Enough is Enough

SensChirp April 17, 2014 726
Enough is Enough

I’ve waited a couple days. Taken time to reflect and make sure I completely understood everything I heard on Tuesday. Listened to the interviews multiple times, going over the details of what was said and trying to piece it altogether. At the same time, I’ve combined this with the additional information I’ve gathered from sources and contacts over the last couple seasons. And I’ve come to a conclusion.

Eugene Melnyk is completely full of shit. And I’m sick of it.

I’ll start with a bit of a disclaimer. I have no idea what Eugene Melnyk’s current financial situation is like. I don’t know how his other businesses are doing and I don’t know if he’s made money off this team over the last ten years. He claims no. I think otherwise. But again, I have no idea if he has money.  So we’ll get that out of the way right off the bat. That’s not what this post is about.

No this is about the lies, the manipulation and the devastating reality that our organization will never win a Stanley Cup with Eugene Melnyk calling the shots.

I understand that he owns the team. That he is free to do with it what he pleases and that it’s not for me to decide how he should spend his money. But the way I see it, the Ottawa Senators also belong to this city and to the fans that have supported the team from Day 1, with their own hard earned money. Sure it’s not the millions required to run a hockey team but it matters. And right now, our Owner is running our team into the ground and lying right to our faces while he does it.

His primary talking point, over the last season and a bit, has become “spending wisely”. As though before this epiphany no thought went into the decisions. That he in his infinite wisdom has come up with a strategy that the rest of the idiot Owners completely missed. Rather than sign talented players for market value contracts, we’ll develop our own talent and at low, low prices! Genius. Super risky to keep sharing our secret strategy on the radio though.

Anyway, the idea here is that instead of spending money on existing talent and retaining franchise players, our money is now being directed towards player development. That even with the massive TV deals signed, we still need to focus our spending on player development. Sorry, Eugene. Bullshit. That’s easy to say, because as fans we have no way of knowing how much you or any other teams spends on “developing players” but I am pretty confident Ottawa isn’t outspending the top teams in this regard.

And on top of that, Eugene has the nerve to say that he “proved” he was willing to spend when the team added Ales Hemsky at the deadline. You remember, don’t you? When we gave away Cory Conacher, somehow loaned Joe Corvo to another AHL organization (I didn’t even know you could do this?!) and gave away an extra draft pick so that the Oilers would take on some salary and acquired that high price talent. Back up the Brinks truck, because Eugene is ready to spend!

I know that as the Owner of the team he needs to sell hope. I just wish he would admit that at this stage in his Ownership, his priority is making money. Whether it’s to recover some of the apparent losses from other seasons, or it’s a message to the city over the whole Casino thing, it’s pretty clear Eugene is done spending money on this hockey team. The guy who sold us on dreams of one day bringing the Stanley Cup to Ottawa, is dead and gone. This is business man Eugene. And he’ll do whatever it takes to turn a profit. If the team has success and makes the playoffs? That’s even better because it means more money.

It’s already been confirmed that the budget will be similar next season. Despite the deals with Canadian Tire and TSN, we’ll still be in the $56-57 million dollar range when it comes to payroll. Right near the cap floor and with the league’s bottom feeders in terms of player spending. Because just because you have money in your pocket, doesn’t mean you should spend it. He’s spent to the cap before and it doesn’t work. Eugene’s words, not mine.

I’ve seen it in the comment section and on Twitter. I’ve heard it in the rink and in bars. Fans are frustrated and they have every right to be. Internally, people are frustrated. In hockey ops. The players. The coaches. The sales people. The game day staff. Everybody is frustrated.

But ya know what? Despite all this, we still have a damn good hockey team. A strong core of young players that have been assembled over the years by smart hockey people not because Melnyk provided them with additional resources but because the hockey ops people we do have are damn good at their jobs. It’s terrifying to think where this team would be without Bryan Murray, Tim Murray before his departure, Pierre Dorion, Randy Lee and the scouting staff.

We’ve been able to acquire young stars like Kyle Turris and Bobby Ryan, and sell them on our city not because of the Owner, but because this organization is filled with good people and because this fan base is one that players are proud to play for. Somewhat miraculously, the future remains bright for the Ottawa Senators. But it won’t stay that way forever.

Anybody who has followed this site knows that I am the most positive fan out there. Often to a fault, I’ve heaped praise on this organization, always choosing to look on the more optimistic side of things. When they signed that giant TV deal I thought to myself, finally. Finally we are free from the soul sucking internal budget and can get back to chasing the Stanley Cup.

Yet on Tuesday, it was another gut punch from Eugene. Melnyk had the nerve to lie to us one more time. To try and trick the people that pay for tickets and really keep this organization afloat. He had the nerve to point the finger at every single person in this organization- management, coaches, players, training staff, fans and not once point the finger in his own direction.

I’m as optimistic as they come. I want to be hopeful. I want to believe that the team that I’ve supported since I was 8 years old could someday be the last team standing at the end of the season. But the harsh reality is that as long as this version of Eugene Melnyk is the Owner; it’s just not going to happen.

And that fucking sucks.

  • Zelle

    Before reading the article I just wanted to say that is one fantastic picture of the arena and all the fans. Wish it were like that every game night. Now onto the article!

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    I’ve pretty much just been shaking my head since the interviews….almost speechless. I keep hoping that somehow they are just pulling our legs, I just don’t understand how or why someone like Bobby Ryan would come out saying he wants to be here long term…don’t get me wrong I am ecstatic if it is true…but the more filth I hear from Melnyk and very obvious damage control from anyone else in the organization the more I wouldn’t blame any of our stars if they ran to the hills.

    Everyone says that they want to do something about it…but nobody has any ideas. Personally I stopped buying tickets now….as realistically the pocket book is the only thing he will notice(and I am sure my tiny amount of money spent in the grand scheme of things means absolutely nothing to Melnyk)

    And fucking sucks

    • Jayme Reid

      Some people are reading blogs and rumors and saying this must really be taking places most of it is being made up and has not truth to it not saying every rumor is 100% false but many of them about the team are and some fans are taking them as fact thats the big issue.

  • peetypuck

    What’s next from Melnyk?
    Asking the players to buy seasons tickets again?

    • Jayme Reid

      He never did.

      • TookieIs100PercentRight

        Pretty sure this has happened, if not under Eugene then under Bryden. Either the team gave the season tickets away (they still do) or the players were asked to do so. The team has done an awful lot of papering the rink until recently.
        TOOKS100% OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Jayme Reid

          The team did give out far less tickets this year as for the players were asked to buy season tickets that was not under Melynk the other thing people need to keep in mind is other citys have corp support that can give tickets away.

  • Hax

    Great post. I’m sure earlier drafts were much more bitter but glad you left a bit of it in (since it’s genuine).

    I do take exception that you think you’re more positive than I am though – I thought I patented the rose-colored glasses! LOL

    Even I’m with you on Melnyk though. If he really genuinely plans to spend in a year or two to make a run (the last hope of the optimists) then he’s insanely naive not to say so to appease fans. His message that you somehow don’t have to spend to win or that those teams that spend to the cap are “idiots” just doesn’t fly.

    Well done Chirp and thanks for continuing to keep this site at such a high level – I’m sure it’s not as fun for you as it has been in years past.

    • SensChirp

      Thanks. I hate writing a post like this. Not an opinion I want to have, let alone share with others.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        I don’t think anyone wants to have this opinion, but more and more people are coming to the conclusion….I am about middle of the road for optimism/pessimism, even denied that this was as big of a deal as it apparently is. If our internal cap increases a decent amount, without being stupid, I may hold out hope that they are saving space for some of our guys who are due to get raises.

        We have Karlsson for what I suspect will be a bargain for someone of his level within the next season or two….there is no excuse to not be surrounding him and Turris, Ryan etc with quality players….I am leaving Spezza off because I genuinely think that he has finally just reached the fuck it point

        • Hax

          That’s just it. A $57M payroll next season is totally reasonable and many Chipers have already given examples.

          But nobody has come out and said directly “We know we’ll have to spend more in a couple of years and we will.”

          Is that because they don’t want player agents seeing $$$ everywhere? Or is that because they actually don’t plan on spending.

          And the player exodus is equally concerning since you’d think they know more than we do about what chances we have.

      • Senatollah

        Post is bang on except one piece seems missing. Politics.

        Why is the casino a big deal, whats the story behind why its needed.

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          I actually support him in his pursuit of a fair competition for a casino….and I really hope that this isn’t just a game he is playing to try and further that goal.

          • SensChirp

            I sort of arrived at that thought while writing the article. That maybe reactions like the one I am having above are exactly what he’s hoping for.

          • Hax

            Sadly that seems too clever for Melnyk. It would take an incredibly smart man to convince us all he’s such a buffoon. Just to get the reaction he wants.

            I think he’s just actually a buffoon.

          • Doc

            That could very well be. With enough of the fan base becoming angry due to the lack of financing being put in the team, this only gives more leverage for Melnyk to pursue other ventures like the casino.

          • Jayme Reid

            If you ask most fans are you upset its a budget team they would say no now if you asked most would you support ticket prices going to so they could spend more most fans would take issue with that.

          • Patrick Weirdcock

            Uhhhh… wut?

          • Jakester

            Good point hold a knife to the city and province long enough to get what he wants.

          • Jayme Reid

            How is he holding a knife to the city?

  • my2sens

    What scares me is that I have been trying to find Eugene’s net worth. However, if you follow the crumb trail through his startup companies, Biovail, lawsuits, these guy seems to be a fraud! Perhaps his reputed 1 Billion net worth is simply tied up in useless stocks?

    • Sandy
    • mounties99

      You’d have to think that almost half of his “billion dollar net worth” are the Sens, CT Place, capital tickets and land surrounding the CT centre. The other half could be worthless stock options, bad investments, homes, race horses, etc. But don’t tell me that a club that is valued at nearly 400million dollars, that increased in value almost 2 fold since the lockout isn’t making money. If nothing else, he’s made nearly 300million in equity since he bought the team. There’s a reason he wants to keep the team and that’s because it’s making him money, one way or another.

      • Brutus5247

        Its a ego thing that he owns the team. He really hasn’t had many successes as a hockey franchise but rather, he is an OWNER of a hockey franchise, He could sell the team, his other assets, pay capital gains and be sitting on a quarter billion in the bank. Lot less stress but he would be out of the limelight and that his “stik”.

        • mounties99

          If the team were bleeding money, he’d be looking for investors or coming up with some scheme like Rod Bryden tried to do. The franchise is viable, the team is valuable, and if you take all of the “moving parts” of owning a franchise and the building into account, the team makes money. I would be willing to bet just about anything on that.

          But yes, ego definitely plays a part in all of this as well. He’s a front and centre kind of guy. One who likes to sit in on exit meetings.

          With all that said, if the difference between me making 3million was trading Jason Spezza, I’d probably do it too.

          • Zelle

            If you trade Jason Spezza and don’t bring an equal or better talent that people will pay to see you’ll probably lose money in the long run though.

          • mounties99

            Obviously, that was an example, but I get the sense that Melnyk is more of a short term gain, long term pain kind of guy. I think he’s someone that would like to see the NHL expand to 32 teams so he could get 1/30th of that expansion money even though he’d now get 1/32th of the national tv contract revenue and would lose more in the long run.

            Also, if Jason Spezza is traded, you can be sure that Ottawa will not get equal or better talent. The team that trades away the star player almost always loses that trade. Maybe the hockey gods will bless us with Connor McDavid some how, some way.

  • John Q. Spartan

    Eugene Melnyk is so evil, that he stole Keyser Soze’s lunch money when they were kids.

  • boom

    “It’s very, very easy to increase payroll,” said Melnyk. “Any idiot can do it. Lots of idiots do.”

    “We’d go in and beat up on the best teams and then come back and miss what I call the two foot putts. Losing to the Islanders. What’s that all about?,” said Melnyk.
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    Have to believe we’re not the only ones who think Melnyk’s an idiot, with quotes like that flying out of his mouth.

    • Doc

      Yes, any “idiots” can spend to the cap.

      Only “geniuses” spend money on forensic investigations…

      • Daybreak Maidenhead

        LMAO

  • my2sens

    Mr. Melnyk do you want to make the playoffs?

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    wowzers. What an article and i kind of wish I didnt read it because now I am scared. Scared that everything you are stating is true and that a stanley cup wont be coming to this beautiful city anytime soon. On the other hand, lets hope Eugene wakes up and realizes something. We need to SPEND SOME GO DDAMN MONEY IN ORDER TO SUCCEED IN THIS LEAGUE.

    • Jayme Reid

      You don’t need to spend to the cap.

  • BeJamin

    Excellent work. I’m glad someone who has a good connection to the fan base like yourself is willing to speak out. Time to openly protest this owner and run him out of town.

  • Zelle

    Depressing article… I wish there was some way to make the staff’s job better, despite having a disrespectful owner. To let them know that the fans appreciate all of their hard work.

    I so want the Senators to win the Stanley Cup. I haven’t been following them since I was 8 years old but I consider myself a pretty good and committed fan and don’t want to be jerked around.

  • Doc

    Good job, Chirp. Glad to see this side of you.

    Some fans need to wake up and see what really is going on.

    I’ve said it before a few weeks ago, but some things will surface in the coming months and hopefully the fans see how things really are. I agree that we have a good young core on the team, but imagine the possibilities if your owner wasn’t such a penny pincher.

    With somewhere around 30 some millions dollars just in TV rights revenue coming in next season, you would think that some of it would be spent on icing the best lineup in a ‘wise’ manner, but unfortunately this will not be the case.

    • peetypuck

      TV revenues from Roger’s and NBC total over $600 million a year next year. The Sens will get a minimum of $20 million (1/30th). Then there is appx $30 million per year from TSN. That’s $50 million plus.

      • Doc

        Yeah didn’t look up the numbers, thanks for the clarification.

        Makes the situation look even worse… So basically the whole payroll for the roster will be paid by the TV deals. Pathetic.

        • peetypuck

          Yep, and he has the nerve to tell us he’s not making any money. Then there’s ticket sales, food/beverages, parking and merchandise. And concerts.

        • Jayme Reid

          Thats more or less how it works in the Nfl most of the payroll is paid by tv deals.

    • Sandy

      Maybe his new girlfriend.. is expensive…

    • Jayme Reid

      People are reading between the lines to much as for Melynk is a penny pincher thats not really true.

      • SENSsmile

        Because….?

  • aegiszx

    Sens fans became too accustomed to spending… We’re into year what, 2 or 3 of a budget? Nashville, Buffalo, Phoenix, Florida… many teams have gone through a much longer drought than we have… my only hope is that Eugene wakes up before its too late…

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Whoa is that actually still optimism?!?!

  • John Q. Spartan

    The currently relationship between Senators fans and ownership reminds me of the Ottawa Rough Riders before they folded. Probably just a coincidence.

    • Jayme Reid

      No its not the same at all there are some fans reading rumors being made up and take them as fact bottom line is Melynk is a good owner.

  • EHMatt

    Totally agree with you. Before his Team 1200 interview I tweeted at him to stop meddling with the team. Funny how he came out on the radio to tell us what the definition of meddling was and say that he wasn’t doing it. I call bullshit!
    Yes any “idiot” can spend to the cap. It’s an idiot move to spend $10 million for 2 years on Alex Kovalev. Wasn’t it rumoured to be his call? We’re certainly not asking him to do that again. How about increasing the payroll to keep Ales Hemsky around for Spezza? Or if you want a “hard” forward, why not attempt to make a trade for Ryan O’Reilly. Or even try to sign Ottawa-born vet d-man Dan Boyle this summer? Is that not spending wisely? Both of those fill a need, but they require Eugene to open up the pocket book.
    I’m starting to get the same feeling as you Chirp. Something has to be done to show Eugene that he won’t make money if he doesn’t actually spend wisely by actually spending. Any ideas?

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      WOuld love Orilly…no to Boyle though.

  • http://www.31digital.ca Spencer Callaghan

    Melnyk is running this team into the ground. This idea that he “saved” the team and is therefore beyond questioning is asinine.

    Yes he saved it in 2003, but today, if it went on the market, the Sens would attract multiple suitors to keep the team in Ottawa. I have no doubt about that. The revenues that this team is able to bring in, despite horrible marketing, bad management and a poor location, easily justify Ottawa as an NHL market.

    So the fear mongering aside, he needs to be held accountable for how he is running the team. There is simply no reasonable explanation for how a team in Canada, with a massive TV money he just received, isn’t making money.

    So we have a few possibilities. 1. He is flat out lying to try to get more money from the city. 2. The team really is losing money due to extremely poor management or 3. a combination of the two.

    I’m going with #3.

    • Doc

      Saved? He bought a team with 0 debts. Hardly saved anything.

      • peetypuck

        He probably borrowed all the money to buy the team while the hockey revenues pay it off. He likely never used any of his own money.

        • Sandy

          He says the reason he financed to buy the team was due to the fact he couldn’t sell is Biovail shares when needed due to the ‘blackout’ period.. which is when ‘insiders’ of a company cannot sell that stock.

          • peetypuck

            Bank payments and moving profits to separate companies such as Capital tickets ensures him that the Senators don’t make money. The food/beverage and parking may be separate businesses too. Those profits go straight into his pockets.

          • Rod77

            He doesn’t get the food /beverage money, that is a contract awarded to Aramark. What he might get is the value of the contract, which includes a piece of sales, and maybe the lease for the concession stands. But he does not get the full money from beer sales.

      • Rod77

        The team was bankrupt, that’s how he got for 0 debt. Say what you will about Melnyk, and I think he is a little nuts, he made a concrete statement saying he would not move the team. So in essence he did save the team.

    • Brutus5247

      I’m with you on #4.

    • peetypuck

      #4 it is.

    • Jayme Reid

      Or fans are reading to many rumors.

    • Jayme Reid

      He is not running the team into the ground i am not sure where people are getting that idea from.

      • SENSsmile

        You keep making the same comment over and over, with zero substantiating evidence to support your argument. Are you related to Uncle Gene?

    • SensDominate

      The Sens make money, loads of it. Plain and simple. BUT, Melnyk has leveraged the hell out of the team and due to the massive debt servicing he has turned an increasing profit (thanks to the TV deals and fewer ticket freebees) into a loss. The team is bleeding red ink…sadly it has NOTHING to do with hockey at all.

  • esk

    Meh I still don’t think its as drastic as everyone is making it seem. Melynk wasnt afraid to spend all those years when we were on top of the league. Most sports franchises are lucky to break-even. So maybe your right he is trying to get his money back and waiting for the right moment to add free agent when our players are on top of their shit….you guys look at the kings, hawks and pens as examples…but im pretty sure they didnt start adding free agents until they felt they can make a serious run for the cup until then they let their players develop. We are close but not there yet even if we managed to sign alfie and bobby ryan….our defence? goaltending? we cant just sign every free agent to fill in the gaps and hope for the best.

    • BeJamin

      “Most sports franchises are lucky to break even” do you even read financial data? You’re just pulling this brainwashed claim, directly out of your ass. Give me one shred of evidence that professional teams are actually losing money. A lot of them do quite well. Just because SOME owners are MEGA RICH and literally don’t give a shit about losing money on the team (a play thing rather than a business) does not mean that there aren’t many owners making money. The Florida Panthers have been making 10 million a year in profit. Look it up.

      • Sandy

        So how can the Florida Panthers make 10M in profit a season.. with an empty building.. and cheap tickets.. Believe me.. .tickets are cheap.. We paid $60 to sit about 10 rows from the ice..
        The Sens have close to full buildings and more expensive tickets.
        Now I get the tax breaks in the US vs Canadian teams…
        The only thing I can think of re: Florida’s profits is that it’s a combination of the arena (which apparently is one of the busiest in the NHL) and the team itself.. Melnyk most likely separates team from building, etc.. That’s why he is crying poor.

        • Brutus5247

          For sure!
          Big lease payment of CTC.
          Ticket Purchase commission % keep high.
          Probably has a food/distribution agrement where he gets a percentage before it becomes Sens property.
          “Team is poor! We’re not even breaking even.”
          This guy knows the ropes and I’m sure he’s sheltering a lot.

          • Jayme Reid

            The team is not poor.

          • SimpleMindTriccks

            Why do you think the food prices are so high? They pay to be in the building as well as a percentage off of sales. Capital tickets is its own company yet its still owned by Euge. Don’t forget parking revenue along with the other tenants of CTC (YMCA, Sens Store, Sports medicine).

        • Jayme Reid

          I don’t think Melnyk is crying poor as for Florida i would suggest people really look at whats going on it would not shock me if they move if they don’t get there way.

  • spezzerman

    I share your frustration but I’m not ready to say this team has been run into the ground…yet.

  • esk

    NO ONE BUYS A SPORTS TEAM TO MAKE MONEY

    • Brutus5247

      Noboby buys a business to lose money either.

    • BeJamin

      This is a misnomer that’s been pushed by owners for generations. Of course they buy the teams to make money. Ever heard of the NFL? Sports is a business like anything else. And there is nothing wrong with that. The issue fans have with Melnyk is that he’s now putting his own pockets ahead of the team. He’d rather pocket the extra millions than ice a truly competitive team.

      • esk

        lol yes your right but the number 1 reason billionaires buy sport teams isnt to make money. I can understand Melnyk if he wants to pocket some millions to recoup his losses….i believe at the end of the day, he will spend money when he believes it will be worth it. Only then will he PROFIT the most…he is just being patient. Just frustrating to see people crying but not trying to understand his point of view. Like i said before, he had no problem spending money in the past when we used to be on top of the league every single year…he clearly has a plan, he is trying to execute. He didnt become a billionaire making stupid decisions

        • Jakester

          Many sports franchises make piles of money!

          • Jayme Reid

            Very few do make piles of money.

      • peetypuck

        As CEO of Biovail didn’t he pay himself a humungous salary? I think that was one of the problems the other shareholders had with him.

      • PraiseAlfie11

        Nobody buys a income property to make money either. Same shit, different business.

  • oh boy.

    hate to say it but this team is starting to look really similar to the roughriders/renegades eras with poor ownership and we all know what happened there…

    • Daybreak Maidenhead

      sad – but true

    • Jayme Reid

      But its not poor ownership people are taking rumors being made up as fact and some are reading far to much between the lines the ownership is nothing like the Cfl days people need to look at real fact and not rumors being made up.

      • SensDominate

        How about you elaborate on these hypothesises you have…or are you just playing the stooge card with nothing of substance to contribute to the discussion. Maybe you could bring some of your own facts to the table rather than just write off everything else as rumours. Even if you have no facts…how about some specific examples to support your lonely opinions (which aren’t really opinions at all, you are not only being a stooge, but my 5 year-old could bring more intelligent evidence to support her opinions).

        • Jayme Reid

          I just have a real hard time when people will read a rumor and say it must be true now with that said its not limited to hockey now with that said this blog is the most common sense one for Sens fans many other are nothing but gossip rags.

          • SENSsmile

            I have a hard time trying to follow whatever it is you’re trying to say. I don’t mean to be rude… but you need to learn how to use punctuation, dude.

        • Rod77

          The Rough Riders were owned by CHUM Radio in Ottawa (CFRA), they were fine until they were sold. The Renegades ownership was going to be a failure from the beginning with five people owning a share with no share larger than 30%. When one owner wanted out, that’s where the problems began. Add to that the fact that the Renegades needed the Grey Cup to cover their years of losses. The Senators has lost money for years, even before Melnyk took over (the 9-10 million a year number has been around for years). The entire company as a single entity (Capital Tickets the CTC and the Senators) at least breaks even. Does Melnyk want to blow the budget, no. Does he want to be responsible with his money, I guess you can call it that.

  • A-Train

    I appreciate your passion but I can’t help but feel you are over-reacting to recent developments.

    • Doc

      Disagree. A lot of people/bloggers/journalists have hinted in the last few months at what is really going on, but most fans still disregard it for whatever reason.

      With a little digging you can easily find some key information.

      • FistsofNeil25

        Yeah the people that aren’t worried about our team are either have their heads in the sand or are simply in denial.

        • Brutus5247

          Or are happy for the entertainment value.

        • Jayme Reid

          I trust legit reports etc and not bloggers who in manhy cases make things up to get views.

      • Jayme Reid

        No they have been making things up for the most part with no much to back them up so to say there point out whats going on.

  • FistsofNeil25

    :-(

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    Everyone has their own opinions but GO SENS GO haha

  • BeJamin

    I think the writing has been on the wall since the Alfie fiasco. He always said there was more to the story that would come out one day, and now it’s coming out. The Conacher on waivers & extra pick for Hemsky are just more evidence of what we already know. The organization is handcuffed. We aren’t trying to win. We’re trying to make money and be competitive on the cheap. I think it’s a virtual certainty at this point that Murray was only given permission to complete the Ryan trade because we lost 2k season ticket holders the day we lost Alfie.

    • Jayme Reid

      Thats how most teams run.

  • FistsofNeil25

    You know shit has gone down hill when even Chirp is a broken fan. Damn you Melnyk!

    • Jayme Reid

      Things are not that bad.

  • karlssens

    Fantastic article chirp. I really hope this starts something within the hockey world. Maybe not an uprising, but an awareness of sorts.

    Anyone with twitter, please retweet chirps tweet and hashtag nhl, Ottawa, Melynk whatever it takes! Word has to get out there.

  • Brewskie19

    I agree. When Eugene was spending to the cap, we went to the finals. Now the cap goes up, and we refuse to spend. Imagine had be spent on 2 more players at 5 million per, we would of been easily in the playoffs, and playoff revenue would offset much of that money spent. I thank him for saving our team, but I have seen the past owners go down this road before, right before they became broke. If Eugene won’t spend in the right situation (Alfie), then he should sell the team to someone who will. The fan base and everything around Ottawa is so much stronger than in the 90′s. If Phoenix is safe under the NHL, Ottawa could and will never lose it’s team. The worst thing is, that his cheap ways will keep players from coming, and that will hurt us the most in the long run.

    • Hax

      Where did that Phoenix team come from again?

    • Rod77

      The Senators spent about 40 million in 2006-2007, when the cap was 44 million. That is a lot different than spending 60 million where the cap is 64 million. Especially when you consider missed revenue from the last lockout, and the crappy TV deals the NHL signed after the first lockout. And remember in 2007 he wanted to spend to get Roberts here, which got Muckler clipped. In terms of selling, who would he sell to. There is no one local who would buy the team, and there are very few options for ownership that won’t consider moving the team if revenue drops.

  • Sandy

    Great article Chirp.. I too am frustrated with what’s going on with him…
    But other than withholding ticket money and not buying merchandise.. what can the fans do? Petition to Bettman about how unhealthy this Owner is for the NHL. How he is not investing ticket revenue and other team revenues back into the team.. but into his pocket or to put into his outside failing businesses.
    I love hockey and my Sens… it’s very hard for me not to go to games..
    I get that teams need to develop their young players as that is what most of the top teams have done. But at some point, when those young players are nearing their prime… you spend to win…
    Melnyk, when he first bought the team — his mandate was to win the Cup.. Now it’s all about saving money.
    I too supported this man going for a Casino. His proposal blew Jim Watson’s out of the water.. Mainly in ways of generating employment in building the project then staffing it. As well as the large amount of tax dollars that would come to the City.
    This organization puts about 100M a year or more into Ottawa’s economy.. Let him get his Casino… then he will spend…

  • Moudy Mahfouz

    You guys think if I send out a tweet everyday to melnyk stating “Spend some money, us fans deserve it” untill he spends some money would work?

    • karlssens

      Couldn’t hurt

      • Moudy Mahfouz

        Next thing you know I get banned from attending sens game lmao

        • Zelle

          No way, if he’s actually broke he needs your money.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      no

    • FistsofNeil25

      We should send out a tweet every day saying “Fuck you Melnyk you stupid Fuck. #FuckYouMelnyk”

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        hahahahaaha

      • WaitingSince92

        …but seriously, we need a trending hashtag for the fans to show Melnyk just what we think of him.

        • FistsofNeil25

          whats wrong with #FuckYouMelnyk?

          • Zelle

            I think the hash tag actually is trending lol

        • Jayme Reid

          The issue is the fans thata re upset at Melynk are doing so based on false info.

      • Jayme Reid

        I would really suggest people stop reading so many blog who inf act have tried to make things worse then theya re.

    • Brutus5247

      He could say FU and only bring up AHL’ers and say it’s development

    • Zelle

      Maybe if many of us did it? “Pay your staff what they deserve or they will leave.”

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      I am seriously considering it

    • 010101011111101010100101010101

      start an online petition asking him to sell the team ?

    • Brutus5247

      Or he’d just think that you are 1 of the 100 FANATICS and you should FO.

  • WaitingSince92

    Can we get a petition going to drop Melnyk? Not that that’s possible… just to send a message.

    The icing on the cake is that the rebuild plan is done. Three years later and we’re supposed to become a contender by imposing a strict internal budget. It costs us Alfie, and now probably Spezza, not to mention any possibility to going after the best UFAs.

    • karlssens

      I am down to do whatever it takes.

    • Hax

      Is the team even for sale? I mean, if he could sell now would he? I’m not even getting the impression he’d sell the team so not sure how much hope we can hold out for a new owner.

      • Sandy

        I assume this team.. or it’s building, concessions, etc.. is his main cash flow.. That’s why he says he won’t sell..

    • Jayme Reid

      Yes they dod say they want to bring in some players.

  • WaitingSince92

    There are only three things I want from an owner:
    1) Pick a dynamite GM
    2) Never interfere with the GM’s side
    3 Provide the necessary finances for contention

    Melnyk gets a 1 1/2 out of 3, tops.

  • esk

    chirp you realize you sway a lot fans opinions now eh the #fuckmelnyk movement looks pretty strong….smh lol I will take the wait and see approach before jumping on the bandwagon

  • sben

    I am currently making an online petition against eugene, what do you guys think the title should be, and what should the content describing the petition be?

    • PraiseAlfie11

      How about the title be: “this is a useless petition” and the content be “could someone with an extra quarter billion lying around buy an nhl team and keep it in a small market please?”

      • peetypuck

        It can’t be in that small of a market. Forbes sets the selling price at $380 million for the Sens. If Melnyk wasn’t making money he would have cashed in already.

        • PraiseAlfie11

          Ottawa is a very small market my man…is there a smaller one outside of edmonton? Now, remove civil servants from being able to accept free tickets from suppliers and it gets that much smaller.

    • Zelle

      “Budgets don’t win championships.”

    • 010101011111101010100101010101

      “it’s time for you to sell the team”

      ask Hax or SC to write the preamble

    • Jayme Reid

      Please don’t as most fans are upset and false info thats been posted.

  • PraiseAlfie11

    Fantastic writing, Chirp.

    I still want to see the actions though. If, come July 1st there is a firesale, I will say you are right. If their payroll goes down, and key pieces leave, I will again say you were right.

    I’m still of the belief this was a “why blow cash on stars when the supporting cast isn’t there yet” year.

    • Sandy

      It would have been a ‘year’ IF they would have paid Alfie… traded for Ryan and signed McArthur.
      Michalek-Spezza-Alfie
      Ryan-Turris-McArthur
      Now that’s a real good top 6. Would have added about 5.5 or 6M to the payroll for Alfie… and he wouldn’t even do that..
      This team would have made the playoffs with that top 6. 3 more wins was all it would have taken..

  • Floridasensfan

    Wanted to thumbs up your whole article, Melnyk really spelled out exactly what you are saying in his interview, The way you can tell if he is lying if his lips are moving. (Talking)
    Clearly all he cares about is making money right now on the team. Nothing else

  • Sandy

    I know a lot of you won’t support this as you don’t like Spezza… But if he is traded a year after the team lost Alfie, maybe it is time for an online petition to the Owner to let him know that fans are upset that the budget has cost this team two key players. How do you expect to compete in the East when the other teams spend… a few of them stupid.. ie Rangers, Leafs, Flyers.. but most responsibly — when he operates the team on a dime.

    • Jakester

      Sandy’ I respect your opinion and you know mine. I truly believe this team will be more competitive without Spezz. He isn’t the breaking point for me. The day I see bad decisions in regards to young players or trades that are made in regards only to money than I will be happy to sign a petition. Still in the wait and see mode! Can’t believe with 480 million in tv money from Tsn over 12-15 yrs not to mention the Money from Sportsnet that we won’t spend money when required. hell that’s 3-4x the money he spent on the team to start with. So something doesn’t jive let’s be patient!

  • Stephen Renaud

    Amazing read. I am a hardcore Sens fan who now lives in Montreal and I get the “blast’s” from Habs fans about the Sens. Yeah OK we beat them last year in the playoff’s and yet just to get blistered by the Pens in 5. I have done some homework on “cup” winning teams in the past 5 years and the avg. cap these teams spent to obtain what they got. Yeah some teams are full blown cap teams and don’t seem to win more but if we had the liberty of spending to the cap in the past 5 years and with the the Sens hockey ops we had I can’t even imagine how good and how far we would have went. “Enough is Enough” quite sums up how I feel aswell. No I aint gonna give up on the team, never will either but DAMN can we get a Goddam break once in awhile. The Alfie story, Corvo, Connacher and the Hemsky “save a buck” situation really, really ticks me off. All that “forensic crap” about Karlsson really shredded my stomach. To think that Melnyk prob had in mind that we would think he is a “team” player is just bull****! In the long run Melnyk will be able to run “the best thing to happen to the Sens ever in Karlsson” out of town not including the reputation we that are a “Cheap team”. Pitiful, tasteless, disgraceful and full blown MANIPULATION is what this owner is selling us. Thanks Melnyk for making me upset about this organization instead of beign and thinking positive in the long hall.

  • mounties99

    Can I just say that tweeting and pestering Eugene on twitter will do nothing to help this team. Articles such as the one above are the way to go. Clear and concise opinions. there’s no place for name calling or offensive hash tags.

    • FistsofNeil25

      I was never serious about a #fuckyouMelnyk hash-tag lol don’t think anyone else is either. We’re all just angry and frustrated

      • mounties99

        You’d be surprised at how many people would do something like that and probably already have. :)

      • Moudy Mahfouz

        I second this comment. I just really would love too see a deep run in the playoffs. Watching the habs game last night got me a little depressed

      • karlssens

        Meh I wasn’t joking.. Haha

    • Sandy

      But then.. how do you get this article out to the public.
      Chirp.. have you considered becoming a sports journalist?

  • RJulia

    Your article leaves me thinking about the importance is winning a Stanley Cup. To be honest, having the Senators hoist the cup is firmly a secondary concern. It would be fantastic, don’t get me wrong. But I would spend money on entertaining hockey even without a chance for a championship. I expect that the product will suffer somewhat as some players, faced with a fading window of opportunity, self-select into other organizations (e.g., Alfredsson). However, players will always outnumber the roster spots available across the NHL. And I believe the opportunity to prove one’s self, if only to cash in at another organization, will remain. You’re certainly not wrong, but I don’t think I am either. I’ll go to games when the team is entertaining; I’ll stay away when it is not. Seems fair.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Are you a casual or a diehard fan? The way I see it, casual fans are happy just to be entertained. Diehard fans dream of winning championships.

      • RJulia

        I don’t see myself as a casual fan, but yes, I do think that entertainment is primary and championships are secondary.

        • FistsofNeil25

          Wouldn’t it be nice if both entertainment and championships were the goal?

        • SENSsmile

          I’m sorry but I don’t follow that logic. If it’s pure entertainment you’re looking for, then I would suggest you go to a SHOW (i.e. a performance), not a competition sport where the main goal is to win. When your team wins, no matter how ugly (see New Jersey Devils), fans go home with a big smile on their face. That’s all that matters in the end. If they win AND they gave an entertaining performance, that’s simply icing on the cake.

          • RJulia

            Winning (whether it’s an individual game or a championship) would increase the enjoyment I get out of watching the Sens, to be sure. Losing individual games tends to negatively affect the experience (but not always). But not winning the Cup doesn’t really affect me one way or the other (unless, for example, the Sens are playing in the final). It would be nice, but I do not need a Cup to remain a happy fan.

            I get how entertainment is just the icing for some, but I think I’d walk away if I got to that point. I believe that winning becomes primary when fandom becomes significant to the individual’s identity, partly defining who they are. I’ve creeped up to that kind of emotional investment, and it’s not for me. Sure, winning is great, but losing is emotionally exhausting. I’m not willing to allow something I have no control over affect me to that degree. That said, it’s definitely not all or nothing. I identify with the Sens. They are my team. But I try to keep it in check. So for me, hockey is entertainment first.

    • Hax

      I see both sides. I absolutely need to be able to believe a cup could be in the future but I certainly wouldn’t want to bottom out for 10 years for a shot (aka the Oilers model). I think it’s fine to lay low a bit until the time is right to make a run, and that hockey can still be entertaining, but to simply put out an “NHL team” every year with no hope of even making a cup run – no thanks.

      • Sandy

        In the new conferences.. the way he wants the Sens run they won’t make it to the playoffs.. let alone the Cup run..

        • Hax

          I agree but it’s not a slam dunk.

          Sometimes Melnyk sounds like a guy who barely understands hockey and Murray’s plan and can’t explain it. Like I almost want to see them both interviewed at the same time so that Bryan can say “What Eugene means is that we can’t afford to spend unless we think our chances of going deep in the playoffs is high. Other teams can spend just to get to the playoffs, we can only really spend when the expectation is to go far.”

          Though at the same time I know that’s a bit optimistic and maybe even naive.

    • Zelle

      Winning a Cup means that you are a team that is successful and proved it can go all the way. These are the teams top talent wants to go to. And fans want to see top talent, I assume.

  • Catherine

    This article has caused me to sign up to your website in order to post my very first on-line comment on the Senators. I am so happy that you have finally said what needs to be said that I had to indicate my support by creating an account to write this message of support. For so long, Eugene has been able to announce that he is losing money and must restrict spending and seek additional revenue sources. Why has no one ever asked him, not about his cash flow in running the Senators, but about his capital appreciation and potential net gain? He got the Senators at a bargain basement price of $92 million in 2003. A decade later, the 2012 version of the Senators was worth $220 million, with operating income of $112 million. Even if Melnyk was losing $10 million a year, his potential capital gain far exceeds any other investment he could have made in the interim (especially as most of the money for the down payment on the team was no doubt highly leveraged). And his ownership of the team certainly exceeds his return on all the failed biotech companies he sunk money into.

    If he needs money, he should try to sell the team, in part or in whole. If he does not need money, he should stop talking about spending restrictions. His word is meaningless.

    For example, his most recent news conference indicated, for the first time, that if Alfredsson had stayed “We couldn’t have afforded Bobby Ryan…” This admission is in direct contradiction to what was stated previously: that Alfredsson was told that the Senators were trying to get Ryan to make the team better, so that Daniel would stay. Turns out that it was an either-or situation. We were intentionally misled, if not lied to. So the lack of an offer to extend Alfredsson’s contract a year earlier was part of a deliberate ploy to low ball a longstanding captain and community stalwart. The offer of a blank cheque at the last minute was nothing but a ploy.

    Why should we believe anything else the owner says? We have all heard about the abusive behaviour toward staff, the nasty emails, and the stress that the Senators organization has been under (did the NHL, indeed, have to step in last year again?) At some point, the owner must understand that if he cannot financially support the team to the standards expected of teams in the NHL, he should seek help or sell it. If there is no market for the sale of the Senators, then the Forbes evaluation is wrong. And ESPN is out to lunch. And Canadian Tire got taken. And TSN should reassess its TV deal.
    I find it very sad that for many years, Eugene Melnyk was viewed as a savior in Ottawa and had all the good will in the world when he “rode” into town, but he squandered it with hubris. What comes out of this sorry state of affairs is a stronger belief in the integrity of the people around the owner who have tried to cover up the ugliness in the room and work unceasingly to improve and support a team under such a dire situation. And even cast a fond look at other owners of the past who had the integrity to keep Ottawa’s hockey dream alive at great personal cost, and sold the team to ensure its survival. If only Melnyk had craved respect and valued honesty and decency rather than shameless promotion and financial blackmail, he would not be considered as he is: a very different kind of idiot.

    • Zelle

      Good first post!

    • Sandy

      Another female…. thanks I need a lot of help at times on here.

      • Zelle

        I’m sure Catherine is a strong boy’s name in some country… ;)

    • PraiseAlfie11

      Please post here more often. Great comment!

    • FistsofNeil25

      Wow. Heck of a first post.

    • 010101011111101010100101010101

      BOOYAH !

      Are there Pulitzer Prizes for blog posts ?

    • CUP 2014-15

      Welcome, always nice to have intelligent fans on board.

    • Sandy

      Catherine that was a great comment..
      I’m sure he’s trying to fleece the taxman by splitting the team from the building.. with the loss on the team, offsetting the gain on the building etc..

      • Jayme Reid

        Not sure what the tax payer has to do with this.

    • Rimshot Rondelet

      WOW

      Catherine the Great

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Award for best first post ever right here..

      I also don’t believe for a second that season tickets are where they want them to be… Impossible

    • LeafsSux

      You took the words right out of my mouth.. ;) You hit the nail on the head!!

    • sben

      make it a chirped!

    • karlssens

      This pose must be archived and saved..

    • Senator-Stanley

      You had me at “This article”

  • CUP 2014-15

    Great read SC, Thanks for the passion you put in it as I can relate. I am not sure if he will spend in 2015-16 after he collects his huge bounty for broadcast rights. I think if he wasn’t a complete maroon and always comes across like a drunkin sailor maybe, just maybe we would have a little more faith in the future, Spezza being moved has been a topic based on his performance not his salary and I for one wish he would stay a Sen but should they trade him, I will not relate that to being a financial move and more of a hockey move. Scary to think of young stars being sent out of town due to earning a bigger pay cheque but that has not happened and until it does, I am not assuming anything. It’s going to be a wild summer in the capital and with any luck we will see a change in regards to the vets this team wants to bring in. With Spezz gone and Milo along with Hemsky, the Sens will need to add about 15m just to reach the floor. Here’s hoping that the frustration is premature and the Sens hit the ice next year with three new multi million dollar men brought in. Again, thanks Chirp as its so refreshing to read a blog that has been written by a true fan. Take a deep one man, it helps.LOL.

    • Sandy

      The problem is.. what decent UFAs will come to Ottawa…

      • CUP 2014-15

        I think Clarke Mc Arthur is a pretty good one, I’ll take three more just like him thank-you

        • Zelle

          Well since Toronto seems to be where careers go to die, there are probably more under performing players on that team we could fleece.

          • CUP 2014-15

            If I was working under BM, I would insist on two things, 1 always take a closer look at players who are being let go by the blue team and 2, never, never get in a bidding war with them on a UFA, if their scouts like him then I don’t.

      • Rimshot Rondelet

        please help us Billy Beane – you’re our only hope

        • sben

          I feel like only Brad Pitt could help us at this point.

          • Richard Gough

            Lol

  • sben

    Here is an online petition against melnyk. See if we can get something going:

    https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/enough-is-enough-melnyk-it-is-time-for-you-to/thank-you

  • Patrick Weirdcock

    Way to bring the heat Chirp! Love the passion of this post

    Who else wants to start a kickstarter campaign to raise a couple hundred mill so Senschirp can buy the team?

  • Richard Gough

    That is the best blog I have read all season chirp well done

    And that is why Alfy jumped ship

    • FAB

      ‘Eugene Melnyk treated Daniel Alfredsson like a McDonald’s temporary
      foreign worker’

      • Richard Gough

        He sure did !! Welcome too McDics can I take your order

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Who?

  • WaitingSince92

    Just wondering because I thought I saw a post from one the other day… are there any fans here that actually like our owner?

    Didn’t think so, but I thought I’d check.

    (Melnyk changing his username to respond)

  • matsoukas45

    I wish the sports media in this city would look at things like senschrip but they eat everything the sens feed them.Its quite obvious melynk is lying, he is taking the money the sens are making and pocketing it himself. The local media should investagate his finacies. I belive if they do they will find out he is broke and pocketing the money he makes from the team for his personal use.

    • Zelle

      We could always employ some good ol’ internet sleuthing…

    • Sandy

      Get the Toronto media to take it. They like causing trouble for Ottawa.

  • SensChirp

    Thanks for all the kind words about the post. Really hated writing it but just had some things I needed to vent about. Certainly hope that I’m proven wrong on all of this during this coming off season and in the years to come.

    • karlssens

      Don’t lie, you loooooved writing it. It’s all the truth.

    • senate19

      I really believe you’ve got the potential to start a grassroots movement here. Get this article published in the paper, then we’ll see what happens.

  • Sandy

    On some more positive items.. Good games tonight…

    Rangers-Philly
    Chicago-StL
    Minny-Avs.. (Heatley is a healthy scratch… la la la)
    LA-SJ — going to be a gem of a series

    • Zelle

      Super excited for Rangers-Philly and Chi-STL. Come oooon Blues! Wish they would have kept Halak though.

  • esk

    Isnt it in the best interest of Melnyk for the sens to be competitive? sooo what is the whole point of all of this? he would be screwing himself over X1000. Spend money…better players…playoffs…stanley cup…more fans…more fuckin money for eugene. The only way this makes some sense is if he is planning to sell the team..

    • peetypuck

      I’d like to see Canadian Tire buy the team.
      Can you imagine all the Sens players using Mastercraft hockey sticks?

  • Jayme Reid

    I have seen comments its like the Rens/Roughriders days no its not people are reading to many blogs taking it as fact there has been saying they have been reporting whats really going on no they have no all they have been doing is trying to stir the pot not saying all of them but many of them are.

    • SensDominate

      hahaha…now I understand, you’re a stooge, but your inability to articulate evidence to support your opinion coupled with your terrible grammar, exposes yourself as Bart Melnyk, 10 year old grandson of Eugene!

  • Andrews theory

    BRAVO Chirp!

    You nailed it.

    I’ve spent tens of thousands on this team, I believe I have a right to bitch about an owner that isn’t decent enough to be honest with us or care whether this team toils in mediocrity.

    Expos were my favorite ball team, I must be a gluten for punishment

    • Jakester

      Sens- Expos fan(used to go to 25-30 Expos games a year)! I feel the same pain dude! I missed some great Guerrero years doesn’t sit well with me at all!

  • karlssens

    I don’t mind not being a ceiling team, but we shouldn’t be a floor team eithe based on revenue. I’ve said it before, we are a middle of the pack team financially and we always will be. If we could retain all players, plus dish out 5 mill that would make us so much for competitive. Being around 62 mill would be a lot better than 57.. Adds a top 4 d man.

    • I’m just sayin’

      and a top 4 D-Man gets this year’s team into the Playoffs

  • Jayme Reid

    I love this blog but people please don’t take everything you read online as fact i am talking about other blogs etc that have tried to make things worse then they are now back to this blog its great i wish all blogs were as good as this one.

  • Sandy

    I know the Sens signed Driedger.. but I didn’t know they also signed Vincent Dunn.. But were signed to ATO.. so Dunn is added to the BSens roster…
    Don’t know a lot about Dunn.. but 51 pts (31 were goals) in 50 games for Gatineau and 156 penalty minutes… 5ft11 — 188 lbs.
    Trying to change the tone a little bit. It’s depressing thinking about Melnyk…

    • karlssens

      The more we talk about Melnyk this offseason the more he knows he’s not welcome.

      • Sandy

        Do you think he really cares what we think? He just relaxes in Barbados,.. doesn’t give a crap..

        • karlssens

          Better than acting like nothing is wrong. Blogs like this help. Let’s hope it’s the start of something big.

      • Jayme Reid

        Look at Mlse most can’t stand them but they get bigger and bigger.

    • karlssens

      Vincent Dunn is just like Gallagher. Really impressive player.

      • Sandy

        Good…

      • Zelle

        Oooh I like that.

    • Jakester

      Dunn plays like Marchand really stirs the pot! Trouble maker with skill.

  • LeafsSux

    Now im more confused than I was a week ago… I think my 10 game pak turned into a 3 game pak for next yr unless something happens in or favor over the summer..

  • karlssens

    Next game I go to I’m making a sign saying “sell the team” or something. We gotta make it visible and tangible for Eugene.

    • Jayme Reid

      It won’t make any difference most fans are happy with Melynk as the owner.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        I wouldn’t go that far… Most fans are 100% indifferent to who the owner is.

      • WaitingSince92

        Most fans? What do you base that on?

        I see a lot of fans on this site. I don’t see one, NOT ONE positive comment about Eugene.

        I defy you to find one.

  • luckan20

    Good post chirp. I used to drive for almost 5 hours to get to Ottawa to watch games. I always buy 10-12 game tickets. Commuting on average 9.5 hours for the game. I have stopped doing it in the last two seasons. I am not at all excited to drive, spend money for 4 in the Coke zone and watch Greening, Condra and or mediocrity.
    I was planning to buy few games next season, but it will all matters what we do in June/July. From what I hear or read, the product might not deliver a play-off hope or ….

  • Zelle

    Wooooo Blues scored!

  • Zelle

    Hrm… I never used to pay much attention to Melnyk until this year, but last year he was saying that he was doing fine when the league wanted to intervene. And now they need to save? He just sounds like a greedy guy to me.

    http://www.wellandtribune.ca/2013/08/16/ottawa-senators-owner-eugene-melnyk-criticizes-jp-barry-for-agents-role-in-daniel-alfredsson-contract-negotiations

  • SensFanInMTL

    Holy jumping ballsack, Chirp. Christ.

    I have absolutely nothing to add. However, this must not go unheard. Someone in the organization must stumble upon this site every now and then. The dedication and hard work you and all of us readers put to make this site as successful as it gets, this rant in particular just can’t be read as “some fan’s or blogger’s opinion.” Some way, some how, this must be known by the Sens organization. If I was even able to hand pick an owner, it’d be you. I don’t think I know what the fuck I’m talking about at the moment. I’m just going on instinct right now. We’ll just leave it at that.

  • Corey Trevor

    Salty. Great post SC, great post – now bury it deep down in there, and never bring it up again.

  • Sandy

    Oh to have a Kane and a Toews… Wow

  • Zelle

    It’s like all the playoff teams forgot how to play defense…

    • Sandy

      Hey… the Sens would fit in well with that..

      • Zelle

        I was JUST thinking that lol

      • Jakester

        Let’s hope in 3-4 years fans of other teams will be saying oh to have a Turris,Zibby, and a Lazar! Lazar two series victories away from the Mem Cup. Kid is on a mission!

  • slavitch

    Eugene got divorced, like billionaires tend to do, and like most rich folk with huge egos kept the illiquid assets rather than lose control over them. He’s going to pull as much profit out of the team until he sells it, whenever that is.

    • Jakester

      Well with the huge Tv money he could easily sell this team and the barn for 500 million you’d have to figure!

  • ZaZa

    I wrote this comment 2 days ago but I had no idea u would write a great rant like that Chirp. I should’ve saved it for here, if I would’ve known.

    “In order to be a successful business man or close to it in this
    world, u have to have the ability to sell bullshit to people and Melnyk
    is great at selling bullshit.

    He sold us bullshit at the beginning of the season and now he’s selling it at the end of the season. Who’s buying this time?”

    As u can see, ur finally on my page chirp ;)

    • SensChirp

      I’ve been on this page since Alfie walked. Just finally put it on THIS page.

      • ZaZa

        I’m happy u caught it because I been seeing the patterns for a few years now. When u have a billionaire preaching “internal budget” u know bullshit is peaking its head around the corner.

        When Rod Bryden had the team he spent money even though the Canadian dollar was not to kind and we had a team the was a President trophy winner and divisional champions for years. But because of the dollar he had to sell.

        But now, Melnyk has this team with a strong dollar and got this team on a great profit with the value of the team that skyrocketed and it’s only going up with all these deals. The man is a clear liar on his budget rants and sucking the fans dry. When an owner uses his business’ money for his personal use, that’s wrong, That money is to help enhance the team and to help pay for the staff to keep that center alive.

        U don’t buy a sports team to make money, u buy it so u have status in the sports world.

        • Zelle

          You know not to a trust a guy that has so many political friends!

  • FistsofNeil25

    Bouwmeester-Pietrangelo
    Jackman-Shattenkirk
    Leopold-Polak

    Keith-Seabrook
    Oduya-Hjalmarsson
    Leddy-Rozsival

    Methot-Karlsson
    Cowen-Gryba
    Phillips-Ceci
    Wiercioch

    Budget defense vs Contending defense

    • Zelle

      Those guys aren’t looking much better than our guys right now though…

      • FistsofNeil25

        Our guys would probably be down 5 or 6 goals by now. Watch how well STL and CHI’s defensemen skate and move the puck. We regularly dressed 3 or 4 guys a night all season long who have stone hands and heavy feet.

        We want to be a puck possession team like Chicago but we don’t have a defense built anywhere close to being able to play that way.

        • Zelle

          I agree about Sens defensemen and moving the puck. Still they are doing a lot of rookie mistakes right now, which I think Sens would easily take advantage of. Nevertheless, I want changes as well.

          • FistsofNeil25

            Game 1 jitters and both teams are very good offensively. Mistakes will happen before both teams settle in.

          • Zelle

            Chicago with game day jitters?

          • FistsofNeil25

            It’s the playoffs man. I don’t think it matters how much experience you have, there’s still going to be jitters when there’s so much at stake. Especially when your opponent is a heavy hitting team like St Louis.

          • Zelle

            Last season Blues games were pretty low scoring. Now it’s 5 in one period. Chicago was low in goals against too. I’m just saying I don’t think it’s first game jitters but w/e I guess we’ll see as the week goes on. They are also making a lot of mistakes we’ve been hating on Sens’ defense for. Just an observation to your comparison.

            edit: also I would think experience matters other we’d just play our rookies all the time ;)

          • Zelle

            Perhaps you were right. Much better second period! Although Crawford made some ridiculous saves.

        • Jakester

          Man did tampa’s D look slow last night, was Brutal!

          • Zelle

            Yeah it made me sad. But then Subban was slow and more brutal so it balanced out in the end.

          • Jakester

            Lol, he does some strange things out there. He’s a real turkey!

          • Zelle

            Yeah like that useless spinorama twice, which didn’t fool anyone. I did pick Montreal to win in my bracket though.

  • Cicero

    A really great post, Chirp. A coup might be the answer, and I hope you’re the General leading the Sens Army to the Emperor’s gates!

  • Sandy

    Flyers not doing so well… down 4-1 in the 3rd.. They only have 15 shots on net… Don’t go too far with that.

  • Jakester
  • Dirtysweetness

    I’m so glad you posted this! There is a lot of us that feel this way and it’s sickening.
    Keep up the great work!
    CC

  • Zelle

    Wow Melnyk is one shady guy. Charged with fraud in the US, plead to lesser charges and paid the penalty fines. Charged with lesser charges in Canada. Then tried to intimidate a Barbados website reporting on it with legal actions. One of his horses was also disqualified for drugging.

    After reading all of this it’s difficult to see how this kind of man would change all of a sudden.

  • jtf927

    great post Chirp. great great post. it is the great city of Ottawa, loyal fans, and smart GM’s like Murray who have built this team. melnyk has done nothing but alienate the league and the city. melnyk is poison in the organization. he has a big mouth and an even bigger insatiable ego. he needs to go.

  • Sandy

    Great young player that Jaden Swartz…

  • Cicero

    13 high sticks and holds and the 1st OT penalty is puck over the glass. Gawd I hate that penalty…

    • Zelle

      Such a good game, such a dumb penalty. And no delay of game penalty for the Hawks trying to mess with the offside?!

  • Colin

    You can trip, slash, interfere, cross-check, high stick in the chops…etc and it gets overlooked by the jokers that pass for NHL refs. Player safety? Game management? Complete incompetence? Just don’t chip the puck over the glass. They seem to be able to call that right every time. What a friggin joke.

  • Zelle

    Lapierre is the perfect 3rd/4th liner. Too bad he used to dive a lot and was careless with the stupid head hits and elbows. He’s really effective without all that crap.

    • Jakester

      3rd liner that’s like calling Greening-Smith-Neil third liners! LaPierre and our guys are good 4 liners at best!

      • Zelle

        I think Smith is a 3rd liner. If Greening played to his potential he could be too. You’re correct about Neil.

        • Jakester

          Smith can be a third liner but on a crappy team only!

  • Captain Karl

    I think we all need to settle down a bit with regards to Melnyk. Is he the optimal owner, No. Is he going to sell the team anytime soon, No.
    We may be a cap floor team next season but the following year we will need to resign Ryan, MacA, Zibanijad, Methot, Stone and Lehner. That will likely cost an additional 8-10 million. Also add to that salaries that are incrementing upwards (Turris, Karlsson, Cowen) Theres another 3 million or so. That will put us closer to the cap ceiling than the floor with room to add a piece or 2 when the time is right.

    • SensChirp

      I think we’ve all done a pretty good job of settling down about the Melnyk thing but believe we are at a stage where fans need to start asking tough questions about what the hell is really going on and what the real plan is here.
      The spend wisely/focus on player development angle is insulting to our intelligence.

      • Conor_smythe

        the real frustrating part is, every single one of us can put together better roster by making exactly 1 change to the current roster, but that one change will cost money

        every single one of us can put together an actual “contender status” roster by making no more than 3 changes to the current roster… but those 3 changes cost money

        its frustrating that we’re so close, and yet so far away

        we have everything we need to build a winner.. if there was an opportune time to make a run for a cup, it would have been this past season, and next season

        now its starting to sound like we’re getting ready to blow it all up again.. before we even went for it.. wtf?

      • Captain Karl

        I think if all the above players are not re signed then it will be time to ask the questions but if they are all retained then obviously they have a plan. I don’t think we are ready to compete at this time with all the green players we have on the roster. So If we are a cap floor team this year and then resign everybody we will be up at around 66-67 million the following year.

        • SensChirp

          If that’s what happens then it’s far too late. We already lost the face of the franchise over this. Not sure how much longer we can afford to wait.

          • Captain Karl

            Are you talking about Alfie or Spezza? We are nowhere near the Chicago’s and Boston’s of the league

  • Captain Karl

    Also, I am confidant that with Spezza and Michalek gone, a new power forward and a new defensive coach that we will see the return of the pesky Sens and the playoffs. You heard it here first.

  • WaitingSince92

    I’m more than a little happy you’re calling out Melnyk. Only the fans can do it, and you’re the fan with (one of) the biggest voices.

    The nature of being an owner has everyone deferring to you. The players, coaches and GM can blame each other and themselves, but none of them can blame the guy who signs the cheques.

    Someone has to and I can only hope people in the organization can pick up the obvious sentiment out there.

  • Simple Jack

    Way to get in the teams good books chirp, i dont blame the owner at all.

    I’ll admit we arent a team who needed to add a piece to make a cup run, we didnt show heart, though turris macaurthur and ceci did, many did not.

    I would spend to the cap so we had money to get the missing piece(s) to make a cup run to reward a good team.

    Our team was not good, lehner was bad most of the games he played, andy was put into the net too early when returning to the lineup, karlsson didnt challenge other teams with a pokecheck that couldve saved a goal, we got the bad end of some calls…

    I’ll say this year we were not good enough. Previously before the cap era and the heatly,spezza,alfredsson resignings we had only spend 38 mil on a cup contending roster.

    What i do blame is some choices our coaching staff made, leaving a goalie in the game resulted in embarassment, a change could have fired up the troops, not calling a timeout on several montreal and other games we were leading before the large momentum swing, keeping cowen in the lineup way too long and playing him big minutes, not trading for a vet d man, and to top things off resigning a declining veteran dman.

    We have such a wealth of youth we can use them all, trade some for good players not avarage, i would’ve went after moulson over hemsky, thats just me.

    • SensChirp

      Please don’t miss the point of the article. He is not to blame for the team’s disappointing season. Not alone, anyway. Also not insisting that he spend recklessly. Just that he stop lying to fans about what his real motives are at this point in his Ownership.

      I even said “this version of Eugene Melnyk” at the end because I know he wasn’t always this way. When he got here, he really did want to win a Stanley Cup. But that has changed.

      • whammer44

        Thats a good point. As Melnyk said, he did spend more in the beginning. So why has it changed? Its pretty simple, his losses are real and he doesn’t have deep pockets. The evaluation of the Sens worth continues to rise so his asset grows but he has no real money to spend.

        Theres a reason the name of Scotiabank Place is now CTC and why Scotiabank no longer is the Melnyk’s primary lender.

        I believe his ego still wants to win a cup but I think that’s tempered by his financial resources and he has convinced himself that he can be financially frugal and still compete.

        I’m also frustrated but I’m prepared to wait and see what happens this off season with trades, signings, acquisitions, etc before I totally lose my shit.

    • SensChirp

      To your first point, yes I was absolutely concerned about how this article might be received by the team and that it may take me out of their “good books”. Not sure I was ever there, really. But the problem is I’ve heard countless similar rants to this from people that work IN the organization.

      Listen, I get that not everyone will agree with this article and that some people might even be angry about it. But like all of you, I am a fan first. And this was an article written by a frustrated fan.

    • WaitingSince92

      Ouch. First person I’ve seen defending Melnyk.

      “Why spend to the cap when we’re not contenders?” seems to be Melynk’s motto. It’s sensible, but coming out of a rebuild, we shouldn’t be so close to the floor.

      You don’t have to spend to the cap, but you also don’t want to enshitten (that’s right) your team by setting an arbitrary cap. Keeping Alfie wouldn’t have made us a contender, but that doesn’t mean you don’t need him, and that your push through the rebuild would be a lot easier/smoother with him in the mix.

      And on top of that, do I really have to devote time to explaining why a $38M team from about 8 years ago is COMPLETELY irrelevant?

    • mr.slapshot

      “Way to get in the teams good books chirp” You must work for the media. Seems they’re more worried about being in the “good books” than asking real questions too.

  • Simple Jack

    I didnt think i’d ever read such a tempered and non factual article here but i just did.

    #Shamed

    • SensChirp

      Yea, I didn’t think I’d ever have to write an article like this.

  • Dirk-Diggler

    Next year is the last year of the cheap pipeline of talent… a lot of our guys are due for new contracts and they will be bigger. 15-16 our team SHOULD be in the 65M range of salaries… At least I hope so…

    • FistsofNeil25

      That’s if we sign all our guys. It’s more likely that we’ll only be able to keep some of them.

      • WaitingSince92

        Never thought I’d be worried about Melnyk not being able to (or maybe choosing not to) afford resigning our young talent…

  • Sandy

    After watching that Chicago-St Louis game last night.. made me realize that the Sens are no where close to competing with that through a 7 game series.. at least right now.
    As for Spezza.. IF he is traded.. is it because he wanted to go, the Sens want to go in another direction, or the budget. Because if Spezza is gone it leaves the $$$ to sign Ryan, McArthur, etc.. and Melnyk couldn’t afford to keep all of them…

    • FistsofNeil25

      Yeah I was thinking the same. I’m envious of some of the talent these other teams possess. It’s almost not even fair. Not just St Louis and Chicago, San Jose is stacked, Colorado with MacKinnon, Duchene, Landeskog, O’Reilly, Johnson, Barrie. How do we compete with that? So much top end talent it’s not even funny.

      • Sandy

        Suck for several years at the bottom of the standings and get numerous top 3 picks and hope it’s a stellar draft at that time.
        But fans in Ottawa would never settle for a bad team….

        • FistsofNeil25

          That’s not true. People were ready to embrace the rebuild. The thing is we remained competitive through the first two years of the rebuild and never reached the bottom. That’s not a bad thing though.. last year and the year before were exciting for fans, capped off by a 7 game series against the #1 seed Rangers and a first round domination of the Habs.

          The last 12 months were a major step back for the team in some ways. Losing Alfie was devastating for the fan-base and no doubt just as devastating for the team, especially it’s players.

          Now Spezza wants out. This organization has never been able to do what it takes to keep it’s star players happy for long enough. Hossa, Chara, Heatley, Alfie, now Spezz. That’s why when someone like Bobby is up for a new contract and says this is where he wants to be, I still have doubts that the organization will be able to make it happen and do what it takes to make him happy.

          It’s sad, but I’m losing more and more faith in this organization as time goes on.

          • WaitingSince92

            Very sad. Seems that pretty recently it was a foregone conclusion that our organization was one of the ‘smart’ ones. I don’t want to become one of those shit-show franchises constantly wasting our talent…

          • Sandy

            IF the budget continues.. the Sens will eventually be developing their young players for other organizations. Because when they get to the point of demanding big raises.. Melnyk can’t afford it.. and they will get traded away.
            This team could be in a constant re-building and developing team..

        • peetypuck

          Next year would be the year to tank for the Sens with McDavid as the prize. Trading Spezza could possibly get us a top draft pick this year too. That seems to be the only way to build a championship team now. In two years time our young forwards and defence should start hitting their prime.

    • Captain Karl

      You got that right Sandy. That game made the Habs-Bolts game look like beer league hockey

  • WaitingSince92

    You just know Euge thinks he’s the savvy owner, fighting for his unpopular stance against the ‘idiotic fan who just wants to spend’.

    Condescending as fuck! Makes me so angry when he talks down to the fans.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Chirp, I don’t know how you’re ever going to steer the conversation away from this issue. It’s hard not to think/talk about. I consider myself as big a fan as anyone. I eat/sleep/breathe Sens hockey and the state of this franchise has honestly brought my over mood and spirits down. I know that sounds a bit ridiculous but it’s true.

    We should be reflecting on the season we had, the off-season moves we would like to see, and reasons to be excited for the future. Instead, our loud-mouth owner goes on the radio and rattles the majority of this fan-base. It’s sad that it has come to this. I know there are still quite a few Sens fans who think people like you and I are over-reacting, but it almost magnifies the issue when I turn on the TV at night and see 16 teams owned by “idiots” who are willing to do whatever it takes to bring a championship celebration to their fan-base

  • Spartanblood

    I was hoping I would read about this more, but one comment by melnyk on tsn 1200 Monday really bothered me and again showed him lying. Melnyk said we couldn’t have done the bobby ryan deal if we kept alfie. This was alluded to in the past but confirmed Monday by Melnyk. So, in other words, we couldn’t afford to stay more competitive to make the playoffs to pay the player who’s the face of our franchise whatever he wanted. And what did melnyk say back then? “Give him whatever he wants.”

    So we couldn’t afford to go up to 57 million or whatever it would’ve been with alfie on board. And for those who think we wouldn’t have made it to the playoffs just because of alfie, do you really think he didn’t have a major effect on the players’ psyche? I beg to differ on that point and feel we would’ve definitely been in the playoffs right now.

    So where does this slippery slope end with melnyk? Will we deem karlsson expendable when his contract is almost over too? Melnyk needs to either acquire financial help to run the sens competitively (not spend to the cap but at least retain players like alfie who had a huge impact on us) or get out.

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Except they also said at the time that Alfie was aware that they were going to go after Ryan as they tried to use that to sell the team to him…. Which again contradicts.

      I think Melnyk isn’t aware that he is in a Canadian market…. Where everything is hyper analyzed and if you contradict yourself it will be caught

  • dulse

    Bryan Murray’s meddling with coaching and inserting himself between the players and their coach had more to do with this seasons failures than how much money was spent
    I am glad Melnyk stepped in this time before Murray could fire Maclean though Murray did succeed in cutting him off at the knees and sabotaging his authority with the players.
    Murray has hired and fired more coaches than most owners would put up with SInce Murray took over as GM the Sens have had one calamity after another and a virtual coaching carousel. Then for the last 2 years they exceeded expectations, This had been attributed in part to the coaching .Now Murray and his acolytes are claiming that coaching had nothing to so with it, it was sheer good luck and good goalkeeping. though two years ago the goalkeeping was pretty bad.
    Murray admitted that fumbling the Alfie file was not good for the team and related it to 2 other incidents in his career. Actually looking at the patterns in Murrays GM history is pretty revealing, His pattern here is similar only difference is that the owner seems to take him for a guru and has kept him on way past his best before date.
    And no matter what happens, Murray never wears the blame. He deflects it to the owner, the coach the players-everywhere but the man who built the team .Many of the coaching decision-the overplaying of Cowen the underplaying of Weircioch-have more the mark of Murray than Maclean-in any case he s a meddlesome GM when it comes to coaching after having been a coach for so long, and he just cant let go.
    But then at the end of the day,. its MacLean who has to bear the blame for coaching decision even when those decision are imposed on him from above.
    Around the league I am sure it was considered that Murrays self serving tirade said more about the GM than the coach.

    • Sandy

      Murray has to run this team on a shoe-string budget.
      Alfie left because of Melnyk and his budget. Do you actually think it was Murray’s idea to offer Alfie 4.5M? No.. it’s all he could ‘afford’.
      I get he has gone through quite a few coaches… but to have fired McLean because of 1 bad season after 2 good ones.. would have made him look pretty stupid.

    • BeJamin

      You seem clueless. One, your accusation is baseless because you don’t really know what Murray’s opinion is of the coaching. Eugene is sitting in on player exit meetings, that kind of shit is a farce.

      Murray is the one who hires the coaching staff. He is allowed to have input on and discussion about the decisions being made. Maybe they aren’t always on the same page, but that’s normal. It’s part of his job to figure out what is working for his coach and what isn’t and to talk with him about it. Like he said, P-Mac was more of a teaching coach the last 2 years and the players liked that. This year, P-Mac admitted himself he tried to be harder on the players and it didn’t work out nearly as well.

      You talk like Murray isn’t allowed to be involved in the hockey decisions. He’s a hockey guy and a coach himself. It’s not like he’s some clueless meddler. He chooses the players, and the coach coaches the game. It’s not like Murray is deciding the starting goaltender or who plays what shifts and when. That’s P-Mac’s job. Doesn’t mean Murray can’t have conversations with P-Mac and offer his perspective on the situation.

      At the end of the day, P-Mac coaches the team. If Murray was controlling him he would just leave or demand to be fired. He doesn’t seem the sort who would put up with a GM trying to micromanage his decisions. The owner on the other hand is a more difficult situation. I’m sure P-Mac’s beef with the management/owner this year is largely just on what players he was given to work with…

      A) He probably wanted Alfie & another veteran D who can play (similar to Gonchar)

      B) He probably wanted Stone/Da Costa/Pageau/Hoffman to be up and stay up instead of being kept down as a result of salary

      At the end of the day, lots of things cost this team this year. There is lots of blame to go around, but i lay most of it at the foot of the owner.

    • sben

      more like “dunce”. You clearly have no idea about what has been going on with the sens and Murray has kept this team semi-competitive even with the strapping internal budget he’s had to deal with. You’re lucky that a person like Be-jamin is willing to use his time to explain to you what is wrong with your comment even though IMO your comment doesn’t deserve a response because it is so badly informed.

    • Doc

      Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…*cough cough* hahaha,…haha………..ha.

    • not YOUR wingman

      …… and Eugene Pinchpenny paid you how much to post this ?

      Or you’re just a ZipZapcRap troll

  • karlssens

    How could anyone in their right mind defend Melynk? I’m usually pretty accepting to other people’s posts, but man, defending Melnyk is a crime upon its own to me!

  • NickofTime

    If Melnyk would just spend to keep the players we ended the season with Ottawa would have a pretty good team but that might mean adding a few more million to that damn internal budget which we know he won’t do. And there is no sense in hoping BM can make a trade or two to improve the hockey team because the strategy is if salary comes in salary must go out & that handcuffs any GM.

    The biggest problem with this franchise is definitely the owner, I have always hated listening to him on TV or the radio, I always found him saying stupid things & embarrassing himself, the franchise & the city. My conclusion is that this is all about the casino & the city not letting him get what he wants, more revenue streams. I didn’t like it when he kicked Marshy (a really good decent guy) out of SBP to build Bert’s Bar. Another greedy billionaire, the more they have the more they want.

  • A-Train

    Re Melnyk sitting in on exit interviews.

    He says he sat in on 4 or 5 interviews. What if he wanted a chance to look a few of the top players in the eye and tell them he has a plan? What that be so bad?

    • Doc

      Yes, it would be.

      Not his job to be there. It serves no purpose.

      • Zelle

        Oh to be a fly on the wall…

      • bluebuyyoo

        Why would it be such a bad thing for the owner of a company to actually talk with his employees?

    • Sandy

      A plan? His plan is to save not to spend. And this team won’t make the playoffs in a competitive eastern conference.. if they can’t put 5 or 6 good top 6 forwards in the lineup… If Spezza, Michalek, Hemsky are gone.. then this team has 3 top 6. I don’t count Zibby in that as he is still a developing player…

      • Shibal

        Actually, if Zibanejad was given the chance to play in the top 6 the entire year, he would have probably scored about 20+ goals, and would have produced a lot more than Michalek. I’m pretty sure you have already witnessed what Zib can do when he is playing with skilled players like Hemsky. 90% of Zib’s production this year has come from getting chances to play in the top 6, but for some inexplicable reason he has always been yanked from the top 6 despite his steady production.

  • Sandy

    That must hurt soooooo much… Ouch

  • sben

    gonna post this one last time. If you want to usurp Eugene Melnyk sign this petition:

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/enough-is-enough-melnyk-it-is-time-for-you-to

    • BeJamin

      Look I’m going to be honest again here, your petition is poorly written and it’s filled with things we only have speculated evidence about (the success/failure of his other business ventures in particular). If you want a petition people will want to sign (like more than 5) you should just take SC’s post (with his permission) and use that. And then at the top write “I implore you to read this and not support a petition to Melnyk to either change his ways or move the team/look for an investor”. It’s not like the only option is him leaving, there are other options that could help the team get to the point that he will spend enough (which would solve the problem). I don’t really care about his antics much as long as he’s spending and the hockey operations guys (Murray in particular) are confident enough to tell him to fuck off when he tries to meddle. Which honestly, I think we should give Murray credit and assume that’s exactly what he does. I don’t imagine that guy actually listens to anything Eugene tells him to do. Just that he’s handcuffed by a shortage of funds.

    • WaitingSince92

      No offence, but no one is going to sign this.

      It reads like it was written by a 13 year old girl who is angrily writing about her parents in her diary after being grounded (although I can certainly appreciate your sentiments).

    • senate19

      I agree with some of the other posters – as I’ve said before, a petition is the way to go, in my opinion, but I think your petition is a little wordy and could be written better.

      Is there someone out there who would be willing to write a few simple paragraphs, professionally thanking Mr. Melnyk for his contributions, while still promoting he move on to other ventures?

      I’ll sign it

    • sben

      I edited and revised the petition. Read it now and see what you think. When I wrote it the first version I did it in 5 minutes and wasn’t thinking too clearly (anger). Hope you guys like it.

  • Phil.

    I thought we already clarified that Melnyk did not sit on formal exit interviews. He talked to 4-5 players while the exit interviews were taking place.

    • A-Train

      Is that it? Sounds more realistic.

  • Richard Gough

    So the question is what can be done to get that ass hole out of office and sell the team?

    • SensChirp

      I really don’t think that’s the only positive outcome. There was a time when this same guy was a great owner who’s top priority was winning a Cup.

      • Zelle

        Fans may have to endure it until he’s ready to be that guy again then.

      • WaitingSince92

        “Buckle up your seatbelt!”

      • Jakester

        Is he off his meds?

  • 57gord

    Harold Ballard did this for years in Toronto. Why spent when the place is sold out every night, no matter what? I think Ottawa fans are smarter and from a much smaller city so this will not work here. I did not re-up for next season.
    Looking at the Hawks/Blues last night, we are not even close. Will things change? I’m hoping that they will. But for now it’s kinda sad. Will I go to any games next year? I’ll play it by ear.

  • jimmyjohnson

    Totally off point, but I saw this life of Selke nominees on HFboards and I think it’s a travesty that Turris doesn’t even get a mention:

    Selke (26 ballots)

    1. Bergeron (18-7-1-0-0) 234
    2. Kopitar (7-10-5-3-0) 174
    3. Toews (0-5-12-4-2) 109
    4. Backes (1-2-4-11-4) 83
    5. Hossa (0-2-1-0-1) 20
    6. O’Reilly (0-0-1-2-5) 16
    7. Pavelski (0-0-1-2-1) 12
    8. Couturier (0-0-1-1-3) 11
    9-10. Getzlaf (0-0-0-1-1) 4
    9-10. Plekanec (0-0-0-1-1) 4
    11. Steen (0-0-0-1-0) 3
    12-19. Stastny (0-0-0-0-1) 1
    12-19. Couture (0-0-0-0-1) 1
    12-19. Zetterberg (0-0-0-0-1) 1
    12-19. Little (0-0-0-0-1) 1
    12-19. Vermette (0-0-0-0-1) 1
    12-19. Cogliano (0-0-0-0-1) 1
    12-19. Thornton (0-0-0-0-1) 1
    12-19. Palat (0-0-0-0-1) 1

    This fanbase needs to start pumping this guy’s 200 foot game better.

    He was +22 on a team that was -29. That’s a 50 goal differential better than his team’s results. If we had 12 of him, we’d be dominant.

    • Zelle

      He would probably get better props if he were on a winning team, sadly.

    • Jakester

      I agree, no Rispeck for Turris.

  • Zachpraisetheswedes

    Here’s my plan for next year which would make the team better and save Eugene a bit of cash:

    -trade Spezza for E.Kane
    -trade whatever package for Stewart
    -don’t resign Michalek or Hemsky
    -if possible trade Wierchoch, 2015 1st and a prospect for a top 4Dman similar to Methot
    -sign Lehner to a multi year salary/cap friendly deal
    -keep Anderson and resign him to be the backup for 2mil per

    We’d end up with something like this…

    MacArthur Turris Ryan
    E.Kane Zibanejad Stewart
    Hoffman Pageau/DaCosta Stone
    Greening Smith Neil

    Methot Karlsson
    Cowen ??
    Phillips Gryba
    Borowiecki

    This would bring more speed to the lineup as well as that toughness that Murray keeps eluding to. Both Kane and Stewart play a very physical game but can also put the puck in the net

    • Zelle

      Ceci isn’t on your roster? Also they’re not bringing Kassian back, so Neil could be an extra and play Condra instead?

      Edit:
      I think they should try and keep Wiercioch because he’s shown a lot of potential and he and Turris are good friends. I also think they should hold on to Ceci as he is a local boy and grew up a Senators fan, that’s good roots to have a loyal, hard working player on your team. Keeping Karlsson and Methot are no brainers, and Phillips we are stuck with. I think Cowen, Gryba, and Borocop should be the odd ones out and one of them should be shopped. Probably Borocop or Gryba. I’d also move Smith to the third line and put Pageau on the fourth. If they want to package up Condra you could even do Greening – DaCosta – Pageau on the forth line?

      • Zachpraisetheswedes

        Oh my bad. Forgot about Ceci. I guess Ceci and Phillips on third pairing and Gryba and Boro as extras

      • Brutus5247

        Logic has it that it is a left shot. Boro has no value really. It will be another left shot #2 or 46

        • Zelle

          I guess it’ll come down to whether or not they think Wiercioch can put on some muscle to start hitting and winning puck battles, cause that’s probably his biggest weakness.

      • Jakester

        I agree, I think Cowen is a total mess not convinced he gets his shit together ever! I would include him in a package? Wiorcioch and Claessen are better than him.

        • Zelle

          I don’t like Cowen much either but I can see his potential, whereas I think Gryba may have reached is already. If Cowen could stop having brain freeze mid play and hit more like Gryba I’d say he’s a keeper.

    • Sandy

      Trade whatever package for Stewart. Rumours are Tim Murray wanted Curtis Lazar… So no..
      Trade the 2015 first round… NO again. We don’t know if this team will even make the playoffs next season.. and it’s a good draft..
      E Kane is a good young player.. but apparently has character issues…

  • SensChirp
  • Mitchell

    How much money will it take to buy this team, if optional

  • Harv

    There is a lot of speculation going on. I am going to wait to see what happens during the off season before judging.

    I did not hear Melnyk say he attended any exit briefings. What I heard was that he talked to about five players at the time of their exit briefings to get their read on the season.In most businesses consulting with the line workers is seen as a good thing for the CEO. Doesn’t necessarily mean he is meddling, at least not yet. Not defending Melnyk, just quoting what he actually said in the interview.

    I still think this team is close and I like what we have. I sound like Leeder but then again I didn’t think saying you like what you have is so bad.

    This glass is more than half full. There are a lot of people here who are focusing on the empty portion.

    • FistsofNeil25

      No, there are a lot of people here who focus on how we’re going to fill the rest of that glass with such a low internal budget.

    • SensChirp

      The exit interview thing was cleared up afterwards. Or the story was altered based on original fan response. Either way, it’s odd behaviour for an owner but not really a huge deal.
      The stuff in this particular article has nothing to do with whether or not he attended an exit interview.

    • Sandy

      This team is not close… It’s going to be down 2-3 top 6 forwards.. and you can’t get into the playoffs without 2 good lines…
      Every team in the East will get better… the Sens just get cheaper.. or stay the same..

      • FistsofNeil25

        Yeah if Hemsky, Spezza, and Milo are just replaced from within it’s safe to say that we won’t be any better next season… especially if we don’t add a veteran top four defenseman.

  • Zakary

    Who the hell will want to by a team where the fans treat the owner like shit?
    I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt, he has been generous with the people, children of ottawa, the team and fans. He wants to build a casino and develop around SBP witch would be great for the team but no the city rejects it and he gets no support from the fans no as soon has it gets a little bit though they want you out. I would be pissed off if I was in is shoes.

    • Zakary

      Sorry about the spelling I’m french

      • Mitchell

        I’m more pissed because his pissing money on a project claiming his got no money. Casinos aren’t free

        • Mitchell

          Maybe his trying to hurt the city’s rep with a bad team so they give him one… Hmm

        • Zakary

          He’s not claiming that he’s broke and I think if the team stays in kanata, investing in a casino is a smart investment not just for him but the team

        • Sandy

          He had business partners for the Casino…

    • Zelle

      I think that people are most upset about the fact that he is lying (contradicting himself publicly) and that instead of stating “We are committed to bringing the best players to Ottawa and winning the Stanley Cup.” he keeps talking about his stupid internal budget, and then tops that off by calling other owners who do spend to the limit idiots.

    • not YOUR wingman

      who the Hell wants to support a team owned by someone who treats fans like shit ?

  • Brutus5247

    It wasn’t a bad move to sign Phillips to a contract. If he walked the club got nothing. Now if the team wants to move him Phillips needs to give 10 teams that he won’t go to. That opens up an asset in return.

    • FistsofNeil25

      uh what? He could have been dealt this season but we chose to re-sign him. That contract wasn’t so we could just end up trading for another asset, it was to keep him a Senator for another two seasons. That’s why it was a bad move.

      • Brutus5247

        Limited nmc as of Cap Geek.

        • FistsofNeil25

          He had a NMC until Jan 1, 2014 when it then became a limited NTC that required him to submit a list of 10 teams he would accept a trade to.

          • Brutus5247

            Capgeek has the next 2 years as limited NMC.

          • FistsofNeil25

            So why was it a good move to re-sign him then? We could have dealt him this season when he had a limited NTC from January 1st until the deadline.

            That was a horrible signing.

          • Brutus5247

            No takers at the time? Might get a second over the summer?

          • Jakester

            You’re right we can still trade him! With Boro’s one way I thinkPhillips might get moved!

  • sensofurgency

    The Packers are the only community-owned franchise in American professional sports major leagues. Can we Sens fans change this?

  • Sandy

    Appreciate what James Gordon wrote today. It’s about time an Ottawa sportswriter had the guts to write about this.
    Yes he can do what he wants. But he is getting in about 40M in TV revenue.. and he can’t add a minimum $5M to his budget from the past season to try to make the team a little bit better?
    That’s my issue with this. He’s getting a good deal of money from the NHL.. but, it appears, that money is not being spent on the team… Doesn’t appear any of it is being spent on the team…

  • FistsofNeil25

    Oh man… I was just looking at some of the Sens contracts for next year. Colin Greening has a modified NTC in his contract. It’s bad enough he’s making 2.65 million for the next 3 seasons and he’s got a damn NTC on top of it. Unbelievable.

  • FAB

    “What’s increasingly becoming the saddest part of this mess is the fact
    that the non-blogging media (the people actually getting access to
    Melnyk, in other words), have been quiet about all of this. Credit to
    Gordon for finally addressing this today – but aside from that article, I
    haven’t seen or heard much beyond a mere mention of the internal
    budget. No one seems willing to question him; no one seems willing to
    ask tough questions; no one seems willing to point out his outright lies
    and half-truths. In fact, they make matters worse by reporting what
    he’s saying to casual fans without pointing out how false his claims
    are.”

    • Jakester

      They are all paid off in free drinks at the rink so they keep quiet!

      • FAB

        First in line at the buffet table in the Press Box for Boo Boo

  • Zelle

    In lighter news, Stoner and Pageau just put the BSens up by two!

    • Sandy

      Dzingel has another assist…

      • Zelle

        I’ll have to take a look at some of his highlights. If he’s indeed anything like Gallagher I’m pretty excited!

        • Sandy

          I think that was Dunn that the reference to Gallagher was made.. Dunn’s not in the lineup tonight.

          With a win tonight the B-Sens will clinch 3rd in the conference..

          • Zelle

            Oh yeah… sorry my memory for names is _really_ bad.

          • Zelle

            Looks like Dzingel just scored to make it 3-0 :o

          • Sandy

            Now 4-0… But’s it’s Pageau and Dziurinsky (sp)..

          • Zelle

            Dammit! I suck at this game lol I need to watch more BSens

          • Sandy

            I wish I could find a decent free stream like I did last season.

          • Zelle

            That would be nice, I mostly just catch highlight reels off of youtube and such.

          • Jakester

            Do u have a stream Sandy?

          • Sandy

            No… I used to watch on BSenshockeylive… but that’s not active any longer…

          • Jakester

            I know, sniff sniff

          • Zelle

            And Pageau gets a hatty! I wish he could bring that offense to the NHL with him. I mean he’s still good but damn does he wreck in the AHL.

          • Jakester

            It’ll come in the NHL soon, just a young guy!

          • Brutus5247

            Means nothing..does not translate.

          • Shibal

            Paul Maclean from day one never even gave Pageau competent linemates – How do you expect him to translate his skills?

  • Sensturion

    Did… did Ron just say Nazem Kadri is part of the panel tomorrow…? Why must there always be Leafs content?

    • Sandy

      Who listens to CBC intermissions.. It’s bad enough to watch the games on CBC..
      I guess they want Kadri’s exceptional knowledge on the panel…. LOL

      • Zelle

        Maybe Cherry just wants to give him another shoulder massage like last time *eyeroll*

  • Sensturion

    As per usual, Montreal seems “incapable” of taking a penalty tonight. Classic refs, eh?

    • Sandy

      Tim Peel again…

      • Jakester

        Fuck I hate that tool!

  • Sandy

    Would you believe Mtl has 3 PPs to Tampa’s none.

    • aegiszx

      I know… Tim Peel, fuck off…

  • Sensturion

    Fuck I hate Subban. I hope he gets sucker punched one of these days for turtling like he does. Fucking little shit.

    • Zelle

      I wish he got traded to a team out of our division so I wouldn’t have to see him play so much. He’s a real POS.

  • Sensturion

    Once again, refs let Montreal get away with blantant hooks and slashes, and they score!

  • Zelle

    Tampa isn’t hitting them enough. Could you imagine Montreal or Tampa against the Sharks or the Kings? Smooch.

  • Sandy

    Bishop better get back in the net quickly.. or Tampa goes down in 4 games. Lindbach isn’t doing it… time for Gudelskis.. or whatever his name is. They have nothing to lose at this point..

    • Jakester

      Boggles the mind why they leave Connolly in the minors?

  • Brutus5247

    Claesson…what his defence like. Has he passed Boro in the defensive part?

    • Jakester

      I think he has the best plus-minus in the AHL. He’s a rock!

  • Sandy

    Pageau with the hattrick… B-Sens up 5-2… but WBS has scored the last 2… Don’t play like the parent club. Hold onto that lead. It’s WBS you are fighting with to get 3rd in the conference.. and a better first round matchup… Go B-Sens.

  • Sensturion

    5th most penalized team in the league this season apparently can’t do anything wrong tonight. One of the least penalized teams this season can’t seem to get away with anything. Wiese runs/checks Lindback. Healy’s response: “That’s how you play hockey.” Fuck off.

  • Sensturion

    Bergeron. Your tie is WAY too small.

    • Zelle

      He’s tough enough he can pull off any tie he wants!

  • Zelle

    Doesn’t look like Lindback will be playing the rest of the series. The backup did a good job in the Olympics though, will be interesting what he can do in the playoffs.

  • Sensturion

    How is that not a slewfoot… Christ this is ridiculous.

    • Zelle

      Huge missed call there resulting in a goal. Not that it would have changed much in this game but hey you never know.

      • Sandy

        Mtl & Det much better game…

    • Sandy

      So the Habs getting away with stuff again? That’s a surprise…

      • Zelle

        Stamkos going up the middle with the puck and gets tripped, puck turns over, Habs skate in the zone and Bourque scores.

        • Sandy

          So the refs are not even trying to hide it then? At least the Det & Bos game is reffed fairly.. Any game involving Mtl isn’t.

          • Zelle

            I probably should watch that one. I picked Montreal to win in 7 but it looks more like 4 or 5 at this pace. Sad.

          • Sandy

            The Habs fans will be difficult to deal with until they get put out in the 2nd round…

          • Zelle

            Well last time Habs went up 2-0 they lost in 7 games to Boston, so you never know! Things can change quickly in the playoffs.

  • Jakester

    First game round three WHL playoffs , Edmonton up 2-0 in the game. The rockstar Lazar has a goal. He won’t be denied!

    • Zelle

      haha Rockstar Lazar

      • Jakester

        Cool to see him in the Memorial Cup!

        • Sandy

          They have to win 2 more series before they get there. and will probably have to go through the Portland Winterhawks..

          • Zelle

            You guys know so much about our prospects I’m so impressed. I want to know more but I just have too many interests xD

          • Jakester

            It’s ok , I have faith in this kid, he went to the Mem Cup as a 16yr old. Lazar is fierce!

    • FistsofNeil25

      It’s 5-0 now. Lazar with an assist to go along with his goal.

  • Sandy

    B-Sens up 5-4,.. At one point they had a 5-0 lead.
    Even the AHL team can’t hold a lead…. about 2 min left..

    • Zelle

      That has to be focus #1 this off season, hanging on to a damn lead.

  • Sensturion

    Hahaha of course they even out penalties so Montreal still has no PK time…

  • Zelle

    Well Tampa ruins Price’s shutout!

  • Jakester

    Bsens hang on 5-4 they gave up 26 shots in the third!

    • Sandy

      Talk about sitting back….

  • Sandy

    Datsyuk just scored with 3 min left in the 3rd.. 1-0 Detroit. Howard’s been good but also luck with the bounces..

    • Zelle

      Right after Boston almost had one too.

  • Zelle

    What a goal by Datsyuk… what I would give to have him on the Sens.

  • Sandy

    Hammond with his 25th win (the most by a Bingo rookie in nearly a decade).

  • aegiszx

    Two real experienced teams, it’s a shame they have to face each other in the first round… Still maintain that the winner of this Bruins/Wings series goes to the SCF…

    • FistsofNeil25

      Yeah I think it will be Bruins/Wings and the Rangers in the ECF. Rangers are also pretty legit.

      • Zelle

        I picked Boston – Rangers for the ECF in my bracket! Whoever wins Det – Bos will likely crush the winner of Mtl – Tam.

  • KanedaGallon

    I heard through the grapevine that both MIlan and Greening have moved all their stuff to storage and that Spezza’s wife was inquiring on the logistics and a quote to do the same.

    • SensChirp

      This is gonna be a fun summer

      • KanedaGallon

        I have to admit I’m saddened about the prospect of Spezza going.

        • MrBubble

          I don’t see why some fans think moving Spezza is going to help the team move closer to Stanley Cup contention.You basically have to hope that the team is making a Yashin like deal where a new younger #1 center is being brought back in return. Aside from getting that center in a Spezza trade the team is just going to have to pray that one of Turris, Zibanejad, or Lazar becomes a #1 center while one of the remaining two establishes themselves as an elite #2 or #1b center. Baffling.

          • FistsofNeil25

            If we’re not going to spend to closer to the cap we will never contend anyway. If we were a bigger spender I would be all for keeping Spezza and surrounding him with better players. The reality is we don’t have the budget to surround him with better players.

            With an expiring contract, rumors that he wants out, and our strict internal budget, it just doesn’t make sense to hold on to him any longer. Let’s cash out on a valuable asset before we lose him for nothing.

          • MrBubble

            The second Melnyk comes out and truthfully explains that the organization is on a tight budget and survival is the goal I’ll be fine with that point. Claiming that they want to win the Cup before Murray retires and then letting Spezza walk goes completely against that goal. Personally I think moving Spezza is a great idea if they have a plan in place to restructure the team into a tight defensive hockey club, but I want them to pick a path and stick to it. Seems like the goal posts move every season.

          • Zelle

            I have to agree here. I have no issues with suffering short term and letting Spezza go since he wants out, but at least come out and say so. Don’t pretend this is all for the near term playoff hope.

          • NOBODY can play with Spezza

            it’s pretty simple – no back – no groin – no hip

            Spinner Spezza is falling apart
            He’s only 1 or 2 decent years left
            trading him to a contender now makes sense for both teams and JS19 himself

          • Jakester

            The best time is now! Team will be OK. This team will be good next year! Sign bobby and Clarke. Get a couple of decent pieces for JS19 and JC2 and we’re all set. Young intense two-way players will be the way to go with this team! Oh and ditch that 14-15-25 line please. GSG

          • Jakester

            Melnyk will spend when the time is right, panic is coming from the Spezza fans, this is a hockey move not a money move.

          • MrBubble

            These are the comments I don’t understand. When is the team going to be in a better position to succeed than right now? Guys like Turris, Zibanejad, Cowen, Ceci, Karlsson, and Lehner are all still relatively cheap and are only going to continue getting better. Currently that young core has decent players surrounding them. Add another top six forward and a top four defenseman to the team we had last year, minus Michalek, and you’ve got a group that is starting to take the shape of a contending roster.

            Trade Spezza away and now you’re going to have to wait until a new #1 center emerges. In that time all of those young players will be moving on to their next contracts where costs will rise internally and no doubt we’ll see even more home grown talent traded as the team continues looking for the “right time to spend”. The only way I really see Ottawa being in a better position than right now is if Spezza/Karlsson were playing at the level they were during the 2011/2012 season and Cowen was playing like the top 4 defenseman he has the potential to be.

          • Jakester

            Let’s wait till he’s a minus 50 next year and still taking minutes away from our other better center(Zibby)who plays positive minutes! Let’s get something for him now! The team has come out and said it, the writing is on the wall! If he was bringing us positive minutes the team would keep him cuz he’s only making 4 mill next year! Washington will rid itself of Ovechkin this summer too! Don’t worry Murray knows what he’s doing and so does Mac.

          • Zelle

            Without Spezza there is no way the Senators will be near contention for at least two years, IMO. And I’m not even a Spezza fan. And that’s with Turris – Zbad – Lazar reaching expectations in the NHL.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Getting Greening off this team would be a dream come true! Unfortunately, he probably just has his stuff in storage while he’s shopping for a bigger house to buy with that new 2.7 mill contract

    • SensGod

      I’m kind of excited to see the changes.

  • luckan20

    It might not mean anything. For example, it is not easy to move a contract like Greening.. Even if they are planning to do so, BM needs to absorb equally an absurd contract from elsewhere.
    MIchalek is good as gone, unless he comes at 60% of the salary he made this season. Therefore, he is good as gone. Spezza is a tricky situation. We moving him means taking at least 3 years step behind in terms of development. A team should not trade a top line center and most importantly point per game guy and expect to make play-offs.
    If BM moves Spezza, it will be one among stupid moves he has done in his life time. I doubt BM will move Spezza, but Eugene might want to or something like that.
    We are basically making a two scoring line team to one…..

  • Andrews theory

    “NHL Player development resources”

    Good stuff Euge

  • Andrews theory

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    • Cicero

      I enjoyed the first period. Thanks.

  • luckan20

    I still can’t understand Eugene resources spent on player development. EM comes out let me people know about the prospects. He should understand every freaking team Management things that they have solid prospects waiting to play NHL.
    With the exception of Spezza, we don’t have a top line center and there are only few in NHL too.

    This guy will run down this team to bottom and TSN will feel why the heck they got into a team which has less impact players to talk about. Also, we should remember, Karlsson might turn out and ask for a trade too. He knows that Alfie and Silfverberg gone. If Spezza moved, then next thing he will want out too.

  • Jakester
    • KanedaGallon

      MY buddy was recently voted into the Ohio State HoF as the best goaltender.

  • Phoenix

    The man has contradicted himself many times over. Going to spend and doesn’t this team is competitive but isn’t enough. I truely believes he wants to bring a cup to Ottawa but he needs to smarten up and give Murray the resources. I get having to be careful and wise with the money but at the same time you don’t need to spend crazy and have knee jerk reactions to players success. The only way I will believe Melnynk is if he grants Murray to bring in a bondafide number 1 in replace of Spezza and there is only one guy I can think of that fits the mold of what Murray wants but comes at a slight higher price tag than Spezza. If its picks, young players, and prospects then we know Melnyk is full of it.

  • son of a Diefenbaker

    PAGEAU – PAGEAU – PAGEAU

    3 goals tonight and such sweet memories from last year

  • Jakester

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HUtvwb4oqG8

    Money, here’s some money!

  • SensChirp

    Worth noting that this article has been liked/shared/favourited by current/former business partners of the team, mainstream media in Ottawa and other cities, a former Coach, current and former employees and fans.

    I apologize for focusing the conversation on this less than pleasant topic for a long period of time but I really think we are on to something.

    • esk

      What do you think is the reasoning for Melnyk’s stance? He makes more money if the team is competitive and makes the playoffs.

      • SensChirp

        This is what we all want to know more about, I think. If it’s saving to make a run next year, tell us that. The story he is selling just doesn’t add up so clearly there is something else going on. Casino is probably a safe bet considering he said flat out that if I don’t get this casino I am done investing in this city.

        • esk

          He did say that during the year when murrays contract was extended..next two years we are making a run…but unfortunately this year when the trade deadline came around…the playoffs was a long shot..so maybe they didnt want to spend then because it would of been wasted money……the casino stuff doesnt make any sense…he owns the sens 100%..if he doesnt invest in them..he is screwing himself over more then the city. Thats just him talking shit…….

    • Yukon Cornelius

      How can we see who has liked/shared/favourited your article Chirp? I guess I’m especially intrigued to see which former coach and media outlets you are referring to. (not in a disbelief kind of way)

  • Simple Jack

    So what you guys are saying is fuck you melnyk for owning and keeping an nhl team in ottawa,

    We cant wait for new ownership who will move the team to quebec or markham.

    Yeah, even melynk could move the team to a more profitable area.

    Dumb fans in ottawa dont want a team anymore.

    #Boycottottawa move to a better city.

    • esk

      agreed. These rants dont make any sense. Literally accusing Melnyk of screwing himself over.

      • BeJamin

        The accusation is that Melnyk is lying on a regular basis. If he wants to run the team like a business he should say so. A month ago he was saying “the time is now we’re going for the Stanley Cup” yet we’re dumping talent like Conacher for nothing to save a few hundred grand? Dumping Alfie to not pay him? It doesn’t add up buddy. It’s pretty obvious he’s pocketing the profit from the team and that is exactly his intention. The idea that he would make “even more money” isn’t even that logical. Even if he gets one playoff round he’d only be making MAYBE 1-2M per home game. Fans are asking him to spend 5-15M more as the cap increases. If you were trying to make money would you skimp the payroll to guarantee profit or would you cross your fingers that you play at least 7-8 playoff home games to make the same amount of money you could have guaranteed yourself by going with a lower payroll? He only makes more of they play in the conference finals or beyond man.

        • Simple Jack

          He didnt dump conacher for nothing, hoffman was ready to move up and conacher wasnt producing. Hoffman being an rfa demanded the sens to see him play nhl hockey to decide if he deserves a new contract

          • BeJamin

            You really swallow hard for Melnyk’s loads eh? Conacher was put on waivers. He was the 5th highest point per time on ice player on the team. So yes, he was producing. He just wasn’t getting much ice to do it in. He was absolutely obliterating Greening in terms of his nightly contribution to the team. The difference is Conacher was on a two-way meaning when he was claimed the team got PAID. It was a move to save money, period. Full stop. We did not give away a 23 year old for nothing because Hoffman was a shining star. We gave him away to save money. If you really believe he wasn’t ahead of 3-4 guys on the coaches depth chart you’re pretty much insane.

          • Jakester

            Conacher wasn’t accomplishing much, they wanted to see some other guys in the system. They could have gotten rid of Condra instead but Murray gave that turd a two year contract.

        • esk

          So what? He can pocket the money if he wants. He has been spending all these years when we were on top. He wants to save up and do it again mayb? Plus those playoff games are 1-3mill per game + build up for next season + experience for players/managment + growing the fanbase etc etc …worth a lot more then 1-3 million that you talk about…melnyk didnt become a billionaire cause he was stupid..

          • BeJamin

            If he wants to do that then BE HONEST about it. It is his team, he has every right to run it how he wants. Fans who PAY to see the games have every right to want something else. We also have every right to complain when he lies straight to all our faces about his plans. He says one thing does the other. You can take his member out of your mouth any time now.

          • esk

            If you cant debate..dont resort to chirping. shows your arguments are weak lol ALL im saying is what is the point of all of this? There hasnt been one good explanation ….he cant keep saving up money…if he is broke then he can sell the team and gain back allll of his $$$…..Theres another perfectly reasonable explanation….maybe Melnyk genuinely believes this is the best way to the cup….be cheap..save up…let the players develop..when he feels their ready..he will have $$$ to compete with anyone for a free agent

          • BeJamin

            Also, you realize when he was “spending” the cap was lower. He spent for a couple of years on what he knew was a playoff team. If you’re so retarded you support Alfie leaving to save a buck then there really is no point talking to you. You’re probably just some shill he paid to post on message boards to make him look better.

          • esk

            lmao relax bud. im a huge alfie fan..and i hated that move by ownership. i know 100% that he didnt turn his back on the team. It was management/ownership that tried to lowball him and didnt treat him with respect…he also wanted them to add a few pieces so he can go for another run.

          • Jakester

            We’re two years away anyhow from really needing to open the wallet! Rather he strengthens his position moneywise now if he has too!

          • Sens2026

            We are years and years away from opening the wallet under Melnyk. Open your eyes, Alfie left because of this BS, you think Ryan or even Karlsson will want to stick around for the New York Islanders of Canada?

    • BeJamin

      I love how you think the NHL makes it so easy to move teams. You’re pretty damn clueless man. Look at Phoenix. If the NHL works this hard to keep them in the dessert pretty sure a PROFITABLE team like Ottawa Senators Sports & Entertainment won’t be going anywhere. You are painfully ignorant.

      • Simple Jack

        Im sure u could move a team within your teritory, ny isles are moving, phoenix moved…

        • BeJamin

          They’re moving to a new arena after like what 15+ years of trying to get a new arena where they are? Not to mention, fans of the Islanders could still attend the new arena depending on where geographically they were beforehand. That’s really not the same thing…

      • Jakester

        They make it easy to move Canadian teams! Winterpeg and Quebec! And MLB makes it easy to move Canadian teams too!

    • SensChirp

      Moving the franchise isn’t a real concern here. No way Bettman let’s that happen. So we can easily dismiss that concern.

      And nobody is saying Melnyk has to go. Just that he has to be honest and stop jerking fans around.

    • Jakester

      If this team makes a good trade for Soezza, signs Bobby Ryan and Clarke MacArthur, and then makes another trade for a top 4 D-man all the while staying within his so called budget, what the hell do we have to complain about? I have no problems with that.

      • SensChirp

        This is fair and I still have confidence in Bryan Murray to make the best of the situation. But that doesn’t justify the BS coming from Eugene.

    • Yukon Cornelius

      Sorry esk and Simple Jack but you are misinterpreting peoples’ frustrations.

      I would argue that people are saying ‘fuck you Melnyk’ to keeping a team with a lot of talent but not taking the steps for it to actually compete for the cup. Aiming to win the SCF is in theory what every team should be doing in a perfect world. Obviously this isn’t viable for every team, every year but when you have the core Ottawa has right now winning the cup should be the objective not being ‘competitive on a budget’.

      Realistically this team could have made the playoffs. At the end of the season they were 3 or 4 wins away from getting a wildcard spot. What we see is that with a little bit more spending on a top 4 D, or a top 6 forward this team the difference would have been made. The discontent feelings comes from people feeling like Melnyk is looking at the same results and saying this team as it is could have made the playoffs, no need to increase spending dramatically because we’ll get there next year and the playoffs will pay me handsomely.

      The CTC had an average attendance of 18,108 or 94.5% this year ( http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance ) what this means in terms of real world dollars I cannot comment on (plus the new heritage jerseys surely lined their pockets with some $$$). What I can say is that this is good enough for 14th overall in the league attendance yet we are 26th in league spending. The only team spending around the same amount that made the playoffs is Colorado, but they have 2 of their top scorers on ELCs, and a bunch of young guns on cost-effective bridge contracts. The big thing here is that I believe Colorado’s management will be willing to pay their players what they’ve earned when the time comes, while this may not be the case in ottawa and we’ll risk seeing Ryan, MarArthur, Karlsson go because they won’t be offered what they feel they have earned.

      Basically fans are angry that they feel Melnyk is not reciprocating the dedication they have shown for the team, by not putting the $$$ into place to ice a team that could contend for a Cup.

      • Jakester

        Yes but the teams above us sell their tickets at a higher price per! Would be interesting to sell all the teams real money coming in.

        • esk

          also teams that spend to the cap…sell out almost every game no?? but we want to spend like them loool

          • SensChirp

            Obviously you must understand there’s a correlation between spending and fans that show up to games? You know it. Melnyk knows it. If he stops spending, fans will too.

          • esk

            …so that’s what im saying why would he be doing that? it’s clearly a short-term strategy. He is either saving up or getting ready to sell the team.

          • Jakester

            With the TV money the Sens are a very attractive commodity, he could make a killing! His phone must be ringing!

          • Jakester

            Let’s not forget all the tickets they used To give away. maybe he’s conditioning the fan base to pony up consistantly. Just seems weird though that he’s doing this while getting Murray to resign for two more years promising him that we’ll make a go for it! Time to patient and see what comes of it! Interesting summer coming!

    • Sens2026

      Simple Jack really is simple.

  • Simple Jack

    Besides if you want melynk to spend more than buy some tickets and sell out the house, than he will have no excuse to give.

    • Sens2026

      Ya let’s spend a couple hundred dollars to watch a team that was insanely boring and frustrating to watch in about 50% of their homes games this year, and support the owner who wants this cycle to repeat.

  • Terry Roberts

    Sorry Melnyk might be an bullshiter but seriously why does everyone keep blowing Bryan Murray’s horn he was handed the Keys to Cadillac team in 08 we had been in playoffs every year since 96 in the finals in 07 and since then we have missed playoffs 3 times gone through 4 coaches only gone into second round once is strike year and every other team has gotten better with young talent yet we still have Murray and his complaint is we need the old McLean back the one that babies the players not the one that expect them to actually play we now have a Rent-a-Wreck

    • Yukon Cornelius

      What you are saying is true but the difference is that Muckler drafted horribly and mortgaged the future for zero Stanley Cups. Look through the last couple years of Muckler drafts, and see how many of them have played an NHL game. So yeah while this team was certainly competitive for a long time it meant when Murray stepped in the prospect cupboards were bare and he needed to rebuild.

      While BM is not perfect (Kovalev, Corvo Bishop trade, etc…) he has done a great job of amassing talented prospects and has pulled off some great trades. I still trust Murray to have the hockey IQ to put together a team that can win it all, if he is given a budget that reflects that goal.

      • Jakester

        Exactly back then our only prospect coming up was Nick Foligno! there was nothing, remember Cody Bass???

        • rebel held suburb

          COOOOODDDDY BASS

          SHUDDER

    • whammer44

      This is great point for debate. As you said Murray said we need the old MacLean back…I have strong issue with the fact of why this was not addressed immediately…ie the beginning of the season or whenever it reared itself as a problem. Murray’s the boss and for him to make that comment at the end of lost a lost season doesn’t really sit well with me.

  • Rick

    Your comments are correct. I have been an Ottawa Senator fan
    since Spezza was drafted. I knew him when he played with the Windsor Spitfires.
    In my opinion Mr. Melynk is not the most
    honest or trustworthy NHL owner. He is
    in it for the money no matter what he says publicly. Let’s look at his track
    record with the CHL. He purchased the Toronto St. Mike’s Major hockey club. It
    has to be moved to Mississauga. The fan base is poor. He was always crying
    poverty. He convinces the CHL to give him a Memorial Cup tournament. The
    tournament goes on and then he sells the team. I actually think he was forced to
    sell the team because of his financial problems.

    I can see the same thing happening with the Ottawa Senators.
    Currently he is grasping at straws. He wants a new casino, he has to cut
    payroll. Season ticket sales are not the best. He is a meddling owner. I’m sure
    he speaks to the president and general manager daily. But it is his team. I can
    see him owning the team for about 2 more years and then be forced to take a
    partner or sell it outright.

  • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

    You’re an idiot. for some reason, maybe ignorance, maybe jealousy, you have a hate on for Melnyk and no matter what he does, its not good enough for the all powerful Senschirp. Here’s an idea – shut up and enjoy the games. You are trying way too hard to sound intelligent and acting like you know what you are talking about. If you don’t like Melnyk ‘cheapening’ up – go to the games. Buy the products. And, most importantly, CHEER ON THIS TEAM. If you don’t like it, or you can’t just be a fan and stop trying to take down this organization on some ghost hunt – ‘cheer’ on some other team.

    • esk

      lol calm down bud. Dont ever question chirps loyalty again…he is just frustrated. im trying to get through him haha

    • Doc

      Hello sheep. Must be nice in your fantasy world.

      How about you let the adults talk and have a nap?

      Thanks sweetie. Kisses.

    • Jakester

      Eugene is this you? Lol have another beer man!

    • Floridasensfan

      Melnyk?????

    • SensChirp

      Really making that first post count. Welcome aboard.

      • Jakester

        Lol haha

    • FistsofNeil25

      Thanks for the laugh bud! We can always use some more comic relief around here!

    • whammer44

      This post would imply you are/were satisfied with Melnyk, his “game plan” and talking points at the end of season presser. Unfortunately you don’t make any mention of why or what specifically works for you. It would have been more interesting to hear that than just spewing out insults.

    • not YOUR wingman

      so you’re happy being the New York Islanders North for the next 10 seasons ?

      • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

        for some reason I don’t see Melnyk signing those kind of contracts to Yashin and DiPietro

        • rebel held suburb

          stupidity comes in many forms
          Melnyk / Wang 6 of 1 have a dozen of another

  • Floridasensfan

    looking at the stock house link you posted on twitter, seems like Melnyk is Broke Broke Broke.
    All he has left is the Senators so he has to try and pull cash to survive, hence the budget.
    The TV deal and Canadian Tire deal are just personal cash cows, Senators will never see any any big money from it.
    Melmyk is in survival mode not win the cup mode.

    • Jakester

      If I was Melnyk I would walk away from the table. This team will never be more attractive to a potential buyer than right now! Two big TV deals brining in guaranteed cash!

  • Jason

    I’ve decided not to renew my season tickets for next year. I drive almost 2hrs to watch every game and it’s just not worth it to watch a team play so inconsistently.

    • rebel held suburb

      I hear you .
      I usually go to about 10 games a year (what I can afford)
      I’ll be cutting back to 2 or 3 (maybe 0)
      I have no interest in supporting a team that only wants to exist
      and not compete

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      Welcome to the club… First season since we played at the civic center that I won’t financially be supporting.

      Glad to see a few more people are showing the only realistic way fans have to show their displeasure.

      Melnyk saying season ticket sales are where they expect and want them to be is yet another lie he is telling the fans.

  • mounties99

    Erik Karlsson, sometime next season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cyO271GChk [Some Swearing] #Slapshot

  • Jeff

    Jayme Reid – Are you actually a fan of the Senators? How can you sit back and support an owner who puts an internal budget on a team and then turn around and say they spend their money on player development. Thats an easy scapegoat because we have no idea if they actually do, or what the league average is on player development. What is going to happen when all the money on player development comes to the point of us needing to sign all these players? We will end up developing players for other teams to steal on us unless Melnyk opens his wallet.

    I get the sense that you’re just another fan who enjoys going to a game every now and then and don’t really care how they do. A real fan wants to see this team in the playoffs, and win a stanley cup. And thats not going to happen when you can only spend 56-57 million. No way in hell. I don’t care how good player development is. You can only teach a player so much. you need skill and natural talent too. and that sometimes takes money to bring in.

  • Jeff

    Just kind of makes me mad that people can still support this baffoon we have for an owner. He keeps feeding everyone the same bullshit and some of you keep taking it all in. Until he proves he is actually willing to make some moves to legitimately make this team better, i have no hope we will win a cup while he is running things. Using Hemsky as an example while the oilers paid half his salary just goes to show how much of a moron he is, and what hes making some of you believe.

  • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

    Its simple. I am disappointed in this year, but I also understand we are a small market team. We averaged 96.9% capacity this year, and I’m willing to bet that number was boosted by the Leafs, Habs and Red Wings coming to town. We have a single owner. Melnyk. A face we can actually see and relate to. As opposed to a corporation like Rogers. Does a corporation have its benefits? Absolutely. But if you want to spend to the cap under a corporation, be prepared to have half the seats sold to corporate sponsors and the other half be extremely over priced to the point where ‘real fans’ can’t get in. I for one would rather the family atmosphere and prices I can afford then to turn into our neighbours down either highway.

    • Sens2026

      Suddenly these random accounts come out of nowhere in support of Melnyk, clearly spouting what they were told to write.

      • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

        Opinions are my own. I don’t know who would have told me to write …

        • SensChirp

          Are you a season ticker holder?

          • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

            No I am not. I no longer live in Ottawa. So I guess I don’t get an opinion.

          • SensChirp

            Of course you get an opinion. And you’ve voiced it and I encourage you to continue to do so. Just trying to understand the reasoning behind it. Don’t you think fans have reason to be frustrated?

          • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

            Absolutely. But do you think its really fair to attack Melnyk on every forum? We are a small market team. We just can’t afford to go out there and give every top free agent 7 million dollars just to spend to the cap.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            It’s not about “just to spend to the cap”

          • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

            Then what is it about? All I ever hear (or see) is fans complainging about the budget, and how life would be grand if we were a cap team. No matter what, fans have their opinions on Melnyk already formed: They Don’t Like Him. That’s it. No matter what he does. If this was a cap team and they missed the playoffs – Melnyk is an idiot. If they have a budget and miss the playoffs (once in the last 3 years) – Melnyk is an idiot. Lose-Lose

          • SensChirp

            I think you’ll find that until this post, I have actually been kind of neutral on Melnyk. Post was about the lies and deception not spending blindly. Nobody wants that.

          • Doc

            Only true Sens fans want that it seems.

            Shame on us.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Personally until he started with yet more lies I relatively supported him and thought the budget was to ensure that when our rfas/ufas were due for new contracts we’d have the money and space for their raises…. Now he implies that we won’t be paying them and that we spend lots in development so we will rotate them in.

          • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

            He said on the radio he doesn’t expect major changes – only tinkering. To me, that means maybe Michalek is gone. Maybe a couple new faces. But it’s pretty clear that Murray thinks some young guys like Peumple, Stone, Hoffman etc are ready for a crack at the NHL and thats a POSOTIVE not a negative.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            So we signed Philips to make space for these you guys guys too…. And if that’s all you’ve heard from the interview I’m not shocked by your opinion anymore

          • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

            Never said that’s all I heard – but if you want to pick and choose your comments I can do that as well. Phillips signing was to help the young guns (like Kuba did for Karlsson) and to allow him to retire as a Senator.

          • Doc

            Maybe you should read a little bit more carefully what people are actually saying before spouting off.

            Just a thought.

          • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

            I have been seeing and hearing what people are ‘actually saying’ for a long time now. You see it as spouting off, I see it as having a different opinoin as yours.

          • Doc

            Yes, calling people idiots is definitely having an opinion.

            If you don’t understand why people are rightfully upset, and if you don’t see anything wrong with how Melnyk is running this team, then your username is even more ironic than I initially though.

            Nevermind the fact that the owner basically talks to the fans like they’re idiots.

            Your fantasy land sounds wonderful.

          • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

            Since you’re very high on reading up, I’m surprised you haven’t read my full post or other ones. I am just as fustrated and dissapointed in this year as the next guy, but I keep the money side out of it. I think this team is far better then they performed and they SHOULD have been in the playoffs. But I’m not going to rake Melnyk over the coals for how he spends his money.

          • Doc

            That’s your choice, but don’t dismiss other people’s opinions because you’d rather keep your eyes closed. Not questioning his decisions or motives that directly affect the on-ice product is foolish.

            When the owner treats the fans like they’re idiots, that’s where the line is drawn.

          • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

            So there was no issue last year? Or the year before when he spent pretty much the same amount of money?
            This isn’t about Melnyk, its about the team not making the post-season. Melnyk is just the fans’ whipping boy.

          • Doc

            Of course there was, the hell are you talking about? This is not something new from this year. Wake up.

            You clearly choose what you want to believe.

            He keeps lying to the fan base and is treating the fans like idiots. If your idea of being a “True Sens Fan” is accepting this type of behaviour from the owner then I don’t want to be associated with that type of “fan”.

          • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

            so then what the hell do you want? you think if some other owner comes in here it will fix everything and bring a cup here?

          • Doc

            Good lord, you can’t be this dense.

          • 010101011111101010101010101010

            How can a new owner be any worse ?

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Put the bottle down Eugene before you do something else stupid

          • Aaron 2.0

            Hi TRUE SENS FAN. Welcome to SensChirp. I think you’ll find that Chirp has created a great community here, and that there is room for all opinions.

            Sorry, to just interject half way through a conversation. But, I think this post is actually the crux of why many fans are frustrated (me included). By all accounts, the team will be more profitable next year, due to television contracts! So, it was shocking to me that there wasn’t going to be ANY change in our internal cap. I wasn’t expecting to all of a sudden become a cap team. But, I thought we might of expected a modest increase in the internal cap (maybe 5 million). No such luck! Not a great message to the fans, IMO.

            Now, it’s entirely possible that next season we might not even need a higher internal cap (based on the expected lineup changes and all the young guys waiting for shots). But, it would of been nice to here from ownership that he will make more money next year, and will invest some of it into the on ice product (if the right opportunities arise to make the on-ice product better). Instead, it’s all being pocketed!

            Melnyk has a right to do what he wants. It is his team. But, he shouldn’t expect fans to support a team that does not invest in its future. I think the signs we are getting right now suggest that might be the case. But, in fairness to Melnyk, let’s see what happens over the next coming years. I’ll certainly be paying very close attention to the situation.

          • Cicero

            Keeping the money side out of pro hockey forums is like going to marriage counselling and expecting to keep sex out of the conversation.

          • Conor_smythe

            nobody wants to spend to the cap.. but nobody wants to be a bottom feeder either

            Cap space is only a commodity if you use it to your advantage.

            this team COULD have signed alfie AND got ryan, and still had cap space.. but eugene didnt have the money..

            that scenario would not have made us a cap team, and it WOULD have made us a better team

            Right now decisions are being made based on the money we don’t have, not the cap space that we do have

          • BeJamin

            The point is intelligent spending = spending to near cap on the CORRECT talent. As in, not blowing your brains out in free agency to sign say… David Clarkson, but biding your time and getting guys like MacArthur (great underlying analytics, decent price). And making sure to pay to retain your quality talent where you have it i.e. Zibanejad, Karlsson, Turris, MacArthur etc. The big miss there was Alfie. I will never receive a good enough explanation for that one. And that’s why I hate Melnyk. He can spout as many lies as he wants to the fan base about “I’m going for a Stanley Cup in the next 2 years” … his actions speak differently. Fans in Ottawa are tired of this dog and pony show. I wouldn’t mind if he was honest, and I get that to some degree his job is to spin things and sell hope. The problem is, he’s not just spinning the truth, he’s outright lying to the fan base. That I won’t tolerate. I won’t support it. No.

          • Doc

            Well said.

          • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

            I love Alfie, but given the same situation, I don’t think I would have given him 6 mil for a 41 year old either. I keep hearing the same thing, he wanted to get paid for the 1 mil year. Here’s what’s left out: he came off a 4 year contract where he made 19.5 mil. hHe made 4.5/7/7/1. Do you REALLY think he signed that for the 1 mil year? Of COURSE not! He saw he could make 18.5 mil in 3 years. He was already compensated for the 1 mil year buy he 14 mil he made in 2 years before that. Although it sucked to lose Alfie, I fully understood why.

          • BeJamin

            Name one person asking the team to do that? I don’t see one. My reference was Alfie, which you apparently agree with. My other was a guy like Andrew Ference at 3.5M if they didn’t want to bring back Gonchar. Money was there to have a great team this year if we wanted one.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        Think it’s kinda funny that an account with 4 posts is talking about random accounts popping up

  • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

    Has yost come up with his lies list yet?? Not normally into his posts, but can’t wait to see these knowing how thoroughly he does his stuff

    • Shibal

      I actually really like his stuff. His prediction on the play of players are pretty spot on. I remember when the Hemsky deal went down, he immediately said that Hemsky will make the Spezza line a lot better based on his puck possession play in Edmonton. His stats supported the sound defensive play of Gryba and horrendous play of Cowen this season as well.

      • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

        I tend to agree with what he says… Just he puts me to sleep with his writing

      • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

        I don’t think you needed those ‘advanced’ stats to look at this team needing a winger for Spezza, and then adding a skilled winger, and saying ‘yupp should be better’.

        • BeJamin

          Except that advanced stats are the difference between adding a loser like Clarkson or Stewart vs. adding a guy who actually drives possession and plays well in all 3 zones like Hemsky.

          • Doc

            Bingo.

          • http://batman-news.com TRUE SENS FAN

            Like I said, you don’t need the advanced stats to know adding a skilled winger for a skilled centre is a good thing. I’ve been on the ‘Get Hemsky’ Bandwagon for 2 years now. and could care less about advanced stats. I think they;re a little too hyped, but I do see some validity in them.

          • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

            Way to pick a side…

          • BeJamin

            A lot of people refer to Chris Stewart, as a “skilled winger” is my point. Stats are not the whole story, but they can tell you a lot about how a player overall impacts the game.

          • Simple Jack

            He has better stats than evander kane.

          • Doc

            You’re spinning things again. Also, don’t disregard something so easily because you didn’t take the time to understand them.

      • Doc

        He was advocating we trade for Hemsky for over a year now.

        I really like his stuff too, brings another perspective (advance stats) that was lacking in the Sens blogosphere.

        • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

          Maybe I’ll give him another shot.

          • Doc

            It’s not everyone’s cup of tea, that’s for sure.

            I love advance stats, so his blog is right up my alley.

    • rebel held suburb

      His early season comments about the Leafs initial success being
      “smoke and mirrors” were pretty accurate

  • Spoons

    I with you all in a way that I’m fed up with Melnyk’s BS. But this is just typical on a losing season; we need a whipping boy! Who are we to tell him how to spend his money? My neighbor cheapens out lawn care every year and makes our street look like shit. Who am I to tell him to spend on lawn care? I know we’re passionate about our team, but this $$$ thing is just too distracting. It shouldn’t be a fan’s worry.

  • Zelle

    Reading below… I’d have to give a piece of advice: If you want your (?) opinion to be heard or taken seriously, don’t start your post with “You’re an idiot.”

  • Nathan Kimmett
    • 010101011111101010101010101010

      I’ll sign

  • Zelle

    Three ways to know for certain that Melnyk no longer wants the cup: Ryan doesn’t get signed, Karlsson gets traded, or Turris doesn’t get resigned for the money he deserves at the end of his contract.

    • esk

      lol its in his financial interest to get the cup!!!!! what your saying doesnt make any sense

      • 010101011111101010101010101010

        what he says makes PERFECT sense

        Melnyk will do all 3 before he sells the team

        • esk

          Yes, the only way these theories make any sense is if he is planning on selling the team….but he wouldnt get rid of ryan, karlsson and turris before he does that….in business, we call them assets…getting rid of them will bring down the value of the team

          • runningbear1974

            i believe someone is suggesting that Karlsson, Ryan, and Turris are our untouchables… They’re the core…

      • Zelle

        I’m saying one of. Basically indicating that he is more concerned with saving money on contracts than making a successful bid to win the Cup. He can still make money off this team, and probably does, with just being a playoff team, not a Cup team.

  • hq8

    i think the real realization here is that melnyk is:
    1. a really emotional guy
    2. does not have a clear vision for this team, none for getting to be elite, winning the cup and then sustaining the performance.
    3. does not know what he really wants out of this team other than spewing high level hyperbole to keep fans buying tickets i.e. win the cup.
    4. has little hockey sense and also sees BM as a means of saving him dollars or making him dollars instead of a means of getting this team to win.
    5. treating Muckler era misdirected spending as the same as whats needed now i.e. spending required to sustain and complement the core vs. spending to mask organizational failures – which is what the leafs (the idiots in his own examples) do. whats going to hurt Melnyk soon is that the leafs will eventually learn the lesson and then he wont have the luxury of spewing stupidity like that.

    its funny – when karlsson got cut, most of the fanbase felt energized by Melnyk’s vocal rage at Cooke and the penguins – people called him the best owner at the end of last season’s playoffs infact. however, now all of us would just like him to atleast shut up or flat out disappear. coming full circle in 12 mths.

    in the end i think Melnyk is just the wrong kind of personality to be running a hockey team. he stands out too much amongst all the other owners in the NHL – especially owners of successful teams.

    However, the failure this year is not failure to win the cup, its failure to make the playoffs. and for that I find it hard to blame Melnyk.
    for me BM and then PMac made too many critical errors to lay full blame on Melnyk.
    Losing alfie hurt in the leadership dept. but on the other hand, production from the front end was decent (league top 10).

    The decision to let Bishop go for Conacher, shows that BM is really unable make bold leadership choices. The more you watch the playoffs this year, the more it becomes clear that some teams really made it on the backs of their goalies (TB especially) – which stings even more because the failure this yr was in large part due to stubbornness by the sens brass to keep playing Andy when he clearly had his down yr. And go figure, TB signed Bishop to 2.3 mil per yr, while Ottawa paid Anderson 3.5 mil this yr and the same next. so, keeping bishop would have actually also kept EM happy too and would have solved goaltending for the sens for another 4 ish yrs atleast. Now you have an old and degraded asset in Andy. its anyone’s guess how good of a return Andy would have got at last yrs draft after his amazing season. No matter which way you cut the Bishop for Conacher deal, it hurt Ottawa and will hurt Ottawa for a long long time. and thats on BM, not on EM.

    The decision to insist on playing SDC and Pageau over Zib at the start of the season was equally idiotic. didnt even save the sens money.

    Similarly, stubbornness to stick with Cowen when he clearly struggled. Doling out the contracts to Cowen and Greening – thats not Melnyk, thats bad talent evaluation by BM.

    Insisting on playing Greening, Spezza and Condra with Spezza when they had Zibanejad available, Stone available. again, BM + PMac.

    Playing Chris Phillips and Chris Neil on the PP, while you have better options available in the lineup.

    so to me, Melnyk is frustrating for sure, but I wouldn’t blame Melnyk for the shit season we had, because if we do that, then we might as well start giving him credit for the good ones we have had. Melnyk is preventing this team from getting over the top, but I dont think he is preventing it from being a fun team to watch.

    to me as a fan, yea sure i’d like the sens to win the cup every yr, but its more important to me that everyone below Melnyk their damned best to make every season fun to watch – unfortunately, for 2013/14 way too many people made unforced errors which eventually cost the season.

    i mean look at it, we got 82 games of Karlsson, with a points total last seen more than 15 yrs ago AND we still missed the playoffs. thats not Melnyk, thats BM and PMac causing it.

  • Sandy

    Off topic…. I don’t know how many of you were watching the start of the Chicago/St Louis game.. but just before the anthems… on a full screen… nation wide.. CBC put..
    St Louis Blues vs Chicago Unsportsmanlike..
    No word of a lie. I did a double take thinking my old eyes were deceiving me. Is this someone’s joke. How unprofessional….

    • Zelle

      Hopefully just a programming error >.>

    • hq8

      maybe they moved Glenn Healy to their programming section

    • Deadly

      If I owned the Hawks I would definitely have a forensic team looking at this. I wonder if Hawk fans might be able to start a class action suit against someone.

      • Zelle

        LOL

  • Zelle

    Blues are playing some damn good hockey this game. I hope they go all the way.

    • Sandy

      The thought of Maxim Lapierre winning a Cup.. — yikes..

      • Zelle

        Hahaha well I like him for the most part, I know I’m in the minority. He’s calmed down with his stupid shit a lot since being with the Blues.

        Edit:
        Plus Miller would get a cup!

    • Daybreak Maidenhead

      Yeah – the Leafs long ternm losers club will have one less member

      • Zelle

        We’re in that club :(

        • Daybreak Maidenhead

          LONG term – membership requires 40 seasons played without a Cup

          • Zelle

            Oooh ok. Let’s hope it doesn’t reach that point lol

  • FistsofNeil25

    Okay, that intermission with Nazem Kadri was one of the more disgusting things that CBC Hockey Night in Canada has ever done, and that’s really saying something because that panel has said and done a lot of stupid shit.

    I actually feel nauseous. Glen Healy pumping Kadri’s tires about being a skilled player who loves to engage physically. Hey Glen, explain to us where that little bitch was during the Leafs epic collapse?

    Also, Ron Maclean referred to Toronto’s first round loss to the Bruins last year as a “great run”. Ya okay, a first round exit that was decided by the greatest playoff game collapse in NHL history. Great run there Ron! I’m just shaking my head.

    CBC, you are truly pathetic.

    • Zelle

      Your post just made me incredibly thankful I am watching the Blues feed instead of CBC.

      • FistsofNeil25

        Yeah I just turned it away from CBC to NBC. At least NBC doesn’t find a way to turn their broadcasts into a Toronto love fest.

        • Zelle

          When I watched the Habs-Bolts game I opened the CBC live feed and even the mods were talking about the Leafs. I honestly don’t get it. It’s really frustrating to be constantly reminded that the Leafs seem to be the center of the universe where the national media is concerned, even though Sens and Habs consistently outperform them.

    • Sandy

      That’s why I refuse to watch any intermission on CBC.. Watching paint dry is more fun.
      I tolerate the games as best as I can.. tuning into NBC if they are airing the game at the same time.. Other than that.. I’m stuck watching them…

    • Deadly

      I was brutal. A love fest really.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Where can we find ourselves a defenseman like Seabrook?

    • Zelle

      You could almost say that about any player on the Hawks xD “Yes I’d like a Kane, Keith, Seabrook, and um, one, no two Toews please.”

      • FistsofNeil25

        Haha well ya obviously. The thing is that Keith has Seabrook, Pietrangelo has Bouwmeester, McDonagh has Girardi etc. We need to find a legit top pairing partner for Karl.

        • Zelle

          So very, very true. Wish they would have used this disappointing season to find a partner for Karlsson instead of pairing him with Cowen all season long.

          • Sandy

            How can they do that when the Owner will not commit to spend to do that.. and the GM made no reference to upgrading the defense.
            What you see is what you get next year… repeat of the same.,

          • Zelle

            I know… top ten in scoring but worrying about bringing scoring wingers.

          • Jakester

            Stop, I believe that the sens will go out and get another very capable left handed D.

          • Sandy

            I’ll stop when they prove to me they are willing to upgrade that defense..

          • FistsofNeil25

            Seriously. Cowen probably wouldn’t even make Chicago or St Louis’ top 6 defensive group. I like Methot, but what would he be on these teams? a #4? maybe even a #5?

            I would be happy if Methot was our 3 or 4 guy, but he’s playing way above his head next to Karl as our #2 guy. As for Cowen, it remains to be seen if he has what it takes to be a competent NHLer.

          • Zelle

            Yeah it was very frustrating to see that this year. Although I hope we keep Methot I think he’s great.

          • FistsofNeil25

            I hope we keep him too. In an ideal world Ceci would step up and be a top 4 guy next year alongside Methot on the second pairing, and we would find a top pairing stud to pair with Karl.

            The bottom pairing could be any mix of Phillips/Cowen/Gryba/Wiercioch.

          • whammer44

            Its going to take $5 million a season over 5 or 6 year to keep Methot based on what MacDonald just signed with Philly. How likely does that seem right now?

          • Zelle

            I will be very upset if they lose Methot due to money issues. He’s been solid, and when he wasn’t he was benched. Got pissed. Stayed anyway, and came back better than ever with a great attitude. Would be a waste of a season on him if they let him go now.

          • FistsofNeil25

            Leave it to Philly to inflate player salaries eh… If that’s what it takes to re-sign Methot then I may take back what I said about keeping him lol

          • whammer44

            Well the leafs have to take the brunt of responsibility about raising salaries with what they have doled out to Clarkson and Phenough…going to be a tough call on Methot.

      • Sandy

        12 of Toews

        • peetypuck

          Sorry, limit of 1 per customer.

  • Zelle

    And Hawks score three unanswered goals. Blues need to wake up.

  • Jakester

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z955zcaDu6g

    Sens draft pick Robbie Baillargeon might explain that hockey jersey!

  • Zelle

    If Gryba got suspended for his hit on Eller then Seabrook could be looking at some time out of a game.

    • Sandy

      That wasn’t even blindside.. and he was leaning…. But the guy plays for Chicago not the Sens.. so probably nothing…

      That penalty could put the Blues ahead 2-0 and put the Hawks in jeopardy…

      • Zelle

        Got one analyst saying it’ll be a suspension.

  • Sandy

    Really dumb play by Seabrooke… a 5 min PP for the Blues.

  • FistsofNeil25

    I can’t believe the stick work that Keith gets away with. I love him as a player, but man is he ever dirty.

    • Zelle

      Yes he gets away with too much imo.

  • Zelle

    OMG clutch!!

  • FistsofNeil25

    Hahaha did you guys hear that by Dean “Still more work here to do for the Blues and the Senators…”

  • BeJamin

    That’s the old if he gets up and is fine it’s not a penalty, but because he was hurt it’s a fiver. Nothing the ref can really do there but call it. Seabrooke could have let up, he didn’t. Hard to watch Backes wobbling around like that even if I’m cheering for the hawks to win.

    • Zelle

      Agree although I’m cheering for the Blues. Late hit, shoulder to the head, no let up like you said. Should be a suspension.

      • FistsofNeil25

        I’m cheering for the Hawks (second fave team) but I didn’t like that hit either. That’s the type of hit they’ve been trying to get out of the game. Under the old rules it wouldn’t have even been a penalty, but in today’s game that’s 5 and a game for sure. He’ll maybe even get a one game suspension.

        • Zelle

          Especially from Seabrook after the hit he took from Torres. I don’t have anything against the Hawks I just like cheering on teams that haven’t had a lot of success in the playoffs. Hopefully Backes is ok.

  • Zelle

    Wow that was a bad sell by Sobotka… You can see him get hit, then sees he referee, then head snap.

  • aegiszx

    Both games were close, and the Blues snatched both wins away from the Hawks… could have come home up 2-0… but instead they now have to find a way to hold the fort.

    As much as I prefer to be at CTC this spring (last year vs the Habs was the best and more electric building I’ve ever been in)… The UC is going to be absolutely nuts on Monday…

    • Moudy Mahfouz

      I agree. Not sure if any of you were at game 4 of the Habs Sens series. I think the most electrifying sens game ive been too ever. I have been attending games since the age of 5 and the energy in the building was nuts. It was worth every penny up to 200$ for the ticket and I hope we get back to the playoffs next year. On the other hand, what a playoffs so far…

    • Zelle

      Two really good games. This could turn into a home and home series easily. I really miss watching the Sens in the playoffs though.

  • luckan20

    I hope Melnyk is watching play-off games,,,,oh no! he is not an idiot. All the 16 team owners/GMs are idiots spending close to cap.

  • Sandy

    THAT was holding? sure it was..

    • Zelle

      Unfortunate thing about giving the Pens weak power plays is that they usually score on them too.

  • Zelle

    Watching the CBL-PIT game is worth it just to see Dubinski go to town on Crosby.

  • FistsofNeil25

    Niskanen is going to be made a very rich man this summer. UFA and he’s had an awesome season.

    • Sandy

      Can Pitts afford to sign him?

      • FistsofNeil25

        15 mill in cap space with 7 forwards and 5 dmen under contract. Notable players that need to be re-signed are Niskanen, Orpik, and Sutter

        • Sandy

          I guess this is one of those situations when you shouldn’t be at the cap..
          At least the Sens will never know that feeling.
          They have some difficult decisions to make. Sutter has been really good… so has Niskanen.
          Is there a chance that they clear cap room by dealing Malkin?
          Next season he is 9.5 on the cap…

  • Zelle

    Cherry saying Crosby is getting abused out there. I wonder if he’d say the same if the Bruins were the ones shutting down Crosby.

    • Sandy

      No they are supposed to let Crosby just skate around untouched. Has he watched what’s going on the St Louis/Chicago game.
      It’s the playoffs Mr. Cherry. It’s physical play…

  • Sandy

    Dzingel with a goal and an assist tonight… B-Sens up 3-0 on Norfolk…

    • peetypuck

      Peumpel scores his 30th.

  • aegiszx

    If you were wondering why we’re not in the playoffs and Columbus is, just watch this game… For a team in their second year of rebuilding, they are definitely taking it to the Pens. This Jackets team is impressive…

    • Sandy

      Too many penalties….. that hurts them. A couple very questionable..

      • aegiszx

        Most teams would have folded after giving the Pens 10+ PP opportunities… yet some how these guys come back with even more momentum… the Pens are just barely holding on…

    • Zelle

      Yeah it about sums it up: special teams, defense, work ethic.

  • Shibal

    I think Puempel has become the first sen’s prospect to score 30 goals in the AHL, in his rookie year.

  • Sandy

    That reffing tonight in Pitts-Col is a joke. Another gem game by Dan O’Rourke..

    • Zelle

      I hope our special teams coaching is watching the Jackets right now. Their PK is beautiful.

  • Bandwagon

    Does anyone think a team with this lineup would have made the playoffs?

    N.Foligno – Fisher – Hossa
    Cullen – Vermette – Alfredsson
    Havlat – Kelly – Silfverberg
    Heatley – Laich – Klinkhammer
    (J.Winchester, Regin, McGrattan, Eaves, Konopka, Butler)

    Chara – Meszaros
    Gonchar – Benoit
    Volchenkov – Salo
    (Carkner, Rundblad)

    Bishop
    Elliott
    (McElhinney, Emery)

    Just curious!

  • FistsofNeil25

    Man has Ryan Johansen had a huge break out season or what! Sick hockey player!

    • Shibal

      The only Columbus high draft pick besides Nash to turn out well for the blue jackets.

    • BeJamin

      I literally just came here to post that. He’s a monster out there and he has been all year. He’s like a blend of the best things about Joe Thornton and Toews or maybe Nash. That ability to protect the puck and work his way around guys to create something out of nothing combined with the finish and foot speed to make him impossible to contain. Monster.

  • Sandy

    Tim Peel, Dan O’Rourke, Marc Joanette… How the hell are these 3 some of the best in the NHL.. to get to ref the playoffs…. Goofs…
    Heatley is again scratched for Minny. I guess he’s not going back there next season..

  • Sandy

    4-2 Final for the B-Sens.
    First star.. Dzingel…

  • Zelle

    I picked PIT for my bracket challenge but it would be really exciting to see the Jackets go to the second round.

  • Sandy

    Boy it pays to tank in the right year and get a gem like McKinnon.. A good young team.. the Avs.. But they have had a lot of high picks… Makes a difference.

    What a goal by the young lad..

  • Sandy

    I have Chicago getting through.. not feeling very confident on that after seeing the penalty trouble they have been in the last 2 games..

    • Zelle

      I picked Blues cause both CHI and STL were kind of slowing down in the regular season coming into the playoffs, and I hoped Miller would wake up in time to steal some games. Still down 2-0 both OT games at home for the Blues; I’m thinking this will go to 7 games and be a home and home with the last one being a coin flip.

  • Zelle

    lol Fleury *facepalm*

  • Gordon Ramsli

    Well if Eugene wants to be a cheapwad again next season I hope Murray at least gets rid of our dead weight contracts, Greening, Kassian, and Condra if someone is to replace him as our Defense guy

    If i had to sit down and say which forward i build my organization around moving towards next season and it comes down to Spezza or Ryan Id take Ryan…

    Line em up like this

    MacArthur – Turris – Stone
    Stewart – Zibanejad – Ryan
    Peumpel – Lazar – Hemsky/Hoffman
    Grant/Condra – Smith – Neil

    Meyers – Karlsson
    Methot – Ceci
    Phillips – Gryba/Boro

    Trade Spezza, Cowen and Greening off to Buffalo for Meyers & Stewart *Additional Picks

    Unless we give PW46 a full time spot trade him off for future pick/prospect

    Basically whatever we don’t plan on using we need to get rid of to refill our draft pick cabinet

    • Nikesh Bost

      How about Spezza for Berglund and 2nd; then Wiercioch, Greening, Prince for Ehrnhoff and Stewart.

      MacArthur / Turris / Ryan

      Berglund / Zbad / Stone

      Hoffman / Lazar / Stewart

      Smith / Pageau / Neil

      - Condra as extra

      Methot / Karlsson

      Cowen / Ehrnhoff

      Phillips / Ceci

      - Boro as extra

  • Zelle

    Anyone else find Orpik has been kind of invisible? He was all over the Sens last year.

    • Jakester

      Hate that guy, hate the pens beyond belief. Refs trying to give it to them all night.

  • FistsofNeil25

    It’s scary how good Nathan MacKinnon is at his age. He’s going to give Crosby, Stamkos, Malkin and company some more competition… probably as soon as next season. It’s just a matter of time before Colorado starts racking up a couple cup wins with a young core of MacKinnon, Duchene, Landeskog, O’Reilly, Johnson, Barrie, Varlamov. I’m a jealous fan over here.

    • Zelle

      I am jealous of 6/8 Western teams in the playoffs right now…

      • FistsofNeil25

        haha who are the 2/8?

        • Zelle

          Wild and Stars xD I don’t think Sens are that far from those teams. Although honestly I’m jealous of all the fans that get to watch their teams play in the post season.

          • FistsofNeil25

            Stars have the young top-end guys like Seguin, Benn and Nichushkin though. I would kill to be able to build my team around those three.

          • Zelle

            True but we have a decent young core too with Ryan (now), Zbad, Turris, and Karlsson. A couple of seasons, retain those four and add Lazar and Stone.

          • FistsofNeil25

            Puempel!

          • Zelle

            True him too, lots of good young guys too look forward to IMO. The only concern is retaining the guys the team has now that will drive the progression and keep it intact. I mean the Avs lineup is ridiculous lol but I feel like the Senators will be able to compete with a decent number of teams in the playoffs with the right work ethic and coaching.

          • Jakester

            Nice to hear I agree!

  • FistsofNeil25

    I’ve gained so much respect for Columbus. So much heart and so hard to play against. Wow. I would love to see them bury Shittsburgh.

    • Daybreak Maidenhead

      they got rid of Nash – then learned how to be a TEAM

      • Zelle

        That deal looks awesome looking at Dubinsky taking care of business out there. Would be interesting to have a Jackets v Rangers match up in round two.

        • FistsofNeil25

          If we trade Spezza and have to lean on Turris and Zibanejad to carry the first two lines, I really believe that our biggest priority (other than a top pairing d) is a big third line center that we can depend on to shut-down the oppositions best players, similar to what we’re seeing Dubinsky do to Sid.

          I know a lot of people will say we have Zack Smith for that role but let’s be honest, he’s not cut out for the kind of role. He’s a pretty average third line center.

          • Zelle

            I like Smith but he’s not a big shut down guy. He’s a faceoff winning, hitting, average goal-scoring opportunity kind of guy. Great for a fourth liner if you want a potential scoring line that hits and back checks hard.

            What Dubinsky is doing with Sid, the closest we have to that is probably Methot. It’s absolutely needed though I think. Even if they keep Spezza it wouldn’t be a horrible idea. Put Smith of the wing he’s proven he can play there.

          • FistsofNeil25

            Yeah I’ve been thinking for a while now that moving Smith to the LW might be a good move. I think he’s too good of a player to be buried on the wing, but he doesn’t really fit the mold of what I think an ideal 3rd line center is. I’d also like to see a roster spot opened up for Pageau to slot in as the 4th line center.

            If Smith was moved to the wing on the third line, it would allow him to be more physical and get under the skin of the opposition. He would also be able to contribute more to the secondary scoring of the team, as he does have a decent scoring touch for a bottom six player. I know he’s one of our better face off guys, but he would still be able to take draws depending on match-ups and game situation.

          • Zelle

            Agree completely. It’s a waste of a good faceoff man but at the same time you could have flexibility to take draws too. It worked well with him and Zbad so why not.

          • Jakester

            Grant can do that if we finally let this talented kid to play. Big guy can skate, offensive upside.

      • Jakester

        Yes, exactly what needed to happen! Sounds eerily similar.

        • Zelle

          Very subtle hint Jacques lol

          • Jakester

            Well, that’s what he was hinting at, no?

          • Zelle

            Oh come on don’t play, you’re totally Jacques! Your typing mannerisms are the same and you have the same opinions!

          • Jakester

            Of course, I was always Jakester before Jacques.

          • Zelle

            Ooh see I didn’t know that! You miss a lot of things when you’re new to a forum :o

          • Jakester

            Haha, I’m a huge Sens fan just want to see the Pesky Sens back. A good Spezza deal like a good Nash deal could bring that for our team! Wish Spezz lots of luck elsewhere with no hard feelings!

          • Daybreak Maidenhead

            No hints at all – I’ve just never been a Nash fan

          • Jakester

            A floater? Lol

    • Andrews theory

      That’s what I loved about Foligno, I’d still make the trade though

  • Zelle

    Very well deserved win for the Jackets. Third rebound and it’s in, Pittsburgh defense nowhere to be seen. Great win.

    • FistsofNeil25

      Geno and Sid nowhere to be seen either!

      • Zelle

        Yeah as many goals as Crosby scores he’s not really clutch. Crosby was probably too tired from being handled by Dubinsky all night hahaha

        • Jakester

          Crosby probably enjoys Dubinsky handling him!

  • Sandy

    What a fun team to watch.. the Avs….

    • Zelle

      Landed-skoged a goal!

    • FistsofNeil25

      I would have kept Brian Elliott if it meant we could have drafted Landeskog..

      • Jakester

        Not sure on that one yet, Zibby might still end up being the better player!

        • Jakester

          Esp if we play him more than 10-12 minutes a night.

          • Andrews theory

            They say Lazar is a coaches player which Maclean will love.

            Dare I say he might get more minutes than Geening lol

          • Jakester

            I sure hope so or he’ll be back in Nova Scotia cleaning the deck Of the Blue Nose for a living.

        • FistsofNeil25

          Don’t get me wrong, Zbad is right up there with Turris and Karlsson as my favorite Sens, but Landeskog is the type of player this organization has always needed. I hope Lazar turns out to be a similar player.

          • Shibal

            Landeskog is playing great this season. However, you also got to think that playing with Mackinnon and Stastny helped him a lot this season.

            Zibanejad has not had that kind kind of luxury the last 2 seasons.

          • Zelle

            But Zbad got to play with Neil and Greening ;)

          • Jakester

            Haha

          • Jakester

            Did you like the little Lazar video I put up? Especially when he drops the gloves.

  • Andrews theory

    Ha ha..

    I was away from the computer the day this blog posted and just read some of the Jayme Reid posts…

    As a refresh, Jayme was aggressively towing the Eugene line with pre-fabricated rebuttals.

    I sure hope whoever Eugene hired to “play” Jayme didn’t get paid out of the “player development fund”.

  • aegiszx

    Something about leaving this team brings out the best in players huh lol.

    Silfverberg, Benoit, Gonchar, Elliot, Bishop, Alfie are all in the post-season… Well, minus Bishop since he’s injured… but they’ve all had pretty decent seasons…

    • Shibal

      Silfverberg has been pretty terrible this season along with Gonchar. Everyone else I agree with.

    • Zelle

      They also all joined better overall teams. Apart from Bishop I don’t think any of them really made a huge difference in their respective team’s standing. I mean Elliot still isn’t that great, he has some good games but he also has horrendous ones and the Blues are supposed to have one of the best defense in the NHL. SIlf was injured for a while and plays behind Perry and Getzlaf. Forwards are really what make Dallas imo. Detroit is kind of self explanatory. And the Avs this season are just an anomaly lol

      Edit: Also I thought Benoit played well for the Sens so it’s not that unexpected.

    • Andrews theory

      Kelly ;-)

  • Captain Karl

    Sorry Chirp but while your article is very good it is extremely one sided. I felt the need to point out a few things on the other side of the coin. Melnyk has been up front with us that he is not going to increase spending next year. As I mentioned previously he will have no option but to increase spending by about 10 million the following year to retain the players we have developed. It would serve no purpose for him to declare he will spend to the cap after next year because those players would want a larger piece of that pie.

    Melnyk didn’t get rich by being a stupid man and all indications are that he does have a plan but he is keeping his cards close to his vest. Yes he is a little eccentric but that doesn’t make him a bad guy. He totally blew the Alfie thing and I think he knows it. Some Melnyk notables include:

    saved the team from almost certain relocation
    Honorary Director of Help Us Help the Children (HUHC), a humanitarian organization that benefits from his annual donation of medical supplies and clothing.
    Donated $1 million to the Belmont Child Care Association for the construction of a child care center at Belmont Park
    Donated $1 million to launch the foundation “Patrons of Sport” with Canadian Athletes Now Fund (CAN Fund).
    Donated $5 million to St. Joseph’s Health Centre in Toronto to help improve patient access to one of Toronto’s oldest hospitals
    Eugene made a special surprise visit to Kandahar, Afghanistan to deliver a special donation of hockey equipment to Canadian and United States troops
    The Ottawa Senators Foundation is the second largest charity in Ottawa/Gatineau region. His involvement with this Foundation has led him to become a Founding Partner of an ambitious and innovative $4.5 million pediatric palliative care facility in Ottawa called Roger’s House which he helped to officially open in April 2006 and is only the second facility of its kind in North America
    Hosts the “Eugene Melnyk Skate for Kids” event at Canadian Tire Centre every year where he donates Senators jerseys, helmets and brand new skates to hundreds of underprivileged children living in Ottawa
    Certainly sounds like a bad guy to me.
    I read a lot of comments on various boards and so many fans bitching and complaining and saying they will no longer support the team. Ottawa sports fans in general are like spoiled brats. They didn’t support the team this year either when the team came out of the gate slow. Now they are saying they won’t support the team if Spezza is traded. And yet we have probably the most entertaining player in the whole league on our team and a promising young core. Wow, Ottawa sports fans suck
    Ottawa Rough Riders R.I.P.

    • SensChirp

      At no point did I say was Melnyk was bad guy. He has done a lot for this city and there really is no disputing that.
      Read the article again and I think you’ll see that your comment really has nothing to do with what the post is about.

      • Captain Karl

        I did like your article and found it very relevant. I just wanted to point out the other side and most of my comments were directed at some of the responses you got and not you personally. The crap like petitions and fuckyoumelnyk hashtags and so forth. Sorry, I didn’t mean to point the finger at you. I think you do a great job. Between yourself and Yost I can ussually find out whats going on so Thank you for that

    • Andrews theory

      It’s an impressive list to be sure. While his donations are clearly a welcomed revenue stream for these wonderful causes it doesn’t make all of his other ridiculous comments and decisions irrelevant.

      Curious what part of his master plan involves calling his NHL business partners idiots or conducting a forensic investigation on a play that wasn’t even penalized.

      Please…

      There have been a few significant things posted on the site that have come directly from highly credible sources. While much of the chatter on here if regurgitated info or rumors, Ottawa is a small town where everyone knows everyone within a few degrees of separation (that includes people that are in the org and close to the org).

      • SensChirp

        And I hope that people appreciate that for me to post something like this, I would have to be damn sure and that it’s not just an “aw shucks I’m frustrated” moment. After 5 years of running this site, I know a post like this is putting myself and the SensChirp name on the line and that’s not something I take lightly.

        I talk to or am connected with team employees (former and current), front office, media, fans and know 100% that my frustration is shared by some important people in and around the organization. And to be honest, what is included in the post above only scratches the surface. It was time to write this.

    • 010101111101010101010101010101

      “all indications are that he does have a plan” — YEESH !

      Alfredsson treated like garbage – Spezza about to be tossed aside – Gonchar not replaced

      Having a team that exists but doesn’t compete

      NOT a plan and thus not a team that I’m interested in supporting

      • Captain Karl

        Not going to argue about the whole Alfie thing. Spezza is a whole other story. (many of us don’t feel he is an integral piece for the future) If the team spends the extra 10 million it will require to extend all the UFA’s and gets up to the 66-67 million payroll will you still complain. Go ahead and not support the team. Just don’t whine when it moves to another city.

        • Zelle

          I might be in the minority here but I’m still planning on attending games. Not to support Melnyk but because I want to support the players and feel they deserve fans who cheer them on. /shrug

          • Andrews theory

            Absolutely, players and owners come and go. I cheer for the logo and don’t intend to stop supporting the team. Similar to the strike, anyone that cares enough to go on this blog regularly will likely continue to support the team.

            That doesn’t mean we won’t continue to speak out or show displeasure over Melnyks shenanigans

          • SensChirp

            Same

    • Tcharger – Ryan-For-51

      I find it kind of funny that fans are getting flacked for not financially supporting the team after many questionable decisions at just about every level… After having an owner (who really should just take a step back from trying to be a face of the organization) contradict what he says everytime he speaks… But then people make comments about how leaf fans are idiots for always selling out their games.

      (general comment not directed at you…. I think that this is actually a very good post to remind everyone the Eugene isn’t necessarily all evil, as I do feel some people have kinda painted the picture that he can do no good)

      • Captain Karl

        Leafs fans are idiots but we have a different situation here with a single owner. If we were owned by Bell and Rogers I would be putting up the barricade myself. Nothing good will come of fans not supporting our team no matter the circumstances

  • SensChirp

    Let us try a different topic for a bit. Although I sense we may talk about this again a few times this off season (unfortunately)

    http://senschirp.ca/news/important-free-agency-decisions-ahead/

  • Michenator

    Chirp I love your writing. GO SENS GO and let’s hope that this situation with EM won’t last!

  • http://www.Merchaholic.ca Merchaholic

    Get the pitchforks and torches!!!! #OutWithMelnyk