Wednesday, 07 March 2012 14:50

Tom Says and Updates From Practice

I don’t think it needs to be said that the Senators are having the kind of season that is so far beyond initial expectations that it is almost becoming ridiculous.

Most people thought this would be a season in which the senators would struggle to be competitive on a nightly basis, let alone be in the playoff picture in March. In almost every way possible, this Ottawa Senators team has been a pleasant surprise.

However, with the team sitting pretty in a playoff spot, it seems that some fans are waiting for their chance to say “I told you so”. After Sunday night’s loss to Florida in a game where the Sens just didn’t seem to have their usual drive, the mood on the Interwebs was confusing to say the least.

It seems that in a season that has exceeded expectations in every way imaginable there is still a sense among some in the Senators fan base that this type of season is counterproductive to the ultimate goal or the “big picture”.

It was suggested last night that having a successful season to date and continuing to win games and makes strides towards the playoffs may be counterproductive, and that perhaps the Senators have given up on the idea of rebuilding. Perhaps the Senators have decided that this surprising season is indicative of things to come. Maybe we don’t have to continue down the rebuilding path…MAYBE JIM O’BRIEN IS THE ANSWER!

But really, that is a load of garbage. This seasons Senators are just having a great year. Plain and simple.

The fact that our average players are having above average seasons cannot be looked upon with concern for the future. Nothing the organization has done has suggested that they intend to do anything other than continue their rebuild. Past trends of acquiring big contract UFA rental players at the deadline seemed to be a distant thought for this team. Trading future assets for a chance to win now doesn’t seem to be crossing the minds of the Senators brass. Overvaluing mediocre players with the chance to jeopardize future transactions doesn’t seem to be where this team is heading.

Instead smart hockey moves are being made to ensure that this season of surprise can be parlayed into future gains for the organization. Adding guys like Kyle Turris and Ben Bishop ensure that depth in two major areas of concern for the Ottawa Senators are addressed for many seasons to come. These types of moves show a renewed commitment to the rebuilding program more than anything else. There is always concern when you trade away an unproven prospect like David Rundblad, or future assets in the form of 2nd round picks, but when you can improve your team immediately and for the foreseeable future in 1 or 2 moves it’s hard to consider it a negative.

I find it hard to believe that some people think that having success with a team that shouldn’t be having any is a bad thing. We are winning with the team we have, not with a team that we had to acquire through trade or UFA signings. The Sens are almost at the cap floor and have incredible flexibility for the future and the ability to add pieces to fill holes in the future.

The future is bright. Be happy that this hasn’t been the most depressing season in Senators history as many, MANY people suggested it would be.

Love this team. Revel in this season. Relish a chance at the playoffs. I think you’ll find it’s much more enjoyable.

Let me know how you feel about this season in the comments or send me a note on Twitter @TomSENS

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  • The Ottawa Senators were on the practice ice this afternoon ahead of tomorrow's game against the New York Rangers.  Chris Phillips, Jason Spezza and Erik Karlsson were among the players that did not skate.  Both Spezza and Karlsson took maintenance days while Chris Phillips is nursing a broken nose but is expected to play.  Same goes for Jim O'Brien.
  • The Sens goaltending battle continues to heat up as Robin Lehner answered Ben Bishop's win with a shutout down in the AHL.  Give the organization credit for doing a great job of creating competition during Craig Anderson's absence.
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+1 #1 thepez 2012-03-07 15:01
According to Brent Wallace, Chris Philips was on the ice with a full shield.
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0 #2 SensChirp 2012-03-07 15:04
Quoting thepez:
According to Brent Wallace, Chris Philips was on the ice with a full shield.

Yep. Is expected to play tomorrow. Same goes for O'Brien who missed last night's game with a lingering upper body injury.
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+9 #3 Rizzo 2012-03-07 15:06
Thank God Burke is not our GM
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-6 #4 Tookie 2012-03-07 15:26
Quoting Rizzo:
Thank God Burke is not our GM


Well, he's built great teams in the past, guy is great at doing it, it doesnt always work, that Leafs team was a mess to begin with.

Look what he did to the Canucks and Ducks...
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+4 #5 thepez 2012-03-07 15:36
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting Rizzo:
Thank God Burke is not our GM


Well, he's built Cup winners in the past, guy is great at doing it, it doesnt always work, that Leafs team was a mess to begin with.

Look what he did to the Canucks and Ducks...



He's won one cup and it's common knowledge that Bryan Murray built that team, Burke even says it himself. Pronger and Niedermeyer fell into his lap and there is your Stanley Cup winner. As described by the Toronto Sun today, Burke is thin skinned and cares more about the media and what is said about him and the Leafs than actually doing what is best for the team. The only reason that he traded for Kessel and gave up that ridiculos bounty to Boston was that he panicked because of what the media said about him and the Leafs. No other manager would have done that but it runs in the bloodlines of Leaf GM's. We all remember Russ Courtnall for John Kordic. That trade may have been the worst ever, however the Kessl trade is looking worse and worse by the season.
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+9 #6 MoeDozer 2012-03-07 15:38
real proud of lehner right now!
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+6 #7 No65* 2012-03-07 15:40
When Burke started with the Ducks, he had a pretty good bunch of players to start with, thanks to Bryan Murray. All he had to do is get Pronger and Nierdermeyer and voilĂ .

Let's all hope that Cowen and Karlsson will do the same for the Sens in the near future and get us THE CUP.

I still believe the Sens have everything in place to please Zach Parise this summer. We have a young and promising team. Who wouldn't want to play with Karlsson and Spezza for an offensive minded coach. He could be the missing link to put us over the top as soon as next season.
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+2 #8 Muckalt 2012-03-07 15:47
The so-called rebuild really only started when Murray cleaned house for draft picks last year. It is important to remember that there isn't a single player on the current roster (I don't think) who came in as a result of that sell off. The team hasn't really seen any of the benefit of the sell off aside from clearing roster spots for the AHL'ers who won the Calder. It is hard not to be satisfied with this year's progress considering they haven't even tapped into the bounty of players that came through the sell off. The future is definitely bright if current players keep developing, and the drafted players come along as hoped. Add to that using up cap space (by signing Parise of course) and the team could be back to contending.
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-6 #9 Tookie 2012-03-07 15:50
Quoting thepez:
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting Rizzo:
Thank God Burke is not our GM


Well, he's built Cup winners in the past, guy is great at doing it, it doesnt always work, that Leafs team was a mess to begin with.

Look what he did to the Canucks and Ducks...



He's won one cup and it's common knowledge that Bryan Murray built that team, Burke even says it himself. Pronger and Niedermeyer fell into his lap and there is your Stanley Cup winner. As described by the Toronto Sun today, Burke is thin skinned and cares more about the media and what is said about him and the Leafs than actually doing what is best for the team. The only reason that he traded for Kessel and gave up that ridiculos bounty to Boston was that he panicked because of what the media said about him and the Leafs. No other manager would have done that but it runs in the bloodlines of Leaf GM's. We all remember Russ Courtnall for John Kordic. That trade may have been the worst ever, however the Kessl trade is looking worse and worse by the season.


Murray only drafted Getzlaf and Perry, and its pretty common knowledge that they didnt do much in the playoffs. Burke is the one that developped them. As they only came into the league in 2005, after Murray had left.

If you ask anyone I think they would say Burke built that Cup winning team.

Scott Niedermayer, Pronger, Moen, Ryan compared to Perry and Getzlaf.
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+3 #10 Shocker78 2012-03-07 15:52
Pretty sure that Bryan Murray left Burkie a nice Stanley Cup winning team, as for the Canucks the only thing he did was draft the Sedins. How many cups have they won? I'll stick to Murray!!!


Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting Rizzo:
Thank God Burke is not our GM


Well, he's built great teams in the past, guy is great at doing it, it doesnt always work, that Leafs team was a mess to begin with.

Look what he did to the Canucks and Ducks...
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+5 #11 ZipZapRap 2012-03-07 15:52
Spezza and Karlsson need to rest their backs from carrying the team hahah
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+7 #12 worsteverything 2012-03-07 15:59
I FEEL this post. People all bent out of shape over having a good problem on their hands. Boo hoo they've hired a great new coach who's changed the culture of the team, the cupboard is full of prospects, the core players are performing very well, the rookies are fitting in and Bryan Murray is making moves none of us would have the guts to make to plug holes in the line up...oh AND they're in a playoff spot. Why cant we be more like Pittsburgh and nearly lose our franchise during the rebuild? Doesn't mean I'm never going to question decisions or think that the work is done already but i gotta say I am loving this team. Its been a great year to be a Sens fan. Unless you're Tookie who must be just exhausting to be. ;)
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0 #13 Junk-a-lot 2012-03-07 16:07
I'll second the tookie comment ;)

go sens goooooooooooo
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-4 #14 Tookie 2012-03-07 16:08
Quoting Shocker78:
Pretty sure that Bryan Murray left Burkie a nice Stanley Cup winning team, as for the Canucks the only thing he did was draft the Sedins. How many cups have they won? I'll stick to Murray!!!


Really lets see what Murray drafted during his tenure...Not much help if you ask me.

2002
Lupul
Brent
Lee
Vikho
Davis
Fritshaw
Caron
Petrow

2003
Getzlaf
Perry
Hynes
Alen
Saunders
Drew Miller
Southern
Shane O'Brien

2004
Ladislav Smid
Jordan Smith
Klubertans
Auffrey
Bouthillette
Christie
Pesonen
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+2 #15 SwedishSens 2012-03-07 16:09
Good on Lehner won't be too long before he is back I think

I can see Bishop playing tomorrow and vs buff

Lehner take over for Mtl x2 And leaf game
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-6 #16 Tookie 2012-03-07 16:16
Quoting Junk-a-lot:
I'll second the tookie comment ;)

go sens goooooooooooo


Thx bro!

Its just posts like that "Thank God Burk isnt our GM" that bring nothing to the blog, why even say that, if the person knew anything about hockey he would have welcomed Burke as GM very quickly just by going on his resume.

Its just silly comments, Murray is good yes, no doubt and I do also prfer Murray to Burke but if we would have landed Burke instead, I would also be very happy.

Like the post above mentioned "Burke only drafted the Sedins" Well Murray only drafted "Getzlaf & Perry", the difference is the Sedins actually carried their team to the Cup final, unlike Getz and Perry.
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+4 #17 Muckalt 2012-03-07 16:18
Is it time to change the title of this post to "The 2006/7 Anaheim Ducks: What was Murray's Impact and is Burke and Idiot"? "Things We Shouldn't Care About" is shorter.
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+3 #18 MoeDozer 2012-03-07 16:18
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting Shocker78:
Pretty sure that Bryan Murray left Burkie a nice Stanley Cup winning team, as for the Canucks the only thing he did was draft the Sedins. How many cups have they won? I'll stick to Murray!!!


Really lets see what Murray drafted during his tenure...Not much help if you ask me.

2002
Lupul
Brent
Lee
Vikho
Davis
Fritshaw
Caron
Petrow

2003
Getzlaf
Perry
Hynes
Alen
Saunders
Drew Miller
Southern
Shane O'Brien

2004
Ladislav Smid
Jordan Smith
Klubertans
Auffrey
Bouthillette
Christie
Pesonen

funny you say that since in 06-07 cup run, getlaf lead team with 17poitns and perry tied for 2nd with 15points in playoffs. in 2003 BM also traded commodore and someone else to the flames for rob niedermayer.

sounds like to me BM was a huge reason they won a cup if not the number 1 reason
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-1 #19 Hax 2012-03-07 16:21
Gryba rode the bus back to Bingo so not likely he's being called up for tomorrow (plus it seems Phillips is ok).
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0 #20 Junk-a-lot 2012-03-07 16:32
the reason I second his comment is because you are always posting sick comments about our team .

see AGAIN trashing our gmm ... get a life loser
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0 #21 Tookie 2012-03-07 16:37
Quoting Junk-a-lot:
the reason I second his comment is because you are always posting sick comments about our team .

see AGAIN trashing our gmm ... get a life loser


I see you cant read properly, I dont see anywhere where I say BM is crap? Hooked on phonics bro, try it out!
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+3 #22 CrazzieCanuk 2012-03-07 16:39
There goes Tookie defending his beloved Leafs again. Why are you even on a Sens board??
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+7 #23 Hax 2012-03-07 16:40
Tookie is bored and looking to stir things up I see.

Wake me when it's over.
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-3 #24 Sens Saint .... the former #1 fan of Spezzafan19! 2012-03-07 16:45
Tookie is correct about the Burkie-Murray-D ucks conversation. Murray did lay some of the groundwork but Burkie finished the build.

On another note - anxious to see Biship play again tomorrow night. I'm still not 100% sure about him over Lehner...
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+1 #25 Hax 2012-03-07 16:48
Quoting Sens Saint:
Tookie is correct about the Burkie-Murry-Ducks conversation. Murry did lay some of the groundwork but Burkie finished the build.

On another note - anxious to see Biship play again tomorrow night. I'm still not 100% sure about him over Lehner...


True enough - both guys contributed and you can't really say one could have done what the other did (or that that they couldn't).

I'm pretty sure Lehner >>> Bishop right now, but that doesn't mean it will stay that way. Heck, if the best we get from Bishop is a little fire under Lehner he's worth it.
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0 #26 Tookie 2012-03-07 16:51
Quoting Hax:
Quoting Sens Saint:
Tookie is correct about the Burkie-Murry-Ducks conversation. Murry did lay some of the groundwork but Burkie finished the build.

On another note - anxious to see Biship play again tomorrow night. I'm still not 100% sure about him over Lehner...


True enough - both guys contributed and you can't really say one could have done what the other did (or that that they couldn't).

I'm pretty sure Lehner >>> Bishop right now, but that doesn't mean it will stay that way. Heck, if the best we get from Bishop is a little fire under Lehner he's worth it.


Ok I'll take that understanding, RE: Burke/Murray...

Yeah if thats all it does its great for us, Lehner is a bit complacent, getting bored is never a good thing.
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+1 #27 Sens Saint .... the former #1 fan of Spezzafan19! 2012-03-07 16:52
Hax - I 100% agree about Lehner. I think before the Biship move, Robin was on cruse control & now the guy has woken up!
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+1 #28 moneymike 2012-03-07 17:06
Didn't Murray also sign Penner? He was good back then
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+1 #29 brad11sens 2012-03-07 17:16
my work is doing a job at the "Big Rig" . one my coworkers was there and saw phillips and said he seems completely fine.
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+2 #30 WeAreSensFans! 2012-03-07 17:20
Quoting Tookie19:
Quoting Junk-a-lot:
I'll second the tookie comment ;)

go sens goooooooooooo


Thx bro!

Its just posts like that "Thank God Burk isnt our GM" that bring nothing to the blog, why even say that, if the person knew anything about hockey he would have welcomed Burke as GM very quickly just by going on his resume.

Its just silly comments, Murray is good yes, no doubt and I do also prfer Murray to Burke but if we would have landed Burke instead, I would also be very happy.

Like the post above mentioned "Burke only drafted the Sedins" Well Murray only drafted "Getzlaf & Perry", the difference is the Sedins actually carried their team to the Cup final, unlike Getz and Perry.


Tookie your about to eat your words...

we don't know anything about hockey right? whats your new senschirp handle going to be? yeah i thought so...
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-1 #31 SNOOPY SENIOR 2012-03-07 18:05
[quote name="Muckalt"] The so-called rebuild really only started when Murray cleaned house for draft picks last year. It is important to remember that there isn't a single player on the current roster (I don't think) who came in as a result of that sell off. The team hasn't really seen any of the benefit of the sell off aside from clearing roster spots for the AHL'ers who won the Calder. It is hard not to be satisfied with this year's progress considering they haven't even tapped into the bounty of players that came through the sell off. The future is definitely bright if current players keep developing, and the drafted players come along as hoped. Add to that using up cap space (by signing Parise of course) and the team could be back to contending.[/quote

@ Muckalt,

The only player to come via trade, was Craig Anderson for Brian Elliott. It worked out well for both players and both teams !]
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+4 #32 hq8 2012-03-07 18:13
great post by Tom and i was just thinking about this to myself too recently. as a fan i don't feel this year worrying about playoff positioning and the team's run increasingly. this year's sens have given us fans a new kind of confidence and belief in the team. it might not have the best pieces in the league, but it has the best hearts and definitely one of the hardest working teams in the league with an amazing coach who is really the envy of the league right now. Im sure rebuilding teams like Edmonton would give anything to have a guy like Paul MacLean running the show. The team has given us fans enough of a fun ride to accept them as they are and enjoy them as a sum. I see so many fans here who are maybe missing that satisfaction and want to pull off the next big trade hastily. Its been one of the best years to be a sens fan and definitely has a very cool feeling to it where the sens have defied some serious odds and expectations (or lack thereof lol).

as for the Burke argument: Burke may have won the cup with Anahiem, but what he did via the Kessel trade, his mishandling of Kadri, making Dion Phaneuf the captain and his coaching decision including the goalie coach, are proof enough that he is a shit GM who clearly has zero skill. He wrecked Vancouver, he completely wrecked Anaheim after their cup win and he pretty much wrecked the leafs very very early on by trading TWO FIRST ROUNDERS FOR KESSEL AND THEN TANKING TWO YEARS IN A ROW. I dont think a gm who giftwraps a division rival TWO FRANCHISE PLAYERS as a good gm. but its all good for us sens fans, because Burke is here to stay, which pretty much guarantees that the leafs will suck for quite some time.
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+2 #33 sharmarke 2012-03-07 18:18
I swear we are destined to finish 7th nd play the bruins. from january on ive been preparing for this boston team. they better realize they r not.going to break our nose. Bruins and sens are locked in their spots trspectively
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+4 #34 NickG 2012-03-07 18:30
Burke sure is consistent with the Leafs though, I'll give him that.

2008–09 82 34 35 -- 5th in Northeast Did not qualify
2009–10 82 30 38 -- 5th in Northeast Did not qualify
2010–11 82 37 34 -- 4th in Northeast Did not qualify

Prior to Burke, for anyone curious:
2005–06 82 41 33 -- 4th in Northeast Did not qualify
2006–07 82 40 31 -- 3rd in Northeast Did not qualify
2007–08 82 36 35 -- 5th in Northeast Did not qualify
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+4 #35 CrazzieCanuk 2012-03-07 18:43
Gosh I feel all warm and fuzzy inside seeing all those "Did not qualify"
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0 #36 NickG 2012-03-07 18:44
Quoting sharmarke:
I swear we are destined to finish 7th nd play the bruins. from january on ive been preparing for this boston team. they better realize they r not.going to break our nose. Bruins and sens are locked in their spots trspectively

My local Jets club 'could' swap spots with the Sens. The Jets have no problems beating down the Bruins.

I'm just super pleased both appear to be in the playoffs no matter what. I'll just hate if the Jets get 3rd and the Sens get 6th. That'll probably happen. NHL doesn't want too many Canadian teams in the playoffs, of course.
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0 #37 Hax 2012-03-07 19:25
Quoting SNOOPY SENIOR:

@ Muckalt,

The only player to come via trade, was Craig Anderson for Brian Elliott. It worked out well for both players and both teams !]


And one could argue that we could have got him as a UFA though certainly getting him here early helped with that signing.

Good point by Muckalt though - outside of clearing some room, creating some competition and a bit of a mindset change, we haven't really reaped the benefits of those extra picks yet.
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+2 #38 timwrx 2012-03-07 21:13
KLINKHAMMMMMMMM MMER!!!!
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-1 #39 CrazzieCanuk 2012-03-07 21:23
KLINK Who??
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+4 #40 Paradocs 2012-03-07 22:02
Quoting Tookie19:
If you ask anyone I think they would say Burke built that Cup winning team.

Scott Niedermayer, Pronger, Moen, Ryan compared to Perry and Getzlaf.


"...if the person knew anything about hockey", he would know that Ryan wasn't on the Cup-winning team...
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+4 #41 MethotToMyMadness 2012-03-07 22:04
Just happy the Leafs blew another lead and made all the Fans happy.
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+10 #42 SensChirp 2012-03-07 22:05
Goodnight Leaf Nation.
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+1 #43 MacK 2012-03-07 22:22
Quoting timwrx:
KLINKHAMMMMMMMMMMER!!!!

Isn't his name so fun to say! haha
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+2 #44 CrazzieCanuk 2012-03-07 22:24
Poor little Tookie must be crying himself to sleep while wearing his Leafs jammies....lol
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-1 #45 SENSational 2012-03-07 22:35
I really hope Murray gives our young prospects tons of time to develop, (especially in the AHL). We're also in desperate need of a TOP LINE not top six forward. We're gonna have a ton of cap space over the next two years, let's hope Murray goes after Parise this summer or Perry next summer.
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+2 #46 Zaktama 2012-03-07 22:36
LEAFS SUCK!
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+1 #47 Muckalt 2012-03-07 22:40
If I heard correctly, the commentators on the Leafs' broadcast tonight said that there are only 7 active NHL players who were in the league the last time the Leafs had a playoff game. Wow. As a Sens fan in the GTA, I can't wait to use that stat the next time I hear how the Leafs own the Sens in the playoffs.
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+2 #48 senskarlsson57 2012-03-07 22:53
Right when I start to feel some empathy for the leafs...I remember the drunk guy I once sat beside during a sens loss vs. the leafs. Feeling is gone.

Leafs will suck forever...hones tly.


Go Fucking Sens.
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0 #49 Mike L 2012-03-07 23:27
Quoting Tookie19:

Murray only drafted Getzlaf and Perry, and its pretty common knowledge that they didnt do much in the playoffs. Burke is the one that developped them. As they only came into the league in 2005, after Murray had left.

If you ask anyone I think they would say Burke built that Cup winning team.

Scott Niedermayer, Pronger, Moen, Ryan compared to Perry and Getzlaf.


Ryan wasn't even on the SC team you useless troll. So much for role playing "Mr. Hockey-know-it-all".

Like I said before, the art of trolling based on quality not quantity and you're just getting way too desperate for a little bit of attention that you obviously didn't receive in your childhood.

Keep figting the fight finger warrior.
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0 #50 T K 2012-03-07 23:41
Quoting Muckalt:
If I heard correctly, the commentators on the Leafs' broadcast tonight said that there are only 7 active NHL players who were in the league the last time the Leafs had a playoff game. Wow. As a Sens fan in the GTA, I can't wait to use that stat the next time I hear how the Leafs own the Sens in the playoffs.


Although I hope that statement is true, I find it hard to believe, especially in an era with many 37, 38, 39, 40... year old players.

Can anyone name the 7?

Seems to me Alfie, Phillips, Neil and Gonchar would be in such a group. With Selane, Koivu and a third of Detroit's team being geriatrics still in the league, the numbers don't sound right to me.
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0 #51 Muckalt 2012-03-07 23:48
Quoting T K:
Quoting Muckalt:
If I heard correctly, the commentators on the Leafs' broadcast tonight said that there are only 7 active NHL players who were in the league the last time the Leafs had a playoff game. Wow. As a Sens fan in the GTA, I can't wait to use that stat the next time I hear how the Leafs own the Sens in the playoffs.




Can anyone name the 7?

Seems to me Alfie, Phillips, Neil and Gonchar would be in such a group. With Selane, Koivu and a third of Detroit's team being geriatrics still in the league, the numbers don't sound right to me.


They named them on the broadcast, but Stajan is the only one that I recall them saying. Antropov, Kaberle,Ponikar ovsky, Wellwood and Collaiocovo are the only others I can identify from their 2004 roster.
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0 #52 T K 2012-03-07 23:51
Quoting Muckalt:
Quoting T K:
Quoting Muckalt:
If I heard correctly, the commentators on the Leafs' broadcast tonight said that there are only 7 active NHL players who were in the league the last time the Leafs had a playoff game. Wow. As a Sens fan in the GTA, I can't wait to use that stat the next time I hear how the Leafs own the Sens in the playoffs.




Can anyone name the 7?

Seems to me Alfie, Phillips, Neil and Gonchar would be in such a group. With Selane, Koivu and a third of Detroit's team being geriatrics still in the league, the numbers don't sound right to me.


They named them on the broadcast, but Stajan is the only one that I recall them saying. Antropov, Kaberle,Ponikarovsky, Wellwood and Collaiocovo are the only others I can identify from their 2004 roster.


OK, so 7 ex-Leasts still active, not 7 active players in the league... Makes sense... about 1/3 of the team...
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+1 #53 Spendzza 2012-03-08 00:09
McCabe?

Remember when Chara rag-dolled him?

Good times.

Go Sens go,
Spendzza
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+1 #54 Muckalt 2012-03-08 00:14
Yes, 7 from their roster. Sorry, my original post was not clear.
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0 #55 Paradocs 2012-03-08 00:14
Quoting T K:
Quoting Muckalt:
If I heard correctly, the commentators on the Leafs' broadcast tonight said that there are only 7 active NHL players who were in the league the last time the Leafs had a playoff game. Wow. As a Sens fan in the GTA, I can't wait to use that stat the next time I hear how the Leafs own the Sens in the playoffs.


Although I hope that statement is true, I find it hard to believe, especially in an era with many 37, 38, 39, 40... year old players.

Can anyone name the 7?

Seems to me Alfie, Phillips, Neil and Gonchar would be in such a group. With Selane, Koivu and a third of Detroit's team being geriatrics still in the league, the numbers don't sound right to me.


7 doesn't seem so bad if it's players from the Leafs roster.
I count 10 of the 03-04 Sens still playing in the NHL; 7 Habs; 8 Bruins...
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0 #56 Paradocs 2012-03-08 00:16
Although I only count 4 Leafs...
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0 #57 Muckalt 2012-03-08 00:31
The point is, count how many players from each of those teams are still in the league since the last time each team was in the playoffs, not since 2004. It is pretty bad to have 3/4 of a roster retire from the game before a team sees another playoff game.
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0 #58 richardson711 2012-03-08 07:38
Even though it is very very true that we are doing so much better than anyone expected, i hope this is the last time i have to read that. the fact that we are doing way better than expected is great news but very old news. lets forget about what people thought of us before and just look to the future and see how we keep it up!

i have a couple things on my mind about the rebuild.

1) with turris doing rather well what do you think is the most likely scenario with zibanejad next year and the year after. a)nhl 2nd line b) nhl 3rd line c)binghamton d)sweden c) traded
-any other options?

2)I think we have an overabundance of young 3rd and 4th line players. foligno, smith, condra, greening, daugavins, klinkhammer, winchester, o'brien. so the question is what do we do with them all?

3) i think our defence has some major holes. ie too soft, not good board battlers, scared to get hit. agree/disagree? what would you do to remedy this?
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+2 #59 spezzerman 2012-03-08 08:05
I come to Sens chirp and all I read about are the leafs? Why are we so obsessed about an insignificant team? We should quit feeding the inferiority complex stigma.
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0 #60 Dirk Diggler 2012-03-08 09:07
Quoting richardson711:
Even though it is very very true that we are doing so much better than anyone expected, i hope this is the last time i have to read that. the fact that we are doing way better than expected is great news but very old news. lets forget about what people thought of us before and just look to the future and see how we keep it up!

i have a couple things on my mind about the rebuild.

1) with turris doing rather well what do you think is the most likely scenario with zibanejad next year and the year after. a)nhl 2nd line b) nhl 3rd line c)binghamton d)sweden c) traded
-any other options?

2)I think we have an overabundance of young 3rd and 4th line players. foligno, smith, condra, greening, daugavins, klinkhammer, winchester, o'brien. so the question is what do we do with them all?

3) i think our defence has some major holes. ie too soft, not good board battlers, scared to get hit. agree/disagree? what would you do to remedy this?

1) I think Zibby will be converted to winger. He should play in the top 6 and playing alongside Spezza and Michalek could be interesting.

Michalek-Speza-Zibanejad
Sifverberg-Turris-Alfredsson

looks like a good top 6 to me! If there is a way to sign Parise then he moves into Michalek's spot and MM9 moves to Sifverbergs spot.

2/3) We need to move a few of those guys for defence prospects. We have way too many forwards in our system and that is a strenght that hopefully we can use at the draft to either gain new picks, enhance our other picks or trade for prospects and nhl ready players.
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0 #61 DenisVial 2012-03-08 09:08
Quoting spezzerman:
I come to Sens chirp and all I read about are the leafs? Why are we so obsessed about an insignificant team? We should quit feeding the inferiority complex stigma.


I agree 100%. Everyone knows leaves fall every spring.
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0 #62 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-08 09:11
Nice "Sens Prediction Panel" this morning, with only the Black Aces blogger having enough guts to predict a Senators win!

Sure playing one of the best teams in the league tonight will be tough, but nobody gives the Sens a ton of credit.

I say we ambush the dirty Rangers tonight and win by at least two goals.

UNLEASH THE KLINKHAMMER!!!! !!!!
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0 #63 miguel 2012-03-08 09:13
Quoting Muckalt:
The so-called rebuild really only started when Murray cleaned house for draft picks last year. It is important to remember that there isn't a single player on the current roster (I don't think) who came in as a result of that sell off. The team hasn't really seen any of the benefit of the sell off aside from clearing roster spots for the AHL'ers who won the Calder. It is hard not to be satisfied with this year's progress considering they haven't even tapped into the bounty of players that came through the sell off. The future is definitely bright if current players keep developing, and the drafted players come along as hoped. Add to that using up cap space (by signing Parise of course) and the team could be back to contending.


Excellent points!
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0 #64 BMKing 2012-03-08 09:17
SIlfverberg and Zibby should start off in the NHL then the best of them 2 will play along side Turris... the loser plays in the AHL for a bit till gets his game up.

I look at our roster and i agree we need to clear up some places for some of those younger players,

What do we do if Stone/Zibby/Sif verberg/Petters on have a great camp. I trully think Petterson will have a great one play a whole year in the AHL and should be ready next year..

I think Drafting D this year is our main focus and Trade guys (foligno/Butler ) for D
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0 #65 BMKing 2012-03-08 09:22
Quoting BMKing:
SIlfverberg and Zibby should start off in the NHL, the best of them 2 will play along side Turris... the loser plays in the AHL for a bit till gets his game up.

I look at our roster and i agree we need to clear up some room for some of those younger players,

What do we do if Stone/Zibby/Sifverberg/Petterson have a great camp. I trully think Petterson will have a great camp, he played a whole year in the AHL and should be ready next year..

I think Drafting D this year is our main focus and Trade guys (foligno/Butler) for D


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+1 #66 miguel 2012-03-08 09:36
Hey Tooks,
even laff fans and media, not to mention the #1 Leaf fan Cherry are all commenting on what a horrible job Burke is doing in TO.

this is Burke's fourth year, and he is no where closer to putting together a challenging team, and is in fact closer to another rebuild, after firing Wilson, who when hired they claimed they would be challenging for the cup in 3 years. Fail!

Burke has really set the leafs way back with trading Seguin and Hamilton, and having nothing in the tank for the near future.

Whereas in Ottawa one year removed from the firesale, and wholesale rebuild we WILL be challenging for the cup ( can't wait to officially win our little wager ) and, with a lot of hard work, a lot of luck, and maybe a small miracle would be only 16 wins away from carrying the Stanley cup.

Meanwhile Burke will once again be golfing in spring, scrambling once again, in the midst of an 8 YEAR rebuild.

Sorry Bro but you are the only one I know who can claim to be both a Sens fan and a Laff fan

Bud, it cannot be easy being both a Hatfield and a McCoy :)
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0 #67 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-08 09:44
Quoting miguel:
Hey Tooks,
even laff fans and media, not to mention the #1 Leaf fan Cherry are all commenting on what a horrible job Burke is doing in TO.

this is Burke's fourth year, and he is no where closer to putting together a challenging team, and is in fact closer to another rebuild, after firing Wilson, who when hired they claimed they would be challenging for the cup in 3 years. Fail!

Burke has really set the leafs way back with trading Seguin and Hamilton, and having nothing in the tank for the near future.

Whereas in Ottawa one year removed from the firesale, and wholesale rebuild we WILL be challenging for the cup ( can't wait to officially win our little wager ) and, with a lot of hard work, a lot of luck, and maybe a small miracle would be only 16 wins away from carrying the Stanley cup.

Meanwhile Burke will once again be golfing in spring, scrambling once again, in the midst of an 8 YEAR rebuild.

Sorry Bro but you are the only one I know who can claim to be both a Sens fan and a Laff fan

Bud, it cannot be easy being both a Hatfield and a McCoy :)


Great post miguel, and once again Chirp posts a new blog right after you comment. Haha.
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0 #68 miguel 2012-03-08 09:53
Quoting RUSHRLZ:
Quoting miguel:
Hey Tooks,
even laff fans and media, not to mention the #1 Leaf fan Cherry are all commenting on what a horrible job Burke is doing in TO.

this is Burke's fourth year, and he is no where closer to putting together a challenging team, and is in fact closer to another rebuild, after firing Wilson, who when hired they claimed they would be challenging for the cup in 3 years. Fail!

Burke has really set the leafs way back with trading Seguin and Hamilton, and having nothing in the tank for the near future.

Whereas in Ottawa one year removed from the firesale, and wholesale rebuild we WILL be challenging for the cup ( can't wait to officially win our little wager ) and, with a lot of hard work, a lot of luck, and maybe a small miracle would be only 16 wins away from carrying the Stanley cup.

Meanwhile Burke will once again be golfing in spring, scrambling once again, in the midst of an 8 YEAR rebuild.

Sorry Bro but you are the only one I know who can claim to be both a Sens fan and a Laff fan

Bud, it cannot be easy being both a Hatfield and a McCoy :)


Great post miguel, and once again Chirp posts a new blog right after you comment. Haha.

Really... I am starting to think Chirp is Tookie :)
thanks Rush
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0 #69 RUSHRLZ 2012-03-08 09:54
Quoting miguel:

Really... I am starting to think Chirp is Tookie :)
thanks Rush


If it makes you fell better, the same thing happens to me. A lot.
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