Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:44

Sens Fall in Carolina

It's pretty easy being an Ottawa Senators fan these days.

They win, it's a good thing. They lose, and you can still find reason to be positive.This team is putting in an honest effort every single night.  Hard not to cheer for a team that works as hard as these Ottawa Senators have the last little while.

A loss also helps the team's pursuit of a top pick this June.

The Sens jumped out to an early 2-0 lead on goals by Colin Greening and Marek Svatos, his first in 13 games since being picked up on waivers but were unable to hold off a desperate Canes team who scored two quick ones in response.

After a stretch where the teams combined for three goals in just 55 seconds in the first,the pace settled down in the middle frame. That was until Chad Larose scored his second of the game on a shot McElhinney would probably like back.

Carolina took a 4-2 lead on a pretty goal by Cory Stillman and while Spezza set up Karlsson for a beauty late in the third, the Canes held the Sens off the rest of the way. 4-3 the final.

Rookie defenceman Patrick Wiercioch struggled in his NHL debut. He skates well and seems to make good decisions with the puck but he struggled in his own end. Looks like a player that will need to get stronger this off season. Certainly didn't help having Filip Kuba has his defence partner.

Jason Spezza was far and away the best player on the ice for the Sens. He picked up a couple more assists and was a force on the puck. He has taken his game to another level since returning from a shoulder injury and has been contributing offensively on a nightly basis.

You never want to cheer for your team to lose but with the Sens and Avs fighting it out for 29th, a loss by the Ottawa Senators certainly wasn't the worst thing in the world.


Below is a look at the way the bottom five looks after the Sens loss in Carolina.

NY Islanders
74 29 33 12 70









Florida 73 29 34 10 68









Colorado 72 28 36 8 64









Ottawa 73 27 37 9 63









Edmonton 73 23 40 10 56
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-6 #1 Tcharger 2011-03-22 20:49
Was an entertaining enough game.....Pretty much exactly what I want to see happen in our last few games.

I still think Colorado is looking like geniuses with this trade
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+3 #2 BruinBlaster 2011-03-22 20:52
Sad thing is Wiercioch does struggle in his own end in the A so this is really no surprise. Tough position to be in, a defensive liability in the A (-13)and then you get called up. On the ice for 3 of 4 goals, at least he knows what to work on, strength and toughness. I hope he bounces back to the A to keep learning the game.
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+2 #3 Cherub of Sens Justice 2011-03-22 20:58
Just posted this in the previous column, but whatever...

Lee has been a quiet but pleasant surprise over the second half of the season imo. Never really figured him for a shutdown D-man with his skill set when he was drafted, but he has looked very good in the role with Phillips. Considering he's still so young and with all of our other D prospects coming up, we are loaded to the gills. It will be interesting to see how the Sens break camp with D next year, especially with the pairings.
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0 #4 gauts26 2011-03-22 20:58
Wiercioch will be a good player, but he needs 20lbs to fill hib body @ 6'-4" 195lbs.

Chirp,

Any news on the swedes and there playoff run
-rundblab
-silfverberg
-petersson

If they are eliminated, do you think the sens will bring them to ottawa to watch the last 10 games. they would prob like them to see how it is in the nhl, a little like they did last year during the playoffs.

cant wait till the draft and July 1st.

Lee and Phillips have looked great together, give them the rest of the year and we might see this as our shutdown pairing.

Phillips Lee
Gonchar Cowen
Karlsson Rundblad
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+7 #5 meadowdog 2011-03-22 21:07
There's no way in hell this team can allow Filip Kuba to take playing time away from more deserving players next season. I'd hate to have to give away a draft pick just to get someone to take him off our hands but he's killing me out there.
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0 #6 SensChirp 2011-03-22 21:07
@gauts26 That's a good question. I'll see what I can find out about their plans for those guys tomorrow.
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+1 #7 Engin 2011-03-22 21:08
I wasn't expecting Wiercioch to light it up in his debut. He has a few things to work on in order to make the roster out camp next seasons. Still it's nice to see him getting a few games with the big club.
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+1 #8 gauts26 2011-03-22 21:11
Quoting Engin:
I wasn't expecting Wiercioch to light it up in his debut. He has a few things to work on in order to make the roster out camp next seasons. Still it's nice to see him getting a few games with the big club.


I think Wiercioch will spend one more season in Bingo, and the sens will have a good idea where he will be in 2012-2013.
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-2 #9 sensarmy 2011-03-22 21:14
WOOOOOHOOOOOOOO
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+16 #10 SensChirp 2011-03-22 21:15
Obviously not the exact same circumstances but I think the improved play of Brian Lee is a great indicator of why you have to be patient with young defenceman.
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+1 #11 Cherub of Sens Justice 2011-03-22 21:24
Quoting SensChirp:
Obviously not the exact same circumstances but I think the improved play of Brian Lee is a great indicator of why you have to be patient with young defenceman.


Not necessarily too much of a difference either though. Both are tall, could use some bulk, smooth skating and have some offensive upside. I think Weircioch and Lee will develop into very similar players.

Anyhow, you're right in preaching patience. The fortunate thing for us now is we'll have the depth to allow Both Weircioch and Gryba to really develop in the AHL without having to rush them into the show.
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+4 #12 PickMathieuChouinardTwice 2011-03-22 21:24
Quoting SensChirp:
I think the improved play of Brian Lee is a great indicator of why you have to be patient with young defenceman.


Or any prospect for that matter. A lot fans kept saying that Lee is a bust, O'Brien is a bust, etc. Lee may not be better than Marc Staal or Anze Kopitar but sheesh...give the guy time to develop. He's 23 years old. If we didn't see progress by 25, then you have a case for a bust label.
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-5 #13 Peter Sidørkiewicz 2011-03-22 21:25
I predict that Kuba will have a good season next year.
He'll be playing for a new contract !
This summer he will be able properly recover from his recent injuries and then have a full training camp.

He'll play well enough in Ottawa to get something decent at the trade deadline.
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+4 #14 Engin 2011-03-22 21:27
Quoting gauts26:
Quoting Engin:
I wasn't expecting Wiercioch to light it up in his debut. He has a few things to work on in order to make the roster out camp next seasons. Still it's nice to see him getting a few games with the big club.


I think Wiercioch will spend one more season in Bingo, and the sens will have a good idea where he will be in 2012-2013.


Another season with Bingo couldn't hurt Wiercioch. That's the beauty having many D-man prospects.
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-3 #15 Peter Sidørkiewicz 2011-03-22 21:31
Colin Greening - "The Newfie Rocket"
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+4 #16 landeskog16 2011-03-22 21:33
why couldnt we have this team from the start of the season, im loving this team
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+6 #17 ChasJackie 2011-03-22 21:33
really good effort but we do need some losses, RIGHT

The team we have now is playing 10 times better then a few months ago.

Go Sens Go
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+8 #18 landeskog16 2011-03-22 21:41
how do you think florida feels for putting grabner on waivers?
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-3 #19 Powerade Fresh 2011-03-22 22:02
Quoting landeskog16:
why couldnt we have this team from the start of the season, im loving this team



Because then we wouldnt have a shot at Landeskog
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+7 #20 John Q. Spartan 2011-03-22 22:12
I think we all knew that Wiercioch wasn't ready for the NHL right now. That's not what this callup was about.

It was all about giving a young prospect a taste of the NHL, so he knows what to expect and what he needs to work on.

Mission accomplished. Do the same with Gryba now.
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+8 #21 John Q. Spartan 2011-03-22 22:14
Colin Greening is just getting better, that's good to see. He just seems so much more comfortable out there.
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0 #22 McHockey 2011-03-22 22:22
Colorado ties it up with under 5!!
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-1 #23 landeskog16 2011-03-22 22:23
avalanche tied it up. :D
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+5 #24 landeskog16 2011-03-22 22:26
wow elliots brutal
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-3 #25 McHockey 2011-03-22 22:26
And then Columbus takes it right back...
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-2 #26 McHockey 2011-03-22 22:31
Oh well, at least the Islanders lost
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0 #27 McHockey 2011-03-22 22:31
I mean won.
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+5 #28 -zs 2011-03-22 22:33
go avs!
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+3 #29 Rizzo 2011-03-22 22:33
This has nothing to do with anything, but I just think it's funny.

In 83 games with the Leafs, Phaneuf has 9 goals and 36 points

6.5M cap hit til 2014

In 68 games this year, Karlsson has 12 goals and 43 points.

The leafs have 11M going to Phaneuf and Komisarek. Just makes me feel awesome.
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-1 #30 landeskog16 2011-03-22 22:33
tied it upppppppppppppp pppppppppppp
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-1 #31 Sensational Sens Fan 2011-03-22 22:34
Avs tie it!
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-1 #32 landeskog16 2011-03-22 22:35
we could be back in 29th by the end of tonight
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-1 #33 -zs 2011-03-22 22:42
wow elliott looks good.... could he actually be good in a shootout though?
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-1 #34 -zs 2011-03-22 22:48
elliott wins a shootout!
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+4 #35 INurHome 2011-03-22 22:48
29th!
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-4 #36 aligator 2011-03-22 23:11
Quoting Powerade Fresh:
Quoting landeskog16:
why couldnt we have this team from the start of the season, im loving this team



Because then we wouldnt have a shot at Landeskog


We aren't drafting Landeskog.
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-1 #37 The Chef 2011-03-22 23:22
Can't complain about tonight's game. Sens played well. Spezza was great again. Wiercioch wasn't too good, but it's only his first game.
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+2 #38 karlssens 2011-03-22 23:47
Perfect night for a sens fan :). To be honest, I really think greening should be a lock on this team next year for some role. He has looked very steady in his call up and he plays a high tempo game. I think he can be a very solid third line player.

Next year's third line:

Foligno - regin - greening
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+1 #39 Acilladon 2011-03-23 00:30
cannot say enough about spezza's play these days

Chirp, or anyone who knows.. is the plan to have our top pick play in the big league next year? Just curious if there has been talk and i know this is premeditated considering the daft has not occured.
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0 #40 Dorkiewicz 2011-03-23 00:54
Quoting Acilladon:
cannot say enough about spezza's play these days

Chirp, or anyone who knows.. is the plan to have our top pick play in the big league next year? Just curious if there has been talk and i know this is premeditated considering the daft has not occured.


Murray has said he expects our pick to play in the NHL next year. I doubt we'll fall to 4th pick this year - realistically, we're 1st-3rd (depending on our luck).

It's likely that RNH, Larsson or Landeskog will be on our roster next year. Of those 3, Hopkins is the most likely to need AHL 'seasoning' - the other two are generally considered NHL-ready.
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+1 #41 jasonontheoldsenschirp 2011-03-23 01:26
Spezza is amazing. I'm still incredibly impressed with the way he's played, especially with a roster like ours. I honestly think that he's improved, becoming a more complete, two-way playmaker. By and large our best player.

Eric Gryba should have gotten called up instead of Wiercoch. I thought the plan was to have Gryba called soon anyways, then why Wiercoch? Still years in the AHL away for him in my opinion.

If McBackup made the saves he should have made this would have been a closer game.

He's somewhat of an enigma, McElhinney. He's played decent overall in his starts with the team, but I'm not completely sold yet that he can be a solid back up. There's a reason as to why he's bounced around in the league for so long.

Hopefully Murray can get a better backup for Anderson in the off season. I don't know what it is, but I'm just not completely sold on him yet.

Anyways... one step closer to RNH!
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-1 #42 tommy 2011-03-23 02:17
Thanks for the sharing
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-1 #43 tommy 2011-03-23 02:18
Quoting tommy:
Thanks for the sharing
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-1 #44 tommy 2011-03-23 02:19
Great to see some good news!.
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+3 #45 Canuck Abroad 2011-03-23 02:54
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:


If McBackup made the saves he should have made this would have been a closer game.


It would have been a closer game??? It doesn't get any closer then 4-3... what were you watching...
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+3 #46 Underwood 2011-03-23 03:02
Quoting Canuck Abroad:
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:


If McBackup made the saves he should have made this would have been a closer game.


It would have been a closer game??? It doesn't get any closer then 4-3... what were you watching...


true but McBackup still wasnt very good
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Oh.sorry.just pretend I was never here.
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-1 #47 GreeningTheMonster 2011-03-23 06:17
Quoting GODOT:
Quoting Canuck Abroad:
Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:


If McBackup made the saves he should have made this would have been a closer game.


It would have been a closer game??? It doesn't get any closer then 4-3... what were you watching...


true but McBackup still wasnt very good
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Oh.sorry.just pretend I was never here.

Dude wtf ...?
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-1 #48 RhinoceRoss 2011-03-23 06:47
WOW! what a game, loved every minute of it - especially Brian Lee - I remember at least three times he took his man perfectly and used his size - my favorite being his straight arm on Erik Cole to take him off the puck on a one-on-one situation. This guy is ready now and should definitely be a part of our future plans, regardless of who (Kuba, Carks) has to sit for him to be out there.

Karlssens, agree on Greening but I think Foligno is too good at what he does to be on the third line anymore - the guy is a perfect compliment to offensive minded talented players. His amazing abilities along the boards, incredible speed, and ability to open space for his linemates is making him more valuable by the day, even if he isn't oozing of talent.

Spezza is the star any team needs to succeed, we can win by building around this guy. He proves it more each game and still gets the hate. mystery to me.

Weircioch was awful.
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0 #49 my2sens 2011-03-23 07:47
All I can say is WOW! To take a 99% healthy team like the Canes to the final buzzer with a 60% AHL team... I have to say, I love the effort put forth last night. Will not complain about losing, especially by a goal. Reffing was awful in the last few minutes and Weircioch definitely showed his nerves... but all in all... great game!!
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-2 #50 SensChirp 2011-03-23 07:51
Sens practice at 11:30 this morning in New York. Play the Rangers tomorrow night.
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-2 #51 my2sens 2011-03-23 08:08
Can anyone answer me this? Are we now 'officially' out of the playoffs? Mathematically? We have 9 games left, which would give us 18 points... tie us with Buffalo... but we have less goals for...
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-3 #52 BruinBlaster 2011-03-23 08:09
Coaches and GM's need to show off their draft picks. Gryba was NOT a Murray pick, so he will be at the bottom of the list even though he is playing well. Weircioch is a second rounder under Murray. Now Murray looks like a smuck and Gryba is probably thinking let me out of this organization. So much for partiality!


Quoting jasonontheoldsenschirp:
Spezza is amazing. I'm still incredibly impressed with the way he's played, especially with a roster like ours. I honestly think that he's improved, becoming a more complete, two-way playmaker. By and large our best player.

Eric Gryba should have gotten called up instead of Wiercoch. I thought the plan was to have Gryba called soon anyways, then why Wiercoch? Still years in the AHL away for him in my opinion.

H!
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-2 #53 Hax 2011-03-23 08:20
Projected bottom 5:

Islanders - 82 pts
Florida - 76 pts
Ottawa - 74 pts
Colorado - 69 pts
Edmonton- 63 pts
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+6 #54 Hax 2011-03-23 08:21
Quoting RhinoceRoss:

Weircioch was awful.


Yeah - after one NHL game I've decided that he sucks. Jesus man, give it time.
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-2 #55 Timmac 2011-03-23 08:22
Phillips Lee
Gonchar Cowen
Karlsson Rundblad

This does look rally good if Lee keeps his play up. But he has always played really well with Philips. Remember that Pittsburgh series? I assume people are slating Carkner as #7? I see no reason why Cowan shouldn't start in the AHL. Then Kuba can be played, hopefully to have a bounce-back year, and traded at the deadline. That would be a good time to bring up Cowan I think - at least he gets some AHL experience before being thrown into the NHL.
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+2 #56 krod84 2011-03-23 08:36
so with Spezza's play as of late and the topic of him enjoying his new role as one of the main leaders of the team with alfie on the shelf, is it safe to say that he's the front runner to take over the "C" when Alfie decides to hang them up?
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-1 #57 SENS613 2011-03-23 08:42
Quoting my2sens:
Can anyone answer me this? Are we now 'officially' out of the playoffs? Mathematically? We have 9 games left, which would give us 18 points... tie us with Buffalo... but we have less goals for...


According to @ian_mendes and @Scott MacArthur
#Sens are officially eliminated from playoffs with next loss or next #Sabres win or OT/shootout loss. #NHL
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-2 #58 my2sens 2011-03-23 08:46
Quoting SENS613:
Quoting my2sens:
Can anyone answer me this? Are we now 'officially' out of the playoffs? Mathematically? We have 9 games left, which would give us 18 points... tie us with Buffalo... but we have less goals for...


According to @ian_mendes and @Scott MacArthur
#Sens are officially eliminated from playoffs with next loss or next #Sabres win or OT/shootout loss. #NHL


Thanks!!!
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-2 #59 Timmac 2011-03-23 08:49
@krod84: Hells yes!

Also r.e. the draft: It seems that the team is into drafting whoever has the highest ceiling. That is either RNH or Strome. Honestly, I don't know which I prefer - RNH is ranked higher and he's a bit bigger, but there are concerns that he only seems to score on the PP and against weak teams. So I'm about equally excited about either.

Importantly, this means that i don't care if the Sens end up picking 4th - likely to take Strome. given that they sit 2nd, having played more games than Colorado, there is little to no chance of the Sens screwing up a top 4 pick by winning too much.

The moral (for me): finally, I can unambiguously cheer for the Sens to win for the remainder of the season. And that feels great.
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-2 #60 Zira1 2011-03-23 09:06
Can someone tell me how the Fisher trade to Nashville is designed? The Preds are now in 11th overall and on a 4 game winning streak with 8 gms left. I know the Sens get their 1st round but there are other conditions as well I believe.
BTW..good win by Elliot and the Avs last nite.
Tks
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0 #61 SENS613 2011-03-23 09:15
I'm not sure if any SENS fans were a bit worried about Lehner and his fiery personality, seems almost a bit cocky to me.

via James Gordon @ Citizen:

-Lehner on Anderson signing and his continued development:

"And it couldn’t be better than sign a goalie like Anderson, too, because he helps me a lot during practices. He talks to me. He gives me pointers and stuff like that. He’s a quality teammate — even if it takes me one year, two years, three years or even 10 years..."

I really liked this, considering many ppl were claiming he was being handed a job in OTT:

"I don’t see anything bad, in my stance, because to be honest, people haven’t expected me to go in this year or next year as the first goalie anyway."

I'm slighty comforted.

Good to know our young guns can learn from class veterans like Phillips, Anderson, Gonchar, Alfie, Neiler and Spezz.

-Grow SENS Grow!
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-1 #62 SlickRick 2011-03-23 09:18
Quoting Zira1:
Can someone tell me how the Fisher trade to Nashville is designed? The Preds are now in 11th overall and on a 4 game winning streak with 8 gms left. I know the Sens get their 1st round but there are other conditions as well I believe.
BTW..good win by Elliot and the Avs last nite.
Tks


I believe they also get a 3rd rounder if Nash wins 1 round and a 2nd if they win 2 (or more)
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0 #63 Andrews Theory 2011-03-23 09:23
i think the biggest difference in spezza's game is he realizes that he is it...

he's not on the ice to set up douche bag heatley or anyone else specifically and he's holding onto the puck a bit longer without trying to force a play.

nonetheless, we haven't heard from Patrick in quite some time and that is surely the best indicator that Spezza is playing the best hockey of his career.
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+1 #64 RhinoceRoss 2011-03-23 09:29
my2sens, you're right about the Goals for being the difference there, but they cant mathematically eliminate us based on that yet cause you never know we could win 9 straight and outscore the opposition an insane amount to catch up in that category...but yeah, we're mathematically eliminated as far as real life goes.

Hax, not saying Weircioch's a terrible player, just that it was obvious from last night we need a lot more development time with him, which I've always tried to explain to people who've been slotting him into our top 6 next year...he's a guy who can be very good, but needs to develop a la Brian Lee.
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-3 #65 RhinoceRoss 2011-03-23 09:33
Was anyone else a little confused by the reffing in the last few minutes?? I counted:
-Skinner grabbing Karlsson's stick and then trying to act like he was hooked (refs need to get that out of the game by calling the stick holding more)
-Cole Blatantly tripping...Gree ning?...behind the net while we're trying to tie the game
-Cole basically tackling Nick Foligno behind the play to ruin our 6 on 5 advantage for 20-30 seconds or so.
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-2 #66 Sensnation 2011-03-23 09:33
And that's the Mcbackup we all knew was hiding behind those fluffy stats! Give him a couple more games to properly evaluate him, but let's wait and see if there's not a better one available on July 1st. No need to rush the decision.

Good game by the team last night. I think Wiercioch got a real good taste of the big strides he still has to make ... sadly he reminded me of Kuba back there, except with more potential and better skating ability. Still not sure why they were paired together, doubled up their defensive deficiency.

Spezza is GOD ... k now that I have your attention, nice to see some of you coming around. Every year he has improved in some way or another, and the leadership-matu rity level he's reached this year has been great to watch!
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-2 #67 Tookie 2011-03-23 09:39
@ Rhino

Give it up dude, we lost, thats a good thing!
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-2 #68 RhinoceRoss 2011-03-23 10:37
Quoting Tookie19:
@ Rhino

Give it up dude, we lost, thats a good thing!


Oh no worries here man, I was also rooting for the loss - but its always a shame to lose like that.
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-3 #69 conor smythe 2011-03-23 11:02
Quoting krod84:
so with Spezza's play as of late and the topic of him enjoying his new role as one of the main leaders of the team with alfie on the shelf, is it safe to say that he's the front runner to take over the "C" when Alfie decides to hang them up?


why wait? its pretty obvious this is Jason Spezza's team.
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-4 #70 Sensnation 2011-03-23 11:05
Quoting conor smythe:
Quoting krod84:
so with Spezza's play as of late and the topic of him enjoying his new role as one of the main leaders of the team with alfie on the shelf, is it safe to say that he's the front runner to take over the "C" when Alfie decides to hang them up?


why wait? its pretty obvious this is Jason Spezza's team.


Agreed!
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-2 #71 aligator 2011-03-23 11:17
Quoting Dorkiewicz:
Quoting Acilladon:
cannot say enough about spezza's play these days

Chirp, or anyone who knows.. is the plan to have our top pick play in the big league next year? Just curious if there has been talk and i know this is premeditated considering the daft has not occured.


Murray has said he expects our pick to play in the NHL next year. I doubt we'll fall to 4th pick this year - realistically, we're 1st-3rd (depending on our luck).It's likely that RNH, Larsson or Landeskog will be on our roster next year. Of those 3, Hopkins is the most likely to need AHL 'seasoning' - the other two are generally considered NHL-ready.


That was said when they were trying to justify the Fisher trade. No reason for that now. I would be surprised if our first pick plays here next year.
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+6 #72 Captain Alfie 2011-03-23 11:19
Fun fact of the day

Dany Hately has 24 goals in 71 games played. They must have given him a reduced role playing with Jumbo Joe.
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0 #73 Bandit 2011-03-23 11:42
Ottawa players currently hold the 3 worst +/- stats at the moment (Kuba, Karlsson, Phillips). That to me is our most glaring problem right now. I don't care how many point Karlsson is putting up if he is sitting dead last in +/- and with Phillips right beside him on that list I am slightly worried going forward.

All three of them better pick up their defensive game or we're not going anywhere near the playoffs.

Also where is this offensive upside of Lee's? It's certainly not reflected in his point production, but I completely agree he is developing very well defensively.
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-1 #74 Sandy 2011-03-23 14:08
Quoting BruinBlaster:
Sad thing is Wiercioch does struggle in his own end in the A so this is really no surprise. Tough position to be in, a defensive liability in the A (-13)and then you get called up. On the ice for 3 of 4 goals, at least he knows what to work on, strength and toughness. I hope he bounces back to the A to keep learning the game.


A lot of that has to do with the partner he had in Kuba...
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-1 #75 Sandy 2011-03-23 14:10
Quoting Peter Sidørkiewicz:
Colin Greening - "The Newfie Rocket"



Love that quote.... Greening is becoming my fav player. He had better be with the Sens next season.
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-1 #76 Sandy 2011-03-23 14:14
Quoting Dorkiewicz:
Quoting Acilladon:
cannot say enough about spezza's play these days

Chirp, or anyone who knows.. is the plan to have our top pick play in the big league next year? Just curious if there has been talk and i know this is premeditated considering the daft has not occured.


Murray has said he expects our pick to play in the NHL next year. I doubt we'll fall to 4th pick this year - realistically, we're 1st-3rd (depending on our luck).

It's likely that RNH, Larsson or Landeskog will be on our roster next year. Of those 3, Hopkins is the most likely to need AHL 'seasoning' - the other two are generally considered NHL-ready.


If RNH does not make the Sens -- it's back to Junior. He is not eligible for the AHL.
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-1 #77 Sandy 2011-03-23 14:21
Quoting Bandit:
Ottawa players currently hold the 3 worst +/- stats at the moment (Kuba, Karlsson, Phillips). That to me is our most glaring problem right now. I don't care how many point Karlsson is putting up if he is sitting dead last in +/- and with Phillips right beside him on that list I am slightly worried going forward.

All three of them better pick up their defensive game or we're not going anywhere near the playoffs.

Also where is this offensive upside of Lee's? It's certainly not reflected in his point production, but I completely agree he is developing very well defensively.



A lot of that can be attributed to the goaltending earlier in the season... when every mistake ended up in the net.

Since Anderson/McBack up have played I would be curious of the +/- of some of those players in just those games. I think it would tell a different story.
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-1 #78 Hax 2011-03-23 17:15
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Ottawa players currently hold the 3 worst +/- stats at the moment (Kuba, Karlsson, Phillips). That to me is our most glaring problem right now. I don't care how many point Karlsson is putting up if he is sitting dead last in +/- and with Phillips right beside him on that list I am slightly worried going forward.

All three of them better pick up their defensive game or we're not going anywhere near the playoffs.


If you look at the +/- leaders you'll see plenty of names of guys just lucky to be on a good team. Reverse is true for many Sens. They've all had off years but you can't take +/- at face value.

As for Lee, it seems he's best suited to be more stay-at-home. He certainly has played much better since he basically decided to toss his weight around more and stop worrying about points.
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