Babcock, McLean, Bylsma, etc. While they have not all won, they've created a winning culture that expects nothing less than failure. Which has shown through their consistency.


you make a great point actually. the sens have finally found a coach who makes the team work. the best thing i like about MacLean is that he just seems really calm - which helps in tough stretches. he understands its a rebuild and wants to make it super successful. Dave Cameron is also a really good asset on the sens coaching staff and is probably going to look for a head coach job at some point. I would hope that they keep most of the staff as is until they get super close to a cup.
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0 #77 Senator Stanley 2013-02-06 14:16
As stated previously the flames pick in the second would be a very high pick.
If this is another deep draft then that would also open up the possibility of packaging our first and the flames second to move up for a higher pick or draft two decent prospects.
I guess Bishops lack of playing and his bad game are preventing a higher ceiling on this trade.
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+2 #78 SensChirp 2013-02-06 14:28
Quoting GreeningTheMonster:
Hey chirp, last year u put the contact info of that guy who gives group tickets and good deals , can u post that info in the comment section please

Sure, just email me at and I'd be happy to pass it along. Thanks!
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-6 #79 Tookie 2013-02-06 15:01
Quoting MethotToMyMadness:
I was reading an article on my Score app about Kostka's ice time in Toronto. It's based around how he's playing top line minutes with Phaneuf, but in all accounts he shouldn't be doing it. Is it Carlyle not seeing how bad he is? It's worth a read.

Then I look at Benoit. He's also had a career in the AHL, much like Kostka. However, his overall production on the Ice is similar but it's his decisions on the Defensive end, and in key situations which I think are much, much better.


Well Kotska is playing vs top line talent everygame, unlike Benoit, so you cant really compare both. Benoit plays 3rd pairing IF he plays at all.

Benoit seems like the better player right now as pressure is not on him to produce.
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0 #80 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 15:15
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting IcySurfas:


Personally what makes this site good is it is very bare (no offense chirp) Its minimal in nature and easy to navigate

If you want to incorporate photo sharing etc, I would say just start a senschirp FB page, and link that here. That site works well for timelines of group photos and sharing


I think a SensChirp photo section is a fantastic idea! Don't really understand how adding a simple photo section like the video section would all of a sudden change the atmosphere of the site and make it harder to navigate. Although a Senschirp FB page is also a good idea, I think adding the photo section would be awesome.
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0 #81 Alcatraz 2013-02-06 15:22
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting IcySurfas:


Personally what makes this site good is it is very bare (no offense chirp) Its minimal in nature and easy to navigate

If you want to incorporate photo sharing etc, I would say just start a senschirp FB page, and link that here. That site works well for timelines of group photos and sharing


I think a SensChirp photo section is a fantastic idea! Don't really understand how adding a simple photo section like the video section would all of a sudden change the atmosphere of the site and make it harder to navigate. Although a Senschirp FB page is also a good idea, I think adding the photo section would be awesome.


More or less I guess in terms of our ability to upload/gain access to photos and control

With FB its a network we can tag and add descriptions. Through this site, Chirp would need to administer it much more
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-2 #82 Sens of Peskyville 2013-02-06 15:25
Quoting Tookie:

Well Kotska is playing vs top line talent everygame, unlike Benoit, so you cant really compare both. Benoit plays 3rd pairing IF he plays at all.

Benoit seems like the better player right now as pressure is not on him to produce.


Very true. They've also had different team mates, different opponents and different referees.

As Tookie says, you really can never compare 2 players since it will always be apples and oranges.

The article mentioned is here:
http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2013/02/05/seriously-whats-the-deal-with-mike-kostkas-ice-time/
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+3 #83 SensChirp 2013-02-06 15:30
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting IcySurfas:


Personally what makes this site good is it is very bare (no offense chirp) Its minimal in nature and easy to navigate

If you want to incorporate photo sharing etc, I would say just start a senschirp FB page, and link that here. That site works well for timelines of group photos and sharing


I think a SensChirp photo section is a fantastic idea! Don't really understand how adding a simple photo section like the video section would all of a sudden change the atmosphere of the site and make it harder to navigate. Although a Senschirp FB page is also a good idea, I think adding the photo section would be awesome.


More or less I guess in terms of our ability to upload/gain access to photos and control

With FB its a network we can tag and add descriptions. Through this site, Chirp would need to administer it much more

I'll look into this idea a little bit. Would be cool to have a FansZone where people could upload images from games/bars/livi ng rooms but yea, would require moderation

In the meantime, SensChirp has a Facebook page already!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/SensChirp/137789796245377
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+5 #84 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 15:30
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
[quote name="Alcatraz"][quote name="IcySurfas"]

More or less I guess in terms of our ability to upload/gain access to photos and control

With FB its a network we can tag and add descriptions. Through this site, Chirp would need to administer it much more



Doesn't need to be that advanced could be as simple as a weekly or monthly SensChirp pic, where we just email him and he selects his SensChirp photo of the week or month and puts it up in the photo section for us to see, that would keep it simple enough wouldn't it?
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+12 #85 thepez 2013-02-06 15:56
Just to change it up a bit. Tomorrow night in St.Louis, Wade Redden plays game number 1000. Congrats to Wade. He gave us some great years here in Ottawa and was a key in 2007 when the Sens came close. Hope he has a great game and rest of the season.
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+2 #86 SensChirp 2013-02-06 15:58
Quoting Cassidaus:
I have to echo Alcatraz, Chirp. I like the simplicity of the site. I'm not sure there needs to be too many bells and whistles to create a good experience (my opinion).

Regardless, you're doing a great job.

The simple parts will remain simple.

My post of the day and the comment section that follows will remain the focus. The idea is to have those additional “bells and whistles” for users that want them. All optional stuff. Something I learned from the last site makeover is that people really do value simplicity in the user experience. That is certainly a priority moving forward.
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+1 #87 Tcharger 2013-02-06 16:01
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting Cassidaus:
I have to echo Alcatraz, Chirp. I like the simplicity of the site. I'm not sure there needs to be too many bells and whistles to create a good experience (my opinion).

Regardless, you're doing a great job.

The simple parts will remain simple.

My post of the day and the comment section that follows will remain the focus. The idea is to have those additional “bells and whistles” for users that want them. All optional stuff. Something I learned from the last site makeover is that people really do value simplicity in the user experience. That is certainly a priority moving forward.



Popup comments back????

Eliminating them is a pain in the butt for anyone that uses mobile.
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-8 #88 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 16:05
SensChirp, I have another idea most people might find this childish or useless but just for shits and giggles I wouldn't mind seeing in the My Account section under User Status a tally of how many Thumb Ups and Downs I have.
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+1 #89 Sens of Peskyville 2013-02-06 16:08
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
SensChirp, I have another idea most people might find this childish or useless but just for shits and giggles I wouldn't mind seeing in the My Account section under User Status a tally of how many Thumb Ups and Downs I have.


Perhaps a leaderboard?
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+2 #90 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 16:12
Quoting DajaSens:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
SensChirp, I have another idea most people might find this childish or useless but just for shits and giggles I wouldn't mind seeing in the My Account section under User Status a tally of how many Thumb Ups and Downs I have.


Perhaps a leaderboard?


I think turning it into a competition would probably be a bad idea. Just keep it personal just as a novelty thing.
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+1 #91 Alcatraz 2013-02-06 16:17
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Quoting DajaSens:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
SensChirp, I have another idea most people might find this childish or useless but just for shits and giggles I wouldn't mind seeing in the My Account section under User Status a tally of how many Thumb Ups and Downs I have.


Perhaps a leaderboard?


I think turning it into a competition would probably be a bad idea. Just keep it personal just as a novelty thing.

haha ya te chidlren here who go on thumbs down spurs would be awful

A tally of # of posts make sense

Also opportunity to create signatures to include any twitter handles people may have
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+2 #92 The Apostle 2013-02-06 16:19
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
I wouldn't mind seeing in the My Account section under User Status a tally of how many Thumb Ups and Downs I have.



Wouldn't the words "not enough" cover it?
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+1 #93 Sandy 2013-02-06 16:22
Good win last night.

Hope it's a confidence booster for Peter Regin he played a great game last night.

Playing with 3 rookie D in the lineup they seem to not miss a beat.

But I agree in that Benoit stays they can't risk losing him on waivers.

I too was one who was down on Phillips the first part of the season. But I guess, like Alfie, needed time to find his legs. He will never be a speedster but he is playing decent.

Hope the Sens make their game simple. Don't try to overcompensate for the loss of Spezza. The centres were very good in the faceoffs last night.

Carolina has been playing well. Let's hope for a win tomorrow.
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+4 #94 The Apostle 2013-02-06 16:27
Quoting Sandy:
Good win last night.

Playing with 3 rookie D in the lineup they seem to not miss a beat.

But I agree in that Benoit stays they can't risk losing him on waivers.


Given the compressed schedule I think they will run with 7 blueliners the entire season.

Moving Benoit to Bingo which, I believe wouldlead to somebody picking him up on waivers, doesn't seem to be a risk worth taking.

On the assumption that Lundin and Gonchar won't be back next year, I think Benoit has a decent chance to earn a new contract as a 5-7 blueliner.
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-3 #95 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 16:27
Quoting The Apostle:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
I wouldn't mind seeing in the My Account section under User Status a tally of how many Thumb Ups and Downs I have.



Wouldn't the words "not enough" cover it?


Not Enough?

I don't get it... not enough what? Thumbs, for what? I don't understand. I just thought some people would like to know how many thumb ups and downs they have for a chuckle... So what do you mean by "not enough"
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+4 #96 DenisVial 2013-02-06 16:29
If Calgary really wants Bishop, then I say we package him with a pick or prospect for Mark Giordano. He's relatively young and solves our #3 Dman problem immediately. I see him play all the time and the guy is a stud. They already have 8 defencemen on one way deals, so they could afford to let him go with Wideman and Jaybo already eating big minutes.
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-1 #97 The Apostle 2013-02-06 16:34
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Quoting The Apostle:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
I wouldn't mind seeing in the My Account section under User Status a tally of how many Thumb Ups and Downs I have.



Wouldn't the words "not enough" cover it?


Not Enough?

I don't get it... not enough what? Thumbs, for what? I don't understand. I just thought some people would like to know how many thumb ups and downs they have for a chuckle... So what do you mean by "not enough"


I think more people would like to see the rating system done away with entirely, it adds virtually nothing to the site - especially now the report function is here.
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+1 #98 Boivo 2013-02-06 16:36
It adds something, it lets you know if the majority of ppl on here agree or disagree with your assessment or opinion. I think its good, at least when I have an opinion on the way the boys are playing and i get thumbs down galore I know its probably off base and I make a new one.
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-5 #99 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 16:40
@The Apostle
OK then, forget it bad idea I guess lol.
I thought the rating system was just for fun, if its being used to dictate who is allowed to post on this site like you say than I will no longer be using it.
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-9 #100 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-02-06 16:41
Quoting The Apostle:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
[quote name="The Apostle"][quote name="The Silfer Surfer"] I wouldn't mind seeing in the My Account section under User Status a tally of how many Thumb Ups and Downs I have.



Wouldn't the words "not enough" cover it?

I think more people would like to see the rating system done away with entirely, it adds virtually nothing to the site - especially now the report function is here.


Hey Chirp,

I fully agree with The Apostle in eliminating the Thumbs Up / Thumbs Down
feature. Even though we are all entitled to an opinion, it really does nothing for many of us .

I think since it has been on your site , I used it maybe 2-3 times, and do not pay any attention to it anymore !
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-1 #101 Tookie 2013-02-06 16:47
Quoting Sandy:

Carolina has been playing well. Let's hope for a win tomorrow.


Yeah here's hoping we get our League leading 4th straight game with a back up!
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+1 #102 Boivo 2013-02-06 16:49
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:
Quoting The Apostle:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
[quote name="The Apostle"][quote name="The Silfer Surfer"] I wouldn't mind seeing in the My Account section under User Status a tally of how many Thumb Ups and Downs I have.



Wouldn't the words "not enough" cover it?

I think more people would like to see the rating system done away with entirely, it adds virtually nothing to the site - especially now the report function is here.


Hey Chirp,

I fully agree with The Apostle in eliminating the Thumbs Up / Thumbs Down
feature. Even though we are all entitled to an opinion, it really does nothing for many of us .

I think since it has been on your site , I used it maybe 2-3 times, and do not pay any attention to it anymore !


So it is a non issue for you then. Great. why bother commenting then?
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+17 #103 Hax 2013-02-06 16:51
Good Lord people. The thumbs up/down is just for people to quickly agree or disagree. It's similar to "like" on facebook or other similar features on other boards.

Unknot your panties. If you're going to determine your self worth by the rating on your posts you're pathetic to begin with.
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-2 #104 Boivo 2013-02-06 16:52
Thumbs up! lol
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+1 #105 Tcharger 2013-02-06 17:02
Hax NAILS it
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+1 #106 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 17:02
Soooo, How 'bout them Sens eh!
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+3 #107 jakester 2013-02-06 17:06
Good to see Tookie on here , I guess the Leafs aren't mathematically eliminated yet. Just kidding bud.
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0 #108 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-02-06 17:08
Quoting Boivo:
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:
[quote name="The Apostle"][quote name="The Silfer Surfer"][quote name="The Apostle"][quote name="The Silfer Surfer"] I wouldn't mind seeing in the My Account section under User Status a tally of how many Thumb Ups and Downs I have.[/quote


Wouldn't the words "not enough" cover it?


Hey Chirp,

I fully agree with The Apostle in eliminating the Thumbs Up / Thumbs Down
feature. Even though we are all entitled to an opinion, it really does nothing for many of us .

I think since it has been on your site , I used it maybe 2-3 times, and do not pay any attention to it anymore !


So it is a non issue for you then. Great. why bother commenting then?


@ Boivo,

A- Because the owner of this site wants some feedback and ideas !

B- Your opinion would get My Thumbs Down,
but I do not want to insult you !!
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+1 #109 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 17:11
Yea know what would make this conversation on the thumbs up/down really interesting. Being able to see who is thumbing you! lol
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-4 #110 C.J. 2013-02-06 17:26
No offense or anything but isn't it ironic that you say its good cuz when I have an opinion that gets thumbed down, I change my opinion? If you change your opinion because of a thumbs down then your "new opinion" isnt really your opinion at all, its you trying to match the consensus. Just my two cents.

Quoting Boivo:
It adds something, it lets you know if the majority of ppl on here agree or disagree with your assessment or opinion. I think its good, at least when I have an opinion on the way the boys are playing and i get thumbs down galore I know its probably off base and I make a new one.
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+2 #111 Sens of Peskyville 2013-02-06 17:48
Quoting Hax:
Good Lord people. The thumbs up/down is just for people to quickly agree or disagree. It's similar to "like" on facebook or other similar features on other boards.

Unknot your panties. If you're going to determine your self worth by the rating on your posts you're pathetic to begin with.


I was actually joking when I suggested leaderboards... I guess that wasn't clear... damn lack of a sarcasm font...

Perhaps we should have like/dislike buttons for the comment, but also agree/disagree buttons, too...

That way people could agree with Tookie, but dislike the comment at the same time.





Again, sarcasm.
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+2 #112 Hax 2013-02-06 17:50
Quoting C.J.:
No offense or anything but isn't it ironic that you say its good cuz when I have an opinion that gets thumbed down, I change my opinion? If you change your opinion because of a thumbs down then your "new opinion" isnt really your opinion at all, its you trying to match the consensus. Just my two cents.

Quoting Boivo:
It adds something, it lets you know if the majority of ppl on here agree or disagree with your assessment or opinion. I think its good, at least when I have an opinion on the way the boys are playing and i get thumbs down galore I know its probably off base and I make a new one.


Pretty sure what Boivo meant is that in any situation where you state something and people disagree you might evaluate your statement and re-think it. I don't think if he said the sky is blue and people thumbed him down he'd change his mind.
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+3 #113 Mr Hockey 2013-02-06 17:55
Quoting Hax:
Good Lord people. The thumbs up/down is just for people to quickly agree or disagree. It's similar to "like" on facebook or other similar features on other boards.

Unknot your panties. If you're going to determine your self worth by the rating on your posts you're pathetic to begin with.


Say what you want, but I'm pretty damn jealous of those six thumbs up you got..
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+8 #114 57gord 2013-02-06 18:05
Chirp
Probably been said before but how about separate thumbs up and down results ? Instead of just one cancelling out the other. So say 20 up and 20 downs doesn't make it look like anybody has had another opinion.
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-6 #115 NadislavLagy 2013-02-06 18:38
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Karlsson! Karlsson!
Varldens Basta Karlsson!

Does anyone believe Karlsson could potentially win the Norris and the Hart trophy this year?

Who was the last defenseman to do such a thing? Orr?


Checked wikidpedia Chris Pronger got both awards in 99-2000 with St.Louis.


Ok, seriously... who gives this guy and this message a thumbs down? Talk about immaturity. What do you thumbs down about it? It's a factual statement, so are you disagreeing with fact? Or is it a personal slight against the poster? Do you dislike Chris Pronger so you take it out on this guy?

Grow up. Get rid of this system.
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0 #116 Hax 2013-02-06 18:46
A classic example of taking it too seriously. Silfer knows it's a fact not his opinion so no way he should feel slighted.

I didn't thumb either way (I rarely do) but he did mention Pronger from the hated Ducks of 07.
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0 #117 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 19:10
Quoting NadislavLagy:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
[quote name="The Silfer Surfer"]Karlsson!


Ok, seriously... who gives this guy and this message a thumbs down? Talk about immaturity. What do you thumbs down about it? It's a factual statement, so are you disagreeing with fact? Or is it a personal slight against the poster? Do you dislike Chris Pronger so you take it out on this guy?

Grow up. Get rid of this system.


Sorry Nadislav but I just had to thumb down this comment lol, cause I really (hopefully like most people here) don't care if I get thumb downs, if somebody has a issue with me that's their problem not mine. I do appreciate you sticking up for me though. Chirp please don't get rid of this system, I use it and think it adds a little fun to conversations!
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-6 #118 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-02-06 19:20
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Quoting NadislavLagy:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
[quote name="The Silfer Surfer"]Karlsson!


Ok, seriously... who gives this guy

Grow up. Get rid of this system.


Sorry Nadislav but I just had to thumb down this comment lol, cause I really (hopefully like most people here) don't care if I get thumb downs, if somebody has a issue with me that's their problem not mine. I do appreciate you sticking up for me though. Chirp please don't get rid of this system, I use it and think it adds a little fun to conversations!


I would suggest to Chirp, that it might be a great time, to have Chirp hold a vote, with all the posters YES or NO to
Thumbs Up / Thumbs Down on this site.

We could vote by sending our YES or NO to his e-mail account

What do you think Chirp ??
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0 #119 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 19:22
Let's hope for no 3 point night between the Habs and Bruins tonight, should be a good game though. Too bad they both couldn't lose the game somehow...
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-3 #120 Tcharger 2013-02-06 19:24
I can't believe so many people take the +/- so seriously....ta lk about living an unfulfilling life
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0 #121 Tcharger 2013-02-06 19:41
Oh Chirp saw on Twitter you got the new BB?

Played with one a few days ago, I was pleasantly surprised, with the interface and re-activeness.

Any initial reviews?
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0 #122 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 19:42
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
[quote name="NadislavLagy"][quote name="The Silfer Surfer"][quote name="The Silfer Surfer"]Karlsson!



I would suggest to Chirp, that it might be a great time, to have Chirp hold a vote, with all the posters YES or NO to
Thumbs Up / Thumbs Down on this site.

We could vote by sending our YES or NO to his e-mail account

What do you think Chirp ??


I think that's a really bad idea, how 'bout we have a vote on whether your idea is a good idea or not first. Guess what! We could use this system where people can give you a thumbs up or down lol. Would that be a conflict of interest for you?

First of all, how could we make sure everybody that uses this site will be involved in the vote. Secondly, let's say 100 people vote and 52 want to get rid of it that's not very fair for the 48 people who do enjoy the rating system...
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+6 #123 Sandy 2013-02-06 20:36
Don't know how.. since they are missing 9 of their players from the start of the season, either up with Ottawa or out with injury.. but the B-Sens lead Adirondack 1-0 to end of 2nd period.

As for the thumbs up or down.. I really don't care. People on this blog write their opinions. Opinions are neither right nor wrong.

Some agree, some don't.. that's about it.

I have had a lot of thumbs down - doesn't bother me. Readers don't like my opinions, they don't have to read them.

We love our Sens, that's all there is..
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-6 #124 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-02-06 20:36
@ The Silfer Surfer

Not a good idea, as it would influence the vote taken by Chirp, to keep or delete this feature.

No conflict of interest in my estimation.

Cut to the chase, and have posters vote .

A vote of 52-48 to delete is a majority vote, and is clearly the deciding factor.
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+1 #125 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 20:46
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:
@ The Silfer Surfer

Not a good idea, as it would influence the vote taken by Chirp, to keep or delete this feature.

No conflict of interest in my estimation.

Cut to the chase, and have posters vote .

A vote of 52-48 to delete is a majority vote, and is clearly the deciding factor.


Why can't you just make a personal decision to not use the thumbsup/down system and ignore it, instead of trying to ruin it for people who do use it.
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+1 #126 SensChirp 2013-02-06 21:05
Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:
Oh Chirp saw on Twitter you got the new BB?

Played with one a few days ago, I was pleasantly surprised, with the interface and re-activeness.

Any initial reviews?

It's pretty awesome! Struggling with set up and getting used to the touch screen right now but I definitely like it!
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0 #127 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 21:18
Chirp since Lundin skated today can you tell us if there was any indication that he will play soon. Tomorrow? This week?

Don't know much about him, but I'm sure since the Bingo call ups been have doing so well, he should come out flying, so he can keep playing and not end up in the press box.
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-1 #128 Hax 2013-02-06 21:19
Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:
I can't believe so many people take the +/- so seriously....talk about living an unfulfilling life


Plus/minus on this site is less meaningful than plus/minus in the NHL.

Chirp already made it clear that 1000 thumbs down won't lead to him banning a person or deleting a post. Only people who report the post and even then only if Chirp agrees the post in question (or person) is out of line.

Drink the full glass of water with your chill pill guys.
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+2 #129 hq8 2013-02-06 21:19
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Let's hope for no 3 point night between the Habs and Bruins tonight, should be a good game though. Too bad they both couldn't lose the game somehow...


the bruins look anemic - too much perimeter play. personally i would like the bruins to thump mtl due to mtl having two games in hand on us and 1 game on them. i thought that the sens were the better team against mtl so im surprised to see the bruins play a little bleh today given they are carrying a healthy roster. i think without tim thomas the bruins don't have that cerebral edge they had the last three years.
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+3 #130 Sandy 2013-02-06 21:21
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Chirp since Lundin skated today can you tell us if there was any indication that he will play soon. Tomorrow? This week?

Don't know much about him, but I'm sure since the Bingo call ups been have doing so well, he should come out flying, so he can keep playing and not end up in the press box.


He has had 1 practice with the team. Does he know the system. Is he in game shape?

IMO I think he needs a couple of more practices.

Rumour is the Sens will stay with 8 D. Poor Luke Richardson, he must be having nightmares after losing so many callups, waiting for that phone call that says.. send up THE LEHNER.
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0 #131 Hax 2013-02-06 21:23
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Chirp since Lundin skated today can you tell us if there was any indication that he will play soon. Tomorrow? This week?

Don't know much about him, but I'm sure since the Bingo call ups been have doing so well, he should come out flying, so he can keep playing and not end up in the press box.


Would like to hear Chirp's view as well but the quotes I read from MacLean made it sound like they weren't going to rush him in next game. Might send Boro down and have Lundin as #7 until Benoit or someone else needs a night off.
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0 #132 hq8 2013-02-06 21:24
Quoting Sandy:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Chirp since Lundin skated today can you tell us if there was any indication that he will play soon. Tomorrow? This week?

Don't know much about him, but I'm sure since the Bingo call ups been have doing so well, he should come out flying, so he can keep playing and not end up in the press box.


He has had 1 practice with the team. Does he know the system. Is he in game shape?

IMO I think he needs a couple of more practices.

Rumour is the Sens will stay with 8 D. Poor Luke Richardson, he must be having nightmares after losing so many callups, waiting for that phone call that says.. send up THE LEHNER.


he will eventually have to come out of retirement and play D himself lol why would the sens carry 8D though?? although i like how Maclean is making the rotations work seamlessly.
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+3 #133 MoeDozer 2013-02-06 21:27
looks like lebda is fitting well down in bingo. already got his first goal (open netter). bingo wins 3-0!

edit: lehner getting a 29save shutout, 3rd SO this year.
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0 #134 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 21:28
Quoting hq8:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Let's hope for no 3 point night between the Habs and Bruins tonight, should be a good game though. Too bad they both couldn't lose the game somehow...


the bruins look anemic - too much perimeter play. personally i would like the bruins to thump mtl due to mtl having two games in hand on us and 1 game on them. i thought that the sens were the better team against mtl so im surprised to see the bruins play a little bleh today given they are carrying a healthy roster. i think without tim thomas the bruins don't have that cerebral edge they had the last three years.


Did you see that break away from Pleckanics?

What the hell was that lol.

Made Lattendresses penalty shot from a few games back look good!
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0 #135 hq8 2013-02-06 21:32
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Quoting hq8:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Let's hope for no 3 point night between the Habs and Bruins tonight, should be a good game though. Too bad they both couldn't lose the game somehow...


the bruins look anemic - too much perimeter play. personally i would like the bruins to thump mtl due to mtl having two games in hand on us and 1 game on them........


Did you see that break away from Pleckanics?

What the hell was that lol.

Made Lattendresses penalty shot from a few games back look good!


no didn't - missed that. watching mtl is the same as watching nyr - they are now all about blocking shots and collapsing around price.
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0 #136 hq8 2013-02-06 21:34
man the bruins are something lol..and that seguin kid...toronto maple leafs fans will probably mourn for ages. just like that game even.
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+1 #137 MoeDozer 2013-02-06 21:37
Quoting hq8:
man the bruins are something lol..and that seguin kid...toronto maple leafs fans will probably mourn for ages. just like that game even.

i think they missed out even more on dougie hamilton he is unbelievable to watch for his age in the pros.
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0 #138 Hax 2013-02-06 21:37
Quoting hq8:
he will eventually have to come out of retirement and play D himself lol why would the sens carry 8D though?? although i like how Maclean is making the rotations work seamlessly.


The life of an AHL coach.

I'm going to guess here that MacLean wants Lundin to get a few more practices in (as Sandy suggested) and maybe even play a couple of games to prove to MacLean that he's indeed an upgrade over Boro. Then they'll send Boro down.

But if Lundin isn't sharp can they really waive him? I guess they'd have to.
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+3 #139 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 21:39
That last Boston goal should have been called off for goalie interference! Krecji's stick touched Price's pad when the puck went in!
:P
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+1 #140 MoeDozer 2013-02-06 21:49
looking at our team stats. Zibanejad is 2nd in our team in takeaways per game with 5 in 5 games. with only 1 giveaway.. obviously no player even in the league can compare to karlsson in takeaways.

condra silfverberg phillips neil all have 1 giveaway each in 10games played.

to no surprise michlaek (tied with condra) lead our forwards in missed shots. and is 7th on team in shots on net.

interesting to see michalek has recorded 0 hits this season.
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0 #141 SensChirp 2013-02-06 21:58
Quoting Hax:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Chirp since Lundin skated today can you tell us if there was any indication that he will play soon. Tomorrow? This week?

Don't know much about him, but I'm sure since the Bingo call ups been have doing so well, he should come out flying, so he can keep playing and not end up in the press box.


Would like to hear Chirp's view as well but the quotes I read from MacLean made it sound like they weren't going to rush him in next game. Might send Boro down and have Lundin as #7 until Benoit or someone else needs a night off.

Yea, I would be surprised if he played tomorrow. No need to rush him.
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+1 #142 hq8 2013-02-06 22:00
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
That last Boston goal should have been called off for goalie interference! Krecji's stick touched Price's pad when the puck went in!
:P

haha the refs are a bunch of idiots this year. did anyone see last nights sharks game? what i dont get is that why do they hand out match penalties so recklessly and change the course of the game when it almost immediately gets rescinded.
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+1 #143 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 22:10
Bruins win.
Way to go! Chris Kelly!
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0 #144 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 22:22
Hey SensChirp, I have a couple more ideas for you.
First, how about making our avatar pics bigger.
Second, I don't know anything about you or how this awesome website was created so maybe you could add an "about" page that tells existing and new Chirpers the story of how your passion for hockey and the Senators led to the creation and evolution of SensChirp.
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0 #145 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 22:25
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Hey SensChirp, I have a couple more ideas for you.
First, how about making our avatar pics bigger.
Second, I don't know anything about you or how this awesome website was created so maybe you could add an "about" page that tells existing and new Chirpers the story of how your passion for hockey and the Senators led to the creation and evolution of SensChirp.


I'm a douche lol there is already an about page, not very much detail though of SensChirps story.
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0 #146 Rover 2013-02-06 23:12
Maybe a sarcasm font...
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0 #147 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 23:27
Quoting Rover:
Maybe a sarcasm font...


http://sartalics.com/
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+1 #148 SensChirp 2013-02-06 23:36
First comment posted from the phone. Nice to have a device that can actually browse the Internet
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+2 #149 SensChirp 2013-02-06 23:38
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Hey SensChirp, I have a couple more ideas for you.
First, how about making our avatar pics bigger.
Second, I don't know anything about you or how this awesome website was created so maybe you could add an "about" page that tells existing and new Chirpers the story of how your passion for hockey and the Senators led to the creation and evolution of SensChirp.


I'm a douche lol there is already an about page, not very much detail though of SensChirps story.

Yup and actually I didn't write that. Was put up as a place holder by the web design guy. Working on some content of my own to go in that space!
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0 #150 111519 2013-02-06 23:40
There is no way I am getting my high school cheerleader.
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+2 #151 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-06 23:43
Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Hey SensChirp, I have a couple more ideas for you.
First, how about making our avatar pics bigger.
Second, I don't know anything about you or how this awesome website was created so maybe you could add an "about" page that tells existing and new Chirpers the story of how your passion for hockey and the Senators led to the creation and evolution of SensChirp.


I'm a douche lol there is already an about page, not very much detail though of SensChirps story.

Yup and actually I didn't write that. Was put up as a place holder by the web design guy. Working on some content of my own to go in that space!


When you said "Yup" Chirp, are you agreeing that I'm a douche!
No more ideas for you. Haha
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0 #152 Merchaholic 2013-02-07 05:22
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:


When you said "Yup" Chirp, are you agreeing that I'm a douche!
No more ideas for you. Haha


Lmao!

I'm kind of sad that Bishop will most likely be in nets when I'm at the game Saturday. Hopefully he redeems himself. I want to see a win live this year since I can't go to half a season of home games like last year with my newborn lol.
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+1 #153 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-07 07:09
Two trades happened yesterday, both receiving ends get a 5th round pick in return. Lovejoy leaves Pitts for Dallas and Loktionov is leaving LA for the bright lights of Jersey.

Doesn't a 5th seem a little low on both ends? Lovejoy had been a pretty serviceable guy, this year being the exception. Lok on the other hand was an up and coming c with LA, a former 5th rounder himself.

And one last question, where did Fasth come from??
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-1 #154 ZachPraiseTheSwedes 2013-02-07 07:31
Fasth is from Sweden. He dominated the Elite legue for a couple years then got signed by Anaheim.

They love their swedes. Drafted Lindholm this past year and also have Rickard Rakell whose gonna be a sick player some day. They also have Max Friberg who dominated the world juniors the year Zib scored the OT winner. Pretty sure he was the only guy with more goals than Stone in that tourney.

This is why I've said before that if we do make a trade for Perry or Ryan we'll almost definitely be sending over Zibanjead. And if Chirp is right with the dollar for dollar thing, then we'd probably have to include Michalek or someone in that range.
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+1 #155 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-07 08:03
So what does everyone think of the new Sens and McDonalds deal? Bye bye pizza line, hello Big Mac's. I guess a Big Mac being offered if the Sens score in the last minute of the 3rd, goes hand in hand with the name Cardiac Kids. Now to find a way to merge those two names, lol
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+1 #156 Tcharger 2013-02-07 08:20
Would much prefer pizza over a big mac...I hate mcdonalds, and although Pizza Pizza isn't the best pizza I would take it 10 times out of 10 over a big mac.

That being said, been to 3 games so far this year and the crowd goes nuts for it in the last minute.

Also I have been sitting in the 300s(which has reiterated my hate for it and the trash that sits up there....Buffal o game I was surrounded by about 30-40 kids in the 2-3 rows around me, awesome they were right into the game.....well until the grotesquely obese trash pile two rows back started yelling fuck every second word). Having sat up there though, it is obvious when the mass exodus starts, immediately after the 50-50 draw happens, maybe they should push the draw back until the very end of the 3rd so we keep the place full.
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-2 #157 senskunk 2013-02-07 08:27
Kind of want a Big Mac right now :roll:
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-7 #158 IcySurfas 2013-02-07 08:57
Quoting Senator Stanley:
Eric Francis talking about Flames need for a goalie with Kipper being injured.

"Still, it's hard to believe the Flames have the appetite or depth to send a second-rounder to Ottawa, which is what the Sens are reportedly asking to replenish the pick they gave the St. Louis Blues to acquire Bishop last year"


"Sens are reportedly asking for...replace 2nd rounder..."?

Where did you get this from? If you want to make something up then man up and say "I speculate...". If you have a legitimate source that backs up what your saying then quote it.

-signed, grumpy as hell this morning.
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0 #159 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-07 09:36
Quoting IcySurfas:
Quoting Senator Stanley:
Eric Francis talking about Flames need for a goalie with Kipper being injured.

"Still, it's hard to believe the Flames have the appetite or depth to send a second-rounder to Ottawa, which is what the Sens are reportedly asking to replenish the pick they gave the St. Louis Blues to acquire Bishop last year"


"Sens are reportedly asking for...replace 2nd rounder..."?

Where did you get this from? If you want to make something up then man up and say "I speculate...". If you have a legitimate source that backs up what your saying then quote it.

-signed, grumpy as hell this morning.


Somebody needs a BigMac...
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+3 #160 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-02-07 09:36
Looking forward to a great game vs Carolina
and hope that Anderson continues his stonewall goaltending !!

Maybe we can see MacLean switch Smith and Da Costa, in order to better evaluate his play on Line 2 vs Line 4 ??

GO SENS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
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+3 #161 Tcharger 2013-02-07 09:43
Can't help but laugh at the fact that Kessel appears to be on the block!
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+1 #162 The Apostle 2013-02-07 09:46
Quoting IcySurfas:
Quoting Senator Stanley:
Eric Francis talking about Flames need for a goalie with Kipper being injured.

"Still, it's hard to believe the Flames have the appetite or depth to send a second-rounder to Ottawa, which is what the Sens are reportedly asking to replenish the pick they gave the St. Louis Blues to acquire Bishop last year"


"Sens are reportedly asking for...replace 2nd rounder..."?

Where did you get this from? If you want to make something up then man up and say "I speculate...". If you have a legitimate source that backs up what your saying then quote it.

-signed, grumpy as hell this morning.



If you are angry because a reporter and/or blogger won't reveal their sources you are going to be angry a lot.
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0 #163 IcySurfas 2013-02-07 09:50
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
Quoting Alcatraz:
Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
[quote name="Alcatraz"][quote name="IcySurfas"]

More or less I guess in terms of our ability to upload/gain access to photos and control

With FB its a network we can tag and add descriptions. Through this site, Chirp would need to administer it much more



Doesn't need to be that advanced could be as simple as a weekly or monthly SensChirp pic, where we just email him and he selects his SensChirp photo of the week or month and puts it up in the photo section for us to see, that would keep it simple enough wouldn't it?


THAT....is a freakin fantastic idea! Chirp...make it happen!
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0 #164 Tookie 2013-02-07 09:56
Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:
Can't help but laugh at the fact that Kessel appears to be on the block!


Kessel is not a bad player man, apart from this year, where he seems to be struggling, he has hit 30+ goals since being with the Laffs, thats an incredible feat in itself. He's never had any help in TO.

I would def take him on my team, I could only imagine what he could have done with Spezza as his #1C.

IF he is indeed being shopped around, I can see BM def being one of several GM's that look into it.
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+2 #165 The Apostle 2013-02-07 09:56
See Schultz scored for the Oilers again last night. Sad to think how close we got to signing him only for him to go elsewhere.

Our blueline would have been set offensively for years.
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+3 #166 The Apostle 2013-02-07 09:57
Quoting Tookie:


IF he is indeed being shopped around, I can see BM def being on of the GM's that look into it.


Yeah but we can't afford to give up 2 firsts and a second for him which is apparently the going rate.
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0 #167 Hax 2013-02-07 09:57
Quoting MethotToMyMadness:
Two trades happened yesterday, both receiving ends get a 5th round pick in return. Lovejoy leaves Pitts for Dallas and Loktionov is leaving LA for the bright lights of Jersey.

Doesn't a 5th seem a little low on both ends? Lovejoy had been a pretty serviceable guy, this year being the exception. Lok on the other hand was an up and coming c with LA, a former 5th rounder himself.

And one last question, where did Fasth come from??


Yeah makes me wonder what we'll get for Lundin at the deadline. Not as worried about Gonchar since he'll have a bigger impact on any team he goes to.

Hopefully Latendresse plays enough and well enough to fetch something at the deadline too (I think it's impossible for him to play well enough to warrant and extension here).
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0 #168 Hax 2013-02-07 09:59
Quoting The Apostle:
Quoting Tookie:


IF he is indeed being shopped around, I can see BM def being on of the GM's that look into it.


Yeah but we can't afford to give up 2 firsts and a second for him which is apparently the going rate.


I agree Kessel is talented and I'm laughing more at the Leafs than Kessel. That being said, I don't want that guy on my team. He doesn't appear to have the kind of heart I'd want a Senator to have.

Though it's nice to dream about him scoring 50 with us after we get him at a bargain from the laffs.
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+1 #169 Tcharger 2013-02-07 10:00
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:
Can't help but laugh at the fact that Kessel appears to be on the block!


Kessel is not a bad player man, apart from this year, where he seems to be struggling, he has hit 30+ goals since being with the Laffs, thats an incredible feat in itself. He's never had any help in TO.

I would def take him on my team, I could only imagine what he could have done with Spezza as his #1C.

IF he is indeed being shopped around, I can see BM def being one of several GM's that look into it.



Oh I don't disagree, but is he worth Seguin, Hamilton, Knight...Absolu tely not...What is kinda funny is my leaf fan friends(Wish that was an oxymoron) justify it by saying the chances that Burke drafted those guys are slim to none and he would have screwed that up too.

I am sure Murray would make a call, but I am comfortable in saying there is zero chance he gets traded here.
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0 #170 Alcatraz 2013-02-07 10:02
Kessel is a good player but I wouldn't want him just because it would take at least a 1st+ and I couldn't help but be angry if the LEafs actually hit a jackpot with that 1st

That being said, Kessel heading West makes most sense and I could see a team like St.Louis actually make a play for him

Ian Cole, TJ Oshie and a 1st

I have a hard time saying no if I'm Nonis
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0 #171 Tookie 2013-02-07 10:03
Quoting The Apostle:
Quoting Tookie:


IF he is indeed being shopped around, I can see BM def being on of the GM's that look into it.


Yeah but we can't afford to give up 2 firsts and a second for him which is apparently the going rate.



Ouch, yeah that seems like alot, maybe 2-3 years ago when he was a bit younger and scoring machine.
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+5 #172 The Apostle 2013-02-07 10:12
What made the Kessel deal so bad for Toronto was what they did or didn't do afterwards. They surrounded the guy with garbage and he still scores 30 a season.

If Burke hadn't of been, well Burkesque and gobbed off to the media about what a great deal it was and we are are now a playoff team they wouldn't have been left looking so assinine.

If you get Kessel for say a 20th overall, a 15th overall and a low second rounder that's a lot more palatable - of course it doesn't help that Boston appears to have drafted well with the picks they got.

Boston knew Kessel didn't fit with what they wanted to do on their roster (ironically becoming the very sort of tem that Burke said he wanted to create in Toronto) and moved him on.

It's Toronto's legacy of sucking that makes this deal so bad, not the deal itself.

Of course, that is also what makes it so hilarious.
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0 #173 Tookie 2013-02-07 10:13
Quoting Alcatraz:
Kessel is a good player but I wouldn't want him just because it would take at least a 1st+ and I couldn't help but be angry if the LEafs actually hit a jackpot with that 1st

That being said, Kessel heading West makes most sense and I could see a team like St.Louis actually make a play for him

Ian Cole, TJ Oshie and a 1st

I have a hard time saying no if I'm Nonis


Yeah I can see him going West, especially the Blues like you say or even LA with Penner and Gagne coming off the books next year.
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+3 #174 Hax 2013-02-07 10:13
The good news about the Kessel thing is that five years from now we'll be able to look back at the trade out of Toronto and it might be even worse than the trade that brought him in.

Imagine if Kessel scores 40 goals a few times with St Louis while the picks Toronto got are used on guys still not in the NHL by then.

A guy can dream.
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0 #175 Tookie 2013-02-07 10:19
Quoting Hax:
The good news about the Kessel thing is that five years from now we'll be able to look back at the trade out of Toronto and it might be even worse than the trade that brought him in.

Imagine if Kessel scores 40 goals a few times with St Louis while the picks Toronto got are used on guys still not in the NHL by then.

A guy can dream.


That could very well happen, hell the Laffs dont have the developmental staff to grow kids into superstars, they go out and get players that are already good and or vets that are still decent.

Its the organizational attitude that sucks, they dont want to rebuild, they got deep pockets and think you can buy a team. And in their case, they dont care as Laffs fans have no clue...
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-1 #176 boom 2013-02-07 10:22
Quoting Tookie:
Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:
Can't help but laugh at the fact that Kessel appears to be on the block!


Kessel is not a bad player man, apart from this year, where he seems to be struggling, he has hit 30+ goals since being with the Laffs, thats an incredible feat in itself. He's never had any help in TO.

I would def take him on my team, I could only imagine what he could have done with Spezza as his #1C.

IF he is indeed being shopped around, I can see BM def being one of several GM's that look into it.

I have never been a fan, but watch him play and then watch Ovechkin play...Kessel looks alot more like a player who is about to bust out with a bunch of goals. He's still getting alot of shots and makes things happen, at least when I see him.
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+1 #177 Hax 2013-02-07 10:23
Ian Mendes ‏@ian_mendes

Forward lines: Zibanejad-Turri s-Alfredsson, Michalek-Smith- Silfverberg, Greening-Regin- Neil, O'Brien-Da Costa-Condra.


I know many will wish to see Da Costa with better players, but JOB and Condra have both been really good so far this year so I think this is a good approach. Let Da Costa play on that line just like they had Zibanejad start low at first.

Ian Mendes ‏@ian_mendes

Here is first rotation of d-pairs: Methot-Karlsson /Lundin-Gonchar /Phillips-Benoi t/Wiercioch-Bor owiecki


I have to assume that Lundin will sit out a game or two and Wiercioch will pair with Gonchar tonight. But when Lundin is ready that might be our top 6 with Boro going down and Wiercioch platooning with Benoit.
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+1 #178 No65* 2013-02-07 10:31
Looking at the D for tonight and it just look like perfect balance of Offense/Defense pairs.

King Karl - Methot
Gonchar - Lundin
Benoit - Phillips

Go SENS Go
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0 #179 Tookie 2013-02-07 10:32
Quoting Hax:
Ian Mendes ‏@ian_mendes

Forward lines: Zibanejad-Turris-Alfredsson, Michalek-Smith-Silfverberg, Greening-Regin-Neil, O'Brien-Da Costa-Condra.



Ian Mendes ‏@ian_mendes

Here is first rotation of d-pairs: Methot-Karlsson/Lundin-Gonchar/Phillips-Benoit/Wiercioch-Borowiecki


Sounds about right Hax, I still dont like Zib on the first line but when the team is successful its easier to justify.

I would have Greening on that top line if only for his presence/room making, nobody on that 1st line can create space.

The D pairings I dont have issues with, they seem to be playing lights out any way they are paired up.
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-1 #180 sens_fan_mtl1 2013-02-07 10:33
Hey Chirp,

Unless I misread Ian Mendes' tweet...it looks like Lundin is paired up with Gonch for tonight...can you confirm...what can we expect from him?
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0 #181 The Apostle 2013-02-07 10:33
I don't know much about Lundin but seeing him paired with Gonchar rather than Phillips seems to indicate he is more of a defensive guy than a point producer.
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+3 #182 No65* 2013-02-07 10:36
I heard from someone close to André Benoit that he was told by Murray to get an appartment as he will stay with the big boys. Very happy for him. Would he become the next coming of Brian Rafalsky? Let's hope so.
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+2 #183 The Apostle 2013-02-07 10:37
Quoting No65*:
I heard from someone close to André Benoit that he was told by Murray to get an appartment as he will stay with the big boys. Very happy for him. Would he become the next coming of Brian Rafalsky? Let's hope so.



The apartment next to mine is up for grabs - I'll send a link to the sens website.
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0 #184 Hax 2013-02-07 10:38
Quoting The Apostle:
I don't know much about Lundin but seeing him paired with Gonchar rather than Phillips seems to indicate he is more of a defensive guy than a point producer.


Lundin won't play tonight folks. He needs a few practices with the team. He's more of a DFD so eventually pairing with Gonch makes sense, but I suspect it won't happen until Saturday at the earliest.
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+3 #185 Hax 2013-02-07 10:39
Quoting No65*:
I heard from someone close to André Benoit that he was told by Murray to get an appartment as he will stay with the big boys. Very happy for him. Would he become the next coming of Brian Rafalsky? Let's hope so.


He would never clear waivers so he'd be staying up even if he wasn't clearly ahead of Boro at this point.

Nice to know we will still have Boro and Gryba on the farm for the future.
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+1 #186 Tookie 2013-02-07 10:40
Quoting Hax:
He doesn't appear to have the kind of heart I'd want a Senator to have.

Though it's nice to dream about him scoring 50 with us after we get him at a bargain from the laffs.


That can easily change Hax, take the Turris trade for instance, here you have a 1st round bust in PHX, spoiled little brat holding out for a new contract and scenery change, when he did play his play was lacklustre and didnt show much heart either.

Then comes a trade to a decent team on the rise and WOW what a difference that makes.

I think Kessel would be out of his mind happy to get out of TO. He's just not complaining and being a Pro about it.

I dont think we will land him but IMO it would be a huge upgrade to our team and Kessel still has atleast 4 years of 30+ goals in him for sure, especially on a offensively minded team like Ottawa.
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+2 #187 The Apostle 2013-02-07 10:43
Quoting Tookie:


I dont think we will land him but IMO it would be a huge upgrade to our team and Kessel still has at least 4 years of 30+ goals in him for sure, especially on a offensively minded team like Ottawa.


I'd swap Kessel for Michalek but I'd ask about swapping him for Latendresse first
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+4 #188 The Apostle 2013-02-07 10:53
Redden should play his 1000th NHL tonight. I hope the Senators have sent some kind of message for any presentation that is happening tonight in St Louis.
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+1 #189 Hax 2013-02-07 11:02
Quoting Hax:
Quoting The Apostle:
I don't know much about Lundin but seeing him paired with Gonchar rather than Phillips seems to indicate he is more of a defensive guy than a point producer.


Lundin won't play tonight folks. He needs a few practices with the team. He's more of a DFD so eventually pairing with Gonch makes sense, but I suspect it won't happen until Saturday at the earliest.


So I'm totally wrong it seems. Lundin to play tonight apparently.

Ian Mendes ‏@ian_mendes

After speaking with Mike Lundin, it sounds like he'll make his Sens debut tonight vs CAR.
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+1 #190 Hax 2013-02-07 11:03
Quoting The Apostle:
Redden should play his 1000th NHL tonight. I hope the Senators have sent some kind of message for any presentation that is happening tonight in St Louis.


I wonder if they'd acknowledge it at SBP tonight as well - wouldn't be surprised if they did.
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+1 #191 The Apostle 2013-02-07 11:05
Quoting Hax:


I wonder if they'd acknowledge it at SBP tonight as well - wouldn't be surprised if they did.



Wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't a message from Alfie in St Louis, we all know the guy has class written through him.

I remember being at the Alfie 1000 game presentation and the crowd went fucking mental when Chara popped up on the screen.
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+1 #192 Hax 2013-02-07 11:07
Quoting The Apostle:
Quoting Hax:


I wonder if they'd acknowledge it at SBP tonight as well - wouldn't be surprised if they did.



Wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't a message from Alfie, we all know the guy has class written through him.

I remember being at the Alfie 1000 game presentation and the crowd went fucking mental when Chara popped up on the screen.


Didn't Redden send his wishes for Phillips 1000th game? I seem to recall a few players doing that and Redden's was funny because he was the only one not wearing team colors.
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0 #193 Tcharger 2013-02-07 11:23
I wouldn't be at all shocked if a lot of the guys send a short msg.
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0 #194 Hax 2013-02-07 11:25
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