Extending Chris Phillips?

SensChirp December 11, 2013 212
Extending Chris Phillips?

As the season crossed the 30 game mark and teams begin posturing for playoff position, Senators General Manager Bryan Murray is already contemplating what to do with a certain defenceman scheduled to be an unrestricted defenceman this off season.

Chris Phillips has played more than 1,100 games in the National Hockey League, all in the uniform of the Ottawa Senators but certainly isn’t ready to hang up the skates just yet. As Ken Warren reported in the Ottawa Citizen on Monday night, the defensive defenceman is hoping to continue his career after his current contract expires and would obviously like to do it in an Ottawa Senators uniform. It will be fascinating to watch how the Senators handle negotiations with Phillips over the course of the rest of the season.

After the debacle that was the Daniel Alfredsson negotiation, you would expect the discussions with another assumed lifetime Senator will be delicate ones for the franchise. Add to that the fact that Phillips has the same agent as Alfie (JP Barry) and there is some additional intrigue to the process. As Warren points out in his article, there have been initial conversations but that is as far as it has gone at this point. I would assume the Senators are interested in retaining the veteran defenceman but probably not at “any cost”.

Erik Karlsson, Marc Methot, Jared Cowen and Patrick Wiercioch are all under contract for next season. Mark Borowiecki, who is currently in Binghamton on a two way contract, will have a one way deal and is expected to be a part of the NHL roster next season. Restricted free agent Eric Gryba will also need a new contract and despite his solid play this season, it seems unlikely Joe Corvo gets another contract after this season.

On paper there still appears to be a spot available for Phillips but that assumes that the team doesn’t expect to add through free agency. The Senators have been rumoured to be in the market for a defenceman for the last few weeks so clearly Murray and his staff don’t see the blue line as being entirely settled this season and beyond.

Considering the off season drama involving Alfredsson, it will be really interesting to see how the Senators handle the talks with another potential lifetime Senator. Something to keep an eye on as this season progresses.

Should the Senators bring Chris Phillips back next season and beyond? What would be a fair contract for the one they call “Big Rig”?

  • Pasky

    Yes.

    Give him a 2 year 2.5M contract. Our defence is too young and inexperienced, and that’s with Phillips in the lineup. He’s still good as long as you don’t have to use him 20+ minutes a night, which is what were doing.

  • Conor_smythe

    I’ve been all over Phillips and his lousy play for a lot longer than anyone I know. He has play inconsistently since Volchenkov was traded. Whatever it was, he just never seem to gel with any linemate we gave him (Karlsson, Gonchar, Lee, Cowen)

    Now that Joe Corvo is in the picture, Phillips seems to be playing competently. The way that Corvo skates and gets open, makes the right play, is bringing out the best of Phillip’s veteran abilities. Unfortunately, I see it as too little too late.

    It would be really nice to see Phillips continue to play the way he has the past 2 weeks. But Chirp said it, Corvo likely isnt coming back (even though I would sign him ahead of Phillips) and that means “what is number 4 going to look like playing alongside patrick wiercioch, or cody ceci”?

    My guess: bad!

    Bryan Murray LOVES to sign too many guys-too far ahead of time and handcuff himself to rosters, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see phillips get a new contract and then next year we’re all pissed about our crowded blueline/no room for Ceci

    I wouldn’t give phillips 1 million dollars to play for this team. not because he isn’t worth the money, but because there’s (a LOT of) other guys I would rather give the ice time

    • Conor_smythe

      If we’re a playoff team: keep Phillips until the summer, trade his rights
      If we’re not: trade Phillips for 2 draft picks before trade deadline

    • spezzerman

      Ceci has to earn his playing time. you have to have 6 guys you know are competent NHLérs to start the year and then let Ceci and Claesson prove they are more deserving of a spot. That is part of the problem this year, too many guys playing roles they arent quite ready for.

      • Tooks

        Cowen didnt “earn” his spot, he’s been playing horribly and still gets to play ahead of others?

        I dont think we had 6 competent guys to start the year this year…

        Ceci & Claesson would be a breath of fresh air and would also bring with them a breakout!!

        • spezzerman

          do you know the definition of insanity? Listen, please don’t respond to my posts. Your opinion is meaningless to me. Just assume from here on out that I don’t agree with you and save yourself some time and energy.

          • Tooks

            You mean dont reply on a blog, that would be insane…

  • boom

    Well, he’s on the 1st unit PP and 1st unit PK, so he must be their best D, right Coach?

    • Miguel

      Someone needs to question this with our coaching staff… and did you see him in the OT? He was simply terrible
      there is not one coach in all of sports that would ever consider playing CP4 more minutes than Karlsson… or even Methot, Corvo for that matter… just extremely bizarre and frustrating for me

      • boom

        I wish someone would ask MacLean that since he obviously thinks Phillips has enough offensive talent to be on the 1st unit PP, then how come he wasn’t one of the 10 shooters he chose to use in the shoot-out?
        Don’t say it’s because he’s a defenceman – that won’t wash.
        Watching him on the PP and 4 on 4 was embarrasing, and don’t think for a minute that guys on the bench don’t think the same thing.

        • Miguel

          thank god I am not the only one who is noticing this!
          How many other teams have you ever seen put their top “shutdown” guy who has never played PP, start playing him at 36????
          it is absolutely illogical… damn right insane!

  • spezzerman

    They should bring him back as long as he is willing to take a contract between 1-1.5M per year and play the #6 role with occasional nights off to let some of the young guys get their games in. I suspect Gryba and Corvo wont be back and I feel both Ceci and Claesson will really push for a spot next year. Phillips will definitely have value on the Sens next couple years in a mentor type role

    • Tooks

      Haha you know CP4 plays 1st unit PP and 1st unit PK, he wont take 1-1.5 and play 6th D. He can get more elsewhere and by all means I hope he goes elswehere.

      • spezzerman

        He will if he wants to stay on as a Sen. My point is, sign him to your terms, not his. If he wants to test the market, more power to him.

        • Tooks

          Please dont respond to my posts, your opinion is meaningless to me.

    • runningbear1974

      no, that’s a bad idea to have Philips mentoring people… I don’t want him showing the young guys how to play… I believe that’s a very bad idea…

      • spezzerman

        how to be a pro and play 1100 NHL games? yes, he adds value there. This is such a ridiculous statement. Its like saying coaches who are ex players cant teach because they are no longer good players. Also -prospective UFA’s do look to see how an org treats aging veterans.

        • Tooks

          See the problem with your arguement is that Phillips played in a different era, he would be teaching clutch and grab style, he wouldnt be teaching positioning and skating style which is what you need in this era.

          Phillips would be teaching them the old way of playing D.

          • spezzerman

            last time I will ever respond to you. What is Luke Richardson – he of the clutch and grab era – teaching Ceci and Claesson, or any of the other young dmen in our system?

          • Tooks

            Luke isnt still playing, his coaching strategy isnt to clutch and grab, do you even watch Bingo games?

            CP4 still plays and still plays the old way, he doesnt know any better and quite honestly doesnt have the skill to play other styles..

            Before you make your final statement it would be wise to atleast check your statement for inconsistencies.

          • Doc

            The hell are you talking about??

          • SensChirp

            Also silly.

          • Doc

            It’s only going to get worse around here Chirp. I feel for you…

        • runningbear1974

          Philips is physically strong, and a good skater… He has always (even now) been really good one on one against the guy with the puck… Because he’s big, strong, and relatively good skater…
          But, he has always been terrible at making decisions… Very terrible… Look how often the puck goes from his stick, to someone on the other team… That’s poor decisions…
          My claim is his ability comes from his body, and not from his mind…So, not anything to mentor about….

        • TookieIs100PercentRight

          I’m fine with Phillips showing young players how to do up their ties and where to go for dinner. The young defencemen can take care of stuff like moving the puck, skating and actually playing defence.

      • SensChirp

        Silly

        • runningbear1974

          Even last night there were a whole bunch of moments when i thought “oh no” Philips… He makes bad decisions…
          If we had 6 Philips in his prime, would that be good? Or, how about 6 Methots? No brainer for me, Methot is way more dependable, versatile, and makes better decisions… I want him to teach the young guys…

          • SensChirp

            Haha a player “mentoring” another player does not tell him- skate this speed or make this bad decision.

          • runningbear1974

            my bad… i thought mentoring was showing how to play the game…showing them your vision of the game…

          • CrackAttack

            I find this amusing. Just because Philips can’t necessarily execute as well as he maybe would want to, doesn’t mean he can’t tell younger defencemen what they should be doing to have success.

            Kind of funny people are suggesting he can’t mentor someone because he can’t play at that perfect level himself. And yet, here we have everyone on this board, who’s never played a lick of high-level hockey (including me!), continue to offer advice for the team on how they should play the game! A nice definition of hypocrisy!

          • runningbear1974

            My argument is that his play has never been the mental part of the game… Therefore there’s no evidence to believe he has mental stuff to pass to the young guys… I could be wrong, i just don’t see it on the ice…

    • RUSH RLZ

      This is exactly what I was thinking myself. I’m no GM that is for damn sure but ~1.2M max for max two years seems about where the sweet spot should be at. Knowing Barry he will probably be pushing for 3.25M x 3 years with an NTC and NMC thrown in for good measure…

      • Miguel

        precisely my point… they will use the Alfie fiasco as leverage.
        to Euge – you fuked up by letting Alfie, you cannot fix it by giving a declining player, who you can never sit, regardless of how shit he plays, more money than he is worith
        Phillips should be a 6-7 dman, and paid that way, or best of luck to you on the open market Big Rig!

    • Sandy

      Bring up Ceci & Claesson next year? Who would they be paired with?
      The pairing of Cowen & Wiercioch both have been struggling as they learn in the NHL — you can assume that would happen with Ceci & Claesson.
      So some Sens fans would have 4 defensemen to throw under the bus… if that is the case..
      Having those 4 young D. plus Karlsson at age 22/23, leaves you Marc Methot as the veteran… the one and only veteran.

      So putting two young players together is not the answer and not the way to properly develop young D-men…
      Cowen and/or Wiercioch would not be experienced enough to mentor two other young D…

      • spezzerman

        I just said they will push. I dont expect them to be on the opening night roster and I certainly dont want them paired up.

  • Tooks

    TOR and PHI watch tonight, I cant believe its already to that point…So sad.

  • runningbear1974

    I think MacLean is demonstrating that if Philips is on roster, he gets premium ice time…

    • Tooks

      Which is mind boggling…

      • Miguel

        and I will one up that and say playin him like PM is playing him is downright wrong! and foolish.
        in the 5-6 role maybe

  • Alcatraz

    I have no problem extending Chris Phillips

    Even though he may not be the flashiest player, or the most reliable, he is one of our oldest and one of our biggest supporters

    Heaven forbid we ever go on another Cup run, well Spezza has to have that “long time vet to never win a cup” to hand the cup over to first

    Right now all our hopes rely on Phillips or Neil or Spezza for being career Senators, and in a young franchise I think thats important to have

    As for contract: 2 years 4 mill

    • Conor_smythe

      “Even though he’s not reliable I would sign him… because he’s old”

      – Albert Einstein

      • Alcatraz

        may not be the most reliable
        If we can find room for a gilroy/lundin/corvo/Richardson/Smith type player every year we can find room for a player like Phillips

        • Conor_smythe

          Chris phillips will get 4 million/season on the open market

          I don’t think we’re talking about Lundin/Gilroy money here

          Anybody who says “I would sign him for 1.5 million” is delusional

          At best, he takes a hometown discount and signs for the same as what he’s making now.

          I guarantee no team signs Phillips for less than 3 million

          you still want to keep him?

          • TookieIs100PercentRight

            Not at 4 million. He can go shlep beers instead.

    • Tooks

      Silly

    • karlsson65

      I agree it’s important that the org lock down a “career Sen.” Also don’t forget Phillips elevates his game in the playoffs which is huge. I just wish he played his proper role as 5/6 and nil PP time. I could accept 2 years for 5.5-6M. We can’t low ball the guy, he WILL make more on the open market. Or do you want another Alfiegate scandal? Same agent, same risk.

      • Miguel

        OMG CP4 is NOT Alfie!
        He is overhyped and overvalued on this team.
        he would at best be a 6-7 D-man on any good team.
        Yes we fuked up with Alfie… please lets not fuk up again and sign him to some stupid contract….PLEASE!

        • TookieIs100PercentRight

          This. I will personally boo him at any ceremony we have for him.
          Can’t wait until he and the other plug Neil are gone so we can fill those roles with younger, cheaper players.

  • RUSH RLZ

    People across Ottawa seem surprisingly calm about the result last night. Is it sinking in with people that maybe our squad is not nearly as good as we thought, losses are to be expected, even against shitwipe teams?

    • boom

      Pathetic efforts breed apathy.

    • Conor_smythe

      soooo.. its not the schedule’s fault anymore?

      I’m confused. I thought we were losing games because of the schedule.

      if its not the schedule, then.. that… means…. noooooooooooooo!

      • sprucesens

        lol. exactly what I’ve been thinking for a while. It’s a lose lose though. Its kinda like “see, I told you our team stinks!” I would have rathered been wrong. Hopefully they still can get out of this funk. At least the play has improved the last few games of important players like spezza and cowen. Hopefully there is no suspension for cowen, as he was just starting to find his groove.

    • Tooks

      Well apparently Buffalo are not a bad team, I mean sitting in dead last in the NHL doesnt matter as long as you have good young players…

  • Alcatraz

    Anyone else actually super pumped that we have only scored 2 goals versus Buffalo this year in 2 games, yet still managed 3 points???

    • SenaTHOR

      I’d be pumped if they weren’t a last place team.

  • Pasky

    So Cowen’s got a meeting with Shanaban for a hit against Grigensons… Anyone see the hit? Or do you have a link to it.

  • Luc Wolfe

    I don’t have any issue with this… But seriously he’s not the priority to sign… It’s not like he’ll go to Detroit next season. Get a top 6 (proven one) and give one of our young asset in the back for a veteran dman. If Murray extend Phillips. I think it means that Murray isn’t trading to help the performance of the club. I’d give a shot with redden could be a good partner for Phillips at a cheap price and that be our third line. Wasn’t the biggest redden fan but he could be a steal at the moment

    • runningbear1974

      maybe we should trade him to detroit…

  • Conor_smythe

    Hey, how much did Filip Kuba sign for last offseason?

    • Miguel

      yes way too much, and was a very regrettable signing from the onset, just as Gonchar was… great decision to let them go, and same thing for Phillips

  • Tooks

    Cowen has hearing today as tweeted by Hockey Central. I think 1 game will be thrown at him.

    • iKarly65

      As he should. I said last night that’s his 2nd hit where the head has been the principle point of contact, but first that has been called for a hearing. I think after the Datsyuk fiasco they will not let him go unpunished here.

      Too bad since he’s been on the up after being a scratch, but he’s gotta keep it legal. Can’t be doing that, or it’ll come back to hurt the Sens. There’s a lot of players that’ll take liberties on our stars.

      • CUP 2014-15

        No big deal, he will get one game and Gryba will get his one game in the line-up. He hasn’t played since the win against FLA. So he will play, they will win and he will sit the next 3,4 or 5 (rot in the stands).

  • iKarly65

    For sentimental purposes, I can see him re-signing, so he can surpass the team lead for most games played.

    He’s also really established here, so it also is pragmatic of him to want to stay.

    But despite up and down fluxes in his play, I’m torn. Never really been a huge fan, but I do acknowledge when he does something good. Is he replaceable within? Is there a better option via trade or FA? Also have to keep in mind that the cap floor will probably be at or slightly more than the Sens current payroll. Might need to spend just to be compliant.

  • Jacques

    iS THIS A cOUNTRY cLUB OR A PROFESSIONAL hOCKEY tEAM. cAN’TRESIGN aLFIE BUT WILL RE-UP pHILLIPS. cOME ON LET HIM FINISH OUT ELSEWHERE. 2-3 mILLION FOR A 7 TH d-MAN DOESN’T MAKE SENSE. dO THE RIGHT THING FOR ONCE mURRAY.

    • Jacques

      No Offence Chris I love you but seriously…

    • Doc

      Easy on the coffee, Jacques.

      • Jacques

        Sorry guys Cap locks but seriously can this organization start to make some moves that make sense a little. I was iffy on him signing last time.

    • AusieSen

      You type like a spastic lobster.

    • Tooks

      Whoa calm down bud, dont have to get all angry! :P

    • Miguel

      no surprise here but I completely agree, if we can cut ties with Alfie, then we can easily cut ties with CP4!
      one bad decison should not be covered up by another bad decision

  • CUP 2014-15

    As bad as this may sound to some, we may need him, unless you like the look of 5-6 being a rotation of Gryba, Boro and Cody. That’s assuming JC and Patty settle into the 3-4 slots. CC may be ready and Gryba/Boro were very good when they played together this year(limited sample size) but they played as a pair in Bingo so who knows.

    • SenaTHOR

      I think the writing is on the wall for Gryba. For some reason I don’t think the Murrays never liked him but they are too cheap to waive him and lose a small asset. They don’t need to play him to prove their pick since he wasn’t their pick. BM’s trying to get Cowen and Wiercioch to live up to thier pick status(haven’t looked to bad against bottom feeding teams). There is no way that he would want to play here and sit on the bench next year. ZERO chance!

      • CUP 2014-15

        Sadly, I agree. If he ever sees the ice again as a Sen, I suggest fans take notice of how often players head right for the bench after he lays on what appears to be an average hit. he’s a mountain and hits like a truck. Should be easy to add another one of those in the organization with a right handed shot. He will be a very good shut down D and PK player for someone, you are correct yet again Thor. Don’t see any player in the league putting up with this unless they are vets playing out their career.

  • Richard Gough

    If the Sens are out of the play off Murray needs to trade him I still think we can get a late 1st for him or a solid prospect

    It’s time to cut the fat off from this team

    • Tooks

      LOL WTF a lat 1st for CP4?? Are you on bath salts?
      We’ll be lucky if we can even get a 4th rounder.

      • Conor_smythe

        disagree. Phillips is a seasoned vet with loads of playoff experience. His play has declined, but his value around the league as a deadline acquisition should be humongous. We might not get an outright first for him, but a conditional first wouldnt surprise me, especially if he re-signs with the team he’s traded to

        People are saying detroit, but I would bet on Boston being most interested

  • esk

    off topic but how the hell did ORPIK get knocked out cold from those punches from THORNTON?

    • Richard Gough

      Yes he did he ended up with a concussion

    • CUP 2014-15

      ever take a hockey glove to the head when there is nowhere for your head to go to absorb some of the force? Nasty. it’s like a 220 lb athlete hitting you in the face with a rock from a foot away. Damage done.

      • esk

        yes but from the clip..didnt look like thor put any forcee..and iv seen that done many times in scrums…guess he hit him at the perfect spot to knock him out. Just found it odd. If orpik got up…bet thor would only get 1-2 games

        • CUP 2014-15

          They will also look at the fact he slew footed him to start and getting a facewash is not even in the same ballpark as having his head on the ice, taking shots to the face. I agree it did not look that bad but I am not surprised at all that there is damage done. Don’t be surprised at a 10-15 game suspension.

          • SenaTHOR

            Remember Orpik is a thunder hitter which means that he is stopping very quicky as well. He has to have previous concussion issues. Just the same Thornton crossed the line big time.

          • CUP 2014-15

            No Question, reminded me a bit of Matt Carkner on Boyle two yrs ago. The difference was that Boyle wasn’t hurt, Carks came at him face to face, Carks dropped the gloves and with that I was still surprised he didn’t get more for the attack. Make no mistake that I loved what he did going after him and putting an end to the abuse of EK. That being said, there is no place in the game for that.
            I am tired of all the fights over clean hits, not saying Orpik is a clean player but the hit on Eriksson was a clean solid hit and then we end up with this. Hits are a part of the game and so is fighting but that does not mean they need to be connected.

    • FBP

      Google some topless Thornton pictures and then drop a 300 pound weight on your foot while standing on cement and it’ll answer your question.

      • RUSH RLZ

        WTF? LOL.

    • Alcatraz

      Also Thornton hits him with an UFC style side elbow to the head from my angle I saw. Those elbow pads would knock anyone out

  • Miguel

    I am at my wits end with this damm BS we have going on with CP4- warning another Rant so skip this if you dont want to hear it.
    I know damn well this will be very unpopular with those who feel a certain “friendship” with our players, but I am not here to win a popularity contest. All things being equal CP4 is getting an easy ride from our management our coaching staff and the media
    Allow me to say that CP4 is an absolute gentleman, a classy individual and all around great guy… but for the love of god he is one of the worst top 4 D-man in the league!
    Question why is it that some players continually get the bums shaft from media and fans ie Spezza.
    Yes Spezza can be questioned about leading the team, and his leadership has us sitting out of a playoff spot…
    However CP4 being an Assitant Captain, who is leading the team in minutes, on a team that happens to be near the top of scoring, so scoring is not the problem. But the defense is brutally awful in their own end, and struggling defensively even though we should have one of the top tending tandems in the league…. Yet CP4 is playing great????? WTF!!!
    He is a big part of the problem with this struggling team, Yes Corvo is helping him with his shit game, but anyone else paired with him sucks…. but not Phillips it must be the young guys he is paired with
    Cmon people, his game deteriorated 3 years ago, yet he is still rewarded with huge minutes?
    And to cap it off, and where I now question the coaches, and am about to throw in the towel on the season, we have CP4 playing more minutes than Karlsson a Norris trophy winner, and is playing on OT 4 on 4 and looked way out of his league.
    Sorry but I cannot take this BS anymore, and when we lose one of the most respected Captains we have ever had, signing CP4 is one wrong move followed by a worse move
    CP4, you either play for 1 mil a year, as a 6-7 d-man or we wish you all the best with your future endeavours
    /rant

  • Bob

    There are a lot of people who are saying this team sucks huge donkey balls, same people are calling for trades. Seriously, if some of our players suck that bad, who the hell do you think will trade for them?? and what would be get back? bigger donkey balls..

    • Hax

      But, but, but … on NHL13 I can trade OBrien and Filatov for Jordan Staal!

      LOL

      Patience is the key here people but there aren’t a lot of patient people on the internet.

      • Tooks

        You can get much better in NHL 14!

  • RUSH RLZ

    Hoffman sent back to Bingo…. *sigh*

    • SensChirp

      No sense in him watching games from the pressbox here, I guess. Could use another centre on the roster so would expect Pageau or Grant gets a chance next.

      • RUSH RLZ

        It is just we can’t be much worse right? It’s to the point where this is starting to look like probably no playoffs which means it ought to serve as a building year. Same thing that boggles my mind about Z-Bad’s limited role, our guys getting Bingo call-ups then not really given much of an opportunity etc…

      • Tooks

        Whats the point in even bringing them up if they aint gonna use em? 2 games worth…come on man. What the fuck are the Sens Management doing man. Its gotten to be a complete joke.

      • Tooks

        Actually SC your on to something there…
        Pageau or Grant up so Mika can go top 6.

        Mac Spezza Ryan
        MM9 Turris Zibanejad
        Greening Pageau Condra

        Switch up Ryan and Zib when you feel like.

        • CUP 2014-15

          like this with
          little rat, smitty, neiler
          greening, grant/JGP Condra
          the other thought is to give Stone a shot at Centre, his natural position’
          does it really matter if they only get 1 game to show what they can do as units, before it gets thrown back in the mixing bowl. Sorry just a little upset at how our season is going. Give theses lines a chance to develop and lets see where we are and what we need.GO sens GO

      • boom

        Yeah, but why was he watching from the pressbox in the first place? You honestly think he was given a fair shot?

    • CUP 2014-15

      He got his chance big time the way this coaching staff is. Top prospect, got two game look, played 5 min in game three sat game 4 and 5. Good-bye kid.

  • Hax

    Ugh. This article is just going to lead to hundreds of “Phillips Sucks” comments.

    • Doc

      Like every other posts lately, it brings out the best of our fan base…

  • LeafsSux

    Im with Hax on this.. Those on here that say he sucks or this guy sucks and boy does this guy suck that bad?! Do you realize these individuals are in the elite hockey league in the world?! If you are skating in this league you DO NOT suck.. Until you show me you can skate or defend against these guys stay on the couch and watch.. Now back to the question at hand.. Yes I think we should resign him? Ill let you know closer to seasons end.. ;)

    • RUSH RLZ

      Coming from the guy whose username contains the word SUX. LOL.

      I’m not saying anyone “sucks” CP4 has done an ass-load for our organization and it would be nice for him to retire a career Senator. I just hope we don’t overpay for him, he is in the twilight for sure and we have lots of youth coming up behind him as well.

      • LeafsSux

        Yeah.. But I used the word appropriately.. lol

        • Luc Wolfe

          Looking at the standings at the moment… no … in 3 weeks… Yes

        • RUSH RLZ

          Yeah your username is great don’t get me wrong. Just currently the “SensSuxMore”

      • Jacques

        If he takes a million fine stay onboard as a 7th D-man coach type guy.

        • Jacques

          But if Phillips is smart he does like Alfie and goes make 2 million plus elsewhere, no hard feelings.

    • boom

      Speaking for myself, I have never said any player sucks. What I will say, however, is that MacLean does.
      As long as keeps playing Chris Phillips as much as he has been, and in the situations he has been, MacLean sucks.
      As long he keeps thowing Greening and Condra out there as much or more than someone like Mika Zibanejad, he sucks.
      As long as he continues to let some players make the same mistakes time and time again, and does not afford the same luxury to his younger players (who may actually be able to learn) he sucks.
      I guess that makes me less of a fan, eh? At least, in the eyes of all of you
      never criticize the home team” group.

      • Alcatraz

        Heaven forbid we go one year without Maclean not being nominated for the Jack Adams

        Lindy Ruff and Barry Trotz were/are two of the best coaches in the NHL and they were always given the benefit of the doubt over there 10+ years with their team

        How about Mike Babcock in Detroit? How dare he split up Datsyuk and Zetterberg!!

        Same goes for many successfull coaches. The one thing we, as fans, dont have is trust in our team

        We may not agree with everything, but if were gunna cheer and proclaim our players/coaches are the best (as early as this past September) then we better not be fucking hypocritical 3 months later when thinsg don’t go our way

        For you to actually say maclean sucks, 2 years after being nominated and then winning the jack adams award in a landslide is disgraceful

        • LeafsSux

          You beat me to it….

        • Miguel

          ahhh we just lost to the last place team.
          Alcatraz are you telling me that you agree with everything your Jack Adams winner has done this year?
          Did you not have higher expectations for this team?
          PMac is playing a 36 year old shutdown d-man, more than he is playing a Norris Trophy winner…
          He sits the player of the week goalie after 3 huge wins, bc he is sticking with his #1
          He then sits his #1 after winning a huge game in FLA
          And I am not allowed to question the coach? hell i am not saying he sucks. I am afraid he has lost his fukin mind!!!

          • Alcatraz

            I may not agree with everything he is doing, but for once we actually have a coach that seems to be well liked, well respected and has brought us success. Something we haven’t had since Bryan Murray was at the helm. Since then its been a revolving door. If it was up to fans we would be firign him right now

          • Miguel

            questioning some of these bizarre moves is far from firing him.
            However it seems that he is not being questioned on many questionable moves, and his responses to some of our losses are frankly the coaches problems to fix.
            PMac
            “best players will play”
            Wrong Pmac you in fact are NOT doing what you say WHY?
            “We were not ready” worst excuse I have ever heard from a professional… but WHY?
            “we are what we are”
            you are a team that is drastically under performing… WHY is that?

        • CUP 2014-15

          I like Mac and still think hes a good coach but I can’t believe your comparing him to Babs. By the way his moves (like breaking up PD and HZ is different because it brought results and WINS. Don’t compare apples to Oranges. Remember Ted Nolan ( the winning coach from last night, winner of the JA and then what…One good year does not make a career and even the most optimistic fan must admit this seasons coaching moves has been like the F#@king twilight zone.

  • esk

    i would assume the sens internal budget to increase after this season…its the end of the three year rebuild plan…cap is increased by 12%…lots of $$ going back to teams…phillips for sure gets signed to a 2 year deal

    • CUP 2014-15

      The salary cap floor will be 52m next year. team is committed to 14 players for 46m. UFA’S Are Milo, Kass, Philly and Corvo. RFA’S are THE LEHNER, Conacher, and Gryba. The other important part is that the following year the entire top line (Spezz, Bobby and CMac) are all UFA’S Along with Methot. Would love to see them sign at least two of the big guys this summer, all four would be great. So as we can see the payroll is due to skyrocket the following year.
      Lets say the team said good-bye to Philly, and resign Robin for oh lets say 2.5 m up from 870g, and Conacher for 1m, they say bye bye to the rest. They will be at 48m, 4m below the floor and need to sign 4 more starters and the extras. If the self imposed cap also goes up 12%, we will have 8m to fill out the roster and still be 15m below the cap. The future is still bright the only question to ask is how far do you want to go money wise next year knowing what you are looking at in 2015-16 to resign the fab four…

      • esk

        supposedly your going to see players get paid much more..the salary cap is suppose to increase close to 100mill over the next few years…players like stamkos are expected to earn 12-14 per year…now the question for subban is does he sign a long-term contract now? or sign 3year contract and cash-in later?….hopefully we get spezza and bobby signed now lol

        • CUP 2014-15

          Agree that is why I would love to see them sign at least two of the big boys this summer. Spezz should be the easy one as he will not go much higher then he is now unless this team gos nuts in the last 50. Methot will need at least a 2m raise and there is no way Bobby will be less then Spezz. CMac is 3,5 so that number will double if he keeps this up. Interesting days ahead. If the internal cap goes to 60m you could give them all big money, tie them up long term and still be well below the cap in years to come. Give them all 5-9m each for five years and move forward. The benefit of a tight budget this year.

  • Jacques

    Hoffman is a great prospect who doesn’t get a fair look. He can play the point on the powerplay and he has a howitzer of a shot(doesn’t even try him there). NO, BUT WE LET CONDRA AND GREENING PLAY EVEN THOUGH THEY BLOW CHUNKS(AND CHUNKS ISN’T THE DOG!). MAN IF iM HOFFMAN i JUST WANT OUT OF THIS BANANA REPUBLIC. SOMETHING IS WRONG IN OTTAWA. Then we bring in poor Pageau and let him play with 22 and 14 wow – what a demotion – poor guy might as well stay in the AHL too – better players there. I’m telling you we could move 5 guys in our bottom 6 and bring up Grant,Pageau,Hoffman,Schneider, and Dziurzynski and be a much better team tomorrow.
    Then still leave Puempel,Prince, and the rest to mature in the AHL.

    • my2sens
      • Jacques

        No reason for this team to be toiling at the bottom of the standings.

        • my2sens

          And none to lose to the worst team in the NHL either…

    • Miguel

      Jacques I feel you pain amigo.
      Right now PMac is starting to really piss me off too!
      Yes we all fell in love with him for turning a team full of misfits into a playoff team. And he deserved the accolades
      However his decsision making with regards to his stars is turning a talented team into a last place team.
      Way to many controversial calls made by this coaching staff, and they must now explain themselves
      “we are what we are” Why
      “we are not ready” Why coach
      “we do not have the effort” ok but WHY
      Why are you limiting Zibby minutes and playing Greening
      Why is Condra, a 7th round pick playing top 6
      Why is CP4 your #1 dman and you team sucks at defense
      why Coach of the Year? Why WHY WHY, is this team projected to be better than last year now losing to the last place Buffalo Sabres!!!
      Brooksy!!! the Ottawa media needs you to ask the tough questions!!!

      • Jacques

        You nailed it Miguel – well said. Listen I know I can say stupid things on here at times but HELL I care about this team, and too many times drastic moves are made on a whim for some while we are patient as Hell with other crappy players! WHY!

      • sprucesens

        yeah, coaching decisions have been crazy. I’ve never been a fan of how little Pmac gives to players that are new to the system. Filatov on the shortest leash I’ve ever seen. Zib down at all? Pageau and da costa pinned down with neil smith and kassian. Hoffman brought up? why? I wanted him in the lineup forever now, then we bring him up and gets like 10 minutes total ice time for all the games he was up? Why did we even waste our time? Now we risk losing what was and still might be the 2nd highest scoring AHL’r in that league on waivers. And more importantly, have likely given him the mindset that he has no place in Ottawa ever, and will not resign with us. Terrible management.
        After seeing the comments about melnyk sending alfie a drunk email about not being worth X dollars and will never get paid that in Ottawa, maybe maclean is trying to send a message to the owner. Give me good players or I will do just enough to keep fans and players guessing. I can’ see no other reason for the moves this year.

  • Sensnation

    “depite his solid play”? – Chirp we are definitely watching a different version of the same player here. Corvo again soft on the player and puck last night leading to the goal against. I don’t care how many points he puts up, his play will never be solid! He’s a complete liability and it’s sad this team needs him as much as they have. Still doesn’t make him better than he is though.

  • The Apostle

    I wasn’t a fan of the last Phillips deal, thought we gave him 1 year too many but he isn’t the biggest of our problems on the blueline, but I would still be very wary of signing him again. Not because of his play per se but any money we pay Phillips is money we can’t be paying somebody else and obviously money remains an issue for this organisation.

    I would rather spend the 2 or 3 million that Phillips may be asking towards somebody like Matt Greene or Dan Giradi (insert UFA of choice here) or for instance insuring that Robin Lehner gets a deal to keep him here for the long term.

  • s3nsfan

    Sorry did i not see that check correctly last night, Jared Cowen suspended 2 games for illegal check to the head on Girgensons

    • my2sens

      BS – I would say 1 game was enough. Why does Phagoof get 2 for boarding (lined the guy up from about 7 feet away, numbers all the way)….

      Guess we didn’t luck out on the wheel of suspension again!

  • sprucesens

    while I fully agree that the hit was a head shot, and suspendable under current rules, at what point are we going to look at the size of the players involved and actually look if the head was targeted. In other words, If the shoulder is what makes contact with the head, it should be considered a clean hit, unless the head was directly targeted. For it to be targeted, the player either has to elbow to the head, or only make contact with the head when a player is leaning/vulnerable. We know cowen was going for a huge hit, but because of his size, his shoulder is at head height, thus making contact first. Whereas his hit against datsyuk a while back was him getting his elbow out to try and make contact. I would have preferred the 2 situations reversed. With no suspension on this his, and 1 game on the last one. Actually, the datsyuk one was his own fault for jumping back out of the way and cowen reacting.
    Its a tough line to draw. And while I fully agree under current rules this hit was suspendable, I feel the rules still need some tinkering. Call it a headshot in game as a penalty regardless, but allow the league to review any suspensions. Never gonna be black and white though.

  • Deadly

    His own fault for trying to avoid a hit. Should Datsyuk get 2 minutes.

  • Deadly

    Would the Sens bring up a d-man. Would love to see Claussen for a couple of games.

    • CUP 2014-15

      Are you insane, they have a young D rotting in the stands and all he has done this year is lead this D core in corsi numbers, +- and overall team winning percentage. If the SENS CONTINUE TO DISTROY this young mans career, I can not and will not support this team under this management team. If they don’t like him save some $$$ (he’s earning 600,000) put him on wavers and you will never have to worry about him again until he arrives in another colour sweater putting Sens on their asses crossing the blue line.

      • Deadly

        Gryba fan here, but would like to see what he might bring.

        • CUP 2014-15

          agreed but watch bingo, not that I am a big fan of simmer on 1200 but he also said today that if Gryba doesn’t play they need to wave him (he will never clear wavers), They are screwing his career

          • Jacques

            He’s an NHL d-man, put him with a puck moving D-man on the third pairing and your in business. Last year he would go toe to toe with Lucic when we played Boston. Never shied away from hitting him.

          • SenaTHOR

            Melnyk is cheap and you won’t get cheaper insurance 600G. They could care less if they screw him. He’s not one of theirs! They had a reputation in the past of really looking after the players/families. That’s been replaced with draft pick loyalty. No wonder we are doing so well!

      • Jacques

        Yeah, not to mention Melnyk owes the kid for winning us that first round series last year. Cuz his hit on that Danish Pastry(Eller), won us that round! Or at least really changed the momentum in that series cuz it was 50-50 up until then.

        • CUP 2014-15

          The good thing is that was a good clean hit and he hits like a truck everywhere he has been .As I said in an earlier post, take the time to watch how many time players head right for the bench after an average hit from him. He hurts people and wingers are less apt to go through the middle of the ice when he is out there.

      • boom

        I agree that Gryba definitely should get another look. I still hold out hope for him.
        I disagree, however, that the blame is with the management, with regards to not using him. MacLean (he won the Jack Adams award, so i must be wrong) is the one who decides the line-up, and the ice-time.

        • CUP 2014-15

          What do you mean by hold out hope, do you feel the same way about PW and Cowen, do you still hold out hope for them ? or are they OK because they are 1st and 2nd round picks? As mentioned check the numbers. He has done his job this year and yet he is sitting and not playing. You don’t have to be a genius to know young players need to play. The last time he played they won but Mac fucked with a winning line-up and loss the next two. Don’t get me going on the mistakes he has made this year and as far as winning the JA last year I guess that gives him golden status for how long? Ted Nolan won the JA what has he done sense. One year a career does not make.

          • boom

            You completely misunderstood me. All i meant was that I still think Gryba can be a good player for us. All he needs is consistent ice-time – not to be yanked from the line-up or benched for every perceived mistake.
            Frankly, I don’t know how you read anything else into my comment?
            As far as MacLean is concerned, scroll down….I challenge you to find anyone who has been harder on MacLean than I have (right or wrong)

          • CUP 2014-15

            sorry be back soon, really sorry, talk soon

          • CUP 2014-15

            Had to run quick, this will sound weird but a couple of horses got out. Sorry and your right I don’t know how I misread that. All I can say is that I had A believe that there was going to be a run of heated rebuts, and didn’t think. I understand that it’s Mac choice who to play

          • Sandy

            But a lot of you would prefer Cowen to rot in the stands… wouldn’t you,,
            But I agree.. ,young guys need to play to learn.
            The issue with Gryba being out is the play of Corvo… not of Cowen or Wiercioch…

      • Senatollah

        Nice rant. Hope you find the team you are looking for elsewhere that treats stars like stars and dime a dozen pieces like stars too. Gryba brings nothing exceptional to the team. Nice role player, easy to replace. Again, sorry to lose you as a Sens fan over a bit player, to each his own.

  • TookieIs100PercentRight

    I honestly couldn’t care less if Phillips is back. He’s a ton past his prime and is a #5 or #6 on a good team. If he does come back, be cheap. No more than $1,000,000 or $2,000,000 on a 1-2 year deal with the ability to trade as needed.

  • Colin

    NHL rulings are a joke. Not trying to minimize Cowen’s hit, but how does Fanoof only get 2 games for almost breaking Millar’s neck? How does Seidenberg not even get a penalty for elbowing Bobby Ryan in the head? Gaustad knocked Winchester out for months a couple of years ago with no penalty either.

    Winchester https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40MHvBproso
    Ryan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqreTu7YDS8

    • Sandy

      The Gaustad hit was an intent to injure and how he got no penalty and not even a review by Shanahan is a mystery to me.
      Same with Seidenberg on Ryan…. or Nischuskin (sp?) — Dallas running through Andy like that..
      There is so much inconsistency with the refs and Mr. Shanahan it’s frustrating..

  • MethotToMyMadness

    This is a hard one to nail down. I honestly think Phillips has earned his place and right to stay, especially with his play this season and the past few. Nobody expected him to be playing in positions, and playing the type of minutes he’s been asked too. And honestly, he hasn’t looked too bad considering the mileage.

    I think the Sens will do what everyone said they would with Alfie, talk to him about a home town discount. Realistically, that’ll be the only option considering all the darn budget talk we’ve heard. In the end, sign him till he retires. Does he really think he’ll get more interest outside of Ottawa? That would be the biggest factor. And would he move, he’s pretty invested in the City. Then again, anything can happen.

  • FistsofNeil25

    So much anger in here today. A lot of it aimed in Paul Maclean’s direction. The man is an outstanding coach. He isn’t doing anything differently than he has the past two seasons. He’s always maybe bizarre line-up decisions so that isn’t anything new. I think he’s doing the best he can with the group he has here. The problem is he just isn’t getting the results right now.

    It’s shocking to see just how many people want the coach canned. How fickle some of you can be. One day he’s our hero and the next he’s everything that’s wrong with the Ottawa Senators.

    Look at is this way, if Maclean were to be fired (which will not happen), who’s to say that anyone else would do a better job with this group? Firing Maclean still doesn’t change the fact that our owner is embarrassing the shit out of our fan-base and his own employees (management, coaching staff, players). It won’t change the fact that Bryan Murray’s hands are tight and he can’t make a deal to improve the team due to the internal budget. It won’t change the fact that too many players on this team have regressed from the last couple seasons.

    Paul Maclean hockey is all about speed, physicality, and puck possession. Unfortunately, there just doesn’t seem to be enough players on this team capable of playing that way right now. If Maclean were to be fired today, he would be hired by another team tomorrow.

    • Sandy

      Too the point and absolutely correct.. Too many fickle fans that can’t handle a struggling team…without firing the coach or trading the players..

    • CUP 2014-15

      I have questioned Mac for about two weeks and I will continue to do so should we see constant moves end exactly as expected end in a bad way. He, like all head coaches shall be held accountable for his coaching. I have never said he should be fired, earlier today I said he was a good coach. I have seen few saying he should go fishing and most that do are trolls. This team needs it’s fans support to aid in a better home record, no doubt and screw anyone who boos their players, as if they don’t care. I still have faith because they have three pts in four games and I don’t give a damn who they beat pt’s are pt’s, however should we see strange changes and in game moves that leave us scratching our heads, do we say anything?

  • Sandy

    If I remember correctly Alfie mentioned he wanted to talk contract during the season but the Sens did not.. (or something along that line).
    Murray mentioned that they wanted to start negotiations after the season ended.. but Alfie wanted to wait until he decided whether he was going to play another year..
    So why would Alfie want to negotiate through the season, if he didn’t know he was going to play or not. Had he decided by season’s end not to come back?
    Sens need a veteran D.. You can’t go with 5 youngs guys + Methot. You think they are struggling this season.. it would be a nightmare next season..
    Hopefully Phillips is more committed to the Sens than Alfie was. I hope JP Barry got his
    revenge on Melnyk with the Alfie deal. You can’t tell me there is not bad blood between the two.

    • runningbear1974

      I don’t know… I’m not so sure losing Philips would make it a nightmare… Methot is great… Karlsson is becoming a young veteran…. Our 3 young guys will be that much more experienced…

  • FistsofNeil25

    I’m really interested to see if Timmy Murray gets the GM job in Buffalo. It’s been suggested for a while now that Tim would take over for Bryan after this season. What does it say about the way Melnyk is running this organization now that Tim would rather go to Buffalo than stay here?

    From what I’ve heard, Bryan Murray just wants to win a Stanley Cup before he retires, but he’s only interested in doing so here in Ottawa. It’s becoming clear that this team isn’t going to be close to contending with this internal budget, so what happens if Bryan retires after this season, and Tim Murray takes the GM job and Dorion and company with him to Buffalo?

    Who’s left to run the show here after this season? There could be some interesting days ahead. Melnyk has created such a negative environment around this team that I’ll be surprised if anyone will want to work here under his ownership.

    • Sandy

      That worries me greatly with Tim Murray leaving with Pierre Dorion in tow. That would greatly benefit Buffalo and greatly damage Ottawa.
      I would think Tim Murray would love to build a team from scratch with no budget hanging over his head..
      The Sens could be in a world of hurt… and the Sabres put the screws to a division opponent..

      • Sensnation

        I’m not sure about the Sabres having no budget, they spend slightly more then Ottawa and have jettisoned 2 of their big stars in recent months with another rumored to go any time this year. It’s looking like a complete rebuild there with no superstar to lead it yet.

        • Sandy

          Their owner has very deep pockets and can spend to the cap if he wants to… The Sens on the other hand have an owner who isn’t reinvesting back in the team.
          Now Yost says– in remarks on the comments page… that the Sens were not getting revenue sharing.. How can that be if this team loses money the way Melnyk says it does.. It makes no sense to me.. Someone is lying… and I think it’s the Owner.

    • Sensturion

      Tim Murray didn’t even want to go to the interview for the Buffalo job. Bryan Murray basically forced him to do it. I’m not too worried.

    • runningbear1974

      I’m more worried about losing Dorion… Losing Tim, less so… Just a feeling…

    • aegiszx

      But as a career move, wouldnt you take it? Tim has long been by Bryan’s side, and maybe just maybe he’s grown out of it. Why take over a team that someone else basically built? It’s the way of the league yes, but maybe for himself, he wants to challenge himself and feels ready for a bigger role…

      Don’t forget, Babcock helped groom 3 of the top coaches in the NHL in Todd Mclean (what was it like 5 years), Paul Mac (who is a very late comer to the NHL coaching scene), and Dan Bylsma (may be wrong, but i think it was with the Ducks).

  • Floridasensfan

    If we keep Phillips and he does not play on the power play I can live with that.
    If we have to play him on the power play then please trade him at the deadline.
    I also think if we keep him it has to be for hockey reasons and not nostalgia.

    • Sandy

      The power play as it was going greatly sucked.. So McLean is trying everything he can with player rotation. After all… they can’t fire Cameron..

  • Miguel

    there have not been many comments aimed at firing Pmac.
    And I am not saying that we should fire him.
    However he is not above being questioned about some of the plainly idiotic moves he has made.
    He alone has caused a goalending controversy. Starting the wrong tender on nights the other should have started… ie Lehner after 3 wins in a row and player of the week.
    Please explain to me how or what makes you believe Condra is a top 6 forward?
    How in the hell does Phillips get more playing time than Karlsson a Norris trophy winner?
    How is it that some players get demoted for farting the wrong way, and some guys go 30 games without a goal and are still on the PP
    These are coaching moves that have all helped us become one of the worst teams in the league this year.
    No dont fire him, but please start making some basic right decisions and I am sure some wins would surely follow.

    • boom

      Everyone calls us idiots for questioning his moves, but nobody can answer any of those questions.

      I already asked, and all i got was “you are disgraceful”…

      • Sandy

        Questioning his moves… yes..
        Calling for him to be fired? No…

        • Luc Wolfe

          Don’t fire the coach but the owner… Aww damn it!!!!

          • Sandy

            If only we could…

      • Miguel

        agreed Boom… I am kind of confused by some of the comments on here.
        Do some believe they are better fans bc they never ever criticize obvious mistakes?
        It is clear that everyone here wants Sens Success, but blindly following some of Pmacs decisions with out questioning, when we are clearly under performing, does not make them better fans than us,
        in fact wanting more from our team does not make us less fans it makes me feel that we are just as hard core fans as anyone else on here.
        All we are asking is for the team to start explaining these moves

      • Tooks

        Welcome to my world.

      • runningbear1974

        hey, i tried a few explanations…

    • FistsofNeil25

      Man, people are really over-reacting to Condra taking a few shifts on a line with Spezza. When did we first see this? Last Tuesday in Florida? Here are Condra’s minutes since last tuesday when he first debuted on Spezza’s line:

      12:13 vs Florida
      12:13 vs Tampa
      11:38 vs Toronto
      12:04 vs Philly
      8:20 vs Buffalo

      Those are no where close to top six minutes. Not even close. Yeah, he’s taken a handful of shifts per game with Spezza, but he hasn’t been used as a full-time top six forward at any point in those 5 games.

      As for Phillips getting more ice-time than Karlsson. Well this is another over-reaction yet again. That only happened last night. 1 out of 32 games. Phillips had more ice-time last night because him and Corvo were the best d-pairing on the ice for the Sens. Plain and simple.

      As for the goaltending controversy, well yeah blame Maclean for that all you want, but if you want someone to blame, look at Anderson’s 68th ranked GAA and 62nd ranked SV%. I don’t blame Maclean for trying to get his number one goalie back on track. Andy has arguably been our MVP since he arrived here a few seasons ago. Any time the team’s number one goalie struggles, there’s going to be a goaltending controversy, especially when there’s an up and coming star coming up through the ranks like Lehner.

      • Miguel

        Did you expect us to be better or worse this year?
        Condra or Greening playing on any top 6 with one of the best cnetres in the league is a questionalble move
        Sitting the goalie who won player of the week after 3 wins is wrong
        Sitting your #1 goalie that just played great after beating FLA is wrong.
        And for the love of god anyone who plays Phillips ONE second more than Karlsson is purely idiotic.
        we are nearl last in the division whenw we were supposed to be better than last year so yes PMac has some splaining to do

    • runningbear1974

      I’d like to try and explain playing Condra with Spezza… Condra or Greening really…
      When Spezza has good linemates… He takes the puck, skates to the boards and passes it to someone else…
      When Spezza has not so good linemates… He takes the puck and tries to score goals…
      Spezza is a much better player when he’s trying to score as opposed to trying to assist…

      • Jason

        The last few games Condra and Greening seem to have really stepped up their games. Andddd Spezza is starting to shoot the puck like we all want him to do. So yea maybe PMac’s “terrible” decisions are working out a bit.

      • Tooks

        LOL you should ask Heatley and Alfie which Spezza is better…LOL just silly…

        • runningbear1974

          I’m not sure what happened… Heatley didn’t want to play with team anymore… Alfie no longer playing with Spezza… I’m not exactly sure why, but it sure didn’t seem like those guys wanted to keep playing with Spezza…
          Spezza was doing as i described, he would skate to boards and launch the puck to Heatley at the other end of the ice, when there was a turnover, Alfie would skate back and cover the middle of the ice…
          And, in the end, that line couldn’t compete against tough competition… It didn’t have enough…

    • runningbear1974

      I agree he has made weird goaltending decisions… But, again they weren’t stupid moves, just moves that didn’t work out… Although, personally, i think should have kept Lehner in with the 3 in a row wins…
      He hasn’t been pulling the goalies… Which, i think we’ve been losing points because of this decision, but, it is a crazy coaching decision… I mean, he’s letting the goalies know that they are in for a full game, so figure it out… Who knows in the long run this might be a wise decision…There’s some tough choices… Don’t want to rush Lehner, even though we all believe he’s ready…Lots of other young goalies thought they were ready too, but turned out they were rushed in… Let Anderson get the brunt of the pressure… Let Lehner be the saviour…

    • Conor_smythe

      I’ve been critical of some of Macleans decisions, but I would never fire him.

  • Luc Wolfe

    Sign him to a reasonable amount… And pass to something asap as we need 2 more veterans in the line up.(maybe not Phillips age)

  • runningbear1974

    We’re not too far from being a great team… Murray got us Turris, Ryan, MacArthur…
    If he can get us another 2-3 quality guys… And, if we can develop 2-3 quality guys, then we would have a very good team… Not too far away… Just need to figure out which quality guys are part of the equation…

  • NickofTime

    Ottawa no longer needs Phillips, his inconsistent play & constant giveaways doesn’t help the youngsters one bit. Ottawa is still rebuilding & it’s time to move on from Phillips. You forgot to mention that Ceci Chirp, he is another defenceman who may be knocking on the door next season. He is having a very good year offensively in Bingo but still needs to be a little better defensively. He is a right shot & would fit in perfectly behind Karlsson where Corvo is playing now & no one thinks Corvo will be re-signed. Yes, the defence will still be young next yr but I expect Karlsson, Cowen, Wiercioch, Boroweicki & Gryba to all be better next yr & help Ceci out & I would put him with the vet Methot.

    At some point you have to cut ties with the past & if the Sens are not in a position to make the playoffs come the trade deadline, they should move Phillips, Michalek & Covo if they can & get as much as they can to move forward. They should also move Condra, SDC, Petersson, Hoffman & Conacher if they can, their time in Ottawa should also be done. Re-signing Phillips only hurts Wiercioch, Cowen & Boroweicki who are all left shots like Phillips & they need to play more to get better. We have seen Wiercioch have flashes of brilliants & Cowen & Boro at times too, they need to play & Ottawa needs the picks they can get for Phillips. C’est la vie in the NHL these days & we can retire his number once he retires along with Alfredsson, maybe.

    • LeafsSux

      Epic Fail…..

    • Richard Gough

      I have to say I agree with every thing you have noted it time to clear out all the old and bring in the new

  • runningbear1974

    Timonen, Markov, Orpik, Schultz all UFAs this summer… Should we take a shot at one of those guys?

    • Luc Wolfe

      Can’t see Markov leave mtl same with
      timonen… Orpik can hit… I heard Schultz is a disappointment.

      • runningbear1974

        wrong Schultz… oops…

    • Sensturion

      Timonen is at a retirement age. He won,t sign anywhere else. Markov will leave Montreal if he’s given big bucks, no doubt about it. He’s not the greatest defensive player though. Orpik is overrated. Which Schultz?

      • runningbear1974

        I thought Markov was the guy that made Subban look good…

        • Tooks

          Wrong…

          • runningbear1974

            well, that was what i thought… I’d have to re-watch those games to see what happened…

      • runningbear1974

        wrong Schultz…

      • SenaTHOR

        Orpik is a defensive STUD. If you are looking at points he’s maybe overrated.

  • Deadly

    Twentieth goal for Lazar tonight.

    • runningbear1974

      Feels like he’s a gem… No pressure…

  • runningbear1974

    I really like Hoffman, but i don’t think he’s quite ready… He might need a couple more years… Imagine he could come in at a very confident 26 yrs guy,,,

    • Sensturion

      I doubt Hoffman gets resigned next year unless he gets called up again and tears it up. He’s not doing too good. Poor training camp and useless in his first call up… writing might be on the wall.

      • runningbear1974

        maybe… He might need his body to grow… He got hurt bad last time… This time he was tentative… Makes sense… He’s really fast… He’s worth the price…

  • Chris

    i got 2 tickets section 109 for tonight’s game, im looking to get rid of them quick the original price per ticket is $106, but il sell each one for $70i if interested reply and il send you my email

  • FistsofNeil25

    Pageau!

    • FistsofNeil25

      Does he play tonight?!

  • runningbear1974

    I’d like another shot at trying to explain MacLean’s decisions…. Spezza is playing on the PK, and Phillips is on the PP… In my mind, MacLean has identified major weaknesses in the team, and is getting them to practice these aspects of their game… Either they learn or they don’t, but if they suck at it, then we as a team will suck too… Either they learn, or they don’t…

    • Tooks

      Old dogs dont learn new tricks.

      • runningbear1974

        we’ll find out… Then Murray can make a decision about them…

  • FistsofNeil25

    I hope we see

    Mac-Spezz-Zbad
    Milo-Turris-Ryan
    Greening-Pageau-Condra
    Conacher-Smith-Neil

    • Tooks

      I would really like to see that for a few games straight.

      • WolfInSheepsClothes

        Plus, waive Gryba and recall BoroCop

        • SenaTHOR

          Please do for his sake.

  • WolfInSheepsClothes

    Annnnnddd…. Methot isn’t at practice this morning…… Only 5D now..