Sens Recall Da Costa (Updated)

Monday, 04 February 2013 09:02

Sens Recall Da Costa (Updated)

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(UPDATE 9:31 AM)- According to Corey Pronman on Twitter, the Binghamton Senators have signed defenceman Brett Lebda to a PTO. Lebda has 397 games of NHL experience with the Red Wings, Leafs and Blue Jackets. Sens morning skate comes at 10:15 AM. Game day post will follow shortly after that.

After consecutive losses at the hands of the Carolina Hurricanes and the Montreal Canadiens, the Sens are looking to a Binghamton call up to help spark the offence.

This morning the Senators announced they have called up forward Stephane Da Costa from the AHL Senators. Da Costa has appeared in 31 games with the BSens, racking up 9 goals and 15 assists along the way.

With Jason Spezza sidelined for the next couple months, the Senators are desperate for someone to help fill the void. Peter Regin has been auditioning as the team’s second line centre and has been rather quiet. Da Costa is a player with high end skill that should help generate a little more offence, both at 5 on 5 and on the power play.

Da Costa appeared in 22 games with the Senators last season, scoring three times and picking up five points along the way.

The Sens are scheduled to practice at noon at Scotiabank Place. They take on the Buffalo Sabres tomorrow night.

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+4 #1 hq8 2013-02-04 09:15

Peter Regin has been auditioning as the team’s second line centre and has been rather quiet

completely quiet and rather suffocating.

surprised to see Ron MacLean so high on DaCosta last night. he was adamant against Glenn Healy.

p.s. im still pretty pissed about that waved goal. but we can only imagine how incensed Maclean was because twice he got asked about it and twice he gave the death stare post game.

+3 #2 Dirk Diggler 2013-02-04 09:16

Awesome news for DaCosta. Also, it shows college kids that the Sens will give you an opportunity if you choose to sign with us. Hopefully that translates into more high end prospects looking to sign in Ottawa.

+7 #3 Andrews Theory 2013-02-04 09:24

He certainly can't create less than Regin...talk about being given a chance to resurrect your career and totally blowing it. Outside of killing penalties for the remainder of the year, I'd say its safe to say his NHL career is over.

I wonder if they play DaCosta w Silfverberg given their chemistry in Bingo.

+1 #4 hq8 2013-02-04 09:31

Quoting Andrews Theory:

He certainly can't create less than Regin...talk about being given a chance to resurrect your career and totally blowing it. Outside of killing penalties for the remainder of the year, I'd say its safe to say his NHL career is over.

I wonder if they play DaCosta w Silfverberg given their chemistry in Bingo.

they better. what i liked from silfverberg yesterday was being big and screening Price on that waved goal. argh....seeing how it was a perfect play makes me even more pissed off at the zebras.
and yea Regin blew off his chance atleast for this season for sure with the sens. he blew it off even worse when Silfverberg gave him the perfect pass to blast it on net in the first and he passed it to a backchecking mtl fwd.

that said, i think the sens fwds could afford to be a little more physical on teams that are playing the second of a back to back.

0 #5 conor_smythe 2013-02-04 09:44

Quote:

Peter Regin has been auditioning as the team’s second line centre and has been rather quiet.

Correction: Peter Regin has been auditioning for the part an NHLer for 3 years now.

And has been rather quiet

0 #6 Tcharger 2013-02-04 10:11

Quoting hq8:

[quote name="Andrews Theory"]

that said, i think the sens fwds could afford to be a little more physical on teams that are playing the second of a back to back.

I couldn't believe he passed it back...don't get me wrong I would prefer Silfverberg score as I think he is 100 times the player, but jesus christ dude...shoot the damn puck

+15 #7 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-02-04 10:13

It was very clear to me and many fans, that Price moved out of "blue paint" and bumped Silverberg, not the other way around ??

To refuse a legit goal, and then penalize Silverberg was a blatant injustice, really cost the Senators a true and legit chance at getting back in the game.

Referee In Chief of the NHL, should reprimand the officials for their bad judgement !!

0 #8 CohMa 2013-02-04 10:29

Hey Chirp,
Anymore teasers about what player(s) is being discussed from anaheim?

-4 #9 Hax 2013-02-04 10:29

Like the idea of trying DaCosta - not sold on the kid but he needs to get his shot next.

I still Regin can contribute at some point but he's clearly not ready now.

Wonder what the lines look like at practice? Daugavins and Latendresse as extras maybe? Or send Regin right to the press box?

+1 #10 SensChirp 2013-02-04 10:31

Quoting CohMa:

Hey Chirp,
Anymore teasers about what player(s) is being discussed from anaheim?

There were two parts to yesterday's update that were of equal importance, I think.

The budget part is just as significant as who they may like from Anaheim.

+1 #11 RUSHRLZ 2013-02-04 10:38

Quoting hq8:

that said, i think the sens fwds could afford to be a little more physical on teams that are playing the second of a back to back.

This. From five minutes in I was getting pissed - why were not flying and banging these guys around from the get go is mind boggling to me. Playing a tired team with a lot of small forwards, it should have been a hit parade out there.

Instead I had steam coming out my ears watching our guys seemingly do everything they could not to make a hit or finish a check, except for a brief period in the third where they seemed to realize they needed more physicality. Too little, too late.

The team with the better effort definitely won last night, but hot damn that waived goal call was atrocious. This season to date is the worst officiating I've seen, and while I've seen it in many games, involving the Sens or not, so far this debacle has certainly not been in our favor, quite the opposite.

+8 #12 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2013-02-04 10:39

Anybody still freaking cheesed about the non-goal? I'm still thinking about it............. .... man...

+17 #13 SensChirp 2013-02-04 10:46

Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:

Anybody still freaking cheesed about the non-goal? I'm still thinking about it................. man...

I certainly am. I can stomach a bad penalty call/non call and lord knows there were a few of those but to take away a goal, a point and possibly two from the Sens in a divisional game is inexcusable.

0 #14 Tcharger 2013-02-04 10:47

Quoting SensChirp:

Quoting CohMa:
Hey Chirp,
Anymore teasers about what player(s) is being discussed from anaheim?

There were two parts to yesterday's update that were of equal importance, I think.

The budget part is just as significant as who they may like from Anaheim.

If budget is as important a piece I suspect Cogliano or less likely Palmieri.

0 #15 Hax 2013-02-04 10:49

Quoting SensChirp:

There were two parts to yesterday's update that were of equal importance, I think.

The budget part is just as significant as who they may like from Anaheim.

So Cogs then?

+1 #16 RUSHRLZ 2013-02-04 10:50

Quoting SensChirp:

Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
Anybody still freaking cheesed about the non-goal? I'm still thinking about it................. man...

I certainly am. I can stomach a bad penalty call/non call and lord knows there were a few of those but to take away a goal, a point and possibly two from the Sens in a divisional game is inexcusable.

The ramifications can be massive too. Instead of possibly eking out a win or OT loss, now the squad full well knows they played pretty shitty and blew two winnable games.

Now the sticks start to get squeezed even tighter. It sucks, but I'm hoping we respond well tomorrow... If we play hard and lose I can stomach that a lot easier than the slow disorganized mess we've seen the past two games.

Hopefully we can get out of this Jekyll and Hyde phase and be "All Hyde, All the Time".

+3 #17 CohMa 2013-02-04 10:52

Quoting Hax:

Quoting SensChirp:
There were two parts to yesterday's update that were of equal importance, I think.

The budget part is just as significant as who they may like from Anaheim.

So Cogs then?

But does that really help us?

0 #18 Hax 2013-02-04 10:55

Quoting CohMa:

Quoting Hax:
Quoting SensChirp:
There were two parts to yesterday's update that were of equal importance, I think.

The budget part is just as significant as who they may like from Anaheim.

So Cogs then?

But does that really help us?

Nope (IMO).

I guess he's a good 3C when we're 100% healthy but I don't see him helping a lot now.

0 #19 Patrick 2.0 2013-02-04 10:55

As mentioned above...I'm not 100% sold on costa. Even though he's skilled, he was a little soft last time he auditioned.

But hey, that was a while back, hoping he developped some more in Bingo and its his time for a new audition with P-Mac...it would be nice if he can create something. Maybe pairing him with silfver would be an interesting idea.

0 #20 Tcharger 2013-02-04 10:57

Quoting CohMa:

Quoting Hax:
Quoting SensChirp:
There were two parts to yesterday's update that were of equal importance, I think.

The budget part is just as significant as who they may like from Anaheim.

So Cogs then?

But does that really help us?

Nope, he just really adds to our clog of centers of his skill set.

0 #21 Sensnation 2013-02-04 11:08

Just getting back from a week away and catching up on all I missed. Can't believe we lost Spezza for the year!

So in summary, Regin is who we thought he was, and without Spezza in the lineup this team has trouble scoring.

Damn, it's looking like a good season to try out all these AHL prospects we've been grooming, one or two of them should be able to step in and at least provide some help. Looking forward to an extended audition for Da Costa, he definitely deserves it.

GO SENS GO!!!

0 #22 CohMa 2013-02-04 11:11

Quoting Hax:

Quoting CohMa:
Quoting Hax:
Quoting SensChirp:
There were two parts to yesterday's update that were of equal importance, I think.

The budget part is just as significant as who they may like from Anaheim.

So Cogs then?

But does that really help us?

Nope (IMO).

I guess he's a good 3C when we're 100% healthy but I don't see him helping a lot now.

Even then we have Smith, O'Brien, Zibanejad, maybe Regin, to play 3rd line center. Its gotta be one of the big names otherwise it's not going to be much of an impact.

+3 #23 hq8 2013-02-04 11:23

Quoting Hax:

Quoting SensChirp:
There were two parts to yesterday's update that were of equal importance, I think.

The budget part is just as significant as who they may like from Anaheim.

So Cogs then?

completing 1/3 of the heatley trade - 3 yrs late lol

in seriousness, i dont see why the sens would lace themselves with a younger skilled centreman for what eventually will be a 3C position when spezza returns and turris goes 2C. we have Smith and O'Brien who are more suited to those two bottom C positions.

i feel puzzled with the anaheim trade prospects because I don't see a body on the ducks that would be a fit and an upgrade for the sens other than Ryan.

0 #24 Tcharger 2013-02-04 11:33

Quoting hq8:

Quoting Hax:
Quoting SensChirp:

So Cogs then?

completing 1/3 of the heatley trade - 3 yrs late lol

in seriousness, i dont see why the sens would lace themselves with a younger skilled centreman for what eventually will be a 3C position when spezza returns and turris goes 2C. we have Smith and O'Brien who are more suited to those two bottom C positions.

i feel puzzled with the anaheim trade prospects because I don't see a body on the ducks that would be a fit and an upgrade for the sens other than Ryan.

I would be happy with any of Getzlaf/Perry/R yan...but all three go against Chirps second hint of it still fits in with the budget. Of the three I have a feeling order of contract will be Getzlaf, Perry, Ryan, so reverse the order for likelihood I would assume

+2 #25 SensChirp 2013-02-04 11:36

Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:

Quoting hq8:
Quoting Hax:
Quoting SensChirp:

So Cogs then?

completing 1/3 of the heatley trade - 3 yrs late lol

in seriousness, i dont see why the sens would lace themselves with a younger skilled centreman for what eventually will be a 3C position when spezza returns and turris goes 2C. we have Smith and O'Brien who are more suited to those two bottom C positions.

i feel puzzled with the anaheim trade prospects because I don't see a body on the ducks that would be a fit and an upgrade for the sens other than Ryan.

I would be happy with any of Getzlaf/Perry/Ryan...but all three go against Chirps second hint of it still fits in with the budget. Of the three I have a feeling order of contract will be Getzlaf, Perry, Ryan, so reverse the order for likelihood I would assume

Hmm, maybe that was a little misleading. What I'm trying to say is the budget will impact any move Murray wants to make.

0 #26 Tcharger 2013-02-04 11:37

]Hmm, maybe that was a little misleading. What I'm trying to say is the budget will impact any move Murray wants to make.

so close to equal $

+1 #27 SensChirp 2013-02-04 11:41

Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:

]Hmm, maybe that was a little misleading. What I'm trying to say is the budget will impact any move Murray wants to make.

so close to equal $

Exactly

+1 #28 CohMa 2013-02-04 11:41

Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:

]Hmm, maybe that was a little misleading. What I'm trying to say is the budget will impact any move Murray wants to make.

so close to equal $

Umm... I wonder if Anaheim has a need for an aging Russian defenseman. That would free up a lot of cash. He has had good this year so far and might still have some value to another team.

+1 #29 Tcharger 2013-02-04 11:41

Quoting SensChirp:

Quoting Tcharger-NHL IS A BUSH LEAGUE:
]Hmm, maybe that was a little misleading. What I'm trying to say is the budget will impact any move Murray wants to make.

so close to equal $

Exactly

Ahhh so the speculating can go rampant! (as capgeeks server gets overloaded)

+1 #30 RUSHRLZ 2013-02-04 11:47

Other than addressing their "big two" pending UFAs, I can't see Anaheim wanting to do much else, they are currently sitting in 5th.

So what would it be, a sign and trade of one of those two coming to Ottawa for what? Gonchar or Michalek + prospects?

Anything else, I'm just not seeing much of a fit.

0 #31 CohMa 2013-02-04 11:53

Quoting RUSHRLZ:

Other than addressing their "big two" pending UFAs, I can't see Anaheim wanting to do much else, they are currently sitting in 5th.

So what would it be, a sign and trade of one of those two coming to Ottawa for what? Gonchar or Michalek + prospects?

Anything else, I'm just not seeing much of a fit.

Agreed. And if, in theory, we're looking for a 2C that could potential move to wing once Spezza is back, the only one that fits is Ryan. Perry is a wing and as far as I'm aware has never played C and Getzlaf is a 1C and Turris would have to be bump down to the 3rd or over to the wing. And I don't see that happening.

0 #32 Tcharger 2013-02-04 11:54

Quoting RUSHRLZ:

Other than addressing their "big two" pending UFAs, I can't see Anaheim wanting to do much else, they are currently sitting in 5th.

So what would it be, a sign and trade of one of those two coming to Ottawa for what? Gonchar or Michalek + prospects?

Anything else, I'm just not seeing much of a fit.

I can't see them having interest in Gonchar...only spot I see him being traded to if at all, is Pitts.

Maybe Mickalek+Noeson /Puempel for one of Perry/Getzlaf/Ryan

As much as I am not Michaleks biggest fan, not sure I like something like that. I don't think Getzlaf makes sense....althou gh Spezza 1a, Getzlaf 2b, Turris 2, anyone else as the fourth is unbelievable depth down the middle.

+2 #33 SensChirp 2013-02-04 12:02

Lines from practice

Zibanejad-Turris-Alfredsson
Michalek-Smith-Silfverberg
Greening-Regin-Neil
O’Brien-DaCosta-Condra

+2 #34 Tcharger 2013-02-04 12:03

Quoting SensChirp:

Lines from practice

Zibanejad-Turris-Alfredsson
Michalek-Smith-Silfverberg
Greening-Regin-Neil
O’Brien-DaCosta-Condra

Everything looks alright...excep t for Smith as a #2...ouch

+4 #35 CohMa 2013-02-04 12:04

Quoting SensChirp:

Lines from practice

Zibanejad-Turris-Alfredsson
Michalek-Smith-Silfverberg
Greening-Regin-Neil
O’Brien-DaCosta-Condra

Interesting 2nd and 4th lines... Smith is better then Regin, but I would have thought that they would have tried DaCosta on the 2nd... as I assume everyone else did.

0 #36 Sandy 2013-02-04 12:06

Since they are having trouble scoring, how about if they have a chance to shoot on the net.. they do so instead of passing. Have the other forwards go to the net for rebounds. How many times have some of these forwards decided to pass instead of shoot and the other teams end up intercepting the pass and the Sens get no shot at all...

That happens all the time TO the Sens... how about they start doing it for themselves.

0 #37 CohMa 2013-02-04 12:08

Quoting Sandy:

Since they are having trouble scoring, how about if they have a chance to shoot on the net.. they do so instead of passing. Have the other forwards go to the net for rebounds. How many times have some of these forwards decided to pass instead of shoot and the other teams end up intercepting the pass and the Sens get no shot at all...

That happens all the time TO the Sens... how about they start doing it for themselves.

And that probably why Michalek, Smith, Greening and others aren't scoring. That's how they get most of their goals. Garbage goals around the net.

+1 #38 SensChirp 2013-02-04 12:11

Those lines may be a little off...

@Citizenkwarren

Oops...rushed those lines. Turris is centering a line with Silfverberg-Smi th

+4 #39 The Apostle 2013-02-04 12:12

I know it's a step up, but I've never been a fan of bringing up skilled players from Bingo and then burying them on the 4th line.

It works with JOB and Condra because they aren't skilled players but I'm not convinced we will get the best out of Da Costa playing him on line 4.

Regin is certainly being given every opportunity to prove himself. There must be something that MacLean likes about him.

+1 #40 jakester 2013-02-04 12:12

Da Costa should be on the 2nd line. Zibby moving up in the world(nice).

0 #41 The Apostle 2013-02-04 12:13

Quoting SensChirp:

Those lines may be a little off...

@Citizenkwarren

Oops...rushed those lines. Turris is centering a line with Silfverberg-Smith

Chirp I can't believe you gave out duff info. I'm afraid I'm going to have to report you to the administrator.

I hope you'll take a long look at that post and tell yourself not to post it again.

+4 #42 CohMa 2013-02-04 12:14

Quoting SensChirp:

Those lines may be a little off...

@Citizenkwarren

Oops...rushed those lines. Turris is centering a line with Silfverberg-Smith

That seems even more wrong.... :)

+3 #43 Tcharger 2013-02-04 12:17

So Smith is on the top line then?

Thats even more ykes

0 #44 Andrews Theory 2013-02-04 12:17

My guess is they are nervous about dacosta playing a two way game on the second line.

really, his value is on the second pp unit where regin sucked balls.

i believe ottawa is trying to stay within a budget but let's look at some facts. Ottawa has been in on a number of high priced players recently. I find it hard to believe that the budget is as fixed as we are being led to believe especially given that they need to add salary for next year...

+3 #45 MoeDozer 2013-02-04 12:17

Quoting The Apostle:

Regin is certainly being given every opportunity to prove himself. There must be something that MacLean likes about him.

i will assume he likes regin for his defensive play. Although regin has done squat to produce anything offensively, he can still be trusted on D.

0 #46 Tookie 2013-02-04 12:19

Quoting Andrews Theory:

He certainly can't create less than Regin...talk about being given a chance to resurrect your career and totally blowing it. Outside of killing penalties for the remainder of the year, I'd say its safe to say his NHL career is over.

I wonder if they play DaCosta w Silfverberg given their chemistry in Bingo.

Well theres that right, I mean as of who he is replacing, its a small upgrade from Regin.

+6 #47 SensChirp 2013-02-04 12:19

Quoting The Apostle:

Quoting SensChirp:
Those lines may be a little off...

@Citizenkwarren

Oops...rushed those lines. Turris is centering a line with Silfverberg-Smith

Chirp I can't believe you gave out duff info. I'm afraid I'm going to have to report you to the administrator.

I hope you'll take a long look at that post and tell yourself not to post it again.

I am embarrassed.

Only solution is to shut down the site entirely.

+4 #48 Tcharger 2013-02-04 12:22

I'd love to see this line...as I figure we could see it for years to come

Zibby-Turris-Silfverberg

-4 #49 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-02-04 12:23

So Chirp, are the lines then :

Smith - Turris - Silverberg

Michalek - Da Costa- Alfredsson

Greening - Regin - Neil

O'Brien - Zibanejad - Condra

+2 #50 The Apostle 2013-02-04 12:27

Quoting SensChirp:

Quoting The Apostle:
Quoting SensChirp:
Those lines may be a little off...

@Citizenkwarren

Oops...rushed those lines. Turris is centering a line with Silfverberg-Smith

Chirp I can't believe you gave out duff info. I'm afraid I'm going to have to report you to the administrator.

I hope you'll take a long look at that post and tell yourself not to post it again.

I am embarrassed.

Only solution is to shut down the site entirely.

understand, it's been a good few years though - we should hold a wake

0 #51 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-04 12:28

Da Costa will receive a fine welcome from Sens fans this season. The kid has a lot of talent and has proven his value in the A. The BSens will struggle a lot with him gone which is unfortunate, but the Sens will benefit greatly.

I think a lot of the issues around him in the past were trying to give him a sure spot in a C position. With Spezza gone and Turris as the 1st line C, this is Da Costa's chance to prove his worth and I have a feeling he'll do it. He will have the ability to line up with some very good players and I wouldn't be surprised to see Zib join him on the wing at some point.

Lots of chatter about Milan Michálek, which I guess is warranted considering his lack of production thus far and that he's a $6,000,000 cap hit 2013-14. If there is a chance to trade while he has any stock left, I'd do it. Does MM really fit into Ottawa's long term plans?

+1 #52 MoeDozer 2013-02-04 12:29

Sylvain St-Laurent ‏@Syl_St_Laurent
Les trios:
Zibanejad-Turris-Alfredsson
Michalek-Smith-Silfverberg
Greening-Regin-Neil
O'Brien-Da Costa-Condra

+1 #53 CohMa 2013-02-04 12:30

I think they must be switching the lines up in practice. A number of people tweeting different lines.

0 #54 SensChirp 2013-02-04 12:31

Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:

So Chirp, are the lines then :

Smith - Turris - Silverberg

Michalek - Da Costa- Alfredsson

Greening - Regin - Neil

O'Brien - Zibanejad - Condra

Nope, seems like it's...

Zibanejad-Turris-Alfredsson
Michalek-Smith-Silfverberg
Greening-Regin-Neil
O'Brien-Da Costa-Condra

0 #55 jakester 2013-02-04 12:31

You have to figure Michalek would be in a trade to Anaheim but does it make sense really. A michalek for Ryan doesn't make sense - it would have to be a multi-player deal. Hell doesn't Michalek out point Ryan year after year? They're close anyways.

I think a team like Philly that wants scoring(michale k) might part with a young forward(our rebuild). Or Pitt might part with a young D-man(our rebuild). Its hard to figure out. You have to think that Regin-Latendres se + some of our big money guys (Michalek and Gonchar - although he's a UFA) would be involved.

-2 #56 Tookie 2013-02-04 12:32

Quoting SensChirp:

Lines from practice

Zibanejad-Turris-Alfredsson
Michalek-Smith-Silfverberg
Greening-Regin-Neil
O’Brien-DaCosta-Condra

Yeah that is a bit odd...like Apostle said, why even bring up Da Costa if your gonna play him 6-8 minutes on a 4th line.

These would be my lines...

Michalek Turris Silfverberg
O'Brien/Zib Da Costa Alfie
Zibanejad/JOB Regin Condra
Greening Smith Neil

+1 #57 jakester 2013-02-04 12:35

+ prospects of course.

Murray should try and score young guys like he did with Turris last year. Go after Couturier in Philly.

+2 #58 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-04 12:39

After last nights absolutely fucking ridonkulous penalty and disallowed goal call... What if the Sens miss the playoffs by 1 point... I was honestly expecting BM coming out in the media today and getting fined by the NHL for saying something about that piece of garbage display of reffing last night.

+1 #59 Tookie 2013-02-04 12:48

Quoting The Silfer Surfer:

After last nights absolutely fucking ridonkulous penalty and disallowed goal call... What if the Sens miss the playoffs by 1 point... I was honestly expecting BM coming out in the media today and getting fined by the NHL for saying something about that piece of garbage display of reffing last night.

What would that accomplish? The refs have been calling that in other games aswell, no point in complaining, we dont want that reputation again.

+2 #60 T K 2013-02-04 12:51

Although yesterday's disallowed goal was 100% wrong, I hope that the team doesn't dwell on it. That kind of thing is a mental cancer. We can keep moaning but they need to forget and move on.

+2 #61 Sandy 2013-02-04 12:56

Quoting The Silfer Surfer:

After last nights absolutely fucking ridonkulous penalty and disallowed goal call... What if the Sens miss the playoffs by 1 point... I was honestly expecting BM coming out in the media today and getting fined by the NHL for saying something about that piece of garbage display of reffing last night.

Apparently he was pretty verbal in the elevator at the Bell Centre after the game. Read the Ottawa Sun article.

0 #62 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-04 12:58

Quoting Tookie:

Quoting The Silfer Surfer:
After last nights absolutely fucking ridonkulous penalty and disallowed goal call... What if the Sens miss the playoffs by 1 point... I was honestly expecting BM coming out in the media today and getting fined by the NHL for saying something about that piece of garbage display of reffing last night.

What would that accomplish? The refs have been calling that in other games aswell, no point in complaining, we dont want that reputation again.

Never said it would accomplish anything, just saying I thought BM would come out and say something, I imagine he must have been pretty livid after that call...Anyway, I guess The Stache stare of death sent a pretty clear message of how the Sens felt about that call haha.

+1 #63 Kielbasa 2013-02-04 13:04

It will be nice to see Da Costa back in the lineup again, but I don't think he is going to be the impact player the Sens are hoping for on the 2nd line. I'll eat my socks if he proves me wrong, but Da Costa isn't strong enough to play the required 2nd line skill and intensity. At least not to the expectations everyone is going to have of him.

Right now we have 1 top line with the remaining 3 being a 3-4 combo. I know people on here are calling for Michalek to be traded, but what does that really do to improve our top two lines? It just gives us the same thing we have now which is 1 top line. Until Spezza is back, this is the reality of our team.

As long as everyone plays a solid 60 mins and manages to pull out some wins in the process, I'm happy. But trading without improving more than 1 line is a little pointless in my opinion.

+5 #64 A Train 2013-02-04 13:04

Here's my speculation on the Ducks trade:

Anaheim wants Anderson + some prospects/picks for one of Perry/Getzlaf/Ryan.

Bryan Murray liked the idea going into the shortened season, especially with Lehner/Bishop looking like they might be able to take over with Ottawa.

That's what the 3 goalies situation was all about. Murray was ready to pull the trigger on said deal but Anderson's INSANE play has forced him to wait.

Just speculation, but fun.

+1 #65 CohMa 2013-02-04 13:07

[quote name="Kielbasa" ]It will be nice to see Da Costa back in the lineup again, but I don't think he is going to be the impact player the Sens are hoping for on the 2nd line. I'll eat my socks if he proves me wrong, but Da Costa isn't strong enough to play the required 2nd line skill and intensity. At least not to the expectations everyone is going to have of him. quote]

I don't think anyone really thinks DaCosta will have a big impact. I think they hope that maybe he and others can weather storm until Spezza is back.

+1 #66 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-02-04 13:10

Quoting A Train:

Here's my speculation on the Ducks trade:

Anaheim wants Anderson + some prospects/picks for one of Perry/Getzlaf/Ryan.

Bryan Murray liked the idea going into the shortened season, especially with Lehner/Bishop looking like they might be able to take over with Ottawa.

That's what the 3 goalies situation was all about. Murray was ready to pull the trigger on said deal but Anderson's INSANE play has forced him to wait.

Just speculation, but fun.

Nice speculation on your part !

Noway that Anderson is traded, with the amazing way he has us winning games.

We will get out of this situation, and it will get better, once our forwards start scoring goals once again.

Anderson is a WALL !!

-1 #67 Dirk Diggler 2013-02-04 13:20

Would anyone be open to trading for Tyler myers? He is coming off a down year and is also playing crap this year but he could be a force in Ottawa alongside Karlsson.

0 #68 thepez 2013-02-04 13:22

The Senators keep talking about the big picture and coach Mac has said on many occasions that we are only in year 2 of a 3 year re-build. So would not count out the possibility that Anderson is traded at some time during or after the season. If the plan is that Lehner and Bishop is what the Sens want moving ahead, then trading Anderson at a high is the right thing to do. As well as he is playing right now, Anderson would bring back at least a top six forward or a top 4 d-man as part of the package.

I'm not saying I want the guy to be traded, but if you look at the big picture then maybe it's the snart thing to do.

+2 #69 Boivo 2013-02-04 13:24

This Ducks trade speculation is killing me. JUST TELL US CHIRP

0 #70 SensChirp 2013-02-04 13:33

Quoting Boivo:

This Ducks trade speculation is killing me. JUST TELL US CHIRP

Have emphasized that it's not something imminent so certainly not worth getting overly excited about at this point.

Again, the important part of the update was the budget business which in my opinion, really wasn't the best news.

+3 #71 Boivo 2013-02-04 13:36

If it wasnt worth getting overly excited about at this point then why the hell tell us! lol its like telling a child about sex and how wicked awesome it is, then saying well its not somehting imminent for you sooooo dont get too excited. Seriously lol

0 #72 Kielbasa 2013-02-04 13:38

Quoting SensChirp:

Quoting Boivo:
This Ducks trade speculation is killing me. JUST TELL US CHIRP

Have emphasized that it's not something imminent so certainly not worth getting overly excited about at this point.

Again, the important part of the update was the budget business which in my opinion, really wasn't the best news.

Defintely disheartening to think that Murray has to be kept on a tight leash to run this team.

0 #73 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-02-04 13:42

Quoting SensChirp:

Quoting Boivo:
This Ducks trade speculation is killing me. JUST TELL US CHIRP

Have emphasized that it's not something imminent so certainly not worth getting overly excited about at this point.

Again, the important part of the update was the budget business which in my opinion, really wasn't the best news.

Also, last year, it was because Melnyk said, we will not be trading because of team BUDGET , and it is the same situation again.

NO MAJOR BIG DEAL FOR NOW !!

0 #74 Boivo 2013-02-04 13:54

Although the sens did prove that Melnyk is willing to spend the money for an elite player when we were in the hunt for Nash. I think Ryan would have to be the player that Murrs is interested in. He was back in the summer and really is now.

0 #75 Tcharger 2013-02-04 13:59

I have been saying all along I wanted Ryan, I think I would absolutely lose my mind if the deal happened

0 #76 CohMa 2013-02-04 14:01

Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:

Quoting SensChirp:
Quoting Boivo:
This Ducks trade speculation is killing me. JUST TELL US CHIRP

Have emphasized that it's not something imminent so certainly not worth getting overly excited about at this point.

Again, the important part of the update was the budget business which in my opinion, really wasn't the best news.

Also, last year, it was because Melnyk said, we will not be trading because of team BUDGET , and it is the same situation again.

NO MAJOR BIG DEAL FOR NOW !!

But remember this is the same owner that really wanted Rick Nash..... He'll spend for the right player.

Just realized someone else just said that...

0 #77 SensChirp 2013-02-04 14:07

Quoting sg21:

Chirp,

Any news on Lundins timeline for return and how Cowen is doing?

Lundin should be about a week away but still not practicing with the team. No update on Cowen but I did see him on the concourse at a game recently and he seemed to be walking just fine.

Still considered a season ending injury though.

+1 #78 Hax 2013-02-04 14:15

Quoting SensChirp:

Quoting sg21:
Chirp,

Any news on Lundins timeline for return and how Cowen is doing?

Lundin should be about a week away but still not practicing with the team. No update on Cowen but I did see him on the concourse at a game recently and he seemed to be walking just fine.

Still considered a season ending injury though.

I wonder if Cowen being shut down for the year is more about not wanting to hurt him long-term. Perhaps he could play near the end of the year but they figure it's not worth risking aggravating the injury?

0 #79 MoeDozer 2013-02-04 14:18

Chirp, and you hear anything about how serious latendresse injury is?

+13 #80 CohMa 2013-02-04 14:21

Quoting MoeDozer:

Chirp, and you hear anything about how serious latendresse injury is?

I hear laziness is a career ending injury.

0 #81 FBP 2013-02-04 14:23

We're trade rumour hungry.

Sounds like Melnyk is putting the stop to something. Probably Perry at 9 mil for 8 years.

+2 #82 The Apostle 2013-02-04 14:23

Quoting CohMa:

Quoting MoeDozer:
Chirp, and you hear anything about how serious latendresse injury is?

I hear laziness is a career ending injury.

Unless you wear #27

-1 #83 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2013-02-04 14:26

Quoting CohMa:

Quoting MoeDozer:
Chirp, and you hear anything about how serious latendresse injury is?

I hear laziness is a career ending injury.

Lol so true. This guy is a waste

-3 #84 CohMa 2013-02-04 14:26

Quoting The Apostle:

Quoting CohMa:
Quoting MoeDozer:
Chirp, and you hear anything about how serious latendresse injury is?

I hear laziness is a career ending injury.

Unless you wear #27

Honestly, I'd take Kovalev over Latendresse. At least he can keep the puck on his stick.

+2 #85 Tcharger 2013-02-04 14:31

Quoting FBP:

We're trade rumour hungry.

Sounds like Melnyk is putting the stop to something. Probably Perry at 9 mil for 8 years.

God no, WAY too high

+1 #86 SensChirp 2013-02-04 14:34

Quoting MoeDozer:

Chirp, and you hear anything about how serious latendresse injury is?

Such a strange one. Can tell you whatever it is, it's certainly more serious than the flu.

+1 #87 Tcharger 2013-02-04 14:41

Quoting MoeDozer:

Chirp, and you hear anything about how serious latendresse injury is?

Yeah he woke up

+5 #88 RUSHRLZ 2013-02-04 14:42

Quoting Boivo:

If it wasnt worth getting overly excited about at this point then why the hell tell us! lol its like telling a child about sex and how wicked awesome it is, then saying well its not somehting imminent for you sooooo dont get too excited. Seriously lol

WTF kind of analogy is that? Jesus.

-1 #89 Boivo 2013-02-04 14:54

Here is what I am thinking...Ryan for Michalek and Smith. Maybe Regin was hoped to play well and he could have been part of the deal. But I think this makes sense both in the budget issue and with the needs of both teams. Now........comm ent.

+9 #90 Sens of Peskyville 2013-02-04 14:56

Quoting RUSHRLZ:

Quoting Boivo:
If it wasnt worth getting overly excited about at this point then why the hell tell us! lol its like telling a child about sex and how wicked awesome it is, then saying well its not somehting imminent for you sooooo dont get too excited. Seriously lol

WTF kind of analogy is that? Jesus.

I'm guessing he's 6 and just got told about sex...

+1 #91 Boivo 2013-02-04 15:04

that's it, you got it

+5 #92 C.J. 2013-02-04 15:05

You know I must admit the thought of trading Anderson while he is hot never crossed my mind, but it really doesn't seem that farfetchd.

Think about it, Lehner gets to be a starter in the NHL (IMO hes already proven he can be an NHL goalie, and he seems to thrive under pressure) then we can keep Bishop and have two goalies pushing each other to be better.

In return for Anderson we could get a legit top line forward to lace up with Spezz or Turris for now. Then we dont have to lose either of our great goalie prospects and were left with a win win situation.

Make a push for the playoffs and build confidence for a young rebuilding team, or tank it and get a really good pick in the deepest draft in a while.

If Murray feels this is the route to go, I fully endorse it.

-3 #93 Tcharger 2013-02-04 15:08

Quoting C.J.:

You know I must admit the thought of trading Anderson while he is hot never crossed my mind, but it really doesn't seem that farfetchd.

Think about it, Lehner gets to be a starter in the NHL (IMO hes already proven he can be an NHL goalie, and he seems to thrive under pressure) then we can keep Bishop and have two goalies pushing each other to be better.

In return for Anderson we could get a legit top line forward to lace up with Spezz or Turris for now. Then we dont have to lose either of our great goalie prospects and were left with a win win situation.

Make a push for the playoffs and build confidence for a young rebuilding team, or tank it and get a really good pick in the deepest draft in a while.

If Murray feels this is the route to go, I fully endorse it.

Be prepared to be torn apart...any time this has been suggested the wolves come out in full force.

+1 #94 C.J. 2013-02-04 15:08

To me this move doesnt make a whole lot of sense and I don't see why the sens would part ways with Zach Smith, to me he's the ideal third line center. Also I dont know how I would feel about Michalek in a trade for Ryan, doesnt really add any value to our team they play very similar games.

Quoting Boivo:

Here is what I am thinking...Ryan for Michalek and Smith. Maybe Regin was hoped to play well and he could have been part of the deal. But I think this makes sense both in the budget issue and with the needs of both teams. Now........comment.

+1 #95 C.J. 2013-02-04 15:11

@Tcharger

I'm kinda waiting for it haha. And I don't want anyone to get the impression that I don't like Anderson, I love that guy. But IMO Lehner>Anderson

+6 #96 Tcharger 2013-02-04 15:12

Ryan is younger....has 4 30 goal seasons, michalek has 1.

Michalek misses games due to injury annually....Rya n doesn't.

Definitely a big upgrade.

0 #97 CohMa 2013-02-04 15:18

Quoting SensChirp:

Quoting MoeDozer:
Chirp, and you hear anything about how serious latendresse injury is?

Such a strange one. Can tell you whatever it is, it's certainly more serious than the flu.

Bruce Garrioch "Latendresse has re-occurring whiplash effects from game in Montreal"

I guess from the couple body checks he threw..? It definitely wasn't from a high speed collision...

But with his history of concussions, its not a good sign for his career.

+7 #98 RUSHRLZ 2013-02-04 15:32

This team has weak D and question marks so far lighting the lamp.

We were hoping between the youth + Regin/Latts that scoring would be addressed.

Youth looks promising, however Regin and Latts have been struggling so far and now Spezz is out for the season.

Other than a hot goaltender, this is not a line-up looking like a contender at this point. Probably next season we will lose Alfie.

It's a critical year of the rebuild. I am a huge Anderson fan, but we need to think hard about the future here. Is Lehner ready to dominate in the NHL in the next couple seasons? Does Michalek fit into the picture 2 years from now and if not what would the return be for him/Andy/Gonch and how would this position us next year when we should have Cowen - Spezz back + more prospects ready (Stone)?

Maybe the time is right to try and get that elite top line guy in here long term but at what price?

Build for the future. In Murray we Trust.

-5 #99 Boivo 2013-02-04 15:47

Finally

+3 #100 Andrews Theory 2013-02-04 16:09

hard to talk sell off when you are competing night in and night out but does this team have the horses to make a playoff run realistically?

I'd be ok with doing one last "sell off" to complete the necessary pieces for years with a high octane team.

I like Anderson as much as anybody but the return for him at this point would be higher than at any other point.

imagine what you could get for moving out gonchar, anderson and michalek not to mention the inevitable high pick in this summers draft.

you then also have the flexibility to add some veteran peices over the summer with the gobs of cap space available.

0 #101 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-04 16:21

Quoting riceroni:

Would anyone be open to trading for Tyler myers? He is coming off a down year and is also playing crap this year but he could be a force in Ottawa alongside Karlsson.

It's funny you bring up Myers, his name floated around some of the Buffalo boards about being moved awhile back, which is crazy, but that's what happens when production drops and expectations aren't met. We've all seen that happen here.

He really reminds me of a young Chara and we know how NYI moved him to Ottawa, could you imagine Buffalo making the same mistake? I think we all know it wouldn't happen, but could you imagine that?

+7 #102 chadillac 2013-02-04 16:26

We lose two games and everyone wants to sell, sell, sell...

If Murray can make this team better, then great make a trade. If a player like Perry wants top-end salary, he won't be a fit in Ottawa. We want guys that want to play here for a winner, not for $$$. I'm not blaming Perry, but Ottawa can't afford to throw money at players. It will get us into trouble later on.

+4 #103 hq8 2013-02-04 16:45

wow.....some interesting trades being thrown around the sens version of trade-fantasy-centre.

first off, Z. Smith is on the 2nd line because of his FO% - he is better than Turris this year at a whopping 56%. Just below Spezza. Mr. Regin on the other hand lacks in this key stat for a 2C - meagre 41%. pretty much all the forwards the sens have that have taken faceoffs are better than Regin.

which then leads me to say why the hell do people here want to trade Zack Smith?
one of the most illogical moves for ottawa will be trading Z. Smith - he is Chris Neil's replacement and upgrade.

Tyler Myers may have won a calder and is perceived to be good, but i think we have no need for him with the likes of Karlsson, Cowen and eventually Ceci. He can keep the Calder and shine it, we already got the norris.

i see some people suggested to miss the playoffs by doing a sell-off? sell what exactly? seriously? #facepalm

-5 #104 hq8 2013-02-04 16:54

so anaheim has 15 forwards on roster - out of which 6 are centremen. i wont go through all but:
Getzlaf = untouchable, not going anywhere.
Perry = too expensive, probably stays in ANA.
Ryan = maybe gets traded. probably available for right deal.
onto the remaining 5 centremen:
Koivu = probably gets traded - UFA for 13-14
Winnik = will stay with ANA - too productive
Cogliano = part of every trade discussed, but would you take him?
Peter Holland = he is their 09 1st rd pick - 15th ovrall. not going anywhere
Nick Bonino = probably is not going to get traded as he is their prospect.

so its either Koivu or Cogs. noone wants Cogs. That leaves koivu and the wildcard in Ryan. Koivu can be easily extracted im sure, but Ryan - the ducks will drive the price high. im not sure sens want to give much of what everyone else wants - the sens deep prospect pool.

it doesnt make sense to me to trade any of our prospects right now.

0 #105 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-04 17:14

You can bet that if Anaheim is indeed talking with Ottawa about a move, it involves Ottawa taking someone from the roster in a way that helps them, in turn gives us quick relief in Spezza's absence.

Koivu is the only one that meets the criteria. He's an upcoming UFA and will more than likely just walk to whomever signs him, so Anaheim will look to get something, even if it's a 3rd round pick in the draft. It's more about a contract relief than anything and Koivu would be a great short term 2nd C, with no problem playing 3rd or 4th down the road for Ottawa to finish out the year.

-24 #106 CarloswSPECR1 2013-02-04 17:16

I'm gonna get hated for this, but I'm gonna guess Bobby Ryan + Daniel Winnick for Jason Spezza.

I hope not.

Simillar money going back and forth, and almost the same term.

But, Spezza has a NTC (Thank you Murray!)

+4 #107 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-04 17:21

Quoting CarloswSPECR1:

I'm gonna get hated for this, but I'm gonna guess Bobby Ryan + Daniel Winnick for Jason Spezza.

I hope not.

Simillar money going back and forth, and almost the same term.

But, Spezza has a NTC (Thank you Murray!)

Why on earth would that be your guess?? Spezza isn't going anywhere lol teams don't trade their first line center unless he can be replaced easily within the system. Nobody can replace Spezza.

+2 #108 hq8 2013-02-04 17:23

no winnik is not trade bait in Anaheim....and why would you suggest it when you dont want it and you also know it will never ever happen.

-9 #109 CarloswSPECR1 2013-02-04 17:26

Quoting AlfieforMayor11:

Why on earth would that be your guess?? Spezza isn't going anywhere lol teams don't trade their first line center' unless they can be replaced easily within the system. Nobody can replace Spezza.

I don't want it to happen, but if we're talking about money for money, term for term, that was the trade that made sense to me.

Would Koivu be an upgrade over Turris/Smith on the 2C role? or First?

Plus you have to give back 3.8 Mil to Anaheim.

+7 #110 Boivo 2013-02-04 17:28

There is no way in hell Murrs grabs us Koivu. Doesn't fit in ottawas system or rebuild.

+1 #111 Sensnation 2013-02-04 17:32

Quoting Boivo:

There is no way in hell Murrs grabs us Koivu. Doesn't fit in ottawas system or rebuild.

Completely agreed! It would be a short term rental at best and would cost an asset. Unless they want Regin straight up for them (Koivu or Cogliano), it makes no sense for the Sens or the Ducks.

+1 #112 MoeDozer 2013-02-04 17:34

we are now 12th in the league in goals for per game at 2.78 with tampa leading it with an incredible 4.88
2nd in the league in goals against (thanks to andy and some pretty good work by the D) with a 1.67 only behind the sharks that have a 1.62

7th best PP with a 25.8%
4th in PK with 90.0%

4th in shots per game 33.2
23rd shots against 31.3 (need to work on this category to help andy out)

+2 #113 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-04 17:37

Quoting CarloswSPECR1:

I don't want it to happen, but if we're talking about money for money, term for term, that was the trade that made sense to me.

Would Koivu be an upgrade over Turris/Smith on the 2C role? or First?

Plus you have to give back 3.8 Mil to Anaheim.

Money for money the trade that makes the absolute most sense to me is Michalek+ for one of Perry or Ryan. There really isn't another deal that could make sense.

Koivu carries a 3.8 mill price tag (3 mill in salary, 800000 in bonuses) and has a full no movement clause. I don't think he's going to waive his NTC and leave his best buddy Teemu to come play here when his team is having some success where he is now. Then theres the fact that Murray is smart enough to not trade any significant assets away for for a 38 y/o soon to be free agent

0 #114 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-04 17:39

Chirp can you please just tell us if Murray is trying to acquire a forward or dman (or both) from Anaheim. You don't have to give us names but we all know that you know lol throw us a bone here so we can all speculate

-1 #115 hq8 2013-02-04 17:42

Quoting AlfieforMayor11:

Quoting CarloswSPECR1:

I don't want it to happen, but if we're talking about money for money, term for term, that was the trade that made sense to me.

Would Koivu be an upgrade over Turris/Smith on the 2C role? or First?

Plus you have to give back 3.8 Mil to Anaheim.

Money for money the trade that makes the absolute most sense to me is Michalek+ for one of Perry or Ryan. There really isn't another deal that could make sense.

Koivu carries a 3.8 mill price tag (3 mill in salary, 800000 in bonuses) ........

which is why this has something to do with Bobby Ryan - because Perry will demand stratospheric salary.

-2 #116 Boivo 2013-02-04 17:44

I can't see it being a D. It has to be ryan or perry and I can see both. Perry is a local boy and we all know that Murrs loves his local talent and Ryan really fits with the rebuild and would be an impact player right away.

-1 #117 hq8 2013-02-04 17:44

Quoting AlfieforMayor11:

Chirp can you please just tell us if Murray is trying to acquire a forward or dman (or both) from Anaheim. You don't have to give us names but we all know that you know lol throw us a bone here so we can all speculate

disagree. i think some speculators here go nuts. e.g. spezza for ryan+winnick. although its fun to talk possibilities and grind the neurons for it, it always becomes too wishy-washy rose-eyed fantasising well beyond what real facts would allow.

+3 #118 The Apostle 2013-02-04 17:49

[quote name="AlfieforMayor11
Money for money the trade that makes the absolute most sense to me is Michalek+ for one of Perry or Ryan. There really isn't another deal that could make sense.

Either of those represent an upgrade on Michalek but we would still be left in the situation of only having one genuine top 6 winger.

+1 #119 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-04 17:52

Quoting Sensnation:

Quoting Boivo:
There is no way in hell Murrs grabs us Koivu. Doesn't fit in ottawas system or rebuild.

Completely agreed! It would be a short term rental at best and would cost an asset. Unless they want Regin straight up for them (Koivu or Cogliano), it makes no sense for the Sens or the Ducks.

I would never consider him part of a rebuild, that's just dumb. But as a stop gap center on a team that needs experience in that position for the next two months (maybe more), it makes sense. He's also on fire with 8 pts in his last 7 games so the Ducks could be selling high. I wouldn't expect BM to trade current assets though, it would be a late round pick or something.

+2 #120 MoeDozer 2013-02-04 17:52

id lean more that it is ryan than perry. perry is better and has won both the Hart and rocket richard trophy. his value is still very high even after coming off somewhat (37goal) of a dissapointing season for him.
either way both are consistent all-star level top liners.

unless of course we are throwing a package that involves more than michalek and one of our higher ranked prospects

0 #121 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-04 18:01

Quoting MoeDozer:

id lean more that it is ryan than perry. perry is better and has won both the Hart and rocket richard trophy. his value is still very high even after coming off somewhat (37goal) of a dissapointing season for him.
either way both are consistent all-star level top liners.

unless of course we are throwing a package that involves more than michalek and one of our higher ranked prospects

I would tend to agree with you but what if there's something we don't know? Maybe Perry has informed Anaheim management that he's not keen on resigning there? Maybe he wants to test free agency this summer or maybe he wants to move closer to his home town of Peterborough? Who knows, but I agree that Ryan is the more likely candidate, even though Bob Murray informed him that he isn't on the trade market (not that that means very much).

+3 #122 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-04 18:09

The thing is if it is indeed Michalek+ for Perry or Ryan, what could that + be? The thought of it being Silfverberg or Zibanejad really scares me. Not to be a massive homer but I really do think those two will be very good top six forwards for us for years to come.

-3 #123 jakester 2013-02-04 18:18

The idea of trading high is always smart. I hadn't really thought of the Sens trading Andy but it could be a smart move. Lots of teams would jump at it, Philly,Chicago, Toronto(god forbid),etc etc. Don't know if Anaheim needs a goalie but their GM needs to save his own ass(job on the line). Andy in a package could get you a top 6 guy and a D-man.

+1 #124 NadislavLagy 2013-02-04 19:40

FWIW, not that it's any surprise to Sens fans, Kerry Fraser disagrees with the disallowed goal on sunday afternoon. He said he would have allowed it.

Just so frustrating that it was not even reviewable. People getting into a debate about poor calls in general, but there's a huge difference between a good goal that is disallowed from a bad call vs. a marginally bad call resulting in a 2 min minor that the team can at least try to kill.

0 #125 jakester 2013-02-04 20:20

I've been thinking about it - if we're looking at getting someone from Anaheim I hope it's Getzlaf. What a 1-2 punch we could potentially have. TUrris could be turned into that sniper winger.

Imagine

Alfie-Spezza-TUrris
Zibby-Getzlaf-Silfverberg
Greening-Smith-Neil
Hoffman-O'Brien-Condra

For the start of the playoffs.

Michalek ++ just make it happen.

0 #126 jakester 2013-02-04 20:22

Getzlaf could lean on cry baby Crosby in the playoffs - the Sens would be a physically tough team to play against.

-2 #127 jakester 2013-02-04 20:48

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow44CAW0apg&feature=related

I can see him in sens uniform.

0 #128 hq8 2013-02-04 21:16

Quoting jakester:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow44CAW0apg&feature=related

I can see him in sens uniform.

while we can agree that getzlaf surely would make the sens destructive to say the least, i think you are being a little delusional.

and again for the umpteenth time, grasp it - getzlaf will not leave anahiem and if he does, ottawa is not where he will come.

someone else suggested Perry might like to come to canada to be close to Peterborough... .tell me of one Canadian-born and bred hockey player who has left his U.S NHL franchise to come back and play in Canada? ZIPPO.

0 #129 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-02-04 21:30

Quoting hq8:

Quoting jakester:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow44CAW0apg&feature=related

I can see him in sens uniform.

while we can agree that getzlaf surely would make the sens destructive to say the least, i think you are being a little delusional.

and again for the umpteenth time, grasp it - getzlaf will not leave anahiem and if he does, ottawa is not where he will come.

someone else suggested Perry might like to come to canada to be close to Peterborough....tell me of one Canadian-born and bred hockey player who has left his U.S NHL franchise to come back and play in Canada? ZIPPO.

The only one Canadian born player that l
can think of that left a US NHL franchise to come back and play in Canada was the great Bobby Hull with Chicago Blackhawks and the Winnipeg Jets.
Red Kelly of Detroit and the Toronto Maple Leafs !

0 #130 hq8 2013-02-04 21:35

Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:

Quoting hq8:
Quoting jakester:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow44CAW0apg&feature=related

I can see him in sens uniform.

while we can agree that getzlaf surely would make the sens destructive to say the least, i think you are being a little delusional.

and again for the umpteenth time, grasp it - getzlaf will not leave anahiem and if he does, ottawa is not where he will come.

someone else suggested Perry might like to come to canada to be close to Peterborough....tell me of one Canadian-born and bred hockey player who has left his U.S NHL franchise to come back and play in Canada? ZIPPO.

The only one Canadian born player that l
can think of that left a US NHL franchise to come back and play in Canada was the great Bobby Hull with Chicago Blackhawks and the Winnipeg Jets.
Red Kelly of Detroit and the Toronto Maple Leafs !

indeed & how far back was that?

0 #131 DenisVial 2013-02-04 21:36

Quoting hq8:

[quote name="jakester"]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow44CAW0apg&feature=related

someone else suggested Perry might like to come to canada to be close to Peterborough....tell me of one Canadian-born and bred hockey player who has left his U.S NHL franchise to come back and play in Canada? ZIPPO.

Gary Roberts
Joe Nieuwendyk
Steve Thomas
Trevor Linden
Alex Tanguay
Ryan Smyth begging to come back

And I'm sure there are many more. Getzlaf is established with a wife and kids in Anaheim. I could see Perry testing free agency, while Getzkaf may take a hometown discount to stay in Anaheim.

0 #132 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-04 21:42

Quoting DenisVial:

Quoting hq8:
[quote name="jakester"]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow44CAW0apg&feature=related

someone else suggested Perry might like to come to canada to be close to Peterborough....tell me of one Canadian-born and bred hockey player who has left his U.S NHL franchise to come back and play in Canada? ZIPPO.

Gary Roberts
Joe Nieuwendyk
Steve Thomas
Trevor Linden
Alex Tanguay
Ryan Smyth begging to come back

And I'm sure there are many more. Getzlaf is established with a wife and kids in Anaheim. I could see Perry testing free agency, while Getzkaf may take a hometown discount to stay in Anaheim.

I was in the midst of writing this exact same comment when I saw you beat me to it. Is Perry a good old Canadian boy or is he a prima Donna bitch ass like Heatley or Nash?

0 #133 SNOOPY SENIOR 2013-02-04 21:42

Quoting DenisVial:

Quoting hq8:
[quote name="jakester"]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow44CAW0apg&feature=related

someone else suggested Perry might like to come to canada to be close to Peterborough....tell me of one Canadian-born and bred hockey player who has left his U.S NHL franchise to come back and play in Canada? ZIPPO.

Gary Roberts
Joe Nieuwendyk
Steve Thomas
Trevor Linden
Alex Tanguay
Ryan Smyth begging to come back

And I'm sure there are many more. Getzlaf is established with a wife and kids in Anaheim. I could see Perry testing free agency, while Getzkaf may take a hometown discount to stay in Anaheim.

Mine were from the 6 team era and later the WHA.

Denis Vial's are from a more recent era !!

Which makes a lot more than ZIPPO !!

0 #134 Sensfan1741 2013-02-04 21:44

I find Regin absolutely useless. Doesn't play the body, bring energy, or create chances. I understand not everyone is a 30 goal scorer, but he simply brings nothing to the table. Time to let the younger guys take his spot

0 #135 hq8 2013-02-04 21:44

Quoting DenisVial:

Quoting hq8:
[quote name="jakester"]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow44CAW0apg&feature=related

someone else suggested Perry might like to come to canada to be close to Peterborough....tell me of one Canadian-born and bred hockey player who has left his U.S NHL franchise to come back and play in Canada? ZIPPO.

Gary Roberts
Joe Nieuwendyk
Steve Thomas
Trevor Linden
Alex Tanguay
Ryan Smyth begging to come back

And I'm sure there are many more. Getzlaf is established with a wife and kids in Anaheim. I could see Perry testing free agency, while Getzkaf may take a hometown discount to stay in Anaheim.

ok ok i get it - it was a short-sighted statement. however its a much rarer occurence now - especially with top players demanding huge salaries.

0 #136 hq8 2013-02-04 21:47

anyways...i dont see sens getting getzlaf or perry. ryan - maybe and probably more likely.
in other news im exciting to see DaCosta on the PP especially. I remember last year when him and Karlsson connected on the PP in that 1st or 2nd game against the leafs. Kid can definitely handle the puck and has shown chemistry with zib and silf.

0 #137 DenisVial 2013-02-04 22:08

Quoting hq8:

anyways...i dont see sens getting getzlaf or perry. ryan - maybe and probably more likely.
in other news im exciting to see DaCosta on the PP especially. I remember last year when him and Karlsson connected on the PP in that 1st or 2nd game against the leafs. Kid can definitely handle the puck and has shown chemistry with zib and silf.

In the grand scheme of things, there has never been much "star player" movement when you consider how many players are in the league. Just last summer, Suter and Parise were the only big fish that moved on, and often when a big name changes teams, it's as their career is winding down, ie. Bourque, Roberts and most likely Iginla in a few months. If Perry wants to sign with a contender with cap space, then Ottawa is one of only 5 or 6 teams he could sign with this summer. Never say never.

0 #138 hq8 2013-02-04 22:26

Quoting DenisVial:

Quoting hq8:
anyways...i dont see sens getting getzlaf or perry. ryan - maybe and probably more likely.
in other news im exciting to see DaCosta on the PP especially. I remember last year when him and Karlsson connected on the PP in that 1st or 2nd game against the leafs. Kid can definitely handle the puck and has shown chemistry with zib and silf.

In the grand scheme of things, there has never been much "star player" movement when you consider how many players are in the league. ...

yes but would it be wise to trade for him and then sign? would cost the sens this years first rounder

-12 #139 Scally 2013-02-04 22:33

Actually... looking at Anaheim's lineup and the salary as hinted by Chirp... would it be possible that BM is looking at Palmieri? We're currently strong at C, so a RW with a great shot might just fit the bill.

Maybe a Silfverberg + Bishop for Palmieri deal? Both make about the same (1M vs .9M) and both are on the last year of the contract...

0 #140 DenisVial 2013-02-04 22:34

Quoting hq8:

Quoting DenisVial:
Quoting hq8:
anyways...i dont see sens getting getzlaf or perry. ryan - maybe and probably more likely.
in other news im exciting to see DaCosta on the PP especially. I remember last year when him and Karlsson connected on the PP in that 1st or 2nd game against the leafs. Kid can definitely handle the puck and has shown chemistry with zib and silf.

In the grand scheme of things, there has never been much "star player" movement when you consider how many players are in the league. ...

yes but would it be wise to trade for him and then sign? would cost the sens this years first rounder

Only if it were a sign and trade. Take him off the market before he gets to UFA.

0 #141 hq8 2013-02-04 22:37

Quoting Scally:

Actually... looking at Anaheim's lineup and the salary as hinted by Chirp... would it be possible that BM is looking at Palmieri? We're currently strong at C, so a RW with a great shot might just fit the bill.

Maybe a Silfverberg + Bishop for Palmieri deal? Both make about the same (1M vs .9M) and both are on the last year of the contract...

where do the sens upgrade in that and where do the ducks upgrade in that? winger for winger and an extra goalie for ANA when they dont need one?

+7 #142 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-04 22:38

Does anyone else wish we had signed PA Parenteau this past summer? He just scored his 7th goal in his 9th game for the Avs.

-1 #143 Andrews Theory 2013-02-04 22:42

Given the most recent fall out in Pheonix, what happens in the event they bankrupt the team? Apparently, re-locating the team would result in significant law suits at this point so bankruptcy may be the only option.

If this happens, what happens to all of their players? There's a couple of current players as well as prospects that I'd be more than happy to snap up...

+1 #144 Andrews Theory 2013-02-04 22:45

Quoting AlfieforMayor11:

Does anyone else wish we had signed PA Parenteau this past summer? He just scored his 7th goal in his 9th game for the Avs.

I think a lot of people expected him to drop off this year...he's certainly playing well though!

0 #145 hq8 2013-02-04 22:52

Quoting AlfieforMayor11:

Does anyone else wish we had signed PA Parenteau this past summer? He just scored his 7th goal in his 9th game for the Avs.

i thought the sens did try to go for him, obviously the youth revolution with the avs with duchene, landeskog and o'reilly was more attractive plus im sure they offered the most monies. looks like the teams that did not offer him that extra money are probably wondering right now. still 4 mill per for 4 years - thats quite a bit.

-5 #146 Scally 2013-02-04 22:55

Quoting hq8:

where do the sens upgrade in that and where do the ducks upgrade in that? winger for winger and an extra goalie for ANA when they dont need one?

I see your point about ANA maybe not needing Bishop as they have Fasth (really dont know much about that guy)... But for the Sens, they would get an upgrade on the RW. Not bashing Silf in anyway, but if you'd present both players to me I'd pick Palmieri first...

-13 #147 111519 2013-02-04 23:25

Ottawa will not be trading with Anaheim

You all need to get a hobby besides pretending to be the next Eklund

Our nxt trade will be with Wasington and will involve Jeff Schultz and Colin Greening

+1 #148 taxman 2013-02-04 23:43

All I can say is I'm getting sick of the "budget" comments. Are we going to start having Briden bowls again?
I understand not wanting to bribe people to come and play here, but some people are deserving of top dollars, and giving them to them isn't a bribe. Perry is a heart and Rocket Richard trophy winner. Is he supposed to give us a discount just because Ottawa's so awesome?
Perry probably isn't coming here, but if it's an option, Melnyk better not blow it for us.
If he can't make a go of this team as a business, what was the point of the lock-out in the first place?

That being said, I have no problem with a budget if it's simply designed to leave us room to pay our up and coming prospects as their contracts expire. Let's just not go the discount cap floor route. That's all I ask as a fan.

+3 #149 hq8 2013-02-05 00:28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRZmVTUKhfA

just to revive the spirit of last year guys.
our team will be great, its close and its got the fight in it. trade or no trade, who cares. we got a bunch that will make a game of any game i think we can all be assured of that. can't wait to have spezz and cowen back and yes the Gonch too.

0 #150 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-05 08:34

Quoting 111519:

Ottawa will not be trading with Anaheim

You all need to get a hobby besides pretending to be the next Eklund

Our nxt trade will be with Wasington and will involve Jeff Schultz and Colin Greening

Jeff Shultz is garbage.

+3 #151 SensChirp 2013-02-05 08:37

Quoting AlfieforMayor11:

Quoting 111519:
Ottawa will not be trading with Anaheim

You all need to get a hobby besides pretending to be the next Eklund

Our nxt trade will be with Wasington and will involve Jeff Schultz and Colin Greening

Jeff Shultz is garbage.

Such an oddly specific prediction.

0 #152 Andrews Theory 2013-02-05 09:18

Quoting taxman:

All I can say is I'm getting sick of the "budget" comments.

Perry probably isn't coming here, but if it is possible, Melnyk better not blow it for us.
If he can't make a go of this team as a business, what was the point of the lock-out in the first place?

That being said, I have no problem with a budget if it's simply designed to leave us room to pay our up and coming prospects as their contracts expire. Let's just not go the discount cap floor route. That's all I ask as a fan.

I agree!

If having a team means trading away players because they've earned a pay raise and walking away from elite talent, what's the point?

With that said, I truly believe Melnyk will spend when the time comes and we have a contender.

+2 #153 SensChirp 2013-02-05 09:24

Sens have apparently signed defenceman Brett Lebda to an AHL tryout. 397 games of NHL experience with the Red Wings, Leafs and Blue Jackets.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=55640

+3 #154 Hax 2013-02-05 09:26

Quoting Scally:

Actually... looking at Anaheim's lineup and the salary as hinted by Chirp... would it be possible that BM is looking at Palmieri? We're currently strong at C, so a RW with a great shot might just fit the bill.

Maybe a Silfverberg + Bishop for Palmieri deal? Both make about the same (1M vs .9M) and both are on the last year of the contract...

I can't believe Murray would trade Silfverberg. Many in hockey consider him to be a blue-chip prospect.

+4 #155 Hax 2013-02-05 09:27

Quoting SensChirp:

Sens have apparently signed defenceman Brett Lebda to an AHL tryout. 397 games of NHL experience with the Red Wings, Leafs and Blue Jackets.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=55640

The Murrays trying to keep Bingo competitive - good move.

0 #156 Back checker 2013-02-05 09:55

I am a little surprised by this actually. I was already wondering what the senators were going to do when Lundin comes back, I mean no offence to Lundin but with the way Benoit, wire and to some extent Boro, he is redundant . I am certain that when Murray signed Lundin he had no idea that Benoit and Wire would perform as well as they have, they have definitely shown they belong. I am quite familiar with Lundin's career and anyone who thinks he is an ugrade over the way those two are playing is in for a surprise. Still think Boro could use some more seasoning in the AHL. Interesting to see how the Lebda tryout goes, but one has to think if he had much left in the tank he would have been off the market long ago. Time will tell.

+2 #157 Sandy 2013-02-05 09:58

Quoting Hax:

Quoting Scally:
Actually... looking at Anaheim's lineup and the salary as hinted by Chirp... would it be possible that BM is looking at Palmieri? We're currently strong at C, so a RW with a great shot might just fit the bill.

Maybe a Silfverberg + Bishop for Palmieri deal? Both make about the same (1M vs .9M) and both are on the last year of the contract...

I can't believe Murray would trade Silfverberg. Many in hockey consider him to be a blue-chip prospect.

Palmiere I believe was just traded to the Rangers along with Powe... So that trade won't happen.

Tyler Myers is also making 12M this season.. so I don't think the Sens go there with that.

+1 #158 FBP 2013-02-05 10:07

Quoting SensChirp:

Quoting AlfieforMayor11:
Quoting 111519:

Our nxt trade will be with Wasington and will involve Jeff Schultz and Colin Greening

Such an oddly specific prediction.

I don't mind this trade. I doubt Melnyk would take on the extra 2 million though.

0 #159 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-05 10:13

Quoting Sandy:

Quoting Hax:
Quoting Scally:
Actually... looking at Anaheim's lineup and the salary as hinted by Chirp... would it be possible that BM is looking at Palmieri? We're currently strong at C, so a RW with a great shot might just fit the bill.

Maybe a Silfverberg + Bishop for Palmieri deal? Both make about the same (1M vs .9M) and both are on the last year of the contract...

I can't believe Murray would trade Silfverberg. Many in hockey consider him to be a blue-chip prospect.

Palmiere I believe was just traded to the Rangers along with Powe... So that trade won't happen.

Tyler Myers is also making 12M this season.. so I don't think the Sens go there with that.

That's a different Palmieri... but yes that trade wouldn't happen anyway.

-6 #160 The Silfver Surfer 2013-02-05 10:25

Well the Hockey Gods sent a nice message to the refs last night for their poor officiating of late haha... One gets his teeth knocked out and 13 stitches and another gets sent to the hospital... Hopefully we don't see any bullshit calls tonight!

+2 #161 boom 2013-02-05 10:45

Quoting The Silfer Surfer:

Well the Hockey Gods sent a nice message to the refs last night for their poor officiating of late haha... One gets his teeth knocked out and 13 stitches and another gets sent to the hospital... Hopefully we don't see any bullshit calls tonight!

Really? This pleases you?

0 #162 thepez 2013-02-05 10:47

When Lundin is ready Borocop will probably be sent down. Benoit if sent down would probably be claimed on waivers. With all the injuries around the NHL, having 9 NHL ready d-men (I include Gryba in this group) is very important. Plus come trade deadline in April, it will be interesting to see if some of these depth d-men can bring back some kind of return.

-1 #163 Back checker 2013-02-05 11:07

Benoit is playing far too well to be sent down, I think he would be the least likely of the three (wire,boor) to be sent down. He would be claimed for sure.

+2 #164 GreeningTheMonster 2013-02-05 11:10

Quoting The Silfer Surfer:

Well the Hockey Gods sent a nice message to the refs last night for their poor officiating of late haha... One gets his teeth knocked out and 13 stitches and another gets sent to the hospital... Hopefully we don't see any bullshit calls tonight!

Wtf

+1 #165 AlfieforMayor11 2013-02-05 11:11

Quoting thepez:

When Lundin is ready Borocop will probably be sent down. Benoit if sent down would probably be claimed on waivers. With all the injuries around the NHL, having 9 NHL ready d-men (I include Gryba in this group) is very important. Plus come trade deadline in April, it will be interesting to see if some of these depth d-men can bring back some kind of return.

Yeah I agree.. I think it's pretty clear that Coach Mac is most comfortable with Benoit and Wiercioch right now. When Lundin returns, it will most likely be Boro that get's sent down.

0 #166 hq8 2013-02-05 11:39

the lebda signing is a good step i think. Bingo has lost all its puck movers to the sens in PW46 and Benoit. Lebda brings a good shot too.

sens will need to be physical tonight. Buffalo is no pushover anymore with the likes of Ott and Scott added to Kaleta.

looking forward to seeing DaCosta on PP.

also, based on the practice lines, my hope of seeing Turris between Zib and Silfverberg might just come true =D.

0 #167 IcySurfas 2013-02-05 11:39

"Tyler Myers is also making 12M this season.. so I don't think the Sens go there with that." - quote

I will never understand how Tyler Myers was signed to the contract he has, till 2019!? With signing bonuses and all, its just disgusting how much he makes. Maybe he will develop into a pivotal core d-man for the Sabres someday, but to pay for it NOW just boggles me.

In other non-Sens news/queries..W hy have the Islanders not bought out Dipietro's contract (ala "Gomez/Redden style"). Is it pride?...the non-ability to admit a collossal mistake? I just don't get it.

Anyway...Im just killing time waiting for the game day post. Not looking to start a debate or whatnot.

P.s. What the hell has Thomas Vanek been eating for breakfast?? 19 points in first 8 games is ridiculous!

+1 #168 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-05 11:41

Benoit out of all the call-ups this year has looked the most comfortable in the NHL lineup. He has not missed a beat really and I cannot see Ottawa sending him back down, why would they risk another team, who's suffering for D, snagging him. It won't happen. They will only drop the no waiver players.

+1 #169 hq8 2013-02-05 11:43

Quoting IcySurfas:

"Tyler Myers is also making 12M this season.. so I don't think the Sens go there with that.

" - quote

I will never understand how Tyler Myers was signed to the contract he has, till 2019!? With signing bonuses and all, its just disgusting how much he makes. Maybe he will develop into a pivotal core d-man for the Sabres someday, but to pay for it NOW just boggles me.

........
P.s. What the hell has Thomas Vanek been eating for breakfast?? 19 points in first 8 games is ridiculous!

Myers at 12 mil is ridiculous and stupid. Talk about gobbling up your salary cap in one massively underperforming defenseman. Good thing EK65's agent didnt set that as a bar - especially after a Norris Trophy.

0 #170 Patrick 2.0 2013-02-05 11:47

Quoting IcySurfas:

P.s. What the hell has Thomas Vanek been eating for breakfast?? 19 points in first 8 games is ridiculous!

I watched some of the recent Boston/Buffalo game (where buffalo came back to win it), and yeah, vanek/Pommenvil le were making the big bad bruins just look silly. They kept passing off the boards and breaking out on 2-on-1's against poor rask....

Hope our brass were watching too ;)

0 #171 MethotToMyMadness 2013-02-05 14:32

Quoting Patrick 2.0:

Quoting IcySurfas:
P.s. What the hell has Thomas Vanek been eating for breakfast?? 19 points in first 8 games is ridiculous!

I watched some of the recent Boston/Buffalo game (where buffalo came back to win it), and yeah, vanek/Pommenville were making the big bad bruins just look silly. They kept passing off the boards and breaking out on 2-on-1's against poor rask....

Hope our brass were watching too ;)

This last post has answered the question about Vanek. Vanek has been spectacular, much in part to the play of Pommenville and Hodgson. That 1st line has been amazing from the get go. And we can't forget he's always had the talent.

0 #172 T K 2013-02-06 00:10

I find it cute that Phillips has more goals at this point in the season than does Alfie

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